WEBVTT - Episode 5-40 | E-40

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of the new rory and

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<v Speaker 1>maul podcast i am maul i'm rory rory today we

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<v Speaker 1>are joined by we don't use this word icon and

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<v Speaker 1>legend loosely that's true i'm very serious when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to that word but today we are joined by a

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<v Speaker 1>legend in every sense of the word Somebody that I've

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted the pleasure of meeting, and today he is

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<v Speaker 1>here with us. We are joined by the legendary, the

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<v Speaker 1>iconic E-40 is in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Building, ladies and gentlemen. E-40. Yes. Say now. Album out

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<v Speaker 2>this week. Yes, sir. Album out. Listen, the quadruple. The quadruple.

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<v Speaker 2>First time ever, four albums, man, by a rap recording artist.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the, obviously... The 40, to play on the 40, E40,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that part. But what was the motivation behind

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to record so much music at this point? Because everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a legacy at this point. So everything now is

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<v Speaker 1>just like you having fun. But what was the motivation

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<v Speaker 1>to want to, first of all, sit down and take

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<v Speaker 1>the time to record 40 tracks? But what was the

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration behind just even having the idea of doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>So my track record has been putting out double CDs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>In the 90s, bro, 30-something years ago, I was putting

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<v Speaker 2>out double CDs, you know. Then in the 2000s, like

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<v Speaker 2>2010 and up, I put out multiple, two albums at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. revenue retrieving day shift night shift graveyard

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<v Speaker 2>shift overtime shift I went to the block brochure one

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<v Speaker 2>two three and four the block brochure welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>soil one two three and four the block brochure welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the soil four five six you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying I've been doing them they all charted and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff you know what I'm saying and I just

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it for many moons you know I was

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<v Speaker 2>on even some of the bigger records like Tupac All

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes On Me I was on his double album I

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<v Speaker 2>was on 8 Ball Lost Triple album I was on

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<v Speaker 2>a Crazy Bones double album. And so I just been,

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<v Speaker 2>I put a lot of music out all my life

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like all these, I missed out on

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<v Speaker 2>two or three, two or three years recently. Cause I

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<v Speaker 2>got multiple, you know, revenue streams and stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 2>got multiple businesses. And so I just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, took a break off music, but I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing features and everything all the way through. So I

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<v Speaker 2>kept myself relevant, staying in a mix like Bisquick's. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, you know, I got to satisfy

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<v Speaker 2>my fan base's time. Cause I was going, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I pivoted from, um, What was I finna do? I

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<v Speaker 2>was finna do Rule of Thumb, because I did that

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<v Speaker 2>in 2000. When was that? 2023? Yeah, so I did

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<v Speaker 2>Rule of Thumb. But that was November of 2023, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So it kind of been like two years, two or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so anyway, make a long story short, and a

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<v Speaker 2>short story long, I knew that my fans hadn't got

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<v Speaker 2>no albums from me in a couple of years, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not like me. You know what I mean? Since 88,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been consistent. And so I was like, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I got hella songs. That's all I do. I got

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<v Speaker 2>so many damn rap records, bro. Yeah? Yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 2>stop right now.

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<v Speaker 1>How often do you record, though? Even if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an album, you want to get in there and

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<v Speaker 1>lay something down?

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<v Speaker 2>At least four times a week. Yeah, at least four

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<v Speaker 2>times a week and at least five songs a day

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<v Speaker 2>I do it, whether it's just a verse and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get a feature or just a verse and then

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<v Speaker 2>I revisit it later on and finish that up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>two verses is all you need nowadays. A hook or

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge. You know what I'm saying? A hook and

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge. You feel me? Yeah. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, let me change the title from Rule

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<v Speaker 2>of Thumb 2 and 3 because I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>do a double. Okay. Because I just did Rule of

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<v Speaker 2>Thumb in 2023. Right. And so I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, let me change it. And so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like turning my money over. So I found the old

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<v Speaker 2>picture of me 40 years ago. You know, I was 18.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, you know what, let me make

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<v Speaker 2>this the album cover. This kind of fly because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the 80s and whatnot. You feel me? Right. And so then,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's 40 years ago. So we playing all fours, right? Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I say, let me put 40 songs on this

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<v Speaker 2>quadruple album. Let me do, let me do a four,

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<v Speaker 2>make it four disc. Okay. You feel me? And put

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<v Speaker 2>that thing out with all brand new blappers. They all blaps.

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<v Speaker 2>They all brand new. The whole woo-wop. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>song on there called the woo-wop. The woo-wop. How'd you

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<v Speaker 2>decide which records went on which disc? Well, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tried to even it out because I got my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite producer in the world working with us, Rick Rock. OK.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he produced for Jay-Z and Busta Rhymes and

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<v Speaker 2>Rock Here, all kind of people. Right. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I have I got like six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>of his blaps. So I want to spread them out. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want them to all be Rick Rock,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Rock, Rick Rock. I want to mix it up

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<v Speaker 2>because so many producers on there, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just like, you know, make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>made each one. Where it's like, I don't just put

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<v Speaker 2>all the blaps, blapper, blappers on one of the discs.

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<v Speaker 2>I want every one of them to have something super slaps.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel me? That's how I did it. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever connected with Mustard before? Yeah, man. Mustard produced the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest record I ever been on in my life. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what that is? Which one? That one right there. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>he produced the one. that I'm on with Ty Dolla

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<v Speaker 2>Sign called Saved. And that went platinum. I was on

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<v Speaker 2>that with Ty Dolla Sign. He produced one more. What

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<v Speaker 2>else must've produced? One more that was one of them ones, too.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll come to me. But nah, Mustard, I haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>him produce one for me personally, but I tapped in

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<v Speaker 2>with him the other day on the DM because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll send me some music. I fuck with Mustard real heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Mustard. He got blaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I mean, of course, Mustard is L.A., has an L.A. sound,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've always felt like his sound did kind of

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<v Speaker 3>derive from the Bay and from you specifically. I always

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<v Speaker 3>felt like when Mustard, even his biggest records to me

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<v Speaker 3>feel like Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Game Recognize Game. And if he did

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<v Speaker 2>get a dose of it, I mean, he is West Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did a he did a better job than

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area people, you know, me producers. So he did

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<v Speaker 2>his thing. And there's no disrespect to the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, he he said 10 summers he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to do it for 10 summers. He gained

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<v Speaker 2>20 summers now. You know what I'm saying? So I

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<v Speaker 2>can't be mad at him, man. I told him, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't with all that hate shit, man. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that shit, man. You know, so we all won.

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one coast, man, you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>The sound, the sound is, uh, founded by just, you know, talent,

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<v Speaker 2>true talent, like, you know, uh, heavy bass lines, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? I've always loved up temples. You

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<v Speaker 2>can go to some of my slaps back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and everything. I have up temples and whatnot. and

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<v Speaker 2>party music. We mix it up. We got, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of the motherfuckers that created the word. I am the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that created the word mob music. So my music

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole nother thing besides hyphy and T-phone. You

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<v Speaker 2>feel me? So too short. I feel like him and, Him, me,

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<v Speaker 2>Studio Tone, Be Legit, D Shot to Click, Sugar T.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like as producers, I feel like it's Studio Tone,

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<v Speaker 2>Too Short. I feel like it's Ant Banks. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's Rick Rock. I feel like it's Sam Buster

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Mosley. I feel like it's, as far as

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<v Speaker 2>mob music, you know what I'm saying? It's other ones

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Where does Shock fit into that? Shock G.

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<v Speaker 2>Shock G. I said, oh, you said, I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>Shock G, but you talking about Shock G? Yeah, from... Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were talking about, because I said Shot,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother D-Shot, so. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Shock G. But Shock G, oh, man, he the funk. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't mob music, he was just funky. Like, Shock G,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest producers of all time. But he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't mob music, but he played, he did party music, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's a spirit animal. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people didn't know exactly how musically inclined

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<v Speaker 1>Shock G.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, he played hella different instruments and stuff, they say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying? And, you know, just an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible guy, man. Shit, I used to slap his shit

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<v Speaker 2>in my cutlass. That vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Real life on everything. Yeah. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the difference between, because a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we from the East Coast, but we obviously do the music.

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of take us through, you know, where you from,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is the difference growing up in Vallejo versus

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<v Speaker 1>like San Francisco?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is the biggest difference? Um, San Francisco, like

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<v Speaker 2>when we wearing something a little more, um, light, they

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<v Speaker 2>might have, on a puff jacket or something. Okay. Because they,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, we on the water too. We all

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area. We got Mary Island water. Yeah. But they

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<v Speaker 2>right there. They Alcatraz. They right there. Like, it get

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<v Speaker 2>a little colder. So they got more of a New

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<v Speaker 2>York type of look. You know, they wear them puff

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<v Speaker 2>jackets and stuff like that and all that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>beanie caps and whatnot. But San Francisco got their own swag.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? They got their own swag.

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<v Speaker 2>We got our, they player, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the cats out there, especially them Fimo cats,

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? And you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And so we we a small little city, Vallejo, especially

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<v Speaker 2>growing up. We only had it. It wasn't that populated.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like six or seven exits. Now it's a

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<v Speaker 2>few more, probably probably 11. But, you know, Vallejo is

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<v Speaker 2>a small city with lots of talent, lots of talent. But,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just some recent talent is like the SOBs,

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<v Speaker 2>like Forrest, you know, been been. making, you know, nationwide,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nationwide noise. But, you know, we got, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to miss out on it because a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of young rappers that go crazy. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a lot of talent out there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I say, you know, of course, the click. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, E-40 Mac Dre. Right. I would say. The

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<v Speaker 2>click is me, B-Legit, D-Shot, Sugar T. Selly Sell, he

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<v Speaker 2>from my neighborhood. He from Hollywood, Magazine Street and Hollywood Street.

