WEBVTT - 1169 | Kade Anderson Called Up, Worst MLB Contracts, Weekend Preview 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:04.359 Good by. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:16.200 Times. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.320 Say your league records bring. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:23.799 We will sue you to. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:33.960 The corner. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:41.600 Welcome hang out, Welcome back to the Just Baseball Show. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.720 We are live on a Friday here arm lighton Ryan Finkelstein. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.159 We've got some fun topics today because Kate Anderson finally 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.960 called up for the Mariners. We're gonna talk about just 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.520 how rare the season that he is having right now 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.000 in the minor leagues, and how exciting the debut is 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.920 for the Mariners, and what does this mean about the 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.360 Mariner's rotation moving forward. They've maybe handled the deadline differently. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.600 We're going to talk about that worst contracts in Baseball, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.600 something that we're working on at just baseball dot Com. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.600 I know Ryan's writing it up. Very excited to get 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.679 into that. That's always a fun conversation. And then we're 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.280 going to wrap with Games of the weekend, talk about 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.560 some of our predictions how we think things shake out, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.679 because there's some wild card implications. But think I started 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.280 to doubt that we were going to see kan Anderson 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.840 at all this year, and in the fact that it 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.040 comes in now, it was kind of now or never. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.160 If I feel like if it was in the next 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.160 week or so. There's a lot of implications. We'll talk 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.520 about it. But where were you at Did you think 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.680 it was actually going to end up happening this year? 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.479 Their rotations so full that I didn't expect it, right, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.720 It's just they were already rocking the six man rotation 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.760 prior to the deadline, and then they clear up the 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.800 guy that I didn't think they were going to be 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.760 able to trade, Lewise Castillo. So the fact that they 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.000 traded Castillo kept all the young guys, it's like, all right, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.559 I guess they don't need to bring Kate up this year, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.200 but try to fight a spark at this point right 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.040 the way he's pitching, it makes sense to pull the 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.440 trigger now, try to just find something. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.080 And the slight devil's advocate like of like maybe he 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.400 might not maybe it may not happen. Was one the 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.880 team you know, just continues to not play very well. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.720 They're eight games under five hundred at this point and 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.480 still only four games out of the division, and of 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.120 course the wild card is always an opportunity for everybody there. 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.640 And on top of that, you know this team, you 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.680 still you just sit there and say, well, why can't 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.160 they have a hot couple of weeks, you know, why 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.960 can't things happen? But the people what made it maybe 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.400 a little bit uncertain as to whether we'd see him 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.720 as he's not he doesn't need to be added to 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.760 the forty man anytime soon in terms of Rule five, right, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.639 he was just drafted in twenty twenty five, and if 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.600 you add him to the forty and you don't make 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.639 the playoffs or whatever it may be. Remember, when we're 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.440 locked out here in the offseason, you can no longer 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.560 have contact with Kate Anderson. So that does impact his 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.120 development some. But I'm basically having an argument with myself 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.680 here what other development is there to be had with 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.640 Kate Anderson. We're going to talk about that, like he's like, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.480 looks like a finished product already with what he's been 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.600 doing in Double A. But that was one, you know, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.359 fair argument, and something that is impacting September call ups 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.120 across the game is going to be you know, hey, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.200 if this guy isn't Rule five eligible at the end 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.720 of the year, do I want to impede my ability 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.520 to have contact with him if and when we're locked 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.800 out through the offseason and if it goes into February, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.320 like you'll be able to have contact with your minor leaguers, 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.359 get them on their off season regiment you need, you know, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.360 get them ready to go in spring training, and have 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.040 everything normal with those guys. Unless you add them to 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.960 the forty prematurely, then you don't have as much impact 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.960 on your prospects. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.080 That's insane. I didn't even think that this's the like 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.680 a really deep cut on what's going on right now 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.440 on how teams are thinking about this. I almost wonder 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.640 if you're the I guess to answer this question is 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.880 if you can get to the big leagues, who cares? 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.440 But you almost wonder for a prospect, like would you 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.480 rather be in contact with your organization to be ready 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.160 for like a full rookie season the next year, or 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.080 you just want to get to the show. Obviously still 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.680 it's still making your debut. I guess that that Trump's 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:07.160 all right. