1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: app and we are going to talk now with alex 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Vana Wave. He wrote a piece for the California Post 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: quite stunning. For years and years, LA County supervisors and 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: the media, and the DA's office years ago, the Attorney 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: General's office years ago, they kept insisting that there were 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: sheriff's sheriff's deputy gangs running amok, and that maybe fifteen 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: hundred deputies belonged in these deputy gangs. And now the 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: Office of Inspector General, in a report February twenty sixth 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: of this year, states plainly that there are none. 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Zero. 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: There is no group that meets the legal definition of 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: a law enforcement gang under California law. The whole thing 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: was a hoax, primarily to smear Alex Vin Aeva, who 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: is the sheriff at the time, and he lost the 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: reelection bid. He's now running for the office again. And 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: we're going to talk with alex Vin Aweva, former La 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: County sheriff and current candidate. Alex How are. 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: You not too bad? John? How are you doing? 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: I am doing great? And I heard the charges that 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: there were so many gangs in the Ali County Sheriff's 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: Department that I assumed that there must have been, because 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: the reports just kept coming up and coming up and 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: from all different quarters. And now you tell me, or 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: you tell the world in this piece that you wrote 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: for the Post, there's apparently no such thing at all. 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Was this whole thing a hoax just to destroy you? 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: The whole thing was a hoax. 30 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: It was a political smear campaign because notice all these 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: people the department was at the time was, you know, 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 4: probably nine thousand plus strong. The very same deputies that 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: worked under McDonald worked under me. And how all of 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: a sudden it became gang members when I was working 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: as sheriff, but not wonder McDonald or any previous sheriff. 36 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: It just materialized overnight when I took office, and then 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: when I left office, they magically disappeared. And I'm quoting 38 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: the Oversight Commission. They said it was an existential crisis. 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: That existential crisis disappeared with not a single deputy fired 40 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: or prosecuted for being a gang member. 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: So, yes, the public was duped. 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: You're right that the Office of Inspector General claimed they 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: were investigating Deputy gangs for years. The district attorney's office 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: had a criminal grand jury investigating the state attorney's Attorney 45 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: General's office had a multi year investigation. All of them 46 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: came up with nothing. 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: Nothing. 48 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: I kept it, but I kept an open mind the 49 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: entire time. I said, if you think you have anybody 50 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: that qualifies as a gang member, please tell me who 51 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: they are. I'll be more than happy to investigate, termine, terminate, 52 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 4: and prosecute. 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: If they're involved in crime. And no one ever. 54 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: Stepped up to the play said, hey, that deputy over 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 4: there is a gang member. 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: There were local investigations, state investigations, federal investigations, and through 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: all that you write that you kept asking everybody one 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: simple question. 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Tell the audience what the one question. 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Was, name them all. 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: I asked who are they? And they could not answer 62 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: that question. No one could answer that question. But what 63 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: they did come up with is I guess they get 64 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: put it in the art section of a library, an 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: anthology of tattoos that they found. And you know what, 66 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: every military organization has tattoos. The LAPD has tattoos, and 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: YPD has tattoos. Every large paramilitary organization that has sub 68 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: units is going to have unit specific tattoos, does not 69 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: make any of them a gang members, and never made 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: a deputy a gang member either, So. 71 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: They'd have to tattoos to identify themselves as a member 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: of the specific unit. And that's as far as it went. 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: That's as far as it ever went. 74 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: And the thing is, if you can't connect the group 75 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: to misconducts, you've got nothing but a group. I mean, 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: the legislation they passed in Sacramento is wildly unconstitutional because 77 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: they're trying to ban people basically associating with themselves outside 78 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: the confines of employment. And you can probably imagine that 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: is wildly on constitution of violation the First Amendment rights. 80 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: It's when they're the nexus to misconduct is when the 81 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: employer has an obligation to intervene. And I said, show 82 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: me the misconduct. Where is this magical existential crisis? 