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<v Speaker 2>We grew up together. He's a gold recording artist. His

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<v Speaker 2>record just went gold. We got Baby Bash. He got

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<v Speaker 2>Platinum Records and whatnot. Baby Bash. Baby Bash is the shit.

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<v Speaker 2>People think he from Houston, but he made his bones

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but he started in Vallejo. Okay. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Yeah. So baby, you know, we can

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<v Speaker 2>go on and on forever. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw when LaRusso was working his I'm from the

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<v Speaker 3>Bay record. I love that he went to like each

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<v Speaker 3>high school and shot a video and everything. But I

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<v Speaker 3>did see in the comments of everyone from the Bay

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<v Speaker 3>arguing what is the Bay and what isn't the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, they can't argue with Vallejo though. Vallejo's in that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I saw that too. I meant to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Neff DeFerro. Neff DeFerro. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 3>Um, LaRusso was like purposely trying to go to high schools.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that word outside what people would call the Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He was doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He would go to, uh, like Antioch and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pittsburgh. And, um, I mean, we so close with

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, I mean the whole, the whole Northern California, um,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think we the size of Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? And that's one city. So but,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Bay is the Bay and it is

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<v Speaker 2>cities that that are not the Bay, too. But that

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean that they ain't got Bay cousins or their family.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? They might have just been

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<v Speaker 2>raised in, you know, they might have been born in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bay, moved to that when they was three or four,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I don't even be tripping on that shit, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? It's like we all locked in. Exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about none of that shit. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling all through that thing. What's going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>49ers owner right now? I don't know. We be having

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<v Speaker 2>our little lumps and bumps and stuff, man. We be

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<v Speaker 2>having our little turbulence, man. You feel me? Yeah. He

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<v Speaker 2>did it outside of the Bay, at least. Oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>say he? Yeah, the owner. I thought you said what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with the 49ers. Oh, I meant the owner.

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<v Speaker 2>The 49ers owner. Oh, that's right. He was on his

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<v Speaker 2>way to get some lumps and bumps. Shit, man. He's human.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't he a free man? I don't know. Is he

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<v Speaker 2>a free man? That's his business. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was worth $ 8 billion, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I would be caught in that type of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have it back. I'm like you. You

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<v Speaker 2>never know. I'm a Bang Bang Niner gang fan for life.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. I got to just have his back. You

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<v Speaker 2>see what I'm Period. You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Because Robert Kraft, he got caught at that really low-end

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<v Speaker 3>one in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's their shit. Hey. Yeah, when you up there, though,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to come on, man. We got to move

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<v Speaker 2>a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to talk about just you, E-40, as

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<v Speaker 1>being the ambassador of the Bay and the icon that

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been... There's.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing we look at in the Bay where we don't

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<v Speaker 1>see E-40's presence. Whether it's the Warriors game, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the 49ers... whether it's the Giants, like how have you

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<v Speaker 1>been able to maintain such just like a relevance in

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<v Speaker 1>the city throughout the generations?

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<v Speaker 2>Like because a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Times our icons, they kind of like once they get older,

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<v Speaker 1>they fall back. But the young guys have it. We

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<v Speaker 1>see them every now and again. We can't turn on

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<v Speaker 1>our television watching anything from the Bay and not see E-40.

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<v Speaker 2>Righteous. I, um, it's all natural, like an Afro with me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying? When you get my age,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as you get older, you get wiser, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of want to live a more relaxing life as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always loved sports. So, you know, going to

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events, things like that. Going to an Earth, Wind &amp;

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<v Speaker 2>Fire concert or something like that. That's the type of

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<v Speaker 2>shit at my age I want to do. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying? And I'm still locked in with the

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<v Speaker 2>youth and whatnot. You know what I'm saying? I keep

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<v Speaker 2>my eye on the ball. You know, I'm never late

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<v Speaker 2>like Holiday Freight. I'm gamed up. Keep my ear to

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<v Speaker 2>the turf like a soccer cleat. You feel me? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just a different. I'm a different OG. Yeah. I'm really different. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of none. Right. No, that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about, away from the camera, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>just guys from the Bay. And we was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>MC Hammer not getting the respect that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves. Growing up, MC Hammer was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first superstars that I can remember from our culture. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like as a culture, we don't salute Hammer enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we don't either. And I think that My

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<v Speaker 2>big bro, I be wanting him to, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? He's living this life. He ain't broke. He

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<v Speaker 2>a solid dude. You know what I'm saying? It's just,

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<v Speaker 2>I be wanting him to go out there and collect

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<v Speaker 2>his flowers. I know people be reaching out to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he will get a lot of love if

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<v Speaker 2>he just go out. He could headline a festival tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>He's legendary. I mean, this man sold way more records

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<v Speaker 2>than me in too short. Hammer is goat. Yes, without

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<v Speaker 2>a doubt. You know what I'm saying? This man was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first motherfuckers with diamond records. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Albums and shit. You feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the ones that, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>as a coach, I feel I don't understand how we

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<v Speaker 1>don't salute him. And like I said, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see him out more. Obviously, he wants to live a.

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<v Speaker 2>More private life.

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<v Speaker 1>But like his story and the things that he accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>and saw and did is. I feel like as a culture,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to sit down and give them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'll embrace him every podcast, everybody. Without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of youngsters don't even know nothing about him. Right, right. Shit,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them don't even know nothing about me. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I don't know how, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. I'm everywhere like air, all over the place

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<v Speaker 2>like space, man.

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<v Speaker 3>With hip hop in an amazing way, embracing independence. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>was that always a Bay area thing per se? Cause

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like specifically the Bay with its rappers, even

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<v Speaker 3>Massapeed being from New Orleans and going up to Richmond

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<v Speaker 3>and everything he did independently.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that something y'all are taught at a young age?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause that was, it was kind of taboo to be

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<v Speaker 3>independent at the time that you guys were independent. Whereas

0:16:46.910 --> 0:16:47.989
<v Speaker 3>now it's the most embraced thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Period. There you go. We was out of our time. So,

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<v Speaker 2>so you ever heard of, uh, The phrase by force,

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<v Speaker 2>not by choice. You know how you be in a

0:16:59.820 --> 0:17:01.480
<v Speaker 2>hood by force? You got to live in a hood

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<v Speaker 2>by force, not by choice. That was us. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to be independent by force, not by choice. but it

0:17:10.450 --> 0:17:13.810
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be a great choice. More yaper, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole woo-wah. More control, you feel me? Taking that more yaper.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking that. Take it. I've been putting the whys

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<v Speaker 2>over whatever before any. I'm taking yaper. I've been screaming

0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.440
<v Speaker 2>yaper and all that. You know what I'm saying? But

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<v Speaker 2>what it is is that Hammer, I mean not Hammer,

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<v Speaker 2>but Master P, He was in the Bay doing his thing. Him,

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<v Speaker 2>Silk the Shocker, his brother C-Murder, like his whole family.

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<v Speaker 2>Sonia C, all of them, you know. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>making his ways. He was doing his thing. And we

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<v Speaker 2>was doing our thing. We had a little more edge

0:17:48.450 --> 0:17:52.830
<v Speaker 2>because we had talent like them and everything. P and

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<v Speaker 2>them family, the Miller family, remind me of the Stevens family.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you why. He has Silk, his brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has C-Murder, his brother. You feel me? And then,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe, I don't know if he was married,

0:18:08.540 --> 0:18:10.899
<v Speaker 2>but his baby mom was Sonia C. She was a rapper.

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<v Speaker 2>I had, I had my, my, my, uh, my brother

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<v Speaker 2>D shot. That's Danelle Stevens. Uh, my sister sugar tea

0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>that sings sprinkle me with me. That's Tanina Stevens. You

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<v Speaker 2>got Earl Stevens. That's me. You had the line Stevens.

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.440
<v Speaker 2>That's my little bro. He, you know, gig and dance

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. So he was hyphy before they even

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<v Speaker 2>named the shit hyphy. You feel me? And then you

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<v Speaker 2>have Be Legit, which is our cousin. That's Brent Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like we family, they family. You know what

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.150
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? And, you know, ASP seeing us doing our thing,

0:18:42.369 --> 0:18:46.310
<v Speaker 2>you know, like really making it unfold, like really selling records.

0:18:46.510 --> 0:18:50.189
<v Speaker 2>Like he hollered at St. Charles, my uncle St. Charles,

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<v Speaker 2>my real uncle, my mama's brother. They come from a

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<v Speaker 2>family of 11. They got the same mom and daddy, St. Charles,

0:18:57.420 --> 0:18:59.500
<v Speaker 2>Charles Thurman. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, so St. Charles had records in the seventies, like

0:19:03.859 --> 0:19:05.820
<v Speaker 2>in the early seventies, he knew how to do the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So he taught us the independent hustle. Okay. He did

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<v Speaker 2>the artwork for our first little EP called MVP. That

0:19:12.980 --> 0:19:15.399
<v Speaker 2>was 88. And then I say, man, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>change our name to the click. I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>at first most valuable players. You know what I'm saying?