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.200 Yeah, I think so. I would say, you know, it's fine, 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.280 Oh wait, my boss can't talk to me for for 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.480 a few months, and I'll just go. All these guys 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.320 have their own training regimen, especially like a Caana Anderson, right, Like, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.600 these are all the guys that are close to the 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.400 big leagues, So like we're going to talk about some 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.240 other September call ups, like candidates, and this is weighed 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.760 into why I think certain guys could or could not 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.680 be added, and like what what are the Mariners need 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.360 to tell Caid this offseason that he doesn't know? You know, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.120 like I think about that, even like with Walker Jenkins 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.760 with the twins, even though I think he'd be Rule 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.040 five eligible, but like for the sake of argument, the 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.440 only thing that Walker Jenkins needs is to stay healthy. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.880 And so maybe there's something with the training group or 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.279 whatever to on that side of things. But ultimately, you know, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.680 I think most of those guys that are close to 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.039 big league ready, I'm sure they'd like to have contact 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.960 with some of their resources. Maybe it's different organization by organization. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.280 You know, if I'm a Brewers prospect, I'd probably love 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.839 to still have contact with my guys over there. Dodgers, 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.240 I'm I'm sure same thing. But I imagine a lot 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.560 of organizations. These players like they've kind of got things 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.080 taken care of on their own and they have their 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.719 own system, but for the teams, it's a little bit different. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.560 They still want to be able to implement, keep up 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.359 with what's going on and you know, be able to 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.000 tweak some things maybe in spring training and work with 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.719 them so uh and know what they have. But with 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.720 Caid specifically, this is a guy that I mean, Kate 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.719 Anderson is as polished of a pitching prospect as we 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.600 have ever seen in his first full professional season, and 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.880 what he's done this year, I think is maybe one 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.360 of the best minor league seasons we've ever seen. Forget 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.600 that this is first minor league season, but just period 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.919 how dominant he's been. Because there's so much context to 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.800 it too. They throw Kate Anderson straight into Double A 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.360 and it's a Double A Texas League where he's put 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.880 up ninety three to the thirds innings, He's pitched to 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.960 a one point zero sixty RA. He has struck out 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.120 one hundred and thirty five batters and walked thirteen on 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.520 his way to a point sixty four win. The crazy 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.359 part about this, on top of the fact that the 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.000 surface level numbers are absolutely ridiculous, is something I've talked 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.719 about ad nauseum on the call up think is the 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.839 ball is flying in the minor leagues. You talk to 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.320 guys around the minor leagues, they'll tell you there's something 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.000 different with the baseball. It's just flying at a different level. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.400 And you see that through the OPS numbers, the home 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.160 run numbers across minor league baseball, and even see it 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.920 in the Texas League, where offense is always a little 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.640 bit high. The average ERA in the Texas League is 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.800 five point four, but at the same time you also 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.560 it's like five. But at the same time you also 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.680 have OPS up sixty points in this league because of 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.159 the way the ball is flying. Some other leagues have 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.200 the OPS numbers up even more. And in a year 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.479 where it's inflated offense across the board, you have Kate 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.640 Anderson putting up the only season we've ever really seen, 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.920 at least in the last decade. I can look at 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.719 right now where we've seen ninety plus innings at an 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:02.039 ERA below one point three. That to me is just 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.440 mind blowing. And when you pair it with the fact 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.479 that offense is really off the charts this year in 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.640 a lot of these different leagues, basically every minor league 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.280 league aside from Triple A where they use the big 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.320 league ball, it's pretty crazy and makes it easy to 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.360 understand why the Mariners feel like this guy can maybe 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.320 help them even if you can only throw every fifth day, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.880 give them a shot in the arm that they need 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.280 right now. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.200 Well, clearly that's incredible outlier stuff when you're talking about 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.480 his ERA being four and a half runs better than 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.320 league average. Yes, obviously come to the big leagues. Don't 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.560 expect him to pitch you an ERA in the low ones. 