1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: So a little less than a year ago, maybe a 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: year ago, I think that's I don't remember. How did 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: you meet all on the set of Brandy? That's right, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: so listen. So this story is kind of interesting. So 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: we're shooting All the Smoke in Atlanta for All Star 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: last year, and when we were done shooting, it was 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: kind of like at this what was that place called 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: just a studio and had just a bunch of different 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: sets and everything. So I'm kind of trying to sneak 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: out there like they're shooting a movie in the front. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I need to get out the front. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: So I tried to quietly sneak out, and all of 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: a sudden, I hear someone called like my foot, Matt Barnes. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, like but these people are on 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: a movie set. And I turn around and it's Brandy 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: the singer. And I knew Brandy because she used to 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: date one of my teammates back in the day when 18 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: we played for the Clippers. So like she stopped shooting, 19 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: comes up, says hello, I hadn't seen her in years. 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: And then doctor Holly comes up and like right away, 21 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: she's like, we talked to me and Brandon talking a 22 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit, She's like, have you acted. I'm just like, nah, 23 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: not really. She's like, you need to act. She's like 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: and then we ended up exchanging numbers. Fast forward, we 25 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: both live in LA and she was kind of persistently Hey, 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, I have some stuff coming up I want 27 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: to sit and talk to you about. So she comes 28 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: to my house one day and I was like, hey, 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I got a movie and I want you to be 30 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: in it. I was like, oh, I've done cameos like 31 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: I've done. I was didn't think like a man. I 32 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: didn't have no lines. I did Ninja Turtles, which my 33 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: kids love. I didn't really have no lives there. Like. 34 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: This was different. 35 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: When she was offering me and she's just like, hey, 36 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you can be at like a co lead. 37 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: So and so's in it. I was like, okay, well, 38 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: like we start next week. I'm like, holy shit, I've 39 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: never even done this before. I was just like and 40 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: I was scared, like I would interest me off the rip. 41 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: But I'm kind of all over the place because this 42 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: was a really kind of pivotal time in my life, 43 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: but just also a cool opportunity. I lost my mom 44 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: to Canter in two thousand and eight. But we used 45 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: to watch Lifetime movies together like that was our thing. 46 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: And you told me like, hey, I'm doing this movie 47 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: on Lifetime, And that was the initial even why cause 48 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I've been offered stuff and I've just never really wanted 49 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: to do it, but the Lifetime thing, and it made 50 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: me think of my mom. So, long story short, she 51 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: pitches the idea. I was scared. I was like, oh, 52 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: this is too Like she gave me the script like 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: we're filming next week. I'm like, holy shit, I got 54 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: basketball tournaments and kids and I got to learn how 55 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: to be an actor in a week. So I went 56 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: back to I was just like, I appreciate it, but respectfully, 57 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I think this was too much for my first time. 58 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, well, let's let's we're gonna find something. 59 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: So she found me a role, and to be honest 60 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: with you know, I even told her this like it hurt. 61 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: It hurt my soul to put my badge on because 62 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I just it goes so against that I came from, 63 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: how I grew up the fact that I had to 64 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: put a badge on was but I was thankful for 65 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity that doctor Holly allowed me to be a 66 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: part of and that movie is Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery, 67 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: which premieres on Lifetime June sixth, eight seventh Central, and 68 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it now. On the flip side, 69 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: how I met miss Erica was last year was a 70 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: very interesting time and I've been kind of with it. 71 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I was going on a spiritual journey 72 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: and a friend of mine had recommended a church and 73 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I've never been I've never been to church. Guy, I've 74 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: been to church probably before I started going consistently, probably 75 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: six times, and never with my family, just always with 76 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: friends or a holiday or whatever it may be. So 77 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: I found this church and then uh, you know pastor 78 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Warren Campbell, and a friend of mine was telling me 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: about his background, like, oh damn, I didn't know he 80 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: did all that. And then although she's my wife now, 81 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I told my wife I was, you know, trying to 82 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: get back in good graces all the way we weren't together. 83 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: It was like, babe, I found a church, I want 84 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: you to come. And so she came with me one 85 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: time and you happen to be there and she's like, 86 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: you know who his wife is? And I'm just like, 87 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I know she's saying with the group. She's like, but no, 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: but she really knew. She's like, oh, they got reality shows. 