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Speaker 9: away from the cold. It is Monday, April nine, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 9: Episode one fifty one of The Antic Imploring Podcast. Feel

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Speaker 9: like I need a couple of shots of one to

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Speaker 9: fifty one right now. We appreciate y'all being here. I'd

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Speaker 9: imagine this is one of the more anticipated shows that

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Speaker 9: we've ever done. So last week, Flow I opened the

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Speaker 9: show I think by saying something like you gotta be

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Speaker 9: show this week? Because I said that before any of

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Speaker 9: the real shit went down. I mean that was a

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Speaker 9: reaction to Tony Ferguson Habibermaco Meta going away for a

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Speaker 9: all hell broke, loose.

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Speaker 10: Man, insane man. So someone's been doing some voodoo ah

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Speaker 10: on those guys. That was insane. I mean again, we

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Speaker 10: were thinking, well, this is terrible. I can't believe this,

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Speaker 10: but we do have a great save in Max Holloway.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna come in. And then it got worse.

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Speaker 9: So I don't even know where to begin today, honestly.

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Speaker 9: Coming up, we will have our monthly chat with former

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Speaker 9: UFC commentator Brian Stan. Take a Stan, We'll talk to

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Speaker 9: UFC Featherway, Kyle Bochniak. What an effort with Peter Welsh,

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Speaker 9: by the way in his corner in defeat there against

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Speaker 9: zabeat Mago met Sharipov. This weekend full recap of UFC

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Speaker 9: two twenty three will get into all the chain is

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Speaker 9: the Conor McGregor stuff, of course, but as many of

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Speaker 9: you know, this ended up being a wild week for

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Speaker 9: raging Ally Quinta and of course by default Raymond Peter Longo,

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Speaker 9: who is a huge part of this show and has

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Speaker 9: been since episode one. So let us get to the man,

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Speaker 9: the myth, the legend, the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 8: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking

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Speaker 11: sept That's what I wanted, The Ray Longo minute during

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Speaker 11: Ray long The.

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Speaker 8: John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's the most anticipated segment in sports radio anyway.

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Speaker 3: Are you? And I think it's you inspired today?

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh. I mean, I'm really happy for you, guys,

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Speaker 9: I really am. And I know it was a crazy

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Speaker 9: week for you, and we're gonna get into everything that

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Speaker 9: happened before the fight. But the effort out of raging

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Speaker 9: Medov with no notice certainly had a full training camp

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Speaker 9: you know, happy with a loss, but this was not

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think if you understand the backstory on Ayah

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Speaker 11: Really, I got nothing but the utmost respect for that guy.

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Speaker 11: I think he tells it like it is. I think

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Speaker 11: spiritual guy. Tough dude, Hats off, I mean for even

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Speaker 11: taking the fight. But you know, look, man, we trained

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Speaker 11: He hasn't really had a full camp since twenty fifteen, right,

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Speaker 11: the one fight he had was what ninety seconds, and

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Speaker 11: heart and determination of a champion. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 11: think I just don't think there's a downside. I mean,

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Speaker 11: he went in there with an absolute assassin who has.

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Speaker 3: Really made people.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, he just got done with Bobosa where

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Speaker 3: For the guy who was horrible. This guy was in

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Speaker 11: I really, up until the last second, at any given

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Speaker 11: even though he was losing. I get it, But you know,

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Speaker 11: I got such belief in the kid. You know, again,

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Speaker 3: And there was always that suspense what if man.

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Speaker 11: And I think there was even in between rounds how

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody gives him respect.

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Speaker 11: He's look if all didn't a bunch of people out

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Speaker 11: before that, I get it, But you know, you never

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Speaker 10: Anyway, Ray, what were the discussions behind taking the fight?

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Speaker 11: He he demanded the fight. He looked there were a

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Speaker 11: We had a great warm up the day of the fight.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, there's so much drama that went on

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Speaker 11: Then it was, you know, fight, no title because he

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Speaker 11: that came in at point two. So for us, he

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Speaker 11: was technically on weight, but there was nothing in the

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Speaker 3: Know, didn't want to, you know, give him that.

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Speaker 11: But I think Dana White was very clear whoever won

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Speaker 3: He just really wanted to fight.

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Speaker 11: I think he wanted to test himself and he you know,

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Speaker 11: the kid is just a gamer man. He wanted to

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Speaker 11: the opportunity. I do believe that, and that's what his

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just think it speaks volumes

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 11: I didn't doubt it for a second. I was behind

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Speaker 3: You know he was going to be in there. I

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Speaker 3: it really is.

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Speaker 11: I just the wrestling thing bothered me, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 11: He just look, it's just a It was just more

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Speaker 11: I think they had a they had a really like

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Speaker 11: Two guys just threw it down and listen to Kabebe's credit,

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Speaker 11: hats off to Kabib man. He really he took a

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Speaker 1: How was ol spirit after the fight? What did he

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Speaker 11: I think I think his spirits were good, but he

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Speaker 11: was disappointed and I think, you know, he.

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Speaker 3: Thought he could have did better. And I think, you know, at.

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Speaker 11: The end of the fight, he wished he had trained

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Speaker 11: for five rounds because I think the conditioning became a

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Speaker 11: huge part of that fight after the first round, because

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Speaker 11: he just didn't have you know, we didn't train for

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Speaker 11: that type of energy system, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 11: where you constantly rest and getting back to the striking,

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Speaker 11: and you know, and again it was and we trained

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Speaker 11: big risk against the against an assassin.

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Speaker 9: So in terms of those twenty five minutes and their

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Speaker 9: value to you guys going forward, I mean no doubt

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Speaker 9: al Stock now goes through the roof, right. I mean,

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Speaker 9: this guy's fan base swelled considerably. He was able to

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Speaker 9: do this in front of his home crowd, which was

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Speaker 9: super inspirational. But I mean, I gotta think that, like,

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Speaker 9: next time he goes in there, it's like, I don't

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Speaker 9: care who I'm fought, Like, it's not Kabib, and it's

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Speaker 9: not twenty five minutes having only trained for fifteen, So

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Speaker 9: I's got.

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Speaker 1: To be a huge confidence booster.

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Speaker 11: I think you bring up a great point like Kenny,

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Speaker 11: it's like spar you're coming up the ranks and you're

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Speaker 11: sparing with the world champion and you're hanging in there.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like the next guy, he's not, He's not

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Speaker 9: Right he's going in there to take take on Kabib,

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, well you entertained by the fight, you

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Speaker 11: So they had already developed that that intrinsic bond between

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Speaker 3: Is just mind boggling to me. It really is.

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Speaker 11: And you know, I think I was talking to Latifi. Man,

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Speaker 3: Man to eye. This is really looking bad for that guy.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't get it.

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Speaker 11: I don't get it, and I don't think anybody gets it,

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Speaker 3: Make sure you hold me back.

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Speaker 11: Me back, John, don't let me get you know. That's

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Speaker 3: Man, it's a fight. It's two guys fighting. Just go

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Speaker 11: Wanted out of him, and that's exactly what he did,

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Speaker 9: Clearly Connor McGregor felt like he was retaliating for something,

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Speaker 3: Just real quick.

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Speaker 11: I mean, because remember that I wasn't Jesse Taylor kicked

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Speaker 3: I want to I just hope.

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Speaker 11: I'm pleading, don't make this an example of money.

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Speaker 3: Put you above everybody else. Do the right thing, you

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 11: Hand through a window injured people. I mean, that's almost

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Speaker 1: I believe so. But in terms of Al's future.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, why do you not want to

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Speaker 9: Obviously you won't you won't take a modicum of credit

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Speaker 11: But I really try to, you know, as an older

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Speaker 11: He did great in the fighting, but I think if

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Speaker 11: And I just hope he uh he does the right thing,

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you that poor lady is a saint.

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Speaker 9: She's married you keep saying to meet you as this

441
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Speaker 9: poor woman.

442
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Speaker 3: I should have an axe driven right through my forehead.

443
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Speaker 1: Might except yeah, it's I do feel feel badly for

444
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Speaker 1: your wife.

445
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Speaker 9: But but but uh hey, last thing from me and

446
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Speaker 9: then Kenny, if you got anything else on kabiban al

447
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 9: for Ray of course, did you happen to hear about

448
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Speaker 9: the scenario at the end of the Joe Lo's on

449
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Speaker 9: Chris Gritzmocker fight with with Joe los On's longtime chief

450
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Speaker 9: corner Steve Mays stepping in to stop that fight. Did

451
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Speaker 9: did you know that that happened or see it? Have

452
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Speaker 9: any idea about that situation?

453
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Speaker 3: Now, I had no idea. I love Steve Mays. I

454
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Speaker 3: saw him after the fight. I said, you did the

455
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Speaker 3: right thing.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I like it.

457
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Speaker 11: I like that whole camp man. It's just great people.

458
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Speaker 11: I'm always happy to see him at every fight. But no,

459
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Speaker 11: what was what happened with me?

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Speaker 1: Well, here's my question.

461
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Speaker 9: So I talked to too high level elite coaches whose

462
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Speaker 9: names you would know after the fight to see if

463
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Speaker 9: they would have done the same thing, and both of them,

464
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Speaker 9: Ken Flow told me on equivocally absolutely not.

465
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not in the business of stopping the fight.

466
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Speaker 9: My fighter would have had to intimate something to me,

467
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Speaker 9: I don't go down that road with sort of their

468
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Speaker 9: general thesis statement. And I see you shaking your head, right,

469
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Speaker 9: Joe Lo's on. This was his forty third professional fight.

470
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Speaker 9: He's thirty six years old. His face was shut right.

471
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Speaker 9: Steve Mays did the right thing in this situation, and

472
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Speaker 9: I think anybody who's on the other side of this,

473
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Speaker 9: you know, is not doing right by their fighter.

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Speaker 1: Ray.

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Speaker 9: I just think there are so few coaches that would

476
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Speaker 9: have done what Steve Mays did here, and the fact

477
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Speaker 9: that he would be in the minority to me is

478
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Speaker 9: really disappointing.

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Speaker 11: No, listen, he did what a good friend would do.

480
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Speaker 11: But look did he made a really hard decision.

481
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Speaker 3: He really did.

482
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Speaker 11: And only Steve Mays knows how that training camp went

483
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Speaker 11: and what he was dealing with too. So that's another

484
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Speaker 11: REX factor we don't know, Like he he probably knows

485
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Speaker 11: something we don't know.

486
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Speaker 3: But I will say this. Joel Is on warming up.

487
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Speaker 3: I was there, man, he looked like a fucking beast

488
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Speaker 3: warming up. He really did.

489
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Speaker 11: It was, if anything, he did too much of a

490
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Speaker 11: warm up. I mean, he looked really good. Uh, but no, look, man,

491
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Speaker 11: I love Mays. I think he makes the hard call.

492
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Speaker 11: And that really is a hard call because I remember

493
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Speaker 11: one time with Sarah. I always tell the story when

494
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Speaker 11: he fought Carol Parisian. He had two tor meniscuses and

495
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Speaker 11: we really had to cut the camp short and we said,

496
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Speaker 11: let's just go out there and take a shot. Man,

497
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Speaker 11: let's just end it early. And he did not carrow

498
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Speaker 11: down for the first guy ever knocked down in his life.

499
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Speaker 11: I thought they were going to stop the fight.

500
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Speaker 3: They didn't.

501
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Speaker 11: I knew he wasn't trained the right way per se

502
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Speaker 11: for a war like that. After that energy expended you,

503
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Speaker 11: and you see, Mike got so tired in that fight.