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.200 But it feels like, you know, especially when you're talking 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.760 about a pitching prospect, there's a pretty good chance, especially 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.520 when the book's not fully out on these guys, that 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.960 they're going to translate early. Like it's easier to imagine 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.640 the top pitching prospect coming up and giving you a 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.480 shot in the arm than the top hitting prospect coming 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.840 up and lifting a lineup. So for the Mariners right now, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.120 get anything you can, because, like you said, honestly, one 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.240 thing that I had a side aside him before and 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.080 you mentioned the wildcard race or the division I was curious, like, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.080 which is the easier path for them? And right now 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.560 the wildcard is a little bit closer, but it's four 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.800 games back in the division, three games back in the wildcard. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.120 So yeah, he kind of had two cracks at it, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.720 because the wildcard can get away from you and the 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.360 division could actually still be in reach. So you know, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.440 add a great player to your team, the best that 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.920 you can that's going to translate, and obviously it seems 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.120 like he's going to translate pretty pretty comfortably. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.319 The other party, you brought up a thought in my 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.360 mind where it's like the book's not out really yet, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.800 Like you know, hitters are going to be getting their 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.360 first look at him. Even if you get like the 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.720 game plan, I just don't know what it would be, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.079 because what's Mae kan Anderson so much better than everybody 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.920 else that he's faced in the minor leagues is that 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.080 he can go to anything whenever he wants. Like the 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.839 fastball average is ninety four, but it's got great carry 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.240 to it, so that really sets the tone. But then 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.800 he's got a slider, a change up in a curveball, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.360 all of which he's landing for a strike at a 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.680 high clip, especially the slider and the change up seventy 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.920 percent strike right on those pitches that he will go 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.360 to in any count, Like it looks like sometimes he's 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.880 just throwing like a stand in bullpen where oh oh, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.839 he flips in a curve ball and guys like man 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.480 and then and then oh, one flipping in a change up, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.559 and then they'll blow the fastball by you. And then 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.400 next that bat hole completely flip the script and go fastball, fastball, fastball, 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.120 So like you're just completely in a blender. There's no 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.080 like sequence that you can start to pick up on 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.800 with Kid because he has so much confidence in every 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.080 single offering. And yeah, the Texas League is five flat 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.520 this year, and and you're seeing five point four runs 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.920 per game, and the fact that you know you're getting 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.160 Kid pitching to a one point zero six is just 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.120 crazy crazy stuff. Again where across the minor league, the 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.440 league's home runs in particular are up big time, big 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.319 time in Texas. The Texas League is always a tough place. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.120 It's it puts me into a thought in tough place 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.040 for pitchers, it puts me into a thought. Though. Here 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.160 good the Mariners have moved another arm because remember Louis Castillo. Great, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.280 you got off of that contract. That was a good trade, right, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.640 you get Sir Anthony de Mnguez in kind of this 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.360 bad contract swap. But Sir Anthony is a little bit 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.440 more useful for you, probably given the depth that they have, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.800 given the way that Emerson Hancock is thrown. But remember 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.559 there was a point where there were reports out there 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.240 from very credible people saying that Emerson Hancock was very 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.280 likely to be moved to the deadline. Maybe that was 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.280 under the presumption that you wouldn't end up moving Louis Castillo. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.480 But I think about it from this lens, like clear 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.640 the Mariners are focused on making the playoffs here, and 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.120 you've got a lot of people that are trying to 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.880 keep their jobs, I think from top to bottom. However, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.840 just for organizational health standpoint, I think they could have 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.120 traded one of these starters to actually get a prospect 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.200 return here and then plug Kate Smith, right, and you 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.640 also have Ryan Sloan for depth too, and that would 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.720 be a little bit more of like a bold move. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.080 And also I think that would be another move where 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.160 it's like, Okay, that is a guy I would love 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.880 to have contact with through spring training and stuff like that. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.400 But I don't know. I think about it in a 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.160 situation where if the Mariners don't turn things around in 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.960 the next few weeks, they're not going to make the 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.360 playoffs and they will have now lost out on an 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.760 opportunity to cash in on, you know, an Emerson Hancock, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.960 who probably the most likely to be moved there for 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.480 a huge Hall and then of course they could go 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.520 make that trade later. But I just wonder if it'll 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.600 be the same Hall, especially with all the stuff that 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.280 we're going to have going on the off season. I 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.840 just wonder if they should have moved them. I'm curious 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.560 where you stand on that. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.160 I think the reason why you kept that rotation together 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.920 is because you figure that is your strength and if 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.880 you are able to, you know, sneak your way in, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.360 that's what could allow you to actually go on a run. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.080 So I get it to some respect. But also when 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.840 you see what the Blue Jay's got for Jose Soreano, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.720 you know, what would you have gotten for Hancock? What 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.920 would you have got for George Kirby? And you know 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.400 you don't have all these guys forever. Like Handcock, you 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.480 actually have a lot of control over I think Kirby's 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.040 like two more years after this season. So considering what 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.720 you had coming and the ability to still have five 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.599 six ers who are young under control, even if you 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:12.160 traded one, you know, especially since they haven't done great 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.200 coming out of the deadline, it makes it look worse. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.240 Right if the Mariners came out of the out of 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:18.839 the deadline and they won a bunch of games, and 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.400 they're signing the playoff spot right now, we're not questioning 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.120 as much. But now as you're looking at it at 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.880 a season where it might actually be a kind of 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.840 a lost year for you and you're trying to get 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.840 next year you're not gonna get, you wouldn't think the 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.080 same value for those pitchers this offseason. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.600 Yeah, And that's that's where I just I go back 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.199 and forth. I know you also don't want to signify 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.559 to your team that you're very much trying to invest 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.880 in right now to uh, you know, you're you're subtracting 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.559 pieces there. But if it would ever be the most 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.400 palatable swap maybe in the history of like selling moves 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.920 to to convince a team that you're not fully selling, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.640 is ye removing a starting pitcher for a good return 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.000 and then plugging in the most dominant minor league pitch 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.880 prospect that we've seen in decades. That would probably work. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.760 And just another number that Podcast p pointed out here, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.560 So we have ERA A minus in the minor leagues, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.200 which basically works like a reverse WRC plus. So like 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.400 the lower the number the better, and you know the 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.640 gap would be, you know, how much better you are 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:20.040 than league average. Caen Anderson's eer A minus is twenty four, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.760 like two thousand's Pedro was thirty five, which I think 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:28.880 is crazy, absolutely crazy to think about just how much better. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.719 And it's kind of similar like Pedro throwing through the 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.559 steroid era where everybody's dras were just you know, ballooned. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.600 This season in the minor leagues has almost been like 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.320 the steroid era, Like there's been jokes it's like there's 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.959 something wrong with the ball where every player is on steroids. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.120 It's been like the joke about it because of how 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.720 much offense we've seen through the minor leagues, and like, yeah, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.320 they got Boston Smith. It's a good point by ten 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.040 toes down in the last casto tre Boston Smith has 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.559 had a really nice year. I don't know if that's 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.640 a franchise altering prospect or a guy that you're like 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.439 shark being into your plans. Was a nice get in 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.760 a bad contract swap there with Wiscus TiO, But I 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.160 think about what they could have gotten for some of 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.760 these other starters, and it becomes, you know, it just 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.440 becomes interesting to think about because now you've got Kate 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.520 on the forty and you're gonna still often now create 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.320 space going into next year anyways, and how they go 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.160 about that will be interesting to find out, especially with 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.280 Ryan Swoan on his heels as well. Do you have 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.000 any other thoughts on the Mariners, Like Kate is going 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.880 to give them a little bit of life here one 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.920 left e in the rotation, I'm gonna be I'm interested 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.480 to see how they navigate that too, because you know 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.160 they still have five bodies in there. But at the 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.400 end of the day, it's the offense, right, I mean, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.200 like the Kate. Even if Kate throws a perfect game 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.240 every fifth day or sixth I don't know how that's 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.000 going to work. They still have a lot of other 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.320 things they have to sort out well. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.400 And that would have been the other thing too, had 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.200 you made a trade where you got a bad back 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.760 with control that was close to Bigley Ready or a 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.520 big like it kind of felt like Hancock would have 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.000 been the perfect big leaguer for big leaguer type trade. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.360 Now we don't know what was out there, what was 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.080 on the table, and they might have just not gotten 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.520 any good offers. And there might have even been around 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.920 the league maybe some kind of like eyebrows raised of well, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.680 why do you want to trade the guy with that 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.640 much control a Hancock, Like are you not buying into 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.080 the breakout season? And maybe they just didn't get great 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.240 offers there and if that's the case, we can't really 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.840 judge him. I guess the one other thing that came 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.760 to mind as you were talking this through is like 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.160 the notion of you could have called Kate Anderson up 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.680 after making the trade, Like nothing has changed right for 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.640 Kate Anderson in the last two and a half weeks. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.000 That makes it different to promote him now than promoting 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.720 him on August fourth, Right. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.160 I think the biggest thing that's changed is that some 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:46.920 of the other guys are not throwing the way that 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.040 they want them to, right, Like Brian wu gets to 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.840 start pushback, and and Bryce Miller has, you know, not 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.920 been as good as he has as he was at 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.600 the start of the season. Like that's the biggest thing 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.480 that's changed at Kate Anderson's the same exact guy, And 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.880 I think Miller's struggles have been the biggest reason why 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.640 You'll get five earned runs last time out five and 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.560 runs before that, four before that, and then you go 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.000 two starts further back, another five earned run outing there. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.960 So it's just that's been I think the biggest thing. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.840 And I get it though, because when you were going 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.440 into the end of July, you started to see Bryce 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.200 Moore slowing down. But remember when he first came back, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.400 he was dominating, you know, with the best of them. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.400 So I think they wanted a little bit more clarity there. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.440 It's tough spot. I don't envy, you know, with the 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.920 Poto and company have had to kind of work with 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.200 their because I do think they put together a pretty 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.440 good roster. Just shit hit the fan dude, like who 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.080 would have thought? 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:36.400 So. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.240 I thought the Brendan Donovan trade was good. It has not. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.840 He has not been as available as you'd want. He's 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.560 only had one hundred fifty fur play appearances year. He's 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.000 been good when he's been on the field. I thought 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.640 bringing back Josh Naylor was great. He's been very whatever. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.680 You know, cal Rawley has had the most mind blowing 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.000 follow up to an MVP caliber season that we can remember. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.120 And and then this rotation, which is like you could 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:00.440 you feel like you could just put your head on 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.640 the pillow and sleep soundly like you put together, You've 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.199 you've cultivated this dream rotation and even Everson Hancock is 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.600 breaking out like what could go wrong? But it just 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.200 seems like every time one guy gets hot, two other 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.840 guys slow down, and this rotation just can't quite cook 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.399 together at the same time. And then Munios. It just 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.120 feels like a parlay of misfortune. Which speaking of this episode, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.360 I didn't say on the top of Protea by BENMGM, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.640 use code just baseball, you get your bonus bet back. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.639 I'm not doing this very often. I'm I'm I'm not 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.320 the guy for this, but you get up to fifteen 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.480 hundred back in bonus bets if you use code just Baseball. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.399 Check that out. Peter's throwing out football bets all that 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.280 good stuff. Man, I butchered that. Sorry to the folks 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.399 at MGM if they saw that, Uh, you. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.000 Don't run what else? Man? It's okay. You're you know, you're, you're, 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.080 you're you're a two guard. We know this, you know. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.879 Yeah, I'm I'm a volume shooter. I'm not dishing it 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.520 out too much. But usually when Peter, when Peter's ripping 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.280 that read, I am up all of my tabs trying 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.560 to figure out how I can organize all of my notes. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.720 But just so you know, it's code just baseball, and 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.320 you can get all of your first bet back in 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.560 bonus bets there with bet MGM. I think a lot 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.840 of people to that point. Actually, Peter pointed this out 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.600 at the start of the year had Mariners to win 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.960 the division. So if you use that code, at least 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.399 a lot of people will be getting that back in 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.520 bonus bets because that was I think one of the 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.520 most popular bets of the year because it was obvious 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.280 they were so good on the surface. Any final thoughts 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.800 on the Mariners before we transition into other quick potential 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:32.760 September call ups. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.600 Final thoughts is, if you made that bet before the season, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.280