1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Making the American Farm Strong Again. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: Now. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 4: I was watching the real time press conference, the live 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: press conference going on with Kerr Starmer, the UK Prime 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 4: Minister and Donald Trump, where they were announcing a UK 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 4: US deal on trade, big trade deal, legitimately huge. And 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: then also the EU has announced a huge trade I remember, 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: the EU is actually the largest economy in the world. Now, 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: it's not a country, so we are still the number 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: one country. But if you add all the EU together, 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: it's the largest economy in the world. And so it's 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 4: meaningful to say the least that these deals went through 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: in Clay, before we get into the we have to 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: get into the Trump was right, and we said, guys, 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: give it time, give it time. 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: That you go back. 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: You listen. The great thing about this radio show is 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: if you ever were curious, when did the market tank, Clay, 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 4: when we're. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: April, it was in the absolute tank. Everybody was saying, hey, 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the economy's in trouble, recessions coming. Your four to oh 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: one k's are worthless. Trump has no idea what he's doing. 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: And we said hold your stocks. If you happen to 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: have additional money, now is the time probably to put 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: more money in buy and hold long term. And as 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: we are speaking to all of you this Monday, another 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: all time high in the S and P five hundred 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: in the Dow. If you just never checked your four 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: to oh one k year starts and you're like, hey, 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm only going to check it halfway. 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Through, you're up big on the year. 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: If you bought in April, you're up nearly thirty percent 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: from where those lows were when all the so called 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: experts were telling you that the world was falling apart. 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: So it is a huge victory lap moment for Trump 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: because we said at the time, and this was a 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: moment where the so called consensus was very much going 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: against Trump, right the economists, the CNBC watchers, and the 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: CNBC hosts, that that whole crew was, well, we all 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: know the trade deal, that this is going to lead 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: to trade wars and higher prices, and the stock market's 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 4: going to tank and it can lead to a recession. 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: And to be fair, and this is why I said, 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: you can go back and listen. We said, we do 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: not know that actually that Donald Trump has earned the 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: right to have the trust of the American people on 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: the economy and on negotiating trade, I think more than 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: really anything else. Maybe immigration too, but on the economy 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: and trade, he knows more than the people criticizing him. 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: He truly does. He understands these dynamics better than the 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: people out there, you know, the peanut gallery, the cheap seats, 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: you know, saying oh, he's gonna ruin everything. We have 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: huge trade deals announced. Here's just a little overview of 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: some of this. Okay, this was you had Trump yesterday 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: in Scotland, a Turnberry apparently a lovely golf course. Here 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: was Trump in Scotland talking about how look at where 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: the American economy is. Look at all this enthusiasm and 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: play this is cut seven. Play it every leader. 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: When I went to NATO the other day, every leader said, 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 5: you have the hottest country in the world. We have 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: the hottest country in the world. We're taking in hundreds 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 5: of billions of dollars. We have the highest stock market 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 5: we've ever had, we have the best numbers we've ever had. 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: But we have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: our country. And I think it's the hottest. And by 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: the way, one year ago our country was dead. We 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: had a dead country because of an incompetent president and 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: incompetent democrats. All they know how to do is talk 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: and think about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd waste 72 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 5: their time talking about America being great again, it would 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: be so much nicer, so much easier. 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: Clay, A big part of this, too is people looking 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: at these negotiations, these trade not now these deals, right, 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: negotiations have come to a conclusion it's a great deal 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 4: for America. They can't get around this that this has 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: improved the economic landscape for the American people. And this 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: is in so many ways the manifestation of an America 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: first trade policy, as in advantaging this country. 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Finally, what Trump is a master of is leverage. It's 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: the number one thing that he recognizes. If he gets 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: an inch on you, he will turn it into a mile. 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: And his thought and this is one of the things 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: that you can go back and watch Trump talking about 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: this for generations if you so desire, even on Oprah. 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: What he understands is this market is the most valuable 88 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: market to have access to in the world. And his 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: perspective on that is, there should be a cost that 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: we extract from other countries to be able to access 91 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: the richest market of consumers in the world. And everybody said, 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. There's no way this is going to work. 93 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: We had a balanced budget last month that nobody's talking about. 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 6: Now. 95 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: I understand that it can be somewhat of a calendar quirk, 96 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and look, we've got to get better and better. 97 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: But there's almost zero doubt that. 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: We are going to have hundreds of billions of dollars 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: in tariffs. And what Trump has said so far has 100 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: been true. The American consumer is not fronting those costs. 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: It is being eaten largely by manufacturers and other countries 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: that have cut back prices to try to remain competitive. 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Now we still have a deal to do with China. 