WEBVTT - Ambrose on Ike

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ambrose was one of America's leading historians. Stephen Ambrose

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<v Speaker 1>passed in two thousand and two, but his storytelling accounts

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<v Speaker 1>can now be heard here at Our American Stories, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to those who run his estate. Ambrose wrote the definitive

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<v Speaker 1>biography of Dwight Eisenhower. Ike was born in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>in a rented shack near the railroad tracks in Dennison, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>He was raised in a fan of Mennonites, fundamentalists in

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<v Speaker 1>their Christian faith were also pacifists. Here's Stephen Ambrose with

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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<v Speaker 2>Drog David Eisenhower was a great and a good man.

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<v Speaker 2>These two qualities don't always or even often go together.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did with him. Obviously, that is an assertion

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<v Speaker 2>that needs proof. Let me begin with some definitions. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four, President Eisenhower wrote his childhood friend Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>Hazlet on the subject of greatness. He thought greatness depended

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<v Speaker 2>either on achieving pre eminence in some broad field of

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<v Speaker 2>human thought or endeavor, or on assuming some position of

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<v Speaker 2>great responsibility, and then so discharging his duties as to

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<v Speaker 2>have left a marked and favorable imprint upon the future.

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<v Speaker 2>The qualities of goodness in a man I believe include

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<v Speaker 2>a broad sympathy for the human condition, that is, an

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<v Speaker 2>awareness of human weaknesses and shortcomings, and a willingness to

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<v Speaker 2>be forgiving of them. A sense of responsibility toward others,

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<v Speaker 2>a genuine modesty combined with justified self confidence, a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of humor, and most of all, a love of life

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<v Speaker 2>and of people. That last is the key. Eisenhower loved life,

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<v Speaker 2>and he loved people. To me, that's the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>his character. From it flowed all the rest. In the

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<v Speaker 2>fall of nineteen twelve, third class Cadet Dwight Eisenhower, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two years old, was walking down a hallway at West

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<v Speaker 2>Point when a plead running full tilt on some fool

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<v Speaker 2>errand for an upperclassman, ran into him knocked him over.

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<v Speaker 2>Reacting with what he called a bellow of astonishment and

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<v Speaker 2>mock indignation, Eisenhower scornfully demanded, mister dumguard a generic term

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<v Speaker 2>for a pleb, what was your PCs previous condition of servitude?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do before you became a cadet? And

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<v Speaker 2>then Eisenhower added, sarcastically, you look like a barber. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a barber, sir. It was Eisenhower's turn to go

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<v Speaker 2>red with embarrassment. Without a word, he returned to his room,

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<v Speaker 2>where he told his roommate, I'm never gonna haze another

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<v Speaker 2>pleab as long as I'm at this place. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, they'll have to run over and knock

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the company street before I'll make any

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<v Speaker 2>attempt again. I've just done something that was stupid and unforgivable.

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<v Speaker 2>I managed to make a man ashamed of what he

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<v Speaker 2>did to earn a living. He never hazed again, and

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<v Speaker 2>as an adult, he never shamed a man. Respect for others,

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<v Speaker 2>honesty in his dealings, love of life. These were some

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<v Speaker 2>of the basic parts of his character. From whence did

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<v Speaker 2>they come. Nurture and nature played their respective roles in

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<v Speaker 2>shaping Dwight Eisenhaer. Physically, he inherited a strong, tough, big

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<v Speaker 2>athletic body and extremely good looks with a quite fabulous grin,

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<v Speaker 2>along with keen intelligence. He also inherited a strong competitive

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<v Speaker 2>streak from his parents, plus a bad temper, along with

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<v Speaker 2>unquestioning love, stern discipline, ambition, and religion. They made him study.

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<v Speaker 2>His parents did read the Bible aloud, do chores, hold jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he was old enough, they instilled in

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<v Speaker 2>him a series of controls over his emotions, his temper.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of all, they gave him a solid Victorian outlook

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<v Speaker 2>on the relations between the sexes and on proper conduct.