89 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: She's done this and done that and kind of given 90 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: me kind of your whole little rundown. And it was 91 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: just a really cool time. And I told you that 92 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: your I don't want to miss laugh cry, laugh cry. 93 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I came to that and I was single when I 94 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: told myself and I put it on my counts like 95 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to that. I think it'll be cool. 96 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: And I told you when I came on sales, like 97 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you and your husband were very instrumental with me kind 98 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: of turning the corner and and and kind of finding God, 99 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: discovering God and surrendering. And your husband's here. We still 100 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: got to ge out and play some golf. But this 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: whole thing just kind of happened really organically, from us 102 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: meeting to going to church, your guys's church, and then 103 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: finding out you were the star of this movie. I'm 104 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: just like, everything's lining up. I need to do it. 105 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: So without further ado, let me welcome Erica Campbell, Grammy 106 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Award winning Erica Campbell and doctor Holly Carter. Welcome. I've 107 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: never really given that kind of introduction because I was 108 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: all over the place. Normally I'm more buttoned up, but 109 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: this kind of this, this feels different for me again 110 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: because it was such an interesting time in my life. 111 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: And to be able to get to know both you 112 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: guys and share the screen with you Erica was amazing. 113 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: So tell me how, you guys, whoever wants to take it, 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: how this project came together? 115 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: Well, I pitched the concept to UH Lifetime that was 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: based on the Ten Commandments. I wanted to do a 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: slate of films based on the Ten Commandments that I 118 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: would modernize into you know, contemporary storytelling, and that's what 119 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: we did. They loved the idea, and the first one 120 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: we did was vow shall not committed Aultrey and I 121 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: mentioned Erica. I couldn't even get Campbell out, and they 122 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: were like, yes, we want her, she will She's you. 123 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: Know. 124 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: They were very and here's here's the great thing. Certainly 125 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: to her credit. They of course loved the concept and 126 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: you know, we was moving forward with it. But to 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: move forward with the very first one, they were like, well, 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: if Eric is starting in it, that is a surefire 129 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: that we will do it. 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Quickly. 131 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm right, credit okay. 132 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: And let me just make her producers at the same time. 133 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: That's why you wouldn't take my note. I tried to 134 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: give her a note. 135 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Yes, oh did you? 136 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, my schedule's crazy. I was doing 138 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: life right Heill. We had the Tom Joiner Cruise, I 139 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: was doing something with Mary Mary I have like a 140 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 4: bunch of stuff. So I was like, yes, it's not 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: gonna work with my schedule. She's like, okay, we'll shift production. 142 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: I was like okay, and then something else came up 143 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: that I couldn't get out of and I was like, Holly, 144 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to do it. She was like, okay, 145 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: so what do we need to change? After the third 146 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: we need to change. I was like, okay, wait a minute, let. 147 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: Me No does me? No doesn't, and I respect it. 148 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: No doesn't exist in her world. She feels like she 149 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: can get she's gonna get it done. 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: I'm not mad, and that I mean to start in 151 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 4: a film for the first time like this, you know, 152 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: definitely outside of what people know me for. I was 153 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: actually excited to do it because I don't want to 154 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: do what I never liked doing what people expect me 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: to do, Oh she fits here. 156 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm not that kind of person. 157 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: But I knew that it would invite, you know, a 158 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: lot of opinions playing as I was playing with her, 159 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: and she wanted me to play a whore. 160 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: A first lady. 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: She wants me to play a whor who's her husband? 162 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: And like all this stuff. 163 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: But no, I liked the script. 164 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: I was a little intimidated, but not enough to not 165 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: do it because I think that it always speaks volumes 166 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: when you step in areas you've never been to start 167 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: new conversations, because I think that's the only way we grow, 168 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: by having new conversations about things that we usually playing. 169 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not talk about it. That was. That was. 170 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: That movie was. I got to see it for the 171 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: first time. I got home late. I was telling you 172 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: guys before we got a came. I got home late 173 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: from Kansas City. I was coaching my kids and it 174 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: wasn't working on the plane. I finally got my home 175 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: WiFi and it's one thirty the morning. I watched the 176 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: first half of it and watched the rest this morning. 177 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this is It's interesting too, because 178 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: it's a new space for me. So to see how 179 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: everything is kind of put together, and I remember that 180 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: spot and doing that kind of stuff. It was fun 181 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: for me to see. Obviously, Erica, you're most well known 182 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: for just being a powerhouse, six time Grammy Award winner, 183 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: amongst a handful of other accolades you have. What was 184 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: it like really stepping on to a production like this 185 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: and as you just spoke the role you played in 186 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: this particular project. 