Speaker 1: To on the move, going deep speedlers Peace. From the
Speaker 1: Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 1: is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's my avands in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: the Finns were back on the field and I was
Speaker 1: back in the stands taking notes. We're breaking down another
Speaker 1: Dolphins practice. We'll hear from head coach Mike McDaniel, durham
Speaker 1: smythe as well. Another flagship edition of the podcast starts
Speaker 1: right now from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 1: Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: The Draft Time Podcast, Ye Daffy. We call it the
Speaker 1: flagship podcast here because breaking down practice is what we
Speaker 1: do best on this show. And again I will put
Speaker 1: it up there against anybody else that evaluates a football
Speaker 1: practice for your Miami Dolphins as the top place to
Speaker 1: go for your notes, and the aggregators of Dolphins podcast
Speaker 1: Land will prove that in their own right by showing
Speaker 1: you my tweets and my stuff that comes out as
Speaker 1: they report it as if they were actually there. But
Speaker 1: I digress. Another football practice broke out on this sunny
Speaker 1: and rainy Tuesday from Miami Gardens hot as hell, then a'
Speaker 1: monsoon which we needed badly, and then the field was
Speaker 1: dry like an hour after all of that. I've been
Speaker 1: here for almost five years now and the weather still
Speaker 1: fascinates me. So my apologies for starting off with small
Speaker 1: talk on you guys some weather we're having, huh, but
Speaker 1: your weather authority here at five o'clock starts off the
Speaker 1: show to get to our lead story. Our at least
Speaker 1: toy today was to a tongue of II LOOA. He
Speaker 1: was here ripping passes, kicking ass and taking names, chewing
Speaker 1: bubble gum all out of bubble gum, that whole thing.
Speaker 1: And look, he has been here, just not for the
Speaker 1: last week's media viewing session. And I think I mentioned
Speaker 1: this on the podcast last week sometimes or this one
Speaker 1: single time, because I don't think that Tua has missed
Speaker 1: a camp practice since I've been here, which spans his
Speaker 1: whole career OTAs or training camp. But when he's not
Speaker 1: out there, I probably get a little bit wider of
Speaker 1: a scope of practice. But then there's also how much
Speaker 1: smoother having a top ten quarterback in your practice in
Speaker 1: the NFL tends to make the practice look a little
Speaker 1: bit better. It makes the receivers jobs easier, It makes
Speaker 1: the run game work a little bit better. We know
Speaker 1: what his processing and trigger combination does for the offensive line.
Speaker 1: It was just seven on seven when he played. It
Speaker 1: was actually Mike White and Scolar Thompson splitting the team
Speaker 1: reps in full eleven v. Eleven. But seven on seven
Speaker 1: I saw three catch and runs on quick hitters where
Speaker 1: the wide receivers plucked the football off the stripe of
Speaker 1: their helmet in full stride and then outran the defense
Speaker 1: to the end zone. We saw all year last year
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill. We've seen Jalen Waddle working this year
Speaker 1: in hype videos online to catch the ball in that
Speaker 1: way opposed to going up high to make the catch
Speaker 1: with his body. And I saw on one instance Malik
Speaker 1: Washington not do it properly and not expect the football
Speaker 1: out of his break and he dropped the ball. And
Speaker 1: then I saw a few other guys do the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. Sorry, I gotta stop. I'm popping my wedding
Speaker 1: ring and that's probably making that sound. We'll stop doing that.
Speaker 1: I saw a few other guys do it and catch
Speaker 1: it and take off, and it does a coaching point.
Speaker 1: Catch the ball on the move, don't lose your cleats
Speaker 1: in the ground because you can continue to progress up
Speaker 1: feel with this, and that's how you erase angles and
Speaker 1: score a long touchdowns. I saw Eric Azukama do it.
Speaker 1: I saw River Craycraft do it. I saw Anthony Schwartz
Speaker 1: do it. Two of those guys are known for some speed,
Speaker 1: one of those guys not so much. But a good
Speaker 1: a good accurate throat can help a not so fast
Speaker 1: guy do that. And this is not just a drill
Speaker 1: that affords that because it didn't happen one thing in
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. It only happened when two was out there.
Speaker 1: And TUA is a point meant viewing and it's these
Speaker 1: little innocuous things and then I mean are seemingly innocuous.
Speaker 1: They're not innocuous, but maybe if you're not looking for
Speaker 1: these things, they are that I continue to point out
Speaker 1: when it comes to time in the system, to continuity,
Speaker 1: to polishing an already professional approach. And that was kind
Speaker 1: of the theme today, So I wanted to focus on
Speaker 1: something coach McDaniel said in his pre practice press or
Speaker 1: this is a follow up answer to an earlier question
Speaker 1: about where Tua can grow in his third year in
Speaker 1: year program and how that third year of continuity provides benefits.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start here, though, about the improvements
Speaker 1: of working with John Beck.
Speaker 3: Deliberate intentionality with anything you do renders like some unexpected
Speaker 3: consequences that are definitely desirable. I think he uh without
Speaker 3: thinking is you know, probably generated a little more force
Speaker 3: on the on some throes he's trying to drive.
Speaker 2: You know, I have.
Speaker 3: Uh, actually extensive experience with uh with the coach that
Speaker 3: he's working with, John Beck. I was a coach and
Speaker 3: too thy eleven for the the Washington team that that
Speaker 3: he quarterbacked, and have have been on a couple of.
Speaker 2: Teams where he's he's.
