Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2: Hi there?
Speaker 1: Who's this.
Speaker 3: Hunter? Hunter? S?
Speaker 1: Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? Is
Speaker 1: that Hunter? Is that Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas? That's him?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I believe that is him. Well, I can only assume
Speaker 2: I got part of my name from.
Speaker 1: There, but you never know it was him Hunter, But
Speaker 1: now it is you. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: How can I get you today? What's what's happening?
Speaker 2: Well? I guess for all that, for all the viewers
Speaker 2: out there, my name is Hunter. I have a multitude
Speaker 2: of disabilities, and for some reason, I generally like to
Speaker 2: see myself as a more chill person. But whenever I
Speaker 2: meet other people named Hunter or other people with disabilities,
Speaker 2: I get really I can only describe it as territorial. Almost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's as uh it says, I get weirdly
Speaker 1: territorial when I meet other disabled folks or other people
Speaker 1: name Hunter. Now, you said territorial is the only way
Speaker 1: to describe this. How would you describe this feeling?
Speaker 2: Almost? I guess the part of it almost feel just
Speaker 2: because I'm you know, I moved around military wise, I'm
Speaker 2: so used to being like almost like one of a
Speaker 2: kind almost, and I think like a weird, weird part
Speaker 2: of me just has kind of like just kind of
Speaker 2: neat on one hand to see, oh that I'm not
Speaker 2: the only one out here with any particular things. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, another part of me almost feels like, well,
Speaker 2: now I'm not special anymore, and that almost almost kind
Speaker 2: of bumps me out a little bit.
Speaker 1: When you were growing up, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, I was gonna say never never had a real
Speaker 2: problem with any any of any of one. I just
Speaker 2: thought it was just a weird thing that I hopefully
Speaker 2: hold on, Like do you hear input on any sort
Speaker 2: of growing up? I never really had this issue. I
Speaker 2: didn't notice. This is how I more so graduated high school.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. How old are you now?
Speaker 2: Twenty five?
Speaker 1: Cool? So growing up? Like okay, so growing up, what
Speaker 1: like did you was be it was like the identity
Speaker 1: of being disabled like important to you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, it was for the most part, like I barely
Speaker 2: noticed it growing up. It didn't become more noticeable until
Speaker 2: I got older.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I ask and you don't have to tell
Speaker 1: me shit, but what what what is your disability?
Speaker 2: I have cerebral palsy scoliosis, and then my doctor says
Speaker 2: I might have a little bit of arthriis in my back,
Speaker 2: so I got to get checked up for that at
Speaker 2: some point as well.
Speaker 1: And like nowadays, like you would would you consider your
Speaker 1: disability like I would you consider it a big part
Speaker 1: of who you are or how you define yourself or
Speaker 1: your personality or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I think because it's at the point where I can
Speaker 2: actually notice how it affects everything, and just how over
Speaker 2: time this changes what I've done and how I do things.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that when you were a kid
Speaker 1: you barely noticed it, but now at twenty five, it's
Speaker 1: like a cornerstone of who you are?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess because as a kid, you know you're
Speaker 2: you just you have a lot of energy. You use it.
Speaker 2: But of course I always instead of using it to
Speaker 2: take care of myself, I'd rad just went off and
Speaker 2: did whatever made me happy. And I can only imagine
Speaker 2: now a lot of that's just catching up with me.
Speaker 1: Now do you have like like how else I mean,
Speaker 1: aside from being disabled, Like, how else do you define yourself?
Speaker 1: What else is important in your identity?
Speaker 2: Well, identity wise, I I think it's important I guess
Speaker 2: I mentioned I'm on the more uh quiet side initially,
Speaker 2: but I do tend to open up as long as
Speaker 2: someone else starts the conversation. Sure, I generally try to
Speaker 2: be on the more friendly side of things, which is
Speaker 2: why I find my weird I guess my weird feelings
Speaker 2: of meeting other people's with similar ailments to be just
Speaker 2: baffling to me.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: This is because I never I never have the issue
Speaker 2: with the person as a whole, like as an individual.
Speaker 2: It's just like I can only explain it. I was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm the this is this is the space
Speaker 2: I've occupied for so long, You're you're in my space. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but again this is I don't have a problem with
Speaker 2: them every normally.
Speaker 1: This is one of those I have these two these
Speaker 1: these thoughts that you have or feelings you have that
Speaker 1: are like guttural, and then there's a second part of you,
Speaker 1: deeper in your brain that looks at that feeling, that
Speaker 1: guttural feeling that you have and goes, why the fuck
Speaker 1: am I feeling like this?
Speaker 2: Oh? Exactly, no one on money. And I find it
Speaker 2: funny because it's like, of all the things to like
Speaker 2: have happened. Every time I meet someone similar, it's like
Speaker 2: this is what I think, and not like oh cool,
Speaker 2: I got to meet someone else. It's my first thought of, hey,
Speaker 2: this is this is my turp? Are you coming after
Speaker 2: my friends?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: One can't have that right.
Speaker 1: Right right right? I feel like there's a way, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah I have. I have that too, where like you're
Speaker 1: talking to someone and you're thinking something and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: the fuck did I think that? I should? You know?
Speaker 1: Where's that coming from? You know? Like I but there's
Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a power in that self
Speaker 1: awareness that you can use, right like, because you can
Speaker 1: theoretically you can, to some degree, I think, train your
Speaker 1: brain to not feel certain I don't know, I'm I
Speaker 1: Actually this is something I have thought about a while,
Speaker 1: Like can you train your brain against these certain guttural feelings?
Speaker 1: You can try. You can definitely, like have be be
Speaker 1: mindful of it. And every time you're talking to another
Speaker 1: disabled person and something in your brain goes like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm the only motherfucker with cerebral palsy on this block.
Speaker 1: All right, this person's on my turf. You gotta you
Speaker 1: look at that thought and you're like, you know, you
Speaker 1: understand that you do not desire for that to be
Speaker 1: in the in the lexicon of your brain and you
Speaker 1: and you take it and you put it away, you know, right.
Speaker 2: I think I think for me too, at least I'm
Speaker 2: we're an up toward at least in my friend group,
Speaker 2: Like I'm constantly joking about my own my own ailments.
Speaker 2: I'm very self deprivation wise in my in my humor
Speaker 2: love it m So it's it's enough towards like I
Speaker 2: know this isn't really a problem, but you know that
Speaker 2: it's just interesting to think. Definitely think I can definitely
Speaker 2: train myself to not go go to that right away.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta ask you this. I get it. I
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from, what the cerebral p with
Speaker 1: like the you know, being territorial about disabilities. I get.
