1
00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

2
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160
Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck

3
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I

4
00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,560
Speaker 1: want to encourage all of us to remember and honor

5
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,319
Speaker 1: the sacrifices that have been made by so many to

6
00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,919
Speaker 1: protect and preserve the United States. Today is a special day.

7
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,759
Speaker 1: We remember those we lost as a result of the

8
00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,680
Speaker 1: attacks on our country on September eleventh, two thousand and one.

9
00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,480
Speaker 1: That day, we lost two nine hundred and seventy seven Americans.

10
00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,800
Speaker 1: We hear so many stories of heroism from that day,

11
00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,959
Speaker 1: the man in the red bandana, the volunteer, the off

12
00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,480
Speaker 1: duty firefighters who rushed to the scenes, and the neighbors

13
00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,480
Speaker 1: and civilians who faced horror like we have never seen.

14
00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,480
Speaker 1: Frank Siller has one of his own stories of heroism

15
00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,199
Speaker 1: from that day. Frank is the founder, chairman, and CEO

16
00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,320
Speaker 1: of Tunnel to Towers Foundation, which was starting in remembrance

17
00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,280
Speaker 1: of his little brother, Stephen, a New York City Fire

18
00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640
Speaker 1: Department firefighter who gave his life on nine to eleven.

19
00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,399
Speaker 1: Before I bring Frank in with me, I want to

20
00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,720
Speaker 1: first tell you about a great product that I have

21
00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,759
Speaker 1: in my home called in virol Clans. When you think

22
00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,640
Speaker 1: about the air in your home, ask yourself if all

23
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,680
Speaker 1: home air purifiers are the same, why did the US

24
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Department of Defense select in Viral Clans to protect and

25
00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,640
Speaker 1: purify the air on board our navy ships. We use

26
00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,920
Speaker 1: it in our house because one of my girls suffers

27
00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,919
Speaker 1: from severe seasonal allergies. It's really changed her life. This season.

28
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,680
Speaker 1: This is the time when she starts to really get

29
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,600
Speaker 1: the swollen eyes, the headaches, the bloody noses, and this

30
00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,520
Speaker 1: year we haven't had any of that. I even asked

31
00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 1: her the other day and she was like, no, Mom,

32
00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080
Speaker 1: it's been great. That's because in Viral Clans uses patented

33
00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,320
Speaker 1: earth mineral technology and a hospital grade hepafilter. This technology

34
00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,680
Speaker 1: is so powerful. It destroys cold and flu viruses and COVID.

35
00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,840
Speaker 1: I know you all want to hear that, and of

36
00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 1: course those allergy inflaming toxins and mold and even more.

37
00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320
Speaker 1: Their hospital grade technology is so powerful. Like I said,

38
00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,160
Speaker 1: it's used on nameaby ships and thousands of classrooms. The

39
00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,680
Speaker 1: enviro clones promises far fewer colds and allergies, better sleep,

40
00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960
Speaker 1: and you're going to receive a free air quality monitor

41
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,679
Speaker 1: with your purchase. Honestly test the difference in your home.

42
00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,720
Speaker 1: It's been great for us. Visit Ekpere dot com use

43
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,399
Speaker 1: code Dixon for ten percent off your Enviral Clones air

44
00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,200
Speaker 1: home purifier unit and free air quality monitor plus fast

45
00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,160
Speaker 1: free shipping. That's one hundred and fifty dollars savings. It's

46
00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Ekpere dot Com Code Dixon, Ekpre dot Com Code Dixon.

47
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,920
Speaker 1: Now I want to welcome Frank Seller onto the podcast.

48
00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today on this

49
00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,240
Speaker 1: day that, like I said before we got in on here,

50
00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,760
Speaker 1: all of us remember this day who lived through it,

51
00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,480
Speaker 1: All of us remember the devastation and watching. For those

52
00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,200
Speaker 1: of us who were there in person watching it happen,

53
00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,120
Speaker 1: and for those of us that were watching it on TV,

54
00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,920
Speaker 1: will never forget. But for you it's different.

55
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,359
Speaker 2: You.

56
00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I've never actually heard your story. I've seen you on

57
00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,040
Speaker 1: TV a million times. I knew that you had that

58
00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800
Speaker 1: your brother, you had lost your brother, not heard that

59
00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,520
Speaker 1: you were going golfing that morning, that that was your plan.

60
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 2: Yes, So twenty two years ago today, my brother Stephen

61
00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 2: was just finished his night tour in squad Wan in Brooklyn,

62
00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 2: which is an elite firehouse. They trained for terrorism, and

63
00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,360
Speaker 2: they trained to rescue other firefighters. And he just finished

64
00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,120
Speaker 2: his store. He was driving on his way home. He's

65
00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 2: going to play golf with myself, my brother George, and

66
00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,519
Speaker 2: my brother Russ. And he heard on the radio scan

67
00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,000
Speaker 2: of what, you know, the tablets were hit. So, you know,

68
00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,720
Speaker 2: what do these great heroes do. They turn around, they go.

