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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nucoleman. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your host into

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Speaker 1: Chasing Battery. Welcome to the Bear Hunting Magazine Podcast. We

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Speaker 1: are continuing on our Montana tour. This is this is

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Speaker 1: the Montana tour. But Kobe and I are still on

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Speaker 1: whiz he smoke? Is he in smoke? Yep? We're actually

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Speaker 1: Brian Strickland as our He's gonna he's gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: Archer Trade Association show. And I'm gonna give it a

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Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of introduce Brian Strickland to those who

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Speaker 1: is early. Just like you said, you might be hunting

427
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: in snow, but by that time, especially the boers are

428
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: gonna be out there, are gonna be hitting baits, they

429
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: are gonna be moving. And we just come back from

430
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: Montana hunting the same time as you, further south than you,

431
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: further west than you. But but they, I mean, we

432
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: were seeing bearrass. But it's the same thing there in

433
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: this transition of going from dinning to feeding heavily and

434
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: then moving into the rut. So what you're what you're

435
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: hunting when you're hunting that early season, is you're hunting

436
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: these boars on feeding pattern. I mean basically the bear

437
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: rut you're gonna start seeing bear rut activity around the

438
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: twenty may take all the way through June and into

439
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: the July, but nobody's hunting bears in July. Um. So

440
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of an early season hunt is that

441
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: if you do have a big boar coming into a bait,

442
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: if you do have a big board coming into a meadow,

443
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna go very far where in the rut.

444
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: He could go wherever. And also at the early in

445
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: the year, food sources are tend to be a little

446
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: more limited than that, especially out west where natural food.

447
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: Natural food is limited, I mean greenups kind of just

448
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: starting and uh, and so there's limited you know, exposure

449
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: to for grass to grow on those sides. They've got

450
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: they've come out of the den, and they're about to

451
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: go into the rut, right and they've they've got they've

452
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: got a pound the feeding. They're hungry. Yeah, And and

453
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: same thing up there. I mean, once a bear finds

454
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: the bait, which I think Todd has thirty plus baits

455
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: set up, and they're full. I mean he's got four

456
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: or five barrels on each bait. Um and they're just

457
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: getting pounded because once the bears find them, Um, you'll

458
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: get a board that will just camp out on that bait,

459
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: and get two or three that will just camp out

460
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: on it, and uh and they just feed on it

461
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: because that's really up there. It's all they have right now.

462
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: They don't have any grasses to feed on and no

463
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: green up at all. There's no green up at all

464
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just starting to see a little bit

465
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: on the edge of the roads. I mean, as I

466
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: was leaving you, I would see more and more white

467
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: tails feeding on the edge of the roads where I

468
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: didn't see that the first couple of days. Um, so

469
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: just in those few days it started to green up.

470
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: But uh so food's uh, you know, an important resource

471
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: and it's limited that time of year, so they really

472
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: hit the baits pretty hard. So that's kind of the

473
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: benefits of hunting that early season like I did. You

474
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: don't see as many bears because potentially you have you know,

475
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: new mothers with young cubs that are kind of hide out.

476
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: They're not coming around of the bates. Um, and the

477
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: bears maybe a little bit more spread out now. Um,

478
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: they're just not as active to it, you know. By

479
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: later in May and into June. I mean, bears would

480
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: be like a hundred percent active this time of year.

481
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: If it gets if a cold snap comes, a bear

482
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: might go back to his den, or maybe not even

483
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: to his den, but he just lays up, might bet

484
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: up for twelve fourteen, fifteen, sixteen hours a day and

485
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: just feed for little sections. So it's it's like they're

486
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: just not as active. And I think that's what happened

487
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: on on that hunt. I was fortunate. I mean I

488
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: probably saw more bearrass than anyone And it was just

489
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: really the luck of the draw because I was even

490
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: hunting behind other people UM A couple of the stands

491
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: a hunting. Two of the other UM hunters had already hunted.

492
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Did they see a bear that you wanted to kill? No,

493
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: they didn't see any bears at all. But when I

494
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: go in there, I'd see three or four. So it

495
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: was just luck. I mean, it was just however, you know,

496
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: it just worked out that way. Um and uh so

497
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: overall it was a good hunt. I saw a lot

498
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: of bears, but it was a slow hunt that you know,

499
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: we didn't the first bear didn't get killed until the

500
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: second day, and then there was one killed the third

501
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: day and a wound, and then then mine and another

502
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: one on the last day. So so we went, you know,

503
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: really five for six and see and I think that's

504
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: a good hunt, really typical, that's really typical for that time.