Speaker 1: I understand kind of why you might be having those thoughts,
Speaker 1: But I have I have no idea why you're territorial
Speaker 1: about other people named Hunter.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think part of that just comes
Speaker 2: to at least growing up, like I was, finding at
Speaker 2: least all the places I've lived, finding someone named Hunter
Speaker 2: was a rare thing, and now it's becoming more common,
Speaker 2: and the more the more often I hear someone else
Speaker 2: being called that's not me, the more like weird and confused,
Speaker 2: but just I just get confused. And you know the
Speaker 2: part of that, I think also comes back to what
Speaker 2: golf see, I'm not I'm not as special as it
Speaker 2: used to be.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You know what, how actually, now that I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: it every time, now that I'm thinking about it in
Speaker 1: the two or three times in my life I've ever
Speaker 1: met another lyle, there is a little part of my
Speaker 1: brain that goes like, yeah, fuck this guy, right.
Speaker 2: And I wonder, I wonder how much of that comes
Speaker 2: to When I was a kid, there was another person
Speaker 2: in my kindergarten class named Hunter s And from what
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: I almost have wanted to kill him.
Speaker 2: I thought he was loud and obnoxiousness like I just uh.
Speaker 2: And I wonder how much of my subconscious mind associates
Speaker 2: other people with that specific Hunter, despite you know, everyone
Speaker 2: being so different. It's like, oh, this is a far
Speaker 2: cry from who they used to be when they were
Speaker 2: in kindergarten. I doubt this person named Hunter I'm talking
Speaker 2: to is that.
Speaker 1: And now let me ask you this has this terror,
Speaker 1: this territorial thing that goes It just goes on in
Speaker 1: your brain, right, It's going on in your brain and
Speaker 1: you're looking at it, and you're going, why the fuck
Speaker 1: am I thinking like this? Has there ever been a
Speaker 1: time where any of your these thoughts of territorialness have
Speaker 1: ever creeped their way in or manifested themselves in your
Speaker 1: words or actions to these these other people?
Speaker 2: I want to say no, But a part of me,
Speaker 2: just because I'm typically shire around, you know, meeting new folks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wonder if to a degree that manifests itself as
Speaker 2: almost like a standoutiousness.
Speaker 3: Mm, but I don't think so. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, man, I think, but I think I would
Speaker 1: just uh yeah. It's hard. It's hard to get your
Speaker 1: brain to not think thoughts that you don't want it
Speaker 1: to think. But in the brief moment, I was in
Speaker 1: the brief moments where you do. It's like lucid dreaming,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like when you when you
Speaker 1: when you have that awareness that you're dreaming, and you
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you could control your dreams. You
Speaker 1: can kind of do that with your thoughts too, Like
Speaker 1: you have this awareness that you're acting or thinking in
Speaker 1: a certain way that you don't like, you can take
Speaker 1: you can rein it in and you can go. You
Speaker 1: know what, there's there's room in town for multiple coool
Speaker 1: disabled guys named Hunter, right, And.
Speaker 2: I know at least where I grops. I'm from Washington State.
Speaker 2: It was a very communal you know, if I find
Speaker 2: out other folks with disabilities like it is a community thing.
Speaker 2: We were all Everyone was nice, everyone was friendly. So
Speaker 2: it's like, there should be no reason that this thought
Speaker 2: even occurred to begin with, let alone after high school.
Speaker 1: Alternatively, you could challenge them to a duel, and that
Speaker 1: would I don't know if that'd be healthy, but it'd
Speaker 1: be sick.
Speaker 2: It would be very it would be interesting, But I
Speaker 2: feel like I'd get more stuck on the kind of
Speaker 2: duel and that would essentially have them be aw it
Speaker 2: go away in boredom, because I feel like I'd get
Speaker 2: a little too specific.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's say I'm all right. Let's say I
Speaker 1: roll up to you and I'm Hunter, and you don't
Speaker 1: like the sweat of my brow, and you don't like
Speaker 1: my name, and you don't like that I'm in a wheelchair,
Speaker 1: and you want to duel me? What what? How would you?
Speaker 1: What would the what would the parameters of the duel be?
Speaker 2: Oh, I guys first and foremost said, and I'd have
Speaker 2: to find, of course, something that works for the both
Speaker 2: of us and both of our ailments, because you know,
Speaker 2: I want this to be a fear duel, and now
Speaker 2: a do I consipally want to because I'm while I'm
Speaker 2: han some issues walking, I'm still not wheelchair bount yet,
Speaker 2: so I'd want to make sure to establish some fear ground.
Speaker 2: But ideally we'd find something that we both can we
Speaker 2: could both do to a healthy and skillful enough degree
Speaker 2: to where it doesn't come off as a one sided duel,
Speaker 2: you know, because I imagine if we're gonna have a duel,
Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be like an old, old Wild
Speaker 2: West movie. There's gonna be a lot of onlookers. Everyone's
Speaker 2: coming to the center of town ready to watch watch
Speaker 2: everything just go down. So I hopefully find time that
Speaker 2: we're both good enough at so we don't quite embarrass
Speaker 2: ourselves in front of everyone else.
Speaker 1: Do you if you're in a wheelchair, can you ride
Speaker 1: a horse?
Speaker 2: You know, I has a good question because I me
Speaker 2: me personally, I've been fortunate enough to where I, like
Speaker 2: I said, only only recently have I really struggled with walking.
Speaker 2: And I think that's more from the scholistice of anything.
Speaker 2: But I do remember seeing this gentleman on TikTok whose
Speaker 2: sister tends to get him a lot of gifts that
Speaker 2: don't quite fit him and his disability. So I know
Speaker 2: and wanted the TikTok. She put her brother on a
Speaker 2: bike and it just kind of fell over with him
Speaker 2: on it. I imagine with a lot of upper body strengths,
Speaker 2: you'd probably be able to hang on to the horse,
Speaker 2: but I don't think you'd be able to get a
Speaker 2: good I guess, like a kicken to push the horse forward.
Speaker 1: You know, So jousting is out if you were to
Speaker 1: all right, let me I'll phrase you this before we go.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 3: Hunter?
Speaker 1: Hunter? If you could pick, what would you pick as
Speaker 1: the as the dueling activity.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be. I feel like there's gotta be a
Speaker 2: spectacle to it for sure.
Speaker 1: Right, you just want to do chest.
Speaker 2: I generally if we can put on a bunch of
Speaker 2: suits of armor and fight with swords or poss some hands,
Speaker 2: like I feel like that'd probably be the way to go.
Speaker 1: Let me know if you do this, because I want to,
Speaker 1: I want to m see it.
Speaker 3: I will keep you posted.
Speaker 1: Good sir, Hunter, thanks for talking about I hope this
Speaker 1: conversation was of of any remote kind of sort of
Speaker 1: minuscule amount of good for you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's saying fantastica.
Speaker 3: I appreciate a lot.