Speaker 3: Uh worked with some of the quarterbacks we've had already,
Speaker 3: So there's some familiarity with that, which is awesome because well,
Speaker 3: Johnny knows what we're trying to do in the in
Speaker 3: the in the direction with or.
Speaker 2: How we asked the quarterback to play.
Speaker 3: So I think I think just that connectivity to your
Speaker 3: your game and finding or trying to unearth every single
Speaker 3: inch and iota of of professional development that in itself.
Speaker 2: You're headed in the right direction.
Speaker 3: So I think there's there's some things that I'll probably
Speaker 3: see every day, and when you when you talk to him,
Speaker 3: I think there's uh sometimes that he's effortlessly doing some
Speaker 3: of the things he's used to doing, just not really
Speaker 3: having to think as much because he's been so deep
Speaker 3: diving into his trade.
Speaker 1: I've generally steered my eyes elsewhere from the quarterbacks during
Speaker 1: individual driels the last few years. In twenty twenty, it
Speaker 1: was all I could watch, understandably so right trying to
Speaker 1: measure Tua and Fitzpatrick versus Josh Rosen who even twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen couldn't hit Joe Chamino standing still by the sidelines
Speaker 1: in individual driels. But I digress. But today I wanted
Speaker 1: to get a look since this was the first live
Speaker 1: look we've seen at Tua, or at least that I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be at, of all the off season work.
Speaker 1: And I think that in those videos that have been
Speaker 1: posted with him working with John Beck or with Waddle
Speaker 1: and Reeke down here with Nick Hicks on their own,
Speaker 1: I see a little more compact, mechanical approach. He's a
Speaker 1: little tighter in everything he does and an even shorter
Speaker 1: wind up that tightened up everything else as a result.
Speaker 1: And I mean that is throwing mechanics. One oh one,
Speaker 1: it's a football, it's a baseball, it's otherwise. I've told
Speaker 1: the story about my own growing journey on here and
Speaker 1: tightening up my windmill release I used to have, and
Speaker 1: how it made me go from playing second base to
Speaker 1: shortstop and third base because my arm strength improved enough
Speaker 1: to be able to make the throw across the diamond.
Speaker 1: The tighter you can be, the more velocity you can
Speaker 1: generate on a ball, football or baseball or whatever you throw.
Speaker 1: Think about it like a rubber band, An old, oft
Speaker 1: used rubber band that hangs like a sleeve of wizard
Speaker 1: will not snap as hard when you slingshot it against
Speaker 1: your buddy's arm. But a fresh, crisp one that we
Speaker 1: all look for in life that can leave a mark.
Speaker 1: If you slingshot it onto your friend's back arm whatever,
Speaker 1: it can leave a bruise there, right. So I noticed
Speaker 1: that in individual drills. Then I watched it in routes
Speaker 1: on air, and then again during the team periods or
Speaker 1: seven v seven, and it was more of the same
Speaker 1: in terms of timing and accuracy. Like I said, he
Speaker 1: was dialing up dudes right out of the break and
Speaker 1: into the run after the catch. One percent better is
Speaker 1: how the elites focus on their improvements because they're already
Speaker 1: so good, right, They're not going to make major strides.
Speaker 1: They're not going to turn from a night ninety five
Speaker 1: golfer into a eighty and below golfer like Travis Wingfield
Speaker 1: did in two years of really grinding on his swing.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen at that rate when you're already
Speaker 1: that good. Now I can break eighty now, But am
Speaker 1: I going to break seventeen times soon? Probably not. It's
Speaker 1: a much lower progression there, But one percent better when
Speaker 1: you are the elite of your profession, that one percent
Speaker 1: can make all the difference. And today I saw a
Speaker 1: quarterback that looked one percent better than in January when
Speaker 1: we last saw him. Let's go ahead and hear from
Speaker 1: his head coach on the growth and what year three
Speaker 1: can do for this talented quarterback within this system.
Speaker 3: That's been a cool process because you have two years
Speaker 3: under your belt together where you you know, all you've
Speaker 3: seen is his game progress.
Speaker 2: And I think year three we really.
Speaker 3: Got to, you know, take a step back and assess
Speaker 3: not just the things that he liked or the things
Speaker 3: that he looked comfortable with, but what are some things
Speaker 3: maybe he hasn't looked comfortable with in the past that
Speaker 3: we can get him some.
Speaker 2: Comfort levels with it.
Speaker 3: Kind of we've kind of re challenged ourselves and how
Speaker 3: we verbalize stuff. And you know, the bottom line is
Speaker 3: our connectivity with how we see things and what we're
Speaker 3: trying to do with every different assignment, that can always
Speaker 3: get cleaner.
Speaker 2: And I think it really has.
Speaker 3: I think there's been some cool things. He will be
Speaker 3: here today and you know, in the in the short
Speaker 3: amount of time, he had two practices last week and
Speaker 3: we we saw some growth and development within what we're
Speaker 3: what we're specifically asking him to do. So it's been
Speaker 3: very exciting because you know, you're at this point we're like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, let's really push ourselves to challenge this guy,
Speaker 3: because all he ends up doing is rising to the
Speaker 3: challenge within what we ask him to do. So I
Speaker 3: think to expect, you know, the same if not more
Speaker 3: growth within your game from each year, I don't think is.
Speaker 2: Crazy. I think for us to.
Speaker 3: Expect just as much, if not more, from year two
Speaker 3: to year three is very safe for our expectations, and
Speaker 3: I know he feels the same way too. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of places where we can get our game better.