505
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of Canadian bear outfitters tell

506
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: me that they prefer that first week. It's it's a

507
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: little bit risky. It is because it's possible you could

508
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: have gone up there and really got into like legit

509
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: snow unlikely, possible, And I could tell Todd was a

510
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: little worried, and there were still snow on the ground,

511
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: so I could tell Todd was worried, you know, because

512
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: the first day out, um, really no bears were seen

513
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: than a couple that I had seen, and so you know,

514
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: it was you know, outfitters they want they want to

515
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: make their clients happy. And Dodds just like anyone else,

516
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: he wants to do that. And uh, but you know,

517
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: as as the week progressed, Um, the weather still was

518
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: pretty lousy most most of the week and just kind

519
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: of colder weather. But you just stick with it and eventually,

520
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, something happened. That's what happened where we stayed

521
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: in these little cabins on a lake on Blue Lake.

522
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Um and uh so they're a little one two bedroom cabins. Comfortable, comfortable, ye,

523
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's good overall from a bear camp perspective.

524
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: It was a good camp. Food was really good. Um

525
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: and uh combinations were you know, bear camp accommodation as

526
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: far were you driving to the baits from where you were, uh,

527
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: where you were from ten to fifteen minutes and some

528
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: baits are spread out maybe forty five minutes away to

529
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: an hour. So so I mean he's a big area.

530
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: And uh and when you have thirty plus baits and

531
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: you're moving people around, what he would like to do is,

532
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, put all five hunters in the same general area,

533
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: just from a transportation standpoint, and he had two other

534
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: guy it's with him. So and then once if we

535
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: hunted that area one day, then we maybe move ten

536
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: fifteen miles and hunt another area and everybody was spread out.

537
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: There wasn't any issues of like that, um, just from

538
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: a transportation standpoint, and a good outfitter like Todd Doo

539
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: is gonna have his baits spread out so that the

540
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: same bears aren't. I mean, you know this is they're

541
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: definitely places where an outfitter could spread out bear baits

542
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: every half a mile down the road. And I mean

543
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: you're fooling yourself to think that it's not the same

544
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: bears hitting in. You get into these good outfitters, I mean,

545
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: like world class outfitters, you're not gonna find that they're

546
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: spreading they're spreading baits out. I think I think one

547
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: of the outfitters told me that he liked to have

548
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: three to five miles between baits, and I would say,

549
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: these were in that three mile range for sure, and

550
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: you could get you certainly could get bears that are

551
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: traveling that far, but unlikely. Yeah, there, and they would

552
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: even further than that, I mean he would get I

553
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: mean some of the rides on the A t V

554
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: would be thirty to forty five minutes in after you

555
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: parked the ch after you parked the truck, So it

556
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: was and there were some rough rides, um and uh

557
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: so yeah, every it was. It was a you know,

558
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I won't say because you're on an a t V,

559
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: it's on a wilderness type hunt, um, but there's still

560
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: an aspect of wildness to it just because it's remote.

561
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean there's you don't have cell service. Um, you're

562
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: out there and really in the middle of nowhere and

563
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: you're back in their miles. Yeah. Well I know that

564
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: area because Bernie Barringer's hunted up there a lot. Yeah,

565
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: Bernie's killed a five hundred pound bear there. He's killed multiple. Uh. Well,

566
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: he's for sure killed one big color face bear. I

567
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: don't think a wave five hundred, but you know, three

568
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: fifties he's killed I want to say several. I don't

569
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: know if that's accurate. He's killed a boot and crocket

570
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: bear there, maybe two, right, I mean, like, this is

571
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: an incredible area. Todd put him on a blonde bear

572
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: that it didn't work out two years ago, but they

573
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: had a blind Bernie was after specifically a blonde bear. Ye,

574
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of color phase up there. Um. I

575
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: didn't personally see any, but saw traill camera pictures of it.

576
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Um and other hunters and camp saw some color as well.

577
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: One one of them saw blonde as well as uh,

578
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, the chocolate browns. And and then one of

579
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: the hunters and camp made a bad shot on one

580
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: and didn't recover and it was a big brown as well.

