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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 1: Five dollars? This is a regular level. How but they

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Speaker 1: tackled hit one. You're saying that humans need fantasy to

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Speaker 3: I suppose the best, relentless, refusing to give up.

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Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, baby less.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome to the Action Network's Fantasy Flex podcast, presented

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Speaker 2: by Prize Picks.

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Speaker 1: This is our week five waiver episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Chris Raybon, joined by my guy Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what's going on? How was your week? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, what a letdown that Tom Brady prop

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Speaker 3: man at the finished with two sixty nine not so nice?

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Speaker 1: So two hundred and how much sixty nine night? I think?

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Speaker 1: Or two seven? Either way?

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Speaker 3: It was under And you know, if Nick Folk made

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Speaker 3: that field goal, that would have been fun just as

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Speaker 3: a football fan to see Tom Brady have to dry

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Speaker 3: down the field in a minute in the rain. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was Tuesday when I started to like that prop.

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Speaker 3: And how would I know that it's going to be

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, anytime I lose a prop, I

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Speaker 3: And you know, the Patriots had a good game plan

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Speaker 3: comedy of errors for that under to hit and I

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Speaker 3: still think that was the play, but it was unfortunate

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Speaker 3: to lose that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was kind of total for me.

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Speaker 2: That last week was just a comedy of errors. Like

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Speaker 3: But like it was a Ryan Tannehill touchdown that really

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Speaker 3: I know, I've stopped.

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Speaker 2: I stopped betting on Ryan Danehill over. But I had

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Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson over forty. He had eleven targets, I think

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Speaker 2: like two of them were picked, and he still didn't

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Speaker 3: So yeah, because he finished for those that I know,

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Speaker 2: Exactly, So you know, half yard difference between now a

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Speaker 1: Life goes on. It was kind of a weird week

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Speaker 2: You know, player wise, you're always due for one of those,

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Speaker 2: But let's keep it going and talk week five, and

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Speaker 1: At the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: And we got to see Trey Lance for the first

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Speaker 1: Sean, he did not look good.

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Speaker 2: He got a lucky touchdown throw to Deebo Samuel that

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Speaker 2: I guess to me, which can still be very valuable

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, he didn't look great,

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Speaker 3: So it might be similar to justin fields where you know,

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Speaker 2: Eight thoughts on the impact, and I know we'll talk

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Speaker 1: You know that he created wait in the game.

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Speaker 2: But Lance was twenty ninth in passing grade among thirty two,

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Speaker 2: Does Lance's insertion relegate him to more like a wide

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Speaker 1: Do you expect some regression from Debo with Lance in

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Speaker 2: How about you, Yeah, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm a wait, worried about Dee.

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Speaker 2: Field's better performance. Matt Nagge's still saying Andy Dalton remains

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Speaker 2: term you know, Fields goes this week, we're firing him

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Speaker 3: And it remains to be seeing what's up with Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so we're probably not starting fields against the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lawrence is appealing this week. I hinted that it last.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is week to week with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 2: Joe Mixon was getting a ridiculous workload for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Play the pass.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of p Ryan? I'm with you here.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have him giving fifteen carries. He's the

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen it yet, so p Ran could get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean at this point as we recorded, I

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Speaker 1: So I'd probably go p Run either way.

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Speaker 2: We saw him get seventeen touches for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: We don't really know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the more valuable back will be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and mixing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just treating it like it's gonna be mixing.

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Speaker 1: To build some entries.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, we'll talk the Monday night football game between the

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Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders and the LA Chargers. Seawn starts off with

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Speaker 2: your prize picks and week entry for this matchup with

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Speaker 1: I'm going with a sneaky prop here.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Jalen Guiton to go over sixteen and

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Speaker 3: a half receiving yards. I'm projecting this culture at twenty

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Speaker 3: you had two catches for thirteen yards. Last week no catches.

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Speaker 3: But he's on the field running routes. We can pencil

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna regress upwards closer to ten eleven percent.

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Speaker 3: He had a five point seven average yards of separation

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Speaker 3: So you know, Herbert finds him when he's wide open,

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Speaker 1: He's a vertical threat.

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Speaker 3: So he's the kind of guy that could go over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Geyton is a guy who, again, he just needs

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Speaker 1: I haven't projected closer to three point three.

