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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. You know you're in

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show. We like to talk about sports.

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Speaker 1: But when you say sports is like you tell people

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Speaker 1: what's your show about? Like, I don't know sports ish.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. This is from Pro Football Talk

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Speaker 1: YouTube in Fox face the termination of the agreement on

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Speaker 1: August twenty seventh. August twenty seventh, that's tomorrow and tomorrow

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Speaker 1: by the way, like Oklahoma State plays tomorrow. I think

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Speaker 1: we know it's stay Tuesday. What day is today? Gotam?

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Speaker 1: So today's Tuesday? So they play, So tomorrow is the day,

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Speaker 1: but the games are start Thursday. So interesting timing, right,

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Speaker 1: interesting timing. Interesting. Here's the quote from you to TV.

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Speaker 1: If we're able to reach an agreement with Fox by

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Speaker 1: August twenty seven, twenty twenty five their content. If we're

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Speaker 1: unable to reach an agreement, their content may become unavailable.

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Speaker 1: If this happens, it'll impact channels like Fox Broadcast Network,

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Speaker 1: Fox News, Fox Sports, as well as any library recordings

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Speaker 1: you have from these channels. Right, so if you've recorded

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Speaker 1: any of these that could go away as well. If

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Speaker 1: the channel is not available for extending period of time,

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Speaker 1: subscribers will receive a ten dollars credit. Extended is not defined. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So remember Fox won't have NFL games until September seventh,

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Speaker 1: so they got some time. But the college games is

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Speaker 1: a really big part of the platform, especially you got

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Speaker 1: what Ohios Date Texas and Big Neon Kickoff that's Saturday

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Speaker 1: at noon. Fox doesn't have a big platform national NFL

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Speaker 1: game until Week two, that's when the Chiefs host the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be done by then. This does feel

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Speaker 1: like every year on repeat. I'll take you back. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had Mark Shapiro on the show last week. Mark

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Speaker 1: you know when Mark was at ESPN, they used to say,

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Speaker 1: you're not never allowed to say the word a la carte.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's three words. Can't say any

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Speaker 1: of them a la carte. And back then the cable

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Speaker 1: bundle was everything. ESPN had over one hundrellion subscribers. They're

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Speaker 1: charging over six dollars a subscription that six billion dollars

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Speaker 1: made before any ad was sold. Those were the glory days.

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Speaker 1: Now they have in the sixties, they're charging a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. I think it's like eight dollars. But you

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Speaker 1: do the math. You can't overcome the law that loss

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Speaker 1: of subscribers and get you back to the level of

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Speaker 1: six billion or eight billion or whatever billion dollars. Right.

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Speaker 1: So we have these streaming companies and how many streaming services.

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Speaker 1: We joke with Ilo about how he bootlegs them. Jace

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Speaker 1: do how many streaming companies do you employ?

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Speaker 2: Just all of them? All the majors you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Hulu and Netflix and Prime YouTube TV, all

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Speaker 1: Really, Peacock, Copple, TV.

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Speaker 2: Peak, Couple TV, Apple, Peacock.

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Speaker 3: Paramount, MGM plus Reereamount plus HBO Max.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Our point we're getting at here is this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous, Doug.

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Speaker 1: No, I know it is. I know it's ridiculous. My

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Speaker 1: question is you pay for all of those?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's your monthly TV cable bill?

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked recently, but I mean, just doing the

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to bring up because for the

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Speaker 4: average intensive sports fan, who let's say, for the average

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Speaker 4: combined amount of all their subscriptions, how does that compare

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Speaker 4: with maybe what their cable bill was, say five years ago,

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be higher, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: YouTube TV started in twenty seventeen. February of twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: it was thirty five dollars a month. It's now eighty

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Speaker 3: I don't buy all the service, as A'm joking, but

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Speaker 3: if you buy YouTube TV, that's eighty three. I do Peacock,

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Speaker 4: I will say this, Sam Lotte, you do have to

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I will, Isaac. But I'll let you know

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Speaker 3: when I change it so you can keep using my service.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna say a word that I

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Speaker 1: TV streaming. Anybody have a friend with the jail breaker?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's always called a jailbreaker. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: That sounds like some early nineties technology, Like there's somebody

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Speaker 3: you up, give me one hundred and fifty on the side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get it. You get everything, You get everything, everything,

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Speaker 1: everything and things you don't want. Well, I don't have that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't have that. I'll tell you what I have.

