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Speaker 1: Welcome to lakeig Is Live. It is Sunday night in May,

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Speaker 1: first brand new month, but some of the same issues

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Speaker 1: around our troubled sport. We are going to issue a nice, healthy.

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Speaker 2: Dose of medicine for a troubled college football world. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: We are jam packed high at top a congested downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to me. It may seem bad,

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Speaker 1: not the traffic. The traffic's just horrendous college football right now.

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Speaker 1: It may seem like things are bad now. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you they aren't. I'm just gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. I have some things to say

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Speaker 1: to you tonight. I want to put your mind at ease,

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Speaker 1: but also recognize we've still got some problems. College football

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Speaker 1: is not gonna end tomorrow, but we have some things

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Speaker 2: Buckle m. This will not be a show for the

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Speaker 2: fan of heart.

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Speaker 1: I have no clue how long we're going to go,

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Speaker 1: but we have a whole lot going on in this

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Speaker 1: first day of May. We've got a new Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: out there. Did you know that it's not the guy

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Speaker 1: in Athens anymore? In fact, he died figured I want

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Speaker 1: to stress figuratively, Old Kirby's out of here.

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Speaker 2: We got new Kirby.

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Speaker 1: And new Kirby is a lot more boring to talk

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Speaker 1: about because he just wins all the time. But don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I got a place for all of you. With all

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Speaker 1: those old labels you used to put on his forehead,

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Speaker 1: I got a new place for you to put him.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. Twenty twenty two Boldness, Got a

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Speaker 1: Lot of It? Part four Nikya Jesse, Part four tonight.

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Speaker 1: All that plus a very dare I say, Saucy Q

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Speaker 1: and a coming up. They're watching us in Travelers Rest,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. They're tuned in Aurora, Missouri, Chandler, Oklahoma, Newcastle, England.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Oklahoma, I'm flying their first thing in the morning.

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Speaker 1: We have got what we expect to be a pretty

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Speaker 1: major torny Eado outbreak in northern Oklahoma and southern Kansas tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So who knows, may show up in Norman, may show

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Speaker 1: up in Wichitag Pawnee, Oklahoma, not in Indiana. It's actually

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Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. Who knows where we're going tomorrow? But tonight,

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Speaker 1: I know where we're going, and we got to dive

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Speaker 1: deep on several things that are pressing in nature. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, strap In, it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world, but we do have some things to tend

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Speaker 1: to here. You may have thought I was going to

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Speaker 1: lead the show with Nil, but I'm not doing that

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Speaker 1: because everyone else is doing that. And also I got

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Speaker 1: in like ten minutes. I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about something else right in front of your face. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Colin, here's your endpoint. Let's see today's May first,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, as we're on live.

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Speaker 2: At what a year it's already been. Though, did you

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Speaker 2: know that we've.

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Speaker 1: Had a college football coach disappear? Quite literally, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about the FCS nature either.

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Speaker 2: A Major D one SEC head.

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Speaker 1: Football coach has just up and disappeared. And you may

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Speaker 1: be thinking to yourself, I know it's been a busy

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Speaker 2: How did the guy just disappear?

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Speaker 1: Well, his name was Kirby Smart and he was the

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Speaker 1: head coach at Georgia. And I'm really not playing games

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, how old are you. You don't

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Speaker 1: to speak for myself personally. I'm old enough to remember

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Speaker 1: the Kirby Smart that couldn't develop talent. But then I

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Speaker 1: just watched the NFL where they set all kinds of records.

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember the Kirby that could get

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Speaker 1: you maybe in the latter portion of the draft, but he's.

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Speaker 2: Not going to maximize your talent.

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Speaker 1: And then I watched him put like five guys not

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when Kirby couldn't beat Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: And I'm certainly old enough to remember when Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: couldn't win the big one. And I look back in

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Speaker 1: January Indianapolis, Indiana, thirty three to eighteen final, the opponent

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Speaker 1: old Kirby died. I don't know how else to put

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Speaker 1: it to you, but the labels live on. And if

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Speaker 1: new place to put the labels.

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Speaker 2: So where do we find.

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Speaker 1: This individual, this individual that is accumulating a lot of

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Speaker 2: Where are we finding this guy?

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Speaker 1: We're finding him in College Station, Texas. Jimbo Fisher is

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Speaker 1: your new Kirby Smart And this is coming by way

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Speaker 2: I think that is reasonable.

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Speaker 1: But then again, I also thought it was reasonable with Kirby.

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Speaker 2: Sees that.

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Speaker 1: But what does he not have, Well, he didn't have

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a national championship in college station at least,

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Speaker 1: I doesn't have a litany first round draft pick. And

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna hear it. I'm telling you, even though

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Speaker 1: you may think it's irrational or maybe you're gonna be participating,

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Speaker 1: that guy can't win more than eight games. Who cares

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Speaker 1: about all these five star recruits. He can't send a

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Speaker 1: He can't develop at the quarterback position. Look at those

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Speaker 1: anything to write home about. He certainly can't win the

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Speaker 1: big win, win a national championship. Now, you could, in

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Speaker 1: all fairness, walk up to that crew, get kind of

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Speaker 1: You guys know that, right doesn't matter to the label crowd.

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Speaker 1: Florida State really doesn't matter. It was just a byproduct

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Speaker 1: here is it's ridiculous. It always was ridiculous with Kirby Smart.

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart didn't become a great coach three or four

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Speaker 1: months ago. He was a great coach long before that.

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Speaker 1: Nothing changed about him. We've gone over this many times

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Speaker 1: doing it again. Kirby Smart already possessed capability in January

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Speaker 1: last year, and the year before and the year before that.

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Speaker 1: They were in overtime of a title game in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Jimbo Fisher now that

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Speaker 1: was never on that train of well, yeah, Kirby's good butt,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say, Colin, you can cut this part out.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say you won't hear foolishness on this show.

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Speaker 1: I just said it probably won't pertain to Jimbo Fish

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Speaker 1: The other night, Friday Night, Producer Jesse and I we

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Speaker 1: The young team is five hundred on the season, and

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm gonna say this thanks in large

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Speaker 1: part to the defensive heroics of Producer Jesse the other night.

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Speaker 1: That's the good news. The bad news is Jesse looked

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Speaker 1: which is also good news. Everything Jesse needs from this

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Speaker 1: a close play at the plate. Jesse competitor slides no

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Speaker 1: it going on, a whole lot of it going on.

438
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Speaker 1: It's a problem. It's a big problem. Just be careful

439
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Speaker 1: making one guy the devil, because you got a whole

440
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff happening out there, a whole lot.

441
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Speaker 2: Of it that you would really, really not like to

442
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Speaker 2: be privy to.

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Speaker 1: But since we do acknowledge most of us at least

444
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Speaker 1: that we do have an issue, how we're going to

445
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Speaker 1: solve this. It's not going to be easy. There's not

446
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Speaker 1: one tweet. It doesn't fit in a certain amount of characters.

447
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 1: But there are going to have to be a lot

448
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Speaker 1: of characters who walk in the room and step up

449
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Speaker 1: and maybe even make themselves unpopular for a time. We'll

450
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Speaker 1: do our small part here, but all we can really

451
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Speaker 1: do is talk. I don't have the power, at least yet,

452
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Speaker 1: I don't have the power to actually enforce change in

453
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Speaker 1: this sport. But college football's made a lot of people

454
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Speaker 1: rich over the years, hasn't it. Now The key pushback

455
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 1: in the entire NIL front has been yet it's made

456
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Speaker 1: a lot of people rich. Only folks that didn't make

457
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Speaker 1: money off of it were the players.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

459
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Speaker 1: I've heard you for quite a while on that front.

460
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Speaker 1: You've never heard me disagree with that. But as we

461
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Speaker 1: watch some of these folks take up the righteous cause

462
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Speaker 1: of nil and players' rights as they see it, I

463
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Speaker 1: view it through a little bit different spectrum.