Speaker 3: So excited about this opportunity on May twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: And what do I always say about a coach or
Speaker 1: a player providing feedback on some of your thoughts or
Speaker 1: theories or hypothesises that you perceive to be factual. It's
Speaker 1: for the ego satisfaction aspect of the job, right, Nothing
Speaker 1: better than that. Ever. I just think it's common sense, though,
Speaker 1: to be totally honest. Intimate relationship, friendship, coworker. Any relationship
Speaker 1: improves over time, especially in the communication aspect. I played
Speaker 1: golf with a couple of guys here that are two
Speaker 1: of my best friends in the whole world. When I
Speaker 1: first met them, you had to be reserved and not
Speaker 1: be your full authentic self, right, But then now we
Speaker 1: play golf and they get the full authentic Travis Wingfield experience,
Speaker 1: And so I thought that was really really going to
Speaker 1: help a team that is trying like hell to get
Speaker 1: over this proverbial hump, to get through the wild card
Speaker 1: round and play their best football late in the year
Speaker 1: and be a team that's playing on divisional weekend. You're
Speaker 1: saying the Dolphins have a chance to go win a
Speaker 1: game and make an appearance in the conference championship game
Speaker 1: because through two years we've been eight and three and
Speaker 1: nine and three. Right, great starts to seasons and full transparency.
Speaker 1: Look at the schedule, it's probably gonna line up like
Speaker 1: that again. You're probably gonna be on Thanksgiving DA against
Speaker 1: the Packers and you're probably gonna be let see one, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 1: That means we've played eleven games. You're probably gonna be
Speaker 1: like nine to two going into the pack of the game,
Speaker 1: like most likely right, like in that range eight and three. Yet,
Speaker 1: worse to me, one of those seasons saw our quarterback
Speaker 1: get knocked out and finished nine to eight. The other
Speaker 1: one and we lost in the playoffs. So then last
Speaker 1: year we had the quarterback and not much else because
Speaker 1: everybody else was hurt, and then the production slowed down
Speaker 1: and then we had a tough showing in the playoffs
Speaker 1: in miserable temperature. So what is next? How do we
Speaker 1: replicate that early season's success and then how do we
Speaker 1: get to the next stage? I asked Raheem, most dirt
Speaker 1: and Durham smythe about this. Durham caught a touchdown today
Speaker 1: from Tua, by the way, a nice shot over the
Speaker 1: middle as Durham caught it and took it to the
Speaker 1: ground right over the goal line for six. And on
Speaker 1: the play I noticed Tua, which this is where I
Speaker 1: think you guys are going to be so impressed by
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, let's pull the curtain back here a
Speaker 1: little bit. We see so many comments about this quarterback
Speaker 1: can't read a defense, which I always find those comments
Speaker 1: interesting because do you know how to read a defense?
Speaker 1: Then how do you know that, right? Because if you
Speaker 1: can't see it, you can't do it. If you don't
Speaker 1: know how to teach it, you can't teach it, or
Speaker 1: whatever the saying is. And I just don't think many
Speaker 1: folks know what they're talking about when they say that.
Speaker 1: Some of you do, but I think a lot of
Speaker 1: folks on Twitter who like to say things just to
Speaker 1: say them, say that because it sounds good, right, But
Speaker 1: with Tua, and he's been since Alabama, But I watched
Speaker 1: that guy today go front side one two high low, read,
Speaker 1: get to the backside, find your third guy in the progression,
Speaker 1: and that was Durham Smith on this play and when
Speaker 1: you do that, he held the safety with the hips
Speaker 1: and the stripe of the helmet all aligned towards one
Speaker 1: side of the field, that safety has to respect the boundary.
Speaker 1: Whip that thing back to the field and you've created
Speaker 1: the window and then you've ripped the window. That is
Speaker 1: what elite quarterbacks do, so to a very high level
Speaker 1: throw on that. Speaking of that, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: hear from Durham Smith on the year three growth of
Speaker 1: his quarterback and playing in this offense and what that
Speaker 1: can do for the entire group on offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think for me it's just familiarity
Speaker 4: with the scheme. But what's fun about this offense is
Speaker 4: it changes so much and kind of evolving manner every year,
Speaker 4: so that kind of keeps it fresh. Obviously, I know
Speaker 4: everything that we're doing right now in terms of terminology
Speaker 4: and movements and things, but there's always going to be
Speaker 4: new wrinkles thrown in which kind of keeps it fresh
Speaker 4: for us that have been here for a couple of
Speaker 4: years now, and I'm just kind of excited to see
Speaker 4: where where the evolution takes us next.
Speaker 1: And then Raheem Moster was up next, and we'll go
Speaker 1: back to Durham smythe because he's always so good in
Speaker 1: the media. But I asked Durham a similar question about
Speaker 1: the second time he's been with McDaniel for a third
Speaker 1: year and the benefit of a third season in the
Speaker 1: same program. And if you guys recall the third year
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for Shanahan and McDaniel produced a ten
Speaker 1: point lead in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't finish the job, but if the Dolphins were
Speaker 1: in that position, sign me up today. I'll take the
Speaker 1: heartbreak that comes from a Patrick Mahomes seventeen point fourth
Speaker 1: quarter ons law, even though it's not possible for us
Speaker 1: in the AFC, I will take a loss in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl any day of the week right now, to
Speaker 1: be perfectly frank with you guys, And Raheem gave me
Speaker 1: an answer. There's a lot more than just that. And gosh,
Speaker 1: I am so glad we have this guy both as
Speaker 1: a player and a presence, because well, this is what
Speaker 1: it sounds like to be a leader.