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<v Speaker 2>All his life he would blush if he slipped and

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<v Speaker 2>said a hell or a dam in front of a lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Thus he grew up in a strong Christian atmosphere, not

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<v Speaker 2>a sectarian atmosphere. He said once as president that this

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<v Speaker 2>country has to be founded on a strong religious faith,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't care what it is. What he meant

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<v Speaker 2>was he didn't care if it was Baptist or Methodist,

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<v Speaker 2>or Presbyterian or River Brethren. He wants to find an

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<v Speaker 2>atheist as someone who could watch Southern Methodists play Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame and not care who won. As president, he began

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<v Speaker 2>attending church regularly because he felt it was important to

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<v Speaker 2>set an example. It wasn't something that he had done

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in his life, but the religion was always very

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<v Speaker 2>deeply there. He began his first inaugural address with a prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it went over so well he decided to begin

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<v Speaker 2>all of his cabinet meetings with prayers. About a year

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<v Speaker 2>after he'd been in office, he was a half hour

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<v Speaker 2>into a cabinet meeting when he slapped himself on the

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<v Speaker 2>head and said, God, do we forgot the prayer from

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<v Speaker 2>his parents and from his experiences in Abilene, which is

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<v Speaker 2>after all, almost exactly in the heart of America the

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<v Speaker 2>Glower forty eight. He absorbed such values as honesty and

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<v Speaker 2>fair play and all dealings into the very marrow of

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<v Speaker 2>his bones. He abhorred the idea of cheating or lying,

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<v Speaker 2>and he never did either. He also absorbed a fervent

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<v Speaker 2>attachment to democracy that amounted to a religious faith. This

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<v Speaker 2>grew naturally in the soil of that little town out there,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kansas Prairie.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to Stephen Ambrose tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Dwight D. Eisenhower. More of this remarkable story here

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<v Speaker 1>our American Stories, and with the story of Dwight D.

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower told by the person who wrote the best book

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<v Speaker 1>on Ike and we're talking about Stephen Ambrose. Let's return

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<v Speaker 1>to Ambrose with more of this remarkable story.

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<v Speaker 2>At West Point and in his first twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>in the army, Eisenhower satisfied few of his ambitions. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to war in the First War, the Great War,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was still a lieutenant colonel when the Second

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<v Speaker 2>World War began and about to be forcibly retired, but

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<v Speaker 2>he had learned his profession, and he had demonstrated another

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<v Speaker 2>characteristic trait, patience, and it was rewarded. After Pearl Harbor,

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<v Speaker 2>his star arose, and soon he was in Washington making

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<v Speaker 2>war plans for Chief of Staff George Marshall, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on to London to take command of the American forces

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<v Speaker 2>in the European theater of operations. This threw him into

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the great decision making process of the

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<v Speaker 2>Allies at the very highest level in London, dealing daily

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<v Speaker 2>with Prime Minister Winston Churchill. He proved to be an

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<v Speaker 2>outstanding diplomat and politician, not only with Churchill, but with

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<v Speaker 2>de gaul and other French leaders as well. He was

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<v Speaker 2>successful because he was true to his character. The situation

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<v Speaker 2>in North Africa following the invasion in the fall of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty two was exceedingly complicated, with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>false promises coming from the British, the Americans, to the

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<v Speaker 2>various French factions, but not from Eisner. I know only

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<v Speaker 2>one method of operation, he wrote in his diary, to

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<v Speaker 2>be as honest with others as I am with myself.

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<v Speaker 2>When President Franklin Roosevelt pressured him to get tough with

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<v Speaker 2>the local French. Eisenhower refused, explaining, my whole strength and

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the French has been based upon my refusal

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<v Speaker 2>to quibble or to stoop to any kind of subterfuge

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<v Speaker 2>or double dealing. The French responded to this, De Gaulle

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<v Speaker 2>told him, as long as you say that, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was equally successful with his sometimes difficult British subordinates

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<v Speaker 2>and his sometimes egotistical American subordinates. And he'd only mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>the names of Montgomery and Patent. You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. They might not agree with his decisions, but

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<v Speaker 2>they gave him their trust. Indeed, whenever his wartime associates

