WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: What Happens Next? 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:17.439 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.240 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:27.880 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newey Scrugs. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.479 Here we are a Friday. Everybody ready to talk Dallas 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.640 Cowboys football with you for one full hour. I am 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.720 Newi Scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, and I'm joined by two 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.680 former Cowboys players. Danny McCray and Barry Church. Were broadcasting 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.400 from our homes doing things in this new COVID nineteen 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.120 that we've been dealing with here. So let's kick this 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.360 thing off. Barry and Danny talking about the Cowboys and 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.280 the fact that they're practicing. We had nineteen in the 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.360 National Football League yesterday decide not to practice and hold 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.920 conversations dealing with social injustice. I was watching the Los 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.640 Angeles Chargers from so Far Stadium and they ended up 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.120 really going on the NFL networking several players just talking 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.880 about what they were discussing as a team and what's 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.759 been going on in the world. Here. The Cowboys practice yesterday. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.240 Mike McCarthy spoke about these guys wanting to practice today. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.760 So I'll start with you, Danny mccraig, your thoughts on 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.959 the Cowboys and the fact that right now they're practicing 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.920 and no, by the way, the multiple Ravens did not 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:37.120 practice today. Yeah, I'm absolutely not surprised. I guess the 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.080 grace didn't reach that far to let these guys sit 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.840 out of practice and really get this discussion started in 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.760 the locker room and kind of change the culture of 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.600 the team and how we kind of think about protests 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.720 and social injustice. So I'm not really surprised. I wish 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.840 it would have went the other way. And of course, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.880 you know, coach is going to say the players wanted 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.240 to practice, so so, you know, just to kind of 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.400 save them in the public eye. But I'm sure it 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.240 was some guys in the locker room who felt like 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.880 they didn't want to go out there in practice and 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.800 they would rather do what the other teams were doing 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.640 around the NFL, but they just didn't get the chance too. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.120 So hopefully sometimes in their future were able to change 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.400 the outlook of the Cowboys and this social injustice and 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:20.600 protesting process. But as of today, I'm definitely not surprised 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.919 that we are a team that's practice a church. Yeah. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.720 Like like McCray said, I'm not surprised. We all kind 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.359 of figured that this was going to happen. I mean, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.120 the Cowboys have been kind of quiet throughout this social 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:37.440 injustice programming. But listening to what the coach said, Coach McCarthy, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.639 I think you know, when they had to sit down 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.640 discussion with the players and discussing social injustice, the players 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.680 as a whole decided that they would rather go forward 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.639 with practice. I mean that's from what you know Coach 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.240 McCarthy had said. So as a coach, I mean, you 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.839 can't force your team to sit out of practice. And 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.920 even though we all well I know myself I can 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.640 just speak for myself. I wish they would have stayed 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.560 set out of practice just to kind of had a 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.720 symbol there. But if your players want to go forward 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.200 with practice and they want to continue doing what they 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.160 have to do to get ready for the season, then 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.160 you can't play the coach and staff or anything like 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.200 that for going to continue with practice. If the players 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.880 want that, that's what the players do, and that's and 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.280 that's their team. So they decided to keep it moving 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.959 hopefully they can continue to talk about social injustice within 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.799 the team and get a better, better solution to it 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.639 going forward. But I'm not surprised at all by the 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:32.080 staying in practice. Wait, Church, tell me this. Do you 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.120 think that the players are comfortable enough and feel like 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.600 they like they can voice their opinion to not want 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.080 to practice because of social justice at this point? Or 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.320 is it like we know where certain people stand, and 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.360 we know and we feel like if we speak out 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.360 opposite of that, then you know, we'll probably be fired 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.360 or we'll be looked at a certain way. We have 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.200 to worry about getting released just just based on comments 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.800 that were made in the past. Oh, I can guarantee 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.839 you that there's a lot of players who felt uncomfortable 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.920 going forward with practice is um. But like you said, 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.880 there's you know, there's kind of a hierarchy to this, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.040 and if the players and the leaders in place of 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.920 those players decide that, you know, we need to go 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.440 ahead with practice, UM, then that's what the team is 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.120 going to decide to. I mean, I know it's not 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.160 a it's kind of a it's not a majority rules 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.880 type situation. It's more of a what are the leaders 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.880 of the team decide to do and then that's what 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.559 they do going forward. So, um, like like you said earlier, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.480 I'm not surprised, but I wish they would have had 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.039 a better solution for this. All right, let's hear from 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.960 head coach Mike McCarthy. He spoke at seven fifteen to 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.719 the media today. The Cowboys ended up practicing from eight 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:38.800 o'clock to ten o'clock am this morning. So here's coach McCarthy. Well, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.039 I mean when you talk about conversations, I think it's 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:46.760 the obvious is you're having multiple individual conversations throughout the day. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.200 We had a chance to address it as a team. Uh, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.960 you know, just just our directions as far as you know, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.760 making sure that everybody has the opportunity to be heard. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.520 That was that was right after after practice and and 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.919 then we took you know, we had we had a 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.159 team meeting there two forty five. We had an open form. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.400 You know, a number of people spoke and I feel 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.120 like we have very good dialogue going on. And uh, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.880 as you know, as far as the direction, you know, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.080 we're we're going to continue to to work. Um, I 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.680 you know, just talking to the couple of the players 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.520 one on one. UM, you know, they they want to 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.560 practice and UM, so we'll just continue to talk through 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:33.240 this and UM, once again, it's a it's about supporting everybody, 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.200 you know, particularly from my focus in the football operation, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:46.000 and right now my high focuses on the players. All right. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.719 So that's coach McCarthy. And he kept talking about conversations. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.640 And here's the question that I didn't get to ask him, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.360 but I will at some point in time, is when 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.880 do the conversations lead to actions? Verry? That's that's the 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.560 question that I think we're all asking ourselves and asking 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.040 of the Cowboys. Um. You know, when I wish he 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.359 would have had more context to this. I mean he's saying, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.680 you know, we have conversations, and I've talked to a 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.400 couple of the players individually. I wish he would have said, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.320 you know, I talked to the leaders, or I talked 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.279 to Dak Prescott, or I talked to you know, Jalen 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.840 Smith or those guys to see how to pick their brain. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.680 But UM, I wish she just had a little bit 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.960 more context. What are the conversations you're having, what are 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.039 the questions that you're asking, or what are the questions 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.560 your players are asking of the Cowboys to do. So 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.120 I just wish he had a little bit more context 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.960 to this so we could see a little bit more 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:39.240 action from the Dallas Cowboys, but so far we haven't 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:45.240 seen much. Now, let me understand, Danny, I was on 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.080 the call, and so Mike said he didn't want to 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.320 discuss that of what the players said, and he told 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.520 us and our conversations with the players to ask them. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.120 So he was trying to make sure that he didn't 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.520 step out of bounds with what they were saying. So 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.680 he wanted them to say. And so I give him 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.120 credit on that aspect of saying, hey, look, let the 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.200 players tell you exactly what they want to tell you, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.679 and I'll make sure I lay back. And I also 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.200 asked McCarthy about Rob Davis, who's the Cowboys assistant head coach, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.160 and I said, how much do you lean on him? Uh? 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.320 You know, African American, a guy's he's been with for 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:19.880 a lot of years who grew up in DC. And 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.360 he said he talks to Rob a lot. So I 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.680 get the feeling that Mike is really trying to give 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.840 his players the opportunity to do a little bit kind 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.920 of what they wanted. You to let them lead him 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.000 where they want to go with this. Mccraig, go ahead, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.559 I mean back to the action part before you before 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.440 you know, you get from from addressing and then to action. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.600 I'm still waiting on acknowledgement, right, Like I just want 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.200 to hear, just like any like the Packers coach, like 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.880 La Fleur, hey man, this is wrong. This stuff is happening. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.880 This is wrong. We're against it, and we want to 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.200 do something to correct it, like we want to move 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:59.880 forward to figure out a way to get this fixed. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.240 It's never anything that comes like that. Like that was like, yeah, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.760 the players, we talked about. It was open dialogue and 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.240 I'm here for the players. Well, here for the players 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.400 to me is hey man, this is wrong. We understand 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.160 how y'all feel. We see the same thing that y'all see. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.360 Our eyes may have been closed, but now they're open 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.080 and now we're with y'all and we want to figure 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.440 out how to get this thing fixed and we're following, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.480 following your league. Like, I just want to hear some acknowledgement, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.320 and I think that comes before you're able to actually say, hey, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.680 we're about to put this plan into place and and 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:33.120 really act on something. Michael Gelkett of the Dallas Warning 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.200 News on the call today asked McCarthy, being a white man, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.280 knowing that you can't experience what your black players go through, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:43.640 you know, what do you do? And he said, quarter, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.680 I'm a white man and I'm trying to understand what's 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.480 truly going on. So I thought when that Mike did 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.400 acknowledge as much as he could in terms of, hey, look, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.240 I know I'm on the outside. That's where he talked 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.559 about Rob Davis and having Rob Davis in the discussions 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.680 as well here so that it might come out and 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.000 tell you black lives matter the way Mike Gundy of 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.040 v Oklahoma State didn't. No, he did not, not, not 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.640 the way that Rick Carlisle or some other other NBA 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:12.320 coaches did. No, he did not, but he did come. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.679 At least I felt the sense that the head coach 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.520 understands that they got to have these conversations. They need 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.400 to get together and try to figure out how they 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.760 want to go about their business. But the players are 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.199 telling him they want to practice and they want to 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.760 go about their business. Tyrann Smith, we were trying to 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.320 get the audio of tyr Tyrn Smith said that they 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.400 needed to balance doing their jobs and also looking at 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.400 societal and social justice issues. So I keep hearing from 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.920 the players they want to go out here and practice 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.319 and get ready for the season. So that's what I'm 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.640 getting for the players. Well, yeah, this is the Cowboys, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.360 and they won't say anything opposite, So I don't expect 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.559 to hear anything opposite of that from anyone, no matter everything. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.480 Feel feel that way or not. It's it's always been 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.079 business as usual, even when JG was here, and it 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.440 looks like that it's going forward the same way. I 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.160 think we will be the outlining for the remainder of 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.199 the season when it comes to these social injustice pushes, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.120 and the team will continue to say, hey, we're focused 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.840 on the next game, we focused on this, we focused 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.800 on that, and the acknowledgement of what we're talking about 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.679 now is not coming out. And I feel kind of 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.280 opposite of you knowing with McCarthy, kind of acknowledging what's 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.880 going on out there, because you don't have to be 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.480 black to see that this stuff is wrong and understand 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.160 you understand that people getting killed in the streets, even 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.840 if they're innocent or guilty, not being able to go 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.080 to George the court and uh, you know, and be 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.240 tried by jury or received true justice and just being killed. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.800 You don't have to be blacked to see that that's 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.240 wrong or learn to understand that this has been going 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.200 on for four years just an NFL with Colin Kaepernick. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.319 So understanding what's four years ago now is acknowledging and 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.080 doing something about it. Cam cam Irving spoke to the 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.160 media today and cam Irving said, let me quote, you 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.320 feel angry, you feel frustration, you feel there's nothing that 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.760 you can really do. He went on to say that 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.840 the players and the team are still deciding what to 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.880 do and quote further progress. We don't want to come 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.920 out with a bunch of different opinions and views and quote, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.880 and he said that they want to be united. And 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.640 I keep hearing that from Cowboy players, that we want 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.680 to do something as a team. I don't know what 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:34.760 that is, Danny, but that I keep I keep waiting 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.600 on the action. I keep hearing as a conversation, we're meeting, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.400 we're talking. One day, We're gonna one day, one day 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.240 we're gonna do something. And you got you gotta gonna 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.520 see it. You're all gonna feel it so, so get ready. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.520 The last time they came out as a team, they 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.520 came out and took a nap before the anthem for 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.440 the Arizona Cardinals game, right, that was their team unity 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.200 for a moment of prayers. So I'm not I'm not 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.520 banking on any team unity message or are playing the 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.000 actually coming out. I got to see it to believe it, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.960 as as I've always been and what I've seen, I'm 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.600 not believing. I mean, and they can think about it, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.280 and the players that they've told you themselves, even Tyron Smith, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.320 he said, you know, we're focused on a balance and 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.080 getting after practice and you know, getting ready for the season. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.440 So if that's one of your leaders of your team 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.800 speaking that way, saying we're getting ready for the season, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.960 I mean, I just don't see any action or even 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.600 conversations taking place in that locker room if that one 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.600 of your leaders is focusing on getting ready for the 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.679 season and practice and preparation. So I don't know if 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.360 I believe that conversations are happening within that locker room now. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.760 Terry Polis Terry Poe is so I'm happy for him. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.880 I'm happy he's saying what he's saying, so I'm good 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.840 with him, all right. I want to make sure we're 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.040 being fair to tiring. Now he spoke about we are 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.680 having conversations, we are talking, but we also are preparing 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.560 as a team. So I want to make sure that 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:55.960 I get that shure. That's why I'm trying to get 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.920 the audio because because you know, we can can misconstrue 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.120 this a little bit if you haven't heard what he's 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.440 actually saying here. Now, Danny, when you go back to 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.360 what we spoke, what you spoke about with Arizona. Jerry 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.000 Jones was on one oh five three, the Fan of 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.439 the Cowboys flagship radio station on Tuesday, and Jerry said, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.520 that's what he's hoping for. He's hoping to have another 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:23.280 compromise where they make both sides somehow feel good. So 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.280 Jerry's still trying to walk this line here in terms 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.320 of how they go forward with their message or their 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.320 unity as a team. So that's what Jerry's rooting for 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.560 right now. But Nui, what do you mean by both sides? 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.000 I was kind of confused, what do you mean by 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:43.160 both appeasing both? Well, Jerry has consistently let you know 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.920 that he is he and when he talked. Remember we 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.760 talked about the whole Grace thing. What he was trying 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.640 to get with grace. He wants to make sure that, Okay, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.600 I don't upset my fans that think that these protests 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.120 are wrong. And oh, by the way, I don't want 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.160 to upset my fans who were saying, you know, I 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.000 with the players want to kneel and I want to 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.200 support that. He's trying to have it both ways. He's 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.679 trying to be a businessman that makes all of his 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.680 customers happy, which you cannot do in this situation. You 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.640 do have to choose a side here, and that's where 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.760 Jerry's trying not to do. He's trying not to prove it. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.920 He's trying not to choose the side. And I feel 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.160 like the players are also trying to do that same thing. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.200 We want to do something united, and we want to 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.840 do something where we make everyone happy and nobody feels uncomfortable. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.560 Somebody's got feel uncomfortable. Okay, that's a bottom. You're going 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.280 to make people feel uncomfortable. I'll tell you this. Listen 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.160 at the rates going and what we're hearing from some 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.200 of these NFL teams and players, the hand will be forced. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.800 Imagine playing the New York Giants and you go out 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.240 there for warm ups, and you go out there for 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.760 the game, and that team doesn't come out, and you 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.360 out there with your helming on, you gass though ready 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.080 running out there eleven personnel, and everybody else in the 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.680 league it's not playing. You will be the outlier in 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.600 your side will be chosen. That is a picture that 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.160 I hope we don't see what the Cowboys, But like 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.120 I said, I don't believe that we were going the 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.800 other duration. But then we're focusing on the season while 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.120 all these other people are focusing on human rights well 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:12.640 having conversations though. So yeah, Danny, I come back to 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:18.600 this of what you just spoke about the Giants, Um, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.920 what about the Orlando Magic who was they were put 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.080 in that very situation this week where they're out there 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.080 warming up and the Bucks don't come. How did you 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.480 view Orlando in that situation? Yeah? I see, But I 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.320 think that's a little different because that was the first. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.160 This is this is the first that has happened. I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.720 believe that that they followed suit and they were kind 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.000 of caught off guard. I don't think the Cowboys would 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.320 be caught off guard. I think it will be. It 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.000 will be known that the other football team will not 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.640 be coming out if they're if they're not going to 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.040 show up and they're gonna boycott and not play, and 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.040 then the Cowboys will be forced to make the decision 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.800 to either go out there and play or say we're 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.000 standing with the rest of the league or the rest 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.400 of the players who aren't going out there in boycott. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.160 And then you will have to make that decision. And 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.120 we'll see and that will be the picture. Are we 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.640 out the eleven person they're going against ourselves, or are 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.920 we saying we're boycotting as well because we see what's 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:14.800 going on is wrong. Game one is against the Los 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.480 Angeles Rams on NBC Sunday Night Football, Sunday Night Football. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.400 That's it. Everybody else's played that day. That means you 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.560 are the last and final game. That game will be 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.640 in Inglewood, California, at the brand new SOFI Stadium. And 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.280 I'm gonna be honest with you, Danny, I don't see 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:35.120 either squad having fifty three guys all say I'm not 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.840 gonna play today. I just don't see that from NFL players. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.920 I don't see them doing that. I don't see their 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.800 them having enough guys and all say yeah, I'll go 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.840 along with this. I don't either. I don't see yeah, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.120 I don't either. I don't see this both teams. Like 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.200 you said on Sunday Night Football on one of the 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.440 prime time stages of the NFL as Week one kicks off, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.120 you know, I'm sorry, I just don't see either of 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.200 those teams I'm taking a knee or taking any type 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.760 of protest towards this situation. Okay, look at it from 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.440 this point of view, right, So I don't see it 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.320 happened in Week one unless another black man or black 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.760 person gets killed right before the game in Week one. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.840 History shows us that sometimes throughout the season there will 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:22.000 possibly be another racial injustice or police brutality incident that happens, 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.600 and then the NFL and the players will have to 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.560 react to it. So I see it happening if we 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.000 have another incident like just happened, and if it doesn't, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.760 then yeah, all the teams, everybody will play. But I think, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.760 you know, this will be a kind of kind of 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.760 died down and emotions would be not as high as 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.879 they work come Week one. But if we have another 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.800 one of these issues, then I can see that happened. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.479 I can see teams not showing all fifty three guys saying, hey, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.440 we're not going out there to play. Okay, we're cray, 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.080 I'm gonna throw this check, all right, anybody is thinking 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:57.040 about not playing an NFL game. We all know dudes 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.239 are paid week to week. So you're talking about being 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.480 up a check. And most of these guys, unless you 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.080 got you a huge roster bonus, or you got yourself 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.520 when you signed your contract, you got a nice fat 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.480 salary of some salary up front here guarantee you're making 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.320 your money week to week. How many guys were really 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:22.280 willing to go out here sacrifice a check. That's something 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.560 I don't really see happening. I don't see that happening. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.720 I really don't. I really don't. When you're talking about 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.640 sixteen weeks and then that, and we don't know how 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.240 many weeks they're gonna actually get in because of COVID. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:39.200 So so let's see this. So the NBA games were postponed, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.160 not canceled, So I don't see them giving up checks. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.080 And I don't see the NFL straight up cancel in 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.640 the game. I see them if this happens, they will 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.240 postpone or they will make their money on that game. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.760 So don't I don't see it happening like that. And 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.760 we've seen some of the players willing to set out 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:59.000 of mischecks based on COVID, so it's not impossible. And 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.160 how many guys that you need to sit out before 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.160 you can't play a game. I'm sure somebody had figured 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.199 out out to do the numbers, and they'll get a 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.119 group of guys who say, hey, we're not getting it, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.119 or you might get some guys to follow suit, just 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.440 like they did and when they called out the commissioner 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.560 in the NFL with Colin Kaepernick, and you get a 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.080 group of leaders from each team and they speak up 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.280 and then everybody follow suit. Let's not it's not impossible. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.160 Things are changing and we'll see how this thing pans 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.439 out during the season. I pray that we don't have 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.560 another issue like we did, but history is it's showing 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.679 that this is starting to happen more frequently than not. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.000 All right, I want to go back to what I 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.320 saw in the NBA where they said that the Clippers 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:41.320 and Lakers had voted them amongst themselves to cancel the 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.040 rest of the playoffs. Then the next day the players 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.560 come out and say, no, we're not canceling the playoffs. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.480 And later on I read about how the NBA ownership said, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.439 if you guys end up saying it's over, we're going 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.399 to be reducing salaries twenty five to It's amazing howbody 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.240 decided not, but we're gonna play. When you talk about 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.320 reducing salaries twenty five because this is a pandemic, Okay, 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.080 I mean so, so once again, I go back to this, Danny. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.920 It's idealism. Hey, look, you know we're not gonna play, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.480 but the realism is you're not gonna get paid. And 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.160 guys have bills and we know that they're guys on 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.720 this football team, and across the league, some of the 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.600