504
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 11: And I said to him, after you know, the second round, dude,

505
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Speaker 11: I mean, I think I'm going to stop the fight

506
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Speaker 11: because I.

507
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Speaker 3: Knew where he would, I knew what we did, and

508
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Speaker 3: I knew it could get out.

509
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Speaker 11: He wanted to kill me. I think he threatened to

510
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Speaker 11: kill me on the corner. So it's a really tough

511
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Speaker 11: thing because nobody wants that fight stopped. And I look,

512
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Speaker 11: you know, look, I'm going to look. I criticized like

513
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Speaker 11: Big Dan a lot of times. I want to give him.

514
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Speaker 11: I want to really give him a big compliment. I

515
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Speaker 11: thought he did a great job in Al's fight for

516
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Speaker 11: the reason I didn't even realize he was there. He

517
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Speaker 11: let the guys fight, and I had a conversation with

518
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Speaker 11: him before saying, look, if it gets to a Barbosa thing,

519
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Speaker 11: don't stop it. You know what I mean, Like, I

520
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Speaker 11: want this kid to have every opportunity unless you know,

521
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Speaker 11: you feel like Al's giving you the signal. But I

522
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Speaker 11: know Al's tough, and I know he could always come

523
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Speaker 11: back with something, and I know he wasn't going to

524
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Speaker 11: be intimidated. I know he wasn't afraid, and you know,

525
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Speaker 11: I thought Dan did a great job on that. But

526
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Speaker 11: as a trainer, you know, it's tough, man. I think

527
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Speaker 11: Mays makes the right call, and not only the right call,

528
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Speaker 11: he makes a very very tough call. But that's a

529
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Speaker 11: call that you make when you're with a guy for

530
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Speaker 11: you know, fifteen twenty years, and you're that close to

531
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Speaker 11: his family. Those guys are tight, they're like brothers. Of

532
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Speaker 11: course he's going to make that call, right. So I

533
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Speaker 11: applaud the guy, I really do, and I hope if

534
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Speaker 11: the time comes, I have the bulls to make the

535
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Speaker 11: right decision.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

537
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Speaker 9: Well, on that note, my man, we applaud you for

538
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Speaker 9: a huge effort this weekend with raging ally at Quinta.

539
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Speaker 9: I know you've got Aljamaine Sterling on the horizon. I

540
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Speaker 9: know Chris Widman is undergoing a second thumb surgery today,

541
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Speaker 9: so we wish him all the best. Appreciate the extended time,

542
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Speaker 9: my man, and and try to enjoy the fruit of

543
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Speaker 9: your labor a little bit. I mean, my god, he

544
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Speaker 9: see Ray Long going a picture with his crew. You know,

545
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Speaker 9: he looks like he's at a goddamn funeral. Ray, congratsy,

546
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Speaker 9: great congrats to you and the team.

547
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Speaker 10: And let's make sure doctor Frankenstein isn't doing that surgery

548
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Speaker 10: on his thumb again.

549
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Speaker 1: Please, no more scars man.

550
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Speaker 3: Crazy exactly.

551
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Speaker 11: Let me thank a couple of people to men because

552
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Speaker 11: Al's management team, Dave Martin Randall, they did a great job.

553
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Speaker 11: Ali Kabeb's team, I want to thank him. They really

554
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Speaker 11: put a lot of effident into making this fight happen.

555
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 11: Kabeb's whole team for taking the fight. And really special

556
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Speaker 11: to shout out to Heidi Dean who does a great

557
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Speaker 11: job in an absolute sweetheart that yeah went with me

558
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Speaker 11: to get my wife so she could come backstage, and

559
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Speaker 11: you know, really, you know, I even didn't even want

560
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 11: it to wait, we couldn't find her, and she stayed

561
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Speaker 11: with me. So I just want to give her a

562
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Speaker 11: special shout out because I she went above and beyond

563
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Speaker 11: and she saved me a lot of aggravation that night.

564
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Speaker 11: So thank you, Heidi Dean, and thank you everybody else,

565
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Speaker 11: even Ali, Like again, Dave Martin Randall, what a good job.

566
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Speaker 11: It wasn't easy getting this thing done. It really wasn't

567
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Speaker 11: and they put a lot of effort into it.

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Speaker 1: All right, my man, Well we hope you have a

569
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Speaker 1: great week.

570
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Speaker 9: How a long ago getting the VIP treatment can flow

571
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Speaker 9: for HD, you know, to get tay here of the wife. Hey,

572
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 9: thank you, buddy, heaving it deserves it. Have a great week, man,

573
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Speaker 9: Send al our best. We'll talk to you on Monday.

574
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Speaker 3: I will do Thanks guys, Thanks very thank you.

575
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Speaker 9: All right, the Ray Longo minute going twenty five strong

576
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Speaker 9: off the top of the show today. And for Ali

577
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Speaker 9: a Quinta, you know he sort of said in the

578
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Speaker 9: Diego Sanchez fight, Kenny, it's sort of a hail Mary translation.

579
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Speaker 9: Not that healthy going in there. What he made is

580
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 9: UFC debut against Ali a Quinta. That was Week thirteen

581
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Speaker 9: of The Ultimate Fighter Live. Al's limpin around the casino, right,

582
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 9: the guy can barely walk when he fuck Yesa that night,

583
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Speaker 9: So next level tough of course for Ally at Quinta.

584
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Speaker 9: Before we get back to kabbib Nermago Matov, I just

585
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Speaker 9: wanted to get your thoughts to sort of close the

586
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Speaker 9: book on Joe Lo's on Chris Gritzmocher. Certainly a big

587
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Speaker 9: win for Chris Gritzmocker got a lot of confidence with

588
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Speaker 9: his American top team coaches now Dean Thomas Pahoopa. But

589
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 9: thankfully Steve Mays intervened here and prevented Joe Lo's on

590
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Speaker 9: from taking further damage. I just I was stunned when

591
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Speaker 9: I asked a couple of coaches after the fact and

592
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Speaker 9: they said they wouldn't have done the same thing.

593
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's surprising, listen. I'll be honest. I did not

594
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 10: watch the fight. Yeah, I heard about it. I heard

595
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Speaker 10: that Joe Uh suffered a lot of punishment in that fight.

596
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 10: I think both of his eyes were closed. He was

597
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Speaker 10: he was taking a lot of shots. You have to

598
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Speaker 10: protect your fighter, you know, as a fighter, you know,

599
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Speaker 10: I remember telling my coaches a if something bad goes happen,

600
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Speaker 10: Remember when before the Sean Cherk fight, you know, I

601
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 10: had like five six fights in the UFC. Sean Jerk

602
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Speaker 10: had like well over you know, forty or something like that,

603
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Speaker 10: and I was like, all right, well, don't stop the fight.

604
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Speaker 10: If I'm in Trump, don't stop the fight.

605
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Speaker 1: Let me.

606
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Speaker 10: But that's me as a coach, you need to go

607
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 10: out there and protect your fighter. And Steve Mays absolutely

608
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 10: did the right thing. Nobody knows Jo Loo's on as

609
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Speaker 10: a fighter better than Steve Mays. So it is and

610
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Speaker 10: it's shocking because a lot of these coaches they've either

611
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 10: never fought, they don't even understand their fighter, and they

612
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 10: don't understand that there's permanent damage that happens to a guy,

613
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 10: right and you know the warrior spirit, Okay, yeah, listen,

614
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Speaker 10: he's not out there fighting a war. He's not defending

615
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Speaker 10: his family, he's not defending his country. He's out there

616
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Speaker 10: fighting for money. He's out there that's a part of

617
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Speaker 10: his job. And when people don't really see that, they

618
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Speaker 10: put a guy's life at risk. I mean really, and

619
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Speaker 10: that's what unfortunately, we're gonna have to learn from a

620
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 10: terrible lesson at some point if these coaches continue to

621
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Speaker 10: do these.

622
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Speaker 9: Things, I agree, man, And I'm pretty close with Steve

623
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Speaker 9: May is certainly closer with him than I am with

624
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Speaker 9: with Joe lo's On, whom I considered a friend as well,

625
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Speaker 9: although I try not to get too close with former

626
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 9: Ken Flow opponent just.

627
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Speaker 1: Know.

628
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 9: But what's interesting too is that this result Kenny might

629
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Speaker 9: get in the way of a proposed grappling match between

630
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Speaker 9: Joe los On and wait for it, he Florian, That's right,

631
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 9: how about it.

632
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Speaker 10: That's my brother. They were supposed to do a grappling match.

633
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Speaker 10: I don't know if that is going to go down.

634
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Speaker 10: That doesn't even matter at this point.

635
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Speaker 12: You know.

636
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Speaker 1: Our concern, you know, is that Joe is one hundred

637
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: percent and you know, hopefully he's healthy. Man.

638
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 10: He Joe is a great guy. Off sat and talked

639
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 10: to him any time I really interviewed him.

640
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Speaker 1: He's the best. Yeah, an awesome human being.

641
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Speaker 9: And uh and thankfully Steve Mays knows him better than

642
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 9: anybody maybe outside of his immediate family, and was there

643
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Speaker 9: to intervene so in sort of putting a bow on Beaven,

644
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Speaker 9: romanco Medab and later in the show, we will talk

645
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 9: to Brian Stands, so we will continue the two twenty

646
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 9: three recap sort of after we make picks on Glendale.

647
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 9: But it's very interesting to assess this performance from Jabib

648
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 9: Normaco Meda, because he really handled everything beautifully when it

649
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 9: came to the rumored five different opponents dominated this fight.

650
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't have an argument with a fifty

651
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: to forty four or a fifty to forty three.

652
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Speaker 9: I thought the jab was outstanding, even though at times

653
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Speaker 9: his team didn't necessarily love what he was able to

654
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Speaker 9: do with the jab. But you can't take a guy

655
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Speaker 9: down every single time you try, even if you are

656
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Speaker 9: this other worldly talent. And I think all things considered,

657
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Speaker 9: for Kabib, he didn't get the finish, but this was

658
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Speaker 9: a pretty clean performance. And the notion that a little

659
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 9: shine is off of this guy, maybe you're in that camp.

660
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 9: I'm certainly not in that camp just yet.

661
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Speaker 1: Oh geez. I mean, there's so much that you said

662
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: right there.

663
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Speaker 10: Let go, let's go back, Let's go to the fight itself, Okay,

664
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Speaker 10: And again we'll go back to Joe Rogan and whatever

665
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 10: he said. This is a difficult thing, and Joe's been

666
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 10: doing this a long time. He's the best right at

667
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 10: getting people excited for fights and calling he really is.

668
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 10: Here's the problem, though, we all become we all do this, okay,

669
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Speaker 10: myself included. We all do this is we get a

670
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 10: little too excited, and when we're hyping up a fight,

671
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 10: we back ourselves up into a corner sometimes by saying,

672
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 10: this guy is a monster, he's unsurpassed, we haven't seen

673
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 10: anything like it.

674
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: Now.

675
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 10: We have these impossible expectations on this fighter, right and now,

676
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 10: if he isn't that monster, if he isn't that guy

677
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 10: that we've never seen before, and we see him take

678
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 10: a shot or he doesn't finish one takedown, it changes

679
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 10: the whole narrative now of the fight.

680
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: Oh maybe this guy, Oh now, now he's this Now

681
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: you have to go the other way.