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Speaker 2: qualified cornerbacks in Pro Football Focuses grades, and Garrett Carr

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Speaker 2: himself has said, hey, we're trying I trust these guys

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Speaker 2: more and more because they've done it for me in

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going back to them. So year two

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Speaker 2: better matchup. He's already cleared this number in all three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this prop by. Like you said, I'm

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Speaker 3: like over a sixty percent chance. Yeah, he goes over

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Speaker 3: two and a half. Like you said, he's trusted throwing

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Speaker 3: sof Car is his trusting him, that means he's going

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Speaker 2: to the show, we saw the Eagles backfields continue to

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Speaker 2: be a nightmare. Kenneth Gainwell was more productive than Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Sanders did play forty seven snaps to Gainwell's twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those backdoors.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to start to see even out

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Speaker 2: as this season progresses. And I remember talking about this

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Speaker 2: with you before the season that it just didn't seem

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Speaker 2: like the Eagles were fully committed to Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Remember new coaching staff. They drafted Gainwell.

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Speaker 2: Obviously at the time the reports were, you know, okay,

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Speaker 2: they're kind of checking out Boston Scott. Obviously he fell

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Speaker 2: out of the pitcher. Altogether, it doesn't really get snaps

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Speaker 2: unless it's a blowout. But are you scared for Sanders here,

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Speaker 2: given that he's the old regime guy, gain was the

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Speaker 2: new regime guy, and Gainwell seems to be gaining ground here.

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Speaker 3: Noo, I'm terrified for Sanders. Scared not even it's Halloween season.

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Speaker 3: I am scared out of my mind for Sanders, and

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Speaker 3: I figured that Gainwell would only his role would only

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Speaker 3: grow as a season goes on, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 3: it's a new regime. He's very talented. Sanders might be

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Speaker 3: falling out of favor of the coaching staff with some

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Speaker 3: of his public comments. So it's yeah, it's what he said.

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Speaker 3: I actually missed that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: He was saying that they should run the ball more

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Speaker 3: things like that.

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Speaker 1: Probly so.

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Speaker 3: But and you know, I don't know if we really

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Speaker 3: want the past catching back with a scrambling quarterback like

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Speaker 3: with Jalen Hurts. But it's you know, non zero chance

497
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Speaker 3: that game Will could just take over the lead role.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's definitely I must add in you know,

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Speaker 3: PPR formats just because he does have RB two upside

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Speaker 3: if he does lead prog Sanders. But in the meantime,

501
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Speaker 3: this might be a situation to avoid completely. Sanders is

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Speaker 3: all the way down to like my running back thirty

503
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Speaker 3: right now, so the uncertainly doesn't help him, to say

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Speaker 3: the least. So Gangwill is the guy that I think

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Speaker 3: we should be adding right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think the writing's on the wall

507
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Speaker 2: for gain Wow to kind of take over that role

508
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Speaker 2: soon than later. I mean, he looks good out there.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like he looks bad or

510
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Speaker 2: he's been messing up. Here's an interesting stat for you,

511
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Speaker 2: and when here's the reason I'd be concerned from Mio Sanders.

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Speaker 2: You already have Jalen Hurts getting carries inside the ten.

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Speaker 2: So the Eagles have had seven carries inside the ten.

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Speaker 2: Hurts has gotten three the other two. The other four

515
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Speaker 2: have been split two to two by Gainwell and Sanders.

516
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Speaker 2: Sanders on his two carries inside the ten negative seven yards,

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Speaker 2: no touchdowns, Gainwell fifteen yards, two touchdowns. There if gain

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Speaker 2: O's he's yes, he's the receiving back in theory because

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Speaker 2: Sanders has always had trouble or lately he's had trouble

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Speaker 2: in that area, but gain was also becoming the more

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Speaker 2: trusted and effective red zone back then. What I mean,

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Speaker 2: Sanders is essentially like a mirror Abdula on the Lions

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Speaker 2: back in the day, you know, where it's just like

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Speaker 2: there's nothing there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm worried about him. I would.

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Speaker 2: You can't really sell at this point because it's his

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Speaker 2: value so low. But if we see like a you know,

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Speaker 2: Sander's patented long runs or something sell like a.