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: But as we near August, First Liberation Day was in 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: early April. If I recall correctly, and if you just 106 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: didn't look at your stocks and now you suddenly decide, hey, 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: it's getting close to August. Maybe I'll go look at 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: my four to OHO one K. Maybe I'll go look 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: at the end X funds that I hold. You've got 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: record money, and I think people are feeling that you 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: are not seeing skyrocketing inflation. Inflation remains low and in 112 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: general wage growth, which is really the I would argue 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: the most important single stat is is wage growth outgrowing 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: cost of goods. If you had to synthesize what makes 115 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: you feel like you're doing better in general, it is 116 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: when your income as a worker is growing faster than 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: the cost of the goods that you purchase with your income. 118 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: And we have a situation where Trump has reversed the 119 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: downturn of Biden, and your incomes are growing faster than 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: the things that you have to buy now, I think 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: this is important. The prices are never going to come 122 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: back down, and this is the toxicity of inflation. By 123 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: and large, we never hit negative inflation. There are all 124 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: sorts of negative connotations economically that would occur. So the pernicious, awful, 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: dastardly part of inflation is it does not ever go back. 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: You're wanting to buy a hamburger for three dollars instead 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: of five, it's never gonna get returned to the three dollars. 128 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: All you can do is slow the rate of growth, 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: which is why I always compare it to putting on weight. 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: If you're continuing to put on weight sooner or later. 131 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: The fact that you're putting on weight at a lower 132 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: rate does not mean you're not going to be fat. 133 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: And so all of those are major issues that unfortunately 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: are going to stay with us from the Biden regime. 135 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: But Trump, Look, he ran on a economy, border crime, 136 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: and six months in buck I can't remember a president 137 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: who has more delivered on the things he said he 138 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: would deliver on than Trump in the first six months 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: has everything that he ran on. Economy, border crime is 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: infinitely better than it was under Biden. 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: And we're not even doing the comparison you could do, 142 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: which is imagine if Kamala. 143 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: Harris was president right now, well, yeah. 144 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: None of this and you know that would be the 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: thing that most people would go to. If Trump had 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: underperformed a little bit the first six months, ran into 147 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: some stumbles or whatever, you could always do the well, 148 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: at least it's not Kamala. And in this case, it's 149 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: like comparing the top student in the class to the 150 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: worst student in the class. Right, I mean, the difference 151 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: is night and day between the administration that you are 152 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: getting right now and what could have been and what 153 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: forty eight percent, forty nine percent or no, it was 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: more than that forty nine percent of the American people 155 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: voted for in this last election, which is insane, which 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: is to have Kamala Harris in charge of this economy, 157 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: none of these trade deals would have gotten done Trump. 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: This is just one of these moments where remember we 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: said we learned a lesson from the first term, which 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: was everyone quote unquote everyone said Trump is wrong on China. 161 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: He's wrong to take the approach you to China, And 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 4: not only was it correct in the implementation, it was 163 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: so correct that Biden didn't change it because they knew 164 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: that it would cause problems, it would be bad, right, 165 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: So he was right on China when everyone said he 166 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: was going to be wrong. Clay, I think what we're 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: seeing again is Trump will be right on trade negotiations 168 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: when quote unquote everyone said that he would be wrong. 169 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: Here he is on the trade deal with the EU. 170 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: We didn't even talk about this in specifics. Yeah, this 171 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: is cut eight play it. 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 5: This started months ago, this negotiation, so we knew pretty 173 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: much what we were getting into, and we were able 174 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: to make a deal that's very satisfactory to both So 175 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: it's tremendously. It's a very powerful deal. It's a very 176 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: big deal. It's the biggest of all the deals. It 177 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: will be the biggest of all the deals. So we're 178 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: very honored to have done so. 179 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: And it's a huge deal with the EU, as I said, 180 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 4: the largest actual economic zone on the planet because it's 181 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 4: all those countries put together. And now clay American producers 182 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: will be operating on a more level playing field with 183 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 4: trade partners like the EU. There's hundreds of billions of 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: dollars of investment that's agreed to from the EU. Here, 185 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: there's a lot of US energy that's going to be bought. 186 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: Additional energy is going to be bought by the EU. Now, 187 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: I mean, this is it's so good that they can't 188 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: even come up the Trump haters can't even come up 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: with a way to tell you it's bad. I think 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 4: that tells you everything. 191 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think they're running scared. I mean I 192 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit over the weekend. I 193 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: think Trump has been proven right on the Epstein stuff, 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: which I know people are still somewhat fired up about. 195 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: But Democrats, and I think there's audio of Trump talking 196 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: about this, but Democrats had these Epstein files for four years. 