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Speaker 1: They volunted information to me unwillingly the time. So so yeah,

425
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's grown from that point. But I

426
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: think we need some people to help fund the movement, right,

427
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: every single person has their benefactor, and that's how we thrive.

428
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: And so I'm willing to step out in front and

429
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Speaker 1: make a lot of money for the better min of men.

430
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: And that's me the Martin third King of All Comedy.

431
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: That's actually huge of you to say, and maybe that's

432
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: the title of Martin Luther King a kiding of comedy. Um.

433
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting that everyone is kind of

434
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: getting to know you as an online presence, because we

435
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: sort of got to know you as a live performance presence.

436
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: And I have to say I love your unhinged live shows.

437
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: I have seen you be given a seven minute slot

438
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: that went on for twenty minutes and not a damn

439
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: person was upset about that. And let me tell you,

440
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: you were not getting off that stage at all. I'm

441
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: bad at telling the time, truly did not, right, bitch?

442
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: Do you know exactly how long you're up there? No?

443
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean it. No, it's no. This is this

444
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: is the thing that Josh Sharper marked on is that

445
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: z has always been an anarchist and it's and it's

446
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: and it's anarchy that she sort of brings to the

447
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: live performance aspect of her of her of her comedy

448
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: is that it's like I'll keep playing ponderoast and with

449
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: O Marista. Is that the song that you that that

450
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: was normally replayed from Milania to Sri Lanka? Excuse Lanka?

451
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry? Can you wait? Can you just remind

452
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: me love the lyrics? Um? I love to shop with

453
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Milanda and Sri Lanka Lanca. My clothes like my Oscar

454
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: de la I love my boys, love my Calvin's and

455
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: my toys, love my Gucci and Pucci. Pretty hello, Katie Meo.

456
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: And Milannia is only really mentioned in the chorus or

457
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: is she like I feel I feel like she's sort

458
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: of thrown in there. Yeah, she's a red herring for sure. Yeah,

459
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: that's herring in the song exactly. It's about the women

460
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: who are friends with Milania. Who is shopping with Milania? Yeah,

461
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: it's an exploration and you famously would not leave the

462
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: stage until every audience member knew every word, sang along

463
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: at a and was up out of their chair bopping

464
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: like it was that's true. And you know how that started. Actually,

465
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: I did the pop show and Dwyane Perkins was going

466
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: to be the closer and I really wanted to see

467
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: him because I think he's one of the best dancer

468
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: comedians ever. And he was late and I was like, so,

469
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I feel the time? Like

470
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: I have extra time at Union Hall? Like what do

471
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: I do? So? I did Milan a second and I

472
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: checked is do I in here? No, He's not here,

473
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: So I did it a third time. In the fourth time,

474
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I think I did it seven times back to back

475
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: until he finally got and so that that was the

476
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: birth of what it was at Union Hall. Um. But yeah,

477
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: I was maddening, people got upset, people left. Um, someone

478
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: who brawd on stage. That was awesome. So it's polarized,

479
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be polarizing. Yeah, that was a really fun show.

480
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: I did that show a couple of times. Yeah, I

481
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: brought I brought my songs. Yes, your songs are amazing.

482
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: The Disney Prince I love that. Well it's called Disney Gay,

483
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: but thank you very much, I do it. Do consider

484
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: myself a Disney prints on a Disney Gay. Yeah, that

485
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite shows actually, because I love

486
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: when people come bring their music. Yeah, I like I think, well,

487
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: I just I get I got tired of like this

488
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: whole do a set to your stand up and it's like,

489
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: why are we here? Yeah? So I like a theme

490
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: show because I get to turn looks. Really it's for

491
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: my wardrobe and me exercising that. Yeah. Well, I feel

492
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: like the wardrobe ties into a cultivated persona or a

493
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: persona that I think you are on the way to

494
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: cultivating thank you, which is pop star. Can we talk

495
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: about this, yes, I My plan is to be a

496
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Speaker 1: pop star in the next two to five years, and

497
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: I give us details. Well, I'm I am a pop star.

498
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: I have pop im cat suits. I just bought a

499
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: new body suit that's in the mail UM and so

500
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: my goal is to tour worldwide with UM Pop Show.

501
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: And my idea behind this is that there's nothing there's

502
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: pop stars are like the least political figures in American history,

503
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: famously pop like, Oh, I don't want to comment on

504
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: that because it affects sales. I thought about the politics.

505
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: I just focus on the music. And so I kind

506
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: of pitched the idea like, what would happen if a

507
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: pop star was inherently political, could have testful and talk

508
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: about universal healthcare and universal basic income. And so that's

509
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: been the genesis of my popstar our character. Well, what

510
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: do you feel about the fact that Taylor Swift is

511
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: coming for your spot? Now? I love it. I love that. Hey,

512
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: God bless we need more people to talk about important

513
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: things before the death of democracy. That's true, But pop

514
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: stars and their entry point into any sort of political

515
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: thought is always like it comes from such like a

516
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: a sub baseline understanding of the way. Like I'm not

517
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: saying they're not dumb, They're just like they're like stating

518
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: things that like everybody kind of knows. And I feel

519
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: like I kind of I mean, I mean, there isn't

520
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: a political concept that like no one that everyone is

521
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: familiar with, um, just on the same level. But I

522
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes pop stars sah and I'm just like, yeah,

523
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: we've we've known that. Do you remember Pink song Dear

524
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Mr President, you only boy about George? It was like

525
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: a girl, we know, we know what she What was

526
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: she saying about George Bush? It was just like, dear

527
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Mr President, what made you this way? What damaged you so?

528
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: Literally the line was were you lonely? Boy? Hey? God?

529
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: You know? And also like um, of course Kelly Clarkson

530
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: had her song. Of course she had a song like that.

531
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: Literally was when we when they go low, we go Hi,

532
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: didn't U didn't a young um, a young man say

533
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: that you guys stole his moment from him? Yeah? This chaos,

534
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: This is chaos. Um. This was when we weren't have

535
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: the view. This was no, we do have to this

536
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: because because if we have chaos here on the pod,

537
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna actually bring chaos of our own, so listen.

538
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: We actually went to the View and it was because

539
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: we were actually having a hard week that week, and

540
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: that was a very fought week, and we went to say,

541
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: let's take our minds off every anything and go to

542
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: the Kelly Clarkson Kelly Clarkson at the View, and a

543
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: producer reached out to us and said, we have tickets

544
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: for you guys. We know that Matt, you're a Kelly

545
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Clarkson fan, so you should come to the show with

546
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the plus one on this day. And yes, this is

547
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: a very hard I mean, should should we say what

548
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: this week was? Matt? It was literally the week we

549
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: found out that Bone was getting s and L and

550
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't. So it was like it was like tough.