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<v Speaker 2>described Eisenhower, whether they were superiors or subordinates, there was

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<v Speaker 2>one word that almost every one of them used. It

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<v Speaker 2>was trust. General Montgomery didn't think much of Eisenhower as

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<v Speaker 2>a soldier, but he appreciated other qualities. His real strength

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<v Speaker 2>lies in his human qualities, Montgomery, he said, he has

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<v Speaker 2>the power of drawing the hearts of men towards him,

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<v Speaker 2>as the magnet attracts the bit of metal. He merely

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<v Speaker 2>has to smile at you when you trust him. At

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<v Speaker 2>once scrupulous honesty was an integral part of Eisenhower's character

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<v Speaker 2>and a learned experience. He saw an experienced the payoff

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<v Speaker 2>for this trust. He knew that telling the truth was

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to deal effectively with his problems. He

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<v Speaker 2>also developed a technique to deliver his message. I refuse,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote, I refuse to put anything in diplomatic or

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<v Speaker 2>suave terminology, and carefully cultivate the manner and reputation of

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<v Speaker 2>complete bluntness and honesty. Just a man too simple minded

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<v Speaker 2>to indulge in circumlocution. Thus did the Kansas farm boy

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<v Speaker 2>approach Charles de Gaulle, Ann Winston, Kerchiam and Franklin Roosevelt

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<v Speaker 2>and so many others, and it always worked. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the general who hated war. Some like pat and gloried

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<v Speaker 2>in it, but Eisenhower could not. He signed every letter

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<v Speaker 2>of condolence coming out of Europe for three years, a

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<v Speaker 2>very sobering experience. He was the one who ordered the

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<v Speaker 2>bombing and shelling of German cities. He hated doing that too,

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<v Speaker 2>hated having to destroy when he wanted to build, But

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<v Speaker 2>he did his duty with all his skill and energy.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen forty three, his older brother, Arthur, sent him

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<v Speaker 2>a newspaper clipping that stressed his mother's pacifism and the

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<v Speaker 2>irony of her son being a general. Eisenower wrote back

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<v Speaker 2>to say, the pacifist I doubt whether any of them

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<v Speaker 2>detest war as I do. They probably have not seen

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<v Speaker 2>bodies riding on the ground, or smelled the stinch of

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<v Speaker 2>decaying human flesh. Probably they have not visited a field

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<v Speaker 2>hospital crowded with the desperately wounded. What separates me from

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<v Speaker 2>the pacifist is that I hate the Nazis more than

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<v Speaker 2>I hate war. He told Mamy in a wartime letter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that all these trials and tribulations must come

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<v Speaker 2>upon the world because of some great wickedness. Yet one

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<v Speaker 2>would feel that man's mere intelligence, to say nothing of

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<v Speaker 2>his spiritual perceptions, would find some way of eliminating war.

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<v Speaker 2>The contrast between Eisenhower and those generals who gloried in

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<v Speaker 2>war could not have been greater. He had a very

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<v Speaker 2>keen sense of family, of the way in which each

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<v Speaker 2>casualty meant a grieving family back home. In nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was filming with Walter Cronkite a television special

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<v Speaker 2>entitled D Day Plus twenty years Cronkite sitting on that

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<v Speaker 2>stone wall that looks onto that magnificent cemetery at Omaha.

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<v Speaker 2>Conkie asked him what he thought about when he returned

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<v Speaker 2>to Normandy. In reply, he spoke not of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that other generals would have brought up. He didn't speak

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<v Speaker 2>about the tanks or the guns, or the planes or

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<v Speaker 2>the ships, or the personalities of the commanders of their opponents,

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<v Speaker 2>or how he fooled the Germans or of the victory. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke of the families of the men buried in

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<v Speaker 2>the American cemetery. He said he could never come to

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<v Speaker 2>this spot without thinking of how blessed he and Mami

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<v Speaker 2>were to have grandchildren, and how much it saddened him

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<v Speaker 2>to think of all the couples in America who had

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<v Speaker 2>never had that blessing because their only son was buried here.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, he looks like a saint, But he was

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy, vigorous man in his early fifties during the war,

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<v Speaker 2>and men at war are notoriously receptive to female charm

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<v Speaker 2>when they are far from home and close to danger.