187 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: I didn't take playing this role lightly at all. You know, 188 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Holly was, you know, kind of coaching me every step 189 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: of the way. We got an acting coach. I took 190 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: my time with the character, like really just trying to 191 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: understand who she was, why she would do this, how 192 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: did she get here, what was she thinking here? And 193 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: so every time I had a scene, I would give 194 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: the scene a backstory as to why she was upset 195 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: or why she was so sad, or you know, why 196 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 4: she was, you know, deciding to this is what I'm 197 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: going to do because this is what I want to do. 198 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: And I think that when you think of the character 199 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: in that way, it allows you to really give a 200 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 4: full emotion and just not just give the words, because 201 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: a lot of what she does was in her face 202 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and her attitude and. 203 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: Like all right, this all right, this is what it is. 204 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: And so. 205 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: I just wanted to do it well and I didn't 206 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: want to have anything else in my schedule, even though 207 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: I had a thousand things in my schedule, so I 208 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: had to just kind of zone in. I mean, I 209 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: think having my husband's support was really great on it 210 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: as well, because I was like, Babe, you good. 211 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: You actually, I mean, this is an interesting space. Yeah, 212 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean because this, I mean the theme is infidelity 213 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: and living in your truth. But there's you know, there's 214 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: sex scenes in it, and I've always wondered, you know, 215 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: how does that you know what I mean? You got 216 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: to be comfortable in the situation, so that part of it. 217 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: Yea, it was well, you know, I called him. I 218 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: was like, okay, this is the day. He was like, 219 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: I don't want you to be whack. That's what I 220 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: don't want. He was like, I don't want people to 221 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: see it and they see first lady who's supposed to 222 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: be standing up at church on Sunday. He was like, 223 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: if you're gonna do it, then do it, and do 224 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: it well. They, I think, because of who I am. 225 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: They brought me like these corny pajamas. I was like, 226 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: nobody is sleeping with somebody else's man and wearing all. 227 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Of these clothes. 228 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: I was like, give me a white beater or some 229 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: shorts that at least makes sense. So I really wanted 230 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: it to be. Yeah, but we did talk about okay, 231 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: touch here, not here, m hm, that this and not this. 232 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: You know, so we had to have those conversations. 233 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: You know. 234 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: He was like he can't grip your buddy, can't, you know. 235 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: Okay, back all right, shoulder, Okay, maybe I'm huge, It's okay, 236 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: but certain areas yet, No, that's just mine. 237 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: I was like, ok, I like talking about Trey. 238 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: Too, because Trey had a very specific approach in how 239 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: he wanted to handle yesers Troy, Yeah. 240 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: But he was security guy. Yeah, yeah, I was excited 241 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: to meet him. 242 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, so he wanted to. 243 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: He just wanted to have a conversation for us, just 244 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: to you know, to meet me and find out who 245 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: I am, what I'm about, which I thought was really great. 246 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: And then he was talking about his faith and you know, 247 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 4: his wife and how he takes things seriously and he 248 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: doesn't just do stuff just to do stuff. So I 249 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: thought that was really cool, because you know, some people 250 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: are just taking a job and they don't really care. 251 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: But I think him and CJ cared a lot about 252 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: not just the role, but how they dealt with me, 253 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: which was really really great. 254 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: You know, or you okay, you're good with this, all right, Okay, 255 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: this is the day to kids. Okay, so you want 256 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: to respectful? Yeah, so that was. 257 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Very respectful the whole the whole day. My daughter was 258 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: on set and she was like, I'm going back to 259 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: the hotel. 260 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: She just rolling her eyes at both of them the 261 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: whole time. I was like, so, yeah, we're acting as 262 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: some movie. 263 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: I know. 264 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't like them. Doctor Holly, why do you feel 265 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: these are important topics to have covered? 266 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: I feel they are important topics to cover because infidelity 267 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: is a big issue in obviously in life, but in 268 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: our world in the Black Church, in the church, and 269 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: we don't talk about it a lot, and when it 270 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: does happen, we push it under and we don't really 271 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: address it. And then if it does get addressed, we 272 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: don't forget if and we you know, almost like you know, 273 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: banish you into the cornfield. You know, once it's done, 274 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: you're done. And so what I love about this is 275 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: we talk about a very hard topic and we you know, 276 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: we make it relevant, we make it you know, purposeful. 277 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: But then we also talk about the redeeming quality after 278 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: you know, the importance of being redeemed because you see. 279 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Her character make the mistake. 