551
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: It was like it was not like it was. It

552
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: was a very emotional week, and so we said let's

553
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: and Boone was still deciding whether or not to take it,

554
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: and I knew he was gonna take it, and I

555
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: was just like, let's just enjoy these last couple of

556
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: days of of it being the way things are, because

557
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: things are going to change. And it was an emotional time.

558
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Ultimately everything happened for the best and everything is amazing,

559
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: but that that day it was hard. So then we

560
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: went and literally we were there because the producer said,

561
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: we know you're Kelly's biggest fan. So then we get there,

562
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: they have these seats for us. They put us in.

563
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: There were in the second row. And then I start

564
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: hearing titters around saying that the producers saying, we heard

565
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Kelly's biggest fan is here. We heard Kelly's biggest fan

566
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: is here. There might be something. And I said to

567
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Boone and I was like, you don't think that they

568
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: put us here, because like there's gonna be a thing.

569
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Because honestly, had they put us on television that day

570
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: and Kelly talked to me, I would have been really

571
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: embarrassing and cried. I was so emotional. So then Kelly

572
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: comes out does her interview, I'm sort of shaking the

573
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: whole time. Meanwhile, you should know that everything Sunny Houston

574
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: said all day. Bone and I were like, yes, yes, Sonny,

575
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: go get him Sunny way to go. Well that's a

576
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: different story. Wait, she'd be fabulous, but she would never

577
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: go on. She she she I don't think she'd ever

578
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: go on Rony. She's too classy. Ron Anyway, back to

579
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: the view and you guys, but so anyway, Um, which

580
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: one more sunny thing? Which is during during a break

581
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: we said it was Bowen and I said at the

582
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: same time, you look amazing sunny, and she turns to

583
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: us and she goes, thank you. You know, when we

584
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: have days off, I don't even wear makeup, Like wow,

585
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: it was so and then she turned around she goes, Nope,

586
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't wear makeup at all. And then

587
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: the show started again and she was like talking about

588
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: healthcare or whatever. The other the other the other sunny

589
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: thing I want to say is, um, there was a

590
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: dance contest that was being hyped up by the warm

591
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: up comic during one of the commercial breaks, and they're like,

592
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: it's all these like, you know, suburban moms from Jersey

593
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 1: or Connecticut or Long Island just like dancing, dancing, dancing,

594
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: and then um, you know, the crowd gets hyped up,

595
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: and then the warm up comic throws it over to

596
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the panelists and she goes, Sunny, what did you think

597
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: of the dance contest? She goes, I loved it, and

598
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: then the warm up comic throws it over to Whoopy

599
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: and goes, Whoopy, what did you think? And then Whoopy goes,

600
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about this iconic, iconic, so funny, funny.

601
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: So anyway, they're like, Kelly's biggest fan is here, Kelly's

602
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: during an interview, and then then they they they stop

603
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: everything and they're like, okay, well there's someone really important

604
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: that that we want you to talk to. And they

605
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: go over to this other day that's sitting like sort

606
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: of right in front of us, and then he tells her,

607
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly, like, I'm your biggest fan, Like I've

608
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: lost ninety pounds listening to your music every day when

609
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I was on that treadmill you were with me, and

610
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, that's so cool. Yeah, yeah,

611
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: actually have a ticket for you to the concert. And

612
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: he was like cool, cool, great, and he got to

613
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: go up and then get tickets, etcetera. We didn't know

614
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: that they got us on camera, but they did, and

615
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: the whole clip of us hearing the whole thing is

616
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: online and Bowen the whole time is just living for

617
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: this other day, getting his moment, and so you know,

618
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the background of it was so dark, so dark, and

619
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and then we brought this, we brought this moment up

620
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: like a few episodes ago, and then and then I

621
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: think I think there was a dust and the kid

622
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: got upset again because he his his this clip was

623
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: going around again, and then he was just like, this

624
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: is another reminder about how terrible of a day that was.

625
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: And it's like, wait, I can't. We can't weigh you

626
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: getting you being able to talk to like your your

627
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: idle and you're like you're you're your hero worship person

628
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: against me and my friend making funny faces like to

629
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the side, like it's not the same thing. I was like,

630
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: it was like, this is funny. I talked to him

631
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: back in front of the d m S. I was like,

632
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: you don't see how this is funny and he was like,

633
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: it really hurts me the comments. I'm like, I understand that,

634
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: but what was I gonna do not post this if

635
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: we had it? Like, come on, bitch, you guys are wild. Okay.

636
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Speaker 1: I was on your side until he said you were

637
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Speaker 1: dming him telling him he it's funny. No, because he was.

638
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: He he kept he kept replying to all these tweets,

639
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: being like stop it now, I'm hurt. This is this,

640
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, I feel bad.

641
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: So I got in the kids dm s and I

642
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: was like, Hi, I'm sorry that people are saying these things.

643
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Speaker 1: I hope you know I'm not. I didn't post this

644
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: at your expense. I posted at my own expense because

645
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that everyone that like knows who

646
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: I am. Like, I have some listeners of a podcast

647
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: I do they know what a big fan I am

648
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: of Kelly Clarkson and me not getting this and you

649
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: getting it and the way my friend is acting is funny.

650
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: That's why I posted it. And he was like, yes,

651
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: but it's really hurtful these things, And I'm like, dude,

652
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what, it's just going to be a difference

653
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: of opinion because because the way, wouldn't you agree? I

654
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: feel like this is something that people can glean from

655
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: from the show. From your show too, is that like

656
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: grafting on any sort of victimhood narrative? And I'm watching

657
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: like Search Party right now, which I think deals with this,

658
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: like like being too suffused in a victimhood narrative is

659
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: kind of like destructive in terms of in terms of

660
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: like what it does to people sort of in your

661
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: immediate vicinity when it comes to a certain situation, because

662
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know if this kid is

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: necessarily a victim in that situation, do you know what

664
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: I mean? But he was kind of like going around

665
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: social media saying that he was and it's like, wait

666
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. He was

667
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: saying that that that this happening had made it a

668
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: bad memory for him, and I'm like, you know what,

669
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: that's actually pathetic. Wait wait wait, do do you agree

670
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: with him that that you guys made it a bad

671
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: memory for him? I mean, you know, I can see

672
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: his perspective as someone who probably has like what a

673
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: hundred followers, and then too people who have hundreds of

674
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: thousands of followers. Big, get over it. It's not a

675
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: bad memory had that been. Who do you stand the most?

676
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Which pops are? Do you stand the most? Sana? I

677
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: love Rihanna? Okay, So Rihanna is up on stage, they say,

678
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: and you've been given tickets to a show. They say,

679
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: we know that z Way loves Rihanna, So we're setting

680
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: z Way up in the second row. By the way, also,

681
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: z Way, the biggest career opportunity of your life is

682
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: not going to you, but your best friend is going

683
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: to go join your other best friend at that opportunity.