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<v Speaker 2>For many people, the test of character is the marriage vow.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, what about Kay Sommersby. Kay was Ike's

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<v Speaker 2>personal secretary and sometime driver. She was young enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be his daughter, very attractive, with a bubbly personality The

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<v Speaker 2>Churchill and almost everyone else found charming. She had lost

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<v Speaker 2>her fiance in North Africa and had fallen in love

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<v Speaker 2>with her boss. For his part, how could he help it?

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<v Speaker 2>Be responsive? He liked her enormously, probably had a crush

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<v Speaker 2>on her. They were always together, but almost never alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Decades later, in a book published after her death, Kay

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that they had fallen in love and that both

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<v Speaker 2>had realized it. In January nineteen forty four, when he

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<v Speaker 2>returned to England from a short visit to Washington, they

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<v Speaker 2>had their only evening together alone. There was a fireplace.

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<v Speaker 2>They sat on the floor. His kisses absolutely unrattled me,

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<v Speaker 2>Kay wrote. According to her account, it was a passionate

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<v Speaker 2>but unconsummated experience, because after they took off each other's clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower was flastened. This may have been because, as one

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<v Speaker 2>aid put it, in a grand understatement, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on his mind. More likely, it seems to me

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<v Speaker 2>his stern sense of morality, character and honesty overrote his passion.

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<v Speaker 2>He was incapable of cheating on his wife, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if the incident never happened, that it was merely an

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<v Speaker 2>old woman's fantasy. No one will ever know. What is

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<v Speaker 2>important to note is that not even Kay ever claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that they had a genuine love affair. Nor is it

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<v Speaker 2>true that Eisenhower asked President Harry Truman for permission to

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<v Speaker 2>divorce his wife in order to marry Kay, which was

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<v Speaker 2>always a ridiculous story to begin with, because he was

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<v Speaker 2>a five star general. They don't ask anybody's permission to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. What he did ask Truman for was permission

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<v Speaker 2>to have Mamie join him and occupied Germany throughout the war.

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<v Speaker 2>When Kay was with him always, his love for Mamie

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<v Speaker 2>was constant. His sustaining force was the thought that when

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<v Speaker 2>the war was over, he and Mamie could live together again.

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<v Speaker 2>He loved Mamie for half a century, except when he

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<v Speaker 2>was off at war. They slept in the same bed

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to the voice of Stephen Ambrose.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of Dwight D. Eisenhower continues here on our

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<v Speaker 1>American stories, And we continue with our American stories, and

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<v Speaker 1>with the story of Dwight d. Eisenhower is told by

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ambrose, let's return to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Loving Mamy did not necessarily preclude loving Kay, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least loving her under the special situation in which they

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<v Speaker 2>lived from the summer of nineteen forty two to the

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<v Speaker 2>spring of nineteen forty five. He was lucky to have

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<v Speaker 2>her around, and the Allies were lucky she was there.

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<v Speaker 2>The best advice in attempting to pass any judgment on

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<v Speaker 2>the Eisenhower Summersby relationship was given by one of Eisenhower's

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<v Speaker 2>staff officers to an office gossip back in nineteen forty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave Kay and Ike alone. She's helping him win the war.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen thirty nine, when it looked like he might

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<v Speaker 2>be forcibly retired as a lieutenant colonel, his son John

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<v Speaker 2>had asked him if he regretted having spent his career

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<v Speaker 2>in the army. Not at all, he is now replied.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he had found his life in the army

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<v Speaker 2>wonderfully interesting. It brought me into contact with men of ability, honor,

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<v Speaker 2>and a sense of high dedication to their country. The

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<v Speaker 2>real satisfaction for a man is to do the best

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<v Speaker 2>he can. My ambition in the army was to make

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<v Speaker 2>everybody I worked for regretful when I was ordered to

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<v Speaker 2>other duty. Leadership was another part of his character. He

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<v Speaker 2>was born to lead, and he was trained to lead.