581
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: And for for everybody that's listening that they may understand

582
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: the color phase world. And we talked about it pretty regularly,

583
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: but I think it's good to repeat. One of the

584
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: really unique features of Northern bears is the uh is

585
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: that they're different color phase blonde, cinnamon, black, and kind

586
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: of chosh chocolatey yeah. Um. And you can even get

587
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: some red color. Yeah, and that would be like a

588
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: cinnamon I would say, kind of reddish brown, brown, black

589
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: and blond and and uh. Different parts of Canada are

590
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna be known for colored bears, but really any the

591
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: eastern provinces pretty much don't have for the for all

592
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: practical purposes, don't have color phase bears from about Ontario

593
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: all the way to the east, um, and from you know,

594
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: there are color phase bears in Ontario, but from let's

595
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: just say western Ontario all the way west, you're going

596
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: to have color phase um. Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Alberta would probably

597
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: be the primary Canadian provinces that are gonna have the

598
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: most color phase bears. BC seems to have a lot

599
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: of black. Um. I don't know if there's a lot

600
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: of color, not as much, but they do have some color.

601
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: I missed one, so you know they're there. They're still there.

602
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: Times that's still yeah, there's one there, you know. And

603
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: color phase there's usually not over even in the highest

604
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: densities of color phase bears, really not over of the

605
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: population is gonna be color phase, even though people outfitters

606
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: will tell will say, you know that they killed fifty

607
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: color phase the last year. And some people can get

608
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: that confused and they go to an outfit and they

609
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: think they're gonna see half of the bears or color

610
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: phase half of them are black. Right, that's not the case,

611
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: because the outfitters not being dishonest either, just their harvest

612
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: was exactly. Those hunters are going up there to look

613
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: for a color phase bear. And if you can, if

614
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: you're a hunter that wants to do that, and you

615
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: can go to a place and hold out and have

616
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: a fifty chance of getting one, that's pretty good odds.

617
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: So I mean Western, you know, Western United States, I

618
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: think is where you get vast majority of your colors. Colorado,

619
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: there's Colorado, Utah, Idaho, you know. Yeah, I mean, it's

620
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: just why, I don't know. I'm sure there's some scientifict

621
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: scientific explanation for it. I don't know it, but it

622
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: has to do there's correlations but between the canopy cover

623
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: and rainfall. But basically where there's where there's openness, they

624
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: find a you know, open terrain, they find more color phase.

625
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: But adapting to their environment. Yeah, but that's not But

626
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: you look at Canada, which is like almost forest, and

627
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: you get color face. So it's it's not there's not

628
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: a reason. But I think that's important to talk about.

629
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: But so you you on this early season hunt. You're

630
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: using the triad bow, using the triad bo, using a

631
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: bear kodiak and what what did the publisher of Bear

632
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Hunting magazine tell you before you went on this trip?

633
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Don't shoot a small bear? Why did he tell you that?

634
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Because I have a tendency to shoot a small be. Hey,

635
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: Brian is six ft six, okay, Bright is six ft six.

636
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: He has got to have a big bear in front

637
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: of him for it to look big. Yeah, okay, I

638
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: just met him, but I really look up to him already.

639
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: There's our pun. I was like, man, kolbe, that are

640
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of just normal. We we can kill,

641
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: we can kills just average animals. And they didn't look okay,

642
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: they look okay, but no, it's not barely like a

643
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: griegly next to me. Yeah, just kidding, just kidd So,

644
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: so walk us, walk us through the week, and and

645
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: kind of what happened on the hunt. I mean, every

646
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: every day I saw bears except the fourth day and

647
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: it was just one of those. It rained, and it

648
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: was just a nasty day to hunt. But you just

649
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: stick with it, and uh, because you just never know.

650
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, bears will show up in the rain um,

651
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: and you just stick with it. And then you know

652
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: that every bait you sit at there has a potential

653
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: producing a bone and crocot bear um. And I haven't

654
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: done the numbers on this, but I'm gonna do some research,

655
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: but I would imagine, um, that's the Duck Mountains are

656
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: the top spot in Manitoba for producing buner bears, and

657
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: and that the pictures that I've seen just at the evidence,

658
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I know there's big bears, are big tracks, and so

659
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of waiting. And that's what I did.

660
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the first day it was hard for me

661
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm good with a hundred fifty pound bear.

662
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you could throw over your shoulder

663
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: and walk out in the joint exactly like a like

664
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: a coon, be like me throwing a coon over my shoulder.

665
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: But I really was wanting to hold out, um for

666
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a bigger bear this year because prior to this, the

667
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: biggest bear I had killed is probably a two d

668
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: fifty pound one in uh, Idaho, which is a really

669
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: really nice bear for Idaho, and it's a gray face

670
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: black bear and it was just a a good experience

671
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and really big bear. So but I really want to

672
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: hold out for something big, just because I haven't really

673
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: had an experience with big bears. But uh, now that

674
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: I have, I don't know if I'll shoot a hundred

675
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: pound on again. Um, unless I'm maybe someplace else I

676
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, but um, but overall it was

677
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: a good, good experience as far as sightings of bears.