Speaker 2: Think you get there.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: Hunter, I guess, I guess. I hope everyone else is
Speaker 2: enjoying them some timing, and I say, and also of
Speaker 2: things to be all dark, things will get better. I've
Speaker 2: hand many on and off in the last two years.
Speaker 2: You folks can get through it. You'll have yourself in
Speaker 2: my sight.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Hunter, Take care, take care. If there are
Speaker 1: any liles out there who would be willing to accept
Speaker 1: my challenge of fighting to the death with shotguns, let
Speaker 1: me know.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 1: It's your name, partner, my Corey. It says here you
Speaker 1: texted me saying I used to work for Paul Rudd
Speaker 1: and now I can't stand the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: Off, all right, you know this is the the tell
Speaker 1: all is this the first? This is some real this
Speaker 1: is a hot goss that you're about to drop on
Speaker 1: the Therapy Gecko show. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to m Z knocking down my door, but fuck.
Speaker 3: It, I signed an NDA, but you know, enough times
Speaker 3: past I wonder, I wonder.
Speaker 4: I for okay, I think we're good.
Speaker 3: So I worked on a I worked on a show
Speaker 3: with him. The show was called The Shrink next Door.
Speaker 3: In my job, I was a production secretary, which is
Speaker 3: a production office position. Basically, you're like the lackeys of
Speaker 3: the producers. If like the producer wants you to get
Speaker 3: something done, like hire a vendor to do X. I'm
Speaker 3: just the guy who communicates with a vendor and gets
Speaker 3: things done. And we were shooting in Los Angeles. Paul
Speaker 3: Rudd lives in New York. He's from New York. He's
Speaker 3: a New York guy, right. So my job, I was
Speaker 3: assigned the job of helping Paul Rudd find a home
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles for him to stay for like six
Speaker 3: months for the duration of the shoot because he wanted
Speaker 3: like a home home, so I had to I had
Speaker 3: to help him find the home home. So what I
Speaker 3: did was I reached out to realtors and I would
Speaker 3: get the best properties they had in the budget. I
Speaker 3: found out what his budget was for months, and it's
Speaker 3: not his money. He's spending productions paying for him to
Speaker 3: come out, because you know, it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3: If you're making the guy come live somewhere to shoot,
Speaker 3: you might as well pay for his home. So his
Speaker 3: budget was crazy. And this was back in like twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, so it was like in the middle of
Speaker 3: the pandemic, so it was tough. I had to like
Speaker 3: find realtors I could work with, so I had a
Speaker 3: bunch of properties.
Speaker 1: I like it. Let me ask you, Let me ask
Speaker 1: you something this real. What's your name again?
Speaker 3: My name's Corey. Are you for a while, so if
Speaker 3: I need to speed it up? Please?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you sure you're well?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: This is all Look, here's the thing. This is all
Speaker 1: fascinating information for me. But are you sure you're allowed
Speaker 1: to tell us all this?
Speaker 3: I think the NBA I signed pertains to the pertains
Speaker 3: to the content of the product, which has already been released,
Speaker 3: so like I couldn't tell I had access to scripts.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you before it was released what was
Speaker 3: in the scripts? My guess Okay, all right, this is
Speaker 3: a good question.
Speaker 1: I guess. I want to make sure that nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that Paul Rudd's not gonna
Speaker 1: fucking snipe you while you're on the phone with me.
Speaker 3: This is a good point. I'll avoid numbers going forward. Paul,
Speaker 3: I have if you hear this, I have respect for
Speaker 3: you in your position. You ticks me off a little bit,
Speaker 3: but you know.
Speaker 1: I thought you well, I thought you hate Okay, let's
Speaker 1: let's keep going because I thought you hated the guy.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so okay. So he pissed me off, and
Speaker 3: then the same year he pisses me off, he becomes
Speaker 3: like this guy alive. And that's the thing, like like
Speaker 3: he like the guy's always been popular since he's been
Speaker 3: a movie star. But then like this year he exploded,
Speaker 3: of course when he pisses me off.
Speaker 1: So like, why did he piss you off?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay. So like basically I had to
Speaker 3: do like my whole job transition from being a production
Speaker 3: secretary to being Paul Rudd's realtor basically finding him. I
Speaker 3: was in contact with multiple realtors, multiple properties, sending him
Speaker 3: to the properties making spreadsheets and I finally like, narrow it
Speaker 3: down to like four properties. I went to twelve properties.
Speaker 3: He wanted me to be a videographer for him. Video
Speaker 3: all the properties, edit the videos down to like four minutes, synopsises,
Speaker 3: and narrate, so like this was my whole job was falling. Finally,
Speaker 3: Paul read a home for two weeks and he needed
Speaker 3: to move in. I had two weeks to find the
Speaker 3: home and need to move in in two weeks, like
Speaker 3: things needed to move. This was hard. So the work
Speaker 3: was laborious, difficult and frustrating, and the communication from him
Speaker 3: was very poor, and like, we get close to locking
Speaker 3: in one place, and like I thought we had it,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, he's like, I don't
Speaker 3: like the vibe at this place, so we're changing it up.
Speaker 3: So we changed it up. And I was like, I
Speaker 3: was a good sport. That was a good sport. I
Speaker 3: find this, I find a place. It's Gerard Butler's home.
Speaker 3: I might be sharing too much again, are.
Speaker 1: You are you sure? Are you whatever?
Speaker 3: Man, We'll go with it. We'll go with it. Lord, Paul,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know we're good, but moving forward. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we get Gerard Butler's home, I do video tours with it.
Speaker 3: We we settle on it. Good done, deal, deal is signed,
Speaker 3: and then he obviously is like, wait, Core, are you
Speaker 3: free for more work? I was like, okay, okay, I
Speaker 3: think I should probably get back to the production stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's Paul read I'll do. I'll do
Speaker 3: what he wants me to do. He's like, can you
Speaker 3: make me a home gym in Gerard Butler's home? And
Speaker 3: this is like again at the start of the pandemic context,
Speaker 3: it's in Los Angeles, Like everyone's trying to make a
Speaker 3: home gym now because no one wants to go to
Speaker 3: the gym.
Speaker 1: This this this this making a home gym? Is this
Speaker 1: like an extra thing on top of what you already
Speaker 1: get paid from the production.
Speaker 3: No, I would still even be doing a production secretary,
Speaker 3: but I'm hired by a production company that is making
Speaker 3: something that Paul Rudd is an executive producer for. So
Speaker 3: in the structure of things, like I kind of work
Speaker 3: for Paul Rudd, like his assistant should be doing this job.
Speaker 3: But because the indirect way I worked for him and
Speaker 3: his assistant already does enough things. He decided I was
Speaker 3: the guy right, and I already made I mean I
Speaker 3: already made a house appear for him. So it's like, here,
Speaker 3: this guy can do another thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: get the guy at home gym. But it was like
Speaker 3: the hardest thing. I'd like assemble it from like four
Speaker 3: different rental vendors and I finally get it all set up.