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: They're losing on the economy, they're losing on border, they're 198 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: losing on crime. So now they're trying to say, oh, 199 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: Trump's to blame for Epstein, and my thing on that 200 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: would be, well, you had the files for four years 201 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: under Joe Biden, why did you not release everything? Why 202 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: did you not bring all the charges. We'll see what's 203 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna end up happening there, But I do think it's 204 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: worth you all thinking about this. They've pivoted from economy, 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: border crime attacks to hey, all we can really hit 206 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Trump on is Epstein, And that is I think a sign, 207 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: honestly of how well he's doing on all the major 208 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: big issues the EBC, economy, border crime that he ran 209 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: on in the first six months that they're not even 210 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: really coming after him. I think they've recognized buck that 211 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: going after Trump on hey, he's deporting too many people 212 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: is actually harming them. You know, the Wall Street Journal 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: had an incredible that graphic over the weekend. Maybe we 214 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: can talk about this a little bit. Democrats have hit 215 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: a thirty five year low in popularity. That's pretty extraordinary 216 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: and the lowest level of popularity that has ever existed 217 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: because they are picking a lot of things to attack 218 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: Trump on that the vast majority of the American public 219 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: agrees with him on. 220 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: It is a good day everybody. Trump is taking a 221 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: much deserved victory lap. And just look at what's going 222 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: on with the economy all around you. I know that 223 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: sometimes good is less interesting or grabs the attention less 224 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: than catastrophe, especially in the news business. But there will 225 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: be challenges ahead. Trust me. Take take it in that 226 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: things are going well right now. One of the challenges 227 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: Trump talked about was really no progress with Russia at all, 228 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: so we can talk more about that. Trump is ticked 229 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: off at Putin. I could tell you from watching that 230 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: interview this morning and previous dates he's made, So that's 231 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: something that's going to get more attention now. And I 232 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: think Trump has the wind at his back. I think 233 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: Putin is underestimating the kind of pain that Trump is 234 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 4: willing to inflict economically on Russia to bring this thing 235 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: to a conclusion. So we can talk about that as well. 236 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: But on trade, Trump is not tired of winning. 237 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 238 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: We're joined by our friend Sean Davis, CEO and co 239 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: founder of the Federalists. Go to the Federalist dot com. 240 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: It is one of our favorite sites on the world 241 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: wide Web, which I don't think anybody calls it anymore 242 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: really that, but it is the worldwide Web Federalist dot Com. 243 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: Great work there, including what we're about to talk about. Sean, 244 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for taking a break from what you're doing to 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: chat with us. What's going on. 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 7: Well, thanks for having me back. It's a pleasure. 247 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: Let's dive into this, man Shelby, because so d and 248 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: I Gabbard I sat down with her and we had 249 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: a discussion in DC about a month month ago about 250 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: a lot of things, and certainly one of her mandates 251 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: is to clean up the deep state mess that was 252 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: well really the rot that spread from the top down 253 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: in places like the CIA. She has released information about 254 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: the soft coup attempt, or said the non violent coup 255 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: attempt maybe a better way to put against Donald Trump. 256 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: You are following very closely now, you and Molly Hemingway, 257 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: your colleague at the Federalists, have been on this for 258 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: a decade. 259 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 8: Now. 260 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: What is new and important that has come out. We're 261 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: going to walk everyone through this because the rest of 262 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: the media. Obviously they were in on the collusion, right, 263 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: I mean, they were in on the whole hoax, the fraud. 264 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: What is new that people need to know about now? 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 7: So I think to understand the importance of the new developments, 266 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 7: I think it's important to take a step back and 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 7: look at what they were trying to do with the 268 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 7: Russia collusion hoax back in sixteen and seventeen and eighteen. 269 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 7: And there were two main pillars of that entire hoax. 270 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 7: One of them was that Donald Trump personally colluded with 271 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 7: Russia and Putin to steal the election from Hillary, that 272 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 7: he was an agent of Russian, that he was working 273 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 7: with them. That was the whole Steele dossier. That was 274 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 7: the bulk of the Mueller thing. We know that was bunk. 275 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 7: We've known that with Bunk for a long time. But 276 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 7: before they could even and get to that phase of 277 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 7: the operation, they had the first point, which was the 278 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 7: claim that Russia meddled in our election in twenty sixteen 279 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 7: for the purpose of helping Donald Trump because Putin wanted 280 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 7: Trump to win. That was injected into the bloodstream, and 281 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 7: that was necessary to be there for people to believe 282 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 7: that Trump colluded. But what we learned last week from 283 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 7: the document releases from TULCA Gabbard is that that claim 284 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 7: was a lie. The CIA knew it was a lie. 285 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 7: Obama and Brennan and Comy were all told it was 286 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 7: a lie from their own experts, and they went ahead 287 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 7: with it anyway. They cooked the books, they fabricated evidence, 288 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 7: they ignored the experts, and they put out this bogus 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 7: Intel Community assessment claiming that Russia had interfered for the 290 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 7: purpose of Donald of helping Donald Trump win. And that 291 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 7: was a lie. 292 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: All right, Sean, thanks for coming on with us. Thanks 293 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: for also sharing a great hometown or our family town 294 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: right now. Sure you saw that the state of Tennessee, 295 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: according to CNBC, was the worst place in America to live. 296 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: And I think I speak for everyone out there when 297 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, you're right, it's awful. Please don't come here. 298 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: But you're running the Federalist, and I bet you get 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: asked this question a lot, and it's the number one 300 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: question I get asked as in regards to this story, 301 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Let's pretend you had a magic wand and you were 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: able to dictate policy from this point going forward, as 303 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: it pertains to what happened with Russia. 