678
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Even the smaller bears were still good quality bears. Um

679
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: when I say hundred and fifty to two hundred pounds

680
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: and uh, and a lot of boars. I mean you

681
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: could tell most of the bears you were seeing were boars.

682
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I did see one sow with the four cubs, with

683
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: four cubs, which you really don't see, and she was big.

684
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a sow at first, because

685
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: I was hunting, and I looked over to my right

686
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: and I saw some bears walking through the brush about

687
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: eighty yards away and they looked pretty small um, and

688
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they shot up a tree and

689
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: there I saw three of them shoot up a tree,

690
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: and uh, so I knew there was a sow around,

691
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 1: but I just thought maybe she shot him up because

692
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: there was a boar around. And all of a sudden,

693
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I looked up over towards the bait and there was

694
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: a bear um walking in. It would looked like a

695
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: really big bear and it was a big bear um

696
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: and and I was gonna shoot shoot him because it

697
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: was getting down to the fourth afternoon of the hunt,

698
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: and it was a good bear, I um, But I thought,

699
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wait to see what happens. And sure enough,

700
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: the four cubs came out about two minutes later, and

701
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: it was that was mama and uh and it was

702
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a big bigs A good lesson right there to just

703
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: and usually you have that time you do you got

704
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: you got time to make sure that it's a that

705
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: that it's name. And those couples to survive. They were

706
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: over a year old, but still in my in Manitoba,

707
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: you can't shoot family groups. So um. But uh, but

708
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: that was a good experience to just seeing that you

709
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: have a sallence four cubs. I mean you just really

710
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: don't see that very often at all. Um. But uh

711
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: as far as the hunt that the afternoon that I

712
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: that I killed the big bear, Um, you want to

713
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: go into that. Absolutely that was I mean, that was

714
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: one of those spots. I think it was called Elmer.

715
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, they all have little nicknames for all these baits.

716
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where the nicknames derived from, but I'm

717
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: sure it was some um interesting experience. The guy from

718
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: Arkansas that probably killed the world record there very well

719
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: could have. Um he's in the Boone and Crocket record books,

720
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: the last named. So but uh, you know I had

721
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: one bear come in as soon as I got there,

722
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: around four thirty. And it was a smaller you could

723
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: tell it was a board, just a smaller boar, and

724
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: um he fed around where you were you thinking, I

725
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: want to shoot that bear. Even the last day, you're

726
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: just gonna go home without a bear. I was gonna

727
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: go home without body. I mean if a if a

728
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: decent bear came in, then I would have shot when

729
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I say decent up there something in the two hundred

730
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: pound range, because up to this point there had been

731
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: two bears killed, and both of them are right at

732
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: that two hundred pound range, which is you know, there

733
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: were two fifty time they spring bear. That's a nice bear.

734
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: And they had big heads on both of them were

735
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: over nineteen inches. Yeah, that's a whopper, it is. Yeah.

736
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: And then the one there was a lady in camp

737
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: who she killed one the same day I did hers

738
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: as a eight teen inches. Um. So like all I've had,

739
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: just the genetics up there produced the big heads. Is

740
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: uh is what's there? But uh? Anyway, younger bear came in.

741
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: He fed around for about ten minutes or so, then

742
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: he started looking past the bait and and just all

743
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: of a sudden just ran off. Um. So I knew

744
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: there was another bear out there, And sure enough I

745
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: saw another one walking through the trees, a little bit bigger.

746
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't real big, um, and I probably wouldn't have

747
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: shot it. I wouldn't have shot him, um, but it

748
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: was just he was just walking, just wasn't really interested

749
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: in the bait. He was just kind of walking by.

750
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: And and then about an hour past I just happened

751
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: to sitting there and was really reading a book, and

752
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I just book. I was reading a book by Don

753
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: Thomas called Yeah, he's one of my favorite writers. Um,

754
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: whitefish can't jump fishing book. But so if you ever

755
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: want a good read, any had done. He's a traditional

756
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: bow hunter too. Um, he's been you know who he is. Okay,

757
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: So I got all his books and I reread them

758
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: over over again. Yeah. Um. So I just finished a

759
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: chapter and just putting that book up. And it was

760
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: probably oh six thirty at this point, and I just

761
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: happened to getting dark about nine thirty into shooting light.