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Speaker 3: He breaks off an eight yar touchdown next week, that's

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Speaker 3: the time to sell exactly.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who likely won't be breaking off eighty

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Speaker 2: hour touchdowns anytime soon, we saw a little shift in

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Speaker 2: the Ravens backfield. We have to pour one out for

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Speaker 2: our guy, Tyson Williams, who is a healthy scratch over,

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Speaker 2: you know, instead of being one of 'veon Bell who

536
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Speaker 2: was elevated, or Devonte Freeman. So the way the snaps

537
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Speaker 2: broke down with Tavius Murray continued to get a stranglehold

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Speaker 2: on the backfield with forty five snaps to Bell's twenty

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Speaker 2: and Freeman's eight. So Murray kind of playing a majority

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Speaker 2: of the snaps here. It seems like they've settled on

541
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Speaker 2: him as that as that go to guy, and they're

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Speaker 2: kind of experimenting with, you know, everyone behind him. They

543
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Speaker 2: gave Tyson the first crack because they felt he earned

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Speaker 2: it just by being there. Now they look to be

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Speaker 2: working in Bell over Freeman. Thoughts on his backfield going forward, Sean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Latavius Murray is clearly the lead back now

547
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Speaker 3: He's the only guy I'm interested in he's still yet

548
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Speaker 3: to catch a pass though I need to look at

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Speaker 3: the Week four numbers, but he's been averaging like twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent routes run and still has yet to catch

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Speaker 3: a pass. That's why last week I was saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm very worried over Tyson Williams because he's been sort

553
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Speaker 3: of relegated to the pass catching back role, which is

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Speaker 3: not valuable in this offense. And you know, they had

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Speaker 3: been pointing out that he has been terrible in pass protection,

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Speaker 3: so that resulted in him being inactive. I didn't see

557
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Speaker 3: that coming, but I guess Leveon Bell's in playing shape now,

558
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Speaker 3: so you know, behind Latavius Murray, we could see LiveOn

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Speaker 3: Bell and Devonte Freeman sort of handling that pass catching work,

560
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Speaker 3: but Latavious is the back to own. He's a bit

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Speaker 3: touchdown dependent. You know, he has three touchdowns in four games,

562
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Speaker 3: so I'm not thrilled about him, but clearly he's in

563
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Speaker 3: that role we do want in the Ravens offense. So

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Speaker 3: in standard leagues he's probably you know, an RB three

565
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Speaker 3: flex play right now. I think he has a safe

566
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Speaker 3: hold on this job for now, but anything can happen.

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Speaker 3: We've already seen this Merry Go round of running back

568
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Speaker 3: to the Ravens, so it's just a nightmare. And at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, Lamar Jackson's their best runner,

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Speaker 3: so we have to remember that. But Latavius Murray is

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Speaker 3: the backdeing right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just think about how high up we

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Speaker 2: were and I thought it was probably even a little

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Speaker 2: too high.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we were drafting JK.

576
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Speaker 2: Dobbins pretty highly, you know, when he was healthy, and

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Speaker 2: it's kind of the same role. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: always going to be a second and maybe even a

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Speaker 2: third guy to mix in behind Dobbins. So if Murray's

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Speaker 2: going to be in that role in Baltimore's defense, I mean,

581
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Speaker 2: it's it's getting it's getting better. You know, it went

582
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Speaker 2: through a lot of injuries early in a year, but

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Speaker 2: we saw them kind of handle business against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Knock a quarterback out of the game. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: they're they're kind of getting back. You know, you knock

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Speaker 2: a quarterback out of the game, hold the team with

587
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Speaker 2: seven points for the last you know what three quarters

588
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Speaker 2: or so.

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Speaker 1: So I think his role will be that valuable the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Damien Harris thirty six snaps, Brandon Bolden night and

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Speaker 2: JJ Taylor four.

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Speaker 1: I think we kind of expected it backwards, right. We

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Speaker 1: thought Taylor would be the guy over Bolden, But Bolden's

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Speaker 1: been there a long time.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be like the James White.

596
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: So this is just this is kind of just a

597
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: positive for Damien Harris long term. Stevenson was still a

598
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Speaker 2: healthy scratch even though we were positive reports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we knew that Damien Harris everybody would struggle

600
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: against the Buccaneers. But man, this is a disaster. I'm

601
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Speaker 3: with you. I think Bolden's more of a short term

602
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Speaker 3: plan until they get JJ Taylor up to speed. But

603
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Speaker 3: I'm surprised we haven't heard like Duke Johnson or some

604
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Speaker 3: pass catching vet try out for the Pats, because I

605
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: think they do need somebody.

606
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Speaker 1: This could be a.

607
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Speaker 3: Situation Wheremandre Stevenson has a window to become a lead back.

608
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

609
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Speaker 3: I'm avoiding Patriots running backs outside of Damien Harris in

610
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: positive game scripts. This is just a situation I'm trying

611
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Speaker 3: to avoid. It's like a poor man's version of the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers, right where.