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Speaker 2: You need to be careful because, yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of money generated by this sport

466
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Speaker 1: in the past. Don't just assume it always continues. Now,

467
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Speaker 1: what do I mean by that football is a constant

468
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Speaker 1: in our society? Well, it has been in your lifetime,

469
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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, yet certainly has been. But you need

470
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Speaker 1: to understand something. What gives you value as a star

471
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Speaker 1: quarterback or as a head coach. I'm talking not just

472
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Speaker 1: to players, talking to everyone who has benefited. And you're

473
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Speaker 1: looking at a guy right now who is financially benefited

474
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Speaker 1: from college football being what it is. You need to

475
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Speaker 1: be very careful because it wasn't your hard work and

476
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Speaker 1: talent that made you all that money. It was massive

477
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Speaker 1: national interest in what it is. If you're a player

478
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Speaker 1: and coach you happen to do for a living or

479
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Speaker 1: the game you happen to play for a living, talent

480
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Speaker 1: and hard work were what you got, it wouldn't what

481
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Speaker 1: got you there at all. If it was, the tennis

482
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Speaker 1: player on campus would make the same amount you do,

483
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Speaker 1: the golf team would make the same amount you do.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some news now that may

485
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Speaker 1: be breaking to some. There are a lot of athletes

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Speaker 1: that don't wear a helmet on college campuses, that wake

487
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Speaker 1: up at really really early hours too, and put in

488
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Speaker 1: long days too, and they still got to hit the

489
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Speaker 1: books at night. And they got cuts and bruises, and

490
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Speaker 1: they got family issues and mental health issues. They got

491
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Speaker 1: all of it too. They work really hard and no

492
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Speaker 1: one knows about it why. It's not that they're any less.

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Speaker 1: It's just that, for whatever reason, our society has decided

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Speaker 1: football is the most entertaining product. That's what we'll gather

495
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Speaker 1: around a television by the millions and in venues by

496
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Speaker 1: the thousands to watch. Therefore, you have value as a

497
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Speaker 1: college football player and as a college football coach. But

498
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Speaker 1: never forget that that's not a constant, that's a variable.

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Speaker 1: I put out a poll about an hour' go on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I just asked, how do you feel about college football

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Speaker 1: right now? Direction of college football?

502
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Speaker 2: You're happy? Unhappy?

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Speaker 1: It was three to one, I think unhappy to happy.

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Speaker 1: Now you may say that's not scientific. I guarantee you

505
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Speaker 1: there are four more people unhappy with the direction of

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Speaker 1: the sport right now than are happy. That doesn't mean

507
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Speaker 1: there can't be change, that doesn't mean that mood can't

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Speaker 1: be altered.

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Speaker 2: But right now you have got a.

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Speaker 1: Mass consensus from the folks that are critical to maintaining

511
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Speaker 1: your value as a sport collectively much less just individual

512
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Speaker 1: players and coaches that are telling you we don't like it.

513
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Speaker 1: So you can need to look at them and you

514
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Speaker 1: can laugh. You can say, deal with it tough, this

515
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Speaker 1: is just the way it is, and expect that they

516
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Speaker 1: can't say anything in return, or you can understand those

517
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Speaker 1: people have options. They've never had more options actually in

518
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Speaker 1: terms of entertainment than they do right now. NASCAR learness

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Speaker 1: less and the hardest way imaginable Pro wrestling learness Lesson

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Speaker 1: the hardest way imaginable. College football is not immune to

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Speaker 1: learning the same lesson. People love you. I love college football.

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Speaker 1: The thousands of people who watch this show, the millions

523
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Speaker 1: that watch those games per week, they love college football.

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Speaker 1: Not all of them need it. They may, in a

525
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Speaker 1: roundabout way, tell you they do. You are going to

526
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Speaker 1: either adjust the current direction of the sport or you're

527
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Speaker 1: going to find out the hard way. Like others before you,

528
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Speaker 1: that constant that we assumed was actually a variable, And

529
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, those numbers look to be dwindling

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Speaker 1: just a little bit, and then the next year a

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Speaker 1: little bit further, and then the next year a little

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Speaker 1: bit further.

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Speaker 2: After that, here is the problem. By then it's too late.

534
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Speaker 2: You lose them. They don't come back. They don't come back.

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Speaker 1: You can do all kinds of data and analysis you

536
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Speaker 1: want to on it, they don't come back in modern media.

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Speaker 1: You lose them. You lost them for good. So let

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Speaker 1: me give you a final thought. And I just want

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Speaker 1: you to think on this one, because right now there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening in college football that if

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Speaker 1: you would have even said it three years ago, would

542
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Speaker 1: have sounded it's crazy. And what that leads someone like

543
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Speaker 1: me to think about, is in the future, what's going

544
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Speaker 1: to be happening three years from now that today sounds crazy?

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Speaker 2: So one of you, Sean sent.

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Speaker 1: Me this tweet today and I don't really have an

547
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Speaker 1: answer for you, but you're going to think it's crazy initially.

548
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Speaker 1: I just want you to think on it for a second.

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Speaker 1: Sean said, with power conferences being tied to certain TV networks,

550
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Speaker 1: is there a future where they lose their image of

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Speaker 1: impartiality and start giving NIL deals to boost their own teams?

552
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Speaker 1: Ie ESPN starts signing deals for SEC players now that

553
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Speaker 1: they have the SEC rights starting in twenty twenty four.

554
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Speaker 1: Now that sounds crazy, right, Well, okay, it sure is.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely is crazy. But we're currently in a no

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Speaker 1: parameter society of nil. There are no guidelines. That's what

557
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Speaker 1: Wild Wild West means. It wasn't just a mediocre movie

558
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Speaker 1: in the nineties. It is the state of this sport

559
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Speaker 1: right now. And so as more money arrives at the table,

560
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Speaker 1: is that the most ludicrous thing given what has already

561
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Speaker 1: long since happened with shoe companies and college and AAU basketball,

562
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Speaker 1: Is it the craziest thing to think that with that

563
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Speaker 1: amount of money and that much vested interest in maximizing viewership.

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Speaker 1: The powers that be at those particular networks might not

565
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Speaker 1: look and say, what can we do to make sure

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Speaker 1: this product remains as pristine as possible and as high

567
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Speaker 1: level as possible. This does not have to look like

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Speaker 1: some TV executive showing up at a high school and

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Speaker 1: cutting a kid a check. It could be executed in

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Speaker 1: many different ways. In Shawn's example, here's how I would

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Speaker 1: envision that actually happening. I would envision networks and conferences

572
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Speaker 1: collectively understanding that, yeah, there's a lot of money on

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Speaker 1: this table right now, and we do have a vested

574
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Speaker 1: interest in this conference attracting the best talent in the country.

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Speaker 2: And maintaining that.

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Speaker 1: So what if you get into a situation where you

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Speaker 1: have conferences via back channel, or whether you have conferences

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Speaker 1: and television networks agreeing on a revenue distribution model that

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Speaker 1: because you make more money than the other, conferences can

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Speaker 1: afford to pay out on average to players more than

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Speaker 1: players and other conferences.

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Speaker 2: Look, you can neither do one of two things.

583
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Speaker 1: You can need to say, hey, that's the way it works,

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Speaker 1: that's a free market, or you can say this is

585
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Speaker 1: college football. It's not your nine to five job. This

586
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Speaker 1: has always been a natural preserve of sorts within the

587
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Speaker 1: realm of sports. If we were to leave this to

588
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Speaker 1: free market principles, or if we were to have done

589
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Speaker 1: that a long time ago, the sport would have eaten

590
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Speaker 1: itself a long time ago. So what kind of checks

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Speaker 1: and balances do you need in the sport to maintain

592
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Speaker 1: the sport itself? Because there are a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: carrying that flag right now that are waiving it in

594
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Speaker 1: the name of nil or waving it in the name

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Speaker 1: of players' rights. And these are concepts in and of themselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to at all. If you watch the show,

597
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Speaker 1: you know that. But I also know this. None of

598
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Speaker 1: you are worth anything. No one's watching. That's where I'll

599
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: lead that. So you have to have some reasonable minds here.

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Speaker 1: Then understand just because we're technically capable of doing this

601
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Speaker 1: or that doesn't mean it's what's in the best interest

602
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Speaker 1: of this sport, which has to remain at the forefront.

603
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, if you don't

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Speaker 1: have the sport as you've known it, you don't have

605
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Speaker 1: any value. Who's going to realize that before it's too late.

606
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Speaker 1: Hopefully several people who are equipped to actually enact change.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about actual football here. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you being tuned in.

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Speaker 2: Let me send that.

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Speaker 1: In the live chat, we had a question about quarterback battles.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to dive into this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback battles all across the country. We just came out

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Speaker 1: of spring practice, had spring games, and we were talking

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Speaker 1: you and I all throughout spring about some of these

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Speaker 1: quarterback battles going on.