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Speaker 1: I have YouTube TV. And I think I I got

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Speaker 1: YouTube TV because I needed like basic, you know, local channels,

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Speaker 3: But internet you need you need to pay for the

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Speaker 1: But then you convince yourself that, well I had to

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Speaker 3: But with cable, it's like you have you know, it's bundled.

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Speaker 3: You have the cable, maybe you have Internet, and then

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Speaker 1: So yes, but on all these shows you can't get

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's maddening, it really is. And then with this,

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Speaker 3: going to Kinnick Stadium to play Iowa, And what game

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Speaker 3: is that channel on? It's on FS one. This happens

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Speaker 1: It's frustrating every single year, to.

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Speaker 2: Be honest, it's been two years. Uh, last year was

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Speaker 1: No. But I'm sure, if we went back there was

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Speaker 3: Right, it seems like it's one of the major networks

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Speaker 3: and it's come to a standoff. It's on, it's at

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Speaker 3: a standoff with some streaming provider, some streaming platform.

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Speaker 1: I bet jay Stu if you googled, you know, like

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Speaker 1: this is a yearly thing.

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Speaker 2: I think you're conflating DirecTV directory of the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Though, Oh okay, you okay, you're talking about YouTube. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just YouTube. My point is the standoff that that that

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Speaker 4: It's the media equivalent of an NFL preseason holdout.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is,

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Speaker 1: and it's like it's a lot, it's almost it's the

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Speaker 1: get your channels right now, and they're like, well, we're

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Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna agree to a deal. Nobody just walks

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Speaker 3: Well, they get consumers involved. They turn one side, will

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Speaker 3: It'll be like, uh, direct TV customers call up your

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Speaker 3: They get people to complain on Twitter or or cancel

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Speaker 1: Might be I think I think this would be. This

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Speaker 1: I I'm gonna hypothesize for a second. Okay, why did Jase,

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Speaker 2: Because at the time it was free now free, but

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Speaker 2: That's how they drew us all.

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Speaker 1: So what if that goes away for a week? But

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Speaker 2: I think that there's I go to my son who

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Speaker 1: In perpetuity or or in cana.

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Speaker 2: You fill the gap. You know that all of us

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Speaker 2: And that's what that's why what YouTube TV will fear

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Speaker 1: it for red zone, ESPN gets red zone? What next

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Speaker 1: year doesn't get it this year? Is it this year?

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Speaker 1: next year. When ESPN takes over Red Zone, because it

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Speaker 1: will substantially devalue whatever red Zone package you have, because

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Speaker 1: But what's really it's evolved into it's way more expensive

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottliebes Show Fox Sports Radio. Do. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna tell you guys, we have our guys getting

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey and Taylor Shift are engaged. I'm sure by

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Speaker 1: Are you a fan of live mascots at college football games.

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Speaker 5: their development. So we'll see who the Browns you know,

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Speaker 5: choose choose to start the season. My guess, Flaco. We'll

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Speaker 5: see who the Browns decide to make their number one backup,

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Speaker 5: and we'll also see if they're splitting reps between the

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Speaker 5: backup quarterbacks on the scout team and if they're going

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Speaker 5: to keep that battle alive.

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Speaker 1: Rich Horberger's our guests. He's a pum NFL lineman. He

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Speaker 1: every weekend on Fox Sports Trade and Countdown to Kickoff

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Speaker 1: every Saturday. Right here on Fox Sports Radio, rit Rich,

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Speaker 1: let's bounce around a little bit. What Terry McLaurin back

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Speaker 1: with the Commanders. Not really a surprise, I guess the

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Speaker 1: question is can the Commanders take another step? They surprised

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Speaker 1: a lot of people last year, but sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: that sophomore slump. What's your outlook for this team?

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Speaker 5: Well, my outlook for the team is the vision is

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Speaker 5: still a hard division. Now, I understand you look at

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Speaker 5: the Giants and maybe the state of the disrepair that

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Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys are in, and you say, well, how

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Speaker 5: different is it from last year. Well, there's a new

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Speaker 5: sheriff in town in terms of quarterback in New York.