Speaker 5: You know, when you get you know, guys coming in,
Speaker 5: whether you're you're new or a vent like myself in
Speaker 5: a program whereas it pretty much matters in the third year.
Speaker 5: I mean, for me, I feel like this is just
Speaker 5: one of those make or break years, you know. Me personally,
Speaker 5: I feel like I want to win a championship. I
Speaker 5: want to I want to.
Speaker 2: Go after one, and I want to, you.
Speaker 5: Know, get past the first round because these past two
Speaker 5: years have been bs, you know, in my in my
Speaker 5: own view. But you know, it's all about breaking that
Speaker 5: that cycle and going deep into the playoffs and entering
Speaker 5: the championship round and then onto the big dance.
Speaker 2: So anything and everything that that that'll help.
Speaker 5: Whether it means come out here and do what you
Speaker 5: have to do and senate based or not, it all
Speaker 5: depends on what's your core values.
Speaker 2: And for me, my core.
Speaker 5: Values is being with my teammates and then also getting
Speaker 5: better for myself and winning a championship.
Speaker 2: That's all all I care about right now.
Speaker 1: Some more notes here from the notebook on to a
Speaker 1: tongue of Bailoa. I had a throw to Anthony Schwartz
Speaker 1: on a drag route where Ethan Bonner is all over
Speaker 1: this route on top of the receiver, but TWOA throws
Speaker 1: a handoff that allows him to catch it away from
Speaker 1: the cornerback can't defend a perfect pass right and it
Speaker 1: goes in for six. And just all practice, I kept
Speaker 1: writing down, it's nice to have a real quarterback out
Speaker 1: or who does this at a high level. Next play,
Speaker 1: Tua scrambles and extends and throws a ball against a
Speaker 1: plaster Taj Washington, who Nick Needham had basically taken him
Speaker 1: out of the play. But it's not open and it's
Speaker 1: the play is probably shut down, but in practice you
Speaker 1: try to see what you can get away with here.
Speaker 1: So Tua throws it to a spot where Taj can
Speaker 1: kind of at the last minute create some separation because
Speaker 1: Nick's back is to the quarterback at this point and
Speaker 1: the spot that Tua puts it and allowed him to
Speaker 1: get off of the separate or get off the coverage
Speaker 1: and have a play on the ball. He didn't squeeze
Speaker 1: the ball, he dropped it, but it was right there.
Speaker 1: We'll hear again from ToJ Washington in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Tua did have one miss in the day. He threw
Speaker 1: a backpile on the little wheel route to Jody Forts
Speaker 1: and that he just clubbed up one on like probably
Speaker 1: had some win in the back there. I make way
Speaker 1: too many golf references on the podcast now, but it
Speaker 1: was basically just a little bit too strong and too high.
Speaker 1: Overthrew it, and he knew it right away because he
Speaker 1: dropped to a knee like a I can't believe I
Speaker 1: missed that throw. Speaking of that to be a fly
Speaker 1: on the wall man. After one of those sessions where
Speaker 1: Tua went TD TD TD incomplete TD short gain TD
Speaker 1: again in mid red zone work from the ten yard line,
Speaker 1: the linebackers came over to him and I saw Tua
Speaker 1: do a Jordan shrug, and based on how he was
Speaker 1: moving guys and squeezing windows and basically doing whatever he
Speaker 1: wanted in the drill, my guess is that they were like, bro,
Speaker 1: how the hell did you do that? Like what we
Speaker 1: had that covered perfectly? And he hits the old dice
Speaker 1: roll shrug right the security guard. It's fun to see
Speaker 1: and he and Jordan Brooks, who I think I've mentioned
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Jordan Brooks has kind of kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of Jialen Ramsey, like there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of like pleasantries there. It's just like he's here for
Speaker 1: one thing and one thing only. But I saw Jordan
Speaker 1: Brooks laughing with Tua after one of these reps. And
Speaker 1: it's always great to see your leader, your quarterback, the
Speaker 1: face of your franchise get friendly with a new guy
Speaker 1: who buys in right away that quickly. I just it
Speaker 1: seems obvious. But I've seen enough takes on Twitter and
Speaker 1: why why do you care?
Speaker 2: Drivers?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've seen enough takes of like,
Speaker 1: you know what, the right guy doesn't have the right leadership,
Speaker 1: Guys don't respect him. Like if you think that, you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. And Jordan Brooks the
Speaker 1: situation like, to me, that validates that. Oh. I also
Speaker 1: forgot one throw on air where Tua threw this super
Speaker 1: anticipatory shot to Crai Craft in the corner of the
Speaker 1: end zone on air, like a speed out route that
Speaker 1: was to the field, so to the wide side of
Speaker 1: the field, and it looks so beautiful, and they came
Speaker 1: right back to it in seven v seven to the
Speaker 1: corner and he was the corner was all over it.
Speaker 1: But Tua puts it high and away and Craikraft makes
Speaker 1: this beautiful catch where only he could he could make
Speaker 1: the play, and he did just that. Tua also dropped
Speaker 1: a seed to Eric Azukama for a long touchdown. And
Speaker 1: I love this play because he was in the three position,
Speaker 1: which means the closest to the quarterback from a bunch shrips.