69
00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920
Speaker 3: He went back to his firehouse, he got his gear.

70
00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,200
Speaker 2: His fire company would already responded, you know, to the

71
00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,560
Speaker 2: call to duty. And so he got his gear and

72
00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,800
Speaker 2: drove to the mouth of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. If

73
00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,640
Speaker 2: you listeners who don't know, that tunnel connects Brooklyn with

74
00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,840
Speaker 2: downtown Manhattan. It's almost two miles long. It was closed

75
00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,360
Speaker 2: for security reasons. You know, people already banding their cars

76
00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,280
Speaker 2: in there, and they didn't weren't letting anyone go in

77
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,400
Speaker 2: towards the Manhattan obviously for obvious reasons. So he pulled

78
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,240
Speaker 2: over his truck, got out, put his sixty pounds of

79
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,120
Speaker 2: fire gear on his back, and ran through that tunnel

80
00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,720
Speaker 2: up West Street to what we believe he ran into

81
00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,120
Speaker 2: the South Tower because that's where his other firefighter buddies

82
00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,480
Speaker 2: were recovered later on, and I'm sure he found out

83
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,719
Speaker 2: that he knew that his firefighter guys that he trained

84
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,080
Speaker 2: with every day were in the South Tower. So that's

85
00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,159
Speaker 2: where you'd want to go and rescue people and be

86
00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,039
Speaker 2: around the people you train with every day. And while

87
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,120
Speaker 2: going up those stairs and saving others, he gave up

88
00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,680
Speaker 2: his life. And when we heard the story of what

89
00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,039
Speaker 2: my brother did that day, I didn't you know, we

90
00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 2: didn't know, you know that for sure that he died

91
00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,680
Speaker 2: on nine to eleven on twenty two years ago, you know,

92
00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,720
Speaker 2: when the South Tower came down. Actually I felt inside

93
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,520
Speaker 2: that I did lose my brother. At that point, I

94
00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,320
Speaker 2: remember turning to my mother in law and saying, hey, Nancy,

95
00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,960
Speaker 2: I think I just lost my brother.

96
00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:09,839
Speaker 1: Wow.

97
00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,960
Speaker 2: Not knowing that he got there, I had no idea,

98
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,960
Speaker 2: you know that. You know. I kept on saying, well,

99
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,600
Speaker 2: maybe he couldn't get there, and maybe the towers came

100
00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,520
Speaker 2: down before he got there. You know, I was praying,

101
00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,839
Speaker 2: and you know, but to go back to that, you know,

102
00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,200
Speaker 2: that day twenty two years ago, and I'll just for

103
00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,240
Speaker 2: your listeners to understand what all nine love families are

104
00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,719
Speaker 2: going through that day. So I found out that my

105
00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,200
Speaker 2: brother was on a list of missing firefighters, and I

106
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,320
Speaker 2: was going to different firehouses, and I actually was preparing

107
00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,840
Speaker 2: to go to ground zero myself with a company out

108
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,120
Speaker 2: of Staten allan Call Rescue five. You know, all these

109
00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,360
Speaker 2: guys all my life, you know, Staten anam's a really

110
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,760
Speaker 2: blue collar you know, copspyfighters and all that kind of stuff.

111
00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,560
Speaker 3: And and so.

112
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,920
Speaker 2: But eventually I realized that they was so horrific. I

113
00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,120
Speaker 2: had my siblings come over my house. So Stephen was

114
00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,680
Speaker 2: the youngest of seven kids and and he was a

115
00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,200
Speaker 2: father of five. So I start to have him come

116
00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 2: to my house. And later in the afternoon, a friend

117
00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,520
Speaker 2: of my brother's, a firefighter, Richie Obermiah, who actually lived

118
00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,159
Speaker 2: two doors away from my brother on Staten Island, called

119
00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,880
Speaker 2: me up and said, hey, Frank, this is Richie. You

120
00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,800
Speaker 2: know I'm down here at ground zero. I want you

121
00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,360
Speaker 2: to know that Steven's on the list of missing firefighters.

122
00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,360
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, Richie, I knew that. Thank you

123
00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,240
Speaker 2: for calling me. You know, I've been trying to call Stephen,

124
00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, trying to contact him. And he goes, well,

125
00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,400
Speaker 2: you know, he's on that list, and I want to

126
00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,279
Speaker 2: let you know that it's really bad. Down here, and

127
00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,200
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, Richie, I could see it's bad. I'm

128
00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,240
Speaker 2: here with my family, My sisters are here, my brothers

129
00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,160
Speaker 2: are here. You know, I could see how bad he's

130
00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320
Speaker 2: He goes no, Frank gets bad. I said, rich I'm

131
00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,880
Speaker 2: looking at it. I see it's bad. He goes, no,

132
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,560
Speaker 2: you don't understand. Nobody's coming home. And I had to

133
00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,680
Speaker 2: get off the phone and tell my sisters and my

134
00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480
Speaker 2: brothers that, and you know, it really brought us to

135
00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,160
Speaker 2: our knees.