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Speaker 5: We'll see how that all pans out for the Giants

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Speaker 5: and the Dallas Cowboys, I think from a town standpoint,

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Speaker 5: are still a dangerous team. And then, like you said, now,

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Speaker 5: there's a full season of tape on Jaden Daniels, who

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Speaker 5: had a standout season as a rookie, but can he

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Speaker 5: repeat that success. They're going to be playing against a

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Speaker 5: much harder schedule this year. This is going to be

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Speaker 5: a very, very different season from a lot of different

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Speaker 5: standpoints for the Washington Commanders. I'm not going to say

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Speaker 5: that anything was gifted to them. I think they earned everything,

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Speaker 5: and I think putting a lot of trust into you

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Speaker 5: know who turned out to be a very quarterback ready

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Speaker 5: or excuse me, NFL ready, pro ready quarterback in their

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Speaker 5: rookie last year was a good choice. But it is

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Speaker 5: very difficult to replicate success at the NFL level for

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Speaker 5: two reasons. One, Obviously, sustaining in the league is a

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Speaker 5: real difficulty, especially when you're a mobile quarterback at that position,

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Speaker 5: that can become an issue. Two, let's face it, these

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinators are really, really talented, and that's the reason

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Speaker 5: why they're on pro staffs. These guys are going to

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Speaker 5: dedicate nights and days and sacrifice time with their family

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Speaker 5: and weeks preparing for each individual opponent. Daniels kept a

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Speaker 5: lot of coordinators up late at night during the season

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Speaker 5: last year, but you're reacting on the fly come game week.

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Speaker 5: Now you have a full off season to take a

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Speaker 5: look at what happened, especially these indivision opponents. Life's gonna

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Speaker 5: get much tougher, and we'll see how he responds.

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Speaker 1: Mich Ormberger is our guest here on the Doug Outleab

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. What who won in the

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson hold in, Boy, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think anybody wins. Be honest with you, and maybe

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Speaker 5: that is the correct answer to a good negotiation. When

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Speaker 5: when everybody walks away feeling dissatisfied, maybe that's that's the

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Speaker 5: ear mark of a good negotiation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I sort of feel like the Cincinnati Bengals are notoriously

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Speaker 5: cheap organization. I mean, boomer assized him was talking about

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Speaker 5: how when he was inducted into the Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 5: uh that he had to pay for his hotel, room

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Speaker 5: and flight. You know, you're you're you're you're you're you

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Speaker 5: are who you are, and your players will respect you

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Speaker 5: based on your level of commitment as an ownership or

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Speaker 5: a franchise. And free agents they're watching. So when a

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Speaker 5: great free agent becomes available and they see the way,

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Speaker 5: especially on the defensive side of the ball, with them

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Speaker 5: being as loaded up on the offensive side as they are,

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Speaker 5: and understanding some of those contracts that are coming to

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Speaker 5: you know, their willingness to go over to Cincinnati and play,

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Speaker 5: you know, in Middle America, cold Weather City, not necessarily

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Speaker 5: one of these coastal spots that people are excited to

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Speaker 5: play in like Miami or the two teams in LA

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Speaker 5: or the two teams in New York. I mean, very

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Speaker 5: different mindset going to Cincinnati. Is that something you want

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Speaker 5: to do with this franchise? And the answer for a

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Speaker 5: lot of available free agents, especially on the defensive side

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Speaker 5: of the ball, may say no. So you got to

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Speaker 5: be careful how you present yourself to the rest of

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Speaker 5: the league and it's players when you enter contract negotiations

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Speaker 5: with a player. So you have to round back to

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Speaker 5: the way I answer the question. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 5: wins this. This feels close to the initial offer for

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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals, per Tray, and in terms of the Bengals,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it portrays them in a favorable light.

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Speaker 5: For the rest of the players in the NFL, I.

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Speaker 1: Agree with you that the only contrast to that with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals is they did pay everybody else, they just

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Speaker 1: didn't pay this guy and they're paying them thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars for a year. It's nothing beyond beyond this year.