682
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 10: Could be Nirmaga Medoff has never been the best striker

683
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 10: in the world, And candidly, I don't know if he's

684
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 10: ever improved since his first fight. Necessarily, I think, you know,

685
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 10: as far as the striking game. But you know what,

686
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 10: he really hasn't had to. He's gone out there and

687
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 10: taking guys down and he mauls them. Let's go back now,

688
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 10: to the submission game. As far as finishing, he finished

689
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 10: Michael Johnson. What are the other finishes that Hibbebe has had.

690
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: No, he has one performance bonus Kenny in ten UFC appearances,

691
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: and that was in his last fight against Edson Riles.

692
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: So we need to make sure that.

693
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Speaker 10: When we're when we're talking about these fighters, that we

694
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 10: don't go overboard too much, because again it's not going

695
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 10: to it doesn't disservice to the fans, but also does

696
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 10: a disservice to the fighters themselves, right, And that's what

697
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 10: we have to be careful with.

698
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Speaker 1: Habib's performance was awesome. He was dominant.

699
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Speaker 10: I thought that Ali Kointa did a better job technically

700
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 10: of getting back to his feet than Edson Barbosa did. Yes,

701
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 10: he did right, so Edsen Barbosa again technically technically he's

702
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 10: the best striker in the game, but as he's also

703
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 10: a guy who lost to Jamie, right, So we need

704
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 10: to talk about all these things otherwise we're not telling

705
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 10: the full story. And I think for Aliaquinta, this guy

706
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 10: is tough as nails, and I thought given the circumstances,

707
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 10: the fact that he went five rounds with Habib still amazing. However,

708
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 10: Habib isn't known for his finishing ability. He's a guy

709
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 10: that breaks people's will. He's a guy that out wrestles you.

710
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 10: He's a guy that puts together nasty ground and pound

711
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 10: and gets you out of there. Mentally, his submission is

712
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 10: his pressure.

713
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Speaker 1: And you know, again, he'll never be the best striker

714
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: in the world, but he he might not have to be.

715
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, right now, I am prone to some of that.

716
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 9: And you know I talked to you all right, we

717
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 9: all and speaking in absolutes, and I'm certainly I think

718
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 9: more of a fanatic on this podcast than I am

719
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 9: in my day job, which is as a play by

720
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Speaker 9: play announcer for the UFC.

721
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to bring this up with you.

722
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Speaker 9: Brendan shab Our Buddy tweeted after the fight that kbibnerman

723
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 9: Gometov would now be the betting underdog against Tony Ferguson

724
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 9: and Connor McGregor on the heels of this performance. Now

725
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 9: we have talked about the Connor Habib fight. Kenny and

726
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 9: I both think it's pretty close on paper. Connor McGregor

727
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 9: is the guy that Kenny and I would pick to

728
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 9: beat Kabib if we had to choose somebody in this

729
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 9: top ten to beat him, but Kabib Rmango Medov Kenny

730
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 9: was a minus two to sixty favorite against Tony Ferguson, right,

731
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 9: who was coming back at plus two hundred about ten

732
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 9: days ago when that fight was still on paper. Now,

733
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 9: if you want to say it tightens up a little

734
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 9: bit because Kabib wasn't able to finish ally A Quinta

735
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Speaker 9: as a minus seven hundred favorite. I'm not going to

736
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 9: argue with you, but in my opinion, as I said,

737
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 9: there isn't much shine off of this guy.

738
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Speaker 1: You just set up exactly who he is.

739
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Speaker 9: I still think he's not all that far removed from

740
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 9: the Barboza performance, which to me proved him as the

741
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 9: most dominant force in the game. I still think he's

742
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 9: favored to beat Tony Ferguson, and I still think when

743
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 9: he fights the opponent that he prepares for, he's still

744
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 9: the one hundred and fifty five pounder that nobody in

745
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 9: this top fifteen wants to see on the other side

746
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 9: of the brack.

747
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not only that, we're assuming he's gonna fight

748
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Speaker 1: that same way that he did against Ala Aquitta against

749
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Speaker 1: someone else. Point you know what I mean, Like styles

750
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: make fights, So we can't say, oh, because he did this,

751
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: that means he's gonna try to stand up with Connor

752
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: McGregor and you utilize that jab, right, It's ridiculous. So again, Habib.

753
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 10: Felt so comfortable in there against Alaya Quinta that he said,

754
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 10: you know what, I feel comfortable of striking with this guy.

755
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a threat. I've felt his power.

756
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: He's not knocking me out.

757
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 10: I've been in there with I mean, he's wrestling one

758
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 10: hundred and seventy pounders, one hundred and eighty five pounders

759
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 10: at AKA. He's sparring these guys repeatedly. He knows what

760
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 10: power is, he knows what strength is. He knows how

761
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 10: to measure his risk and reward in a fight. He's

762
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 10: been doing this very long time. He's twenty five and zero,

763
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. So again, you know for Habi,

764
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Speaker 10: Now let's talk about his jab. Let's let's break it

765
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 10: down on a technical level. His job was awesome. His

766
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 10: jab wasn't the problem. It's what he was doing after

767
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 10: the jab. That right hand was completely down and after

768
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 10: he was jabbing, he was dropping his hands.

769
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Speaker 1: I think what he was doing. He wanted al to

770
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: come forward so he could hit the takedown. So again,

771
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: this is abid Ramaga metof he knows exactly what he's doing.

772
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Does he have the best striking in the world. No,

773
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't. That's never been his strength. But he really hasn't.

774
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 9: Needed it, right, He's never been knocked down in twenty

775
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 9: six pro fights, you know, and so I know defensively,

776
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 9: certainly there are things that a lot of people believe

777
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 9: he can shore up, and even just as simple as

778
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 9: maybe raising his guard more consistently. But perhaps that's a

779
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 9: byproduct of never having been knocked down, and once that happens,

780
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 9: maybe he'll make some changes. But I thought you hit

781
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 9: on a very important thing in terms of the evolution

782
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 9: of an Alief fighter, because you talk to any chief

783
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 9: corner type about any Alief fighter, and it's about sending

784
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 9: a different fighter out every time. It's not about sending

785
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 9: the same guy out there. Habib's going South Pond training

786
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 9: right now. Javier Mendez is looking at him like, what

787
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 9: are you doing?

788
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: Man?

789
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 9: It is a constant evolution, and hopefully Kabib can just

790
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 9: stay active. He has mastered this weight cut now and

791
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 9: that is a very good thing. So hopefully we get Kabe,

792
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 9: but at least once more here in twenty eighteen. We'll

793
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 9: circle back more to him later, Kenny, But I want

794
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 9: to segue to Rose nama Unis, and you want to

795
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Speaker 9: Young Jcheck, and I would think that this would be

796
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 9: even more satisfying a win for Rose. In fact, I

797
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 9: know it is because I was texting with Pat Barry

798
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 9: last night. This is an amazing result that she would

799
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Speaker 9: be able to beat Yoanna Young Jcheck in a kickboxing

800
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 9: match like this, and forget about the numbers and what

801
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 9: they say, right, this was a clear three to two

802
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 9: in my mind for Rose nama Yunis. And I just

803
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 9: have so much respect for this twenty five year old

804
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 9: and the way she carries herself and the way, despite

805
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 9: being admittedly as emotional as it gets, she can still

806
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 9: succeed in the toughest sport in the world. Man, A

807
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 9: lot of respect for Joanna in defeat, certainly, but thug

808
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 9: rosanama Unis does it again, my men, one.

809
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: Of my favorite fights of the year. This was a

810
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: very technical fight, you know, for yo Wanna.

811
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Speaker 10: You could see she was very very no She typically

812
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 10: is kind of a slow starter in my opinion, But

813
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 10: she seemed way too jittery. Rose seemed very calm and composed.

814
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 10: But more than anything else, John, you know, I think

815
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 10: the big difference between these two women, Yuana was fighting

816
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 10: and Rose had a plan.

817
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: She kept going to the same combinations. Why because she

818
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: knew that Yuana was exposed with that left hook. She

819
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: knew she could land that repeatedly.

820
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 10: She just needed to disguise it with other things, then

821
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 10: go back to the combination, then go back to that combination,

822
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 10: pressure her, look for a takedown late in the fight.

823
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 10: This was this was strategy against someone who's fighting. Yuana

824
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 10: was just fighting. Why she didn't go.

825
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Repeatedly back to that outside leg kick, I don't know.

826
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Speaker 10: You know if she if she was able to do that,

827
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 10: she would have not only taken away that left hook,

828
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 10: she would have slowed Rose Noaminunis down. She would have

829
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 10: been able to back her up and then take advantage

830
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 10: of the fight. I had the first two rounds for

831
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Speaker 10: Rose Nownis, I had the next two rounds for Yuanna

832
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 10: Young Jake check that fight was coming down to that

833
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 10: last and final fifth round, and it was Rose.

834
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: It was Rose who was able to back her up,

835
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: ignoring the pain.

836
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 10: I'm sure that she was feeling a little bit and

837
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 10: that and that lead leg Joanna was not attacking it,

838
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 10: so she was free to come forward keep continuing to

839
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 10: land some nice combinations on the inside on Yuanna. It

840
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 10: was interesting because if you look at both these women,

841
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 10: you look at both of their backgrounds, you'd think that

842
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 10: Juanna would be able to punch a lot harder. The

843
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 10: difference was the boxing skills of Rose. She was landing

844
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 10: some heavy shots. She was backing up yu Wanna. She

845
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 10: got her respect for her power early, reminding her of

846
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 10: that knockout back in New York the first time around. Yeah,

847
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 10: and hitting that takedown in the fifth round was just

848
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 10: a thing of beauty. This was just a perfect game

849
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 10: plan from Rose now Munison her team, And.

850
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 9: When you talk about clutch performances sometimes in MMA, you

851
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 9: don't look at that fifth round and say, man, was

852
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 9: that clutch? Right? I mean about a two two fight,

853
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 9: and the most dominant round of the fight was Rose

854
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 9: in round five, leaving no doubt in anyone's minds that

855
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 9: she had won that fight. Of course, on the judges' scorecards,

856
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 9: I don't think she actually needed it because it was

857
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 9: forty nine to forty six across the board, but she

858
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 9: certainly fought that last round as if she needed it. Now,

859
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 9: in terms of Yo Wanna you and jcheck and I

860
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 9: gotta say to Trevor Whitman's a damn genius. I know

861
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 9: you have to have the athlete who can go in

862
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 9: there and execute the game plan. But that guy is

863
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 9: next level in terms of what he has done and

864
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 9: with Rose at twenty five. But for Yoanna Kenny, I

865
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 9: know she went to the leg kick, and we've seen

866
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 9: some evolution, but largely there hasn't been much evolution inside

867
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 9: the octagon. She's doing everything in training. She's offensive wrestling

868
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 9: and training, she's defensive wrestling, she's grappling. When she's in

869
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 9: MMA Kenny, she's doing one thing and the opposition, you know,

870
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 9: they don't have that many things to prepare for.

871
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 10: Again, I don't know the circumstances around her training camp.

872
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 10: I do have a friend who is there at att

873
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 10: and a very well known guy, but you know, he's

874
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 10: not sure that they have the best game planning going

875
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 10: on over there right now. Again, this is what I'm hearing.

876
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 10: I don't know if that's the case, but watching the fight,

877
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 10: that may be true. And she has awesome coaches around her.

878
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I think she's being trained very well, how good of

879
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: a game plan, how well they're preparing for Rose Nomaunis,

880
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: though I don't know. You know, I would imagine that

881
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: yu Wanta is getting better as a fighter and all

882
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that stuff, But at the end of the day, you

883
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: do have to have these game plans, and sometimes they

884
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: get specific depending on the fighter. Sometimes they don't. What

885
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: did they do to expose Rose, I don't know.