136
00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480
Speaker 3: My sister Gina was wailing.

137
00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,760
Speaker 2: And we were devastated, and you know, you know, we

138
00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,920
Speaker 2: didn't know one hundred percent he was gone at that point,

139
00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960
Speaker 2: but like I mentioned to you before, I felt he

140
00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200
Speaker 2: was gone, knowing that he had gotten there. And so

141
00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 2: it was a terrible day. But there was so many

142
00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,800
Speaker 2: acts of heroism. I heard you talked about the man

143
00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,840
Speaker 2: in the red bandana on your intro, and that Wells Crowther.

144
00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,960
Speaker 3: You know, I know his mom, you know I spoke

145
00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,320
Speaker 3: to her.

146
00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720
Speaker 2: If you go to our website, we have his story

147
00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880
Speaker 2: up there. Because there was so many acts of heroism

148
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,040
Speaker 2: that some are told, some on told that you know,

149
00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,720
Speaker 2: the people will never know about it. And so today

150
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,920
Speaker 2: we're remembering all twenty nine hundred and seventy seven souls

151
00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,360
Speaker 2: that were killed taken from us on that day.

152
00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,880
Speaker 1: The people who were going in that day, like your

153
00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,920
Speaker 1: brother Stephen, when they got that call, when they heard that.

154
00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember I walked. I was working in

155
00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,040
Speaker 1: Chicago at the time, and I took a train to

156
00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,640
Speaker 1: a bus to my building and I get off and

157
00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,200
Speaker 1: I go up to my building and they were just

158
00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960
Speaker 1: cops surrounding and they're like, you can't come in here.

159
00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,600
Speaker 1: This is you know, We've secured it. You're leaving, go home.

160
00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,440
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, the heck, what are you talking about?

161
00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, because you didn't have smartphones, you didn't know everything.

162
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't the detail wasn't right in front of you.

163
00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,880
Speaker 1: And even getting on that bus and I'm turning on

164
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000
Speaker 1: the radio and hearing the tower has fallen, my mind

165
00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,079
Speaker 1: could could not comprehend what that meant. You know, you can't.

166
00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,160
Speaker 1: You don't see it, you're hearing it. What did those

167
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,680
Speaker 1: people think that they were going to when your brother

168
00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,360
Speaker 1: rushed off? What did they think compared to what they saw?

169
00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,480
Speaker 2: I know exactly what they thought they were going to.

170
00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,160
Speaker 2: And I know this because I've spoken to so many

171
00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:08,520
Speaker 2: firefighters that survived that day, and I have accounts of

172
00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,439
Speaker 2: them saying goodbye, now, I'll see you later when they

173
00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,000
Speaker 2: were going in those buildings. And you have to know this,

174
00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,240
Speaker 2: and America shall never forget this, that those firefighters knew

175
00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,239
Speaker 2: there was a strong possibility that that was the last.

176
00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,400
Speaker 3: Moments they were going to live.

177
00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,800
Speaker 2: So did they know that, well, they my brother know

178
00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 2: that when he was running through the through the Brooklyn

179
00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,240
Speaker 2: Battery tunnel with his fire year on his back, you

180
00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,640
Speaker 2: know when he made that decision. No, did he know

181
00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,600
Speaker 2: when he went up to West Street and then when

182
00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,200
Speaker 2: he finally got to these.

183
00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,120
Speaker 3: To the towers, Yes, no doubt about it.

184
00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,680
Speaker 2: Because at that point people were already imagine, faced with

185
00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600
Speaker 2: this choice, the people above the fire line, and I

186
00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,560
Speaker 2: have to say this because it's a reality check for everybody,

187
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360
Speaker 2: the people above the fire line, which my heart breaks for,

188
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,320
Speaker 2: they were faced with two choices to burn or to jump,

189
00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,280
Speaker 2: And it was so sad to watching it. And if

190
00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000
Speaker 2: you're there, these firefighters that were there on the ground

191
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,480
Speaker 2: were seeing this happening. At this point, they knew it

192
00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,480
Speaker 2: was hell on earth at that moment, but they brought

193
00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:31,120
Speaker 2: such grace and courage and heroism to that day. I

194
00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400
Speaker 2: look at that day as one of the greatest acts

195
00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 2: of love ever that all those firefighters and police offers

196
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,040
Speaker 2: is and everyday people like Wells Crowd, the men of

197
00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,200
Speaker 2: the Red bandann Are, and so many other stories that

198
00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560
Speaker 2: they went in there to save people knowing there's a

199
00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,160
Speaker 2: strong possibility they were going to give up their lives,

200
00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640
Speaker 2: and so many of them did, and so many of

201
00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,920
Speaker 2: them did so. To answer your question, yeah, they knew

202
00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,880
Speaker 2: what they get what they were getting into.