0:19:20.410 --> 0:19:21.470
<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, I want to change our

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<v Speaker 2>name to the click. So right away we turned it

0:19:23.369 --> 0:19:26.480
<v Speaker 2>to the click. You know what I'm saying? He had

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<v Speaker 2>sick with the records, you know, he taught me how

0:19:28.260 --> 0:19:30.659
<v Speaker 2>to do my own label. He taught me everything as

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, because he was like, you know

0:19:33.340 --> 0:19:37.300
<v Speaker 2>how uncle is always like a second dad. That's what

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.090
<v Speaker 2>he was to us. And so, and he's still living

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<v Speaker 2>to this day. So what I'm saying is he came over,

0:19:43.420 --> 0:19:46.630
<v Speaker 2>he hollered at him as well as P he put

0:19:47.030 --> 0:19:51.020
<v Speaker 2>he gave P a lot of advice he worked with

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<v Speaker 2>him it wasn't just advice they worked together made money

0:19:53.540 --> 0:19:57.620
<v Speaker 2>together they made millions together you feel me and then

0:19:57.700 --> 0:20:01.100
<v Speaker 2>JT the bigger figure came over okay you know JT

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<v Speaker 2>came after P You know what I'm saying? Or vice versa.

0:20:06.660 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>One of them can't. I was first. They know that, right?

0:20:10.140 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? So anyway, but they all,

0:20:12.790 --> 0:20:15.830
<v Speaker 2>you know, the independent, that shit was born there, man. We,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we had a one, we had a small

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<v Speaker 2>one shot, but I first started, we first started with

0:20:20.830 --> 0:20:22.810
<v Speaker 2>selling tapes out the trunk of the car. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about what consignment sheets and shit. They used

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<v Speaker 2>to call me business zero because I'll pull up at

0:20:26.980 --> 0:20:29.340
<v Speaker 2>M &amp; M Liquor, drop off like 15, 20 cassettes,

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<v Speaker 2>30 cassettes and something like that or CDs or whatever

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.820
<v Speaker 2>we had at that time. We even had vinyl. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying? And I'll put it on

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.890
<v Speaker 2>consignment and drop it off. They call me and say, hey,

0:20:39.990 --> 0:20:42.729
<v Speaker 2>we out of CDs or cassettes or whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I bring them 30, 40 more. You feel me? And

0:20:44.730 --> 0:20:47.149
<v Speaker 2>then it went like that. And that's just one little store.

0:20:47.170 --> 0:20:49.370
<v Speaker 2>So I did that all around the Bay Area and whatnot.

0:20:49.790 --> 0:20:53.460
<v Speaker 2>Then we had a one-stop called Music People. Music People.

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.960
<v Speaker 2>And we had another one called City Hall Records. So

0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.379
<v Speaker 2>City Hall Records was our main hub. So St. Charles

0:20:59.420 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>created this system where you do a sales sheet. On

0:21:02.740 --> 0:21:04.930
<v Speaker 2>that sales sheet, it was kind of like you put

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<v Speaker 2>everything about yourself, who you've been in concert with, and

0:21:08.950 --> 0:21:11.030
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. And then you got the barcode on there.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the album cover on it. And so you

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<v Speaker 2>send that out with like five CDs to every mom

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and pop store or any... Yeah, any mom and pop

0:21:20.460 --> 0:21:22.620
<v Speaker 2>star that dealt with rap music. Okay. So he had

0:21:22.660 --> 0:21:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a big-ass book like this before the internet, a big-ass

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.780
<v Speaker 2>book just like that thick. I'm telling you right now.

0:21:28.300 --> 0:21:31.030
<v Speaker 2>And that was his magical book because in that book,

0:21:31.380 --> 0:21:34.570
<v Speaker 2>he just did his due diligence, called every state. Mm-hmm.

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.740
<v Speaker 2>You know, just deep south, midwest, everywhere. Anybody who dealt

0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.100
<v Speaker 2>with rap music, and we'll send them out through Pitney Bowles,

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.310
<v Speaker 2>I believe. I think I'm saying it right. It's UPS. Okay. Ground.

0:21:46.369 --> 0:21:48.969
<v Speaker 2>So it might get there two, three weeks later. But

0:21:49.090 --> 0:21:51.990
<v Speaker 2>once they got it, the store owners will look at it.

0:21:52.109 --> 0:21:54.850
<v Speaker 2>They'll put it in their thing, play that shit. They're

0:21:54.869 --> 0:21:56.850
<v Speaker 2>looking at the cover because they know it's attractive because

0:21:56.910 --> 0:21:59.330
<v Speaker 2>it got, you know, trues and vogues, zeniths and vogues. Right.

0:21:59.570 --> 0:22:02.340
<v Speaker 2>We on there with cutlasses, and we look like... you know,

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you look like something, you look like something, right. You know,

0:22:05.340 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>so all the cast is, um, you know, living that

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>life that we look like, you know how it looked

0:22:10.900 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 2>like with us. You know what I'm saying? They buy

0:22:13.260 --> 0:22:16.260
<v Speaker 2>the CD, um, and they are there here on planet

0:22:16.300 --> 0:22:18.590
<v Speaker 2>in the store. Um, And they'd be like, give me that.

0:22:18.910 --> 0:22:21.930
<v Speaker 2>Next thing you know, you got cats that's really having

0:22:21.970 --> 0:22:24.780
<v Speaker 2>it their way, spreading the word. So when it's a cat,

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<v Speaker 2>they got hella blap in his trunk and he having

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we had Juvie up here last week who actually

0:23:43.619 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 3>even said that he thought Master P was from the Bay.

0:23:46.060 --> 0:23:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Didn't even know they went to the same high school

0:23:47.380 --> 0:23:48.609
<v Speaker 3>at some point. Like he was like, I thought he

0:23:48.660 --> 0:23:52.050
<v Speaker 3>was from California. Um, how'd you go about picking these,

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<v Speaker 3>these features?

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<v Speaker 2>Juvie being one of them. Oh man, you don't understand

0:23:56.380 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>how far I go backwards cash money. Hmm. I'm an

0:23:59.900 --> 0:24:04.459
<v Speaker 2>old fossil, man. I'm, boy, boy, I've been doing this

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 2>shit since Kermit the Frog was a Polly walker. You

0:24:07.900 --> 0:24:15.180
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? So, me and Birdman and Master P,

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 2>all of us, we go way back. But, but, but Juvie,

0:24:18.380 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 2>that's my partner. He just did the Visnidia with me

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.109
<v Speaker 2>in the year. You feel me? And, you know what

0:24:23.130 --> 0:24:25.169
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? That's my real friend. You feel me? We

0:24:25.230 --> 0:24:28.609
<v Speaker 2>are family. And, you know, I feel like I'm, I'm a,

0:24:28.850 --> 0:24:33.170
<v Speaker 2>I'm a, Louisiana motherfucker. I went to Graham state university.

0:24:33.950 --> 0:24:37.750
<v Speaker 2>I went to school with Jubilee. You know, Jubilee is

0:24:38.050 --> 0:24:40.300
<v Speaker 2>real new Orleans. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I

0:24:40.780 --> 0:24:42.580
<v Speaker 2>went to school with cats like that. And that's, they

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.940
<v Speaker 2>pilot too. You know, everybody, you know what I'm saying?

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.460
<v Speaker 2>No him. And, um, just me being out there, my

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:54.100
<v Speaker 2>granddaddy from Bernice, Louisiana, you understand me? Grandma from Homer, um,

0:24:54.980 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, and my daddy from Mississippi and just being,

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:01.449
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm a, a South city boy or something.

0:25:01.470 --> 0:25:02.590
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know what to call it.

0:25:02.609 --> 0:25:03.969
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just got this South in me, you

0:25:04.010 --> 0:25:07.730
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Yeah. So when I first met, met, um, Birdman,

0:25:07.810 --> 0:25:10.540
<v Speaker 2>it was 1996. I was on my Hall of Game, uh,

0:25:10.609 --> 0:25:14.169
<v Speaker 2>tour for the Hall of Game, uh, album. Um, and, uh,

0:25:14.430 --> 0:25:16.730
<v Speaker 2>I was at the radio station in New Orleans and,

0:25:16.859 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and I see, I see, uh, like a shorter dude

0:25:19.780 --> 0:25:23.210
<v Speaker 2>and a super tall dude. Um, And the tall dude

0:25:23.250 --> 0:25:26.810
<v Speaker 2>was his brother Slim. And then it was Birdman, Beatrice.

0:25:26.830 --> 0:25:29.010
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, hey, man, I'm Beatrice, man. Just

0:25:29.030 --> 0:25:31.469
<v Speaker 2>before he called himself Birdman. You know what I'm saying?

0:25:31.550 --> 0:25:33.730
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, man, I'm, you know, hey, man,

0:25:33.750 --> 0:25:35.929
<v Speaker 2>we salute you. We fuck with you. You know what

0:25:35.950 --> 0:25:39.190
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? Much love. I was just coming in. They

0:25:39.210 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>was going out. And we, ever since then, we've been cool.

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>And so... Um, I had got on their, uh, baller blocking, um,

0:25:47.740 --> 0:25:50.540
<v Speaker 2>a song with them, uh, did the vision video. They

0:25:50.580 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>flew me out, did the vision video, kicked it with

0:25:52.300 --> 0:25:54.550
<v Speaker 2>them through the whole weekend. We went, we did, I

0:25:54.550 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to, I was so fucking drunk on the,

0:25:56.869 --> 0:25:59.330
<v Speaker 2>on the tour bus. Juvenile attorney told the story too.

0:25:59.710 --> 0:26:02.170
<v Speaker 2>With all of us on the bus, me, Cavio, Muggsy,

0:26:02.630 --> 0:26:04.750
<v Speaker 2>all of us on the motherfucking bus, old Meesey, all

0:26:04.790 --> 0:26:06.270
<v Speaker 2>of us on the bus with Cat, all the cats,

0:26:06.310 --> 0:26:09.010
<v Speaker 2>money cats. We had a couple of buses and we doing,

0:26:09.030 --> 0:26:11.980
<v Speaker 2>they did two visit videos that whole weekend while we

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.100
<v Speaker 2>was out. No, they did three. We did one and

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 2>then they did two more out there. You feel me?