762
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: So it's still early and I've seen a couple of

763
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: bears and it was the last day, so it was

764
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a good sign. The weather was okay, this cloudy, um,

765
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: but you see dark clouds around, so it's potentially it's

766
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna rain. Um, so I uh and then't actually and

767
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: shortly after I did start to rain, it wasn't a

768
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: hard rain at rain for about fifteen twenty minutes. It's

769
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: just miserable to hunting hunt in the rain. And um

770
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: and honestly, I mean I didn't I didn't bring the

771
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: right equipment with me on this track cold. I got cold.

772
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be. I mean it was.

773
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't think it got above fifty um the whole

774
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: time I was there. And uh. And then it rained

775
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: and snowed a couple of times. So that kind of

776
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: makes for you know, I just think it again, it

777
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: deadens that bear activity a little bit. And also you know,

778
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: you just stick with it and eventually something will happen.

779
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: But it makes it a little tougher hunt for sure mentally.

780
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: But anyway, it rained for about twenty minutes or so, um,

781
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: and then it kind of stopped and cleared up, and

782
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: I just happened to look behind me, and I saw

783
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: a bear behind me about no. Forty or fifty yards

784
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: and it was a good bear. It's one I would

785
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: have shot for sure, um if he would have come in.

786
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: It was definitely a board, just the head you could see,

787
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: but it was through the brush. It wasn't real clear,

788
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: even though it was early season and no leaves on

789
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: the trees. It's still brush. You know, you have screen

790
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: you look through like a screen. And um, so he

791
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of just walks real slow back there. He stops

792
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: a lot, then he turns and goes the other way,

793
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: and I just lose him. I mean, I'm thinking where

794
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: did he go? For the next hour and basically keep

795
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: looking behind me. Of course I'm videoing all this, and

796
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I never get him on on camera because he's behind

797
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: me and it's just an awkward position. And it's the

798
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: last day and I don't want to screw it up

799
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: with movement. If he's gonna come in, I want him

800
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: to come in and um, but I just kind of

801
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: losing him back there. He just kind of don't know

802
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: if he walked straight away and I miss him or what.

803
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: But over the next probably forty five minutes or so,

804
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: I just continually looked behind me, waiting on him to

805
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of appear. I figured if he was betted or something.

806
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: But uh on uh. One of the times I'm looking

807
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I turned back around and

808
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: there's a bear at the bait um and it was

809
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: a bear ended up shooting and he just he had

810
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: just come walking into my left I suspect it was

811
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: the same bear. I don't know for surely, think he

812
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: made a loop, could have made a loop way around

813
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: me and just came because I was kind of sitting

814
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: on the edge of this there were these slews. I

815
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: was kind of a little finger in between these two slews,

816
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: and it was a deeper sleugh on my left um

817
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: and one on my right, and they were just kind

818
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: of coming through there almost it's kind of a natural

819
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: travel corridor, and he kind of came that way. He

820
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: just kind of appeared. And that's one of the fun

821
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: parts of abated hunt that people don't understand unless you're there.

822
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: But if you spent that much time sitting in a

823
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: tree stand waiting in this this huge animal just appears

824
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: in front of you and side in bow range silent.

825
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's its own version of like a big,

826
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: huge buck, you know, standing out there making a scrape

827
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: and you see his movement. I mean you would think

828
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: you would see him. I mean, they're black, and when

829
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: you do see him, they stand out. But when they're

830
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: back in that brush, you just they're hard to see

831
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: because they don't move fast. They're generally slow movers, and

832
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: especially the older mature bears. And and he just came

833
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: in extremely slow, and he just was just there, um

834
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: and mild around the bait, and he just plops down

835
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: basically and and turns his back to me. Um and

836
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: never really had a good shot anyway when he came

837
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: in originally, but I had, you know, three different cameras

838
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: set up just because I wanted to make sure we

839
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: got this proof that he was there. Um and you know,

840
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: we're filming something for for Beare Horizons, and so I

841
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure, you know, we had good footage.

842
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: So I had a go pro set up on the

843
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: bait and then really two cameras around me, and uh

844
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: by GoPro is one to activate with my phone. It's

845
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: remote through the phone, and so I'm digging through my

846
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: pockets trying to get the phone out so I can

847
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: turn the camera on and and activate it. And all

848
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I mean, I didn't think I made

849
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: a noise, but apparently I did. So he turns his

850
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: head and looks and gets up and just slowly walks away.

851
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, You've got to be kidding me.