203
00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,720
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

204
00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,240
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think we see those pictures

205
00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,720
Speaker 1: like the Falling Man, and it's interesting now because you know,

206
00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,320
Speaker 1: my kids, they didn't live through this, and we were there,

207
00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,320
Speaker 1: My sister was in New York City and we were

208
00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,520
Speaker 1: watching all of this happen, and it's just so exactly

209
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,800
Speaker 1: what you said, So powerful to think that they faced

210
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 1: a decision and they chose that because the other was

211
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360
Speaker 1: so horrific, knowing that there was no way out. But

212
00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I think we also see those pictures of like the

213
00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,080
Speaker 1: woman who was covered in dust walking down downtown, just

214
00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of aimlessly walking. And I remember my sister saying

215
00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760
Speaker 1: that that happened all day long. She just saw people

216
00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,559
Speaker 1: walking from ground zero up to up North in Manhattan,

217
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,000
Speaker 1: just kind of aimlessly with their their briefcase covered in

218
00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,480
Speaker 1: that dust. She was an an. She went back and

219
00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,920
Speaker 1: she was doing pro bono work getting people signed in

220
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,640
Speaker 1: and getting information from people. And she said, I can

221
00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: remember at the time sitting down at ground zero and

222
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,080
Speaker 1: she said, from the time it took me to fill

223
00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,120
Speaker 1: out one person's form, I would have to push all

224
00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,880
Speaker 1: the dust off and move to the next form. Because

225
00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,520
Speaker 1: even even weeks after the dust was falling, A lot

226
00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,920
Speaker 1: of people have been sick since then and they've and

227
00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200
Speaker 1: you support those people as well, because a lot of

228
00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960
Speaker 1: these people have gone through, these people that were heroes

229
00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,400
Speaker 1: and just people that lived down there. I mean, we

230
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,240
Speaker 1: really didn't know what the impact of this was. We've

231
00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,160
Speaker 1: never experienced anything like this in the history of the

232
00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760
Speaker 1: country before. What is it like for those people now?

233
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,640
Speaker 1: And how do you support those people that have gotten

234
00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,280
Speaker 1: this illness that is kind of this mysterious illness that

235
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040
Speaker 1: they've many people have been sick in different ways from

236
00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,840
Speaker 1: nine to eleven.

237
00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, so once again for your listeners to know that

238
00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,400
Speaker 2: tunnel to Twis Foundation, who I'm proud to say I'm

239
00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,760
Speaker 2: the CEO chairman of.

240
00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,840
Speaker 3: Takes care of every.

241
00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,320
Speaker 2: Cop, every firefighter, every first responder in America who dies

242
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,320
Speaker 2: in the line of duty, has young children left behind.

243
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,320
Speaker 2: We're going to deliver them a mortgage free home. If

244
00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,960
Speaker 2: they don't have a home, we're going to find them

245
00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,720
Speaker 2: at home. And if they do have home, and most

246
00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,319
Speaker 2: of them do, we're going to pay off their mortgage.

247
00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 2: We do that for gold Star widows, and we built

248
00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,079
Speaker 2: especially adapted smart homes for our country's most catastrophically injured

249
00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,320
Speaker 2: service members. But after nine to eleven, so many these

250
00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,080
Speaker 2: great heroes that were on that freaking pile looking for

251
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:45,000
Speaker 2: their brothers and their loved ones or just everybody who

252
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,760
Speaker 2: was missing. Because over you know, there was two thousand

253
00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,319
Speaker 2: and nine and seventy seven, as I mentioned.

254
00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,640
Speaker 3: Before, people died that day.

255
00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,080
Speaker 2: There was alose, so I think it's twelve hundred plus

256
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,080
Speaker 2: that were never recovered.

257
00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,000
Speaker 3: They were there trying to find them.

258
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,400
Speaker 2: The police officers, firefighters, people came from all over the

259
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:11,240
Speaker 2: United States. Your sister was there, Your sister had that

260
00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 2: dust coming on them, and they were all told not

261
00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,280
Speaker 2: to worry.

262
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,720
Speaker 3: Get pat it well.

263
00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,320
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, there's over the two hundred, three

264
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:27,200
Speaker 2: hundred and three hundred and thirty eighth firefighter who died

265
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,240
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven illnesses just died the other day.