684
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Just f y, I deal with us in the same

685
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: hour that we're gonna watch Rihanna tell this other girl

686
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: and I have a whole moment with her. And then

687
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: you get footage of you finding out that in the

688
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: moment on YouTube or not on Twitter, and you wouldn't

689
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: post it. You're saying that you wouldn't post it us

690
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: the way I would post it. I would post it,

691
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: but I would knowing that it might hurt their feeling

692
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: and that if it did hurt their feelings, I am

693
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: at fault for it. But it's okay sometimes, And that's

694
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: that's why I apologized. Well, you're it was a really

695
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: an apology, but it was. It was a genuine apology.

696
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: I got on the kids ms. I said, I'm so sorry.

697
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: This was not my intention. Literally, if you watched the

698
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: clip and take yourself out of it, it's at my expense.

699
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: That's why I posted it. And then he was like, well,

700
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: you made it a bad memory for me, and I said, again,

701
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. That's kind of what happens when you

702
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: go on television. This is so funny and unhinged, and

703
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: it all revolves around Kelly Clarkson on the view, so

704
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: it is really ridiculous. He's saying amazing. I love that.

705
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: You guys love Kelly Clarkson. I love Pauli Clerkson. Behind

706
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: These Hazel Eyes is one of the first songs I learned.

707
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Um with my voice coach. Um, Wow, that's a hard song.

708
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: That's hard line. No, she's fantastic. She's a fantastic singer. Um.

709
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: She seems like she has a great charm. Justin from

710
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Justin to Kelly was a hit. It was. It deserves

711
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: to be in the Criterion collection. I agree, you should

712
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: go on Kelly Clarkson's emy winning daytime show. I would

713
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: like to be I would like to be packaged with

714
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: her show, like an hour long just you should be

715
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: packaged with her show. You the Way is pro packaging.

716
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: By the way, this is so controversial what you say.

717
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Speaker 1: The Way is anti w G A pro packaging. I

718
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: hate I love the Open Class, even though I'm not

719
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: a part of it. Yes, oh my god, Bone, I

720
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: just noticed your shirt. Bone is wearing his Taylor Swift

721
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Lost Culturesta's merch. Love it merch. Please be guys, get

722
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: some get merch getting well, can they can? I still

723
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: buy it? I think I think that I think the

724
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: site is down, but we're gonna get it going. We're

725
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: going up again. We have a lot of Taylor Swift

726
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: merch you can buy um someday. Um. But I did

727
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: just want to bring up the way because I was

728
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: watching Watch What Happens Live the other night and then

729
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: who did I see but z Way doing the Mozel

730
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: of the Week. You have come out Yeah, fast and

731
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: furious as team Denise. Are you guys, um Team Denise?

732
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: I am Team Denise. Okay, yeah, so it's other team Denise.

733
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: Are you abstained? Yeah? I just think it's like if

734
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: like you're not the police, Like, who's leave this woman alone?

735
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: If she doesn't want to he doesn't want to talk

736
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: about it, Yeah, she doesn't. So let's let's actually let's

737
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: explain this to Bowen in our terms and see if

738
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: he's Team Denise, so ze Way, lets let him know

739
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: what's going on with Denise and the ladies on Beverly Hills. Okay,

740
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: So let's say I'm Kyle Richards and Denise, Yes this

741
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: is you're great? Okay. So Kyle gets information from Brandy

742
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: gland Felle, that Denise allegedly had sex with Brandy in

743
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: a hotel room on set, and that she cheated on

744
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: her husband she's bisexual, and that she all of her

745
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: cast mates, that she called Erica Jane cold, that she

746
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: thinks Timmy Mellencamp is living in her father's shadow even

747
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: though she still goes by her father's surname, that she

748
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: thinks how doesn't care about them, etcetera, etcetera. Now the

749
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: fans are divided. Half of the people think that Kyle

750
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: Richards has a right to ask Denise to prod Denise

751
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: about this, that Lisa r enough about it and it's

752
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: totally cool because that's what the show is about, being honest,

753
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: and the other the right side of history, believes that

754
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Denise Richards shouldn't have to talk about things she doesn't

755
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about and the and walking off set

756
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: on reality TV is actually the realest way to behave Okay,

757
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: So I for context, is is it every every housewife

758
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: is against Denise or there's no one on Denise's side? No,

759
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: So basically what's happening is Denise has Garcela Bova on

760
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: her side, and which kind of inherently makes her makes

761
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: that the right side. Um, but also she's got Dory

762
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: Kemsley on her side, which is a little bit of

763
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: a twist. So and I know it's it's it's so

764
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: really surreal to see this happen. But so basically half

765
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: these women are saying, we want to get to the

766
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: truth of this matter, and Denise is like, it's not

767
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: true and I don't want to talk about anymore. Brandy's

768
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: making shipped up. And the other women are like, okay,

769
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: well we don't really believe that she's making it up,

770
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: and then Denise is like, well, I don't really know

771
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: what to tell you now. Usually, it should be noted

772
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: there are some inconsistencies in Denise's story. She does seem

773
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: like she's hiding something a little bit, but the way

774
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: the women are going about it and pushing and pushing

775
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: and pushing and have been pushing her all season on

776
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: other issues, such as she didn't want to talk about

777
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: sex with the girls at a party where her kids

778
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: were at and all the women thought they were judging

779
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: them as mother's for doing that. There's this narrative that

780
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Denise's quote unquote hiding something and your Brandy Glandville with

781
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: this information that they hooked up because she thought that

782
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Denise and her husband had an open marriage, and Denise

783
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: said in the morning, don't tell my husband. He'll kill me.

784
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: So Brandy, who famously was cheated on by her husband

785
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: with Leanne Rhymes, was not down with cheating. So when

786
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: this happened to her, she felt like shit and told

787
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: the women, now, there's a lot going on here. So

788
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: I feel like the reason I said, of course, of course,

789
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: when when you guys said that there was some conflicting

790
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: there was some contradictory things about her recounting, I'm just like,

791
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: of course, of course, Like anytime your product product product,

792
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: like you know, things get sort of lost in translation.

793
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: They come out when you feel on the spot. Yeah,

794
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Brandy's a little shitty

795
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: for telling the secret and you're on the right history,

796
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Thank you and welcome to the right side. Thank you.

797
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: But that is how you framed it the way on

798
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I think that Denise there are holes

799
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: in her story, but like, oh, like, let this woman

800
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: live her life. She wants to lie. Let her fucking lie.