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Speaker 1: It's just the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Who's a team we should be talking about? And I

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Speaker 1: say that rich because I mean, we try not to be,

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Speaker 1: but we still get. The Micah Parsons story lures us

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Speaker 1: into talk Cowboys, the Shador Sanders thing lures us into

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Speaker 1: talk Browns. These are not championship teams. Nobody thinks they are.

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Speaker 1: Who's the best team we don't we talk about the least?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's the Patriots, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: because of their recent history ever since Brady left and

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Speaker 5: then obviously things falling apart at the end of the

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Speaker 5: Belichick era and bouncing back from a draft pick that

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Speaker 5: didn't work out and moving on to Drake may a

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Speaker 5: year ago with Girod Mayo at head coach. I think

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Speaker 5: the culture has been stabilized with Mike Rabel there is

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent an adult back in the room at

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Speaker 5: the coaching position. And this is no shade to Gerrod Mayo.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a tremendous coordinator in the league, and

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Speaker 5: I hope he gets another chance at head coach because

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Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes the second time around, you can

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Speaker 5: take some of the failings or the mistakes you made

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Speaker 5: the first time around and turn those into successes. So

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Speaker 5: I do hope he gets another opportunity to take a

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Speaker 5: spin on that roulette wheel and there's only thirty two,

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Speaker 5: you know, spots where that ball can fall. But getting

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Speaker 5: back to Rabel and Drake May, I think in this

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Speaker 5: league you need to have two positions with special talent

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Speaker 5: in order to win at any level, you know, especially

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Speaker 5: at the playoff level, and that is a great head

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Speaker 5: coach and a great quarterback. I think Drake May is

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Speaker 5: a burgeoning great at the position. Will he be a

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Speaker 5: top ten guy?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see. Do I think he can be

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Speaker 5: a top ten guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I do.

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Speaker 5: I'm impressed with what I've seen from him so far.

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Speaker 5: And then in terms of Mike Rabel, we've seen him

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Speaker 5: do really great things with much less talent at quarterback

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Speaker 5: than he has currently in New England, and he's got

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Speaker 5: a really good defense. From a personnel standpoint, I think

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Speaker 5: the New England Patriots is a team We're.

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Speaker 1: Not talking about enough awesome stuff. Rich Hornberger. You can

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Speaker 1: hear weekdays on Fox Sports Tradio on Countdown to Kickoff. Rich,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: to Isaac Lohencron and the press.

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Speaker 4: The press, all right, Doug, Rookie Shador Sanders officially made

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns fifty three man roster, and we'll serve

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Speaker 4: as the third string quarterback behind starter Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 4: backup Dylan Gabriel. According to head coach Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, listen, it's gonna be really interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: Can can Kevin Stefanski just coached the team and not

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Speaker 1: have the noise of the third string quarterback? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look, I think we all have. It's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Like Shador Sanders probably has more top end talent than

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel looks way better as far as

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quickly, you know, seeing it,

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Speaker 1: throwing it, moving within the moving up in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: But this is I think trading Kenny Pickett was not

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Speaker 1: the plan. The plan was the draft one. Probably Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel making the third string. Kenny Pickett is the backup,

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Speaker 1: and then if they could get Gabriel along, maybe a

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Speaker 1: third string quarterback gets them through for a couple of

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Speaker 1: years while they reload the roster. If they don't, well,

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Speaker 1: now they go and draft somebody with their two first

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Speaker 1: round draft picks next year. Okay, so that plan changed

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Speaker 1: when they drafted Shador Again, the question is can they

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Speaker 1: still get to the plants or can they win with Flacco?

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Speaker 1: You know, the great thing about Flacco is he knows

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Speaker 1: who he is. He knows who he is.

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Speaker 4: NFL media reports that the Los Angeles Chargers are moving

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Speaker 4: running back Naji Harris from the non football injury list

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Speaker 4: to the active roster. Harris missed training camp and the

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Speaker 4: preseason due to an eye injury sustained in a fourth

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Speaker 4: of July fireworks mishap.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, Oh yeah, I mean JPP and him,

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Speaker 1: they're the two most known NFL players and they're dealings

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Speaker 1: with with fireworks. So when will he play Week five?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, if it was injured reserve,

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Speaker 4: it would be a minimum of four, So I think

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Speaker 4: you know, consider a w.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nuts, I thought when that story first came out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the agent statement said nothing to worry about, he'll be

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Speaker 2: back for camp. Actually, are you to say that we're

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Speaker 2: not supposed to trust what agents tell us.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I do have some audio of that statement. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 3: To see here, very good.