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Speaker 1: Rich Man the forty nine ers are the poors.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, absolutely, I'm not playing with I'm not

615
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Speaker 2: doing that. It's the Patriots. Like Bill has actually been consistent.

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Speaker 2: It's been like okay, Stevenson fucks up, Okay, bye, Like

617
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Speaker 2: like games.

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Speaker 1: White goes down.

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Speaker 2: We played Bolden more and we played bold and More

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Speaker 2: with with a week of preparation. Like he's been consistent,

621
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Speaker 2: you know, and what he's been doing, right, I agree.

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Speaker 3: We know when it's a Damien Harris week and they're

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Speaker 3: playing with Texans. So so if Damian Harris can't perform

624
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Speaker 3: well here, that's when a Stevenson opportunity might arise. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think they'll get back on track here with Damien Harris.

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Speaker 3: But who knows how the Bolden JJ Taylor, how that

627
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Speaker 3: situation is going to fold. But there is value. I

628
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: mean James White, he's out for the season, right, He's out.

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for the season. So there there's that past

631
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Speaker 3: catching role that's up for grabs. So we'll be interesting

632
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Speaker 3: to see how it pans out. But I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: to predict it right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Patriots of options, because remember what always

635
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Speaker 2: has to happen on pass catching snaps is about you know, uh,

636
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Speaker 2: maybe twenty thirty percent of the time you have to

637
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Speaker 2: leave somebody in the block. And the Patriots have two

638
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Speaker 2: pass catching tight ends that they can use.

639
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Speaker 1: You know, they have Jacob Johnson the fullback, so.

640
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Speaker 2: There are options to where they don't need to replace

641
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Speaker 2: James White with another James White.

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Speaker 1: They could and.

643
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourde was playing, well, they just got Nikhil Harry back.

644
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is playing, where they could go to four

645
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Speaker 2: wide more. You know, like the offense has a lot

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Speaker 2: of options that don't involve necessarily White as like that

647
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Speaker 2: as another pass catcher. So and I think that's also

648
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Speaker 2: why they're comfortable just playing Bullsen, you know, because he's

649
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Speaker 2: gonna probably pass p protect. He's been there, he knows

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Speaker 2: the system. He can take a draw play for you

651
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Speaker 2: here and there. He's not umble the ball. He's been

652
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Speaker 2: in the system for a decade now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to Flores for like a year, played

654
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Speaker 1: with him like you.

655
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Speaker 2: Know, so yeahs yeah, And that's probably why they're not

656
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: signing Duke Johnson because Bill O'Brien's built Belichick's friend.

657
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: He's probably like I coached Johnson, that dude was trash so.

658
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Well speaking, of Brian Flores though Dolphins running backs. I

659
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: guess maybe if you're another situation where if you are

660
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: like zero to four, one in three, struggling, you need

661
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of help, just a glimmer of hope,

662
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you try to pick up Malcolm Brown thirty

663
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: five snaps, Miles Gaskin twelve, savannakh Med five last week.

664
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Malcolm Brown is a glimmer of hope.

665
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: You know, hopefully you don't need to add Malcolm Brown.

666
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: If anything, the takeaway from this is just Miles Gaskin's

667
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: value tanked two carries for three yards, no receptions. I said,

668
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: he you know, he was a top the frozen pond

669
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Speaker 3: because we didn't know how this.

670
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Speaker 1: Running back situation would work week tweek.

671
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Speaker 3: So I'm afraid, like, we can't trust any of these

672
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: guys unless one of them goes down. But I'm still

673
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: holding on Gaskon. You can't drop them, you can't sell low.

674
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: But man, that was bad, and I think Gaskin's still

675
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: the back. I think he's going to have his weeks,

676
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: but just right now, it's impossible to trust any Dolphins

677
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: running back. I don't want to add Malcolm Brown. I'm

678
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: just holding on gasking and I'm not happy about it.

679
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: And I mean I didn't see any report of an injury,

680
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: but that's the only other thing I could think of,

681
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: because you know, that's you know, that's kind of what

682
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: happened as a week progressed with who we know, we

683
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: found out there's an injury, so maybe something will come out.

684
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, guys can play.

685
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 2: Twenty three percent of snaps got two touches, so that's Uh,

686
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: it could.