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.700
<v Speaker 2>Like they did back that ass up. I was so drunk.

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.620
<v Speaker 2>I had a hangover, bro. I was on the bus

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>during the whole time. You know what I'm saying?

0:26:23.940 --> 0:26:24.020
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:24.830 --> 0:26:26.630
<v Speaker 2>But one of the first cameos I did with them

0:26:26.670 --> 0:26:29.990
<v Speaker 2>was BG, Cash Money is an Army, better yet than Navy.

0:26:30.050 --> 0:26:32.730
<v Speaker 2>And I was on there popping my collar. Birdman was like, 40,

0:26:32.730 --> 0:26:34.670
<v Speaker 2>do that thing you be doing with your collar. And

0:26:34.710 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, it is right here, you feel me?

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you go look at that, visit Nitto, you'll

0:26:38.380 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>see 40 water way back then. And that thing, you

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>feel me? So we all locked in, you feel me? No, definitely.

0:26:44.619 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>But do you feel like with the South in particular,

0:26:49.180 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like because, like you said, Vallejo and the

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.060
<v Speaker 1>Order Bay, y'all had to do.

0:26:54.150 --> 0:26:55.170
<v Speaker 2>Because it was always L.A.

0:26:55.430 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>People talk about California, especially when it comes to hip-hop,

0:26:58.500 --> 0:27:00.540
<v Speaker 1>it was always L.A. Do you feel like y'all kind

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of had to make y'all bones and let people know

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:04.180
<v Speaker 1>we got a story, too?

0:27:04.460 --> 0:27:05.379
<v Speaker 2>Fucking right.

0:27:05.859 --> 0:27:07.379
<v Speaker 1>I say that about the South, too, because it was

0:27:07.420 --> 0:27:09.830
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that with the South. Not until you

0:27:10.050 --> 0:27:13.430
<v Speaker 1>started really listening to Catch, you're like, oh, we all

0:27:13.490 --> 0:27:15.669
<v Speaker 1>got kind of the same story. We all from the hood,

0:27:16.070 --> 0:27:18.050
<v Speaker 1>but we just say it different. We got different slang.

0:27:18.470 --> 0:27:20.540
<v Speaker 1>But do you feel like there was things that y'all

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>had to do to kind of be recognized more because

0:27:24.619 --> 0:27:26.940
<v Speaker 1>obviously being from the Bay, but then having to deal

0:27:26.980 --> 0:27:29.619
<v Speaker 1>with the whole wave coming out of Los Angeles and

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.870
<v Speaker 1>then the South, they had to make their bones because

0:27:31.910 --> 0:27:33.910
<v Speaker 1>it's like, we're not LA, we're not the West coast.

0:27:33.930 --> 0:27:35.930
<v Speaker 1>We're not the East coast, but we also got something

0:27:35.950 --> 0:27:36.230
<v Speaker 1>to say.

0:27:36.850 --> 0:27:40.830
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. You know, LA is the bigger place, the bigger name,

0:27:40.930 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you know? And so that's what they think off top.

0:27:43.220 --> 0:27:45.860
<v Speaker 2>Cause I, I had partners hit me and just like 40, man,

0:27:45.900 --> 0:27:48.220
<v Speaker 2>I'm out here. I'm out here. I'm out. No, they

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.899
<v Speaker 2>say 40, I'm out here in the Bay. And I'll

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:57.460
<v Speaker 2>be like, where you at? Um, off of Crenshaw. And

0:27:57.540 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I say, man, family, y'all like seven hour drive,

0:28:01.980 --> 0:28:06.010
<v Speaker 2>give or take with traffic, you know, uh, 55 minute flight.

0:28:08.010 --> 0:28:11.490
<v Speaker 2>They don't know two different cultures, but we all fuck

0:28:11.510 --> 0:28:14.530
<v Speaker 2>with each other. You know what I'm saying? Uh, you know,

0:28:14.630 --> 0:28:17.770
<v Speaker 2>penitentiary wise and everything, you feel me? For sure. And

0:28:17.890 --> 0:28:21.790
<v Speaker 2>so we ride, you know, but I was like, um, uh,

0:28:22.270 --> 0:28:25.109
<v Speaker 2>you know, I always said that if it was an

0:28:25.170 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 2>airplane that was just going around doing a tour and

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.820
<v Speaker 2>it was like, Yeah, they'll go L.A. right there, woo

0:28:30.900 --> 0:28:33.060
<v Speaker 2>after woo. They'll go Compton. They'll go Watts. They'll go this.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.380
<v Speaker 2>They'll go that. And then they go, and then they say,

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.300
<v Speaker 2>they'll go San Diego. No, I wouldn't even say San

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Diego because they get looked over, too. I'll say, and

0:28:40.550 --> 0:28:42.390
<v Speaker 2>if they went by the bay, they'd be like, and

0:28:42.410 --> 0:28:45.630
<v Speaker 2>there's some Alcatraz. Then they just keep going. They won't

0:28:45.650 --> 0:28:48.510
<v Speaker 2>care about it. They don't care. Like, we did have

0:28:48.530 --> 0:28:50.790
<v Speaker 2>to make our bones. We had to go hard. Like,

0:28:51.290 --> 0:28:54.790
<v Speaker 2>we the most gamed up in the world. We got

0:28:54.810 --> 0:28:56.650
<v Speaker 2>the most game than anybody in the world.

0:28:56.670 --> 0:28:56.850
<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

0:28:57.210 --> 0:28:59.910
<v Speaker 2>At least back when I was coming up. Right. That's

0:28:59.970 --> 0:29:03.100
<v Speaker 2>all we specialize in. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:04.420
<v Speaker 2>Swag and pizzazz.

0:29:04.660 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:29:04.820 --> 0:29:06.740
<v Speaker 2>Being gamed up. Yeah. You feel me?

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>That was definitely one of the first things being, you know,

0:29:08.540 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>growing up in the East Coast when we started getting

0:29:10.820 --> 0:29:14.180
<v Speaker 1>hip to who E-40 was. The first thing we recognized

0:29:14.220 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>was it's a lot of style.

0:29:16.090 --> 0:29:16.450
<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

0:29:16.470 --> 0:29:18.290
<v Speaker 1>A lot of like, just the slang and the way

0:29:18.330 --> 0:29:20.890
<v Speaker 1>you talk. Then it was like the music.

0:29:21.230 --> 0:29:21.490
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:29:21.690 --> 0:29:23.630
<v Speaker 1>But the music, when we first started hearing E-40, I

0:29:23.690 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>remember first hearing your music, it was like, Oh, the.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Way he talked, this is him.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.870
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no separation from seeing an E-40, interviewing E-40 just.

0:29:32.750 --> 0:29:36.210
<v Speaker 2>Chilling versus when the music come on. It's the same person.

0:29:36.430 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>That's me. Have you ever been in a situation where.

0:29:40.300 --> 0:29:43.260
<v Speaker 1>you know, coming up, somebody you wanted to work with

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.860
<v Speaker 1>and you finally got the opportunity to meet them and

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.900
<v Speaker 1>talk to them, was it ever something where it was like, damn,

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.380
<v Speaker 1>this guy wasn't the way I expected it to be? Like,

0:29:52.580 --> 0:29:54.940
<v Speaker 1>just the interaction wasn't what you expected it to be?

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.750
<v Speaker 2>Because you coming back from, like you said, the 80s.

0:29:58.970 --> 0:30:01.330
<v Speaker 1>So it's guys that we probably look at, we don't remember,

0:30:01.370 --> 0:30:04.410
<v Speaker 1>but it was like, did you remember ever meeting somebody like, damn,

0:30:04.450 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to work with this dude? And then you

0:30:05.780 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>meet him and it's like, damn, the feelings wasn't, it

0:30:09.180 --> 0:30:10.340
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't a connection there.

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be doing some good interviews. Man, you know what?

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.900
<v Speaker 2>I definitely have met a couple of cats like that.

0:30:18.940 --> 0:30:20.140
<v Speaker 2>They kind of hurt my heart.

0:30:20.570 --> 0:30:20.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:21.410 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Okay. But I don't even

0:30:24.580 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>want to say their names. No, we ain't got to

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>do that. But just you being a legend. I have.

0:30:27.620 --> 0:30:29.700
<v Speaker 2>I have. We don't hear about the legends being disappointed.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>And guess what? You don't even hear about the motherfuckers

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.260
<v Speaker 2>like you hear about me, man. You feel me? Right. Yeah, man.

0:30:34.340 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll last with these niggas. You hear me? Yeah, man. Yeah.

0:30:38.770 --> 0:30:41.550
<v Speaker 2>In real life. Yeah. I'm right here. 2,000 wild 26, though.

0:30:41.570 --> 0:30:46.330
<v Speaker 2>Still here. You feel me? 2026 on they bitch ass

0:30:46.390 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>quadruple album hello now dropping four of them things man

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 2>how um how have you kept up with that longevity

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 2>cause Maul and I are 10 years apart you've had

0:30:54.540 --> 0:30:55.940
<v Speaker 2>hit records when he was in.

0:30:55.900 --> 0:30:57.530
<v Speaker 3>High school when I was in high school when I

0:30:57.550 --> 0:31:01.350
<v Speaker 3>went to college like you've stayed consistent. And it also

0:31:01.390 --> 0:31:04.170
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel like you were forcing it. Like it's too

0:31:04.290 --> 0:31:06.490
<v Speaker 3>old to be here type vibe, which we get, I

0:31:06.530 --> 0:31:09.350
<v Speaker 3>think with people that started out in the eighties into

0:31:09.590 --> 0:31:12.430
<v Speaker 3>this time, how, how have you stayed so relevant yet

0:31:12.470 --> 0:31:14.980
<v Speaker 3>so much yourself and not even chasing the new sound

0:31:15.020 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>in the Bay? Yeah. You didn't sound weird on, on

0:31:16.980 --> 0:31:19.460
<v Speaker 3>the stupid dumb high fee when I was in high school,

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.180
<v Speaker 3>little B and everything going on.