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Speaker 2: Across the country.

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Speaker 1: And so what I wanted to do is take a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes here and just recap where we're at

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Speaker 1: right now, because a lot of these quarterback battles are

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Speaker 1: still ongoing. They are legitimate, authentic in nature, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to play a large role in some of these

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Speaker 1: conference races made even playoff races.

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Speaker 2: So let's start at LSU.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go around the whole country here, Miles Brennan,

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, Garrett nuss Meyer. Going into spring practice, Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelly's first in Baton Rouge. It was thought, I would say,

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Speaker 1: by a mild consensus of people that Jaden Daniels the

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Speaker 1: Arizona State transfer was the leader in the clubhouse. We

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily believe that on this show, but I think

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Speaker 1: most people believe that coming out of spring. I don't

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Speaker 1: think people believe that down there, he's just another player

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Speaker 1: in a crowded quarterback room. He's got probably as good

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Speaker 1: a shot as Miles Brennan or Garrett Nusmeyer. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you my take on this, and it's just reiterating,

635
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Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on it.

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Speaker 1: If they played a football game tomorrow, I think Miles

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Speaker 1: Brennan would be your starter. They don't, and so there's

638
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Speaker 1: still a summer, and then there's still fall. Jaden Daniels

639
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: could make a move. But the guy at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of your screen if you're watching on YouTube, Garrett Nusmeyer.

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Speaker 1: That's the guy that if I had to circle one

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Speaker 1: from now until the fall, that is poised to make

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Speaker 1: the biggest move.

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Speaker 2: It's Garrett nus Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't stun me at all, even if you'd start the

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Speaker 1: season opener if he's not your starter by let's say

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Speaker 1: the first week in October.

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Speaker 2: So our cooper.

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Speaker 1: Protegna the other day put An over under of two

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Speaker 1: and a half total starting quarterbacks for LSU this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know where I land on that. I

652
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: just think Garrett Nusmeyer is going to be one of them.

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Speaker 1: They open with Florida State. That's a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: That's that game every year that makes us change the

655
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Speaker 1: start time of late kick for the first Sunday of

656
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Speaker 1: the season. So then they got Southern Mississippi State New Mexico.

657
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: So that game at Auburn, that's a good barometer there.

658
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: Who's starting at.

659
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Quarterback by the first Saturday in October for LSU. Let's

660
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: head up the road to Clemson. This one has a

661
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of folks fascinated nationally. Djuy Angolalay woefully underdelivered last year,

662
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: at least relative to the national expectation on him. Okay,

663
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: well he's back this year, clearly true sophomore. And you

664
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: got Kay Klubnick, a true freshman in his own right

665
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: now with five stars next to his name. For daboswin

666
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: is part in this the head coach Derek Clemson. For

667
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: all three of you unfamiliar, he was pretty emphatic during

668
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: the spring in saying djuy DJ's our quarterback. He's given

669
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: us no reason not to assume that he's our starting quarterback.

670
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: And then you watch the spring game, granted is just

671
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: a spring game, but then you listen to some intel

672
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: out of Clemson, and what you saw in the spring

673
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: game kind of echoes what you get intel wise out

674
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: of Clemson, and that is, hey, DJ lost some weight.

675
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Good for him. I think he was like two sixty

676
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: last year, wants to ultimately play in the two thirty

677
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: to two thirty five range.

678
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: Is that going to drastically improve his accuracy?

679
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Because if it's not, I don't care if he plays

680
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: at one sixty, two sixty or five sixty. He's got

681
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: to be more accurate, got to be more decisive. And

682
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: if he's not, you got a guy who probably has

683
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: the opposite problem, probably a little too skinny right now

684
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: in Kay club Nick. But let's see what he can

685
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: do over the summer. Let's see what he can do

686
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: in the fall. Because you and I we watched this

687
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: last year and we went through preview magazine season and

688
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: we saw DJ luiangol Ley's face on top of everything,

689
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: and we saw name atop even some Heisman lists as

690
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: a true freshman. Well, obviously that never came to fruition.

691
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: But we're about to go through.

692
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: The same thing.

693
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Maybe not quite to that degree, but we're about to

694
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: go through a four month stretch where you don't have

695
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: any football happening, You don't even have practices happening, and

696
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: so all folks have time to do is sit around

697
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: and talk. So folks are gonna work themselves up into

698
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: a lather of defending one position or the other. The

699
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: first half of their game against Georgia Tech in Week

700
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: one will be worth infinitely more than the next four

701
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: months will.

702
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: So try not to change your opinion a whole lot.

703
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: It's what I'm saying.

704
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: If you've already, if you're already on the fence about this,

705
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: you ought to be on the fence by week one,

706
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: absent some revelatory press conference from Daboswiney in mid August

707
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: where he says, uh, he's seen the light and so.

708
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: He's our guy.

709
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Now forget it, kay, we're gonna redshirt you absent that happening.

710
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: Just just be loose, just stay.

711
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: Nimble on this thing, because what if they go into

712
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: the half and it's ten to three Georgia Tech, they're

713
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: in Atlanta on what is that a Monday night to

714
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: start the season, and DJ started the game. I mean,

715
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: how quickly will that drum beat grow to find out

716
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: what that true freshman Kay club Nick has. I don't

717
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: think there's any leader in this clubhouse nearly to the

718
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: degree even that the head coach of Clemson claims there is.

719
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: So rarely do I disagree with a coach on his

720
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: own personnel. I just think it's a little murkier than that.

721
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Haines King's in this thing. He

722
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: was injured last year, he's back now. Also, Max Johnson,

723
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: the LSU transfer, the Southpaw, He's in this thing now.

724
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Connor Wiegman is the true freshman who looked really good

725
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: in spring, and he is. It wasn't an illusion. He

726
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: is really good. I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm

727
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: not spending a lot of time talking about him on

728
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: this particular show this evening because I do not think

729
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: ultimately he will factor into the race for who starts

730
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: the season at quarterback. That's what we're talking about, who

731
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: starts the season at quarterback. Ultimately he's gonna be the

732
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: guy there. But right now I think boil down to

733
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: a Haines King, Max Johnson race. Now as it pertains

734
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: to those two names, your guess is as good as mine.

735
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: I had a feel going into the spring. I thought

736
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Haines King was probably going to establish himself. He's still

737
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: got time. He did not do that in the spring

738
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: and the limited sample size we had on a very

739
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: windy day out in College Station in that spring game,

740
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw for Max Johnson a little

741
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: bit better. And keep in mind, Max Johnson's new there,

742
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: so it's a new system for him. He's still ingested

743
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: a lot, whereas Haines King's been there a couple of years.

744
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: So anytime you got a new guy who is comparable

745
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: to the incumbent or the established guy, you start to

746
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: ask yourself. Okay, well, now with summer seven on seven's

747
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: and four weeks of fall camp for Max Johnson.

748
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: What could he ultimately be?

749
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: If I had to lean, and I have no lean,

750
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: but it would be ever so slightly to Max Johnson.

751
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Right now, that's going to change a lot, because I

752
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: can tell you I'm very much on the fence on

753
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: this one, and I think Jimbo Fisher is too.

754
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing because I'm.

755
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Pretty sure they believe they can win with either one

756
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: of those guys, So that's not a bad thing. We're

757
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about a situation that is in toithetical

758
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: to that in a few minutes, but.

759
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: It's not the worst place to be in the world.

760
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: What about Oregon, This is one where spring didn't deliver

761
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: what I thought it would either Bo Nicks, Ty Thompson,

762
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw Jay Butterfield in there too. I know, Jesse,

763
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to put it on the graphic,

764
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you why I'm putting Butterfield in there.