852
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: He's stupid cameras. Yeah, so what I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Clay,

853
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: why did he don't need to film this? But uh,

854
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: but he walked away slow, He just kinda I mean,

855
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: so I was kind of hoping he would come back.

856
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: And it turns out he did. He just walked maybe

857
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: twenty thirty yards away, turned around and stopped. You. Yeah,

858
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that this is awful, but it's still early enough.

859
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: It's seven thirty two hours last were taking Okay, something's

860
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna come in, so if I blow this one, I'm

861
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: still okay. But this was a good bear. I mean,

862
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: judging bears is hard, um and I was guessing this

863
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: bear in the two fifty pound range, which was to

864
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: me a good bear about anywhere you go. But h

865
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: So he did kind of mosey back in really slow,

866
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: took his time, went around the baits and and eventually

867
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: the circled in and it was like he just came

868
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: broadside and he really exposed his chest, I mean just perfectly.

869
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: And I just sent the arrow in and went right then,

870
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: probably about sixteen seventeen yards so, and the arrow just

871
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: uh smacked the other side of his uh shoulder, went

872
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: through and and and buried in the other side of

873
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: his shoulder. And he ran off and and I mean

874
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: blood popped out as soon as that arrow hit. And

875
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: I thought, that's a dead bear. And I thought Clay

876
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be happy. He's gonna happy. And I was

877
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: definitely was. He definitely was. We were so Colbe and

878
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I were in the back country and I had just

879
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: missed a bear air with a rifle when I got

880
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: a text message. We had surprisingly good cell coverage were out.

881
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I got a text message from Brian and I could

882
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: tell the bear was big because he looked big with

883
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: you standing beside it, sitting sitting beside it, it's like

884
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: that is a big bear. And he was bigger than

885
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: he thought he was. Oh yeah, because uh, you know,

886
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: it's like any outfitter, they want you to you know,

887
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: wait for them. And so I actually just walked out

888
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: because I wanted to get some daylight recovery you know,

889
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: footage as well. And um, so I walked out about

890
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: a mile where I could get radio server because that's

891
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: probably two miles back in and so Todd came up

892
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: with the a TV and we just followed the It

893
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: was a sparse blood trail, which I was kind of

894
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: surprised with the amount of blood when the arrow hit.

895
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: It was a it was a it was a you know,

896
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: a small cup full of blood that popped out of him. Um,

897
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: but like bears do, they just don't bleed real well. Um,

898
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: but it was easy to follow the trail, and um,

899
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: he just tore up the ground. He went about eight

900
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: any yards and just piled up. And yeah, when I

901
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: saw him, and Todd was in front, and he just said, oh,

902
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: he just started hooting and hollering. Oh, you know, it's

903
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: a really big bear. And I didn't see it yet.

904
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: But then when I walked up on him and just

905
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: saw the really the massive black that's laying on the

906
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: ground and just how big it is, I realized, Wow,

907
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: this is a big bear. And end up being about

908
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: a little over three d fifty pounds actually there. So

909
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: what did it exactly? What it was right? A little

910
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: a little over three hundred pounds with the guts out okay, okay,

911
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: guts out, and so Todd said that, oh, that's probably

912
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: about fifty pounds or so and guts um, and so

913
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: we're guessing around three fifty. But it was the head

914
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: that was big. You could tell immediately picking up the

915
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: head it was nineteen plus head, if not twenty. And

916
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: Todd immediately said, it's you know, uh, he judges heads.

917
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: That's his what he really likes. You know. He don't

918
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: care how long it is, how much it weighs, what

919
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: it squares. How big that hells what he wants to know,

920
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: and he immediately said he picked it up. He so, yeah,

921
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: this is a um And when we end up taking

922
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: the skull out, it was twenty and a half. And

923
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: that's that's an incredible animal. I mean, of the bears

924
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: that I've killed, I only killed one that's that that

925
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: dried over twenty and that and that's an issue there

926
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: is that the the official score has to be done

927
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: six days after the drying period, which is which starts

928
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: after the skull is completely out of the hide. And

929
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I've I've killed a couple that that green scored over twenty.

930
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Actually two that green scored over twenty that shrunk to

931
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: be under twenty more in the high nineteen. So just

932
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: one of them made over. So I say that to

933
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: say that that's an incredible animal. And the Boone and

934
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: Crockett Awards minimum is twenty inches Boone and Crockett All

935
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: time is so there's two. There's two entry levels into

936
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: every big game animal in Boone and Crockett. There's the awards,

937
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: that's just what they call it. We can talk about

938
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: that in another podcast. There's an awards minimum and there's

939
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: an all time minimum and for bear you need where

940
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: in the world a twenty inch bear is a giant

941
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: You can't. I mean, if you were if you had

942
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars Brian and said, I want to go

943
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: to the best outfitter in the world and I have

944
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: to kill a twenty inch bear, you couldn't do it, right.