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<v Speaker 2>He told John once that leadership was the one art

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<v Speaker 2>that could be learned. But of course only the born

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<v Speaker 2>leader can say that. Eisenhower reinforced his natural talent. He

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<v Speaker 2>studied the subject of leadership intensely, and he wrote some

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<v Speaker 2>of his best analytical material on the subject. An important

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<v Speaker 2>part of leadership for Eisenhower rested on certain matters of character.

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<v Speaker 2>These included modesty and a genuine eagerness to share the applause. Thus,

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<v Speaker 2>through the war, he never forgot how much he was

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on others. Thus, through the war, when reporters came

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<v Speaker 2>to him, he would say, go see Bradley, go see Patton.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your story there. And they're the ones that are

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<v Speaker 2>winning this war for us. Sharing the credit for a

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<v Speaker 2>success and taking the personal blame for what went wrong

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<v Speaker 2>was Eisenhower's leadership style. In all the announcements of D Day,

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<v Speaker 2>the operative words were the Allies or we. In the

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<v Speaker 2>announcement Eisenhower wrote by hand to release to the press

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<v Speaker 2>in the event of failure, The operative word was I,

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<v Speaker 2>as in, it's all my fault. Always take your job seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>never yourself. One of his favorite lines. A corollary to

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<v Speaker 2>that sentiment was his willingness to sacrifice himself for the

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<v Speaker 2>good of the whole. In early nineteen forty four, Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to put the Allied bombers to work on transportation

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<v Speaker 2>targets in France in order to isolate Normandy. The bomber

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<v Speaker 2>commander said no, they wanted to continue the strategic bombing

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<v Speaker 2>campaign inside Germany. Eisenhower felt so strongly about the issue

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<v Speaker 2>that he told the combined chiefs of Staff that either

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<v Speaker 2>they gave him his transportation targets railroads and turntables and

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<v Speaker 2>marshaling yards and bridges and the like in France, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm simply going to have to go home. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower was not ready to commit his forces to the

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<v Speaker 2>attack until he was certain that he had utilized every

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<v Speaker 2>asset he had to the uttermost. If he couldn't use

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<v Speaker 2>the assets as he saw fit, he would resign his commission.

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<v Speaker 2>When he made the threat, he was holding the most

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<v Speaker 2>coveted command in the history of warfare. He got his way,

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<v Speaker 2>and the transportation plan was a big success. He later

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<v Speaker 2>used the same threat and a knockdown dispute with Montgomery

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<v Speaker 2>over strategy and command, and he again had his way.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an integral part of him, this ability to

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly when to use his personal asset, the power

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<v Speaker 2>of his name, to make the ultimate threat. It showed

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<v Speaker 2>a nice sense of balance about political factors and an

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<v Speaker 2>accurate measurement of his own strength in a struggle over policy.

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<v Speaker 2>He much preferred working with the team to having to

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<v Speaker 2>act on his own. A stress on teamwork began when

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<v Speaker 2>he was a child, showed again at West Point and

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<v Speaker 2>was reinforced by his experiences as a football coach on

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<v Speaker 2>various army bases in the nineteen twenties. By nineteen fifty two,

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<v Speaker 2>the year Eisenhower entered into politics at age sixty two,

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<v Speaker 2>his character is formed by heredity and experience, was set

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<v Speaker 2>and cement. It included, as I have said, the qualities

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<v Speaker 2>of love, honesty, faithfulness, responsibility, modesty, generosity, duty, and leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>along with the hatred of war. These were bedrock or

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<v Speaker 2>were they? This paragon of virtue I am describing had

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<v Speaker 2>lived in the shelter of the army nearly all of

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<v Speaker 2>his life, character testing opportunities or temptations were almost unknown

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<v Speaker 2>to him. It's easy to be virtuous when virtue is rewarded,

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<v Speaker 2>and this will be a hard sell of many veterans

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<v Speaker 2>in here, but it usually is in the army. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not so easy to be virtuous when virtue is ignored

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<v Speaker 2>and partisanship is rewarded, as in politics. He grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in the army, and he swore like a sergeant, although