266
00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800
Speaker 2: There's been over three hundred police officers who have died

267
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,120
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven illnesses. And if they have a

268
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,080
Speaker 2: young family left behind, because we're a first responder to

269
00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,680
Speaker 2: this foundation, we're going to take care of their families.

270
00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200
Speaker 2: We're going to pay off their mortgages. I have a

271
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,240
Speaker 2: friend of mine who I just visited just the other day,

272
00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,400
Speaker 2: Ace Candlon Mike Candon. But he was Ace to me

273
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,720
Speaker 2: growing up. We've been friends for sixty four years, all right,

274
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 2: since we've been since we've six years old, first grade.

275
00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000
Speaker 2: And his job he worked for Otis Elevator. His job

276
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,200
Speaker 2: was to go in after nine to eleven and clean

277
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,640
Speaker 2: out the soot inside the elevators. Chefs and now he

278
00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,040
Speaker 2: wore all the apparatus and everything. But it doesn't matter,

279
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,280
Speaker 2: just like we know, masks doesn't matter, right, you know

280
00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,640
Speaker 2: for other things.

281
00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,120
Speaker 3: Like cook and he wore the you know, he's dying.

282
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,480
Speaker 2: He's he's moments away from dying of nine to eleven

283
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,880
Speaker 2: cancer because of what he Inhaled and what it's gone

284
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,600
Speaker 2: through his body. It just keeps on taking so many people.

285
00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520
Speaker 2: It's the terrorist attack that keeps on killing. I know

286
00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,520
Speaker 2: that those who did this are smiling when that happens,

287
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,240
Speaker 2: and that's what we have to remember what we're up against.

288
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,320
Speaker 3: Always that they would love to do this again. They

289
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,960
Speaker 3: would love to instead of killing.

290
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,760
Speaker 2: They'd love as many zeros after that number that we

291
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,280
Speaker 2: give twenty nine hundred and seventy seven. If they put

292
00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800
Speaker 2: another zero on that, they would have been happier, and

293
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,200
Speaker 2: another zero they'd even been more happy. So this is

294
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,520
Speaker 2: what we're up against, and that's why we can't forget.

295
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,760
Speaker 2: We just can never forget that we are always going

296
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,400
Speaker 2: to be under assault and we have to always protect

297
00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:18,200
Speaker 2: our country. One last point here on that since nine

298
00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,360
Speaker 2: to eleven, over seven thousand men and women have died

299
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,600
Speaker 2: protecting us, so we didn't have to have another nine eleven.

300
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,280
Speaker 2: And so many bad things have happened obviously in Afghanistan,

301
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,880
Speaker 2: and withdrawal, all that kind of stuff sickens me, sickens me,

302
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320
Speaker 2: and all those families had to see that they lost

303
00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,440
Speaker 2: their loved ones. And this is how you're gonna come

304
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,360
Speaker 2: out of there. And and all the good.

305
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,800
Speaker 3: Work that we were doing there.

306
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,520
Speaker 2: But we got to remember those families that are left

307
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,080
Speaker 2: behind too, because they're part of all part of nine

308
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,560
Speaker 2: to eleven, because we wouldn't gone a war if it

309
00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,760
Speaker 2: wasn't for nine to eleven. And that's why our foundation

310
00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 2: takes care of all these gold Saw families that have

311
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,440
Speaker 2: given their lives, the loved ones, given their lives for

312
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,159
Speaker 2: our country and have young families, and a lot of

313
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,600
Speaker 2: them don't have houses because they move from base to

314
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,840
Speaker 2: base or whatever you know, may be and in their military.

315
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 2: And that's why we build them, you know, a gold

316
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840
Speaker 2: a widow and their children a mortgage free home. And

317
00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,080
Speaker 2: we're so proud of the work that would do. We're

318
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,320
Speaker 2: connected with our military because of what happened on nine

319
00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,960
Speaker 2: to eleven. First respond the same mentality anyway, the courage,

320
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,480
Speaker 2: the heroism is incredible.

321
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 1: You have so much support. You say, I mean, you're

322
00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,360
Speaker 1: passionate about this stuff, and you're passionate about the mistakes

323
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040
Speaker 1: that were made in Afghanistan. You've come out and you've

324
00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,520
Speaker 1: you've been very open about how you feel about this stuff.

325
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,080
Speaker 1: After nine to eleven, there was like this great uniting

326
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,480
Speaker 1: in the country like we've really not seen in decades.

327
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,119
Speaker 1: The country came together. There were people that were just

328
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,879
Speaker 1: pro America. Whatever it is, We're going to support America.

329
00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 1: And I think that when when it comes to Tunnel

330
00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,920
Speaker 1: to Towers, you still see that you've phraised over five

331
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 1: hundred million to support heroes and their families. And that

332
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: isn't coming from just one side that comes fro. I mean,

333
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,640
Speaker 1: I've seen you with celebrities, I've seen you with all

334
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,920
Speaker 1: kinds of people from different backgrounds who are just like, look,

335
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We support our heroes. How

336
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 1: do you keep that going? How in this world that

337
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359
Speaker 1: seems so divided right now? How do you keep that going?

