1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news. And today Bloomberg Law 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: hos doing grosso at Michael Best discussed the hack of 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: the SEC's EDGAR document filing system, which granted hackers access 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: too closely guarded secrets from American companies. They speak with 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Robert Hawckett, a professor at Cornell University Law School, and 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Peter Henning, a professor Edwayne State University Law School. Peter, 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: the you know, most of the EDGAR system is publicly 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: available information. That's kind of the point, but there is 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: part of it that has some confidential information that apparently 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: is the subject of this hack. Explain exactly what it 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: is that got hacked into here. Well, the security breach 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: came through a portal that the SEC has so that 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: companies that recently went public could essentially take it for 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: a test drive and past materials on EDGAR. The requirement 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: is that whenever a company makes its disclosure quarterly or 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: annual earnings, that has to do that um immediately and 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: make it available to all investors at the same time. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: So it was a way for them to test it UM. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: But there are companies that will make filings. Uh. For example, 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: I p O s Now you can make what's essentially 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: a dark filing. You can put information in there that 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: isn't available to the public, that might have been available 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: to the hackers and would give them maybe some insight 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: information about what was going to happen at those companies 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: and perhaps others if they rummaged around through the system. 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: You just don't know what you're going to find. Bob, 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: the attack occurred last year. The SEC just disclosed it 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Is that against its own advice to companies 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: to announce cyber attacks promptly. Well, it's it's it's hard 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: to tell the type attrition. I mean, the problem is, um, 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: you know that the SEC is sort of forced start 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: faced with a dilemma. On the one hand, if it 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: reveals information that turns out not to be really that 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: important in the long gre term but sort of stokes 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: a panic or stokes sort of excess concern in the 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: short term, Uh, than it might well, you know, sort 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: of think better about having disclosed something too quickly. So 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: it's not sure whether to tell anybody right away because 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't want to cause more panic than might be warranted. 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: On the other hand, that being said, if it does 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: indeed turn out to be a significant problem, but then 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of course the SEC looks to have egg on its 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: face when it turns out that it knew the information 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: even sooner. In this particular case, I think what's particularly 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: important or maybe worth noting, is that it didn't reveal 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the information until it determines that somebody might actually have 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: used some still gotten information in order to engage in 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: some form of insider trading. And that's something the SEC 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: apparently only just learned. 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