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<v Speaker 2>the words he used were never a secrual or had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with anatomy. They were always christ and

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<v Speaker 2>damn and goddamn words like that. Once he was at

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<v Speaker 2>a luncheon with some cabinet members during the fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>reelection campaign, and someone said something about somebody proposing something,

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<v Speaker 2>and Eisenharers snored these damned amateurs. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only in all the world, there's only two places

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<v Speaker 2>where amateurs think that they're better than the professionals, military

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<v Speaker 2>strategy and prostitution. Now, this was an all male luncheon,

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<v Speaker 2>and having said that, he blushed and confessed a bit shamefacedly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only off color story I know where his

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<v Speaker 2>characters showed most decisively was on questions of war and

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<v Speaker 2>more specific a first strike against the Soviet Union or

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<v Speaker 2>in Asia. He was president during the worst decade of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cold War. He was the only president to have

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<v Speaker 2>a decisive lead over the Soviets and nuclear weapons, a

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<v Speaker 2>lead so decisive that he could have ordered a preventative

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<v Speaker 2>war which would have destroyed the Soviet Union as a

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<v Speaker 2>military power, and they would have been unable to retaliate.

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<v Speaker 2>Given the amounts of money the United States was spending

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<v Speaker 2>in the arms race and the fear it engendered, and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Soviets would soon be able to

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<v Speaker 2>retaliate and eventually might pull even in nuclear weaponry, the

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<v Speaker 2>temptation to use the bomb while we still had the

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<v Speaker 2>lead was tremendous at the time of the nbn FU

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty four, during the various crises over the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese offshore islands in the mid fifties, and regularly with

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<v Speaker 2>regard to the Soviet Union, some of Eisenhower's principal advisers

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<v Speaker 2>gave into that temptation. These included his joint chiefs of Staff,

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<v Speaker 2>his vice president, his Secretary of State, members of his

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<v Speaker 2>National Security Council, and many pundits told on May one,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four, that the National Security Council was preparing

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<v Speaker 2>a paper calling for the use of atomic bombs to

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<v Speaker 2>save the French at the NBN. Foo Eyes now responded,

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly do not think that the Adam bomb can

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<v Speaker 2>be used by the United States unilaterally. He then went

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<v Speaker 2>on to get to the heart of the matter. You

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<v Speaker 2>boys must be crazy. We can't use those awful things

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<v Speaker 2>against Asians. For the second time in less than ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>My God, And you're listening to Steven Ambrose recounting many

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<v Speaker 1>of the stories he told in his Definitive biography of

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight D. Eisenhower. And I love a few of the

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<v Speaker 1>things he said about Ike's leadership style, and this the

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<v Speaker 1>most important. Sharing the credit for success and taking the

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<v Speaker 1>blame for what went wrong was his leadership style. And

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<v Speaker 1>this quote perhaps best states his character. Always take your

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<v Speaker 1>job seriously, not yourself. When we come back, more of

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<v Speaker 1>this remarkable story with one of the great storytellers in

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<v Speaker 1>American history telling the story of one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>military leaders in American history. Ambrose on Eisenhower. Here on

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<v Speaker 1>our American stories, and we continue here with our American

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<v Speaker 1>stories and the story of Twight d. Eisenhower is told

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<v Speaker 1>by Stephen Ambrose, let's return to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>It was characteristic of him always to ask what happens next?

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<v Speaker 2>If we do suck and soul, what are the likely consequences?

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<v Speaker 2>Suppose we do pull it off, then what and what

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<v Speaker 2>did the other players do? It was an attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>look into the future, and it stood him in good

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<v Speaker 2>stead as president. After DNB and Foo fell, the Joint

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs recommended a preventative attack against the Soviet Union. Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>asked them to think about what they were proposing. I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to carry this question home with you. Gain

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<v Speaker 2>such a victory, and what are you going to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it? Here would be a great area from the

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<v Speaker 2>Elba River all the way to vladis Vostok, just torn

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<v Speaker 2>up and destroyed, without government, without its communications, just an

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<v Speaker 2>area of starvation disaster. I ask you, what would the

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<v Speaker 2>civilized world do about it? I repeat, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>victory accepting your imagination. Another quality was patience. Make no

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes in a hurry was a favorite axiom of his.