765
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: If you listen to our guys at Duck Territory, which

766
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: is the Oregon twenty four to seven supports site, they're

767
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of saying the same thing that my eyes saw

768
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: just watching the spring game. They covered the team on

769
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: a day to day basis, but we're both seeing the

770
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: same tune. This is not even a race right now

771
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: absent injury. That's Bo Nix's job at Oregon. The question

772
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: now becomes, well, how about this race for the number

773
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: two spot Ty Thompson, Jay Butterfield, Like, who's going to

774
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: be that backup quarterback? And that is not what I

775
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: expected going in the spring, Going in the spring, I

776
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: expected good for bo Nicks. Change the scenery may do

777
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: him good, but he's got a fight on his hands

778
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: up there. That starting job's not just going to be

779
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: given to him. And I'm not claiming it was given

780
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: to him. I'm just telling you he went in there

781
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: and won it, and it doesn't I really feel like

782
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: there was nearly the pushback that I thought there may

783
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: be from ty Thompson. So it really doesn't behoove us

784
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: to spend a great deal of time on it. Like

785
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I said, outside of injury, I don't really see something

786
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: happening between now and their Week one game where bo

787
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Nix is not their starter. Now Nicks came from Auburn,

788
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: and at Auburn, this is a little bit of a

789
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: mess right now in that quarterback room. There was no

790
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: real separation in the spring, however, unlike some of these

791
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: other places where it's ultra competitive with maybe multiple guys

792
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: who a staff feels they can go into battle with.

793
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: If that Auburn staff were honest with you, I don't

794
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: know that they're confident with any of these.

795
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Guys right now. TJ.

796
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: Finley started for him at times last year, very mixed results.

797
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Zach Calzadas come in there in the transfer portal from

798
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. Didn't participate in the spring. He's

799
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: still rehabbing from his shoulder injury. I think that he

800
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: suffered against Auburn last year. You got Robbie Ashford, who

801
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: is a transfer from Oregon who probably if you watch

802
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: the Auburn game, probably looked about as good as any

803
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: of them. This is not an LSU situation. This is

804
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: not a Texas A and M situation. At those places

805
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: in the SEC West, you look and you say, well,

806
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who it's gonna be, but whoever it's

807
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna be, I think they're gonna be able to win

808
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: with him.

809
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: You're looking at the graphic here if you're watching on YouTube.

810
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: Ashford he had a nice little spark towards the end

811
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: of spring, but he transferred out of Oregon for a reason.

812
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: He could not crack that starting rotation up there. Zach Calzada.

813
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Last year, Hey, he beat Alabama, but also got hurt.

814
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: And it's a new system for him too now, and

815
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: so you don't really know what you're gonna have in

816
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: him and TJ. Finley wildly inconsistent last year. You talk

817
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: to people around Auburn days flat out don't feel like

818
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Finley's going to be the guy. Yeah, if he is

819
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: the guy, they don't feel like there's a very high

820
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: ceiling for the season. That's the feedback I get from Auburn.

821
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: So there's this other little nugget of the fact that

822
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: they got to play Penn State, LSU, Georgia, Ole, Miss, Arkansas, Texas,

823
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: A and M and Alabama all in the same year.

824
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: Have fun with that, Brian Harson. That's why the over

825
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: underwin totals for Auburn are floating right around Bowl eligibility.

826
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: It's a tough schedule, and then you combine it with

827
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: the fact that there are big time questions at the

828
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: quarterback position and those did not get answered very much

829
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: in spring. I also wanted to check in on North

830
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Carolina because well, I love North Carolina.

831
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: Drake May Kobe Criswell.

832
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Now, if you're not following North Carolina football, you probably

833
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: have a perception of this team, and it was earned.

834
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: They underdelivered last year relative to what I and many

835
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: other people thought they were capable of. Okay, does that

836
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: always carry over? No, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

837
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one Spooked a whole lot of people with

838
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina. So I think what the vast majority of

839
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: the college casual public is thinking about North Carolina is, well,

840
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: they won seven games last year with Sam Howell. Now

841
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: they don't have him. He's off to the NFL. Okay, Well,

842
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: what if I told you I think they'll be better

843
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: this year without Sam Howell? And what if I told

844
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: you that staff probably there's no probably that staff believes

845
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: in Drake May and Jacoby Criswell. They certainly liked the

846
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: energy they had on the team in the spring, at

847
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: least a lot more than they had last year. Mack

848
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: Brown was not shy about talking about that.

849
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: Drake May.

850
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: A lot of you if you follow recruiting, remember he

851
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: was committed to Bama at one point he decommitted, and

852
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: he's been up there.

853
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: He's not a true freshman.

854
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: He was up there last year, so he came in

855
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: with a lot of highly ranked recruits. A lot of

856
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: those guys have a year's more seasoning on them. And

857
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: I'm not just thinking offensive guys either. But also I

858
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: think this is a situation where their coaching staff is

859
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: looking and saying, we have no clue.

860
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: We could not make a call right now.

861
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: But we think we can win with either one of

862
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: them different skill sets, not you know, they're not mirror

863
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: images of each other, but there's nothing definitive there. I

864
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: just think that that's a situation where both of them

865
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: can win for you. And they have as an opening

866
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: three game stretch to their schedule Florida A and M

867
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: at app State, I can't believe you people keep scheduling that,

868
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: and at Georgia State before they well they have Notre

869
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Dame and then they get into conference play.

870
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: There are tougher three week stretches out there than that.

871
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: I'll just say that.

872
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: So it's it's a prime position to be a dark

873
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: horse and be under the radar. That is an update

874
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: as we sit here today in May, of the quarterback

875
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: situations all across college football.

876
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I still have what do we

877
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: have one too? I don't even know that We're halfway

878
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: through the show. This is insane. It's may.

879
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Don't ever let them tell you, don't ever even let

880
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: people speak the O word around you off season.

881
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Don't let them.

882
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Don't let them even get the whole word out of

883
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: their mouths before you just press that index finger against

884
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: their lips because there is none of that.

885
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: Look at how much we have to talk about.

886
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I asked you three weeks ago boldest takes you

887
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: have that you'd bet money on for this college football season,

888
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: and we're on part four now. We had so many

889
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: submissions we could not get them all in in three shows.

890
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: As one of you said the other night, when the

891
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: paper clicks, you know it gets serious. First up, I

892
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: thought this one was a little ridiculous, but you know what,

893
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: that's why it's called boldness. Bama has at minimum six

894
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: guys with at least five hundred plus receiving yards. On

895
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: a one to ten boldness scale, I put this at

896
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: a nine. Okay, this is not going to happen. You

897
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: can go back and look at some of the most

898
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: loaded receiver stables Bama has had.

899
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: This is not the way it works out.

900
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: Eventually, you will have one or two horses emerge and

901
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: those guys could crack fifteen hundred yards for you.

902
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: But it'd be a good season.

903
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm stressing a little bit, but those guys can crack

904
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: a thousand yards for you. Having five of them minimum,

905
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Those were yours, not mine.

906
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: Cracked the five hundred yard mark.

907
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: Though we saw Jamison Williams and John Metchi go down

908
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: last year. Did it look like there was just a ready,

909
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: willing and able stable of guys behind them that were

910
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: all ready to be dependable to that degree? A Jy

911
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: Hall left and so yeah, you brought in Jermaine Burton.

912
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Have no doubts about him. They just brought in Harold

913
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Louisville can run like a three

914
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: nine forty.

915
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: I have no doubt about him. Really. I think he'll

916
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: fit in there very well.

917
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Jacorey Brooks, that's a guy. I think it's going to

918
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: be very dependable. But outside of that, we just got

919
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: three fists of the way there.

920
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: Jojo Earle. I like him.

921
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of promise. It's not proven. Christian

922
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Leary not proven.

923
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: You know.

924
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Ty Jones Bell never really knew how to pronounce his

925
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: first name, Treyshawn Holden.

926
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: Those are dependable guys. Those are the kind of guys

927
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: that any given.

928
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Saturday, you turn on the highlights at the end of

929
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: the day and you see Alabama just beat Mississippi State

930
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: and Christian Leary had six catches for one hundred and

931
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: eleven yards, and you said, good for Christian Leary.

932
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Is it week to week production or.

933
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Was it the fact that, for whatever reason, Oh, they

934
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: did a pretty decent job of containing Jermaine Burton. But

935
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: because of that, because of all that attention, Christian Leary

936
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: sprung several leaks. Those kind of games happen. But a

937
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: five hundred yard receiving season sounds easy.

938
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: Just five football fields. That's all it is.

939
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: That's all it is until you got eleven guys standing

940
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: between you and the next yard. Then you realize it's

941
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: a lot harder. Even with the Heisman Trophy trophy winner

942
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: throwing to you. It's a lot harder than it looks.

943
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: So I think that's a little.

944
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: Too bold for my taste.

945
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Next up Georgia, who just beat Alabama in the title game.

