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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites. Katie Golden has studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, it's a

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Speaker 1: listener questions episode. That's right. You send me your questions

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Speaker 1: and I answer them. You can email me at Creature

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Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com with your animal biology

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Speaker 1: questions and I will answer them. Uh sometimes I even

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Speaker 1: let's get right into it. First off, I have a

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Speaker 1: couple of really good questions from Eva H, so I'm

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Speaker 1: going to answer both of them, all right. In multiple episodes,

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Speaker 1: you talked about how when we domesticated dogs, their ears

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Speaker 1: got floppy and coats got spotted because of the genetic link.

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Speaker 1: But when these traits and a more calm demeanor. When

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Speaker 1: I shared that fun fact at the dinner table, my

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Speaker 1: father immediately shot me down, saying, what about German shepherds

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Speaker 1: and other similar breeds that have upright ears? I couldn't

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Speaker 1: Could you help me out and finding the answer? Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. In advance, Eva H from Slovenia, So

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Speaker 1: great question, Eva Um also, I will always back you

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Speaker 1: up in a fight against your dad. So the answer, well,

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Speaker 1: the short answer is we can selectively breed back traits

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Speaker 1: that were lost in dogs, such as stronger ear cartilage

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Speaker 1: or even aggression. So German shepherds and other breeds can

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Speaker 1: have ears that stick up um. But here's the longer answer.

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Speaker 1: So floppy ears and spotted coats aren't necessarily intrinsically tied

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Speaker 1: to calm behavior, but they are linked to neural crest cells,

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Speaker 1: namely the amount of neural crest cells. So neural crest

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Speaker 1: and other animals, the domestication process has actually resulted in

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Speaker 1: less proliferation of the neural crest cells. And because these

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Speaker 1: cells mediate a wide range of characteristics, the theory is

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Speaker 1: that by reducing the proliferation of neural crust cells, all

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Speaker 1: less aggressive, but also coincidentally, the lowered proliferation of these

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Speaker 1: cartilage production and melanine distribution, which can result in floppy

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Speaker 1: ears spotted coats. So this is called domestication syndrome. Now,

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Speaker 1: you can selectively breed back in the stronger ear cartilage,

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Speaker 1: you can breed back in different kinds of coats. But

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Speaker 1: if not, how is it possible to separate the ear

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Speaker 1: better understanding of how domestication syndrome works. I would suspect

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Speaker 1: that things like ear cartilage and aggression are not inevitably linked.

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Speaker 1: So I think you could probably breed back stronger ear

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Speaker 1: the Proteus anguinus deserves more love. It's also known as

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Speaker 1: So this is called neontony when an animal retains the

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