83 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: And no one would ever. 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: Step up to the place said, yeah, these people are 85 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 4: gang members, look at them. 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: So when Jim McDonald was with sheriff, nobody ever accused 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: McDonald of having deputy gangs. 88 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: No, no they did not. In fact, it was a 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: fringe element. Then the far far left, the ones that 90 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: want to defund law enforcement. They were banging a drum, 91 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: and that drum was picked up in twenty twenty with 92 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: the wildfire that spread of by the George Floyd tragedy, 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, let's really push this 94 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: deputy gang narrative. Let's make a staid law that forbids it. 95 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 4: And we already put a policy in places said hey, 96 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 4: if you form a group that violates the harms people 97 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: or employees of the organization, you will be dealt with 98 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: and faith discipline. 99 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: And after you were replaced by Robert Luna, Luna has 100 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: never been accused of harboring deputy gangs either. 101 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Huh. 102 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 4: Apparently all of a sudden, that fervor to accuse them 103 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: that disappeared all of a sudden. We don't have but 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 4: they said. 105 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: There were fifteen hundred deputies in gangs. 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: Fifteen hundred, Yes, one out of every six deputies was 107 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: accused of being a gang member. 108 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: What did that do to your staff? What did that 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: do to the sheriff's department? 110 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: Well, for our administration, we understood it was just a 111 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: political campaign, and we were able to basically circle the 112 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: wagons and people had faith in the leadership and we 113 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: kept recruiting. In fact, we set record levels of recruitment 114 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: and so it didn't harm us. But once we left office, 115 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, no one wants to join the 116 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: Sheriff's department under Luna. Now we have a massive staffing 117 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 4: crisis that the cost in terms of human cause, physical costs, 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: and the real cost is just mind bottling. 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: All right, can you hang on another segment? 120 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: I want to talk about your campaign and all the 121 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: issues that you're running on to get back into office. 122 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: Robert vian a Weeva. 123 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robert vian a Weeva, I'm sorry. 124 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: Alex via Aeva the former sheriff, and he's running for 125 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: election again against Robert Luna, the current sheriff. And we 126 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 2: will continue with Alex van Ova. 127 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Oh way, who's getting dementia? Look? 128 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: I had my meat already for lunch. I had a cheeseburger, 129 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: so I got like a vaccine. Where'd you have? 130 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: I had bean rice and a salad. 131 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I'll forget it. You're going to be done by eight o'clock. Well, 132 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm already talking. You see. It's sapped your energy, your 133 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: lack of protein. 134 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI am sixty. 135 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Subscribe on YouTube. 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And we told 144 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: you in the first segment that all those stories and 145 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: investigations of deputy gangs in the La County Sheriff's department 146 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: when Vian Ojeva was sheriff, according to the Office of 147 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Inspector General, there is no such thing. There was never 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: such a thing as deputy gangs. It was total nonsense, 149 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: a complete smear job, fake news. 150 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: All that. Let's talk to Alex. 151 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Now. 152 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Alex, So we had the county at four years. 153 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Of you, now four years of Robert Luna. Now you're 154 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: running up against him again. What are you running on? 155 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: What is it that you can bring that he's not 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: doing or that you can do better. Like, what's the 157 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: important stuff in this race that you want to get across. 158 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: The single most important thing is to have a fully 159 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: staffed Sheriff's department that can do its job in terms 160 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: of providing safety on the streets and the presence in custody, 161 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: to maintain a functional constitutional conditions of confinement, and to 162 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: address the major issues of the day homelessness, crime, public corruption, 163 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: which is now rearing its ugly head. We cannot do 164 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: that today because one we're missing probably over three thousand 165 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: sworn on the department and it's eshambles. 166 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: As we speak. So I'll point to you two numbers 167 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: that'll kind of scare you. 168 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: I compared twenty nineteen, my first year on the job, 169 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: with Luna's first year on the job twenty twenty three, 170 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: and arrest dropped by a staggering forty nine point three percent. 