Speaker 3: I hire movers. The costs were exorbitant, Like everyone realized
Speaker 3: the home gym acquipment is so valuable right now, so
Speaker 3: the prices are so high, So like I have to
Speaker 3: hire movers to come things in. I have to install
Speaker 3: a new floor in Gerard Butler's home to protect the
Speaker 3: antique floor, just like rich people problems, so like there's
Speaker 3: some maybe class resentment here too, or I'm like solving
Speaker 3: rich people problems and getting paid Tenny's to do it.
Speaker 3: So then it's all done right, So it's all set up,
Speaker 3: the home gym set up, put my heart and soul
Speaker 3: into it. It was actually excited to do it for him,
Speaker 3: and I face silent. I FaceTime him and I'm like,
Speaker 3: here's the moment. You're gonna show off the house, You're
Speaker 3: gonna show off the home gym. You said all this
Speaker 3: love labor you put into it, and he face silent,
Speaker 3: and I will say, he's a very nice guy. And
Speaker 3: it's like the kind of nice where it's like it
Speaker 3: almost hurts it so nice where it's like he's killing
Speaker 3: you with kindness. So everything he says, everything he says,
Speaker 3: you can't be mad about because he's his tone is
Speaker 3: so sweet. But I show him the room and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Corey a great job. But you know, I really, I
Speaker 3: really prefer to do my workouts clockwise around the room, man,
Speaker 3: because I like to go from station to station doing
Speaker 3: my workout right, So I need you to to rearrange
Speaker 3: the room so I can do that, And like the
Speaker 3: mover's just left.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, hold on, hello, Hell he likes so he
Speaker 1: wants to have the machine, so he wants the machines
Speaker 1: set up so that he he rotates through them clockwise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm I'm gonna give him some empathy here.
Speaker 3: This is Marvel time. So he's got like a man
Speaker 3: workout routines he's got to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know what, you know what, you know what,
Speaker 1: you're you know what? All right, if we're giving if
Speaker 1: we're giving credit to Paul Rudd on a few things.
Speaker 1: It's a good I'd say, I'll give I'll give this
Speaker 1: to paul A. If Marvel is like paying for me
Speaker 1: to do whatever I want. I'm ringing that tab up.
Speaker 1: I'm ringing that tab up. And what if it's Marvel's money.
Speaker 1: I'm like this, this is like if Disney is paying
Speaker 1: for you. I'm like, yeah, let me just you know,
Speaker 1: this is infinite money. So I get him on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I get I get I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: I guess if you're like a big fucking movie star,
Speaker 1: like you know, your whole thing is uh, Although who
Speaker 1: really gives a shit about the physique of ant Man?
Speaker 1: Can't he just be like skinny? Isn't that the whole thing?
Speaker 1: It's like he's I don't know.
Speaker 3: They blow him up pretty big when he goes I
Speaker 3: don't know what it's called, when he goes into big
Speaker 3: ant Man. For him, he's pretty big. He's big on
Speaker 3: the screen. You know you gotta look good for that shot? Sure, reckon?
Speaker 1: So he so he wants to do he wanted to
Speaker 1: do the workouts clockwise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I had to like not double my
Speaker 3: budget for the whole space, but I had to like
Speaker 3: hire movers to come back, and it took like three
Speaker 3: or four of them because it's heavy gear and like
Speaker 3: again more considerations with the space being like a classic
Speaker 3: historical house. Uh So, just like the budget went up
Speaker 3: like crazy again and my pay didn't Again class's classics.
Speaker 3: That man, that's the that's the truth of it. Here.
Speaker 3: He was very sweet about it, but I had it
Speaker 3: all sorted out. So all of it was sorted out,
Speaker 3: and this kind of fueled my desire to fucking want
Speaker 3: to leave the type of work I was doing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You'll you'll probably never work in the
Speaker 1: film industry again. But it's a good thing because, as
Speaker 1: you know better than I do, it's a terrible place
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, yeah, ahead, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: I I mean, yeah, I've been abused since I got
Speaker 3: out here. My first job that I worked on was
Speaker 3: Barry and the fucking prop Sky was like emotionally a
Speaker 3: manipulative and abusive. Yeah, I've had a I've had a shit.
Speaker 1: Experience in the so I used to I've never had
Speaker 1: I've never had any there's I've never had anyone like that.
Speaker 1: I would write an expos about or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I mean people people are people
Speaker 1: are definitely crazy this. I once had a guy, Well
Speaker 1: you're telling me about all this, like I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: this because you're telling me about like, oh I met
Speaker 1: I was. I thought I was gonna be like on
Speaker 1: the set of Marvel movies, and now I'm like helping
Speaker 1: a guy build a home gym. I was once a
Speaker 1: PA on a show as a PA, and the executive
Speaker 1: producer of the shoot had this like a van that
Speaker 1: he wanted to deck out. So he basically just had
Speaker 1: me like drive the van all around Atlanta, like going
Speaker 1: to various home depots, like getting supplies for a van
Speaker 1: that I'm pretty sure I had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the show, but he just you know, I was kind
Speaker 1: of his bitch, so I so I did it. But
Speaker 1: you know, those are like, I guess those are the
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, I guess I guess that's
Speaker 1: what you do, all right, as you're you're kind of
Speaker 1: a bitch for a while, and then eventually you work
Speaker 1: your way up to having somebody else build your home gym.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, I mean maybe I feel like it doesn't
Speaker 3: work out like that. After ninety five percent of people
Speaker 3: in the business burnt out and then leave. But my perspective,
Speaker 3: my healthy I get I'm like twenty seven now, so
Speaker 3: I've got a healthy perspective on this. It's I, you know,
Speaker 3: ate ship for a while and didn't get paid a lot,
Speaker 3: but I have some cool stories from it, and I
Speaker 3: think I grew and got some good experiences that helped
Speaker 3: me be a better person from it at the very best.
Speaker 3: But I didn't I didn't. I didn't tell you that
Speaker 3: the worst part of the Paul Red Store. So you
Speaker 3: had me to do all these jump through all these hurdles,
Speaker 3: and then I left the show because I was so
Speaker 3: sick of it. That was like one of the one
Speaker 3: of the breaking points for me. And then the other
Speaker 3: breaking point where I was like the producers made a
Speaker 3: bunch of decisions that were like anti worker and I
Speaker 3: had to be the mouthpiece and tell like spread the
Speaker 3: news to the crew about all the sho things Like
Speaker 3: the producers didn't want to say anything, so had me
Speaker 3: say over them, and then I like would take like
Speaker 3: violate union rules. I would just share information in the
Speaker 3: ways that like I had to tell the crew members
Speaker 3: that they weren't going to get hotels when we were
Speaker 3: doing travel shoots, like I had to be that guy
Speaker 3: sharing information that was like the crew would hate me for.