945
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nobody that can guarantee you that my

946
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: five fifty pound bear in Oklahoma this year did not

947
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: score twenty inches. He green. He green scored twenty and

948
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: won sixteen. He's one of the ones that actually I've had,

949
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: well I've had two that he was one of them,

950
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: and he's been in the higher nineteen. Yeah, he's not

951
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: even twenty bear. But anyway, I hijacked your story just

952
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: to that's just the genetics up there, because even the

953
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: other bears in camp had big heads on them. Um.

954
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: And then that's just what's there. Um, that's just what

955
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: they grow. So it's like some you know, Kansas has

956
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: big white tails, and you know, well the duck Mountains

957
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: of Manitoba have big bears. So you were really excited.

958
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: I was, what does Brian Stricken act like when he's excited?

959
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: He puts a little smirk on his face. Man, that's

960
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: what I thought. That's my cop instinct in me. So

961
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: you just Brian's a former law enforcement agent. So but uh,

962
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: but no, it's big. I mean when you just reached

963
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: down there and you kneel beside it and you just

964
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: touch them and and you realize they're just big. I

965
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: mean the paws are big, the head was big as

966
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: his pelt was incredible. It was just perfect. And uh,

967
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: it was just a great great bear. I mean, I

968
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: couldn't have been pleased. And I did what Clay told

969
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: me to do, was hold out, don't kill a small bear.

970
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: You did it, man, I did it follow instruction as well.

971
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: Good Yeah, really, congratulations beautiful bear. And and it's awesome

972
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: that you did it with one of our outfits. I

973
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: mean Bear Hunting Magazine. We we we are associated with

974
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: some of the best black bear hunting outfitters in the world.

975
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: We really are. And uh and and and Todd is

976
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: one of those. I can send one of those. He

977
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: was a good guy. I mean I got to spend

978
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: a lot of time with him and the other two

979
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: guys because I actually bunked with them. Um, because I

980
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to have that experience of seeing you know,

981
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: who they are and top notch guys. I mean they're

982
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: always thinking about, Okay, how can we make this better?

983
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: And what can we do next time that's to make

984
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: it better? I mean really one is you know, knowing

985
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: that I've been with you know, uh, quite a few outfitters,

986
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: he asked me, you know what what do you think?

987
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: You know? What would you change? Um, So he's really him.

988
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: He's relative hungry. He's hungry. He's pretty in his thirties somewhere.

989
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: This his third year. He's been a guide most of

990
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: his Uh he's a timber guide, does a lot of

991
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: timber and surveying and um but uh, he's been guiding,

992
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, since he's been an adult. Um and uh

993
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: so this is his he's been doing the outfitting now

994
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: for bears here in Manitoba for I think it's his

995
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: third season. Um but I know he does a really

996
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: good job. He's conscientious and uh, which is kind of

997
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: what you want absolutely and and and an outfitter someone

998
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna take care of you and really wants you

999
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: to to be successful. So you know, I want to

1000
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: talk about like what makes a northern spring bear camp

1001
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: so unique and fun because some some people could say

1002
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: I baited bear hunt. You know, there's a challenge in it.

1003
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: There isn't. Let me tell you to go hunt a

1004
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: big game animal in the spring from someone who's conditioned

1005
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: to only hunt in the fall, adds a whole another

1006
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: dimension to your hunting. Is an incredible experience in and

1007
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: of itself. I mean, I've been hunting now spring bear

1008
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: seasons for about six years. I guess before that, I've

1009
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: never handed in spring, and I mean it was like

1010
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: and and it still is. But to me, it's an

1011
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: incredible experience. It is to load up your your your

1012
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: bow or your rifle in our face and go out

1013
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: in late April on a big game hunt. I mean,

1014
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: there's there's there's no other thing that you can do

1015
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: it with. Ye We were talking to Joe condellas Western

1016
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Bear Foundation yesterday and he gave me some insight that

1017
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: I never even thought about before. But he said, he said,

1018
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: like with wild sheep, guys go nuts over wild sheep

1019
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: and give all this money to wild sheep and they'll

1020
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: probably never hunt one in their life. And and you

1021
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: know the comparison we all get it wild cheaper, extraordinary,

1022
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: animals and beautiful and rare and in in but we

1023
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: have black bear in all these different places spring and

1024
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: fall seasons, and there's just this incredible opportunity and uh

1025
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: and a lot of people really never utilize it. Well,

1026
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: mostly the opportunities are over the counter, over the counter,

1027
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just a matter of you loading

1028
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: your truck up, pointing at some place and going yes,

1029
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: and and what what we're trying to do, Brian, and

1030
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: you know this, but I mean, we are trying to

1031
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: to elevate the status of black bear hunting and constant

1032
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: what we believe and know. It's conservation in North America.