338
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,479
Speaker 1: I love it, but I just what is that magic

339
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,800
Speaker 1: that you can keep that going?

340
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's great that you mentioned that because

341
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I am around great Americans

342
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,400
Speaker 2: all the time. I am so blessed. It's incredible.

343
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,160
Speaker 3: And they come to us.

344
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 2: You mentioned some of the celebrities you know, like Wohlberg,

345
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 2: Cole House.

346
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 3: Rob Load and It's Quay.

347
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's incredible. They come to us because they

348
00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 2: want to help and they believe in our mission. And

349
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 2: you know, whether they believe in our mission. It's very simple.

350
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,719
Speaker 2: Who couldn't believe and take care of these great families

351
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: are left behind? I think almost every American would believe

352
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 2: in that. I mean there's some crazies out there that

353
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 2: you know that I think America is terrible, you know,

354
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 2: shame on that. I mean, meanwhile, they live, they have

355
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 2: no idea, they live in the they take advantage of

356
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 2: everything that these our freedoms are given to us because

357
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 2: of these men and women who put it all on

358
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 2: the life for us every single day. But that's that's

359
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 2: the beauty of America. But yes, I'm around it all

360
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 2: the time.

361
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 3: And you know, so people do what they can do.

362
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 3: We ask everybody to do eleven dollars a month.

363
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 2: I mean, most people can do that and they know

364
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 2: that ninety five point one percent of every dollar that

365
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 2: they donate those to our you know, to our programs.

366
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 1: I think that's important because I think most people don't

367
00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 1: know that sometimes you can give money and that money

368
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: you're just giving a small portion of that money, but

369
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about ninety five cents on every dollar is

370
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: actually going to these families, going to the mission.

371
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 3: Right, It's not going in my pocket. That's for sure,

372
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't get paid. I'm proud of that. I'm a volunteer.

373
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: I have tens and tens of thousands of volunteers all

374
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: across America.

375
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 3: We have I think one hundred golf outings put on

376
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 3: for us this year.

377
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: David Wells, he's a pitcher, was a pitcher for the Yankees,

378
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 2: and while he joined a baseball player who's almost like

379
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame play for nineteen years. These guys

380
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: are putting on these celebrity golf outings and different golf

381
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: outings for us and raising so much money. But we

382
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: have over one hundred golf oundings. We have over nearly

383
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: one hundred runs and climbs all over the United States,

384
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: and people can emulate what my brother did that day

385
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 2: and what so many other heroes did that day. But

386
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: we have three thousand events, three thousand events. The people

387
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 2: at dinner or you know, some kind of a small fundraise.

388
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 2: I love the little kids that come. I can't tell

389
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: you how many times I see a ten year old

390
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: kid or a fifteen year old kid or whatever that

391
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: did a fundraise and gives us a check for six

392
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: hundred dollars or eleven hundred dollars It means so much

393
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: to me and one of the reasons why I'm so

394
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: proud that we have the nine to Eleven Institute.

395
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: On our website.

396
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: You go to T two T and just you'll see

397
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 2: we have we have kids for classes for K through

398
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: twelve that a curriculum that you could just press a

399
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: button and prints out what you can teach your class.

400
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: We have teachers that downloaded every single day.

401
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

402
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This year, my daughter had her

403
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 1: eighth grade field trip to Washington, d C. We went

404
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: and saw the nine to eleven Memorial there at the Pentagon.

405
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: It was fascinating to see these seventh and eighth graders

406
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: who did not live through this were really curious about it.

407
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: They were looking at all the names. They were talking about,

408
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: how did how did the plane come in? We went

409
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: from there a few months later or too. I took

410
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: her to New York City and we went down to

411
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: ground zero and she's she looked at me and she said, Mom,

412
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: now I saw what happened in DC, and I've seen

413
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: what happened here, but it's it's still really hard to understand.

414
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: You have this mobile exhibit. How does that work? How

415
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: do you how do you talk to young kids about this,

416
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: because I just think it's the never forget message, you know,

417
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: we will never forget. But how do we educate so

418
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: that they know?

419
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: It's not easy? But it's parents like you that make

420
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: it happen. So that's beautiful that you did both both

421
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: those things go down to the Pentagon and then of

422
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: course the ground zero.

423
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: And you should know, for the twentieth anniversary two years

424
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: ago today I finished my walk to honor my brother.