Speaker 1: You guys know what that means, right, It's from a
Speaker 1: trip's formation and tied to the formation, and he just
Speaker 1: runs the skinny post that got him a favorable matchup,
Speaker 1: and he ran by everybody, and Tua saw it early
Speaker 1: and let this thing fly early. And when the Eric
Speaker 1: Azukama and the football met at the goal line at
Speaker 1: the exact same time, it looked like the TP roll
Speaker 1: toss on Little Giants. It landed right there, soft as
Speaker 1: it can be. You can't drop that football. Then he
Speaker 1: finishes the day with one you've seen on our social
Speaker 1: channels two with Ta Taj Washington. A beautiful route, a
Speaker 1: little fake double move where he gets on top of
Speaker 1: the dB, stacks him and then angles it back inside
Speaker 1: to create this outside lane to throw to. And that's
Speaker 1: what great deep receivers do. You give your quarterback room
Speaker 1: to throw to the outside where you can throw you
Speaker 1: away from the coverage. And in fact, if you go
Speaker 1: back to the Patriots touchdown last year, Tua did exactly
Speaker 1: that on that throw the Tyree kill the long touchdown
Speaker 1: in the first or second quarter of that game. Go
Speaker 1: watch it. It was the exact same thing. Taj stacks,
Speaker 1: the dB tracks it reels it in for six. What
Speaker 1: a great day for a quarterback. I want to go
Speaker 1: ahead and end the first segment with this. I thought
Speaker 1: this was a great Q and a session with Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel regarding to a gaining some weight last year, as
Speaker 1: you all know, and now dropping it this year. What's
Speaker 1: the thinking there? There was a shift in mindset, right, Well,
Speaker 1: here's what coach had to say about Tua's weight training
Speaker 1: and what it was all for last year and what
Speaker 1: it's all for this year.
Speaker 3: That's a very understandable misconception. It was not We were
Speaker 3: not on a offseason weight program last year. Was strength
Speaker 3: and so him getting stronger and then the UNDI intended
Speaker 3: consequences for him personally and how he saw his game.
Speaker 3: His strength increased, but he you know, he didn't really
Speaker 3: He felt like he could have the same amount of
Speaker 3: strength and kind of reshape his body and be a
Speaker 3: little lighter on his feet.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of the natural evolution of you.
Speaker 3: You get stronger, and then you you'd you'd really pay
Speaker 3: attention to your diet and and uh, you know the
Speaker 3: times that you're eating and when your chloric in take
Speaker 3: is those types of things, so he can maintain that strength,
Speaker 3: those strength gains while also uh, you know, being a
Speaker 3: little a little more limber within the pocket. I think
Speaker 3: is what drove him to kind of attack that which
Speaker 3: he's done a great job of.
Speaker 1: Really fun opening segment that let's go ahead and take
Speaker 1: our first break, comeback on the other side and talk
Speaker 1: about the rest of practice and play some more sound
Speaker 1: by Strive Time podcast your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 1: you by Autotation. Javon Holland rocked the Orange Jersey on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: May twenty eighth, the second media availability session of OTAs,
Speaker 1: and I thought Taj Washington going back to him, ran
Speaker 1: a great route on him for one of the three
Speaker 1: scores on the day where he gave him a little
Speaker 1: bit of cheese to the outside and kind of crossed
Speaker 1: face and to a found him for six. It kind
Speaker 1: of reminded me of a Wes Welker route, which if
Speaker 1: you can run those and you have his vertical speed.
Speaker 1: I don't know guys, I don't know these draft picks, man,
Speaker 1: they look pretty freaking good. But Javon would get redemption
Speaker 1: later on a great rep on the other rookie Washington
Speaker 1: where he matches Maleiak's pattern, squats and drives downhill and
Speaker 1: met the rookie at the catchpoint for a short pickup.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot more Javon in
Speaker 1: coverage making plays in the football this year. He just
Speaker 1: looks more in tune with that type of def or
Speaker 1: with that type of role in the defense. And this
Speaker 1: is without even Jaalen Ramsey or Kendall Fuller out there.
Speaker 1: So we'll see when they get a full compliment. But
Speaker 1: it was good to see him out there barking out signals,
Speaker 1: rotating from his pre snap position and just kind of
Speaker 1: being the jack of all trade in his orange number
Speaker 1: eight jersey, and he was really helping head off some
Speaker 1: intermediate routes throughout the course of the day. I think
Speaker 1: my player of the day besides Tua, was Channing Tindall
Speaker 1: and I had four splash bloys for forty one in
Speaker 1: a pretty short period of time. Some of the notes
Speaker 1: on him here, he met the running back, he beat
Speaker 1: him to the track on outside zone and wax the
Speaker 1: back and you could hear it from the stands. It
Speaker 1: was like, hey, don't make contact, but if we're going
Speaker 1: to try to win a spot, we're going to have
Speaker 1: to try to win the spot with whatever way we can,
Speaker 1: and he did that. He also drove on a throw
Speaker 1: to the outside on Taj Washington that he was all
Speaker 1: over and he got a lot of love from his
Speaker 1: teammates because it kind of looked like that was the
Speaker 1: opening for the quarterback. But Tindall's speed and instincts to
Speaker 1: get out there was what prevented the play from again touchdown.
Speaker 1: And he forces an incoplete on that play. On the
Speaker 1: very next rep, he re routes and then squats on
Speaker 1: a flat route to the running back and Tua has
Speaker 1: to just ground this thing. Check that it was a
Speaker 1: Texas route. I apologize, a little Texas route over the
Speaker 1: middle where the running back angles outside and cuts back
Speaker 1: across the face, and he just took it away and
Speaker 1: the sideline erupted again. It was good coverage across the board.