886
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 10: It didn't seem like Youanna was like had a very

887
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 10: specific game plan on what she wanted to do, what

888
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 10: specific combination. She was just throwing a bunch of stuff,

889
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 10: which is great. She's good enough to maybe pull it off,

890
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 10: but not against Rose nam Unis. And I know that

891
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 10: Yo Wanna thought she won the fight. I was impressed

892
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 10: with her heart, with you know, the fact that she

893
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 10: definitely experienced some adversity early on, being down two rounds

894
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 10: in my opinion, in that fight and coming back and

895
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 10: starting to mount her comeback. But I don't know if

896
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 10: she had a very specific game plan of what she

897
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 10: needed to do to win that fight. And I think

898
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 10: there's a difference.

899
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 9: And even if there is a trilogy fight between Joanna

900
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 9: and Rose. I'm not suggesting that all of a sudden

901
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 9: it would be a game plan rooted in in ground

902
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 9: fighting for Johanna, right, But I just don't know as

903
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 9: dominant as she was in this division. I just think

904
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 9: that as the division evolves, and as the fellow elite

905
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 9: fighters evolve, it's going to get harder. I Jessica Androge

906
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 9: in a rematch with Joanna Young j Check in my opinion,

907
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 9: might even be favored and quickly Kenny before we get

908
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 9: to Glendale. Do you think that Jessica Andrage is going

909
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 9: to be next for Yoanna Young j check.

910
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: It would seem to me, or excuse.

911
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 9: Me, for Rose, for Ros, it would seem to me

912
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 9: like with those two wins back to back for Jessica

913
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 9: Andrage Tshatres and cloud Yagadelia, she's getting a second title

914
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 9: shot here against Rose, you know, maybe late summer, early fall.

915
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Man. I think she deserves I think Androge deserves it,

916
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: and I also think it's a very tough style matchup

917
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: for Rose now Munis.

918
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, but Rose just continues to get better. She really

919
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 10: impressed me in this fight. I thought Yoanna was gonna

920
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 10: edge her out. It was Rose who edged her out,

921
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 10: maybe even did more than edge her out. I was

922
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 10: blown away by her performance. Rose now Munis is the

923
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 10: real deal, and you know, I would love to see

924
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 10: her hold that belt for a long time.

925
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: She's amazing for the sport man. She's exactly what the

926
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: sport needs. She really is.

927
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 9: She really is just all class, dripping with class. And

928
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 9: we will have more on Rose and Yoanna more on

929
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 9: UFC two twenty three. Of course, later on we'll get

930
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 9: into Zabet Mago met Sharipov and his potential now moving

931
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 9: forward at one hundred and forty five pounds, But at

932
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 9: this moment in the show, we were scheduled to make

933
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 9: some picks.

934
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: So let's get to it. The Main Event Challenge.

935
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 8: It's the Main Event Challenge, and the.

936
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: Time is most definitively free. I finished fight. How do

937
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: everything possible to win?

938
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 8: The Main Event Challenge? With John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

939
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: All right, Ken Flop, First, we're going to update the standings.

940
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 9: I think we need someone else to be charged with

941
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 9: tabulating the standings because after today you're gonna be calling

942
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 9: for a recount because you made like ten picks, but

943
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 9: ninety percent of what you pick those fights went away,

944
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 9: I know, you know, with Anthony Pettis, and it did

945
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 9: make not so good Jenny, all right, so you know that, okay,

946
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 9: So so I let it thirty five thirty Going into

947
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 9: UFC two twenty three, our man Dallas made picks. He

948
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 9: thought he beat you by a point. So here's how

949
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 9: it went down. He had Olivia obam Mercier over Evan

950
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 9: Dunham as an underdog. He got you on, Carolinakovokoevitch over

951
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 9: Felice Herrig. He also had Rose nama Unis when we picked,

952
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 9: and for most of fight week thug Rose was the underdog,

953
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 9: So another two points there. Dallas wins the week. It's

954
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 9: a landslide five nil. First time ken Flow has been

955
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 9: shut out in the history of the Main Event Challenge.

956
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 9: It was circumstantial, but that's what the paper says. So

957
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 9: Team Annik now takes a commanding forty to thirty lead

958
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 9: going into the UFC Glendale and with us to make

959
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 9: picks today. Longtime anakan Florian podcast listener Michael McLaughlin, fresh

960
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 9: off a trip to Jamaica.

961
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: What's going on? Man?

962
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 14: What's up? Fellas?

963
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: Look at this guy?

964
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Man?

965
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: We look the cart crazy?

966
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 9: Well, we appreciate your time. It was a crazy week.

967
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 9: We spent a lot of the show on it and

968
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 9: will once we're done with you. But let's look ahead now. Glendale, Arizona, Fox,

969
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 9: UFC Fight Night, Big Fox, Justin Gaetchee, Dustin Poorier, fourteen

970
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 9: Flow fourteen fights on the fight card in Glendale, Arizona.

971
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 9: I'm crying if you're not watching this, I'm crying as

972
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 9: I say that six picks today, We'll start with the

973
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 9: main card opener strawweight, the Karate Hatty Michelle Waterson against

974
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 9: Courtney Casey. Casey coming off a split decision loss to

975
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 9: Police Harry, Waterson has dropped her last two Michael against

976
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 9: Rosenama Units Tisha Torres. So really only one spot here

977
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 9: for one of these women to leave here as a contender. Michael,

978
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 9: who you going with? Waterson or Casey?

979
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 14: You know, as much as I know the Karate Hot

980
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 14: he needs this one. I think Courtney's gonna have good

981
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 14: range on her and piece her up, you know, her

982
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 14: last couple two or three fights or decisions, and I

983
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 14: think she'll get the decision as well.

984
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Can Flow, Casey and Waterson.

985
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 9: As yet, By the way, no betting line lines on

986
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 9: any of these fights except for the main event, so

987
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 9: we'll adjust accordingly. But which way you go in here

988
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 9: figures to be pretty close, I would think, according to

989
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 9: Vegas Courtney Casey and Michelle Waterson.

990
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 10: But I got some work to do here, Johnny. I'm

991
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 10: gonna go the opposite way. I might go the opposite

992
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 10: way on all these picks, just because screw it, Michelle, listen.

993
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 10: I think Courtney. Courtney is a high pressure fighter. I

994
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 10: think she's gonna hit a little bit harder than Michelle.

995
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 10: Michelle does need to use her range, particularly her kicks.

996
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 10: She also wants to keep this on the feet. If

997
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 10: she does go to the ground, she wants to be

998
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 10: the one who gets on top. Gonna be an interesting one.

999
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna go Michelle, all right.

1000
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 9: Next up Fellas featured out here in Middleweight proceed as

1001
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 9: If Israel out of Sonya is the betting favorite against

1002
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 9: Marvin Vittori, the Italian. Vittori pretty good twenty seventeen for him,

1003
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 9: a draw and a win. Of course, a lot of

1004
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 9: people though, talking about Atasanya, despite Kenny being on the

1005
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 9: wrong side of the experience equation here eight or nine

1006
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 9: weeks removed from a UFC debut that really had everything.

1007
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 9: I know Ken Flow is not gonna pick against the

1008
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 9: last dial bender. Those guys are boys. What do you

1009
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 9: think Michael Vittori and Atasnia this weekend?

1010
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 11: Man?

1011
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 14: I think this one's a no brainerer Israel for sure.

1012
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 14: I think another guy that he's gonna have a considerable

1013
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 14: size and reach advantage. And I hear comparisons of John

1014
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 14: Jones and maybe not quite that, but I still think

1015
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 14: he gets it done.

1016
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 9: Ken Flow, you were ahead of the curve as usual

1017
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 9: on Israel outa Sonia. Your thoughts on his second UFC

1018
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 9: appearance here.

1019
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 10: I don't really love this matchup for him because I

1020
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 10: know that Vittori will probably rely heavily on trying to

1021
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 10: take him down and use his jiu jitsu designa that's

1022
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 10: not his strength right. However, I think Israel is a

1023
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 10: good enough striker to try to get victory out of there.

1024
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 10: I know he was dealing with some other stuff heading

1025
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 10: into his UC debut. I think he should be healthy

1026
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 10: heading into this one. I think Desagnya gets gets a

1027
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 10: TKO or a knockout all right.

1028
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 9: Co headliner Boys Alex cowboy O Lavera figures to be

1029
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 9: the underdog here, not just because he's stepping in on

1030
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 9: late notice, but because of the guy who will be

1031
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 9: in the red corner, Carlos Condit Matt Brown out with

1032
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 9: the torn acl By the way, and I do like

1033
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 9: Cowboy Olavera Kenny, I think maybe more than you because

1034
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 9: you like technique, and sometimes his technical acumen leaves a

1035
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 9: little bit to be desired. But certainly I know you

1036
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 9: agree that he's got heart and toughness and he's no

1037
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 9: stranger to stepping up for this promotion. He did in

1038
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 9: his UFC debut against Gilbert Orino Burns back in the day.

1039
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 9: Condit getting back in a regular schedule here after that

1040
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 9: extended layoff, he gets a late notice replacement here, Michael,

1041
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 9: your thoughts on this new comin event between Carlos Kndit

1042
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 9: and Alex Cowboy O Lvera.

1043
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 14: Man you know, natural born killa. You know I love

1044
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 14: the guy, grew up watching him, But his last three

1045
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 14: fights I don't see that same spark. I don't know

1046
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 14: if it's father time hitting him up or but I

1047
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 14: think Cowboy gets it done.

1048
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: So Cowboy as a betting underdog for Michael Kenny.

1049
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 9: Obviously last fight for Carlos Condit in December his return

1050
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 9: against Neil Magni as a slight betting favorite that night,

1051
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 9: it did not go his way.

1052
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this return now for Condit, Well, Michael

1053
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: makes a great point.

1054
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 10: Carlos content has been fighting for a very long time,

1055
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 10: and now it's hard to tell, right. Is it all

1056
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 10: these layoffs that's affecting Carlos Condit or is it maybe

1057
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 10: his passion for fighting is gone. We've heard him say

1058
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 10: he's going to retire. He's not going to retire, He's

1059
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 10: going to come back.

1060
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: He's not.

1061
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 10: I know he's busy as a dad and has other

1062
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 10: things that he likes to do, But I'm gonna stick

1063
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 10: with Condent. Listen, I think Olive Air could absolutely win

1064
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 10: this fight. His determination, his ability to really getting brawls.

1065
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 10: It's not a good style matchup for Condit, but I

1066
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 10: think I think Condic's gonna pull it down.

1067
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Hopefully he pulls it out.

1068
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 9: We'll see, all right, We'll see how it plays out,

1069
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 9: and then finally, guys the main event. Dustin Poorier, holding

1070
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 9: right now, is a minus one forty five favorite against

1071
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 9: Justin Gaichee, who comes back at plus one point fifteen

1072
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 9: of course this is the main event. We will need

1073
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 9: the round and the method of victory as well. Michael,

1074
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 9: the floor is yours, Poorier Gaichie, Who do you like

1075
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 9: this weekend?

1076
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 14: I'm pumped for this fight, man, this is I think

1077
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 14: this is gonna be a good Fightchi. He's an exciting fighter, man.