304 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: What should happen? 305 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: In your mind if you had that magic wand and 306 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: you were able to direct policy, what do you think 307 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: will happen? What is the significance, in other words, going forward, 308 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: not looking back, looking forward prospectively as to what should 309 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: happen and what will happen here? 310 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: So I think two things. If I can may wave 311 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 7: a magic wand, I'd make two things happen. Number One, Comy, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, 312 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 7: and Struck would all go to prison because somebody has 313 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 7: to pay a price for the crimes they perpetrated against 314 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 7: the country. 315 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: At minimum, they would be charged with a crime if 316 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: you were able. Okay, that is a concrete action. That's good. Okay, 317 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: what else? 318 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 7: And then the second, so that we're going to put 319 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 7: that in like kind of the law enforcement accountability for 320 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 7: the fraud bucket. The other bucket is we have to 321 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 7: make sure that something like this never happens again. And 322 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 7: there was actually a recommendation which was a really good 323 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: one in the document that came out last week, which 324 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 7: was a declassified Hipsy Report and investigation of the ICA 325 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 7: and then recommendations on what to do with it. And 326 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 7: I think this business where you had these these political 327 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 7: appointees going in and cooking the books and saying, you know, 328 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 7: we don't care if you don't think it's true. 329 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 6: We call it. 330 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 7: John Brennan said of the Steel dossier accusations when told 331 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 7: they were not true and not corroborated, but don't they 332 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 7: ring true? There has to be a way to remove 333 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 7: that type of political corruption from the process. And it's interesting. 334 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 7: For a long time, we kind of were led to 335 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 7: believe that all the experts agreed on the ICA, that 336 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 7: they all agreed that Russia was doing this to help Trump, 337 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 7: And the reality that we learned was that the experts 338 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 7: were saying, no, that's not true, and it was the 339 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 7: Democrat political appointees who demanded that it go in and 340 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 7: be released. 341 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: So what would you like to see now from the 342 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: DNI in terms of either further transparency and or actions 343 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: from within the IC the intelligence community sean to deal 344 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: with this at those levels, right, there's the accountability and 345 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 4: there's preventing this from happening in the future. What do 346 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: you think we should see from d and I Gabbard 347 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: and Dcia Ratcliffe, the Director of Central Intelligence to get 348 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: to those two goals? 349 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 7: Well, I think they've done a great job so far. 350 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 7: You know, Ratcliffe, to my understanding, was trying to get 351 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 7: these documents out back in twenty twenty, even before the election, 352 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: and was stymied by then a director Gina Haspell, who 353 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 7: It's interesting she was running London's office. Is the station 354 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 7: chief back when some of the original you know, hoax 355 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: intel that became the basis of Crossfire Hurricane came through 356 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 7: the London embassy. I would like to know more about 357 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 7: her role. I would like to know all the intel 358 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 7: that was used. I would like to know all of 359 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 7: the people who touched the lies, who signed the affidavits 360 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 7: for the fights of warrants. I think we need complete 361 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 7: and total transparency and openness about every single aspect of 362 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 7: how that hoax was run from the beginning. And luckily, 363 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 7: so far it seems like Ratcliffe and Gabbard are on 364 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 7: the same page there. I'm thankful that they have been 365 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 7: as forth right as. 366 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: They have been. 367 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: Also, the Obama factor in all this. You know the 368 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 4: names that you're talking about here, Sean Brennan, Clapper right. 369 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence. Brenner was the 370 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: Director of Central Intelligence. Brennan had been Obama's counter terrorisms 371 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 4: are in the White House Previously. Obama, though, is very 372 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: clearly implicated in this too. Now Clay and I have 373 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: talked about how he was the president. The Supreme Court's 374 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: weighed in he's not going to face charges. But I 375 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: do think it's important for people to understand that this 376 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: wasn't the IC independent of the White House under the 377 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: Obama administration. The collusion included the collusion of Obama and 378 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: his top people in the IC to try to essentially 379 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: hobble the Trump administration. 380 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that's a tricky one. You know. 381 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: Number one, we had the kind of presidential immunity thing. Obviously, 382 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 7: a president can't go out and like pop someone in 383 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 7: the head and be like I can kill whoever I 384 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 7: want on president, there's limits to it, clearly, but the 385 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 7: Supreme Court has ruled that the president has a wide 386 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 7: latitude to execute the authorities of his office. I actually wonder, 387 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 7: in looking what happened, if there is a better case 388 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 7: to be given that Obama's probably not going to get 389 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: hauled into a court and hecuff slam on him, might 390 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 7: it be better to look at what Brennan and Kmy 391 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 7: and Clapper did, and in the things they did in 392 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 7: response to Obama saying get all the intel, might it 393 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 7: be a better option to look at what they did 394 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 7: and say, you know what, they actually defrauded Obama. He 395 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 7: told them to get this info with the expectation of 396 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 7: what he was going to be given was accurate, and 397 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 7: instead they all got together and colluded and conspired to 398 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 7: give him bogus intel and to defraud not just the 399 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 7: American people, but the commander in chief and President of 400 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 7: the United States as well. I wonder if that might 401 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 7: be a better tack to take going forward. 