Speaker 1: But to show the ability to play, I thought those
Speaker 1: two reps playing one on the perimeter one on the interior,
Speaker 1: we have to kind of process and be physical versus
Speaker 1: the speed you have on the outside. It's a great
Speaker 1: sign for changing Tendall, who has not made a lot
Speaker 1: of progress in the first two years in terms of
Speaker 1: on field production. Speaking of number forties, number forty himself,
Speaker 1: Nick neat Hum, I thought he was right there with
Speaker 1: Tindall for the Orange Jurdy consideration. I mentioned the player
Speaker 1: earlier where he locked up a route from Taj where
Speaker 1: the plays kind of over and he just kind of
Speaker 1: forces him into the end line. He also flew into
Speaker 1: the snap when a nice timed up runner in the
Speaker 1: backfield to meet Jeff Wilson Frey would be collision three
Speaker 1: or four yards behind the line of scrimmage. Of course
Speaker 1: we tag off in practice. Staying on defense, I thought
Speaker 1: Moe Kamara showed a good combination of punch, hands and
Speaker 1: feet and how they all worked together. They were working
Speaker 1: on long arms to lock out but keep their chest cleaning.
Speaker 1: He looked very effective in doing this. I also thought
Speaker 1: his hands just looked quick and powerful during indies and
Speaker 1: that translated the team drills with some good get off
Speaker 1: and swipe combinations. Cam Smith spoke to the media and
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of intrigued by his entire aura.
Speaker 1: He seems to get it to me. I know that's
Speaker 1: kind of like an intangible factor. But he was really
Speaker 1: good with the media. I thought that he showed the
Speaker 1: good change of direction and just how smooth he moved. Man,
Speaker 1: he's so quick. There's a reason he was considered a
Speaker 1: potential first round pick by some. Speaking of quick movers,
Speaker 1: Saran Neil moves really well. His speed just shows up
Speaker 1: in the in the gunner role on the perimeter at cornerback.
Speaker 1: He I think he might be a hit just in
Speaker 1: terms of producing in any way he possibly can. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be at cornerback because we're super deep there,
Speaker 1: but gosh, that he is quick, man. I think that's
Speaker 1: going to really play out in special teams. Leonard Pain
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think could be a dude
Speaker 1: the way he moves under the canopy drill where you're
Speaker 1: basically forced to keep a certain pad level and move
Speaker 1: with your knees bent. Do you guys know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? They roll out this like canopy thing where
Speaker 1: you basically do your sideline sideline to your side, shuffling
Speaker 1: and pursued downhill to state a certain pad level, and
Speaker 1: he plays under that thing so well that I think
Speaker 1: shows a combination of where he wins on tape with
Speaker 1: the ability to both be low and you know, be
Speaker 1: a tough target for offensive line and to hit. Would
Speaker 1: also be explosive and quick because he got under the
Speaker 1: pads of the offensive lineman a couple of times in
Speaker 1: team drills, including some work against Liam Eikenberg that kind
Speaker 1: of pushed him on his back foot. If it wasn't
Speaker 1: tendall or need him, then it was Chop Robinson, which
Speaker 1: I know you guys want to hear that because the
Speaker 1: first two guys, you know, a nice depth defensive back,
Speaker 1: a linebacker who hasn't played it all for two years,
Speaker 1: and then your first round pick this year, who do
Speaker 1: you want to hear about. I had him wrecking three
Speaker 1: plays solely from just his get off. He is so
Speaker 1: freaking quick off the football. He got off one time
Speaker 1: and Austin Jackson got him down, but I think he
Speaker 1: grabbed the face mask and pulled him down that way.
Speaker 1: But he and Austin were going back and forth all day.
Speaker 1: There was one where he chopped, dipped the corner and
Speaker 1: got around him on the outside and Austin walled him
Speaker 1: off when he tried to shoot inside on one of
Speaker 1: them and shut that play down. So it was like
Speaker 1: a good battle for both of those guys in a
Speaker 1: good test for both of them. Then they swapped the
Speaker 1: offensive line and brought in another right tackle who I
Speaker 1: don't remember who it was, but chopped he took it
Speaker 1: to him in He kept burning that edge and rooted
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. He swatted one ball in the passing
Speaker 1: game and tagged off the back on another, and I
Speaker 1: gave him a sack on another play. So three impact
Speaker 1: plays there in a short team period for Chop Robinson.
Speaker 1: I had Patrick McMorris making two plays as well. He
Speaker 1: got to the flat after a quick checkdown to the
Speaker 1: back and forced the running back out of bounds on
Speaker 1: a short throw and got some love from his teammates
Speaker 1: for doing that. He also was all over Julian Hill
Speaker 1: on an incomplete pass from Mike White when he bootlegged
Speaker 1: out and was the only possible option. He tried to
Speaker 1: force it in there, which I think is a practice
Speaker 1: throw you wouldn't make in a game, but mc morris
Speaker 1: was all over and forced the incompletion. Some more quick
Speaker 1: rapid fire I had Duke Riley making the first run
Speaker 1: stuff of practice and coming off the pile fired up.
Speaker 1: And he also showed the team his music video I
Speaker 1: understood today, which so he was in a great mood
Speaker 1: all day. Not a good development here from last week
Speaker 1: I talked about Jack Driscoile having some good reps. I
Speaker 1: didn't think today was the same for him. He was
Speaker 1: over a skis, fell forward a few times and Isaiah
Speaker 1: Mack got him really off balance on one particular rep.
Speaker 1: I had Neville Gallimore taking Andrew Mayer on a run
Speaker 1: back to the backfield with a really good rep. Galam
Speaker 1: Morris popped a few times in these practices. Some of
Speaker 1: these rookie offensive line are getting batis him by fire.