0:31:21.500 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. How do you maintain that type of longevity? So

0:31:26.220 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>first and foremost, I got a lot of faith in God.

0:31:29.060 --> 0:31:30.820
<v Speaker 2>My granddaddy, I was telling you about from Bernice, Louisiana,

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>he's a preacher. We grew up in a church house

0:31:33.030 --> 0:31:35.090
<v Speaker 2>and he always told me, stay prayed up, keep the faith.

0:31:35.250 --> 0:31:37.390
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? God has always answered my prayers.

0:31:37.790 --> 0:31:39.850
<v Speaker 2>It might not have been right on time, but he's

0:31:39.890 --> 0:31:42.910
<v Speaker 2>always been there. I'm a true believer in the Lord.

0:31:43.490 --> 0:31:45.790
<v Speaker 2>I'm a true believer because I've seen it. Out of

0:31:45.830 --> 0:31:47.810
<v Speaker 2>all these years I've been on this planet. You know

0:31:47.830 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? So anyway, I grew a talent for

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>playing drums. Back in the days, I played drums. I

0:31:55.140 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>got in the band when I was in the fourth grade,

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>played all the way to 12th grade. And, you know,

0:32:01.410 --> 0:32:04.770
<v Speaker 2>at that time, it wasn't Pro Tools. It wasn't logic.

0:32:04.810 --> 0:32:07.890
<v Speaker 2>So we had to do things manually. Drums, being in

0:32:07.910 --> 0:32:09.470
<v Speaker 2>the music, that's how we did it. You know what

0:32:09.490 --> 0:32:12.110
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? So I really got a passion for rapping.

0:32:12.430 --> 0:32:16.270
<v Speaker 2>When I first heard the Sugarhill Gang in 1979, I

0:32:16.390 --> 0:32:18.580
<v Speaker 2>knew what I wanted to do. I knew I wanted

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 2>to be in music, first and foremost, off top. But

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I knew I wanted to rap because there was some

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>unique shit to me, man. Like, what the fuck is this?

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, that was my first rap I ever heard.

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>The Sugarhill Gang, rappers delight.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:30.580
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:30.580 --> 0:32:33.860
<v Speaker 2>79 i think i was 11 years old same time

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.100
<v Speaker 2>and uh i was rapping but just fucking around with

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>me and the homies you know what i'm saying but

0:32:38.540 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>i wasn't putting out music yet my first my first

0:32:41.540 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>uh ep came out in 1988 you know what i'm

0:32:44.700 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>saying like in tower records and shit like that rainbow

0:32:47.500 --> 0:32:50.660
<v Speaker 2>records and you know ty uzis and you know what

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.510
<v Speaker 2>i'm saying seventh heaventh and all these mom and pop

0:32:53.530 --> 0:32:55.570
<v Speaker 2>stories across the nation we start getting it out there

0:32:55.590 --> 0:32:58.630
<v Speaker 2>but anyway make a long story short um i i

0:32:58.710 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>just so happen to be um you know, one of

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.900
<v Speaker 2>those dudes that have been, they've been relevant in every

0:33:05.980 --> 0:33:08.340
<v Speaker 2>era of hip hop and I'm grateful for it. You know,

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.219
<v Speaker 2>the majority of every era of hip hop and, and

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 2>that's by keeping my eye on the ball, um, you know, um,

0:33:15.420 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>staying updated, not outdated, uh, being myself, having a foundation

0:33:19.980 --> 0:33:22.390
<v Speaker 2>that a soil cause I'm from the trenches. I'm really

0:33:22.430 --> 0:33:24.630
<v Speaker 2>from it. I, you know, I, I was a hustler

0:33:24.690 --> 0:33:28.060
<v Speaker 2>BR before rap and, um, You know what I'm saying?

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.610
<v Speaker 2>Had my ups and downs. Wasn't always up. Right. That's life.

0:33:31.620 --> 0:33:31.830
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:31.870 --> 0:33:33.650
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I know how to make

0:33:33.690 --> 0:33:35.530
<v Speaker 2>it look like I'm at my best when I'm at

0:33:35.550 --> 0:33:37.470
<v Speaker 2>my worst. Right. You ain't gonna catch me out of

0:33:37.530 --> 0:33:39.430
<v Speaker 2>pocket sweating. You know what I'm saying? You know what

0:33:39.450 --> 0:33:41.790
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? I'm gonna stay on my P's and toes, man. Right, right.

0:33:41.810 --> 0:33:43.570
<v Speaker 2>Never get caught digging in my nose, you know what

0:33:43.590 --> 0:33:46.010
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Right, right. Yeah, yeah.

0:33:46.290 --> 0:33:49.710
<v Speaker 1>As somebody that has seen so many different transitions in

0:33:49.730 --> 0:33:52.540
<v Speaker 1>the culture of hip hop, like you said, pretty much

0:33:52.540 --> 0:33:56.010
<v Speaker 1>40 years in the game, um, How do you feel

0:33:56.030 --> 0:33:58.930
<v Speaker 1>about this whole new AI thing? Because we've seen Dr.

0:33:58.950 --> 0:34:02.230
<v Speaker 1>Dre recently embrace it, Rick Rue embrace it. All of

0:34:02.250 --> 0:34:05.310
<v Speaker 1>the legends that we kind of felt in talking to

0:34:05.330 --> 0:34:06.910
<v Speaker 1>each other, we felt like, nah, they wouldn't be with that.

0:34:06.970 --> 0:34:08.630
<v Speaker 2>But I love.

0:34:08.450 --> 0:34:10.009
<v Speaker 1>The fact that DJ Quick came out and was like,

0:34:10.030 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not with that. I'm not really into the AI thing.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>As somebody who has seen so many different transitions from

0:34:17.020 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>the business side and technology and the way you even

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.189
<v Speaker 1>put out music, How does E-40 feel about the whole

0:34:25.290 --> 0:34:25.890
<v Speaker 1>AI thing?

0:34:26.850 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the way, if you're going to use it,

0:34:29.010 --> 0:34:31.620
<v Speaker 2>use it uniquely. I think you got to turn what

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the times are the times to turn on you. Right.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.020
<v Speaker 2>Because this shit is too far ahead. It's locked in

0:34:37.060 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>for life. I think it's not going anywhere. Right. Eventually,

0:34:40.060 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you're going to use it some type of way. Whether

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:47.090
<v Speaker 2>you're like, shit, hey, I need you to... Shit, I

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know how would I say this. Give me... give

0:34:52.620 --> 0:34:56.580
<v Speaker 2>me a, uh, make somebody sound like he 40. I

0:34:56.620 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You know, how would you feel about that though?

0:34:59.020 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if somebody took your whole, the whole E 40

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.980
<v Speaker 1>style person persona and they put out a record and

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.660
<v Speaker 1>say it shoots to the top of the chart, how

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>would you feel about that?

0:35:09.020 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like, we're quick to be honest with you,

0:35:10.860 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 2>but I know producers use it in certain ways, you know,

0:35:13.940 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>long as they really plan their music and stuff, you know, and, um,

0:35:19.380 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I really can't call it, bro. I don't know. I

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>can't say I'm going to never use it. I won't

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.439
<v Speaker 2>use it to write my shit or nothing. Right, right.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.660
<v Speaker 2>None of that shit. Right, right, right. You feel me?

0:35:27.700 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>None of that. Yeah. Yeah. Put it that way. That's that.

0:35:35.219 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Did that affect the music in the Bay when like

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:43.610
<v Speaker 3>that whole tech shit hit San Francisco and just the

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.790
<v Speaker 3>outer areas there? Yeah.

0:35:46.650 --> 0:35:47.430
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

0:35:47.570 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know it's a little open-ended, but I

0:35:49.780 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like San Francisco took on the brunt of every startup,

0:35:53.660 --> 0:35:56.100
<v Speaker 3>every technology company moved there. And I'm sure the city

0:35:56.140 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>changed drastically. Did that affect the music scene at all?

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.910
<v Speaker 2>Oh, hell no. I'll be seeing all them cats, all

0:36:03.930 --> 0:36:06.450
<v Speaker 2>the startup company guys. I'll be seeing them when I'm

0:36:06.489 --> 0:36:09.370
<v Speaker 2>courtside at the Warriors game and whatnot. I'll be seeing

0:36:09.390 --> 0:36:13.450
<v Speaker 2>them cast. They made some good decisions in life. Absolutely.

0:36:13.630 --> 0:36:16.170
<v Speaker 2>And that's why they so yapered up. You feel me? Right.

0:36:16.390 --> 0:36:20.100
<v Speaker 2>But no, it ain't affect the music scene. The music scene, man,

0:36:20.140 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like I just want my Bay Area

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>cast to go back to the Bay Area. We starting

0:36:25.620 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 2>to say gang and yeah gang and I'm like I

0:36:28.580 --> 0:36:30.819
<v Speaker 2>heard somebody saying it I'm like when we start talking

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.050
<v Speaker 2>like everybody else we always been trendsetters bro like what

0:36:34.110 --> 0:36:37.009
<v Speaker 2>a trendsetter is that and then in a game that

0:36:37.050 --> 0:36:40.170
<v Speaker 2>we still the game that we got left for you

0:36:40.190 --> 0:36:42.430
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying the game that we got left

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.580
<v Speaker 2>it's really like recycle game from when I was coming

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 2>up when I was a young mustache. It's like, you

0:36:47.380 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>just recycling it. Y'all don't know. We say anything y'all saying,

0:36:49.900 --> 0:36:53.350
<v Speaker 2>we already said that shit many moons ago. You feel me? Right.