171 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: That represents over fifty thousand arrests part one crimes, the 172 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: serious crimes increased by seventeen percent. Accordingly, those are huge numbers, 173 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: and it's directly related to the inability of the current 174 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: sheriff to do his job and attract people to want 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: to be a deputy sheriff. 176 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: So that's the central problem is he can't get the recruitment. 177 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: What's he doing wrong? 178 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: Well, when you throw your own employees under the bus 179 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: for your own political benefit, you're not going to attract 180 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: people that want to do the job. Your workforce are 181 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: your number one recruiters, and if they have no trust 182 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: in the leadership because you've created a toxic work environment, 183 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: they're going to sit down their hands. And that's exactly 184 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: what's happening right now. 185 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: In what way did he do that? 186 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: Well, you have the Trevor Kirkkeig this one fine example 187 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: where he sought out a federal prosecution of a low 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: level what's called Category one use of force and he 189 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: got a deputy convicted federally for violating constitutional rights. This 190 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 4: is unheard of in the law enforcement history. Those federal 191 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: prosecutions are reserved for deadly uses of force, where there's 192 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: evidence of serious crimes involved in planning, a forethought, all 193 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: of those things. None of that was present here. This 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: was a gratuitas Biden administration, and hey, let's show them 195 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: what we can do. And so a deputy is basically 196 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 4: his life has been destroyed. 197 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: And every other deputy saw. 198 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: That and said, you know what, we're not going to 199 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: stick our neck out and do proactive police work anymore. 200 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: And what was Robert Luna's role in that in getting 201 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: that deputy convicted? 202 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: He shopped that case to the federal government, because get 203 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: a load of this. George Gascon, himself, not a friend 204 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: of law enforcement, refused to prosecute the case. So he 205 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: went and he shopped at federally and they did him 206 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: a favor, the Biden administration. And that's exactly how that unfolded. 207 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: And why did he want one of his deputies to 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: be convicted of a federal crime so badly? Why not 209 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: just handle it internally if there was some kind of violation. 210 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 4: Well that's the way it's supposed to be handled. But 211 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: he was trying to curry favor with Black Lives Matter 212 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: Los Angeles with a cancel of contract crowd up in 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: the high desert, and he thought, hey, this is a 214 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: great way to make me look good in front of 215 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: that crowd, and I guess, you know, to hell with 216 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: the workforce. And that's what he did. And those are 217 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: the consequences, and that's. 218 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: A bell you cannot unring. 219 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: So really three thousand deputy short is part of that 220 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: because the supervisors won't fund the sheriff's department. I know 221 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: they were trying to cut your budget when you were there. 222 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Oh, they cut my budget two years in a row 223 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 4: to the two and two hundred and sixty one million dollars. 224 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: Then they pretended that they didn't do it. They froze 225 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: our ability to hire. Then they cut twelve hundred and 226 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: eighty one positions from our authorized budget numbers. So they 227 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: went out of their way to screw over the Sheriff's 228 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: department and probation. And then when Luna showed up, they said, oh, 229 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: all is good. Now you can hire whoever you want, 230 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: and here's all the money you need. And of course 231 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: he can't bring ants to a picnic, so it doesn't matter. 232 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: That's why we have the staffing crisis we have today. 233 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: Fifteen suicide I mean, all these people that teen suicides, 234 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: fifteen suicides on the department, all on Luna's watch. 235 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: And what explains that? If anything, how's that? What's the 236 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: reason is? There is there an overarching reason or two 237 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: that explains all those suicides. 