946
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: How about Spacegator, and I am assuming total unbiased take here,

947
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Georgia will not repeat.

948
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: They won't even make the playoff.

949
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: Georgia not making the playoff is only a five on

950
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: the boldness scale to me. Don't try to find the

951
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: loss though on the schedule. Like, I don't think it's

952
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: the boldest thing in the world to say they're not

953
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: going to make the playoff. But at the same time,

954
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm not about to tell you, and it's because they're

955
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: going to lose to this team or this team or

956
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: this team. That's not the way this stuff works. Okay,

957
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: speaking of Alabama, two years ago, they had what I

958
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: think is Nick Saban's best team in twenty twenty.

959
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: It was the COVID year. It was weird. They played

960
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: all SEC schedule.

961
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: They just completely splattered everyone, including Ohio State in the

962
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: national title game. Well then last year, the follow up year,

963
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: they lost a bunch of talent, like.

964
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: Georgia just did.

965
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: Where did they lose? They lost as a three touchdown favorite.

966
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: No one saw that coming. So my point is, when

967
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: you look at Georgia's schedule, no one's dcting them to

968
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: lose to Oregon. No, I'll tell you where Georgia's Texas

969
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: A and m Land mine on here would be. It'd

970
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: be like at South Carolina or at Missouri, Like that's

971
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: where they'll be favored by twenty one, twenty four points

972
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: and you won't even have it circled.

973
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 2: We probably won't even do a preview for the game.

974
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Georgia loses and you're like,

975
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: how could that happen?

976
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's sports. It's college football consequences of success.

977
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: It's having a target on your back and having to

978
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: replace your entire defense, like crazier things have happened before.

979
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: But because George is going to be favored in every game,

980
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: and we're talking about them making the playoff here again,

981
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: would they be in a situation where, let's say, if

982
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: they go undefeated but lose the SEC title game like

983
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: they did last year, they'd also still be able to

984
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: get in. Because every year is unique. It just so

985
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: happened last year. It was set up to where Georgia

986
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: could afford to lose and still get in. That's not

987
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: a guarantee every year.

988
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: So because of.

989
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: Those scenarios, and I know how this stuff tends to work,

990
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to give that only a five. That's not

991
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: as bold as it sounds, even though you think they

992
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: may have a soft schedule by SEC East standards. How

993
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: about the next one. I don't know that we've done

994
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: a segment on Maryland in a while. Maryland will be

995
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: the next year's pit meaning a top fifteen team, Tauliya

996
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Tonga Bai Looa will be a Heisman finalist. This is

997
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: a nine on the boldness scale, and I'm gonna tell

998
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: you why some of you let yourselves fall asleep on

999
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: conference realignment and you still hear Maryland and you think ACC.

1000
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: Well, friends, they're not in the ACC.

1001
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: So while you may be thinking, oh, maybe they'll go

1002
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: yawn their way through wins at Duke and maybe they'll

1003
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: get by Way Forest and Syracuse, euh no, no, no, no,

1004
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: that's not what has to happen here. They got to

1005
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: play at Michigan and then Michigan State back to back,

1006
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: and then a little bit later in the year they

1007
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: got a nice three week stretch that takes them to Wisconsin,

1008
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: two Penn State, and then Ohio State. Does anyone in

1009
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: the room, I'm looking around, I don't see any nodding heads.

1010
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: Does anyone think that Maryland is about to do what

1011
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Pitt did last year? Let me remind you, Pitt didn't

1012
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: just have a nice solid pat him on the head season.

1013
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: They won the ACC. So Mike Loxley and company, they're

1014
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna weave their way through that treacherous Big Ten slate

1015
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: and go to Indianapolis and win the Big Ten. Well,

1016
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: if they do that, I will say the second part

1017
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: of that is very reasonable. Thinking that to his little

1018
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: brother could be a Heisman Trophy finalist, certainly. I don't

1019
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: see any way they do it without him performing at

1020
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: a high level.

1021
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: This is also a.

1022
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Bridge a little bit too far from me, so I

1023
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: put this one at a nine on the boldness scale. However,

1024
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: I would love to see it happen. I have long

1025
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: searched for a reason to talk about Maryland Moore on

1026
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: the program.

1027
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, there are a lot of folks.

1028
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Who live in that portion of the country who probably

1029
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: don't think they have much of a reason to watch

1030
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: the show right now. If you are watching in the DMV,

1031
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: thank you for being tuned inm Hendon Hooker remember him well.

1032
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: He's still around in Knoxville. Dorina put us a hashtag

1033
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: out here Hooker for Heisman, and I can only imagine

1034
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: what a lacrosse fan thinks that means. But Hooker for

1035
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: Heisman will actually be a thing this year. That is

1036
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: her bold prediction. This is a four to me. I

1037
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's that bold at all. Hendon Hooker was

1038
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: well on his way to establishing himself in that vein

1039
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, he wasn't Bryce Young who ultimately

1040
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: won the award, but he was fourth in yards per

1041
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: completion in FBS last year. Of course, he had the

1042
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: thirty one to three touchdown to interception ratio, had six

1043
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: hundred yards on the ground to boot, so you got

1044
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: the dual threat capability there. Here's what would have to

1045
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: happen for Hendon Hooker to be a Heisman Trophy finalist.

1046
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: They would have to probably start off four and oh,

1047
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: which is doable. They got a trip to pitt and

1048
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: they got a home date against Florida. Those are two

1049
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: games where they may be slight dogs, but they won't

1050
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: be overwhelming underdogs. If they can win those two games,

1051
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: they go to LSU at four and oh. From that

1052
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: point you've got a lot more attention on the program

1053
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: than you would have had, and thus a lot more

1054
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: attention on Hendon Hooker, who if you're four and oh

1055
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: is probably played pretty well. Then what they have to

1056
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: do is they have to go nine and three or

1057
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: better for the season, and in the games they lose

1058
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: it better bet to Alabama and Georgia teams like that,

1059
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: and they have to shine in trail mode, meaning if

1060
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: they're trailing Alabama thirty four to seventeen, Hendon Hooker needs

1061
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: to be throwing the ball in catchup mode, and they

1062
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: need to be putting up big statistical numbers even if

1063
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: they lose the game, because at the end of the year,

1064
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, it's just a

1065
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: stat award. No one really compartmentalizes or contextualizes. Well, yeah,

1066
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: he had a lot of passing yards, but what if

1067
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: I told you thirty eight percent of them came in

1068
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: garbage time. They don't even die that. You know who

1069
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: votes on this stuff. So if they go nine and

1070
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: three or better, because the team's got to be a

1071
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: certain level of good and Hendon Hooker shines in catchup

1072
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: mode in the games they're trailing and they start four

1073
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: to oh to get the early national attention. Yes, he

1074
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: could be a Heisman Trophy finalist. He's in the right offense,

1075
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: he's playing for the right guy. Next up, Cincinnati will

1076
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: go undefeated. That is Michael's bold prediction. This is a nine.

1077
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: I have gone virtually bold across the board tonight, to

1078
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: a degree that I'm not willing to travel with you. Michael,

1079
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't think this is happening. Probably the most underrated

1080
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: story from the draft this past weekend, and lost amongst

1081
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: all the noise of Texas didn't have anyone drafted, and

1082
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: believe me, I'm about to get to that. To Georgia

1083
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: had like half of Athens Clark County drafted.

1084
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Well, you had Cincinnati. This is incredible.

1085
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati just put nine guys into the NFL Draft. That's

1086
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: the third most among college football programs, not just G

1087
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: five's college football programs.

1088
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Think about that accomplishment.

1089
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke Fickle like, they're not quite going to

1090
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: build a statue of him for this, but that is

1091
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: like a hats off, solid thirty second round of applause

1092
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: type deal for him and for that staff there. They

1093
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: had more guys drafted than Bama, Michigan, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

1094
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: That's great.

1095
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: But now as it pertains to this bold prediction that

1096
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: they're going to go undefeated again, now what are we

1097
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: doing without Desmond Ritter and their top two corners and

1098
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: replacing nine NFL caliber players. They open at Arkansas, So

1099
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: it's not the easiest schedule. It's hard to go undefeated

1100
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: even with last year's guys. That wasn't the easiest thing

1101
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: to do with those guys. Without them, you just play

1102
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: your normal conference schedule. There's probably a hiccup or two

1103
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: in there. There'll be a healthy underdog of a touchdown

1104
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: or more on the road at Arkansas in Week one.