801
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: What's the big lee? And you bravely did that on

802
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: the same watch What Happens Live as Kyle Richards and

803
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Teddy Mellingham. I didn't get to see, Oh girl, Kyle

804
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: was not having you. She literally it cut back to

805
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Kyler Richards and she rolled her eyes and shook her

806
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: head a little bit, like, oh my gosh, that's so

807
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: sip for you. I love it. I mean, I stand

808
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: by Denise. I think you should like she's has a

809
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: custody battle. I think that there are more important things,

810
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: um that get I just Yolanda Foster said this. She said,

811
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: we can't go over dead bodies on the way to

812
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: making a good show, and there are real ramifications. Yeah,

813
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: are we watching Potomac? Yes, oh my god, it has

814
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: been fired. Yes, it's excellent. Excellent. Candice versus Moniquehere do

815
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: you stand Candice? Candice is? Candice is? I appreciate Candice,

816
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: but I feel like it seems like what maybe Candice

817
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: is the Denise in the situation where all the other

818
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: wives were like piling on her. Maybe potentially, but I

819
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: feel like Monique just wants some friendship, restitution or something

820
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: like something. She feels like something is out to her.

821
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: I like Wendy a lot. I like Wendy yeah, Um,

822
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: I asked just to be on the Pop Show. I

823
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: alms booked her. I almost booked her on Pop Show.

824
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: But this is like a year ago before she like

825
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: before she unraveled, like her first season where she was

826
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: like extra but not doing too much. Um. And she

827
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: directed me to her manager, Chris, who I believe is

828
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: her husband. Was she was she gonna be a New

829
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: York and she was she gonna be in the area,

830
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: and so I was gonna I was trying to get

831
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: her an Ashley Darby to perform at Pop Show together.

832
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: That would never have happened in a million years. Too

833
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: much drama if it had happened. But yeah, that was

834
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: I was trying. I was probably asked him to think

835
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: of it too. My opinion is I feel like I

836
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: actually like them both as reality cast members. Like I

837
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: really enjoy Candice, I mean famously. I I gave her

838
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: a beverage that was one of the funniest things I've

839
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. Um. But it's kind

840
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: of my thing with Candice is it seems like she

841
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: wants to do Real Housewives of Potomac on her own time.

842
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Like she's pretty down in the Confessionals she's down when

843
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: it's like certain times, and then all of a sudden

844
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: at the baby shower last night, she was all right,

845
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Speaker 1: just and we're not going to do this at the

846
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: baby shower. It's like, well, girl, we don't have to

847
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: do quote unquote this anywhere. You're the one who always

848
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: pushed it to the next level. You want to have

849
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: a calm conversation because we're at a baby shower, Let's

850
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: do that. But I mean, it was a lot for

851
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Ashley to even invite her there and then for her

852
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: to act as scene and storm out so that Ashley

853
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: has to leave her own not baby shower, baby party

854
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: and see you later. M hm. I I mean, I

855
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: I literally couldn't believe when they showed that. When they

856
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: played the audio after the video cut out, that made

857
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: me feel like and then, you know, the show was

858
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: very consciously taking Candice aside. Yes, but what do you

859
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: what's your takeaway? Is it just that Monique is fake

860
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: as hell? I don't think that Monique is fake. I

861
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: just think that Monique doesn't think that the Monique is

862
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: is pressed about Candice having Sharisse at the party, the

863
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: cash Bar party, which let's just say that was really

864
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: bad on the on the first episode. But she is

865
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: trying to buy a house, so whatever, I let her

866
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: say every money but cash bar on a year anniversary.

867
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: You just had everyone at your wedding, everyone but you gifts,

868
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: and not even a year later, you're gonna have a

869
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: cash bar, you cover the drinks. You're a cast member

870
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: on a huge reality show. But anyway, Um, I think

871
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: that they're not on the same page about just how

872
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: much of a betrayal it was to have Sharis at

873
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: that party, and I feel like they just kind of

874
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: want to fight about it. Yeah, I really think so too.

875
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: I think so. I think chers is she's the She's

876
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: she's the hot sauce in the dish that is Potomac,

877
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: the crab of Potomac. Yeah, that's beautiful. So where do

878
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: you stand stand on I'm Monique is gorgeous, beautiful, They're

879
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: both gorgeous. She's going to be on the Grinder podcast

880
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: this week, the rear View. Really, yes, she's on tomorrow.

881
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: That's not with Forever Dog, right it is. Yeah, she's

882
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Monique is gorgeous. So I so it's hard for me

883
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: to say anything bad about her because her kids are beautiful,

884
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: she seems like she has a great marriage. So so,

885
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: but creeper bird, I'm team I'm team wand Dixon. He

886
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: seems like he's got together. He's so hot, don't we all,

887
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm famously Ladies. What do you think? No, not Matt,

888
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: not matt, um um ladies. What do we think about

889
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Gisele getting back with her husband and the way that

890
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: her kids feel a certain way about it recipe for

891
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: disaster and the kids are so bummed out. They do

892
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: not want this to happen. I mean, he had he

893
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: had children outside of their marriage. That's not very that's nice.

894
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: And she was just about to pick her life back

895
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: up with the new house and stuff, and then I think,

896
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: I think Gisele when when you take the when you

897
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: take the man out of it, like she she's I

898
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: think she's one of the best because her first episode

899
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: of the season going Okay, we can talk, but you're

900
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna need to stop talking. Iconic line, iconic line, Okay

901
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: you and I can talk, but you have to stop talking.

902
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: Is you shut your mouth when you're talking? It's it's iconic.

903
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Where it on the street is I'm still the word

904
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: on the street? That was like such a bad remix wait,

905
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: can we talk about how she's the best to the

906
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: most attractive, worst stressed person in America, one of the

907
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: most beautiful, hideously dressed people. Lots of fuchia, lots of

908
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: like liber print rhinestones. I'm just it's troubling. I don't

909
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: know who not to. I don't want to insult anybody's work,

910
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: but we need to upgrade shes got like this disgusting.

911
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like a marshal's section. Like

912
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: it's just like like different Tuchman picked from like a

913
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: service that collects from other silleries. Yes, yes, it's like colorful,

914
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: but they're bad colors, you know what I mean. Like

915
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: she's got like attackie taste. She really I the most.

916
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous and beautiful style. Oh the silver

917
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: chairs is just like, I mean, my favorite. I think

918
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: the person who I'm loving the most of this season

919
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: is the Grand dam herself is Ms. Karen Hugo. She

920
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: is number one. I loved it the whole time. She

921
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm trying to focus on my fish.

922
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: This Chilean sea bass is very good, and then they

923
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: capped it off at the end of the episode. Is

924
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: I want more food? Amazing? Also, Rihanna loves Karen, so

925
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: we're we're all she loves Karen, momented on her Instagram live.

926
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: So clearly she is the queen has tastes. Yea queen

927
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: has taste. Um, we should ask the Way the question.

928
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: You have to ask you the question. Okay, see, we're

929
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna ask you the question we asked all of our guests,

930
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: which is, what is the culture that made you say?

931
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: Culture is for me? This is formative culture, um, that

932
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: moved your life into a cultural direction. It could be

933
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: a movie, a book, a play show. Clueless definitive text

934
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: of ze Way's life, but then also a decade later

935
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: Real Housewives. Yeah yeah, now talk about Clueless first. What

936
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: was it about you describe the texture of your feelings

937
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: around the film. Well, I think Stacy dash was one

938
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: of just like the first I mean, you know, obviously

939
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: her her personal polity aside, was one of the black

940
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: women that I saw that was absolutely glamorous on screen

941
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: on that film. And I just thought Dionne was like

942
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: the baddest thing walking, the coolest girl in high school.