238 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: There is a contributing factor, the toxic work environment, the 239 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: enormous amount of overtime. Differtors are being forced to work 240 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 4: because there's no deputies left. Every single patrol station has 241 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: a skeleton crew and their work in double shifts, back 242 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: to back to back, double shifts. I mean, the amount 243 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: of overtime is mind bothering. Under my administration, we spent 244 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: about one hundred million on overtime. He's passed the half 245 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: billion markets on overtime and they're not seeing the people 246 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: about it. 247 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: So you're you're laying a case for gross mismanagement by Luna. 248 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: This is a gross Smiths management. It will be case 249 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: study in universities for years to come about how not 250 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: to lead a sheriff's department. You got a collapsing nine 251 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: to one one system, computer aided dispatches falling apart. We 252 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: are emergency management capacity has been destroyed because he doesn't 253 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: have emergency management teams. They're not properly trained. We saw 254 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: that last year in the fires, when it was basically 255 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: do it yourself evacuation system it didn't work. 256 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: That was. 257 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be kicked out. Everybody ought to be 258 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: kicked out for that fiasco. All right, thank you for 259 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: coming on, Alex being a way that we will talk again, 260 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: all right. That was good John running for sheriff in 261 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: La County against Robert Luna. 262 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI A 263 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: M six. 264 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: Forty is eighty seven seven moist eighty six eight seven 265 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: seven moist eighty six Friday. We play it back twice 266 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: at five twenty and five point fifty or usually talkback 267 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: feature on the iHeartRadio app. This pisses me off, and 268 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: it should piss you off. You know how many streets 269 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: and highways are dark in the city of Los Angeles 270 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: in my neighborhood for a while, for months, our neighborhood 271 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: went dark. Lights are out. I guess there were thieves 272 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: outside my house one one night, rip it out the 273 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: copper wires. For years, in years, the four h five 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: has been in the dark coming over the Supulvida Pass. 275 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: And you see the story in the paper almost every day. 276 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: Well on the internet, there's not much paper anymore. Can't 277 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: get that phrase out of my head. And they pulled 278 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: the thieves, the thieves that they will not arrest, that 279 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: they will not put in jail even if they do arrest, 280 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: and they all the copper wire. They can find and 281 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: the city goes dark, and Karen Bass's attitude is, well, 282 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do about it? Meantime, 283 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: she's defunded the police. We're short almost two thousand cops. 284 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Jim McDonald says, we were probably short by time the 285 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Olympics come, you know, three thousand cops, maybe four thousand 286 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: cops by then. So listen to this. City council voted 287 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: thirteen to one to go forward with a plan to 288 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: fix up to sixty thousand lights. Sixty thousand lights. They 289 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: want to install solar street lighting. Like they've given up 290 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: on the idea of enforcing the law, right, I mean, 291 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: they have copper wire in cities all over the country. 292 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Why is it LA's having everything stolen? Is it is 293 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: not going on to this extent everywhere else? She defunded 294 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: the police, and but you know she's campaigning now. So well, 295 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: when people say they do not feel safe, one of 296 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: the reasons they don't feel safe is they drive up 297 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: and down their streets or walk at night and it's 298 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: completely dark. Well, thanks a lot, Karen, You notice that. Huh, 299 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: she's always telling us it's safe. 300 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: Now. 301 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: Somebody said, well, since most of the city hates you. 302 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: Maybe you should stop telling them that it's safe, because 303 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: nobody feels safe because it's dark and you have crazy 304 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: drug addicts and menacing mental patients jumping out from behind 305 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: trees and light poles all the time. Can't walk to 306 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: a restaurant in our neighborhood. So get this, here's the catch. 307 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: Who's gonna pay for all these fixed lights? Property owners? 308 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: The city council voted as part of this deal to 309 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: advance a fee increase. They're gonna raise a tax. They're 310 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: going to tax you to fix the lights because they 311 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: never enforced the law on the copper thieves and they 312 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: never put these guys in prison. Because they didn't put 313 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: the guys in prison, because they don't pay for a 314 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: real police force, a full police force. I should say, 315 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: we now have to pay for the solar lighting switch. 316 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: The official say, we have to address a growing crisis 317 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: driven by rampant copper wire theft, aging infrastructure, and years. 318 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: Of flat funding. 319 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: Because you spent it all on the homeless, you bunch 320 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: of clowns and a bunch of vegetables. 