Speaker 1: Here Kamara had a nice upfield move that overset Bayron
Speaker 1: Mactos the tackle and then cross overstep for a hit
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. That was impressive. Skyler had a really
Speaker 1: nice throw to Tanner Connor for a touchdown. I was
Speaker 1: watching the rush but so I didn't really see it,
Speaker 1: but I saw him just kind of rip this throw
Speaker 1: and Tanner Connor made a catch and kept on moving
Speaker 1: the same way you talk about the receivers, we'll see
Speaker 1: curious see what Tanner Connor can provide this camp in preseason.
Speaker 1: And then I also put this note in here that
Speaker 1: I never saw Zach Steeler get moved the way he
Speaker 1: did on an Austin Jackson rep where he moved him
Speaker 1: six yards off the football, carried him from the lion
Speaker 1: of scrimmage all the way into the end zone. That
Speaker 1: was impressive to watch. And then I also just put
Speaker 1: a couple of notes in here. Patrick Paul holding the
Speaker 1: individual work bags. It seems like it's not fair to
Speaker 1: go up against that guy, like he hulks over these
Speaker 1: smaller players that are his same position players and they
Speaker 1: don't really move him much. So I just thought that
Speaker 1: was kind of funny worth noting. And he had some
Speaker 1: good work today but also some kind of inconsistent reps.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it plays out next week
Speaker 1: and just how he's grown over the last couple of months.
Speaker 1: But something to keep an eye on there. Let's see,
Speaker 1: there was a I think I mentioned it earlier, but
Speaker 1: I'll say it again the Milake Washington play where he
Speaker 1: got into a window and two of like it's there's
Speaker 1: such an emphasis on come out of your break ready
Speaker 1: for the football because Tua throws. He's plays that way.
Speaker 1: I thought Malik came out of the break a little
Speaker 1: bit slow and didn't wasn't expecting the football, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good coaching point for him to learn from.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to watch him catch those slant routes as
Speaker 1: to go forward Dix. I think he'll learn from that
Speaker 1: moment where he wasn't ready on that one. My last
Speaker 1: note is on Eric Azukama. My gosh, I'm so intrigued
Speaker 1: by this freaking player man, just in the way he moves,
Speaker 1: in the strength he displays. He kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of like Brent Grimes in like the catlike movement, Like
Speaker 1: he kind of bounces around. Like there was a play
Speaker 1: where he dove for a ball on an off script
Speaker 1: play or to a rolled right and found him outside
Speaker 1: and he probably should have caught it, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't hang on and like he was like whipping
Speaker 1: his legs around. And I'm just like, this guy has
Speaker 1: endless energy like he was. You know, when you put
Speaker 1: your this is gonna make some of you guys laugh.
Speaker 1: You know, when you put the cups of your hand
Speaker 1: on the bend to the back of your knee and
Speaker 1: then you like whip your legs up and down so
Speaker 1: it makes a noise like he was kind of doing that.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense, He's just kind of wiredy. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense? I don't know. But he bounces around.
Speaker 1: He's so damn physical. And he had this one rep
Speaker 1: as the motion man that are our famous cheap motion
Speaker 1: where he gets a fantastic release, rips off the route
Speaker 1: at the top and two was late to see it
Speaker 1: to work the backside, but his route was so good
Speaker 1: that he stayed open for a maximum amount of time
Speaker 1: and the ball hit him right and stride. I'm just
Speaker 1: so intrigued by this particular this route and his entire
Speaker 1: day that he had because he was making plays all
Speaker 1: up and down the field. Nin I think, man, he
Speaker 1: will talk about it on the podcast tomorrow spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: but he might be my twenty twenty four Austin Jackson,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about that,
Speaker 1: not with Erica Zukam, but someone who would know. We'll
Speaker 1: check in next with more drham Smith soundbites here and
Speaker 1: also finished with coach McDaniel talking about sophomores and the
Speaker 1: sophomore slump that's all next Draft Time podcast your host
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoation. So we heard
Speaker 1: Durham Smith talking about yet year three and how beneficial
Speaker 1: that is. I wanted to follow up with him since
Speaker 1: this is his and many of the guy first time
Speaker 1: being in the same system for three consecutive years, and
Speaker 1: how much you rely on past film versus what you're
Speaker 1: doing today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you definitely look and now that's why I
Speaker 4: try to call it more of an evolution than just
Speaker 4: a change, because the basics are going to be the
Speaker 4: basics in this scheme, in this offense. There's just little
Speaker 4: nuances here and there that make it, you know, look
Speaker 4: different to the defense or out of movement here, so
Speaker 4: it makes it look a little bit more complicated than
Speaker 4: it is. So you're always looking back at those basics
Speaker 4: and the actual structure of the plays, but then ready
Speaker 4: for the nuances that you know we'll be coming.
Speaker 1: There's two more soundbites here, just because he was still good.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to Durham Smyth on how you
Speaker 1: review last season and where you guys came up short.
Speaker 1: Do you work on your deficiencies? Do you really hone
Speaker 1: on what you do well? Here's Durham Smyth on how
Speaker 1: you balance what you work on in the off season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think there's a little bit of
Speaker 4: both to it, especially this time of year. Everyone has
Speaker 4: a different approach. I think what we've done a lot,
Speaker 4: or what I've done this offseason is trying to, you know,
Speaker 4: focus on deficiencies a little bit and then focus on those,
Speaker 4: but you know, you can't completely neglect other parts of
Speaker 4: the game because then those become deficiencies. So it's a
Speaker 4: little bit of both. Obviously you're more focused on the
Speaker 4: things that you wanted to improve on, but it's really everything.