280 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: But then we thought it was important for the audience 281 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: to also see her character be redeemed from the mistake 282 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: and realize, Okay, I've done something wrong. And you know, 283 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: if you are a Christian or not, I've sinned or 284 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: I've made a mistake, however you want to categorize it, 285 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: You've made a mistake and now you've got to get 286 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: it right. And so that it's important for me to 287 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: always in storytelling, you know, redemption is always important for. 288 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: Me and how I tell stories. 289 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: And so I wanted to show old the fall, but 290 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: then also show the get up. And I think that's 291 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: a that's a really important. 292 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: Part of the movie. 293 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Important. 294 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: It's just that's in part. 295 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: And it's interesting where we're going this weekend. We're going 296 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: to a big convention of women of women of faith, 297 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: and you know, the I'll never forget listening to the 298 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: lady that heads it. I showed her the trailer and 299 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: she says, oh, that's spicy. 300 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: I said, yes, mother, it's spicy. I said, but it's true. 301 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: She says, yes it is. 302 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to send you another one, and 303 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: so I sent her the one where Erica was repenting 304 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: and crying and she said, who Erica can act? I 305 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: like that one, that one and she said you can 306 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: play the other one later. 307 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: In the presentation. 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: I said, thank you. 309 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: But it just it brings to mind how these topics 310 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: are very difficult topics to deal with. 311 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: I think they're normal in some circles and then not normal. 312 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even say it's not normal because in 313 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: the church people have dealt with it. So the fact 314 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: that people get so surprised and shocked in amaze, it's 315 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: always like weird to me, Like you got a first 316 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: wife and then a few years later it's another wife. 317 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: So like this is. 318 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: A part, like when are we going to have real 319 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: conversations with what people are dealing with in the pews? 320 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: And you know, I like the role because they the 321 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: statistics on whether men or women cheat more often, I 322 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: don't know, but I do know that women tend to 323 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: cheat better, better, quiet more subtle. You're not always aware, 324 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And you even see this 325 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: in this character, like she's like, oh no, put this here, 326 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: have you got do this? Nobody knows, right, whereas guys 327 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: are a little more sloppy. 328 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't you know. 329 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: But I think that being able to talk about it, 330 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: you know, makes women aware of you. Start in January. 331 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: By the December, it's a rat. By January, it's you know, 332 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: it's I could do what I want to do. 333 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh, it's nothing. We just friends. 334 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: We just hang and you know, somewhere it changes and 335 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: it shifts and you begin to rationalize and justify, which 336 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: is exactly what my character you know did When her 337 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: husband noticed it was like, well, let's get rid of 338 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: the security now, She's like, you got rid of my 339 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: side piece, you know. 340 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: So without even asking first. 341 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: That's why she was pissed, right, But her whole character, 342 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: she was tired of being pushed around. Everybody was telling 343 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: her what to do, and so she wanted something that 344 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: I did because it's what I wanted to do, even 345 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: if it's the wrong thing, and a lot of people 346 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: that's where they land. I just want to make a 347 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: decision for me, especially with church women, because there's so 348 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: many rules dressed like this, don't say this, this is 349 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: too far, it's too much, and so sometimes people like 350 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: I just don't want nobody to tell me what to 351 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: do about nothing. But that's irresponsible. It's not discipline, it's 352 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: not it's not being true to the core of who 353 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: you are. You know what I'm saying. If you let 354 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: yourself do anything anytime, you ain't going very far, that's 355 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: a that's a life that's. 356 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: All over places. 357 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: I think everybody needs structure in some sense, even if 358 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: it's within yourself, Like the business of Erica is too 359 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: much for me to make reckless decisions. 