Speaker 3: So then they all like call me screaming at like
Speaker 3: two am in the morning about how I'm I personally
Speaker 3: am violating union rules by following the orders of the producer.
Speaker 3: So I just like quit. I left that show. But
Speaker 3: I heard, so I left the show I happened to
Speaker 3: four months later, I checked in with Paul Red's assistant
Speaker 3: because I wanted I was curious. I had a more
Speaker 3: bit curiosity. I was like, did he did he ever
Speaker 3: use the home gym? And the personal assistant said, I
Speaker 3: can guarantee you he'd never use the home gym once.
Speaker 1: All of this for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then then a few months later he got
Speaker 3: sexiest Man of the Year, I think, so then yeah,
Speaker 3: I got super at them all.
Speaker 1: Damn you know because right, because here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: at least you know, if he had used the home gym,
Speaker 1: at least you could have been like I had I
Speaker 1: played my little part in him achieving his sexiness, but
Speaker 1: he didn't use the gym.
Speaker 3: So I got the frustrations. But well, that's cool.
Speaker 1: That's about. That's Honestly, that's a better story than I
Speaker 1: thought it would be. I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: he hit you or some ship.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he's a good guy and it fucking sucks. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I can't. Can I swear.
Speaker 1: You you're totally allowed to uh discuss the financial details
Speaker 1: of of people that you've signed NDAs to not talk about,
Speaker 1: but no, you cannot say fuck.
Speaker 3: All right, well I'm already on my way out of
Speaker 3: the business anyways, mine as well.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, is and I I we're getting
Speaker 1: like inside baseball or whatever. But it's all it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it used to be that you had to
Speaker 1: right yet to go and be a PA and like
Speaker 1: be someone's bitch, and then eventually you just be a
Speaker 1: bitch for a while. And like, right, five percent of
Speaker 1: the people who are lucky, if even that, they get
Speaker 1: to go make a movie, but you don't. Really, you
Speaker 1: don't have to do that anymore because now you can
Speaker 1: just make a movie and put it on the internet
Speaker 1: and do ship that way.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 1: You know, I did a little bit of of you know,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time as an intern, you know,
Speaker 1: being people's bitch. But then most of you know, whatever
Speaker 1: I've got came from the internet, so it's a little
Speaker 1: a little bit of both doesn't hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's so true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what's next for you? Are you always?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What? What are you going to go into?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: If you're not, what's what's what's next for you?
Speaker 3: Currently? I'm a cinema lens technician and that was going
Speaker 3: great until the strikes. So my my whole life in
Speaker 3: the film industry has been like getting shipped on like
Speaker 3: and then now the strikes. And I support striking workers everywhere,
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean I'm not impacted by it. And
Speaker 3: I'm not in any union, so I don't really get
Speaker 3: strike funds or union protections. So I'm kind of business
Speaker 3: isn't great right now? I work for a rental company,
Speaker 3: a camera rental company, and you know, shout out to
Speaker 3: be Sinny. It's a really great company. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't know. I think I want to go
Speaker 3: into like real estate photography. Honestly, I've always been passionate
Speaker 3: about cameras and I have done a lot of photography
Speaker 3: in the past, but never like architectural or real estate.
Speaker 3: And you know, I I don't know if I can
Speaker 3: make some money off the back of some realtors selling
Speaker 3: investment properties. That feels like a more ethical way to
Speaker 3: go about an industry that's actually proven to make people money.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. I'm still working it out, but.
Speaker 1: I do have to say I do have to say this,
Speaker 1: and I think you understand this as well. You know,
Speaker 1: say what you will about Paul Rudd and your experience
Speaker 1: with him, But it sounds like he awakened within you
Speaker 1: this desire to do real estate photography.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. He pissed me off enough to make me
Speaker 3: reject his fucking kool aid. Paul Rudd.
Speaker 1: Wait, but isn't he He's the one who would he
Speaker 1: He told you. He was like, I need you to
Speaker 1: make these short films of each room in the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh dude, he got Oh wait, oh, I see
Speaker 3: your point. I was doing real estate videography and photography
Speaker 3: for him, right, and he is the impetus. Ah Okay,
Speaker 3: So now now it's supposed to like worship him, huh.
Speaker 3: I should be I should be thanking.
Speaker 1: Him exactly exactly that. I'm trying to think of. What
Speaker 1: was the one I don't think I've ever seen ant
Speaker 1: man actually have you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen one in two. This is a third one,
Speaker 3: but that one looked crazy, so I checked out.
Speaker 1: Are you like, are you not going to watch any
Speaker 1: Paul Red movies anymore?
Speaker 3: No? I just watched I Love You Man the other
Speaker 3: day and it was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you know you pissed me off. You got
Speaker 3: sexiest man alive. But you know he still has a
Speaker 3: place in my heart.
Speaker 1: He could, he could probably hit me and I would
Speaker 1: still watch his movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know where the line is. He hasn't
Speaker 3: crossed it yet, but there'll be something. Wait. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to bring up Israel palacetime, but I think
Speaker 3: he made some comments recently. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just so just one last ditch effort to get something
Speaker 1: in on it. Yeah, Bro, what's your name again? Cory?
Speaker 1: You're a cool guy, man. I hope uh, I hope
Speaker 1: you you whatever thing you get out of or into
Speaker 1: that you find, find success and peace of it.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Lyle. I don't I don't know you. You don't know me,
Speaker 3: but you know I like you a lot. You're a
Speaker 3: great guy. You do good things. I hope you're taking
Speaker 3: care of yourself because I think you are taking good
Speaker 3: care of everybody that you talk Tom.
Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to do whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Well you can do, dude.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Well take care of man, and good luck, sir.
Speaker 1: You're the sexiest man alive in my book.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, take that Paul later, buddy. Bye.
Speaker 1: Something tells you I'm going to be hearing from some
Speaker 1: lawyers sometime soon.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 1: This is Brandon.
Speaker 4: This is Brandon.
Speaker 1: Have we ever spoken before, Brandon?
Speaker 3: We have not?
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful, Well, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Man? Hey?
Speaker 4: So me and my friends are all having a competition
Speaker 4: to see you can get with the most women before
Speaker 4: the end of the year.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm and I am in dead last.
Speaker 1: Uh what was the what was the impetus of this competition?
Speaker 1: How did this come about?
Speaker 3: Because it was kind of just like a last year.
Speaker 4: We kind of thought we're talking and I was my
Speaker 4: body counts is pretty low and all this are pretty high,
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I guarantee, if I really
Speaker 4: tried to, I could get with more women than any
Speaker 4: of you guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, and are you what does you really trying to
Speaker 1: what does that look.