1078
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 14: I mean, he's a tough dude. But I just I

1079
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 14: don't see fights long. He's a smart I mean, each

1080
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 14: fight he's getting better and better. I don't see Gatechee

1081
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 14: grabbing the back of his head and upper cutting him.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the only thing I mean, aside from chopping

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Speaker 14: his legs to shit. Uh, I just don't see him

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00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 14: getting up and pieced up like that. I'm gonna go

1085
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Speaker 14: with the diamond third round knockout, all.

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Speaker 9: Right, third round knockout or t k O for Dustin Poorier,

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Speaker 9: Ken flow, which way you're going on the Glendale, Maine event?

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Speaker 10: Jeez again, this is one of those cases where I'm

1089
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Speaker 10: just gonna go the opposite way. You know, Dustin Pourier

1090
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 10: could absolutely win this fight.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I think he's the more technical fighter on the feet.

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Speaker 10: I think he's the more technical guy on the ground,

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Speaker 10: and I wouldn't be surprised if Poria actually tried to.

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Speaker 1: Put Gaichie on his back.

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Speaker 10: And from from my understanding is Porier has been working

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Speaker 10: a lot on his wrestling, on his ground game as well.

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Speaker 10: I think Geechee is susceptible to be taken down, and

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00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 10: from there, I think Poria could submit him for sure.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with Geegee because I need points, and

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Speaker 10: I think Poorier also has the ability to get in brawls.

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Speaker 1: Look at all of his last few fights.

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Speaker 10: He says he's gonna be more technical, but then he

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Speaker 10: gets in these crazy fights. And while I still think

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Speaker 10: that Poria could pull it off, I think Gaechie probably

1105
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 10: hits a little bit harder. I think Gatesge's gonna be

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Speaker 10: able to catch him at some point. Let's go second

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Speaker 10: round TKO for Geegee.

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Speaker 9: All right, Round two TKO for Justin Geechee Ken And

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Speaker 9: of course, in our scoring system, right plus one point

1110
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 9: fifteen that's the money range, right, you getting two points.

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00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 9: You're getting two points potentially for a close for a

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Speaker 9: fight that's very close on paper. So I understand the

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Speaker 9: reasoning behind it, all right, Michael McLaughlin, man appreciate you

1114
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 9: coming on and making picks today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks also for supporting the show. I know you have

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: for a while. We appreciate that. And best of luck

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Speaker 1: this weekend kid, Thanks.

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Speaker 14: Dude, I love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, good stuff. There's your main event challenge.

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Speaker 9: Sorry no quick picks on the way out, but we

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Speaker 9: got to give two twenty three what it is due.

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Speaker 1: But before we get there.

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Speaker 9: dot Com slash UFC toyotires dot Com slash UFC so

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00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: craziest fight week in UFC history. And of course we

1138
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 9: went from thirteen fights to nine. I mean we voice

1139
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 9: scenarios right like Friday, I was in my hotel room

1140
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 9: all day. I voice scenarios for Rosanama Unis and Yoanna

1141
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 9: You and Jcheck to be the main event. We voiced

1142
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Speaker 9: Paul Felder being the main event, Anthony Showtime Pettis of

1143
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: course to be the main events against got Biben, Normaco

1144
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Speaker 9: Meadow and then finally Ally Aquinta So's voice in like

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Speaker 9: five different scenarios. But thankfully the fights were really outstanding Brooklyn,

1146
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 9: New York crowd. That's as good a New York crowd

1147
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Speaker 9: as I have been a part of. And I think

1148
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Speaker 9: what really set the tone for the Championship fights was

1149
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Speaker 9: zabeat Mago Med Sharipov against Kyle Bockniak.

1150
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Speaker 1: This was a fight that initially, if you can believe,

1151
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: it was scheduled to.

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00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 9: Be the first fight of the night and it was

1153
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 9: moved to pay per view, and thankfully it was and

1154
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Speaker 9: with us on the guest line as a man who

1155
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Speaker 9: was a part of that mayhem. The Gloucester, Massachusetts native

1156
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Speaker 9: Kyle Bockniak is with us. Kyle, appreciate a few minutes today. Man,

1157
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Speaker 9: how you doing.

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00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 12: I'm doing great, man. Thanks for having me on.

1159
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 9: It's our absolute pleasure, and you look pretty good there

1160
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 9: in recovery. I didn't want to take up too much

1161
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Speaker 9: of your time today, but I just want to say,

1162
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 9: on behalf of MMA fans around the world, I want

1163
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 9: to thank you for your skill, your heart, your effort

1164
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 9: in this fight was zbeat this weekend because this is

1165
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 9: something that is going to stay with you no matter

1166
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 9: where you go in the career. I gotta think your

1167
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 9: fan base swelled pretty considerably after what we saw this weekend.

1168
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 13: But oh yeah, man, it's been crazy, like ten thousand plus,

1169
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 13: thirty thousand plus follow Instagram, Twitter.

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Speaker 12: You know, winnor lose. I had an opportunity of a lifetime.

1171
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Speaker 13: My fight was with Push up to the main card,

1172
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Speaker 13: and I knew I just needed to lay let it

1173
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 13: lay all online, win or lose, just leave my heart

1174
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 13: out there, and I knew, you know, it would be

1175
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Speaker 13: a victory.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into the strategy a little bit.

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Speaker 9: I mean a lot of people fancies beat Mago Metschaipov,

1178
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 9: a future UFC champion, and a lot of people liked

1179
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 9: your approach to be aggressive and to be fearless. We

1180
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 9: know you have fearlessness not an issue for you. You

1181
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 9: accepted this fight when many others wouldn't. But what was

1182
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 9: the game plan going in? And did you quite know

1183
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 9: what you were up against in Mago met Schaaripa.

1184
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 13: Yeah, I knew he was a stud. You know, he's

1185
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 13: he's been around for a while. I think it was

1186
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 13: a three time sambo champ over Russia. I knew it

1187
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 13: was gonna be a test. And these are the type

1188
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 13: of fights I like. I like tough guys. You know,

1189
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 13: winna lose. I'm gonna go bring it. You know, if

1190
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 13: the victory comes, it's awesome, no risk, no glory. The

1191
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 13: game plan going versus zabeat was, you know, just just

1192
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 13: to stay gritty, make it a make it a brawl.

1193
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 13: Sometimes you got to brawl a fighter, fighter brawler. I

1194
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 13: knew I had to get in his range and just

1195
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 13: you know, move my heead like Mike Tyson and throw bombs,

1196
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 13: defend his takedowns and just keep the pressure. And ah,

1197
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 13: I knew he would he would will eventually. You know,

1198
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 13: it just happened a little too late in the third.

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Speaker 13: If it was a five round fight, you know, I

1200
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 13: think I would have took the fight. But just basically,

1201
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 13: just make it a gritty, tough fight and just keep

1202
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 13: coming forward.

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Speaker 14: Kyle.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what you did.

1205
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Speaker 6: Man.

1206
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Speaker 10: You made Boston proud. You said, brawl a fighter and

1207
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 10: then fight a or box a brawler. That sounds like

1208
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 10: something Tommy Connors would say.

1209
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Speaker 1: Or Peter Welch. How have they helped you get ready

1210
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: for fights? Man?

1211
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Speaker 13: Yeah, man, that's exactly where it came from. See and

1212
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 13: Peter Welch. Man, just just throw down box a brawler. Yeah,

1213
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 13: brawl a fighter, man. You know, that's what it came

1214
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 13: down to you. I know he's very technical. You know

1215
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna he has more skills than me, and

1216
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 13: I knew, like you know, I have more heart than him,

1217
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 13: and I knew my mind is stronger. I don't think

1218
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 13: no one out there has a heart and mind it

1219
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 13: set as I do. You could teach skills and I'm

1220
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 13: still greening to the sport. I came to the UFC

1221
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 13: only six fights. I've been in the UFC for two

1222
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 13: years now. If you look at my fights, I grow

1223
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 13: every single fight exponentially. I have the mindset, I had

1224
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 13: the heart, and two years from now, I feel like

1225
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Speaker 13: I could be a contender for the belt. So I'm

1226
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 13: just gonna keep moving on, keep training, keep learning from

1227
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Speaker 13: Peter John Clark. I brought it with jiu jitsu, you know,

1228
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 13: crossrain at lows on. So I'm just gonna get better

1229
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Speaker 13: and better.

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Speaker 10: Kay, you obviously had this amazing belief in yourself, but

1231
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 10: sometimes you know, there's just that little bit where you're

1232
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 10: not quite sure, but you go out there and you

1233
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 10: fight a fight where you're like, you know what, I

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00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 10: know I could be the best.

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Speaker 1: Now is that what this has done for you? What

1236
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: does this do for you going forward? Now?

1237
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's definitely give me the confidence that I can

1238
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 13: hang with top level guys like creaming the crop so

1239
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 13: to speak. You know, I have the confidence, my cardio,

1240
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 13: my pressure, you know. Just like I said, I just

1241
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 13: gotta every fight's different. I can game plan for specifically

1242
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 13: for different people. My last fight, whereas Davis, I was

1243
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Speaker 13: on the outside of the pocket picking my shots versus

1244
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Speaker 13: Z that b I was all in just throwing down

1245
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 13: stick of my face South there to block his puny.

1246
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 13: So you know, it's different, and I definitely have the

1247
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 13: heart and athleticism and skill set in mindset to be

1248
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 13: a champ. I just got to get better and train

1249
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 13: in all these facets and areas of MMA.

1250
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Speaker 10: It was an entertaining fight, man, it was amazing. If

1251
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 10: you were able to change one thing, what would you

1252
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 10: change in that fight against that beat?

1253
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 13: Honestly, I wouldn't change anything, man. I I put my

1254
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 13: heart and soul on that fight, and uh, like I said,

1255
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 13: I want to lose. I have no regrets.

1256
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 12: I pushed.

1257
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 13: I left no boats in the chamber if anything. You know,

1258
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 13: I just want to straighten my right hand out a

1259
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 13: little bit and that's that's about it.

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Speaker 1: UFC.

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Speaker 9: Fatherway, Kyle Bochniak with us on the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 1: Didn't seem like you were badly hurt at any point

1263
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: in time? Is that fair to say?

1264
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

1265
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 13: No, I wasn't hurt at all. I felt strong the

1266
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 13: whole time I was defending its takedowns. A worry was

1267
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 13: if I got to the mat, I wouldn't be able

1268
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 13: to get back up. So we were we worked a

1269
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 13: lot of uh Matt returns, a hand fighting, scraped my

1270
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 13: back against the fence, just popping up so that you

1271
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 13: see a lot of guys once they get hit to

1272
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 13: the mat was a beat, they quit. I knew, Susan

1273
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 13: that Matt I needed to be like a cat and

1274
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 13: just spring up in hand fight, and that's what I did.

1275
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Speaker 12: My cardio felt great.

1276
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 13: I prepared well for this fight, and you know, I

1277
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 13: felt strong, felt good, and just wish it was a

1278
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 13: found round five round fight.

1279
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Speaker 12: I'm gonna have to put that in my contract. All

1280
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 12: fights be five rounds.

1281
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, right there you go. Well, maybe a main events

1282
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 9: not too far off in the future. Did you have

1283
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 9: any conversations with Dana White, Shawn Shelby or McK maynard

1284
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 9: after the fact.

1285
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 13: I know they right after the fight, the UFC wanted

1286
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 13: to bring me to the hospital make sure everything was okay,

1287
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 13: or through fractions just to be safe, insurance purposes and

1288
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 13: stuff like that. So I didn't have a chance to

1289
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 13: see Peter. I mean, Dana or Shelby or Tampa. I'm

1290
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 13: sure they have a lot of respect to me and

1291
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 13: they want to congratulate.