425
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: I walked from the Pentagon to Shanksville where Flate ninety

426
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: three went down to ground zero, fifteen miles a day

427
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: for six weeks, five hundred and fifty two miles. And

428
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: I came into ground zero on this day two years

429
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: ago and walked to ground zero. And it's all because

430
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: at first I went to honor my brother, you know,

431
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: and I didn't know how to do it in a

432
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: proper way, and I figured that would be something special,

433
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: and it was very spiritual for me.

434
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: I can't even today you how spiritual it was.

435
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: Walking every day and I had hundreds and sometimes thousands

436
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: of people walk with me, you know, at different at

437
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: different times, and different days.

438
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: It was so beautiful.

439
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: I cannot even I just I tell you, it wasn't

440
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: even hard.

441
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't hard.

442
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: I trained the don't get me wrong, but I'm pretty all.

443
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Im seventy years old, but I trained, and I think

444
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: it made it easier. But I think the real reason

445
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: why it was easy because I I tell you, my

446
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: brother was with me, the Holy Spirit was with me,

447
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: and I just felt like I was I can't explain

448
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: to you going up a mountain.

449
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: I climbed up a mountain one day with.

450
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: A double amputee and he had his shorty prosthetics on

451
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: and three hours straight upper mountain, three hours straight and

452
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: he didn't complain. So I'm sure as heck was never

453
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: going to complain, you know. And I saw him do that,

454
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sweating, and you know, of course

455
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: he was sweating too. But because we did it, I

456
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: did it in the middle of the summer, but it

457
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: was it was glorious. But yes, we have to make

458
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: sure we never forget. And that's why we have the

459
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: nine to eleven Institute where you could download these you know,

460
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: the curriculums and for the age appropriate. And that's why

461
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: we have a mobile exhibit that goes all over the

462
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: United States. It's on tractor trail. It's ninety three foot

463
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: tractor trail and opens up to eleven hundred square foot

464
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: museum with nine to eleven artifacts. And who's manning that

465
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: My nine to eleven buddy, my firefighter buddies who lived

466
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: that day. We have over two hundred a speakers bureau

467
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: if somebody wanted somebody to come to speak at an event,

468
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: because I love going to them, but I can't go

469
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: to a thousand events, and of course of a year

470
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: of five thousand events, so we have a speakers bureau.

471
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: We have hundreds and hundreds of people who lived through

472
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: that day of nine to eleven, the will to go

473
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: anywhere and speak about it.

474
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: It's you can't forget what happened.

475
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: It's our first responsibility at TOMS, the Tallis Foundation, is

476
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: to never forget an honor the sacrifice.

477
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: And brought you brought something up about stair climbs. These

478
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: folks that there's these events and I've been to one

479
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: of these events where you climb the number of stairs

480
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: that those firefighters climb that day. And you go to

481
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: these events and their aspiermen there in full gear doing

482
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: this in honor of their brothers who went out that

483
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: day and did this and lost their lives. I think

484
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: it's so valuable to go do this yourself and to

485
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, the walk was so spiritual

486
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: for you to go do this, and you'll find one

487
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: in your town. I'm sure they're all over. I mean,

488
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: people are doing this to honor these folks, but honestly,

489
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: it's to understand it's more than just to honor. It's

490
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: to live it and feel it and know what it

491
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: was like. And you're doing it under no pressure. They're

492
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: doing it as this building is falling crumbling around them. Yes,

493
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean you think about that. You see these firefighters,

494
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: they're silent, they're not saying anything. They're just in the

495
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: zone of I'm going to honor these guys. It's pretty amazing.

496
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: It's emotional if you're there, it's emotional. You do it

497
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: with them, it's incredible. You know, we have our marquee

498
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: event every year is a Tunnel to Towers run, which

499
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: is a couple weeks away. It's the last Sunday in September,

500
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: September twenty fourth, and.

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: You know, we retrace what my brother did. We go

502
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: run through the.

503
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: Tunnel and we have thousands of fire fighters will come

504
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: from all over the country. Matter of fact, we have

505
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: thirty countries that are represented and we have one hundred

506
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: and fifty London fire fighters that come.

507
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Every every year.

508
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but my point is is that we all we

509
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: bring all these people again once again, make sure we

510
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: out of the sacrifice and never forget. But you run

511
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: through the tunnel with these We have twenty five hundred

512
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: West Point Cadets that running cadence. They chant for the tunnel.

513
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: If you're in that tunnel, it's just it's just it.

514
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: It is the most patriotic event that you could be

515
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: in America, period, bar none. And it was voted that

516
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: some magazine voted it once, you know, a while ago,

517
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: but it's true. And then you come out of that tunnel.

518
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: We have the pictures of.

519
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: All every firefighter and every police officer that died that

520
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: they held by other five fighters and cops.

521
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: Oh wow, but.

522
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: Their face shoulder to shoulder. You put all them, you know,

523
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty three firefighters together.

524
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: We're holding that boundary. You'll see how long that line is.