Speaker 4: Like like actually like going out of my way to
Speaker 4: pursue like a like a like sexual intimacy with other women?
Speaker 1: Sure? How how uh? How has that endeavor been going
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 4: Absolutely terrible?
Speaker 1: Why has it been going terrible?
Speaker 4: I'm pretty bad at talking to women, to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, You're bad at You're bad at talk. You're bad
Speaker 1: at talking to women. Is that what you said?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not my it's not my strongth Okay, what
Speaker 4: do you are you?
Speaker 1: Are you on Tinder? Are you? Are you? What are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: It's just like an in person thing. We kind of
Speaker 4: just go to parties and kind of just my thing.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 4: Twenty two?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Are you in college? No?
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: Okay, m hmm. I mean what's your what's your like?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 1: Is this an endeavor coming to you because of social
Speaker 1: pressure or loneliness or just sexual frustration? Like? What what
Speaker 1: is is? What is the true motivation behind this quest
Speaker 1: to get pussy?
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you, right, but.
Speaker 1: The whole getting pussy, there's there's still a motivation behind that.
Speaker 1: I think and again and you and look, the motivation
Speaker 1: behind that could just be he it could look. If
Speaker 1: your truth is that the motivation behind that is is hedonistic,
Speaker 1: then that's fine. But I just want to know what
Speaker 1: you know, what is your the motivation behind getting pussy?
Speaker 4: Oh? I think it's to prove something to myself.
Speaker 1: There we go. All right, that's what I'm that's what
Speaker 1: we're getting at.
Speaker 5: What do you yet?
Speaker 4: For one minute, I'm selling a graphics card for a
Speaker 4: lot of money, and.
Speaker 1: It's going to help me selling a graphics card for
Speaker 1: a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, are you are you giving up?
Speaker 1: Are you giving up video games? And a and a
Speaker 1: and an attempt to be more attractive to the opposite sex?
Speaker 1: I think so, to be honest, Okay, how long is
Speaker 1: it gonna take you to sell this graphics card?
Speaker 4: One minute?
Speaker 1: Back? All right? You can put me on hold, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a munch of I'm gonna say a
Speaker 1: lot of mean things about you while while you're selling
Speaker 1: this graphics card.
Speaker 3: That's okay with me?
Speaker 4: All right, give me give me one minute, please and
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 1: This guy sounds like he smells bad. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is at all. Awesome, Okay,
Speaker 1: I really want to hang up on him, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this play. I actually don't really want
Speaker 1: to hang up on him. I'm fascinated by his plate
Speaker 1: and I would like to hear more. Wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: funny if this guy killed him? Like it was just
Speaker 1: a Craigslist serial killer guy?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 1: I never understood like Mercury or Craigslist or Facebook, but
Speaker 1: like the whole, like meeting up with strangers to sell stuff,
Speaker 1: like when you do the Internet. Although I guess that's
Speaker 1: kind of what this guy is all about. He's like
Speaker 1: on tender and meeting up with strangers anyway. So whether
Speaker 1: it's for you know, romantic sexual interest or to sell
Speaker 1: a graphics card, I guess. I guess this guy's meeting
Speaker 1: up with strangers. It's been more than a minute. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I have any more ranting within me.
Speaker 1: You don't have time to call her, you don't have
Speaker 1: time to joke around. You got to get back on
Speaker 1: the fucking phone. I don't want to hear you laughing.
Speaker 1: This guy's yucking it out. I'm on hold. Listen to
Speaker 1: this guy yuck it up with the Craigslist killer.
Speaker 4: This is what I'm talking from.
Speaker 1: What do you do. All right, Yeah, all right, Brandon,
Speaker 1: we can we can include those rants. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just wait until he comes back.
Speaker 4: I'm back. I'm back, I'm back.
Speaker 1: All right, you're back. There we go. All right. I
Speaker 1: was about all right, all right, sorry about actually was
Speaker 1: I actually wasn't about to do anything. I was. I'm
Speaker 1: in a pretty page.
Speaker 4: Okay, I heard, I heard my name. No no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no no.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you were. You were yucking at you were
Speaker 1: making jokes.
Speaker 5: I know, I know what you were hit You were you're.
Speaker 1: Hitting on anyone that moves. You were hitting on the
Speaker 1: person you were selling the graphics card too.
Speaker 4: It was it was a little Asian guy.
Speaker 1: Why not Jesus christ Man? All right?
Speaker 5: Well okay, okay, okay, so let me let me so okay,
Speaker 5: So the whole thing is that I have two bodies
Speaker 5: and all my friends are like mid twenties thirties, and
Speaker 5: it's kind of like a it's kind of like a
Speaker 5: thing that you like, put me down.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It was kind of just to prove something to myself
Speaker 4: that I could not so much prove.
Speaker 3: It to them.
Speaker 1: All right, So what I mean, what exactly are you
Speaker 1: trying to prove to yourself here because because you know
Speaker 1: I I'll tell you this, I've been there. I've been
Speaker 1: like you know, I remember when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I was like one of the last of my of
Speaker 1: my friends to have sex, and you know, I remember
Speaker 1: that making me, you know, right feel in that way
Speaker 1: like you needed to prove something, like you know, I
Speaker 1: needed to prove something to myself or you know, it
Speaker 1: made me, you know, feel lesser than and whatnot. You know,
Speaker 1: So I I understand where this is coming from. But
Speaker 1: when you when what can you go in more? And
Speaker 1: what you mean when you say you're trying to prove
Speaker 1: something to yourself.
Speaker 4: So I think it's just like trying to give myself
Speaker 4: some type of worth. I don't I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's the right word for it.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's like I'm.
Speaker 4: Kind of something to myself.
Speaker 6: But just when you keep kind of failing, it's kind
Speaker 6: of like it's like I'm starting to get the feeling
Speaker 6: that like this doesn't really matter in a way.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think I've actually, you know, I remember having several
Speaker 1: moments where I like learned this lesson in real time,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to like the pursuit of sex,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like I remember in college, I
Speaker 1: was like, you're the a number, like a number of
Speaker 1: girls that you've slept with. I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: it's not going to It is not a long lasting
Speaker 1: solution to any sort of lack of self esteem or
Speaker 1: self worth.
Speaker 4: You know, I think I think that's more what it is.
Speaker 4: It is like I'm I'm a pretty good looking guy.
Speaker 4: Like I'll say, it's not like Hockway, but it's just
Speaker 4: I just don't know how to use my words. Like
Speaker 4: I get nervous. You know, you see a pretty little
Speaker 4: Latino girl standing there, and you just get nervous.
Speaker 1: You got to stop with the race thing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that right now. If you just stop stop
Speaker 1: doing that, just stop. I don't know what you're I
Speaker 1: I can already kind of tell why the words aren't working.