360 00:15:59,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: With my life. 361 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: And I think if a lot of people looked at 362 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: it that way, like you're this person of stature and 363 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: you and then you sleep with the security guard like girl, 364 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: you know, get your life together, or guy like you 365 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: you slept with the girl that was doing hair like 366 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: that's you know what I mean, Like, let the value 367 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: be more at least, you know what I mean. 368 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that's weird, sorry, but the truth I mean. 369 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously why this is important, because these 370 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: are conversations that are had but not necessarily on a 371 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: public form, right right, You know what I mean to 372 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: understand that nobody is perfect where you pray to or 373 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: where you know what you believe in. Like, people make mistakes, 374 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: So I think, like you said, the fall is obviously 375 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: something that a lot of people relate to, but showing 376 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: the standing back up and the redemption piece of it 377 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: is very important. Holly. This is a little bit outside 378 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: of the box of what Lifetime attrictionally does, you know, 379 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: more thriller drama. This is layered faith based with some 380 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: with with with infidelity mixed in it. How did you, obviously, 381 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: outside of being able to land her as a character, 382 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: how did you know that Lifetime was the right spot 383 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: for this. 384 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: Well, they actually, you know, came to me for wanting 385 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: to get more into this world because this is this 386 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: is the direction that I have taken in terms of 387 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: my uh career in storytelling. I always want to tell 388 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: stories that are redemptive, still provocative, but at the same time, 389 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, represent principles that we can kind of base 390 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: our lives on, and so they were really interested in 391 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: doing it. They did it, you know in the past, 392 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: obviously we had a very successful partnership with the Clark Sisters. 393 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: It was one of their biggest streaming of biopics in 394 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: the genre. And so this is just us coming back, 395 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: you know, doing it again. This is part too. And 396 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: you know, now they have a star, someone who's willing 397 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: to play a strumpet. 398 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: So since she's willing to do that, we're going to 399 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: do even better. 400 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: The acting was good. That's how when you can't be 401 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: concerned with right, that's the character. 402 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: You're also doing a little bit of cross promoting. Obviously, 403 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: with the film dropping the sixth your book is also dropping. 404 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Tell us about that. 405 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Silent Leak, which is a thirty day 406 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: journey to strengthen and safeguard your marriage. And I've been 407 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: married twenty six years, so I have a little bit 408 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: of something to say. But what I what I love 409 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: about is is it connects with the themes of the movie. 410 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: You know, when you when you forget to pay attention, 411 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: when you forget to connect, you start feeling the leaks 412 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: and the cracks, And if you are unable to pay 413 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: attention to that, or if you're not paying attention to that, 414 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: then that crack, I love quack, that crack becomes a 415 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 3: widened space where not only the enemy, but everybody else 416 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: can get in and you know, in fracture or fracture 417 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: your relationship. And I think it's really important and to 418 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: pay attention. It's the little things. The scripture says, it's 419 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: the small foxes that destroy the vine, and that means 420 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: the little things that you are not paying attention to, 421 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: the little things that you are not given thought to. 422 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: They grow, and when they grow and expand, that impact 423 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: is on your relationship and your marriage. And so I 424 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: thought the timing for the Silent Leak was perfect to 425 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 3: align with the movie, just based on the themes. And I 426 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: certainly think the movie is timely to partner with the 427 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: book because of what we are hoping to communicate. I'm 428 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: praying that people will watch the movie and be encouraged 429 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: to pay attention, to watch the movie and be encouraged 430 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: that if they fall, there is an opportunity to repent 431 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: and get up. And then I'm encouraged that when people 432 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: read the book, they are encouraged by the same You know, 433 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 3: I can do this. I can safeguard my marriage. I 434 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: can keep us on a steady path even when it 435 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: gets hard, because they're just not easy. 436 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: It's worked. 437 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: We all have to participate. You know, twenty six years 438 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: shows that you know, and we're growing strong. We're going 439 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: to be fifty nine years pretty soon. 440 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: You know. 441 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: My baby still looked like it just album there she 442 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: goes so cute. PK. Allright. 443 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: We had briefly met, Like what was it about me 444 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: that you thought that I would work in something that 445 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: you're doing? Well? 446 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: When I was able to finally reach your eyes because 447 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: you're so much holler and I connected, I felt like 448 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: I was really drawn to just your authentic. 