0:36:53.670 --> 0:36:55.689
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I mean, I just feel like

0:36:56.230 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not bashing the new generation and then like, the

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>youth but it's like we more creative debate we more

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>creative than what we've been doing lately man you know

0:37:05.260 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying we've never been followers we've always been.

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.150
<v Speaker 1>Leaders we say the same thing about artists from New

0:37:10.190 --> 0:37:12.350
<v Speaker 1>York and just the way they create and make music

0:37:12.370 --> 0:37:13.969
<v Speaker 1>and the things that they say we like that's not

0:37:14.050 --> 0:37:16.270
<v Speaker 1>even that don't even feel like New York but I

0:37:16.310 --> 0:37:19.450
<v Speaker 1>think social media because we've all been kind of put into.

0:37:19.260 --> 0:37:21.620
<v Speaker 2>This That might have something to do with it.

0:37:21.780 --> 0:37:23.860
<v Speaker 1>We can see how everybody else talk, how they dress,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.859
<v Speaker 1>how they create. So you don't even realize it. You

0:37:27.900 --> 0:37:30.670
<v Speaker 1>take it on that energy and now it comes out

0:37:30.730 --> 0:37:31.530
<v Speaker 1>in your creation.

0:37:31.670 --> 0:37:36.750
<v Speaker 2>Right. Subliminally, it can be self-subliminally. It can just, yeah,

0:37:36.850 --> 0:37:37.450
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying.

0:37:37.489 --> 0:37:37.729
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:38.030 --> 0:37:40.350
<v Speaker 2>I try to be open-minded, man. I ain't bashing nobody.

0:37:40.469 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 1>But one thing about it, you have not changed anything.

0:37:44.140 --> 0:37:47.299
<v Speaker 2>Slang persona charisma.

0:37:46.780 --> 0:37:50.900
<v Speaker 1>Style e40 is e40 like it's there's no changing who

0:37:50.940 --> 0:37:54.700
<v Speaker 1>e40 is let's talk about um la russell and everything

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that he's been able to build and create um how

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.030
<v Speaker 1>special was that for you to watch what he's doing

0:38:04.010 --> 0:38:08.190
<v Speaker 1>well um one of my guys that do security his

0:38:08.210 --> 0:38:09.609
<v Speaker 1>name and he was like man i want to put

0:38:09.630 --> 0:38:11.890
<v Speaker 1>you up on my boy la russell man he you

0:38:11.950 --> 0:38:14.739
<v Speaker 1>know um he worked with my boy Juan and he

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what I'm saying? He was like, man,

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>he said, man, I want you to, uh, get a

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.540
<v Speaker 1>dose of him, man. I said, man, let me hear him.

0:38:20.580 --> 0:38:22.959
<v Speaker 2>And he, and he sent me a social and everything.

0:38:22.980 --> 0:38:24.859
<v Speaker 2>And I started following him. I said, start seeing how

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.170
<v Speaker 2>he do his thing. And then he put me together

0:38:27.210 --> 0:38:28.930
<v Speaker 2>with him. We start talking and shit. And I just like,

0:38:28.950 --> 0:38:31.830
<v Speaker 2>I like his vibe. I like everything he doing. Just

0:38:31.870 --> 0:38:34.009
<v Speaker 2>a positive guy. You know what I'm saying? And, um,

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.930
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got nothing, especially being from Vallejo.

0:38:38.150 --> 0:38:38.290
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:38.310 --> 0:38:40.470
<v Speaker 2>He's from Northern, he's from North Vallejo.

0:38:40.590 --> 0:38:40.770
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

0:38:41.170 --> 0:38:42.430
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? And I was, I was

0:38:42.450 --> 0:38:44.900
<v Speaker 2>just happy for him, man, you know, and, um, you know,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>it started getting bigger and bigger, making a lot of noise, and, um,

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, I rock with him, man. I really do.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.390
<v Speaker 2>I love positive people. Right. The man ain't bothering nobody. Right.

0:38:54.410 --> 0:38:56.090
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? There's people hating on him.

0:38:57.030 --> 0:38:59.430
<v Speaker 2>You know, people, first and foremost, you know, he had

0:38:59.450 --> 0:39:02.779
<v Speaker 2>went through his little, you know, backlash for the situation with,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 2>what was it again? The Heaven Sent. Yeah, that shit, right?

0:39:05.780 --> 0:39:05.940
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I kicked back because, you know, I'm

0:39:08.500 --> 0:39:10.500
<v Speaker 2>real smart. As I get older, I get wiser. I'm like,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I bet all these motherfuckers couldn't wait for him to

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.259
<v Speaker 2>do some type of hiccup. All these old hating ass

0:39:15.300 --> 0:39:16.450
<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers on the sidelines.

0:39:16.510 --> 0:39:19.910
<v Speaker 3>Especially when you build your presence online the way he did. Right.

0:39:19.910 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>They can't wait for the day you say one wrong thing.

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.430
<v Speaker 2>They've been waiting. They've been waiting. They do that with me.

0:39:24.430 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Motherfuckers sit back and look at every little day observe

0:39:27.020 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>every little thing bitch ass motherfuckers that's what they really

0:39:29.460 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>do some hoe ass motherfuckers these days bro yeah for

0:39:32.900 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>sure you know they overanalyze and shit and they try

0:39:35.180 --> 0:39:37.850
<v Speaker 2>to put conspiracy shit together and shit like leave the

0:39:37.910 --> 0:39:40.130
<v Speaker 2>rustle on man that man ain't bothering nobody man let

0:39:40.150 --> 0:39:41.450
<v Speaker 2>that man do his thing.

0:39:41.310 --> 0:39:43.430
<v Speaker 1>What he's been able to build i mean you know

0:39:43.910 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>i've been a fan of the culture and hip-hop forever

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but we've never I've never seen something like I'm talking

0:39:49.580 --> 0:39:53.859
<v Speaker 1>about at the crib yeah never build that what he

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.779
<v Speaker 1>built I mean I've never seen anything like that so

0:39:57.110 --> 0:39:59.430
<v Speaker 1>we definitely support and salute him but the fact that

0:39:59.469 --> 0:40:01.109
<v Speaker 1>he's from the town he's from the city where you

0:40:01.150 --> 0:40:03.430
<v Speaker 1>from yeah I mean it has to be just something

0:40:03.450 --> 0:40:04.029
<v Speaker 1>that you look at.

0:40:03.989 --> 0:40:06.210
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for him man I'm happy for him bro

0:40:06.430 --> 0:40:09.109
<v Speaker 2>yeah you know what I mean positive guy you know,

0:40:09.150 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the youth look up to him, like the little youngsters,

0:40:11.780 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, be giving people opportunities, man. He's just a

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>positive vibe, good spirit. You know what I'm saying? Like that.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.489
<v Speaker 3>Behind the Bars is presented by Sprite. And I want

0:40:24.510 --> 0:40:27.150
<v Speaker 3>to talk about the full Sprite living track list. I

0:40:27.190 --> 0:40:29.549
<v Speaker 3>know we've talked about some songs on here before, and

0:40:29.570 --> 0:40:31.290
<v Speaker 3>I know we're talking about the bars, but today I

0:40:31.290 --> 0:40:33.029
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about some of my favorite beats that

0:40:33.070 --> 0:40:36.390
<v Speaker 3>are on this track list. Shook One's Part Two, I

0:40:36.430 --> 0:40:38.770
<v Speaker 3>think is one of the greatest beats that's ever existed.

0:40:39.210 --> 0:40:42.420
<v Speaker 3>Underrated Southern Hospitality is one of my favorite. And the

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Lunchroom Special, grindin'. is one of the greatest beats that's

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:51.180
<v Speaker 3>ever existed. So please check out the full Sprite Living

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.370
<v Speaker 3>track list and break down the stories behind your favorite bars.

0:40:54.430 --> 0:40:56.830
<v Speaker 3>The link is in our show notes. This is the

0:40:56.950 --> 0:41:01.340
<v Speaker 3>Sprite Living track list. Obey your thirst.

0:41:07.830 --> 0:41:10.150
<v Speaker 2>You fuck with Simba? Yeah, I like Simba. Simba's one

0:41:10.190 --> 0:41:14.180
<v Speaker 2>of the coldest motherfuckers born. Yeah. Simba's definitely one of

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>my favorite rappers. I'm going to be honest with you.

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.299
<v Speaker 2>The dopest freestyler that I ever heard is like, I'm

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.959
<v Speaker 2>going to say Richie Rich. I'm going to say Mr.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.259
<v Speaker 2>Fab and Simba. Mr. Fab. I'm going to keep it

0:41:24.340 --> 0:41:27.890
<v Speaker 2>one thou wild. Freestyle? I don't know how to freestyle. Yeah.

0:41:27.910 --> 0:41:29.590
<v Speaker 2>You don't know how to freestyle? I don't know how

0:41:29.610 --> 0:41:32.469
<v Speaker 2>to freestyle. I'm just paystyle on mine, man. Paystyle. Paystyle.

0:41:34.700 --> 0:41:36.700
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to do it. I never knew

0:41:36.739 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 2>how to do it. I probably could if I really started,

0:41:38.700 --> 0:41:41.100
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what I mean? I'm, you know,

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:42.020
<v Speaker 2>like that, but yeah.