321 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: They spent it. 322 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: They wasted it on the homeless, and they allow the 323 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: homeless to run around and they're probably the ones stealing 324 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: the copper wire. So now we got to pay for 325 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: a new solar lighting system. Another tax. We paid a 326 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: tax on the homeless. They blew the money, they stole 327 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: the money. Homeless are still out there, the street gangs 328 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: and local thugs are out there stealing the wire. Supporters 329 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: of the tax says LA is no longer dealing with 330 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: routine maintenance. They're dealing with a system that keeps getting 331 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: stripped for parts. Well, it didn't used to be that 332 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: way not long ago. It's because Bass stopped enforcing the law. 333 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: It's like the story we talked about last hour, the 334 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: latest Fox eleven story that Christina Gonzales did the woman yesterday. 335 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: Remember there was a story from a couple of days ago. 336 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: Matthew Sedar found this about a woman living underground in 337 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: a sewer and she would somebody stole the manhole cover, 338 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: so she's climbed into the store and was living. 339 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Down there, and she was climbing in and out of 340 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: the sewer and it's on a. 341 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Street filled with filthy, disgusting RVs and the homeless people. 342 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: And they've been flushing all the waste and it's been 343 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: going into the sewer right on top of that lady. 344 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Because that area where she was living underneath is so 345 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: disgusting that it was declared a hot zone. 346 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: They closed the block. 347 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: They got a hasbad team there to clean up whatever 348 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: she was living in in the store. 349 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: It was too disgusting even for a sewer. 350 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: Right, they don't bring a hasbat team to every sewer 351 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: opening every sword. Great, they brought a hasbad team to 352 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: this sewer. Great, to this open manhole coverer because somebody. 353 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: Stole the cover. Now what do you do with that? 354 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: So now they are going to tax homone one hundred 355 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: and twenty five million dollars for the street light repairs, 356 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: for this solar system, one hundred and twenty five million 357 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: dollars because for years and years they blew the money 358 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: on the homeless, They defunded the police, they didn't enforce 359 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: the law in La Is dark at night. Out of 360 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: fourteen council people who voted, only one, Monica Rodriguez, voted no, 361 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: saying the city should not ask residents and businesses to 362 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: absorb higher costs without at least presenting a maintenance strategy, 363 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: at least fake it and say you're going to stop 364 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: all the vandalism. You're going to stop the theft, You're 365 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: going to stop the destruction to waste one hundred and 366 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars in taxes, She says, at a 367 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: time when we talk about the rent being too damn 368 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: high for affordability, I just want to remind everybody this 369 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: also affects affordability in the city at a very difficult 370 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: time with families and businesses. 371 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you all got to pay more taxes. 372 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: Part of the West Side current thieves have repeatedly ripped 373 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: copper wire from conduits, knock out power to entire stretches 374 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: of street lights and leave neighborhood start for weeks or 375 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: months at a time. And mar Vista this year on 376 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: the West Side, copper thieves knocked out the street lights, 377 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: multiple blocks dark. Today one in ten street lights in 378 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: the city will sit dark. The Bureau of street Lighting 379 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: has been operating on a frozen budget, says the over 380 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: fed U. 381 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: And this is Hernandez. 382 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: Well, the council is in charge of the budget, but 383 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: you blew it on the homeless crux. You let all 384 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: a nonprofit crux steal the homeless money. We ended up 385 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: with more homeless and we had no money for street 386 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: lighting and no money for the police. 387 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: These are crazy people. You know. Nearly everybody should be 388 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: voted out of. 389 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: Office, but no, all the vegetables are gonna vote for 390 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: the same vegetables to represent them. 391 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Got more coming up. 392 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 393 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: six forty. 394 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: I have word that the subscribers to YouTube, we're fifty 395 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: short now a five thousand, fifty short, So subscribe already 396 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: and be the the five thousand. I can't say that 397 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash at John cobelt show, YouTube dot 398 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: com slash at John Cobelt' show and moistline. 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Here 412 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: you are. 413 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: I could barely get off my sofa. Let alone interact 414 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: with thousands of people eight different ways. But everyone seems 415 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: to be having a good time, so we'll keep it going. 