943
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: And so a lot of my personality is based on

944
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: that fictional character. I think the clothes that I wear

945
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: are definitely pulled from clueless, Like my entire vibe is

946
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: like Beverly Hills teenager. M Hm, that makes a lot

947
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: of sense. You said that Stacy would be one of

948
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: your dream guests on the show, right, I would like

949
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: to interview Stacy. I don't know. I would like to

950
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: interview Stacy. I would I'd be interested in that. Yeah,

951
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I think she would do it. I think she would

952
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: do it too. But I think we'd say that again.

953
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: I think we'd say that for the television ship proper.

954
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: Why do we have who list like moment? Like, I

955
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: think it would be meeting up friends. The thing is

956
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: about Stacy Dashes while she is so incredible and clueless,

957
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: and she really is, Like some of the hard line

958
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: readings are I mean, really underrated. Like I feel like,

959
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: no everyone talks about Britney Murphy's line readings and Alicia

960
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Silverson's performance, but no one really talks about how fucking

961
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: incredible Stacy Dashes Like I feel like I feel like

962
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: the line well there goes to your social life gets credit,

963
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: but she doesn't get credit, and she doesn't get credit

964
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: for share she is toe up our stock would plummet

965
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: like that's so good. But um, I I still think

966
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: for someone who's a funny performer, I wonder about her

967
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: sense of humor. Oh what do you mean? I feel

968
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: don't you feel like to go on your show, you

969
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: have to have some sort of sense of humor, Like

970
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to have to piss taken

971
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: out of you, whereas like, like, I don't know, it

972
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: depends I saw her do Like I think Hans just

973
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: mentioned this silly Eric Andrea lots that episode again like

974
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: two days ago, because I love the Eric andre Show,

975
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: and she she she was really funny because she was

976
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 1: there were rats on the floor and they were biting

977
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: at her heels, so she was just she acted naturally.

978
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: I think that guest or best Instagram live guests are

979
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: either people who are comedic, like George si Vers or

980
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp, or like Dana Honly like people like that

981
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: in that field or Patty Harrison, or they're like super straight.

982
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm just here, like Alissa Milano is playing straight. Um

983
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: Holloway was straight. I believe Alison Woman was straight. So

984
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the guests because I tweaked

985
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: my questions too. If the person is pure of heart

986
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: or if they are rotten to the soul like a comedian, right,

987
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: like a comedian. But then so you're saying that there

988
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: is like there is like a short list of guests

989
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: you would want to say for the show, and that

990
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: includes Stacy dash because I agree with you that you

991
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: would want certain there are certain guests that are perfect

992
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: for the Instagram show but not for the eventual TV

993
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: show and not smart. Yeah, I think so, because Stacy

994
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: is a production like the fan fit around her is

995
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: what I'm attracted to. Right, Is she a Trump supporter

996
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: or is she a Republican? I don't know. I think

997
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: she was just an out of you know, working actress,

998
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: um looking. You know, you don't get paid for those

999
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: like you don't get paid for those Fox News appearances.

1000
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: Though she was getting paid. She was a question do

1001
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: get paid? I think I think that. I think there

1002
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: is some money in that. I think it was a

1003
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: job for her. I love to ask her and be like,

1004
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: so seriously, what's the deal, But I have no clue. Well, um,

1005
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: So then you move forward in time to the Real Housewives.

1006
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: What was your intro and talk about your favorite franchises

1007
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: and moments. My introduction was Beverly Hills, which was just darkness.

1008
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: It was. It was the limost episode where she's like

1009
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: you still my gosh, damn house. And I have seen

1010
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: anything so perturbed on screen before, and it felt so

1011
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: real because it's like, even if you're feeding them lines

1012
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: as producer like that hatred is something you can never

1013
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: write or they're the best places in the world. Um.

1014
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: So I watched that and I was like, wow, rage,

1015
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: I feel that, And so that was my entrance. And

1016
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: then Beverly Hills. Obviously with Clueless, I was just attracted

1017
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: to she she she she like how glamorous it was,

1018
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: the diamonds and rose of Lisa vander pump Um, the

1019
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Camille Grammar of it all, and Kelsey Grammar being on

1020
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: it for like four minutes being like I hate you,

1021
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm divorcing you with and leaving all of that. I

1022
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: found to be really quite intriguing. Now, how do you

1023
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: feel about the way it's developed over time since you've

1024
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: been watching it from the beginning. So we sort of

1025
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: had that like seed of real because I do agree

1026
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills sort of used to be about the cracks

1027
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: in the China if you will, like how how people

1028
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: UM try to keep their very very very um actually

1029
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: very fragile but high society lives together and what can

1030
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: happen when that the underbelly is revealed? So how do

1031
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: you feel about UM the Lisa Arena of it all?

1032
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: And it's sort of being about like less, let's keep

1033
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: it all under the rug and watch it shatter, and

1034
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: let's get it all out there and own it now.

1035
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: But we're not owning everything inherent because if we pick

1036
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: and choose what to own, that is not ownership. That

1037
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: is let's producing UM. So I don't like to see

1038
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: the seams. I like to see the seams of John

1039
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: the producer, telling Denise, I think you're making mistake. Go

1040
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: back talk to the girls. I like that. I like

1041
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: the production of it all. I'd love to see the

1042
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: production schedules and people being like I don't want to

1043
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: shoot with X y Z, like let's see that realnus

1044
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. I don't love the like maneuvering of individual

1045
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: cast members being like, you tell your secrets because we

1046
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: know they exist. Because what we'll find is that a

1047
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: lot of because Lisa rana Is is very guarded on

1048
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: that show, there's a lot we don't know. We didn't

1049
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: know that, um, Harry had a son until yesterday's episode.

1050
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: But she's been on the show for five seasons. Um,

1051
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: that's just a testament. So so I like, if we're

1052
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: gonna be real, let's be fucking real. But I don't

1053
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: think that honesty. I don't know. I just don't. I

1054
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: just don't entirely by that. I think it's really pointed

1055
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: and calculated, but it's it's an honesty that feels very idealistic.

1056
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, I'm not even someone who watches

1057
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: the show, but all like the all the big moments

1058
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: of that show post Ranna have been like lie Arena

1059
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: at dinner, being like did you guys do cocaine? Like

1060
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: it's like all these things where like she's confronting people,

1061
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: but it's like, how destructive is that? Actually? It's not

1062
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: fully restorative, is it? Yeah? Well, I would love to

1063
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: see what would be a great way to turn that

1064
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: is to be like, Okay, have you done coke in

1065
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: your bathroom? Dereek Comsley and then let's watch to read

1066
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: spiral about the fact that the show is coming out

1067
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: in six months and she's worried, Let's watch them react

1068
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: to like the Twitter, Let's get a camera on them

1069
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: when the show is being is on television and seeing

1070
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: them like spiral, like let's go to that real nous.