0:41:42.140 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the current, the current state

0:41:44.180 --> 0:41:48.020
<v Speaker 1>though of just music overall? Um, especially hip hop.

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.260
<v Speaker 2>Lots of talent, but too many people that sound alike. Right.

0:41:51.420 --> 0:41:56.190
<v Speaker 2>Lots of talent, too many people sound alike. I know it's,

0:41:56.630 --> 0:41:58.469
<v Speaker 2>it's probably like easy for me to say, cause I

0:41:58.510 --> 0:42:00.470
<v Speaker 2>know I got a unique voice and I'm one of none.

0:42:00.530 --> 0:42:04.529
<v Speaker 2>And I, But you had to be that at some point.

0:42:04.710 --> 0:42:04.890
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:42:04.910 --> 0:42:06.009
<v Speaker 2>That's what you were supposed to be.

0:42:06.190 --> 0:42:06.450
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:42:06.510 --> 0:42:08.630
<v Speaker 1>You weren't supposed to sound like nobody, look like nobody.

0:42:08.670 --> 0:42:09.990
<v Speaker 1>That was actually frowned upon.

0:42:10.010 --> 0:42:11.969
<v Speaker 2>You peeped that, right? Back in the 90s and the

0:42:12.590 --> 0:42:13.730
<v Speaker 2>80s and all that. We all had to have our

0:42:13.850 --> 0:42:18.820
<v Speaker 2>own identification. 100%. Busta Rhyme had his thing. Q-Tip had

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.450
<v Speaker 2>his thing. You understand me? Chuck D had his thing.

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>You understand me? Snoopy Dogg had his thing. You feel me?

0:42:24.260 --> 0:42:26.420
<v Speaker 2>Warren G had his thing. You're like, hey, it's too

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.580
<v Speaker 2>many motherfucking sound tools. DMX had his shit. You feel me? Right.

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.819
<v Speaker 2>Jay-Z had his thing. Now, like everybody had their own

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>voice and name. I mean, voice and identification. And and

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 2>it's everybody sounded like that.

0:42:42.500 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>But that's why I can't get with the thing, because

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.290
<v Speaker 1>I feel like. It's literally stripping originality. Right.

0:42:48.510 --> 0:42:48.830
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:42:48.850 --> 0:42:51.790
<v Speaker 1>It's like, let's pull from what we already have. Let's

0:42:51.810 --> 0:42:54.850
<v Speaker 1>kind of emulate that and give that same vibe where

0:42:54.890 --> 0:42:58.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, that wasn't what this was at first, though.

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.540
<v Speaker 1>You were supposed to be unique, and we embraced originality

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.700
<v Speaker 1>in hip hop. Now it's, can you do that again?

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.780
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, right. I just can't. I can't get with that.

0:43:07.969 --> 0:43:09.830
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Yeah, I can't get with that.

0:43:09.950 --> 0:43:10.730
<v Speaker 2>I agree 100%.

0:43:10.730 --> 0:43:15.980
<v Speaker 1>Quadruple album. Is there anybody... That you haven't worked with

0:43:16.140 --> 0:43:18.529
<v Speaker 1>over the years, E-40, that you're looking forward to one

0:43:18.570 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>day saying, I want to create, I want to get

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:20.380
<v Speaker 1>in the.

0:43:20.340 --> 0:43:26.690
<v Speaker 2>Studio with this guy. It is some people. Let me think, though.

0:43:27.070 --> 0:43:28.690
<v Speaker 2>And women in hip hop as well. OK.

0:43:29.890 --> 0:43:32.550
<v Speaker 1>Because I think E-40, I think E-40, Meg Thee Stallion,

0:43:32.590 --> 0:43:35.170
<v Speaker 1>I think that might that might the walls in the

0:43:35.210 --> 0:43:37.790
<v Speaker 1>club might come down if E-40 and Meg.

0:43:38.540 --> 0:43:40.820
<v Speaker 2>Get something together. I'm going to talk to T Ferris

0:43:40.860 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and my, my, my, my, my publicist over there. Yeah.

0:43:44.500 --> 0:43:47.460
<v Speaker 2>I want to see the, I want to see the Viznitio.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Put it together like the weather. Right. I want to

0:43:49.980 --> 0:43:52.930
<v Speaker 2>see the Viznitio. Let me see the Viznitio. Viznitio. You know,

0:43:52.950 --> 0:43:57.130
<v Speaker 2>put a Viznitio together. You hear me? Hello? Yeah. That'd

0:43:57.150 --> 0:44:01.050
<v Speaker 2>be dope. Um, I want to work with Nas, man. Ooh.

0:44:01.190 --> 0:44:04.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do a song with Nas. Wow. And

0:44:04.150 --> 0:44:05.930
<v Speaker 2>I want to do a Nas type of slap. I

0:44:05.950 --> 0:44:09.340
<v Speaker 2>want him on one of my slaps. Yeah. Up-tempo. Okay.

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.060
<v Speaker 2>With hella bass line, like a hunting tempo with a

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.540
<v Speaker 2>bass line. I think he'll go crazy because that shorty. Yeah.

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.980
<v Speaker 2>Do what you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And back it up.

0:44:19.020 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>That's my shit right there. That's one of them ones. Yeah.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:25.250
<v Speaker 2>That's not like a Bay Area. Yeah, definitely. You feel me? Yeah, definitely.

0:44:25.370 --> 0:44:27.570
<v Speaker 2>That's how I know. Wasn't that his record? Yeah. That's

0:44:27.610 --> 0:44:31.660
<v Speaker 2>how I know we'll kill it. Yeah. Nas, let's do it.

0:44:32.790 --> 0:44:35.330
<v Speaker 2>Is this your first time working with Havoc on this? Yeah,

0:44:35.430 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to work with Mobb D, bro. That's fine.

0:44:37.940 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Havoc could make that connection, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm hollering

0:44:40.500 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 2>at him. Yeah, Havoc on the album. I was happy

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to do a record with him, man. Is Havoc production

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.020
<v Speaker 2>and rapping? Nope, a dude by the name of Ted

0:44:49.060 --> 0:44:51.489
<v Speaker 2>Digital did the slap. Okay. You know what I mean?

0:44:52.170 --> 0:44:54.130
<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to pattern it to be in the

0:44:54.170 --> 0:44:58.290
<v Speaker 2>same category as Havoc shit, as Win or Lose. Okay.

0:44:58.310 --> 0:45:01.430
<v Speaker 2>Because that's one of my favorite songs in the world. Wow.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.540
<v Speaker 2>Win or Lose by Mobb D? Yeah. Hell yeah. Come on, man.

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.420
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the ones.

0:45:06.460 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Who was the first East Coast rapper that you could

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>remember hearing, like, yo, I like this dude?

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 2>You really want to know? Yeah, I do. Hmm. Melly Mayle.

0:45:17.739 --> 0:45:20.500
<v Speaker 2>That makes so much sense. Melly Mel. That makes so

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 2>much sense. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Melly Mel, man.

0:45:23.660 --> 0:45:26.100
<v Speaker 2>That makes so much sense. Goat. Yeah, absolutely. You know?

0:45:26.540 --> 0:45:28.660
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been doing his shit since Moby Dick

0:45:28.700 --> 0:45:31.660
<v Speaker 2>was a goldfish. Right, right. Spitting it from a New

0:45:31.700 --> 0:45:34.140
<v Speaker 2>York point of view. Yeah, right. If you're gamed up,

0:45:34.180 --> 0:45:36.620
<v Speaker 2>you can relate to it. A square won't be able

0:45:36.660 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to size it up. Right, that's a fact. You feel me?

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:39.420 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>So, Melly Mel, I would go with... uh what's the

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 2>boy name schoolie g right uh i would go with

0:45:48.340 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 2>um you talking about east coast right yeah shit just

0:45:51.410 --> 0:45:54.009
<v Speaker 2>ice was my guy just ice he's been talking about

0:45:54.090 --> 0:45:57.450
<v Speaker 2>cold get dumb him and the mantronics and all yeah

0:45:57.489 --> 0:46:00.529
<v Speaker 2>yeah come on man but uh ice you feel me

0:46:01.070 --> 0:46:05.890
<v Speaker 2>um who else uh uh um Man, KRS-One, bro, back

0:46:05.910 --> 0:46:09.210
<v Speaker 2>in the days, he used to go crazy. So, are

0:46:09.250 --> 0:46:10.149
<v Speaker 2>you a philosopher?

0:46:10.170 --> 0:46:10.590
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:10.770 --> 0:46:16.940
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yeah, I think very deeply. Yeah. What's the one... Um, um,

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.299
<v Speaker 2>now there's beans with my dad. Now there's beans with my,

0:46:20.340 --> 0:46:22.510
<v Speaker 2>what is it? Now there's steak with my beans and rice.

0:46:22.550 --> 0:46:25.549
<v Speaker 2>What song? Love's going to get you. Yeah. Love's going

0:46:25.590 --> 0:46:27.950
<v Speaker 2>to get you. Love's going to get you. One of

0:46:28.150 --> 0:46:31.270
<v Speaker 2>the greatest hip hop songs of all time. Yeah. But

0:46:31.310 --> 0:46:32.950
<v Speaker 2>if you want to move forward to talk about some,

0:46:32.989 --> 0:46:37.570
<v Speaker 2>some East coast, um, um, Jay-Z, when my boys started

0:46:37.590 --> 0:46:40.220
<v Speaker 2>hearing Jay-Z, my partners, and they was like, man, he,

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.859
<v Speaker 2>because we, we, we so, in the Bay, we like,

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, you heard the terminology, game, recognize game, right?