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Speaker 1: Me, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 9: And you get the fifty thousand dollars bonus and I

1294
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 9: think more important than that bonus. I think just this

1295
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 9: puts you in such good stead with the promotion. And

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Speaker 9: let's not forget you have a win already this year

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00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 9: against Brandon Davis. So but for you and your wife, right, like,

1298
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 9: and I know how tight you guys are and how

1299
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 9: much she has meant to your career. Right to see

1300
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 9: Forrest Griffin tweet you know, Kyle Bockney, act's my new

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00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 9: favorite fighter to get the fifty thousand dollars bonus, Like,

1302
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 9: I got to imagine that triggers some pretty powerful emotions

1303
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 9: in a marriage when you put so much stock into

1304
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 9: this career and you start to have some seminal moments

1305
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 9: like this.

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00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, of course, man, you said it perfectly, Like basically,

1307
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 13: I'm an investment. I've been an investment for the past

1308
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 13: six years. She's been helping me with everything, paying the bills,

1309
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 13: the mortgage, the cell phone bills, the food, and you know,

1310
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 13: just to get that performance bonus and just to give

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 13: back a little bit, and for someone that I've looked

1312
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 13: up to for so long, forced Griffin to tweet us

1313
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 13: something like that, like it pays dividends and to know

1314
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 13: that one on the right track and This investment is

1315
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 13: real and it's going.

1316
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Speaker 1: To pay off well.

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Speaker 9: As ken Flow said, perfectly, Man, you did Boston, Massachusetts

1318
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 9: proud and for two guys who lived basically the first

1319
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 9: thirty years of our life in that metro West Massachusetts pocket.

1320
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 9: And we're certainly glad to call you one of our own.

1321
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 9: So I guess you get some time off now, right,

1322
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 9: I mean, you had the Davis fight in January, this

1323
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 9: fight in April.

1324
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: What's the calendar look like for you the rest of

1325
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen?

1326
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I would love to fight again a

1327
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 13: couple of months, but I have a little orbital fracture,

1328
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 13: so I think it's gonna be mandatory three months at

1329
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 13: least three to six months less cleared by a doctor.

1330
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Speaker 12: But you know, me and my wife, we're gonna go

1331
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 12: to Spain in June.

1332
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Speaker 13: We're gonna enjoy it down there a little bit, and

1333
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 13: I'm sure I'm gonna be back back in camp hopefully

1334
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 13: and looking for my next My next fight.

1335
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Speaker 9: Well, you have earned it, man, Kyle Bockniak. That fight

1336
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 9: certainly going to be a cornerstone of your legacy. We

1337
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 9: hope you get healthy and we look forward to at

1338
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Speaker 9: least one more start before the year's out.

1339
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Speaker 1: Bud, thanks for hopping on with us today, right, you

1340
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: got it?

1341
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 12: Thank you much.

1342
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Give a hut, give a hug to Peter and TC.

1343
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 13: For me, I will bro And So it's awesome talking

1344
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 13: to you, Kenny Man. I've been looking up I look

1345
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 13: out for you for so long. Man, So thanks for

1346
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 13: having me on.

1347
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: You're the man. Amazing fight brother.

1348
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 12: Thank you brother.

1349
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 9: Now I'm really getting chill. See what people compliment can flow.

1350
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Speaker 9: It gets me all excited. Yeah, Kyle Bokniac with us

1351
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 9: on the Florid and I figured I was safe to

1352
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 9: book a Peter Welch guy. You know, it's always good

1353
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 9: to see Peter back at these UFC shows. Obviously he

1354
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 9: was a staple there during your era and nice to see.

1355
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 9: I know he's only got a couple guys on the roster,

1356
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 9: but it's nice to see your former boxing coach there

1357
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 9: in the big show.

1358
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Speaker 1: You know the man.

1359
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 9: So in terms of that fight, man like, and I

1360
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 9: said it on the broadcast to Rogan, I was like,

1361
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 9: you haven't seen this guy fight live before?

1362
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1363
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 9: I went to Shanghai for Thanksgiving and I would have

1364
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 9: rather probably broken bread with my family, but Zabeat was

1365
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 9: on the card, so I was like, all right, I'll

1366
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 9: go to Shanghai. And I sort of say that tongue

1367
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 9: in cheek, but this dude is special. This is one

1368
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 9: of the and hey, if I'm speaking in too many absolutes,

1369
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 9: ken flow, so be it right. But I've sat there

1370
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 9: for one hundred and twenty UFC live events. This is

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Speaker 9: one of the more special, complete fluid mixed martial arts

1372
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 9: athletes that I have ever seen. Not to mention the

1373
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 9: fact that he broke his hand during pre fight warmups,

1374
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 9: but this guy, with this frame at one hundred and

1375
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 9: forty five pounds, it's hard to believe that at one

1376
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 9: point in time he's not going to be fighting for

1377
01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 9: the belt.

1378
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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 10: I think what makes him specials the fact that he's

1380
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 10: absolutely fearless when he competes. He's not afraid to pull

1381
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 10: the trigger. And I think for a lot of guys,

1382
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 10: you can overanalyze things. You know, you could be scared

1383
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 10: to throw a certain technique. This guy will throw a

1384
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 10: spinning attack, He'll throw you know, whatever it is. He'll

1385
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 10: jump off the cage, it does not matter. I think

1386
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 10: those are the kind of things that actually makes him

1387
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 10: sharper and makes him better as a fighter. Extremely well rounded,

1388
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 10: very tall for the division, tough as nails as well

1389
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 10: if he needs to be. Yeah, I mean, this is

1390
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 10: a guy who I think can go very far. Is

1391
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 10: he a perfect fighter in every aspect? No, there's very

1392
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 10: few that are. I don't think there's I mean maybe

1393
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 10: top zero point zero five percent, you know there are

1394
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 10: so for his Zabit though, he just has a style

1395
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 10: that is going to be difficult for anyone out there.

1396
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 10: He can wrestle, he can strike, he can keep you

1397
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 10: on the outside, he can submit you as well.

1398
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: Zabeit is gonna be very tough to beat. Man Man.

1399
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Speaker 10: He is a special fighter, and Mark Henry's been talking

1400
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 10: about him for a very long time. My understanding is

1401
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 10: that he's an absolute killer in training and he's proven

1402
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 10: to be a killer in the octagon as well.

1403
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 9: When Mark Henry got to Shanghai and I saw him

1404
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 9: and Heikardo al Made in the lobby, he said to me,

1405
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 9: He's like, I'm just praying Zabeat doesn't want to train

1406
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 9: all day every day, right, because.

1407
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: It was a quick turn for him.

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Speaker 9: I think, get a show the week before and he's like,

1409
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 9: just got to Shanghai and Zabeat's probably gonna him pold

1410
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 9: pads literally all day long. I mean, there's no doubt

1411
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 9: that there's a work ethic behind it to us. And

1412
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 9: this is also a lifelong athlete. He was very good

1413
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 9: at other sports, had a lot of opportunities growing up

1414
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 9: in Daugistan. So you injected Mark Henry's name into the conversation.

1415
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 9: I want to bring this up because Labeat Mago met

1416
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 9: Sharipop is certainly he's getting a top fifteen opponent. They're

1417
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 9: going to find somebody that is going to sign on

1418
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 9: the dotted line. The name that he has called out

1419
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 9: now twice is Yaya Rodriguez. So Yaya responded on Twitter,

1420
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 9: congrats on a great win, Zabiat. It would be an

1421
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 9: honor to fight you one day. We'll have to meet

1422
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 9: each other in the top ten, which I know you'll

1423
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 9: make quick lee. My next fight is coming up, so

1424
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 9: stay tuned. So it seems as though Yayer Rodriguez is

1425
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 9: already booked. But Mark Henry responded in kind with arguably

1426
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 9: the tweet of the year. So here's Mark Henry. Really

1427
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 9: respect you, Yeah, year, I should say you're an incredible fighter.

1428
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 9: But Frankie gave you a massive shot when you hadn't

1429
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 9: beaten a single guy in the top thirty and took

1430
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 9: a massive risk you could return the favor to his teammate.

1431
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 9: That's a great mark. Henry, very very respectful and trying

1432
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 9: to see if he can get that fight with Yayi Rodriguez.

1433
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 9: So a lot more to get into on UFC two

1434
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 9: twenty three. Now time to call on the greatest living American,

1435
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 9: Brian stand for take a stand.

1436
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: He's now time to take a stand with the All

1437
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: American and Brian Stands.

1438
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 4: On the Ana Employian podcast.

1439
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 9: Well, it's always a better Monday when we can photoshop

1440
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 9: Brian Stan's face on a boat.

1441
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Captain Coo is with us. I like the eagle scream.

1442
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: That's my favorite.

1443
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 15: How's it going, guys?

1444
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: What's up? Dude?

1445
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 9: So collared shirts required? I see you're wearing a collared shirt.

1446
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 9: If I come work for you, do I have to

1447
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 9: wear a collared shirt?

1448
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 7: Listen constantly? All right, I'm riding a desk. I've got

1449
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 7: to travel around. I've got to meet with investors this week.

1450
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 7: But don't worry. All right, I've already hit the gym.

1451
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 7: Of course, you have deadlifted over four hundred and fifty

1452
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: pounds yesterday. I just got to find I've got to

1453
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 7: find some time to get a little bit of sparring,

1454
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: a little bit more.

1455
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 15: Grappling in one of these days. I've just been. It's

1456
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 15: been really really busy and very very challenging, but good

1457
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 15: in a good way.

1458
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 10: And it hasn't deadlifted four hundred and fifty pounds throughout

1459
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 10: his whole life.

1460
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, that is true.

1461
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 9: I'm gonna start deadlifting. So hey, So Joe Silva texted

1462
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 9: me this weekend. So glad I'm retired, right, And certainly

1463
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 9: this was a matchmaker's nightmare in a lot of respects,

1464
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 9: and I think for commentators there were challenges as well.

1465
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 9: The fans don't want to hear all about that. But

1466
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 9: when you're watching all of this happen, Connor McGregor throwing

1467
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 9: a dolly at a bus full of competing fighters and

1468
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 9: habibnrmago Matt, I'll link to five different main event opponents.

1469
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 9: Are you missing the chaos or are you sort of thinking, man,

1470
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Speaker 9: I don't envy those guys this week.

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Speaker 7: No, you know, I didn't miss that chaos, and I

1472
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 7: was glad to not be a part of it. To

1473
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 7: be quite honest with you, the security at that building

1474
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 7: should be ashamed of themselves.

1475
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 15: That's pathetic.

1476
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 7: It could have been a lot worse, and when you

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Speaker 7: look at instances that have taken place even in the

1478
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 7: deer city of Las Vegas, and what happened there just

1479
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 7: about a year ago, it could have been much worse,

1480
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 7: and it could have been with a much worse crowd. Obviously,

1481
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 7: I don't think Connor went there with plans to really

1482
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 7: hurt anybody significantly, but what he did was absolutely stupid.

1483
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 7: And I think this has been something that has been

1484
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 7: growing for a long time and the UFC is reaping

1485
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 7: a little bit of what they sell.

1486
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 15: When you allow someone to live above the rules for

1487
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 15: so long.

1488
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 7: And really write their own rules and do what they want,

1489
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 7: this is what's going to happen, And not saying that

1490
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 7: that I knew at all or that I could anybody.

1491
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 7: It's a challenging situation and I think that the best

1492
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 7: is that they really need to learn from this and

1493
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 7: for all of their events now, there needs to be

1494
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 7: better security. Those venues have got to be more responsible.