449 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: Aura. 450 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: You were just like, hey, nice to meet you. 451 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to call me. 452 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I live in La too. 453 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: You know. 454 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: You were so cool and very like okay, no pretentiousness, 455 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: and a role like this needed somebody that was willing to, 456 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: you know, to settle, to be able to connect the dot. 457 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: And I was talking initially just about the overall film itself, 458 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, and to me, I felt like I knew 459 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: with the themes that we were trying to portray in 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: the movie, and wherever you landed your authenticity, I felt 461 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: like worked for me. You were very late, laid back, 462 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: very low key, but very clear about who you were 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: and you can't come in you know, well, let me 464 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: let me I think about it. 465 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: Let me get me Timmy. You can't come in with that. 466 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: You were strong, and I guess it's the basketball and you. 467 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: Then yeah made it. 468 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: No. I mean, it was really kind of your belief 469 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: in me. And then you connected me with the acting 470 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: coach and we went to work, you know what I mean. 471 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was supposed to have a different 472 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: role with more lines. So initially when I'm bringing through, 473 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: it's like, shit, I need I got some work to do, 474 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I didn't want to 475 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: have this to kind of be my first speaking role 476 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: in me step too far ahead of myself, you know 477 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. So when I you know, when I 478 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: pulled back and initially had said no, like as me 479 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: and Eric were life matter like earl, No, it wasn't 480 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: going to work, you know, so you to be able 481 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: to find me a different position where I can still 482 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of say a few things. And you know, when 483 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: I was going back, it's interesting because I've been on 484 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: TV since the late nineties, you know what I mean, 485 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: playing basketball and seeing myself and having the world critique 486 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: me for that, you know what I mean, So kind 487 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: of looking back and like I said, I made some 488 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: cool cameos on cool movies, but having you know, I 489 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: had like two, two or three lines. Every time you've 490 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: see I think you see me four times, so make 491 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: sure you check it out. But you know, kind of 492 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: seeing myself in a different role, particularly an officer, which 493 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: is if you know me, is wild. This could be 494 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: it's as far as you get. But kind of seeing that. 495 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: And I want to ask you, Erica, obviously you've been 496 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: in the heart of America and in everyone's eyes for 497 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: music and reality TV. What was it like for you 498 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: seeing yourself playing this role one but rewatching it and 499 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: seeing it. 500 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I first watched it, I was so nervous 501 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: and I think I just kept. 502 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: Looking at my hasban. 503 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: You guys watch it together. 504 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: We watched it together. So he scored the film, so 505 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: he did watch it multiple time. 506 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Her husband is the ship by the way, and you 507 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: guys look at Warren kempsall looking up. I'll be on 508 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: my bad. Like I said, I'm trying to fund the world. 509 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet, and that's why you're trying to 510 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: come to church. Yeah, I got to watch my mouth. 511 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, Warren does a lot of dope stuff. But 512 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: he scored the property. 513 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he he had to watch it and I 514 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: was like, babe, just don't put horror music behind it's 515 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: the wrong scenes. That's what I'm just trying to But 516 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: but he did an amazing job, and us watching it together, 517 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: I was looking just to see his face and he 518 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: was like, I'm cool. He's like, I know who my 519 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: wife is. I know the work that you do. I 520 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 4: know the impact that you have. And even from being 521 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 4: a gospel artist, most of my music is not fluffy 522 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: everything's going to be great. 523 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: It's how to overcome. 524 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: It shackles off my feet, it's I can't give up now, 525 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: you know. It's it's all this stuff about overcoming obstacles 526 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: and challenges in life. So I feel like this role 527 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: was kind of reflective of that interest in a different 528 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: way of showing, you know, how easy, how the reason 529 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: I can understand when people fall or mess up. And 530 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: I am a person that has compassion and understanding, you 531 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I don't throw people away. I 532 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 4: believe anybody could be redeemed if they want to. And 533 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: I think this character show that she, you know, everything 534 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: doesn't go back, She doesn't go back to the number 535 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 4: one spot, but she comes back. And I think that 536 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 4: is what I was able to see in the movie 537 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: and why I thought the character was cool and a 538 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: lot I think a lot of women will see themselves. 539 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: They might, you know, start deleting some of them messages 540 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: and some of the people they texting too much. Oh 541 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 4: it's work, you know, all the things that come in. 542 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: But I thought of all of that. 543 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: I got a big circle of women around me and 544 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: we all talked about it before I took the role, 545 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: and they was. 546 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: Like, girl, you got a girl who's the co star. 547 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: I was like, let's just think about the character. Okay, 548 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: I think about the character first. So a lot of 549 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: support even in doing this. So I'm excited about people 550 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: to see. 551 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: So Eric answered a little bit, but I throw this 552 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: to both you guys. What do you hope people take 553 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: from this? 554 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: Well, I think to me, I just I hope people 555 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: will pay attention to their marriage, pay attention to, you know, 556 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: their relationships, be intentional about everything they engage, you know, 557 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: because what you empower, what you engage, you in power. 