402 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a super interesting idea. We're talking to 403 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Sean Davis. You can check him out at the Federalist. 404 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: Does great work there. 405 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 406 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned if you had the magic wand a lot 407 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: of this audience, and I would put myself in this 408 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: category is very skeptical that anybody in a position of 409 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: power in the Democrat Party is ever going to be 410 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: held accountable for anything that they have ever done on 411 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and I think this is where a lot of the 412 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: frustration Epstein everything else comes. You are Grandma who walked 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: in the Capital Jan sixth, Merrick Garland, the Biden DOJ. 414 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean they will manighacally focus on it to the 415 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: extent that they're going to do a pre morning raid 416 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: to arrest you for trespass on that day. Meanwhile, you 417 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: got all these different alleged crimes being committed by people 418 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: in positions of power on the left in the Democrat Party. 419 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: What do you think the chances are if you were 420 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: handicapping right now, Sean, that there will actually be charges brought. 421 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about convictions. I'm just talking about 422 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: charges brought against any of these individuals related to what 423 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: they did surrounding the Russia collusion. Lie. 424 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a hard question, because you know, I'm not 425 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 7: involved obviously in like the internal discussions about those types 426 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: of charges. I think they're far better now than they 427 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 7: ever have been, just kind of reading between the lines 428 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 7: the things we've seen and heard from Ratcliff, from Gabbard, 429 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 7: from Bondi. Bondi forming these DJ task forces to go 430 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 7: after the Russia hoaxers is opposed to doing a special counsel, 431 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: I think is a really good idea. These task forces 432 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 7: have traditionally been used by the federal government to get 433 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 7: cooperations from all the various agencies and were a major 434 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 7: tool used against the mob, against racketeering, against organized crime 435 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 7: early on, which is something you have to kind of 436 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 7: look at. You have to look at an organized conspiracy 437 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 7: in order to get around a lot of these statute 438 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 7: of limitations that you have. But I think it's important 439 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 7: to look at what happened like j six ers. These 440 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 7: were people who are put through the ringer. They were bankrupted, 441 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 7: their families were terrorized, they were eventually pardoned. Why is 442 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 7: the right not putting the left and the people who've 443 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 7: done far, far worse things to this country and can 444 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 7: get far greater crimes. Why are they not subjecting them 445 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 7: to the same punishment by process that the left is doing. 446 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 7: Because if anyone has ever been involved in any sort 447 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 7: of lawsuit criminal sibyl, they'll tell you it's awful, it's miserable. 448 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 7: It SAPs you of all types of energy and focus. 449 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 7: And what I don't understand is why is Congress in 450 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 7: their Oversight Committee not doing the exact same things to 451 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 7: the left. Why is DOJ not doing the exact same 452 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 7: thing to the left that they did to our side 453 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 7: for eight years? Because I do think the process is 454 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 7: the punishment and our side was terrorized by the process 455 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 7: for eight years, and it's about time the other side 456 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 7: gets a turn in the barrel if we're ever going 457 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 7: to get to a point where people decide we can't 458 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 7: do this anymore. 459 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Last question for you, a little bit quick here maybe 460 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: on the answer, and I know it's not a topic 461 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: that necessarily lends itself to a rapid answer. If the 462 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: Trump team we're listening right now, and I think there's 463 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: probably a decent chance that some of them are, what 464 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: advice would you give them on what they should do 465 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: for the Epstein controversy at this point? 466 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 7: Oh man, that's intriguing. 467 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: Thirty seconds. 468 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I wish they would just release everything. I get 469 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 7: why that is difficult. They've got an appeal with Gleame 470 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 7: Max going on now, there's a lot of victim right stuff. 471 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 7: I wish they would release everything, and if the conclusions 472 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 7: are different than what people are expecting, walk us through 473 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 7: why that is what they looked at. I just think 474 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 7: openness and transparency is the most important antidote here, and 475 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 7: I think it got over sold very early on by 476 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 7: some people in the administration and that caused them a 477 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 7: lot of problems, and they're now having to take themselves 478 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 7: out from that. 479 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I know I said last question, but I'm actually curious. 480 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: You run a digital media site. I sold one several 481 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: years ago. Can you tell a difference in the ad 482 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: market in Trump two point zero compared to Trump one 483 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: point zero? Does it feel fairer to you based on 484 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: the business that you run? 485 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 7: It doesn't to me. We were targeted for extinction by 486 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 7: the Biden admin and the entire left wing censorship industrial complex. 487 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 7: They try to get us blacklisted from Google, from Facebook, 488 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 7: they went after all the major ad players, got us 489 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 7: blacklisted there. So I say, no, we have not seen 490 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 7: any difference, but it's because of the damage that was 491 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 7: done to us by our own government and our own 492 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: tax dollars illegally was pretty significant, and so I haven't 493 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 7: seen the big change in the ad market yet, at 494 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 7: least for us. 495 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: That's something we should have a longer form discussion about sometime, 496 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: Sean Davis the Federalist, because I do think that's a 497 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: story that a lot of people don't understand how aggressively 498 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: the Biden team went after digital truth tellers, in my opinion, 499 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: to try to bankrupt them, and most of that story 500 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: really hasn't been told to a large degree. Appreciate the time, Sean. 501 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: Thank you both. 502 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 6: Take care. 503 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: The Team forty. 