1495
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 7: UFC security can't handle everything. They do a good job

1496
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 7: with throwing internal security. But how thirty people like that

1497
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 7: can rush somewhere, get in and get to that part

1498
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Speaker 7: of the building while they're running around like animals, Yeah,

1499
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Speaker 7: is beyond me. And I just, you know, I hope

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 7: that this doesn't snowball. We've seen some athletes really just

1501
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 7: uproot and destroy their careers. When I the times that

1502
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 7: I've met Connor McGregor, he's actually been a respectful, hard working,

1503
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 7: focused young man that I left each time I met

1504
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 7: him very impressed. And so I'm hoping that this was

1505
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 7: an incident where he really realizes, man, I went too far,

1506
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 7: I made a bad mistake, and that he controls himself

1507
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 7: well because he's a phenomenal athlete and I would hate

1508
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 7: to see this destroy that and more important than anything,

1509
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 7: you know, Ray Borg and Michael Kisa.

1510
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 15: I think Kis is going to be okay, is what

1511
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 15: I'm hearing.

1512
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 7: But for Ray you know, you really hope that these

1513
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 7: guys can earn a living moving forward, you know, right,

1514
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 7: because for a guy like Ray Borg, he's devoted, He's

1515
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 7: a young guy, he's devoted his whole life to martial arts.

1516
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 7: If he can no longer make a living do this,

1517
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 7: his compensation is drastically impacted for the rest.

1518
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 15: Of his life.

1519
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 9: Right, And he's a guy who had a baby a

1520
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 9: couple of weeks ago, and he's a guy who did

1521
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 9: fight for the UFC title at one point in his career.

1522
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 9: Multiple corneal abrasions by the way, for ray Borg and

1523
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 9: I hope you know, I don't intend to make light

1524
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 9: of all of this as I sort of group everything

1525
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 9: that happened during fight week together. But Brian, you've been

1526
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 9: in some crazy, horrifying situations in your life. There were

1527
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 9: fighters and staff members on that bus who thought they

1528
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 9: were part of a terrorist attack.

1529
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, when you see that many people running,

1530
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 7: I'm sure you know.

1531
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 15: And and for those guys too, you think they're mindset.

1532
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 7: You know, when you get off that scale, there's some relief,

1533
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 7: then there's anxiety, then there's excitement. You know, the night

1534
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 7: before your fight is is a little bit of a

1535
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 7: celebration before the battle. You know, you got there, you

1536
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 7: put in a lot of hard work, and it's a

1537
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 7: time where the people closest to you sit down, you

1538
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 7: break bread, and you celebrate all of their support because

1539
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 7: you have to be very selfish during those fight camps,

1540
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 7: and you thank all of them during that meal and

1541
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 7: for that to happen during that time when you're you're

1542
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 7: you're mentally in a different state, you know, you're focusing

1543
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 7: on the contest in twenty four hours, that's a it's

1544
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 7: a hard time to have something like that happen, and

1545
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 7: it's it's a shame because this, this forces this takes

1546
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 7: a step backward for the sport, and the timing is

1547
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 7: awful where I think, you know, I don't know where

1548
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 7: the UFC is or their negotiations in terms of their content,

1549
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 7: but I don't think that boosts the offer price.

1550
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 10: Brian, You're running a big company now, you know, and

1551
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 10: I'm sure you're going to have to make a lot

1552
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 10: of difficult decisions. What is the UFC do here with

1553
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 10: con McGregor, because you're talking about a guy who brings

1554
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 10: in literally hundreds of millions of dollars for the company.

1555
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: If that was Brian stan who smashed the wing shield

1556
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: or Kendy Floyd who smashed the bus, we'd be out

1557
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: of there. We both know that what what do you

1558
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: do with Connor here now?

1559
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 7: At the at the end of the day, and this

1560
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 7: is tough, right at the end of the day, that

1561
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 7: that business exists to generate revenue. Yeah, and and right

1562
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 7: now the number one revenue generator for that company is

1563
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 7: Connor McGregor. So I think that they will probably take

1564
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 7: a look at what are the athletic commissions going to

1565
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 7: do and get a sense of that before they levy

1566
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 7: their own suspension. And knowing that he wanted to fight

1567
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 7: in the fall, they're going to want to start that

1568
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 7: clock as soon as humanly possible. It looks like he

1569
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 7: was only going to fight once this year. I could

1570
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 7: see them. I could see them forcing him to pay

1571
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 7: some serious fines him to have to pay, and he's

1572
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 7: gonna I mean, he's probably gonna be a civil lawsuit

1573
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 7: for the two fighters that were injured, and that's gonna

1574
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 7: be ongoing.

1575
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 15: That's gonna be problematic. There'll probably be a suspension of

1576
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 15: at least.

1577
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 7: Six months, which would still allow him to fight on

1578
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 7: a big car at the end of the year. And

1579
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 7: from there there's got to be some apologies, and I

1580
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 7: think there's got to be some some public service that's

1581
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 7: done as well to really to see if this young

1582
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 7: man has been rehabilitated and if there's underlying other root causes,

1583
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 7: if there's substances evolved involved, then then you know, maybe

1584
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 7: there's rehab or whatever those things are.

1585
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1586
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 15: I don't necessarily think there was a substance involved.

1587
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 7: I think that there's a guy who wanted to make

1588
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 7: a statement and a calculated move to generate some buzz

1589
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 7: around a fight with Haywire. And if he'd have thrown

1590
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 7: that Dolly lower and hit the body of the van,

1591
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,520
Speaker 7: he'd be paying for some dents and he'd be reimbursing

1592
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 7: the driver for that new van instead of what's taking place.

1593
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 7: But I think at the minimum, the UFC has to

1594
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 7: look at that. On the maximum, they're gonna have to

1595
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 7: suspend him for a year, and they've got to ask

1596
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 7: himself with they're with their financial projections, how many you know,

1597
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 7: does that mean they've got to lay I don't know

1598
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 7: what their books say. I don't know if they have

1599
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 7: to lay people off if they can't if they continue

1600
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 7: on the current revenue generation. Dana says the books are fine.

1601
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 7: So if the books are fine and they're good financially,

1602
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 7: then they could they could survive a year long suspension

1603
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 7: to Connor McGregor for terrible athletic conduct.

1604
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 10: You know, there was another superstar in the UFC who

1605
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 10: was getting into a lot of trouble as well.

1606
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: He was young.

1607
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 10: He became a millionaire very quickly, John Jones. Is this

1608
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 10: as bad as the stuff that John Jones has done?

1609
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: You think?

1610
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 15: You know when when you know, no, it's not, it's bad,

1611
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 15: don't get me wrong.

1612
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 7: But you know when when you hit, when you hit

1613
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 7: people with your vehicle and you run from the scene, that's.

1614
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 15: Bad because because you have no idea how much how

1615
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 15: much you hurt them.

1616
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 7: I'm not saying what Connor did. It's very close, right,

1617
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 7: He got very lucky. He could have he could have

1618
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 7: caused and he may have caused me to have permanent

1619
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 7: eye damage, but that glass could have done quite a

1620
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 7: bit worse.

1621
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 15: And so he got lucky. John got lucky.

1622
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 7: And again I think it's it's two young men who,

1623
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 7: at one point or another, when I met them when

1624
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 7: they were young, we're good people. I left with good

1625
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 7: opinions of them. And now it's a crossroads. They've got

1626
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 7: a choice to make. John, I think, is making his choices.

1627
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 7: But Connor Connor sits that crossroads right now. And look,

1628
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 7: we've seen this happen with so many athletes over the years,

1629
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 7: right when.

1630
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 15: They make it so fast, they just can't deal with

1631
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 15: the fame.

1632
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 7: And Dan has seen it a million times, and I

1633
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 7: think that, you know, if anything, when you get stars

1634
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 7: like this, what can the UFC do to protect their investment?

1635
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 7: You know, I think that other professional sports have different outlets.

1636
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 7: You know, professional NFL teams have all kinds of things

1637
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 7: that maybe aren't publicly known that they do to keep

1638
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 7: an eye on their stars who exhibit those kinds of

1639
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 7: behaviors that may just you know, go rogue at times

1640
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 7: and do crazy things.

1641
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 15: So that may be something where the UFC has to

1642
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 15: take a look at that.

1643
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 9: Brian stan willis here on the Anakin Florian podcast, and

1644
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 9: I do want to segue to the fights Bride, but

1645
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 9: I just want to say, in closing on Connor McGregor's

1646
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 9: legal picture, I was going to book an attorney today,

1647
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 9: but I honestly didn't want to bog down the entire show.

1648
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 9: But so for Rayborg, right, like Joey Koco Diaz said,

1649
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 9: ray Borg's probably gonna have three attorneys showing up at

1650
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 9: his hotel room door in Brooklyn, New York to potentially

1651
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 9: try to maximize this thing, right, Like this is a

1652
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 9: guy who has fought for the world title. If he

1653
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 9: can't fight again or resume that career, I mean, I mean,

1654
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 9: are you talking about ray Borg potentially you know, turning

1655
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 9: this into like it's a hard question, but like a

1656
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 9: career ending thing to try to make five or six

1657
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,879
Speaker 9: million bucks. I mean, this is an Albuquerque, New Mexico

1658
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 9: born fighters fighter who you know wants to fight again.

1659
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 15: Yeah, he absolutely wants to fight again.

1660
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 7: But at the same time, now he's got a child,

1661
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 7: and in that means you know, there's there's another adult,

1662
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 7: his partner in life that's involved. And if a doctor

1663
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 7: looks and tells him that if you continue to fight,

1664
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 7: you can lose your eyesight. Right, one of his coaches,

1665
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 7: Mike Winkle John lost his eyesight from getting kicked in

1666
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 7: the eye. And so ray Borg is going to want

1667
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 7: to see his child grow up. His family is going

1668
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 7: to be more important. When you have a child, it

1669
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 7: changes you. And Kenny can attest to this. Now, you know,

1670
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 7: fighting is easier when you don't have a family to

1671
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 7: worry about, and you could just be primal and you

1672
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 7: could just be a fighter.

1673
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 15: Things have changed for Rayborg. So I'm not sure what

1674
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 15: decision he's going to make.

1675
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 7: You know, the ray Borg that I knew is the

1676
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 7: type of guy who's probably gonna want to fight through anything.

1677
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 15: But at the same time, now, if this.

1678
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 7: Is going to affect him, he can't see clearly, he

1679
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 7: runs risk of losing eyesight long term. You know, then

1680
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 7: he's got he's got a real case against Connor McGregor.

1681
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 7: And in that kind of money, if it's five or

1682
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 7: six million dollars, that's not all that much to Connor

1683
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 7: right now, it's not and it's but it is a

1684
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 7: tough lesson for him to learn to control himself and

1685
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 7: not to take his promotional capabilities and in.

1686
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 15: Some of his some of his thoughts out of control.

1687
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 10: And guys, just to confirm me, is it the shards

1688
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 10: of glass that are that were in his eye? Was

1689
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 10: that that was the problem and they're not sure if

1690
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 10: they can remove it? Is that what's going on?

1691
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 9: Well, the medical reports said that foreign bodies or foreign

1692
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 9: objects were removed from his eye, So you know, this

1693
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 9: is something that people have recovered from. I don't know

1694
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 9: the extent to which they've gone back to compete at

1695
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 9: a high level in pro sports, but certainly Rayborg's new

1696
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 9: reality is not not what he's looking for potentially, Hey, Brian,

1697
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 9: just want to get your thoughts quickly and then we'll

1698
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 9: let you get back.