416 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: Oh after five o'clock, USC professor Michael Mache. He warned 417 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: us wes the year ago six dollar gas coming to California, 418 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: and what did I pay five ninety nine and nine 419 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: tenths of a cent two days ago? So I got 420 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: the six dollar gas and Eric got the six tozho 421 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: nine gas. And we're gonna talk to Michael MChE and 422 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: he's gonna tell us what the effect will be now 423 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: that Trump has uh toward oil production off the Santa 424 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Barbara Coast, how that might help us here in California 425 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: since Newsom has destroyed and stopped most of the oil production. 426 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: So Michael Mache is coming on with us in just 427 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: a few minutes after Deborah's news. Okay, this accused arsonist 428 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: Jonathan rendered render necked. He has still been sitting in jail, 429 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: no bail since November. They say he started the Lockman 430 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: fire on New Year's Eve, on New Year's Day morning, 431 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: I should say, and this was the thing that the 432 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: firefighters never fully put out. It kept smoldering, and then 433 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: it exploded to the Palisades fire, and they found some 434 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: attorney in Arizona named Stephen Haney. Rendernick's family hired this 435 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: hany character, and he's got a doozy of a cover story. 436 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Listen. 437 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: He says there were fireworks heard by witnesses being set 438 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: off and that's what started the fire, saying that the 439 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: ATF official who headed the investigation is ignoring multiple witnesses 440 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: of hearing a loud bang and a flash of light 441 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 2: and that was the instance the fire started. Now, Haini 442 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: also in the same filing, it's almost like, hey, if 443 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: you don't like that one, how about this one that 444 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: rinder necked potentially sparked the fire with a cigarette that 445 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 2: he threw on the ground, but that was not an intentional. 446 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Act of arson. So he's giving you a choice. 447 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: We go choice A it was somebody else shooting off 448 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: fireworks who, well, he doesn't know. Or B Yeah it 449 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: was my guy. Yeah he threw a cigarette. Yeah the 450 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: cigarette was lit, but that wasn't intentional. Where did they 451 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: get this guy, like from some trailer in the desert. 452 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: Haini wants a judge to bring another case that the 453 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: agent Matthew Beals worked on in San Diego that led 454 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: to an acquittal of a sailor who was charged with 455 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: arson after a fire broke out on a naval ship, 456 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: and a nineteen year old sailor was accused of setting 457 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: the fire, and he was acquitted in twenty twenty two. 458 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: And he wants to show that this ATF agent who 459 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: investigated the naval ship fire jumped to a conclusion, because 460 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: that's what he does, apparently saying this ATF agent botched 461 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: the San Diego investigation of this sailor on the naval ship, 462 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: and now he's botched the render necked investigation about the fire. Actually, 463 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: you know, I think they should skip the trial on 464 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: this guy and just put Karen Bass in jail. Send 465 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: this guy back to Florida, say hey, maybe it was 466 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: a cigarette, maybe it was fireworks, it doesn't matter. Karen 467 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: Bass was an Africa, She's the one who should be 468 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: in jail anyway. That's the deal I would make if 469 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: I was district attorney. 470 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: But that's ridiculous. 471 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: I cannot stand hearing lawyers with their alternate theories because 472 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: they're so preposterous. Except there's so many stupid vegetables in 473 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: the world who believed the alternate theories. Well, it could be. 474 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: You don't know, all right, Michael Mache is coming on. 475 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: Michael MChE is a professor at USC and within the 476 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: past week, Donald Trump has issued an executive order, the 477 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: Defense Production Act, ordering the Sable ordering the oil production 478 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: infrastructure off Santa Barbara restart that we can get up 479 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: to fifty five thousand barrels of oil a day. And 480 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: that's what they're doing. Sable Oil is now sending that oil. 481 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: They had a lot in storage. Newsom is trying to 482 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: stop it with a lawsuit, but Sable is sending the oil. 483 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: They're sending it to the El Segunda refinery that Chevron owns, 484 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: so Chevron's willing to refine the oil into gasoline. This 485 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: is a big deal And Michael MChE is gonna explain 486 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: this because we've hit I've hit six dollars a gallon. 487 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: I saw that the average price in California is five 488 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: to eighty three, so there's a lot of people paying 489 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: six bucks. Yeah, well, miche told you this year ago. 490 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: Debra Mark live in the KFI twenty four hour news. 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