687
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: Be just flor U's I he's a hot hand kind

688
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: of guy. I mean, he was willing to bench to

689
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: a mend game last year, so why would he not

690
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: do that with running backs? I haven't I'm like you,

691
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I've been looking. I haven't seen any injury. He just

692
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: wasn't a factor and sort of a coach's decision, so

693
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: that that could be true going forward. It's just a

694
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: scary situation. Trust any of these Dolphins running backs.

695
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Speaker 1: All Right.

696
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Speaker 2: So now it's the time of the podcast where Weekly

697
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: listeners were familiar with. It's where I asked Sean, who's

698
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: the best back in the Atlanta backfield?

699
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: And why is it? Cord Aero Patterson?

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we sort of flagged

701
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: this our first waivers pod back in the Week two.

702
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe we need to pay attention to

703
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: this cord of Patterson. I think after three touchdowns it

704
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: might be time to sell high. I don't know, I

705
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: definitely want to get your opinion. But Hilly ran around

706
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: twenty seven percent of the time, and I think he's

707
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: seeing a target rate like forty percent of those routes,

708
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: so I think regressions coming. But we could also see

709
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: him just expand his playing time. So yeah, I'm treating him.

710
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Speaker 1: Like a mid range, low end RB two right now. Yeah,

711
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: with room to grow.

712
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: Is sort of the Kyle Pitts roll that we thought

713
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts would be. Just kind of like moving around

714
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Speaker 3: Kyle's es exactly this whole time. Is Corl Patterson, right, Yeah,

715
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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, we were right.

716
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: You know, we were right in the call to of hey,

717
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, we need to pump the brakes a little bit.

718
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: You know, I know, you know, Hockinson and Andrews haven't

719
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: been as consistent either. But the issue with Pitts was

720
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: that you probably missed out on a wide receiver that

721
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: would would have gave you some decent production in that

722
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: fourth round. So yeah, I don't think we can sell

723
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: high on Patterson because there's still too much uncertainty. And

724
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: here's something I noticed that I don't think it bodes

725
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: well for the long term. Obviously, Russell gage out Patterson,

726
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: you know, playing a little more receiver two. But every

727
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: time Patterson plays well and the rest of the Falcons

728
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of sputter because he's he's now he's responsible for

729
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: most of their touchdowns. This year, the Falcons have nine touchdowns.

730
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Patterson has five of them, so he has more than

731
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: half of their touchdowns. Davis Ridley, the Kias, and LEAs

732
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Smiths are the only other ones with touchdowns. So he's

733
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: playing too well to relegate to the bench. And here's

734
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: something that I think is concerning long term. Wayne Goldman

735
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: was active for the first time. He played ten snaps

736
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: at running back. Davis still played fifty one got into

737
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: the end zone. But Davis had thirteen carries for guess

738
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: how many yards?

739
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Speaker 1: Fourteen Because I'm looking at her.

740
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Right now, so oh, my hat tag not good, and listen,

741
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I give him props. He had a very good I

742
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: think it was a receiving touchdown where he broke a

743
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: couple of tackles I got of spun into.

744
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: The end zone. So it's not like he's completely washed up,

745
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: but it's.

746
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Almost I don't know if it's like a tip or

747
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: something when he's on the field at running back or what,

748
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: but Patterson just makes them harder to defend.

749
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: He's been more effective.

750
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Speaker 2: And let's remember Mike Davis for his career averages three

751
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: point six yards per carry. He's had four hundred and

752
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: sixty one carry So I just worry about Davis long term.

753
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: I think the guy I'd probably rather.

754
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: Sell on is Davis and just hold Patterson because if

755
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Gallman starts eating into Davis's snaps on a normal week,

756
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: where Patterson is already being that kind of like, you know,

757
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: thirty three to forty five percent running back, it could

758
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: get ugly for Davis.

759
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you there, And now it would be

760
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: the time that I not sell high on Davis. Just

761
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Speaker 3: sell Davis because he caught that receiving touchdown, so you

762
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: had to he had a.

763
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Speaker 1: Decent line at the end of the day.

764
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, I noticed Wayne Gallman being active too, So

765
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm projecting Gallman for four to five carries next week.

766
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: Davis is down to eleven.

767
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Speaker 3: And he hasn't been really effective with his carries either,

768
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: and you know Patterson's eating away at his receiving usage show.

769
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: Davis is being trapped into like this RB thirty five

770
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: value going forward. So if you can sell him for man,

771
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: I can't even think of options, but just you know,

772
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: a low endo RB two that might be this point two,

773
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe a Miles Gaskin, Miles Sanders, I

774
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: don't know, but just a comparable guy that you can

775
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: just get some value from him because his value could

776
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: tank very soon.