1071
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: If we're going to be that honest, let's unveil it entirely.

1072
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: But that's just my taste as an undescripted connoisaur. One day,

1073
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: I think I'll do undscripted television, but only as like

1074
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: a producer like Pa and be in it. I think

1075
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to watch the sort of and there

1076
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: was a piece about Lisa, and I believe it was

1077
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: Vulture that did it, but it was like about how

1078
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: she is like the prototypical castmate as producer in a

1079
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: way that's like sort of interesting now in this season

1080
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: when sort of the two worlds, the world that appears

1081
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: on screen and the world that appears behind the cameras

1082
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: um are sort of all falling away, And now there's

1083
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: rumors that Lisa Rinna's personal life might be explored next

1084
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: season because there's rumors about the Harry Hamlin of it all,

1085
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: and maybe they're living in two different homes. And never

1086
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: forget the way that she reacted to Kim Richards suggesting

1087
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: something about Harry at that dinner when she slammed the

1088
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: glass down and said, don't ever talk about my husband

1089
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: and Kyle Richards ran out of the room when Kim

1090
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: Richards called Eileen Davidson a beast best, how dare you beast?

1091
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: I love to see Lisa in a moment, um, don't

1092
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: you ever go after my husband? We'll see a Lisa

1093
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: in a moment what do you want out? And she's

1094
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: like getting up at the table. It was really a beautiful,

1095
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: like a beautifully directed scene history. So I think for

1096
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: that Lisa Wren has definitely contributed to a lot of chaos.

1097
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: I just wonder if she's going to be paying for that. Yes,

1098
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: coming karmically, yes, But but the way you seem to

1099
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: be talking about this thing where you want to see

1100
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: production and the post production aspect of these shows a

1101
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: little bit more um to the four and I feel

1102
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: like maybe it's fun to even just have like a

1103
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: lot of the season be the reunion episodes. Would potentially

1104
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: love that. I love the reunions. I'm like women's slide

1105
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: me up, like this is a this is great, this

1106
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: is entertaining, um. So I would love I would love

1107
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: to see the seams of just like who's dressing room

1108
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: is bigger than who's, Like, let's do it, let's do it.

1109
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: Apparently we're in for some crazy reunions of Beverly Hills

1110
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: in New York because some women are not even talking

1111
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: to each other. I mean, Lisa Rena was really upset

1112
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: about the Beverly Hills reunion and apparently the New York

1113
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: reunion is like Ramona's come up and I can't wait

1114
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: for Leah. I love Leah. I can't wait for her

1115
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: to drag Ramona. I want Ramona. I want Ramona destroyed.

1116
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah, she I want you to be

1117
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: a classist. Like it's like you're You're like, who the

1118
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: fund do you think you are? Yeah? So, what what

1119
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on New York? Um? I'm loving New York.

1120
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: Um it is it makes me never want to drink again,

1121
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: That's true. New York keeps me sober, truly, Like's Morgan

1122
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: like throws it back. I'm concerned. Yeah, it's tough and

1123
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: it's about it. That's the theme for New York. I

1124
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: feel that's like the underlying theme. I mean, I am

1125
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I saying something that we all already know that we've

1126
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: that we've known go on. But it's like the Leah,

1127
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: the Leah, the Luan and Mastonia and even the Ramona.

1128
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: Let's I mean all of them. It's like they all

1129
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: have this problem with drinking and with dipping back and

1130
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: with falling off the wagon, and it's like this is really, really,

1131
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: really fucking dark, and we're arguably Dorinda is the worst. Yeah,

1132
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: well you like Direnda. I remember y'all speaking positively about

1133
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Dirinda back we did. She's mean, she's it's it's tough,

1134
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: it's dark new Dorinda in your life. I used to

1135
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: say I was a little bit of a Dorenda back

1136
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: when when she drank it got a little dark, and

1137
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: then like now, I don't identify with Drinda at all. Honestly,

1138
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: I honestly think that Dorinda needs like to really take

1139
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: a break and like figure out what's going on. And

1140
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is cool to say, but

1141
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: like my mother and this is I actually watched Real

1142
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: Housewives this week with my mother and she's never seen

1143
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: it at all. And I watched Beverly Hills and New

1144
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: York with her, and we're going to watch Potomac tomorrow.

1145
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: But um, I've already seen it, but I watched it

1146
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: again with my mother. But my mother was like, well,

1147
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: in New York, seems like they have a lot more

1148
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: fun together, and I think they might be onto something

1149
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: about the menopause. Like when Sonja and Ramona were talking

1150
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: about how possibly Dorinda maybe going through menopause and they

1151
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up with her, and my mother

1152
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: literally said, that's what I was just gonna say, so

1153
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: that could be. Like I hadn't even thought of that,

1154
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: because why would I think of that? But my mother,

1155
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: as a woman that age, was like, yeah, that's clearly

1156
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: to me. What's going on? Oh wow, wow, Hey I

1157
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: have something to look forward to. Hey, getting to pop

1158
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: off after wondering, I can't wait. I look forward to

1159
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: the day. Who who do you identify with on Roney?

1160
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: Aliah You're a Leiah. You're very much Aliah. I I

1161
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: say it like it is, And if you don't like me,

1162
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: it's like I elevate this ship, like then that's your

1163
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: taste level. Yeah, you're new, you're exciting, you're fresh, and

1164
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: you you have the back. I'm I'm a Carol, your Carol. Well,

1165
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: I I was team Carroll. I think Carol was right

1166
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: and then we were both Team Carroll. Yeah, we're about

1167
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: Team Carroll obviously and want to get into a five. Well.

1168
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: I actually think that's why Bethany ended up leaving was

1169
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: a result of the fallout from that storyline, which was

1170
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people calling out the fact that they

1171
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: could see Bethany working to make that fight work, because

1172
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: she was looking really ugly in that, like when she

1173
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: said to Early you don't have a career like that

1174
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: was really messy. And I think that while Bethany, while

1175
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: Bethany is like um, someone that the fan base is

1176
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: never going to be ready to let go of, and

1177
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: she would have to up to leave, I think she

1178
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: sensed a turn in the way that she knows how

1179
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: to play the game on the show and the way

1180
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: it's received now, and I think ultimately like that, combined

1181
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: with the fact that her personal life is just so fraught,

1182
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: she was done. She had to walk away. It's better

1183
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: to walk out on top. That's gonna be my catchphrase

1184
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: when I do a Housewives of Brooklyn. Alright, I'm leaving

1185
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: in six episodes. You would do six and that would

1186
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: be and that would be like all you would get

1187
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: out of it for your own personal because it's like

1188
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: you're if you're on more than a season, they're gonna

1189
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: come for your life. I've demons. I also do think

1190
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: that Bethany made one final genius move in her tenure

1191
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: at Real High School of New York, which was discover

1192
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: ring Leah. And now she can say the show is

1193
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: still only good because of me, you know what I mean?