Speaker 1: You got to stop doing that. I look, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a bad guy, and I understand
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, but you gotta stop doing that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Okay, Where were we?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What tell me? Tell me in your in your life
Speaker 1: in general? Do you feel like you have a low
Speaker 1: kind of self worth?
Speaker 3: Astely?
Speaker 4: I really like I grew up, like I was in
Speaker 4: and out of foster care as a kid, and it
Speaker 4: was It's just I feel like that kind of was
Speaker 4: the start of it, like no self worth.
Speaker 1: Mm hm m hmm. Okay, all right, so this is
Speaker 1: like I mean, this is we're in real therapy territory.
Speaker 1: This is like an issue that stems from your childhood.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know my parents, Like I can't really blame them.
Speaker 4: They were like they were mid high school and like
Speaker 4: back then, like abortion wasn't really uh like a feasible option.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: So they're kind of.
Speaker 1: You had you had teenage parents. Yeah, yep, that's rough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to real therapy to talk about this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, well look, I'm I'm just a dumbass and a
Speaker 1: gecko costume who I'm gonna be. I'm a little high
Speaker 1: right now too, which I'm not normally and I regret
Speaker 1: just now admitting it, but I'm trying to be more myself.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be honest with you. But you should,
Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity to, you should go and
Speaker 1: talk to someone because it sounds like there's some deeper
Speaker 1: rooted issues if we can I think establish something from
Speaker 1: just us talking right now, anything, I hope it is
Speaker 1: that you understand. I mean you you clearly understand this
Speaker 1: because you're talking to me about it and I didn't
Speaker 1: even have to, you know, dive too deep into you
Speaker 1: for you to say something. Is that whatever is going
Speaker 1: on with you in terms of this lack of confidence
Speaker 1: or self esteem, it's something deeper that you're not going
Speaker 1: to solve by you know, going and and fucking a
Speaker 1: bunch of different people. So for that so then for
Speaker 1: you to then get sad about the fact that you're
Speaker 1: not fucking a bunch of people and have that be uh,
Speaker 1: you know, limiting, and have that be like a hit
Speaker 1: to your self esteem? Is why are you It's like
Speaker 1: it's like it's meaningless because it's not even the thing
Speaker 1: that is causing your low self esteem. Does that? Are
Speaker 1: you following me? Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so, I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's not even the fact that like they don't
Speaker 4: necessarily want to sleep with me. It's like I think
Speaker 4: I get more of like a thrive off of just
Speaker 4: the interaction itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you that's I know, I know what you
Speaker 1: you are you saying you get a throat you thrive
Speaker 1: off of like just this idea, you know, not even
Speaker 1: like you know, like sleeping with someone, but just this
Speaker 1: idea that like somebody would want to sleep with you,
Speaker 1: like that makes you feel attractive. Yes, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I feel like that's a feeling that you know,
Speaker 1: is all people chase. I don't even I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a gender thing even I feel like everyone it's
Speaker 1: a common thing that people. People want to feel like,
Speaker 1: they want to feel attractive. So yeah, but but that
Speaker 1: goes that goes back to why, like why do you
Speaker 1: feel like you need that?
Speaker 4: So every single relationship I've been a part of, I've
Speaker 4: been cheated on mm hmm, and it's you know, it's
Speaker 4: just like like obviously they don't like me or they
Speaker 4: don't want me, or so it's like just just to
Speaker 4: get out there and get that feeling of not love,
Speaker 4: but like just attraction. Right, Like I don't want to
Speaker 4: go into like a new relationship because that's just it
Speaker 4: just opens up scars and then you can I'd rather
Speaker 4: just get that little bit, get that little bit here
Speaker 4: and there to keep me going without having to jump
Speaker 4: in a hole something new.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But that but then you know, and then but I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not sleeping with these women. So then it's
Speaker 4: like this whole trade that me and a couple of
Speaker 4: friends are doing is just it's not working out in
Speaker 4: my favor, like for the quote unquote game. But it's
Speaker 4: like it's feed it's feeding me a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I think I I also and this is a
Speaker 1: whole other thing that I want to I have other
Speaker 1: things I kind of want to talk about with this first.
Speaker 1: But I think it's this is a it's a mistake
Speaker 1: to gamify this.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I think it's a mist to gamify this because that's
Speaker 1: not that's not the game you want to be playing
Speaker 1: because for a well, for for for a lot of reasons. One,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if uh this competition is
Speaker 1: something you want to brag to other people about. That's one.
Speaker 1: But two it's like, uh, the games you want to
Speaker 1: play are are going to be games with yourself, not
Speaker 1: games with like oh, how many you know girls can
Speaker 1: I sleep with? Or how much you know external you know, uh,
Speaker 1: positive feedback? Can I get that? Will that will fill
Speaker 1: up my cup? And it's it's weird. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: it right now. I'm thinking about it right now because yeah,
Speaker 1: when you get that that positive feedback and you it's
Speaker 1: sort of like it's like a quick fix, it's like
Speaker 1: eating fast food something like that. It makes you feel
Speaker 1: really good in the moment, but it's not a it's
Speaker 1: not a great long term uh you know, play because
Speaker 1: you still at the end of the day, whether if
Speaker 1: you're not you know, comfortable with yourself, then you're fucked.
Speaker 1: No no, no amount of you, you know, no amount
Speaker 1: of of of Tinder hookups is gonna to make you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 4: Mm hm. And I feel like the game I'm playing
Speaker 4: is just making it worse too, you know, if you
Speaker 4: get denied and then it's like, oh, like the self
Speaker 4: worth drops again, but like the talking brings it back up,
Speaker 4: and then you get shut down.
Speaker 1: You know what, what's your name again? What else do
Speaker 1: you do with your life? Brandon?
Speaker 4: I work, I work, I do, I design, three D
Speaker 4: I three D print a lot of stuff kind of
Speaker 4: like a closet and nerd.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you this then? And I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to. I don't want I feel
Speaker 1: like I, by the way, I just gotta like snap
Speaker 1: out of it for a second. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been going real hard therapy mode.
Speaker 4: I've enjoying just talking to you.
Speaker 1: What what aspects of yourself do you feel at unsettled with.
Speaker 1: Let's say.
Speaker 4: I don't like wearing shorts. I have cankles, not fat,
Speaker 4: I just I just have cankles. I just have really
Speaker 4: thick thighs or like ankles. I don't know. I wear glasses.
Speaker 4: Like my hairlines starting to fade back a little bit,
Speaker 4: but it's not It's nothing like you can't really look
Speaker 4: past you know what I mean? Mm hmm. You can
Speaker 4: still looking mirror and be like, all right, I still
Speaker 4: look good.