777
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can try for Cordero Patterson, actually could you imagine?

778
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no way you can do that now.

779
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: But he Mike Davis was a frozen Pond candidate and

780
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know who still carries from him,

781
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: Cordial Patterson, No way. So it's looking that way. So

782
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 3: Mike Davis, he is falling into the frozen pond.

783
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Oh he's dead.

784
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: He's averaging three point one yards per carry and and

785
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: five point zero yards per reception.

786
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: He's been completely ineffective.

787
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: And tell them wise, I mean, Wayne Gollman is not

788
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: too far off, like you said. You know, Mike Davis

789
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: doesn't have a strong pedigree. He's been in the league

790
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: for what six years now, last year, but yeah, there's

791
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: no reason Wayne Goalman can't pass him up any moment

792
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: right now, all.

793
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: Right, Uh, let's go to receivers really quickly.

794
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: Uh the injury impact on DJ of DJ sharks ankle injury,

795
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: he went on ir this probably you know, it just

796
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: kind of concentrates the targets a little more around Chanault,

797
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Marv Jones, Arnold, and Robinson more than I think another

798
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: receiver breaks in, right.

799
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

800
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 3: So I'm avoiding these Tavon, Austin, Jamal Agnew, even Tyron Johnson.

801
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: I do like him, but I'm just avoiding those.

802
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Like you said, it's he's gonna be beneficial for Chanel,

803
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: Marvin Jones, they have a higher floor ceiling comb every week.

804
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: And then Dan Arnold, I mean, he barely needed the

805
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: playbook and he still was involved last week, so we

806
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: could see an uptick with him. But I'm avoiding all

807
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: these other receivers.

808
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: I know people you know are going to ask about this,

809
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: so we should cover it. Josh Gordon signed with the

810
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: chiefs Andy Reid said he has a chance to play

811
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: in Week five.

812
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: What I think would happen.

813
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: Would Gordon's on the practice squad he have to he

814
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: would be elevated and essentially take that role long term

815
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: if he was to be on the roster that Doris

816
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: Fountain has, you know what I mean, that that kind

817
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: of six receiver role. But I don't think he's like

818
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: supplanting Marcus Kemp because kept plays special teams or something

819
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: like that. So just what are your thoughts on Gordon?

820
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Is he worth any type of stash, any chance that

821
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: he kind of plays ahead of Robinson or Hardman at

822
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: some point this year there's.

823
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: A chance for that.

824
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: So I think if you're in a deeper league and

825
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 3: you have bench space to waste, because it probably will

826
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: be a waste, go ahead and take a flyer on

827
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 3: him because you know he does have that potential. He's

828
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: in the Chiefs scheme, so we love that part. It

829
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: would have been better if he ended up on like

830
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: I don't know, the Jaguars or somewhere, but since he's

831
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: on the Chiefs, we can't ignore him. But we've seen

832
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: this movie time and time again where he lets us down.

833
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: He never performs, so I'm probably not sc you know,

834
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: racing to ad him in all my leagues, but certainly

835
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: in deeper leagues he's worth a fire.

836
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: And then for the Dolphins, Will four is of course

837
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: injured again. I mean I think I had him under

838
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: eight seventy on his prop for the year. That's looking

839
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: really good right about now. Finger injury week to week.

840
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: I like what this does for for Wado and Parker

841
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: who essentially are playing like full time snaps with with

842
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: fuller out and you're going against the Bucks this week,

843
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: and my is that a tasty bat show?

844
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: Which we we didn't think we would.

845
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Say, But it's kind of like San Francisco where it's

846
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: like you have a good defense, but when you have

847
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: injuries at corner, I mean, and you play a lot

848
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: of zone or even if you play like regardless of

849
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: the scheme. So San Francisco actually plays man, but the

850
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Bucks will play zone. They'll have that single high safety

851
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: at the time, but they're just banged up here. So

852
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is actually a good Wattle

853
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Parker week.

854
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

855
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: And it's it's hard to trust any Dolphins pass cutcher

856
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: when they're all healthy, because you know they have to

857
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: share two hundred to two hundred and ten passing yards.

858
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: So you know, a lot of these guys get left out.

859
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: Will four he hasn't looked like he's fit in in

860
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: this offense, So even when he does return, I'm not

861
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: sure we can project them for more than three catches

862
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: going forward anyways, But like you said, it certainly helps

863
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: raise the floor ceiling come of both Parker and Waddle,

864
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: so we can now be interested in them as you know,

865
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: low low end wide receiver threes wide receiver four flex plays.