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<v Speaker 2>When advisors urged him to destroy the Soviet Union while

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<v Speaker 2>you could still get away with it, he told them

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<v Speaker 2>to be patient. That in the end, the Soviet system

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<v Speaker 2>would implode because it was rotten at its core. That

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<v Speaker 2>this would take a long time, maybe as long as

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years, but they would have to educate their own

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<v Speaker 2>people in order to stay up with modern technology, and

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<v Speaker 2>when they did, they would sow the seeds of their

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<v Speaker 2>own undoing. He was a good steward. His farewell adess.

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<v Speaker 2>He pointed out, we you and I our government must

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<v Speaker 2>avoid plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious

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<v Speaker 2>resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of

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<v Speaker 2>our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political

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<v Speaker 2>and spiritual heritage. And then he uttered, what all his

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<v Speaker 2>lines is my all time favorite? He said, we want

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<v Speaker 2>democracy survive for all ages to come. That faith in

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<v Speaker 2>democracy was total, even after five years of dealing with Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty seven, he told Swede, each congressman thinks

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<v Speaker 2>of himself as intensely patriotic, but it does not take

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<v Speaker 2>the average member long to conclude that his first duty

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<v Speaker 2>to his country is to get himself re elected. This

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<v Speaker 2>leads to a capacity for rationalization that is beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 2>It was characteristic of him to seek compromise extremes to

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<v Speaker 2>the right and to the left of any political dispute

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<v Speaker 2>are always wrong. He liked to say. The Democrats controld

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<v Speaker 2>Congress for six of his eight years in office. He

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<v Speaker 2>got on with them smoothly. A brief assessment of his

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<v Speaker 2>accomplishments as president reveals something more of the man and

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<v Speaker 2>his character. First and foremost, he presided over eight years

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<v Speaker 2>of prosperity, marred only by two minor recessions. By later standards,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a period of nearly full employment. The average

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<v Speaker 2>unemployment rate in the fifties was four percent and no inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>The average inflation rate in the nineteen fifties was one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half percent a year, about which he worried

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<v Speaker 2>offy there was a four percent rise in real wages

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<v Speaker 2>each year for blue collar workers. Indeed, by almost every

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<v Speaker 2>standard GNP personal income and savings, home buying, auto purchases,

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<v Speaker 2>capital investment, highway construction, and so forth, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>best decade of the century. Shirley Eisenhower's fiscal policies, his

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<v Speaker 2>refusal to cut taxes or increased defense spending, his insistence

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<v Speaker 2>on a balanced budget, played some role in creating this

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<v Speaker 2>happy situation. His special triumphs came in the field of

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<v Speaker 2>foreign affairs and were directed directly related to his character.

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<v Speaker 2>By making peace in Korea five months after taking office

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<v Speaker 2>and avoiding war thereafter, and by holding down the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of the arms race, he achieved greatness. No one knows

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<v Speaker 2>how much money he saved the United States. No one

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<v Speaker 2>knows how many lives he saved by ending the war

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<v Speaker 2>in Korea and refusing to enter any others, despite a

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<v Speaker 2>half dozen and more virtually unanimous recommendations to do so,

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<v Speaker 2>Dn Benfu, Kumoi Matsu, many others. But he made peace,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kept the peace. Whether any other man could

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<v Speaker 2>have led the country through that decade without going to

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<v Speaker 2>war cannot be known. What we do know is that

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenwer did it. Eisnower seldom boasted, but he did on

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<v Speaker 2>this one. The United States never lost a soldier or

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<v Speaker 2>a foot of ground in my administration. He said, we

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<v Speaker 2>kept the peace. People ask how it happened. By God,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't just happen. I'll tell you that his magnetic

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<v Speaker 2>appeal to millions of his fellow citizens seemed to come

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<v Speaker 2>about as a natural and effortless result of his sunny disposition.

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<v Speaker 2>But he worked at his apparent artlessness, that big grin

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<v Speaker 2>and bouncy step often masked depression, doubt, or utter weariness.