504 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers Making the American 505 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Farm Strong Again. 506 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 507 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Sean's perspective there, I think is really interesting because and 508 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have felt this too, Buck, and maybe 509 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: we'll take some calls on this. Eight hundred and two 510 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: two two eight A two. I think what I kind 511 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: of sense is that there is a deep seated distrust 512 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: that anything consequential is going to happen for any of this. 513 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: And I understand why because you know, look, I think 514 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: the chances of Obama being charged. I think Trump did 515 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: a good job of tamping that down. And you just 516 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: heard Sean Davis talk about presidential privilege and the ruling 517 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that came down from the Supreme Court. But I thought 518 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: his angle there, Buck, of Obama actually being defrauded in 519 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: some way by his intelligence agents. The challenge, though, and 520 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I want to get your perspective on it, is I 521 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: think again people think that there's one opinion that comes 522 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: out of the intelligence agencies, there's like a hundred as those. 523 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 4: I appreciated Sean's outside the box thinking on that one. 524 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: But I mean, remember a week ago was the discussion 525 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: was will Obama face charges based on what D and 526 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: I Gabbard was saying. So I don't think that exculpating 527 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 4: Obama is the way this is going to go forward. 528 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: I also don't think Obama's going to face charges, as 529 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: we said at the time, and I think you're going 530 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 4: to find out we were right. I don't think any 531 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: of them are going to face charges, and that's just 532 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 4: the way it's going to be. But that doesn't mean 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: we shouldn't know the information and shouldn't have access to 534 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: the truth, because at least then it can be a 535 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: political question. There can be political consequences to keep these 536 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 4: maniacs out of power going forward, But that may be 537 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: the best we can hope for in the situation. 538 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this on the program Thursday Friday, 539 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: as the fallout of all the revelations of Telsea Gabberd 540 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: really were unspooling. And I'm curious from your perspective two things. One, 541 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I do think this idea that there is one opinion. 542 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: I do think that you can hammer home that there 543 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: are hundreds of people working and they're fighting over what 544 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: the interpretation is. And I think there is the idea 545 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: out there that the intelligence agency has one opinion on 546 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: an issue, and I'd like for you to talk about 547 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: how that actually looks inside of an agency. Second part 548 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: of this, and I don't know the answer. I'm curious 549 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: how you would analyze this. Let's acknowledge that we think 550 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: that this whole thing was screwed up with Russia collusion. 551 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: Has it improved inside of the agencies? Is there something 552 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: that is going to be a positive of the mess 553 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: that unspooled? So from your perspective on those two how 554 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: would you analyze that multiple different perspectives and has anything 555 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: changed going forward? 556 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: There's so many perspectives that you generally can't even get 557 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: agreement within an office on an issue, never mind across agencies. 558 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: So that's always going to be just the reality. And 559 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: remember these are assessments, it's analysis. The intel community is 560 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: wrong a lot, even when there is some unanimity on things. 561 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: They you know, people they missed nine to eleven. Obviously, 562 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: they missed fall the Berlin Wall, they missed the uh 563 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: reality of the Afghanic. Well, there's a whole bunch of things. 564 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: Point to plenty of intelligence failures because really it's analysis 565 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: about what's going to happen, right, you're really talking about 566 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: predicting the future. The intelligence community doesn't put it forward 567 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: that way, but we think that this is what's going on, 568 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: and this is what's next. Is a lot of they 569 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: sometimes we call it opportunity analysis, or they're just trying 570 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: to trying to tell you what's going to happen, and 571 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: no one's good. No one can predict the future really, 572 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: as I always say, occasionally someone can, but no one 573 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: can with any consistency. So that's on that and then 574 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: so that was the first part of it, the multi 575 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: and then you're asking about is it going to get better? 576 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: Is it going to change? There's the accountability piece for 577 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: people that were inside who I think now at least 578 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: have gotten a public there's this sort of public retribution 579 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: against their reputations, Brendan Clapper and others. But you have 580 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: to change the culture of these places, and that's a 581 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: long term. That's a long term thing. The intelligence agencies 582 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: post nine to eleven got a lot of people who 583 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: were who were meat eaters so to speak, who wanted 584 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: to go get bin laden and a lot of them left. 585 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of guys and guys who 586 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: went in there to do the mission. And I'm not 587 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: speaking about myself here, but I certainly know plenty of 588 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: people that are in this in this boat, and the 589 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: bureaucracy took over and in the Obama years, they just 590 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 4: couldn't handle it anymore. So that's what I see with that. 591 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: And now let us uh, let us dive into some 592 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: of these calls. And we've got Charles in Northampton, Pennsylvania. 593 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: What's going on, Charles? 