1105
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: But also it's not the talent that that staff will

1106
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: struggle to replace. I can promise you if Luke Fickle

1107
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: were sitting next to me right now and he had

1108
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: to be honest to tell you, we're pretty good at

1109
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: developing talent, and we've got pretty good depth here. We

1110
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: may not be as talented and as capable game in,

1111
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: game out as we were last year. That's a really

1112
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: good team, but that's not what we're worried about.

1113
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: The leadership. It's replacing the intangibles, chief among them. Leadership.

1114
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: That's what we can't know. Those guys probably ran that

1115
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: team last year. It's the coach's team, but ultimately the

1116
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: best teams, it becomes the players team because the players

1117
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: can police themselves, the players take accountability of the program.

1118
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: You have nine of those cats walk out the door,

1119
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: it's not just next man up. It is, but it

1120
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: isn't and automatically get the same level of production you

1121
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: just had.

1122
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: So that's a nine for me.

1123
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if they if they win nine games

1124
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: this year, it'd be a good follow up year. I

1125
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would label it a disappointment.

1126
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Nine ten wins, like that's a really good year, especially

1127
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: when you open with Arkansas. All right, let's move it on.

1128
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Let's keep a nice, brisk pace here. We had some

1129
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: Q and A because I told you at like ten am,

1130
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: I had some time for it. So we're giving you

1131
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: time for Q and A. You did not disappoint me.

1132
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: I can promise you that. All right, let's dive in.

1133
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: What was the first one we rolled with here? Daniel asked,

1134
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: we're watching you from Ashville, Alabama. Thank you Asheville, He said,

1135
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Miami, Oklahoma, USC and Texas combined for

1136
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: under thirty two wins this year.

1137
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: Of course, we're talking regular season.

1138
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: So my big question to you Sooners, Canes, Trojans, Longhorns.

1139
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: Can we average eight wins? Can we get us a

1140
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: push here? These are new staffs. They have depth issues

1141
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: in several places. Obviously, target on all the backs. Don't

1142
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: get drunk on overs. Everyone bets overs. No one ever

1143
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: loves to bet unders, most unpopular bet in preseason culture.

1144
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: So understand that no one's depth chart is going to

1145
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: remain looking exactly like it does, and not everything's going

1146
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: to work out. Eventually your uniform gets dirty and your

1147
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: left tackle goes down with a season any potella injury.

1148
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: Hate to see it, but it's going to happen to everyone.

1149
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some bumps along the road. Okay,

1150
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: we don't have to be perfect here? Can we just

1151
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: average eight wins amongst these four teams? Here's a reason

1152
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: to be confident. Quarterback play first and foremost. Gabriel the transfer,

1153
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: he's in there at Oklahoma. Tyler Van Dyke could be

1154
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: a fringe Heisman contender for all we know. At Miami,

1155
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: you've also got Caleb Williams famously has transferred from Oklahoma

1156
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: to USC and then also Quinn Ewers. I think we'll

1157
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: end up being the starting quarterback pretty definitively in Austin, Texas.

1158
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: None of these teams are in the SEC, and none

1159
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: of these teams are in the Big Ten. So the

1160
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: two toughest conference slates that any team could draw, all.

1161
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Four of these teams avoid them. So what are we

1162
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: left with?

1163
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, Producer Jesse went into his stats and info chamber

1164
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: and he came out and gave me what he feels

1165
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: are the toughest games for all four of these teams.

1166
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: So I want you to listen to this list right quick,

1167
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: and then I want to give you a caveat at

1168
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: the end to make you think the over is probably

1169
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: the right pick.

1170
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Here.

1171
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Remember it's Oklahoma, it's Texas, it's USC, it's Miami. Over

1172
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: or under thirty two wins this year combined. USC plays

1173
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: at Utah, at Stanford, at UCLA at Notre Dame. Probably

1174
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: the four toughest games for the Trojans. Oklahoma they play Texas,

1175
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: of course, in red River, they go to Baylor, they

1176
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: got Oklahoma State, Texas plays Bama. In week two they

1177
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: play Oklahoma. In Dallas they go to Oklahoma State and

1178
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: they got Baylor. And then Miami they play at A

1179
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: and M that's a down A conference game. Obviously, they

1180
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: got North Carolina at home at Clemson and Pitt. Here's

1181
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: the point, they could lose every one of those games,

1182
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: and still the number is thirty three. Of course you

1183
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: have Oklahoma Texas there, so one of them has to

1184
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: win that game, so they can lose every one of

1185
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: those games I just listed, and still if we just

1186
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: avoid total disaster, and there will probably be some games

1187
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: there one. Obviously, it's not gonna be total worst case.

1188
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: I think the over is the pick here, And I

1189
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: know what you're thinking. You're thinking yourself. Listen out of

1190
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Mario being brand new and Lincoln Riley being brand new,

1191
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: and Sark not even making a Bowl game last year.

1192
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: Brent Venables is brand new. It all sounds good, but

1193
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, good and well, someone's going to drop like

1194
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: a six win clunker on you. That could happen. What

1195
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you on the other side of the mathematical

1196
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: fence is I think it's just as likely one of

1197
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: these teams finds their way to ten wins as it

1198
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: is someone merely finds their way.

1199
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: To six wins.

1200
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: So yes, I think we can average eight wins here.

1201
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: I do think the over is the answer. But in

1202
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: typical fashion, I welcome your comments in the comment section

1203
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: because I think there's gonna be some strong under energy here.

1204
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you just despise these programs,

1205
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: and I don't blame you as part of what makes

1206
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: the sport great. Give me reasons. Why, give me substantive reasons.

1207
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: Don't just tell me under and then reason they suck.

1208
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Give me a little bit more than that. Please thank you.

1209
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: Next up, you probably thought that we were going to

1210
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: finish the show without talking about this, but I am

1211
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: really not that nice a person.

1212
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Nor is No Huddle Podcast. Colin. Here's your endpoint, No

1213
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Huddle Podcast. Hit us up? How is it possible?

1214
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: Texas continues to struggle, struggle strugg I'm struggling to walk

1215
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: today because I've got a my pulled groin muscle. Texas

1216
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: is doing something a whole lot more than struggling. How

1217
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: is it possible? Texas continues to struggle to send kids

1218
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: to the NFL. They have everything a powerhouse needs except culture.

1219
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: Mitch from Scottsdale, Arizona. Well, Mitch, you said a lot

1220
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: when you said except for culture. I need to have

1221
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: a word with some of you because some of you

1222
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: are in a couple of camps and you can't be

1223
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: in two camps at the same time. Okay, some of

1224
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: you out there are in the camp of Well, Texas

1225
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: has had all this talent and they still haven't done

1226
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: anything with it.

1227
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: True, I happen to be in that camp.

1228
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Then some of you are in another camp, and that

1229
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: is when anyone could win if you got the kind

1230
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: of talent that Nick.

1231
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: Saban and Kirby smart have.

1232
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: You can be in one of those camps, you cannot

1233
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: be in both of them.

1234
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: Do you see the issue here?

1235
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: If you don't, you can't watch one program acquire tons

1236
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: of talent. I'll show you exactly how talented they've been

1237
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: in a second, and watch them lack what Alabama and

1238
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: Georgia have and fall flat on their face, I mean,

1239
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: in spectacular fashion, and then still look at Tuscaloosa and Athens.

1240
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: And say, oh, anyone can do that. No, No, it's

1241
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 2: really hard.

1242
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: Even when you have all the best players, it's still

1243
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: not easy to do what those cats do. So let's

1244
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: be real. This has been a disaster. This has been

1245
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: an unmitigated disaster. How bad has it been? Here are

1246
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: the TVMA numbers to back it up.

1247
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: The Texas Longhorns.

1248
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: Players drafted by year starting in twenty sixteen, one, twenty

1249
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: seventeen one, twenty eighteen four, twenty nineteen two, twenty twenty three,

1250
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one five, and a big fat goose egg

1251
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two. I had stats in Info run

1252
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: the numbers. That is, sixteen total players drafted since twenty

1253
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: sixteen Georgia by comparison, just sent fifteen in this draft alone.

1254
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: So that's where the two programs stand, respectively. It's not done.

1255
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: It gets even more violent. Texas had top five recruiting

1256
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: classes in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. They had a

1257
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: top ten class in twenty two twenty. That is the

1258
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: crop of players that were essentially talking about here going undrafted.