Speaker 1: But you know I'm in this. I used to talk
Speaker 1: about this on the stream more. I haven't read it
Speaker 1: in a long time, but I read this book a
Speaker 1: little while ago. It's it's by a guy named Mark
Speaker 1: Manson who wrote he wrote this other book that was
Speaker 1: like super popular called The The Subtle Art of Not
Speaker 1: Giving a Fuck.
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember I remember you bringing that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've talked about this this before. He wrote this
Speaker 1: other book that, uh I thought it was really interesting
Speaker 1: called Models that's it's like it's sort of a dating book,
Speaker 1: and the the thesis of it. I really like the
Speaker 1: thesis of it, which is basically, like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not about what a game or like how to say
Speaker 1: the right thing or anything like that. It's more about, like,
Speaker 1: wh how do how do you like before anything? How
Speaker 1: do you make yourself into a person where you like
Speaker 1: yourself and you like who you are, and you like
Speaker 1: your life and you're living, you know, honest to yourself,
Speaker 1: and then how do you honestly project that out into
Speaker 1: the world. And the idea that if you do those things,
Speaker 1: you know, you just you just become a more naturally
Speaker 1: attractive person, which I think is an interesting thing. A
Speaker 1: guy named Mark manson, Okay, hmm, what do you do
Speaker 1: for work again? You told me, but I forgot.
Speaker 4: Oh I don't think I told you. I worked for
Speaker 4: a recycling company appliance crusher, So I just crush appliances
Speaker 4: all day.
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. That sounds like it would give me
Speaker 1: all the sexual pleasure that I would need.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's it's cool.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's pretty cool. It is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Are you Is this like kind of the only aspect
Speaker 1: of your life that you're feeling unhappy with. Is is
Speaker 1: kind of the romantic sexual sphere of of humanity?
Speaker 4: Yeah, at the moment, at the moment, right now, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would. I would say that's kind of my my
Speaker 4: big thing. Mm hmm. But I don't know. I find
Speaker 4: a lot of joy in a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Good, good, keep doing that. I don't know. That's it's
Speaker 1: a hard it's it's it's it's in general and for
Speaker 1: for for for men and women. Really hard to navigate
Speaker 1: that that spectrum of life. And I myself, I am
Speaker 1: pretty fucking terrible at it. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But photography is fun. It's really fun to take pictures
Speaker 4: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like, what's the last thing? You took?
Speaker 4: A picture of the Chicago skyline?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I've been listening to I listened to that song by
Speaker 1: Kanye West Homecoming.
Speaker 4: You know that one? Yeah? Yeah, I know that one.
Speaker 1: It's a six songs about Chicago.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I live like thirty minutes from more uh from where
Speaker 4: yay was?
Speaker 1: I feel like, since I'm Jewish, I'm allowed to listen
Speaker 1: to Kanye West. Is that fair?
Speaker 4: I think everyone should listen to Kanye West.
Speaker 1: You just you just keep you just keep uh you
Speaker 1: just keep raising those flags my friends.
Speaker 3: I know. No, I like Kanye.
Speaker 4: I try not to, like pay attention to the media
Speaker 4: too much.
Speaker 1: You never know, do you you sound like you're are
Speaker 1: you like in the I don't know the I don't
Speaker 1: know what you would call it, the the dark web
Speaker 1: of the internet whatever they call that.
Speaker 4: If you've been Reddit, then yeah, look, go.
Speaker 1: I don't know, lift some weights. Stop referring to people
Speaker 1: by their race. Okay, go go try to talk to
Speaker 1: some people.
Speaker 4: Sam, Wow, I got a question for you.
Speaker 1: I might answer it. What is it?
Speaker 4: What was it like meeting Eric Andre?
Speaker 1: It was cool. He's a cool guy and I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan.
Speaker 4: Oh, Mike, Yeah, it was. It was a lot different.
Speaker 4: The podcast with Eric was a lot different than what
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: What did you think it was gonna be?
Speaker 4: Like how you guys talked about like portraying yourself, how
Speaker 4: you portray yourself, like you know, when he's going around
Speaker 4: city putting his tongue in people's mouths, going burnt up,
Speaker 4: you know, I was. It was weird. It was like
Speaker 4: I was seeing a whole different side of him.
Speaker 1: It was I was. It was kind of There was
Speaker 1: a funny moment where I handed like, we take we
Speaker 1: use air pods to like listen to the calls and stuff,
Speaker 1: and so I handed him a set of air pods
Speaker 1: and he he was like, are these clean? And I
Speaker 1: said to him, I was like, I was. I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting him to ask me that because I have seen him,
Speaker 1: you know, put his fingers in several strangers' mouths. But
Speaker 1: the way he the way he described it was that
Speaker 1: he's he's only you know, he's a totally totally different
Speaker 1: guy when he's performing than he was living his normal life.
Speaker 1: But he was a cool guy. I'm glad. I'm very
Speaker 1: appreciative of him of doing the podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was. That was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: Oh and and Danny Brown. You had Danny Brown on
Speaker 4: the podcast, didn't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, I got a question for you. What's it
Speaker 1: like being friends with Devon.
Speaker 4: Den?
Speaker 1: I took a wild guess that one of your friends
Speaker 1: names was Devon.
Speaker 4: No, I don't have any friends.
Speaker 1: That's not true. You have these weird friends that you're
Speaker 1: making this bet with. Who are these friends? By the way,
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 4: Got my boy, I got my boy Carson, and I
Speaker 4: got my boy Dylan, friends and childhood?
Speaker 1: Okay, are they good guys? Are you friends with them?
Speaker 1: Do you like them?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Day one, day one homies.
Speaker 1: That's That's the most important thing in life, I think,
Speaker 1: is to have good.
Speaker 4: Friends, something someone that you know you have you can
Speaker 4: lean on a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, Brandon, I was this conversation remotely helpful for you?
Speaker 3: Lyle?
Speaker 4: Just hearing your voice made it all with it, and yeah,
Speaker 4: it was, it was, It was helpful.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Stop buying Kia Souls and Ford Explorers because you look
Speaker 4: like cops.
Speaker 1: You should what you My last piece of advice is
Speaker 1: that you should take more walks in the park than
Speaker 1: you do looking at car facts on Reddit. Maybe that
Speaker 1: will make you I don't know, maybe that'll improve your
Speaker 1: life somehow. Anyway, now that was a dud shooting, we'll
Speaker 1: say take care man, thanks.
Speaker 4: For having absolutely thankfully. I have a great night you too.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I feel like that guy. I
Speaker 1: feel like nothing that I said to that guy got
Speaker 1: was he listened to. I've been that guy. I've been
Speaker 1: in college being like, oh I need to have sex
Speaker 1: with people so that I can feel good about myself.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible, terrible pursuit. Goes on the line, taking
Speaker 1: calls every night. Everythig Kid goes through.
Speaker 3: His eye is teaching him Cloud to livy life, but
Speaker 3: he's not really an expert.