594 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 8: Yes, well, I was just thinking maybe we should look 595 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 8: at rather than putting people in jail, that we should 596 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 8: look for recovery of expenses for you know, court costs, uh, 597 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 8: maybe slander and libel, uh, lots of wages, emotional distress, 598 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 8: you know, the punitive damages, that kind of stuff towards 599 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 8: and hit Obama and the Clintons and Comy clap or 600 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 8: Brennan where it hurts, which would be the money that 601 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 8: they have in the bank that they've accumulated over the 602 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 8: last however many years. 603 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: Charles, I'm not really I'm not really seeing it. I mean, 604 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: in the case of the Obama's they're worth over one 605 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. I mean, they could hire lawyers for 606 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: the next century and it wouldn't really affect them very much, 607 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: so I don't think. And also they would have Obama 608 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: would have immunity in office as he was president. You 609 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: look at the others you're talking about bringing civil suits. 610 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: Bringing a civil suit is very expensive for the person 611 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: bringing it, right So, unless you're saying you want the 612 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: federal government to sue them on what, I'm not really 613 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: clear on how this would go. Clay, do you have 614 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: a better picture of this? 615 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: The only thing thanks for the call. The only thing 616 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: I can think is that he's saying he wants Trump 617 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: to sue and try to hold these individuals responsible. Here's 618 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: the challenge. First of all, most civil suit basis for 619 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: lawsuits the statute of limitations has expired, so I don't 620 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: know in front of me right now. Usually WI bol defamation, slander. 621 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: There's usually around to two year and individual states can differ, 622 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: but usually around to two year based. 623 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 4: I also don't think you could hit that hurdle. When 624 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: you're talking about a president, a public figure. You have 625 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: to prove actual malice, you have to prove all I 626 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: mean this is so the answer is no, I don't 627 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: think you're going to be able to get some kind 628 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: of civil judgment that destroys these people that work. 629 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: The people ask all the time, can you sue? The 630 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: answer is yes, you can sue for anything. The better 631 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 1: question is can you sue and have any likelihood of 632 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: success that is significant in nature? 633 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 6: For this? 634 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: The answer I think is no. And for people out 635 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: there who are confused, he was asking a question. I 636 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: think about civil lawsuits as opposed to criminal culpability. The 637 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: civil standard is lower. And look, I mean to your point, Buck, 638 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. Sometimes the process can be 639 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: the punishment. So yes, there are legal fees associated with 640 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: this everything else. I just I don't find that to 641 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: be a very likely or significantly likelihood of success on 642 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: that angle. 643 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: Tim in North Indiana? What's going on? Tim? 644 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 3: Hey, Fellaw's a great job. 645 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 7: By the way, I had. 646 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 3: Two things I wanted to bring up, and now I'll 647 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: hang up and you guys can discuss the work. 648 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 6: Is. 649 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: One is the Rico Statute. Is that something that could 650 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: be applied to these fifty one treasonous intelligence agents who 651 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: signed the fraudulent Crossfire Hurricane affidavits. That's one. Two If 652 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: there is evidence, hard evidence that Obama was involved in 653 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: that Pole debacle after January twentieth, twenty seventeen, when he's 654 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: no longer in the White House, he doesn't no longer 655 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: have presidential immunity, could he be Uh, you know, he 656 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: held to account on actions he performed after his termobopas Tim. 657 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for the question on the fifty one intelligence officials. 658 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: They they have a very straightforward defense which is going 659 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 4: to be very unsatisfying everybody to hear, which is I 660 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: was so dumb I believed it. And this is the problem, right, 661 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: you can't prove that there was a unless they were 662 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: unless they were writing down I'm lying about the You know, 663 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: you have people approve that they knew what they were 664 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: saying was not true. Uh, And it's very easy for 665 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 4: people to say, no, I'm dumb, I believed it. 666 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: That's it. 667 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: So I think it's very hard and Rico, as we 668 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 4: saw with Diddy Rico, you want to use against mobsters 669 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: and cartels and very limited cases because once you start 670 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: talking about racketeering and your corrupt corrupt influence, it's very 671 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 4: you know you do you don't I know they were 672 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: going to try this against Trump in Atlanta, and that 673 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: was a that was a preposterous case. Okay, yeah, it 674 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: couldn't even get that to first. They couldn't even get 675 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: that thing, so using Rico. I think a lot of 676 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 4: people like the Rico thing because they saw it in 677 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 4: the in the Batman Batman beginning, Well. 678 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: It sounds cool when you say Rico. You sound like 679 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: you're a super Look. I actually think he was asking 680 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: an interesting question on the back end, which is something 681 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court may have to apply the fact 682 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: pattern of their prior ruling, the six' to three decision 683 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: on presidential. POWER i think you just mentioned That, Atlanta georgia. 684 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: CASE i, think for, instance The Supreme court really hasn't addressed. 685 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: THIS i don't think you can bring state charges against a. 686 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: PRESIDENT i think that that would be the president has federal. 687 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: POWERS i don't think you can bring state charges like 688 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: they tried to Do Fanny willis In. Georgia that has 689 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: not gotten all the way to The Supreme. Court is my. 690 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Understanding someone out there can correct me If i'm. WRONG 691 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: i think The Supreme court only analyzed federal. Charges those 692 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: that were brought Against trump In, florida those that were 693 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: brought Against trump IN. Dc they didn't go into The 694 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: New york state, charges and again that was a very 695 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: specific business related. Charge the question he's asking is how 696 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: far does presidential privilege extend into the. Future, Right so 697 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: let's say That obama is protected Until january, twenty twenty, 698 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: seventeen or whatever the date was When trump came into, 699 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: office and then he undergoes and continues. ACTIONS i think 700 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: it Gets. 701 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: It's legally an interesting, theoretical but there's no you're not 702 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 4: going to find some Post obama presidency's smoking gun of 703 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 4: him In russia collusion that would still be admissible that. 704 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: WAY i, mean this is we're getting way down to things. 