1259
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: Seven other colleges had at least one player drafted.

1260
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: Now, I left one thing out there because I want

1261
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: to go back and reemphasize it.

1262
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: You heard me say seven other colleges had at least

1263
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: one player drafted. What I meant to say is seven

1264
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: other colleges in the state of Texas had at least

1265
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: one player drafted. It's the fourth time since twenty fourteen

1266
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: with zero or one players being drafted. Nineteen thirty eight,

1267
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, twenty twenty two. Those are the years with

1268
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: the gooseg in the draft column. It kind of hurts

1269
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: to say this because, like, I want Texas to be good,

1270
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: but there's only one way to fix this, and it's

1271
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: just to rip the band aid off and to understand

1272
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: what the problems are. And lastly, but not leastly, if

1273
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: you really want me to just shove the dagger in

1274
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: a little bit further. These are programs with more draft

1275
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: picks than Texas this last year Air Force.

1276
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: Good for the Falcons.

1277
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: Fayetteville State, we had to look up the mascot the Bronco.

1278
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: I believe, don't mess with them though apparently Fordham, Kansas,

1279
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: Missouri State, Sanford, Southern Utah.

1280
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: Valdosta State, and Yale. We gotta fix things in Austin.

1281
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully Steve Sarkisian is well on his way to doing that.

1282
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: But back to the question at hand, how's it possible

1283
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: with all that talent walking in the door. Well, it's

1284
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: the exact same is. If you go buy all the

1285
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: groceries in the world but then tear the start knob

1286
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: off your oven, doesn't really matter what you have in

1287
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: the fridge. If you have no means to make the meal,

1288
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: you don't get the finished product.

1289
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: Everyone just goes hungry.

1290
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: So we've had all the groceries in the world and

1291
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: we haven't had anyone out there capable of making the meal.

1292
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: And you may think to yourself, oh, sure, okay. Metaphors notwithstanding,

1293
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: if you recruit at a certain level, you'll just accidentally

1294
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: put some kids in the draft, won't you. No, No,

1295
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Speaker 1: I'll be at the airport early in the morning, for example,

1296
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: And if I get on that airplane, doesn't matter if

1297
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: all one hundred eighty seats are filled, if the pilot

1298
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: doesn't show up, if someone doesn't show up capable of

1299
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: getting that thing off the ground. You don't just look

1300
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: around the cabin and say, Okay, the pilot's not here.

1301
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: But like, it's how hard can it be? You got

1302
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: wings on this thing, You.

1303
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: Just hit the gas, you pull the stick back, plane

1304
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: takes off. Nope, Nope, it really is that difficult, even

1305
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: with everything else in place.

1306
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: You've got to have the culture.

1307
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: You've got to have structure first off, and you got

1308
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: to have development, and if you don't have them, it

1309
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: can be this disastrous.

1310
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: It really can. So if you.

1311
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: Can, if you can believe it, Yeah, Texas just went

1312
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: over in the draft. But I do think about this

1313
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot when I see stuff like this happen. I

1314
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: don't think this. I mean, this is obviously going to

1315
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: be rectified to some extent starting next year.

1316
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: So I kid around a little bit. I don't like

1317
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: Texas in this state, but.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of folks out there

1319
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: who say it doesn't matter where you commit to out

1320
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: of high school, cause if you can play, the NFL

1321
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: will find you. And I've always thought that is the

1322
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: biggest load of bs anyone could ever feed you.

1323
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh, it's true that if.

1324
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Your raw talent and God given ability is at a

1325
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: certain level, the NFL probably will find you. It makes

1326
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: all the difference in the world where you go to college,

1327
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: because it makes.

1328
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: All the difference in the world where you go in

1329
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: terms of the folks who have your fate in their hands.

1330
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot you don't control.

1331
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: You don't ultimately control everything about your development and placement

1332
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: and utilization. There is a lot about the culture of

1333
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: a college football program you need to be right. That

1334
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: is beyond your ability to control. It matters a lot.

1335
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: So you may have five star talent. And then we

1336
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: got an ab scenario here. You go to program A,

1337
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: you end up being a first round draft pick. You

1338
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: go to a program B, you end up being a

1339
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: borderline seventh round draft pick. Okay, well, the NFL found you.

1340
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: In both instances, you were right. You made life changing

1341
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: money down path A. Hopefully you get to your second

1342
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: contract and make life changing money down path b It

1343
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: makes all the.

1344
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: Difference in the world. So what are we saying here?

1345
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: Are we saying that all these kids that just went

1346
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: to Texas with a lot of stars next to their name,

1347
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of other major programs wanted them, they

1348
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: go undrafted? You tell me they just would have been

1349
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: undrafted no matter where they went. No, they wouldn't. Some

1350
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: of them, maybe not all of them. They went to

1351
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: the wrong program. As it turns out, Texas was not

1352
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: equipped to develop them. I'm not speaking about Texas today,

1353
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: moving forward, speaking about Texas in the rearview mirror. So

1354
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: it takes more than just you, unless you are a

1355
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: transcendently great player, it takes more than just you. So

1356
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: be very careful and use the right criteria when you're

1357
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: choosing that college destination. If you want to commit, by

1358
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: the way, on the program, we'll be happy to have you.

1359
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: Another question here that I got pretty emotionally charged about today.

1360
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: Grilled Cheese fan, who I respect already for obvious reasons,

1361
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: hit me up and said, who are your top five

1362
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: coaches forty five years old or younger? Checking in from Walla, Walla, Washington.

1363
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: I love grilled cheese, I love alliteration and.

1364
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: I love the Paate state hashtag. There.

1365
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: I got five of them for you since you asked

1366
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: for five. Dave Arranda is my number one. The rest

1367
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: of these aren't really in a one through five order.

1368
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Dave Randa is my number one coach in the country

1369
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: forty five years old or younger. My experience, as I've

1370
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: spoken about many times on the show at the Oklahoma

1371
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: Baylor game where we got some one on one time

1372
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Speaker 1: with him this last year, really opened my eyes to

1373
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Dave Randa. I would strongly encourage you guys to go

1374
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: find Andy Staples podcast.

1375
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: For end of the program from last week. I think

1376
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: it was last Monday.

1377
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: He had Randa on, probably spoke for about thirty minutes

1378
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: with him.

1379
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: Dave Randa is just different man.

1380
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: He's got sky high football like you, but man, he's

1381
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: got an authenticity about himself. He's very cerebral, psychologically different level.

1382
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: I think he said he studied it in college leadership skills.

1383
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: But man, Dave A.

1384
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: Randa, whereas other guys may talk about x's and o's

1385
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: of recruiting, he's talking at length about the hierarchy of

1386
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: competence and how he got to a level after year

1387
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: one at Baylor. A lot of people have been criticizing

1388
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: him because his offense was terrible and he was punting

1389
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: in situations he obviously should not have been punting in.

1390
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: And he talked about conscious incompetence, which is like the

1391
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: second level, or as Dave Randa would call it, the

1392
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: pit on the hierarchy of competence, and that is the

1393
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: level you get to in life where you go from

1394
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: not knowing you don't know to knowing you don't know.

1395
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: And he said that was a nightmare to be a

1396
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: head coach. Now, I'm not a coordinator where I got

1397
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: a little compartment I live in. I'm the head coach

1398
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: of this program and I'm looking around after year one,

1399
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: I just hired all these people. They moved their families here,

1400
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: and I realize I obviously hired the wrong folks. But

1401
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't immediately know which way to go. And he

1402
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: had to seek advice and he had to listen to

1403
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people. He scratched the surface and that's

1404
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: it as to what he's capable of. David rand is

1405
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: going to be a star head coach for a long time.

1406
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: That's my number one. I think he's right at forty

1407
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: five years old, So it was very it was very.

1408
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: Convenient that we put that where we did. But David

1409
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: rand is my number one. Four more of them.