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Speaker 1: Well, they are coming out with a new naked gun.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's it's been out for a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's any goodbody seen it.

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Speaker 3: I've heard it's great.

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Speaker 2: I've heard it's great.

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Speaker 4: But I'm too really, I'm too cheap.

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Speaker 1: I saw f one. It was really good.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, Okay, really good good. New Orleans Saints head

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Speaker 4: coach Kellen Moore announced that Spencer Rattler will be the

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Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback for the Saints. Rookie Tyler Schuck

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Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean listen, Tyler Shuck did he played

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Speaker 1: like seven years in college. He'd been injured a ton.

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Speaker 1: Those are two guys with interesting journeys, both really heavily

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Speaker 1: recruited guys. Rattler was the one who got replaced by

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Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams three games in they went to South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: had a good career, been a league for a year. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: like we all know this is this appears to be

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Speaker 1: all smoke screen. Let's just get through the next year, right,

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Speaker 1: just get through next year. On the other hand, here's

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Speaker 1: one he is a former Oklahoma quarterback, right, and so

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Speaker 1: you got Baker Mayfield in that division. Sure, what happens

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Speaker 1: with Carolina is interesting? Oh yeah, there's there's there's a

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Speaker 1: team that I think they're very good and we never

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Speaker 1: talk about, but still interesting.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think with Carolina the most interesting things

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Speaker 2: still a year later, is that, remember what's the what's

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Speaker 2: the name of their head coach?

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: It's Dave kN Dave Canellis. Remember after he got hired,

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Speaker 2: he came out and he said that he had like

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Speaker 2: a devastating porn addiction. And I'm like, how are we

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Speaker 2: just learning about this? Why isn't that brought up more?

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Speaker 2: I did not Fox Sports announces him on the football

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Speaker 2: They should have that in the notes.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I never heard of that and I

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Speaker 4: just googled it right now and infidelity and not only

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Speaker 4: is it true, it was announced on January thirtieth, twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. So boy, you want to you want to

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Speaker 4: talk about slipping out of the cracks. The book entitled

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Speaker 4: and by the way, this is unfortunately considering the top

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Speaker 4: news of the day. The book quote titled this marriage

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Speaker 4: question mark the question that changed everything. Unquote boy whatever,

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Speaker 4: that'll be on the reading list of some recent engaged people. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: all right, boy took a turn. Final item on this

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Speaker 4: edition of the press. You could always count on Jason

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Speaker 4: for those kinds of keep.

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Speaker 3: It keep us steady here, Isaac, keep us afloat all right, don't.

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Speaker 2: You might?

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Speaker 4: This might be the time where I slip up.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: So for some of our younger listeners, the given name

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Speaker 4: of Babe Ruth was George Herman Ruth, So keep that

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Speaker 4: in mind, because a sixty nine year old Tennessee man

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Speaker 4: named George Herman Ruth has been indicted on ninety one

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Speaker 4: counts of mail fraud, identity theft, and other charges for

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Speaker 4: allegedly using the names of hundreds of deceased and retired

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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball players. Justice Department claims that George Herman

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Speaker 4: Ruth located pending class action lawsuits and fraudulently used the

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Speaker 4: names of hundreds of deceased or retired players in an

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Speaker 4: elaborate nationwide scheme. George Herman, ruth the Great Shambano.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a real story.

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Speaker 2: That's a real story, Babe.

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Speaker 3: How do you that's like too smart. I couldn't even

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Speaker 3: understand how to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's like catch me if your can stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess he called his shot. Heyo, he was really,

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Speaker 4: he was, really, Babe, ruthless. All right, that's the press bag.

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Speaker 4: Get out there and pressed. That was the press.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Dodgers must have won, because no no whining

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Speaker 1: from Jasu. Back tomorrow. Check out the podcast doug out

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