705 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Here they're asking, questions which are intelligent, questions AND i 706 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: think it actually becomes really. Interesting. Buck when you were 707 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: OUT i talked about. This one of the challenges of 708 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: all these, cases and this is me being a legal, 709 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: nerd is if the president has, protection which The Supreme 710 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: court has, said to do his, JOB i don't understand 711 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: how you pros acute people underneath the. President if the 712 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: president has protection to do it and he authorizes someone 713 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: underneath him to do, it it seems really unfair to 714 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: me to charge an underling who is responding to a president's. 715 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: Act in other, WORDS i think the presidential immunity ruling 716 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: is actually not only going to protect the. PRESIDENT i 717 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: think it is going to go to secondary and maybe 718 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: even tertiary. Figures there you go using it very appropriately 719 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: if you remember yesterday's, CALL i think it is going 720 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: to be a blanket in many ways of protection that 721 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: extends from the president and basically descends. DOWNWARDS i think 722 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: all this is a challenge What buck AND i are 723 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: trying to. 724 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 4: Do none of them are going to. Prison, okay this 725 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 4: Is i'm just none of them are going to. Prison 726 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 4: AND i don't even think they're going to get. Charged 727 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: And i'm just telling you this BECAUSE i don't want. 728 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: Anyone to. 729 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: Get your hopes. Up but there's going to be more, 730 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 4: accountability you. Know and If i'm, wrong of Course i'll 731 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 4: come out and, say, wow they Actually i'm. SORRY i 732 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 4: DON'T i don't see it. Happening AND i Remember i've 733 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: been through. This i've been through this all The benghazi, 734 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: hearings you, Know Trey, goudy you, know, shouting pounding the 735 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: table and everything. Else the whole TIME i was, saying 736 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: no one's gonna get in trouble for. This no one's 737 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 4: going to Get trump telling you, SO i don't think 738 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: this is going to be something that ends the way 739 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 4: that a lot of people are. Hoping gary And, Burlington Burlington, Junction. 740 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 4: Missouri what's going? 741 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: On? 742 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 6: Gary, YEAH i was just wanting to talk a little 743 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 6: bit about. That clay kind of answered my question there 744 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 6: about this, blanket blanket pardoner or whatever not pardon but 745 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 6: you know WHAT i. 746 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: Mean, Community, yeah, yeah. 747 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 6: Yeah AND i don't. Know we'll find the world after 748 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 6: The democrats did what they did To, trump how come 749 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 6: to shoot don't fit the other? 750 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 4: Side, well, again the problem that you run, against thank 751 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: you for calling, In. Gary the problem you run against 752 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 4: here over and over again is they even though we 753 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 4: know that for a whole bunch of, reasons they didn't 754 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 4: really believe the things that they were pretending to, believe 755 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: and they abuse the. System their fallback is always going. 756 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 4: Through this is the same thing With, come same thing With, 757 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 4: brennan same thing with the fifty one intelligence, officials all this. 758 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 4: Stuff they'll just, Say, OKAY i was. WRONG i THOUGHT 759 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: i was defending the country AND i was. Wrong that's 760 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 4: not a. Crime now we can all say bull. Crap 761 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 4: we know you know you were, lying but proving that 762 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 4: and fitting it into a statutory crime is the challenge. 763 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 4: Here those are different, things. 764 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: AND i appreciate the. CALL i DON'T i think people every, 765 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: crime by and, large there are some strict liability. Crimes 766 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: every crime requires an act and then they call it 767 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: an actisraya and then A men'sraa mensrea requires, Intent and 768 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: What buck is getting at, is in order to prove 769 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable, doubt you have to be able to 770 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: prove that they knew it was a lie and that 771 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,479 Speaker 1: they intended to propagate a. LIE i think What buck 772 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: is hitting on is the defense is going to be 773 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: very strongly rooted, in, hey we thought this was. True 774 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: and that's WHY i was asking him to, explain BECAUSE 775 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: i do think this. Matters there might be a thousand 776 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: different opinions about What Vladimir putin's health is right. Now 777 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: inside of THE, cia there's all these analysts working all the, 778 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: time and they are trying to look at whatever evidence 779 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: we have out, there and they're trying to, say, hey 780 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: we think he's one hundred percent. Healthy he's healthy as a, 781 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: horse he's going to live another twenty years and his 782 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: reign is going to. Continue somebody else might, say, HEY 783 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 1: i think there's evidence that he's been treated for some 784 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: sort of serious health related, condition and his power is 785 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: more tenuous than we. Think somebody's going to be, right 786 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: somebody's going to be, wrong but every spectrum of analysis 787 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: is going to be covered inside of. There AND i, 788 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: think AND i was of this opinion prior to understanding 789 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: doing this, show frankly and spending a little bit of, 790 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: TIME i kind of had the sense buck that the 791 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: law larger, world like there was one Interpretation i'm seeing 792 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: now like every interpretation under the sun basically is being 793 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: written at THE cia every day