Speaker 1: Final one here for Durham Smyth, I thought this was
Speaker 1: a good question by Omar Kelly asked him about how
Speaker 1: he calls him the janitor because he cleans up so much,
Speaker 1: and Durham just gave us really good insight here in
Speaker 1: terms of what that means exactly and how this system
Speaker 1: empowers you to help out your teammates. Here's Durham Smith.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this offense, especially in the run game
Speaker 4: at the point of attack, puts the tight ends and
Speaker 4: the fullbacks in positions to kind of clean up for
Speaker 4: each other and then clean up for you know, tackles
Speaker 4: and stuff that are also at the point of attack.
Speaker 4: So I think, as me and Alec and you know
Speaker 4: some some other guys that have been here a good
Speaker 4: amount of time now have become more familiar with the offense,
Speaker 4: we kind of play just off each other. You know,
Speaker 4: the scheme says to do this, we're responsible for these people.
Speaker 4: But you know, if Alec picked somebody else up, I'll
Speaker 4: take his man and goes back and forth, and the
Speaker 4: same way for our tackles. Now that I've been here
Speaker 4: for a couple.
Speaker 1: Years, I want to finish up here with two more
Speaker 1: soundbites from head coach Mike McDaniel, who was asked about
Speaker 1: Devon ah Chan's second season and how he can build
Speaker 1: on the rookie campaign. And I think this should excite
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys. Here's Coach McDaniel on a
Speaker 1: Chan and the expectations for your number two.
Speaker 3: Important offseason for him, because you know, the you're just
Speaker 3: really hanging on by your cotails as a rookie in
Speaker 3: this league in general, the way things are kind of
Speaker 3: structured is, you know, there's so much time devoted to
Speaker 3: working out and getting your testing numbers right and then
Speaker 3: the second that you in your training for kind of
Speaker 3: these these timed measurables, then you immediately transition.
Speaker 2: Once you're drafted into kind of.
Speaker 3: Practicing, you get a little breath of a break and
Speaker 3: then you're still on your rookie season year two, you
Speaker 3: kind of let let everything settle, understand much more of
Speaker 3: the wise of everything that you do. And for him,
Speaker 3: you know, the the more he can understand within the offense,
Speaker 3: the more ways he can get the ball.
Speaker 2: He had outstanding ball production, some.
Speaker 3: Of which I know he feels specifically that there's more
Speaker 3: out there from the opportunities he had last year. And
Speaker 3: then being able to find different ways to get people
Speaker 3: of the ball, whether that's different types of pass routes,
Speaker 3: whether that's different types of run schemes, that you can
Speaker 3: get comfortable with all of those.
Speaker 2: Things, more ways.
Speaker 3: To be at the point of attack and to play
Speaker 3: within this offense. That's what this off season really provides
Speaker 3: for him. So seeing some strength gains and you can
Speaker 3: tell by his body he's put some work into it,
Speaker 3: and then him just understanding everything about our offense so
Speaker 3: he can be as big a part of it as possible.
Speaker 2: That's his goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And We talked about it on the show last week, right,
Speaker 1: catching a bunch of passes from different alignments and routes
Speaker 1: and just all the things that he can do. Some
Speaker 1: of the meat on the bone in the passing game
Speaker 1: last year. I think the next step for Devon han
Speaker 1: and why I think this offense can be even better
Speaker 1: and why I keep going back to six hundred points
Speaker 1: because I think it's possible. I think they're the best
Speaker 1: dam offense in the league, one of the best offense
Speaker 1: we've seen in the league in a long long time.
Speaker 1: Let's finish up here with coach McDaniel on where is
Speaker 1: the line between taking the next step or entering the
Speaker 1: dreaded sophomore slump. Here is McDaniel just opening on some
Speaker 1: interesting philosophical football knowledge.
Speaker 3: It is real, it's ever present. It's never gonna go
Speaker 3: away in the game, because you know that a lot
Speaker 3: of times lessons have to be learned the hard way.
Speaker 3: A lot of times there's if you have success as
Speaker 3: a rookie.
Speaker 2: There's you go one of two ways. You're either.
Speaker 3: Starved for more or you can get kind of comfortable.
Speaker 3: I know there's each and every year there's there's examples
Speaker 3: for both and that's that's something that you know, we
Speaker 3: were talking with devaon in our exit interviews when he
Speaker 3: when he was exciting building that whatever you did this year,
Speaker 3: are you expecting more or less? Well, if you're expecting more,
Speaker 3: you definitely can't do less. And so that you get
Speaker 3: in or you get out what you put in. And
Speaker 3: and I think he's aware of that. And and because
Speaker 3: nobody wants to have have the climax.
Speaker 2: Of their career be their first first year.
Speaker 3: So you just keep it real with with guys and
Speaker 3: very honest and and bring up with examples that's happened
Speaker 3: in in the course of your career and try to
Speaker 3: give them the most tools to succeed the way you
Speaker 3: know they want to because a lot of times people
Speaker 3: say always say I want to be better, but it
Speaker 3: just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: All right, So you go really fun podcast today. I
Speaker 1: just cannot get enough of football practice and breaking it
Speaker 1: down for you guys. We'll do it again next week
Speaker 1: three consecutive days on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Tomorrow's episode,
Speaker 1: we're going to take a look at twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: breakout candidates who might be the next Austin Jackson. On Friday,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a mailbag, so we'll get those
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