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 2>We recognize game. So hearing, hearing somebody from the East

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Coast spit some game about they self, it was Jay,

0:46:57.100 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>it was Jay, and it was Biggie too. He asked

0:46:58.900 --> 0:47:01.379
<v Speaker 2>the game about the self too. For sure. But, but,

0:47:01.500 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 2>but Jay, when we heard he was, all my partners,

0:47:03.580 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 2>they was like, That nigga got some game about himself.

0:47:06.860 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>He might be from the game. You know what I'm saying?

0:47:09.460 --> 0:47:11.509
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. And then I talked to a few

0:47:11.530 --> 0:47:13.370
<v Speaker 2>of my partners from the pen. They call me collector

0:47:13.390 --> 0:47:15.650
<v Speaker 2>where they, yeah, if we fuck with the nigga Jay-Z,

0:47:15.690 --> 0:47:17.190
<v Speaker 2>my partner, some of my partners in here, they say

0:47:17.210 --> 0:47:21.620
<v Speaker 2>he was really in that shit. You know what I'm saying?

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:23.940
<v Speaker 2>You feel me? To see him blossom from the streets

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.940
<v Speaker 2>to where he at now you can't do nothing but

0:47:25.980 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>take your hat off man that's the fact you know what.

0:47:27.820 --> 0:47:30.540
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying i know um you've talked about that biggie

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.370
<v Speaker 3>story before with the phone call that that you guys

0:47:33.810 --> 0:47:36.510
<v Speaker 3>had when he was in sacramento legendary um.

0:47:36.930 --> 0:47:39.330
<v Speaker 2>Mind you i'm so gamed up and so player and

0:47:39.790 --> 0:47:42.370
<v Speaker 2>you know what i'm saying my my antics is my

0:47:42.750 --> 0:47:45.739
<v Speaker 2>i'm not like a lot of I'm not like a

0:47:45.820 --> 0:47:49.029
<v Speaker 2>lot of niggas, man. I never spoke on that. I

0:47:49.130 --> 0:47:52.690
<v Speaker 2>never was going to say anything about it. His security

0:47:52.770 --> 0:47:57.370
<v Speaker 2>is out of nowhere. You feel me? I don't want

0:47:57.390 --> 0:47:58.870
<v Speaker 2>no brownie points from that shit.

0:47:58.910 --> 0:48:01.989
<v Speaker 3>I don't even particularly care to talk about the side

0:48:02.010 --> 0:48:03.150
<v Speaker 3>of what he was talking about.

0:48:03.690 --> 0:48:05.049
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was great that you guys could

0:48:05.070 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 2>get on the phone.

0:48:05.820 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Because obviously he said something that was foul to begin with.

0:48:09.420 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>And you found a way to just squash it and

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 3>speak like men. So More so, I want to know

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.620
<v Speaker 3>what you guys talked about on that phone call. Not

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 3>the rah-rah story and everything else, but just what the

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.050
<v Speaker 3>two of you guys spoke about on the phone.

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.509
<v Speaker 2>That story was said several times, but I can move

0:48:24.570 --> 0:48:26.590
<v Speaker 2>forward and tell you when I seen him in Vegas,

0:48:27.190 --> 0:48:31.810
<v Speaker 2>me and Wifey about maybe... Hey, when we seen him?

0:48:31.850 --> 0:48:36.129
<v Speaker 2>About two months after him and Puffy? Yep. About two

0:48:36.190 --> 0:48:39.370
<v Speaker 2>months later in Vegas in the lobby of MGM. We

0:48:39.410 --> 0:48:43.370
<v Speaker 2>had already squashed, so, you know, we... you know, we

0:48:43.390 --> 0:48:46.110
<v Speaker 2>took the picture. I don't know if you've seen the picture. Me,

0:48:46.130 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>him and Puff and then me and Biggie, you feel me?

0:48:48.820 --> 0:48:51.060
<v Speaker 2>My wife took that picture. So I posted it many

0:48:51.100 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 2>years later after all the shit came out. Like, you

0:48:53.300 --> 0:48:56.370
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying? And so, um, You know, people

0:48:56.390 --> 0:48:59.410
<v Speaker 2>don't know that Puff reached out to me. He was like, man,

0:48:59.430 --> 0:49:01.419
<v Speaker 2>I need you on the album. If you can, man,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>it'd be great. It'd be monumental. You know what I'm saying?

0:49:05.180 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I think at that time I was doing something and

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.779
<v Speaker 2>they had to turn it in quick or whatever. But

0:49:09.860 --> 0:49:12.549
<v Speaker 2>in the inside, people don't know this. Go into the

0:49:12.620 --> 0:49:16.129
<v Speaker 2>inside of a Life After Death album back in there.

0:49:16.150 --> 0:49:18.790
<v Speaker 2>Go into the CD or you could probably Google it

0:49:18.830 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>and it can show you um all the components inside

0:49:21.180 --> 0:49:23.779
<v Speaker 2>the cd you know the images that show you how

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.339
<v Speaker 2>the physical copy was that shit say it in there

0:49:26.380 --> 0:49:30.379
<v Speaker 2>say shout out to e40 it had me spice one

0:49:30.420 --> 0:49:32.850
<v Speaker 2>and a few other people So just letting you know,

0:49:33.050 --> 0:49:34.750
<v Speaker 2>we didn't end it on a bad note. I hate

0:49:34.810 --> 0:49:36.390
<v Speaker 2>that him and Pac gone, and I want to move

0:49:36.410 --> 0:49:38.150
<v Speaker 2>forward from that shit, man. Yeah, that's a fact. You

0:49:38.170 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? That's a fact. Quadruple album, E-40. Yes. Listen,

0:49:42.780 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>this has been a true pleasure and a true honor. Yeah.

0:49:47.100 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I wish we had more time. Anytime you're in New

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 1>York City, if you want to pull up, drop some

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:51.500
<v Speaker 1>game on us.

0:49:51.620 --> 0:49:51.819
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Doors is wide open. Thank you. Is there anything left

0:49:56.000 --> 0:50:04.410
<v Speaker 2>that E-40 feels like city official? Like I feel, I

0:50:04.450 --> 0:50:05.569
<v Speaker 2>feel like you already are.

0:50:05.830 --> 0:50:08.569
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you already are like the, the, the,

0:50:08.630 --> 0:50:12.069
<v Speaker 1>the official mayor of the city. But like, do you

0:50:12.110 --> 0:50:14.290
<v Speaker 1>ever look at policies of like, I want to get

0:50:14.310 --> 0:50:17.029
<v Speaker 1>into that so I could really impact the community from

0:50:17.090 --> 0:50:18.430
<v Speaker 1>behind those doors?

0:50:19.890 --> 0:50:24.069
<v Speaker 2>The thing is I'm so, I'm not trying to be

0:50:24.090 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a me monster, but, and I'm not, and I'm not young.

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I might be youthful looking. I might be tapped in.

0:50:32.020 --> 0:50:34.750
<v Speaker 2>I might, I'm going to have a young spirit. You

0:50:34.770 --> 0:50:38.910
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? But I don't know if motherfuckers

0:50:38.930 --> 0:50:41.710
<v Speaker 2>still look at me like I'm, they don't look, I

0:50:41.710 --> 0:50:43.450
<v Speaker 2>don't think, I think they be looking at me like

0:50:43.510 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of them and I'm not. Like I'm not,

0:50:45.430 --> 0:50:47.819
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a YN. I'm not, I'm not in that category.

0:50:47.860 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? So I know I get

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.259
<v Speaker 2>hella flack back and shit like, man, foe, man, why

0:50:52.300 --> 0:50:54.180
<v Speaker 2>you the man? Why you, you know, you need to

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 2>do something about the crime in the city, my nigga.

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.060
<v Speaker 2>You know, and you know, first and foremost, these cracks

0:50:59.100 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 2>in the street, man, we need to finish that and

0:51:00.620 --> 0:51:02.819
<v Speaker 2>too many blowouts. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,

0:51:03.260 --> 0:51:05.700
<v Speaker 2>Too many potholes in the fucking street, man. They're complaining

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.540
<v Speaker 2>about hella shit. Like, they do me like that. Yeah.

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:09.989
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I don't think I'm ready

0:51:10.030 --> 0:51:12.610
<v Speaker 2>for that. And my nerves are bad these days. You

0:51:12.630 --> 0:51:14.950
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying? I ain't got time for that shit, man.

0:51:15.489 --> 0:51:18.029
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to live my damn life. That ain't my category.

0:51:20.390 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Give him that album one more time, E-40. Check this out.

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>First time ever. The quadruple album, turning my money over, E-40.

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.500
<v Speaker 2>First time ever. If you want a collector's item, I

0:51:28.540 --> 0:51:31.739
<v Speaker 2>got physical copies. I got CDs and vinyl, man. And

0:51:31.780 --> 0:51:35.259
<v Speaker 2>it's available on all streaming outlets and all platforms, man.

0:51:35.989 --> 0:51:39.290
<v Speaker 2>Get that thing. Number blaps. Be open-minded. Just know this

0:51:39.350 --> 0:51:42.690
<v Speaker 2>ain't just no West Coast shit. This is E-40 being him,

0:51:42.750 --> 0:51:44.750
<v Speaker 2>my nigga. You feel me? I've been doing this shit

0:51:45.050 --> 0:51:47.430
<v Speaker 2>for many moons, ever since Yogi Bear was a teddy bear.

0:51:47.450 --> 0:51:53.830
<v Speaker 2>You understand? Yeah. Fuck with me, man. I'm interesting. Right. Yo,

0:51:53.930 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 2>it's been nothing but an honor. We appreciate you, man.

0:51:56.250 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>A pleasure. Thank you. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

0:51:58.820 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>That's the legendary, iconic E-40.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:00.460
<v Speaker 3>Yee!