525
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: And then the police officers and port authority police officers

526
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: and rescue workers. And then we have the pictures of

527
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: all the seven thousand plus men and women who died

528
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: on the Global War on Terra. They're holding the pictures

529
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: by ROTC and other military members. It's almost a mile

530
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: long of all these great people that have paid such

531
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 2: a sacrifice for you and for me, and I challenge

532
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: anybody to come do it one year.

533
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: Come do it one year.

534
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: It is the most uplifting emotional And then we celebrate

535
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: their lives with a big, a big celebration on the

536
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: block right facing ground zero. We cook have them why

537
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Firefighter Buddi's cooked for thirty or forty thousand people.

538
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: We're cooking for it.

539
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I call it the miracles and the loaves and fishes,

540
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: because these guys make sure that.

541
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: They feed, they feed everybody.

542
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: And we have like this year, we have a lady

543
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: at the bellum, lady a uh uh singing for us,

544
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Lesia had Derek Spanley. We have we have a great

545
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: celebration on the block because these guys are the most

546
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: women were of the most outrageous people ever, and they

547
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't want us to stay sad, isn't it so?

548
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that though you take the worst

549
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: terror attack on this nation ever. Isn't it so American

550
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: that we would come out and we would say, look,

551
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: you are not going to hold us down. We were

552
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: always every year, we're going to come together and we're

553
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: going to say we are stronger than this, We're stronger

554
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: than terror.

555
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

556
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Well yeah, look, goodness always defeeds evil. Read in the Bible,

557
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: and but it is true and and uh and that's

558
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: what we do here. And that's why our whole thing

559
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: about Total to Tallis foundation is is the Saint Francis

560
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: of ASSISSI. My my parents are very religious and they were.

561
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: They died when my brother was real young. He was

562
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: eight and a half years old when my dad died,

563
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: and a year later my mom died.

564
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: So we raised my.

565
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Youngest brother, Stephen, his older siblings.

566
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: And I said, he's the youngest of seven, but we

567
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: were a lot old. I was closest in age.

568
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: I was fourteen years older than Stephen. My brother Russ

569
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: got rest his soul passed recently, was twenty five years

570
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: older than him. So we were able to take that

571
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: orphan baby kid and raise him. But say, my parents

572
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: were Franciscans and they gave us great faith and teach

573
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: them to live a simple life. Although this foundation is

574
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: not so simple anymore. But say Francis and ASSISSI said this,

575
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters, while we have time, let us do

576
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: good while we're here. Let us do good because we're

577
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: running out of time every single day. So while you

578
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: have time, don't postpone it.

579
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: Do good.

580
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: And we remember everybody. We celebrate their lives. But the

581
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: good that we're doing as a foundation to take care

582
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: of these families that, like I said before, are willing

583
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: to risk their lives for you and me and all

584
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: to often do. Come on, as Americans, come on, let's

585
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: all get together, you say.

586
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: How do we keep this going?

587
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: I have no doubt the tone to twas foundation will

588
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: be around forever. The need will always be there. They'll

589
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: always be a firefighter or a police officer given their life.

590
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: There always will be sad to say, there will always

591
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: be conflicts around the world where America will stand up

592
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: and take care of the world.

593
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: Like we always like we always have.

594
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: So we'll always have guys coming back losing their lens

595
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: and they'll need smart homes. All these things that we're

596
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: doing will always be there. It need, So the foundation,

597
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I have no doubt. I know it for one hundred percent.

598
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: Will be here forever because the need will always be there.

599
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: But let's all just come together and make this promise

600
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: that we'll take care of these families that are left behind.

601
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's why.

602
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: They should do.

603
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: It's time for us all to do good. And Frank Zeller,

604
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 1: you've really done good. And your brother Stephen, what an

605
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: amazing guy. I mean, his story is the reason that

606
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: we want to support people who take care of us.

607
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: His story is the story of everybody who has an

608
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: emergency and needs that person, and we all need Stephen

609
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: running through that tower for us, and tunnel to towers

610
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: allows us to continue to support those families that have

611
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: people running through tunnels to save us. I appreciate you.

612
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for you today, and I just ask

613
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: all of our listeners today take some time to think

614
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: about those heroes today. Thank a veteran, Thank the people

615
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: that help you every day. Go to t towot dot

616
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: org and put that money in that monthly gift to

617
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: make sure that we can continue to thank our heroes.

618
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, Frank Zeller, thank you and Gobbless, and thank

619
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: you all for joining me. Today, on this day that

620
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: we will never forget. On the Tutor Dixon Podcast, thank

621
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: you for this episode and others. Go to Tutor diisonpodcast

622
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: dot com. You can subscribe right there, or check us

623
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

624
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. And of course I want you to

625
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: tell everybody you can today to remember our heroes and

626
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: never forget nine to eleven. Have a blessed day,