1699
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: To the to the day gig.

1700
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 9: This this this triumvirate now of hub Evenor Mango, Medov,

1701
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 9: Connor McGregor, and Tony Ferguson. Obviously, Connor's a little bit

1702
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,919
Speaker 9: of a wild card. Tony is going under knee surgery

1703
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 9: as we speak right now. But given what cub Ebner

1704
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 9: Mago Medov did this weekend, do you still see him

1705
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 9: as the best fighter of those three, the betting favorite

1706
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 9: against those other two, and the most dominant force in

1707
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 9: the lightweight division, if not the entire game.

1708
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 12: I you know, I can't.

1709
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 7: I can't say all of those accolades with conviction, right

1710
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 7: I still have Tony Ferguson is is the athlete in

1711
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 7: that mix that I still feel like, who if there's

1712
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 7: anybody who can deal with the top pressure and ground

1713
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 7: control of Kabibe, Normaga Metov, it's Tony Ferguson. He is

1714
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 7: one of those guys who is just so long and

1715
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 7: so smooth off his back that he's really hard to control.

1716
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 7: And he's also a very good wrestler and so you know,

1717
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 7: that is still a fight where I think both guys

1718
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 7: can win. And I can't claim that Kabeb is the

1719
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 7: most dominant force in that triumvirate until I see him

1720
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Speaker 7: beat Tony Ferguson, which just seems to be a fight

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 7: that has cursed for us to ever see. That being said,

1722
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I see Kabib as being the betting favorite

1723
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 7: against Con McGregor for sure. I mean, Kabeb is phenomenon

1724
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 7: and what he can do and how dominant he can

1725
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 7: be is absolutely incredible. I would certainly favor him slightly

1726
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 7: in a fight against Tony Ferguson, but you know who knows.

1727
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 7: I mean that depends on the day. I could go

1728
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 7: watch some tape of Tony Ferguson, in my opinion, could

1729
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 7: be the opposite.

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01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 9: All right, last thing, I lied because we're only fourteen

1731
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 9: minutes in and I got you for fifteen Did you

1732
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 9: see the co headliner between Joanna You and j Chick

1733
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 9: and Roseanama Unis and if so, any thoughts on that one?

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 7: You know, I just man, it is crazy to think

1736
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 7: how young Rose Noma Unis is in this game. She

1737
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 7: was ordained a star off The Ultimate Fighter and she

1738
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 7: had two or three fights. I think at the time

1739
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 7: she's only going to get better. She is a very

1740
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 7: smooth athlete, and like all stars in this sport, she

1741
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,879
Speaker 7: has this great ability to compete when the lights are brightest.

1742
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 7: She's I mean stepping up and fighting an immediate rematch

1743
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 7: with somebody as good as Joanna.

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01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 15: That's still that is a.

1745
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 7: Very challenging thing to overcome mentally. Fighters hate rematches when

1746
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 7: you're the one who won the first fight, because you

1747
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 7: have very little to gain. She went into a situation

1748
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 7: where she was never going to outperform what she did

1749
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 7: last time to this woman, and she knew that Na

1750
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 7: was going to come back even hunger and even better shape,

1751
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 7: with a better game plan, more modest, not over aggressive,

1752
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 7: not like she not overconfident. That is a very tough

1753
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 7: thing to overcome mentally and then go out there and

1754
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 7: perform the way Rose did, especially in the first the first.

1755
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 15: Couple of rounds. I mean so smooth.

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 7: I think that this is a very talented fighter who

1757
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 7: also has the mental capacity to be something. Really she

1758
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 7: is already something special, but really get to those those

1759
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 7: great be the next great female star of the sport,

1760
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 7: where where we've had some there is a legitimate I

1761
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 7: had so many friends calling me and telling me, I

1762
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 7: never thought that I'd be buying a pay per view

1763
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 7: because solely because of a woman's fight. And I had

1764
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 7: five different people call me this weekend saying they were

1765
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 7: buying this pay per view despite all the cancelation everything else,

1766
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 7: because of that fight.

1767
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 15: And I thought that was all because those two ladies

1768
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 15: deserved it.

1769
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 7: And I think that the UFC should should, as they've been,

1770
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 7: continue to invest heavily in making rosa star. If I'm

1771
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 7: w m E, I'm getting her in movies, I'm getting

1772
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 7: her on every show I can.

1773
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 15: I mean, I'm gonna.

1774
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna work with her as much as we can,

1775
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 7: to continue to break to get a phenomenal personality, get

1776
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 7: her everywhere you can.

1777
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: That that fight made the pay per view worth it,

1778
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: no doubt.

1779
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, and spoken like a father of three daughters, the

1780
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 9: eldest of which Alex can kick the fuck out of

1781
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 9: a pad.

1782
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: Right. See, I see you pushing the women's agenda. That's

1783
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: a good thing.

1784
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 15: She smashed me in the knee just last night.

1785
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: And see there you go.

1786
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 9: See all right, Well, we appreciate the extended time today,

1788
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 9: so do you guys allow beards there. I mean, if

1789
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 9: I got to wear the collared shirt, can I at

1790
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 9: least have some scruff? I mean, how strict?

1791
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 15: Are quite a few beards here, don't worry about that.

1792
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: How about how about how about piercings?

1793
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we have those.

1794
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: Tattoos? Okay, Brian, what was that two o nine tattoos? Okay?

1795
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, you can.

1796
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 3: It's so small a time.

1797
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 9: All right, man, you know, we miss your buddy, miss

1798
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 9: seeing you on the road and all that good stuff.

1799
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 9: But it's nice to have this monthly checking. We'll let

1800
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 9: you get back to it.

1801
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 15: Man, Thank you, mischief fellas have a great one.

1802
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 9: Thanks Jan all right there, he is the greatest living

1803
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 9: American Brian Stan And some interesting thoughts there on the

1804
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 9: rematch between Rose and Yohanna. And I know you got

1805
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 9: a little short changed in terms of your ability to

1806
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 9: analyze that fight because we've been bouncing around. But right,

1807
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 9: I mean, Rose knew she was gonna have to beat

1808
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 9: her twice, but I think Joanna was thinking maybe Rose

1809
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 9: would have another fight first. To have to fight her

1810
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 9: back to back the way she just did is no

1811
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 9: easy task, and I thought Rose just emerged beautifully this weekend,

1812
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 9: so not at all.

1813
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 10: Man And again, you can prepare for a fight, you

1814
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 10: can get all the technical aspects ready, but you gotta

1815
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 10: come in there one hundred percent mentally prepared. Rose Namunus

1816
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 10: used to get criticized for maybe not being the most

1817
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 10: mentally strong fighter out there.

1818
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: Now I think she is probably one of the strongest.

1819
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: And putting bread on Pat Barry table.

1820
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 9: I mean, who would have thought that s thug Rosanavajuniz

1821
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 9: would make some life changing money for hyper Die And

1822
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 9: Pat has put his career on hold, right, he does

1823
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 9: have visions of getting back into MMA, and he has

1824
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 9: put all his time and energy into Rows and certainly.

1825
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: Has benefited from that.

1826
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 9: And they just have a great little thing going there,

1827
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 9: and of course, justin GATS, you will try to keep

1828
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 9: it going for Trevor Whitman and company coming up this weekend.

1829
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 9: Our final thought on two twenty three flow Hanato Moikano

1830
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 9: huge win over Calvin Cator. I thought Carolinikobo Keevitch looked

1831
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 9: awesome against Felice Herrig.

1832
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: You probably didn't see that fight.

1833
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 9: I just wanted to get a thought on Olivier Obama

1834
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 9: Mercia if I could, because he knocked out Evan Dunham

1835
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 9: in fifty three seconds. This is a guy who has

1836
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 9: worked so hard on his striking and his defense. I

1837
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 9: think he's so strong for one hundred and fifty five pounds.

1838
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 9: I think he's an excellent grappler, and even though he

1839
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 9: might be a BJJ brown and not black belt Kenny,

1840
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 9: I favor him over a lot of guys as a

1841
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 9: grappler in this division.

1842
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 1: He's your former teammate.

1843
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 9: He's for my money with Jorge Saint Pierre sort of

1844
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 9: on the sidelines unless there's a Canadian I'm not thinking about.

1845
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 9: I think this guy is as close to the top

1846
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 9: as any Canadian fighter right now. What can you tell

1847
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 9: us about Oam and potentially how far he could take this.

1848
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 10: I didn't see the fight, but Oam's a guy who's

1849
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 10: been working very hard. He's been working behind the scenes

1850
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 10: for a very long time when no one knew who

1851
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 10: he was, so he's been putting in the work as

1852
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 10: a martial artist, coming in being on the Canadian national

1853
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 10: judo team.

1854
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: Again, He's an excellent athlete. He works very hard.

1855
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 10: You not got a guy like Evin Dunham who is

1856
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 10: truly one of the toughest veterans out there in the

1857
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 10: toughest division in the UFC.

1858
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: I think that's as impressive as it gets.

1859
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 10: Getting a quick knockout and being known as a grappler,

1860
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 10: I think is just an amazing thing for MERCID.

1861
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he's going to go very far. All Right,

1862
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1863
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 9: You know, we need some Canadian blood and elite Canadian fighters.

1864
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 9: I know a lot of stock was put a niche

1865
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 9: to Serakhu. Navii's had a setback or two, but Oham's

1866
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 9: in the wrong division. But I think he's going to

1867
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 9: be in the top fifteen of it before we close

1868
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 9: the book on twenty eighteen. All right, before we go

1869
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 9: a little bit of a somber note, but we just

1870
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 9: wanted to dedicate today's show to the memories of the

1871
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 9: fifteen lives lost in the tragic bus accident last Friday

1872
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 9: involving the humbold Broncos team they play in the Saskatchewan

1873
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 9: Junior Hockey League. And this really brought tears to my

1874
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 9: eyes when I read about it. I think we get

1875
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 9: so caught up in our MMA bubble and think that

1876
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 9: our world is ending because Connor threw a dolly at

1877
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 9: a bus or because Tony Ferguson pulled out of a

1878
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 9: fight and we were working through all of these production

1879
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 9: changes to this largely meaningless pay per view when news

1880
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 9: of this terrible accident broke. So just for these families,

1881
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 9: this community, you know, life as they know it is

1882
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 9: never going to be the same. And we have a

1883
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 9: lot of amazing UFC fans in Canada, Canadians who listened

1884
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 9: to this show and just wanted to stay here and

1885
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 9: closing can flow me. We're thinking about those people. We

1886
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 9: were this weekend sort of amidst our own chaos and

1887
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 9: just wanted to acknowledge them on the way out today.

1888
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 9: All right, Ken flow from here, may rock BJJ today

1889
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 9: or what's what's the rest of the day hold for you?

1890
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 11: Kid?

1891
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: A bunch of stuff with my daughter. I gotta go

1892
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: over to Fox and do some work. So yeah, let

1893
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: me go is basically what you're saying. The fuck out

1894
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: of here.

1895
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 9: Thank you to our guest, Ray Longo, Brian Stan, Kyle Bockniak,

1896
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 9: Michael McLaughlin on the Picks. I will be at Arizona

1897
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 9: this weekend Big Fox for UFC Fight Night, Pourier versus Gaechee.

1898
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 9: With that this show has been a ben with sort

1899
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 9: production thanks to our entire Fox Sports team for Ken Flum,

1900
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 9: John Anak, have a great week.

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