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<v Speaker 2>He believed it was the critical duty of a leader

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<v Speaker 2>to always exude optimism. He made it a habit to

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<v Speaker 2>save all of his doubts for his pillow. For forty years,

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<v Speaker 2>he changed smoked cigarettes four packs a day. At age

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, he quit cold turkey, and he never again

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<v Speaker 2>touched tobacco. Clearly he was a man in tremendous willpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Although at the Paris Summit, the abortive Paris Summit in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty, when Khrushoff was going on and on about

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Gary powers and YouTube and demanding an apology and

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<v Speaker 2>pounding the table and saw an eyeshower scribbled on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of his Mimo pad. God, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 2>a cigarette. He used that tremendous willpower to conquer his

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<v Speaker 2>own most negative characteristic, an awful temper. When he got mad,

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<v Speaker 2>it just everybody knew immediately. His face just lit up,

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<v Speaker 2>beat red, and and the tension in his body was

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<v Speaker 2>a palpable thing that could be felt all through the room.

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<v Speaker 2>His aides lived in terror of those moments of outbreak

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<v Speaker 2>of his temper. Now anger that has contrived, that is

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<v Speaker 2>put on for show and a purpose. An actor's anger

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<v Speaker 2>can be an effective tool leadership. It was one eyes

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<v Speaker 2>Now often used, but genuine anger, deep blind anger, is

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<v Speaker 2>the enemy of leadership. Eyes Noower often felt it with Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>with McCarthy, with others, but he never acted on it.

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<v Speaker 2>One way he controlled his anger was to do his

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<v Speaker 2>best to follow his own rule, never question another man's motives.

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<v Speaker 2>His wisdom, yes, but not his motives. He also tried

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<v Speaker 2>to always assume the best about others until shown otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>He could do so consistently, even in a world full

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<v Speaker 2>of high powered men whose motives were often self serving

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<v Speaker 2>or base. Because of this most outstanding personal characteristic of

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<v Speaker 2>his love for life and for people. No one ever

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<v Speaker 2>caught this better than Richard Nixon, who observed on the

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<v Speaker 2>day Eisenhower died in nineteen sixty nine that everybody loved

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<v Speaker 2>ike because I c lobbed everybody. Nixon went on to

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<v Speaker 2>confess that he could scarcely believe such a thing was possible,

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<v Speaker 2>because he said, in my experience, most politicians are men

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<v Speaker 2>with very strong hatreds. But Lord knows that Nixon was

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<v Speaker 2>a man full of such feelings and a man who

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<v Speaker 2>always questioned the other guy's motives. But as Verisenhower, the

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<v Speaker 2>only man he ever really hated was Adolf Hitler. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the general who hated war, but who hated the

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis more. He was old fashioned, a Victorian who came

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<v Speaker 2>to power in the mid twentieth century. His virtues were

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<v Speaker 2>those of the nineteenth century. Honesty, integrity, and religious devotion

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<v Speaker 2>and conviction were some of them. To my knowledge. He

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<v Speaker 2>never lied in his private life, not once. And his

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<v Speaker 2>public responsibilities he lied twice, once in nineteen forty four

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<v Speaker 2>to Hitler about where he was going to invade, and

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<v Speaker 2>once again on May Day, nineteen sixty to Khrushoff about

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<v Speaker 2>what Francis gary Powers was doing in that U two

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<v Speaker 2>over the Soviet Union. In my own life, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>faced with a moral question, or a dilemma, or a

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<v Speaker 2>personal problem of choice, I'm in the habit of asking

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<v Speaker 2>myself what would I do? Sad to relate, I often

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<v Speaker 2>come up short of his standards. My only consolation is

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<v Speaker 2>that so do most of the men I know for

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<v Speaker 2>whose lives I have studied.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to Steven Ambrose and what storytelling.

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<v Speaker 1>A special thanks to the estate, also to Greg Hangler

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<v Speaker 1>for pulling that all together. The story of Dwight D.

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower hold by Stephen Ambrose. Here on our American Stories