1194
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Like she she she put that in there at the

1195
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: last second. She was like, remember me, bitch, here's a

1196
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: smaller version of me, a younger version of me, who

1197
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: will the audience will become obsessed with. And I do

1198
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: think Leah has the potential to become the next Bethany.

1199
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: Leah is absolutely taking the throne. And that's why Ramona shook. Yeah,

1200
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. And Ramona was always about pleasing Bethany.

1201
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: It was always about seeking some sort of validation from Bethany.

1202
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: And it was never hers to lose. It was like

1203
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's August, it was never Ramotus to lose the throne.

1204
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: W thank you. I think it's time to move on.

1205
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: But this reminds me of and I don't think so, honey,

1206
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: um sort of moment in history which is when ze

1207
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Way pulled Sasha and Aliah Obama out of the troll

1208
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: Bowl and refused to play the game. I don't think so, honey,

1209
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: she said, I don't think so, honey. I'm not doing

1210
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: this and screamed into the mic for nearly a whole minute,

1211
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: and we had to just accept that the Way was

1212
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: not playing ball with I don't think so, honey, Sasha

1213
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: Emilia revolutionary what we did it? So I was like,

1214
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, that's a good way

1215
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: to go out. No, oh, my God's way when we

1216
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: do it again. No, I mean that was that was

1217
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: a historic moment and an archaic revolutionary. You put us

1218
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: in our place. We had no right to We had

1219
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: no right to ask you to do that. It was

1220
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: totally on brand. Fiew. Well we did, and the troll

1221
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: ball asked you to do that. Yeah, I think I

1222
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: picked one from the troull ball and I didn't know

1223
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: who it was. It was like a theater person. And

1224
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: then I picked black woman at all costs. Yes, I

1225
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: get it, and it was very right of you to

1226
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: say fuck no to the system. Um, and who knows,

1227
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see it again. But Bowen, what is I

1228
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, I don't think so honey. Is

1229
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: our segment where we take one minute to rail against

1230
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: something in the culture while saying the words I don't think,

1231
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: so honey. Um, so Matt, I think you have something

1232
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: I do. I just want to say it before I

1233
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: do it. I do not think so honey, Bill Clinton,

1234
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think we should be hanging on to

1235
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. And I really think we need to fucking

1236
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: move on as a country. And I'm sure you agree

1237
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: with the way. I would love to interview Bill. I

1238
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: think you would be an iconic guest. And that's her

1239
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: way of saying that she agrees with me. But I

1240
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: do I did prepare another one. Okay, wonderful. This is

1241
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey, and his time

1242
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so honey. Ring Tones being

1243
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: able to be heard, sounds being on on your phone,

1244
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, ring tones not on bop

1245
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: in the bunch, it's all dang. It sucks you think

1246
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: of hell when a ring tone plays, because ring tones

1247
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: are commonly I don't think so honey. Alarm clocks, which

1248
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: are and wake you up. I don't think so honey,

1249
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: ring tones when they're on. I'm being around my parents

1250
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: a lot and they have the sounds on all the time,

1251
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dear God, everyone is right next to you.

1252
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you could just turn it on silent or vibrate.

1253
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: These things vibrates so loud. Anyway, I don't think so

1254
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: many that we need them to be on. They are

1255
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: so annoying. There's not one cool ring tone sound. Honestly,

1256
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: how about this, Turn your ring tone on and all

1257
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden whop plays by Megan the Stallion and

1258
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: Cardi b Just kidding, because then I'd be irritated with

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Speaker 1: because it's a ring tone. I don't ring tones, only

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Speaker 1: silent tones, a k A. Nothing. I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 1: And that's one minute. So you're saying anything that's a

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: ring tone is automatically like invalid. It's it's you can't

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01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: phone sounds are out, they're canceled, they're done. Stop And

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when you get a text and it

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: goes shut up, it is so annoying. And now that

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01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: you know you're texting with someone, guess what you can do?

1267
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: Turn your ring tone sound off. Like now you know

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01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: that you're in the middle of a conversation you're engaging

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01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: with someone. Just do that. I don't need to hear

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01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: the ring of ling a ling a linga. Yeah, yeah,

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: you feel this way. I feel this way. I really do.

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add. I'm just supporting you. Thank

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01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: you as well, and with that support, gonna We're gonna move.

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Speaker 1: Did you still call yourself an iconic guest? Ring Tones? Oh,

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: would be an iconic guest. I would love to Tones

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Speaker 1: to the Instagram. I would love to bring myself to

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: the Instagram live show like buy if I brought myself

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01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: to like my people, I mean, who would be who

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01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: would be the Will cheer Jada in that situation? Like

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: it would be it would be like your parents or

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: something like like who would that be? I don't know,

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01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: maybe like like an ex boyfriend who has seen me

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: at my worst? Yeah, oh that's fine, could bring you

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01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: to the Red Table. Yeah? Do you watch The Red Table? Yeah?

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01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: I watch I watched the like the hits, like the

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: Jordan's one. Yeah, I watched that one. It's like, so

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: you saw Will and Jada when they brought themselves to

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: the Red Table. Of course, it was really dramatic and intense.

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: I felt like I was a boy year like I

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think I should it so intimate. That's what

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: I want to see in real housewibs, Well, what was like?

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: I think Vulture wrote about how like that was very

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: unusual in terms of celebrity marriage culture, where it's like

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: you never really get to see a conversation like this,

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: like like like the one that Jada and Well had

1296
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: because we're so we're so sort of trained in this

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: traditional media sense that like marriages go through a hardship

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: in this model. But I mean that was, like, I

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: thought that was pretty huge, and that was all anyone

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: talked about that day. It was iconic. It was iconic.

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: I I, when I get a divorce, you better believe

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to milk that on my daytime talk show. Honey,

1303
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: m Yeah, it's gonna be a topic of your own

1304
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: entanglements will be unentangled. Um okay, So, Bowe Yang, are

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: you ready with your I don't think so, honey, I'm ready.

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01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: Well that's good because this is Bowen Yang's I don't

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think

1308
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: so many people saying I can't believe in you. We

1309
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: have to save the postal service. It's like, get over

1310
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: your fucking like snarky ass like disbelief. Who cares. We

1311
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: are beyond disbelief at this point, Like every other dystopic

1312
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: thing has led us up to this point, that should

1313
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: come as no surprise. Absolute power, absolute corruption should come

1314
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: as no surprise. So yes, buy a sheet of stamps,

1315
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: but don't fucking like roll your eyes on ridiculous. The

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01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: circumstances are thank you're at unfortunately, so yes, there's no

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01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: need for like a snide comment on it. I don't.