558 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: And so if you are engaging, you know, late night texts, 559 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: and if you are engaging, you know, stares and looks 560 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: that linger. You need to pay attention to that, especially 561 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: if you are a married woman or committed woman or 562 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: committed man in a relationship. You just have to be 563 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: intentional about your relationship and you've got a safeguard. You've 564 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: got to protect the covenant at all costs. At the 565 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: end of the day, there's nothing powerful that I can 566 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: say in that other than protect the covenant at all costs. 567 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: This is interesting because we never really get the women's 568 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: side talking out loud about this part of it. Yeah, 569 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: it's normally you guys are being the ones that it's 570 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: happening to, and it's the band of sisters to try 571 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: to bring you back up. But to hear the other 572 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: side is kind of giving me chills right now. 573 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: I hope that especially couples that work together, understand that 574 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: you are more than what you accomplish together. You're more 575 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: than what you do together, because if everything is about 576 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: your accomplishments, then that's the goal. It doesn't mean your 577 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: heart's connected, it doesn't mean that you're sensitive or listening 578 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: to one another. Just means you're accomplishing things. And we've 579 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: seen many, you know, public couples be super successful when 580 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: they're everybody's dream, but you can see the disconnect in 581 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: their eyes. And as a little girl, I always paid 582 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 4: attention to whether that wife was smiling for real when 583 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: the husband is up or whether you know, even when 584 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: you see people honored and you see them up and 585 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: they're talking in the white's body languages like like one, 586 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: she hasn't forgiven fully two there's still stuff going on, 587 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: and this success almost feels like an enemy of your relationship. 588 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: And I think that's what was happening, that their successful 589 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: almost the enemy of the relationship, because that's all they were. 590 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: That's what I took from it. I mean, you weren't 591 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: being seen as a person, you know, what was this 592 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: the brand deals and the shows and this and that. 593 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: So make sure you guys check it out before we 594 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: get out of your holly. Anything else you have coming 595 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: up or going on. I mean, since we've connected, we're 596 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: working on some other stuff. Until that manifests a little 597 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: bit further, we can keep that. But anything you have 598 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: that you're working on right now. 599 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, But before I say that, I want to just 600 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: give a shout out to both of you all. You 601 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: all took a role that starting with Erica, that was 602 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: very different. You've never start in anything like this before. 603 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 3: And the fact that you put in the work, the time, 604 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: the commitment. I have to commend you because it shows 605 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: on cameras and I wanted the world to know she 606 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: worked her tail off. And for you, Matt, the way 607 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: you buckled down with the acting coach and we're really 608 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: committed to get the you know, the role right. It 609 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: made the difference in the role and I and that 610 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: and that for me lets me know anything that you 611 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: do you're going to be successful at it. And so 612 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: I'm proud of the work that you did on the family, 613 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: and I just needed to say that really cool. 614 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: I said, the opportunity was amazing, and it came an 615 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: interesting time and again the lifetime faith aspect of it 616 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: or two things. People look at me and think like 617 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: for the shit, but like at that time, it's where 618 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: I was, and it was it was just right on time. 619 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: So again I thank both of you, and it was 620 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: obviously a great experience. But outside of that. 621 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: Outside of that, I am working again with Brandy. We 622 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: are doing the sequel to her Christmas movie and we 623 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: were doing her life story and then of course we've 624 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: got the slate of films with Ten Commandments, and we're 625 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: on now do Thou Shalt Not Lie? 626 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: That's interesting, interesting Erica working on anything right now. 627 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that I had for this. 628 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: Year was this movie and remarrying my husbands. Today I'm 629 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: working on my anniversary twenty five years and I'm working 630 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: on population. But that's been the biggest thing, you know, 631 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: for us. My daughters in school and kids getting bigger 632 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 4: in the church stuff, So yeah, I love that. 633 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery. Saturday, 634 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: June sixth, eight seventh Central Lifetime. Ladies, thank you for coming, 635 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: thank you for working on your anniversity or we appreciate 636 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: you for coming, Doctor Holly, thank you Ma Cheryl, my 637 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: old pr lady that put all these pieces together to 638 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: connect us. It's good to see everybody, And again, make 639 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: sure you guys check this out. That's a wrap for Unplugged. 640 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: You can catch this on all the Smoke Productions YouTube 641 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: and the DraftKings Network. We'll see you guys next week.