866
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, it just it elevates their projections as well

867
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: as you know, mi keasiki so fuller helps open up

868
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: some targets.

869
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a week where the Bucks should be

870
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: able to score on the Dolphins, which creates a situation

871
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: where we could have a few more passing yards to

872
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: go around, not because of their efficiency, but just due

873
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: to the game script. So yeah, I think this week,

874
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, Wattle's another guy. I think he's he's still

875
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna see a blow a true blow.

876
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Up game from Wattle.

877
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: I think his underlying usage is still really good as well,

878
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: So like Waddle and let's uh, let's close it up talking.

879
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: You know, Brandon Ayuk one catch again, you know that's

880
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, he's obviously not someone we could trust games,

881
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: and Crowder is probably someone we could trust.

882
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: He looked, you know, like he was back in the

883
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: mix of things.

884
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: I think he'll continue to play in a slot even

885
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: when Elijah Moore comes back. Rashan Bateman maybe worth a

886
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: speculative ad, but remember Baltimore is not going to be

887
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: a high volume pass team.

888
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: It's just more, you know.

889
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: I think they are moving away from just flat out

890
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: run game a little. Lamar Jackson, I believe these two

891
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: past weeks like some of his highest two not the highest,

892
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: but like his two second and third highest passing totals

893
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: or last we could have been at least So any

894
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: thoughts on Bateman, I guess really quick before we go

895
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: to tight end.

896
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, like I'm less interesting than Bateman. I mean, obviously

897
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: there's a ton of upside. You can stash him in

898
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: deeper leagues. I think with Bateman he's going to help

899
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 3: elevate Lamar's passing game. So I think this helps Lamar,

900
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: and I have Lamar is the QB four this week.

901
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: I have Bateman catching like two and a half balls,

902
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: So if anything, this just helps.

903
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Lamar in the passing games. Yeah, So Kadari is Tony

904
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: or Bateman.

905
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Tony's already healthy and playing, but you know

906
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of due to injury.

907
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: Any thoughts on him, Yeah, Tony probably has a higher floor.

908
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: It remains we need to see how long Sterling Shepherd

909
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: and Darius Slaton are up, But as long as both

910
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: are out, I think Tony has a pretty high floor.

911
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: You know, I've been bagging on him a bit this year,

912
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: but you know he's shown them that he can get

913
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: three to four catches. They do like his design plays

914
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: to him. So yeah, he's an interesting flyer. In John Ross,

915
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: that was fun to see. So if Shephard and Slaton

916
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: are out this week, if you're in a deeper league

917
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: and just need a sky high ceiling, John, you can't

918
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: do worse than John Ross. So while these two receivers

919
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: are out, you know, I think Tony and Ross are

920
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: were flyers.

921
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Tony it might be my favorite because

922
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: he's I think he could have some value long term.

923
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: Seventy eight percent of the snaps, nine targets and a

924
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: carry last week. He could be like an arbitrage Rondeo

925
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: more because remember Slayton wasn't playing well and Shepherd can

926
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: play inside out, so you can kind of move guys

927
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: around a little bit in this offense to get Tony

928
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: on the field. And let's not forget Tony's highest snapcount

929
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: and highest touchcount. Seven touches, ten opportunities resulted in Daniel

930
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: Jones four hundred yard game and a Giant's first win

931
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: of the season in a dramatic fashion with putting up

932
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 2: really good offensive numbers and explosive plays against the number

933
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: two defense in the league coming in.

934
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, and they spent their first round pick on Tony. Yeah,

935
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: so they want him to thrive. They want to play

936
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: him sea out. He's a great ad. And yeah, even

937
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: he's the guy that wants Shepherd and Slayton return. He's

938
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: the only guy out of those two, he and Ross

939
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: that could even have value.

940
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: So I'm with you there. I think Tony is the

941
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: clear ad here.

942
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be like a remember when Odell Beckham.

943
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: I think he came back like week four and he started.

944
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: I'm a Giants fan.

945
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: We gotta have some type of hope here. Yeah. Rundale

946
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Moore is a good comp there. Yeah.

947
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: No, it's like you know what I mean, Like everyone's

948
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: thinking that that's the guy but in reality, Tony could

949
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: give you those numbers and better. I just have a

950
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion that no one's too happy with Slayton right now,

951
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: and Shepherd has never stayed healthy.

952
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: So all right, tight Ends, I'll ask it to you

953
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: this way.