1410
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: You can put these pretty much in any order you

1411
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: want to, because I can make a case for all

1412
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: of them. Ryan Day is forty three years old, head

1413
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: coach iiO State. He is thirty four and four in

1414
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: his career so far. I did not know this. I

1415
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: was looking up some research on him today. Ohio State,

1416
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: what was it they've hired. They have not hired a

1417
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: head coach without head coaching experience since the forties. Excuse

1418
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: you an idea of how imprecedented it was that Ryan

1419
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: Day was catapulted into the catbird seat there. He knows

1420
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, handles the quarterbacks there. Obviously very very

1421
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: elite recruiter. But what impressed me so much, aside from

1422
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to be the guy

1423
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: when they could have had anyone, is he knew the

1424
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: score from day one. Like at the time, Ohio State

1425
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: as they are now was perennially the favorite in the

1426
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: Big Ten. But he immediately there was no feeling out process.

1427
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: He knew we're not just competing with Michigan or with

1428
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: Penn State. It's a tough chour every year. Obviously last

1429
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: year they lost to Michigan. But he stepped in and

1430
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: understood immediately, it doesn't matter if we've got the best

1431
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: recruiting class in the Big Ten by a mile. It

1432
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we skull drag everyone here by five touchdowns.

1433
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: We are competing with Alabama.

1434
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: That's who we're competing gins, and I don't care if

1435
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: we don't draw him in the regular season. We are

1436
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: going to run up against that program. And that's how

1437
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: they've gone about their business. They did run up against

1438
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: Alabama once so far in a national title game.

1439
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: They weren't good enough, and so they went right back

1440
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: to work.

1441
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: And then last year you watched him realize early on,

1442
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: my defense is not good enough. So he made some

1443
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: moves as much as he could in the season and

1444
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: got Jim Knowles after the season. Ryan Day, likewise, probably

1445
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: still just scratching the surface as to what he's capable of.

1446
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Billy Napier is the new head coach at Florida. Billy

1447
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: Napier forty two years old. He was forty and twelve

1448
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: in four seasons at Louisiana did it pretty quietly. He's

1449
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: not very flamboyant. You know, he didn't draw a lot

1450
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: of headlines for the wrong reasons. And same time he

1451
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: was getting hired at Florida, you had a lot of drama.

1452
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: You had the Brian Kelly stuff, you had a Lincoln

1453
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: Riley stuff, so it was very quiet. This is a

1454
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: guy who absolutely half a decade from now could be

1455
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: the show stealer. He could be the headline grabber from

1456
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: that past hiring cycle, infinitely bigger headlines around other guys.

1457
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: But Napier being forty and twelve at Louisiana is dismissed

1458
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: by some people.

1459
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be.

1460
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: You need to understand about the level of production versus

1461
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: the level of competition at Louisiana. There was no discernible

1462
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: advantage he had relative to the rest of the conference,

1463
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: i e. Chris Peterson at Boise A while bag Peterson

1464
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: was just running a rushout over the conference and he

1465
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: was doing it in rural Idaho. And truth he told

1466
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: he should have been at a disadvantage because of geography,

1467
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: and yet with equal resources he was smoking everyone. Billy

1468
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: Napier had equal resources at Louisiana relative to the rest

1469
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: of the Sun Belt and ran all over everyone.

1470
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: And why does that matter at Florida. Well, you don't look.

1471
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: At it as if to say his Louisiana teams would

1472
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: never win the Seces. No, they probably wouldn't. Man, he's

1473
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: not taking that to Gainesville. He will have a team

1474
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: that is capable of competing in the SEC East.

1475
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: And so again, all resources are going to be comparable.

1476
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: In fact, he'll probably have an advantage more so than

1477
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: he did at Louisiana. He's already shown you he can recruit,

1478
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: he can develop. He's plus in both of those areas.

1479
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: He is a supremely good evaluator and developer. Anytime you

1480
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: ever talk behind the scenes about Billy Napier, all the

1481
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: way back to his days as an assistant coach, that's

1482
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: the two characteristics folks point out. So he's plus in

1483
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: a lot of areas. He's already proven to you he

1484
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: can do it. It's not an up and coming hot

1485
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: shot coordinator. So I really like the future of Florida

1486
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: football under billiy Napier. Lincoln Riley is in here. You

1487
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: probably are not indifferent on this man anymore. Everyone has

1488
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: an opinion. You either love him or you hate him. Well,

1489
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: here's what I know. He's thirty eight years old and

1490
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: in five years at Oklahoma he won four Big twelve

1491
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: titles and went to the playoff three times. You can

1492
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: downgrade him all you want to. That is what we

1493
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: call a proven resume. Those are proven results. Now he's

1494
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: going to the Pac twelve. So it's not a prediction

1495
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: the segment. I'm just telling you. He acquired talent, he

1496
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: maximized it, got multiple Heisman type guys at quarterback, and

1497
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: so that's the package. That's the blueprint that he's taken

1498
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: out to Southern California. I will never know, but I'm

1499
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of interested if they would have played the whole

1500
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: Alex Grinch defensive overhaul thing out.

1501
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: For three or four more years. I wonder where he

1502
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: was headed at Oklahoma.

1503
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: We'll still see it, obviously, they're still going to be

1504
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: able to do that at USC, but I just wonder

1505
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: what direction they were headed. Anyway, can't worry about that

1506
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: because that's in the past. But Lincoln Riley's their age

1507
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Speaker 1: thirty eight, so he's younger than all these guys and

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: already got a more impressive resume than all of them,

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01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: truth be told. Lastly, is my guy Matt Campbell at

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. He's forty two.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The headline that you're probably going to see a lot

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: about him is, oh, his stock is cooled off a

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01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit since they only went seven and six last year. No,

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: his stock is actually red hot because he's so good.

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: He's tricked you into belie even a seven to win

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: season is a down season in ames Iowa. Do you

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: want to do yourself a favor? Go type in Iowa

1519
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: State football on Wikipedia. It can't lie to you about this,

1520
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: Just numbers and check out what Iowa State football was

1521
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: before Matt Campbell got there. Do you remember what seven

1522
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: and six would have meant before he got there? And

1523
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: now what it means is ugh, well, better luck next year.

1524
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: Now seven and six is ticker tape parade material in

1525
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: the pre Matt Campbell era. I'm interested to see them

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: this year because we get to see him. We get

1527
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: to see Matt Campbell lose a quarterback and lose some talent.

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01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 1: We'll see how they replenish the roster.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: He's the three time Big Twelve coach of the Year.

1531
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: He's always got them challenging or pulling out right upsets

1532
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: against teams that history says they have no business competing against.

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Speaker 2: So Matt Campbell's there.

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Speaker 1: David Randa, Ryan Dave, Billy Napier, Lincoln Riley, Matt Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Those are my five head coaches forty five or younger.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I have got well, I got a lot

1537
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: of you watching live, so I appreciate it. Hey, So

1538
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: I can't really tell you a whole lot I will

1539
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: be able to in the future. Just know, as I've

1540
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: told you before, there are a whole lot of people

1541
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: watching the show in a whole lot of different capacities.

1542
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,440
Speaker 1: Some are just fans, some are high level mustache executives,

1543
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: some are people from other companies, like there are all

1544
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: kinds of people watching the show. A lot of people

1545
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: in our industry watch the show. They all say the

1546
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: same thing. The connectivity that our audience has to the show,

1547
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: the interaction, the influence, everything about the show is tailored

1548
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: to you. It's very impressive they notice it, and so

1549
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of validation. But my whole point is it

1550
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: can't happen without you. Our numbers are beyond insane right now.

1551
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: So I wait to the end of the show where

1552
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: I know all the diehards are tuned in and the

1553
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: casuals are tuned out. Thank you so much, because if

1554
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: we're doing this in April and May, I think you

1555
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: can safely imagine what it's going to be like in

1556
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: August and.

1557
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: September and October and beyond.

1558
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: We've still got to name our tour for this upcoming season.

1559
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: We'll get that done. I am headed to Oklahoma and

1560
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: Kansas tomorrow to Stormchase.

1561
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: Be safe out there. If you see me, I mean

1562
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: a little wave. Man.

1563
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: I have time to talk, but we will be back

1564
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: with you in podcast form only, audio podcast form only

1565
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: for the Wednesday morning Late Kick Extra. We will be

1566
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: back here Thursday night for Late Caick Live, so we're

1567
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: kind of back on a normal.

1568
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: Schedule now until next time, as yourselves a great early

1569
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: start of the week. Make sure you're following on Twitter

1570
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: and Instagram at Late Creek.

1571
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: Josh for a producer, Jesse for director, Colin for all

1572
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: our production executives.

1573
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm Josh paid day Care.

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Speaker 1: Have a great start your week, and God bless