1033
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're the guys that are coming in

1034
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, it's cool to be a bear hunter.

1035
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: And if you're a bear hunter, it doesn't mean that

1036
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: you're not everything else you always were before, But to

1037
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: bear hunt it's cool. The bears are the icon of

1038
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: North American wilderness. It's an incredible animal, incredible meat, incredible hide,

1039
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: incredible fur, incredible teeth and fang and claw, and that

1040
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: it is fat exactly. I'd rather hunt bears over spring

1041
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: turkeys anyway, any day. Turkeys you can't trust in spring

1042
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: turkey and you're talking to a Southern who loves spring

1043
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: turkey hunting. Yeah, you can't trust him. Yeah, they'll they'll

1044
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: you'll go out and not hear at gobble. I'm just

1045
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: going a pretty little nature high. Which was nice to

1046
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: about this bear camp and other ones I've been to,

1047
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: is that you just have a plethora of hunters in camp,

1048
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: some that have never seen a bear, some of the

1049
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: hunted bears a couple of times, or some that have

1050
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: hunted bears for thirty years, um. And so you're, you know,

1051
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: you're experiencing things with other people for the first time,

1052
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: as well as hearing stories from guys that have been

1053
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: doing it for so long. One of the guys in

1054
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: camp was a his name was Paul Klasman. He's killed

1055
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: twenty seven bears. I mean he is he is a

1056
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: bear man's he loves to hunt bears and uh, he's

1057
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: killed grizzlies and and blacks and browns and um, and

1058
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, just hearing his stories and he's actually killed

1059
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: he killed twenty one inch bear up there last year

1060
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: and uh and uh with Todd, So I mean he's

1061
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: killed big bears and so that's why it comes back

1062
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: there um, his I think the bear he killed was

1063
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: nineteen this year. So but so yeah, you're meeting you know,

1064
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: you're with with people that at all phases of of

1065
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: of the bear hunting world. And some guys mainly hunting

1066
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: bears one time in their life, but then some guys

1067
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: just kind of get addicted to it. They just love

1068
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. So, um, you know,

1069
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of those ones. I think there's three kinds

1070
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: of bear hunters too. I think there's ones that just

1071
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: want to try it one and done, check check the

1072
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: box off, and they'll never do it again. And there's

1073
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: guys that will do it if they have time to

1074
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: do it in the springtime. But then there's the guys

1075
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: that are just completely dedicated to it that will be

1076
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: good hunt every spring, that hunt every spring, won't missus

1077
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: spring and one hunt two or three places in the

1078
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: spring if they can. Yeah. Yeah, well man, it sounds

1079
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: like an incredible week. Uh. I like this early season

1080
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: bear hunting. I mean typically like classic spring bear hunt

1081
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: is the twenties of May through the first of June. Um,

1082
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: but you know this early spring bear hunt is really

1083
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: good and uh man, that's awesome. We congratulations, No, thank you.

1084
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: It was a fun hunt and uh we had a

1085
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: good time. So it was a good, good, good camp.

1086
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: And uh so I'm looking forward to swinging up there

1087
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: again sometime. Well, we've got our mules out here in

1088
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: the trailer. Yea, we uh gotta east. Yeah, we're driving

1089
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: all the way back to Arkansas tonight. But thanks for

1090
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: meeting us over here, Brian, you bet, thank you for pleasure.

1091
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: And uh any closing comments, probably one of you. Yeah,

1092
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna hear something from bear Tech Bartech.

1093
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Hunting the West didn't easy? Yeah, no it's not. Well

1094
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: all right, Brian, thanks a lot, man, Thank you. I appreciate.

1095
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Why don't you cloth give us a what's do you know?

1096
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: The Barony magazine podcast tagline keep the wild Places wild

1097
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: because that's where the bears live. Dang, you can tell

1098
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm a column of something. That's it. I don't even

1099
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: need to say. It's done. My respect just went up

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00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: even more