1318
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: You don't have to editorialize your own responsibility, as it were,

1319
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: and it is an unfortunate responsibility to to help the

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: postal services funding. I mean, it sucks. It's unfortunate. You

1321
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: do not have to contribute to the conversation by saying,

1322
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: isn't this crazy? I'm so over this. No, you're not.

1323
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: You're you are pressed under the thumb of fascism. And

1324
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: that's one minute. Yeah we should um, thank you Boonen

1325
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: for bringing that up, because the United States postal services

1326
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: under attack. It's being dismantled as we speak, and Trump

1327
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: is gaslighting the country by tweeting save the post Office,

1328
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: and he will try to blame it on the Democrats

1329
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: is and entirely of his own making. And we have

1330
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: to like honestly support this and everywhere we can. And

1331
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: it's not just buying stamps and sending money directly, like

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: do do the most to say the least. I'm staying,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: there's just and this is not like a weird dumb

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: in fighty thing. It's like I'm saying, there's just like

1335
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: weird sort of uh notion around people being like, wow,

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01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: can you believe this? This is the world we're in.

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01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it is, unfortunately, but like you don't

1338
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: have to remark on it. It's wompwomp culture, and it's

1339
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: it's so annoying. It's wompwomp. Can you believe this culture?

1340
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, believe we're we've been believing it. Believe it. Yeah,

1341
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: It's like what what could have ever led to this

1342
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: moment in time? It's like everything have you read that? Everything?

1343
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: The book? Like, what are you talking about this? There

1344
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: are no surprises here? Yeah, exactly exactly way this is

1345
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: is this is going to be you'd be an iconic

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: guest this, this would be an iconic I don't think so, honey,

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: This is the uways. I don't think so, honey. Hard

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01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: time starts now, Okay, I don't think so honey. Unpaid

1349
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: black labor. You guys got me on here writing joke.

1350
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: You what in the world am I getting paid from? Honey?

1351
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: Are you cutting it? Because I want I am a

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: black woman, I have forever, and I deserve to be

1353
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: made for my time, and I don't think so honey

1354
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: is asking me to do work. And this goes out

1355
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: to all the black ladies out there who are working

1356
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: for free. Don't do it, and Matt in your lives,

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much for the offer. But

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to pass this time. Every day

1359
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: I learned a lesson, so you don't have to. So

1360
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: this is really to submit to the fact that I

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: have to work for free right now and also frequently.

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01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: And so we'll stop because we have to unite together

1363
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: and unionize. Five seconds, Viva People, and that's all culture

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01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: number seventy seven. V Viva that people. Might be a

1365
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: good title of Viva people is a good title up

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: the way, I want you to name a number. Yeah,

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: I wonder know how much do you want for that?

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: Seven dollars? No, we can't spend seven grand for the

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: whole episode. High this I have to get z Jr. No, Matt,

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: that's Matt. I reject the notion that Matt thinks it's

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: too high. You think that seven thousand dollars is what

1372
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 1: Zo deserves for this podcast episode. I am not the

1373
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: person to praise Instagram and Twitter, but I do you

1374
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: think that I'm worth seven thousand dollars? We're going to

1375
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: figure this out. We're going to figure this well has

1376
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: that expensible income? So I actually don't. I actually do not.

1377
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: I am bone dry cash wise at the moment, and

1378
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: yet here he is offering up so I guess he

1379
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: thinks that I'm going to take this one on the him.

1380
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: It's it's no, no, no, no, Oh my god. Right, okay,

1381
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: this is what I was saying earlier. Grafting on a

1382
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: victim and narrative is so dangerous when you are not

1383
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: the victim. The question for both of you who aren't victims,

1384
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: what is a black woman worth everything? Everything? Check your

1385
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: v MO, check your gun, nothing, Oh my god. Working

1386
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: out is the way. We're so sorry that we had

1387
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: we had brought you onto the show under the pretenses

1388
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: of unpaid black labor. And we will. We are at

1389
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: the problem. We will make it. We will make we

1390
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: will do right by that. Ultimately, you actually played right

1391
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: into the trap because you give us an amazing I

1392
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, And thank you for everyone, everyone,

1393
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: everyone stops turn this off and not jumps amazing. I

1394
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, an amazing whole episode. Who is you?

1395
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: Damn thanks for having me. This is so far we

1396
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: love so great? Um is that when you but is

1397
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: that the quote the pull quote from the things, so,

1398
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: honey was black women don't say this was so fun?

1399
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: Things for the offer? Oh no, but that was when

1400
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: the that was when the offer goes out right you.

1401
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right. I did actually just repeat I

1402
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: did do that. That's the conditioning, that's the tragedy. Eve internalized,

1403
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: Eve internalized dead. We all have to examine this, right.

1404
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: We're are part of the problem. I am part of

1405
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: the problem every day. Um well, listen, you're an absolute

1406
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: fool if you're not following at z way and at

1407
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: a f Really, there's what was taken. I am currently

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: in a war with the woman who has z A

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: z way on Instagram. Um, I she has blocked me

1410
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: on my main and I every day listening. Please support

1411
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: a Nigerian woman. Please do it for the community, do

1412
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: it for culture. You're you're you know you are part

1413
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: of the solution. You could be the John F. Kennedy

1414
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: to my Martin Luther King. Think about it, Think about it.

1415
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: I do want to really quickly mention um that this

1416
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: is this is a SoundBite that's really like bounced around

1417
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: in my brain for years now. One of the first

1418
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: beated episodes of this was with Michael Antonucci, who we love,

1419
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 1: and at one point you talked to him about like

1420
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: dating black women, and then no, no, no, you talked

1421
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: to him about like how you make him feel, and

1422
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: then he just stammers a bit and then you go, what,

1423
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: don't be intimidated by a strong black woe. The way

1424
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: you said it is so so so perfect, It's so good,

1425
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: and like that was the moment that was before I

1426
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: met you, That was at the moment before I came

1427
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: into the above averages offices. I think, and I's like,

1428
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: who is this person? And like she's so we're happy

1429
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 1: to know you, and we celebrate you, and we direct

1430
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: everyone too at zy F because that battle is not

1431
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: yet one. But don't be surprised. Over the coming days,

1432
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's at z Way, but for

1433
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: now it's at DyF Thursday nights is bated. It's at

1434
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern Standard Time because she's a Brooklyn girl.

1435
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: So tune the hell in for all of those amazing

1436
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: episodes and follow everything. That's the way does what do

1437
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: you say? Um? And um? We do end every episode

1438
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: with a song, and I feel it's only right. Two

1439
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 1: allows the way to do this song and you know

1440
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: what song we're talking about? Shop? Do I sing it? Okay,

1441
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: sing it? Do it? Every episode in the song. I

1442
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: listened to the episodes, but not all the way through.

1443
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 1: They're like a yes there, bye bye