954
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: You know you have some streaming options here, cj U

955
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: Soma going against the pack, Dawson knocks up against k

956
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: C Dalton Schultz, who continues to prove us wrong.

957
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: You were smart for holding off that next week.

958
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: I still like, I mean credit to Dallas and Dak

959
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Prescott first of all in Kellen Moore, They're they're doing

960
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: great things out there. But you have him going up

961
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: against the Giants this week, and uh and then Dan

962
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: Arnold against Tennessee. Which one of those guys, if you

963
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: had to pick one to stream, would you you go after.

964
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: I still think it's Dawson Knox, just because he's running

965
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: around seventy five percent of the routes for one of

966
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: the most potent passing offenses in the league. And I

967
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: called that back in the week two. I was like,

968
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: if he can keep up the seventy five percent share,

969
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: he's gonna be money. And it's you know, Unfortunately it's

970
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: come at the expense of Gabe Davis. You had mentioned

971
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: they're running more eleven personnel and you know Emmanuel Sanders

972
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: is running away with the wide receiver three roll, so

973
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: Gave Davis needs an injury to be relevant again.

974
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: But Dawson Knocks.

975
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean he's averaging seventy five percent routes run and

976
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: the touchdowns, the yards are coming. So it's knocks for

977
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: me because long term, I think he could be a

978
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: tight end one. Whereas you know Uzoma that might be

979
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: t Higgins was out. This is a good situation. He

980
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: was wide open one of those plays like that was

981
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: more of a fluky game. And Dalton Schultz, I will

982
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: admit I caved and I joined you on that under

983
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: so I lost again on Dalton Schultz.

984
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: But he's my tight end nine right now.

985
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't take the thing with tight ends, it

986
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 3: doesn't take much right now to be inside the top ten.

987
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: So Schultz, he's looked good.

988
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: I think Dak leans on him on certain situations, so

989
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: he's no slouch. But I think for me it's Dawson Knox.

990
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: He has just the most upside going forward this year.

991
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ran twenty three routes to Blake Jarwin's ten

992
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: and week four, So that's an improvement. They had been

993
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: pretty much splitting it even so like Schultz and yeah,

994
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: the other one, I would say, if Dawson Knox is

995
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: still available on your waiver wire, and he might not

996
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: be on everyone, he's got a couple of big games,

997
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: but if he is, you really want to lock him

998
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: in this week. The Chiefs are giving up heading into

999
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: the Monday night game the most catches thirty two and

1000
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: the most yards three hundred and sixty six to the

1001
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: tight end position. Also the most touchdowns five and they're

1002
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: not tied with anyone.

1003
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: They're just giving up. Yeah, so.

1004
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: I think the answers no, But does Dawson Knox have

1005
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: any drops this year? He has a seventy nine percent

1006
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: touch rate. I'm assuming he hasn't dropped the pass by

1007
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: I know he's working with hand eye coordinator. Think like

1008
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: he was just doing a lot of work in the

1009
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: off season to stop dropping the ball. So that could

1010
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: be one of the reasons why the coaching staff is,

1011
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, using him heavily. He's always had the talent.

1012
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, one drop, one drop, Oh he does have

1013
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: a drop. Yeah, I'll cod it the PFF, so you know,

1014
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: every side is different, but one drop on nineteen targets

1015
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: with fifteen catches PFF has him.

1016
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: For definitely an improvement from last year. Last year he

1017
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: was dropping the ball a time.

1018
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: So you know what I love to see.

1019
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: Only six percent pass blocking perfect, he's running routes.

1020
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: He's running routes. Yes, we love that out there.

1021
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeahy four contested catches out of five contested catch opportunities,

1022
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: so yeah, the underlying metrics are great. Josh Allen has

1023
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: a one thirty seven point eight passer rating when targeting

1024
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Dawson Knot with a first down on sixty percent of

1025
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: his reception, So very ascending guy. It's it's gonna be

1026
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: tough week to week, I think because they have so

1027
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: many options.

1028
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: They have Digs and Beasley and Sanders and even David

1029
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: and you know they still have running backs. But yeah,

1030
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: this is a great match.

1031
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: Every tight ends and even Travis Kelsey had a bad game.

1032
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Oh so every tight ends inconsistent. So all right, so.

1033
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: That is going to do it for our Week five

1034
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,400
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1035
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,839
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1036
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,400
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1037
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,000
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1038
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1039
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,560
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1040
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1041
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:44,360
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