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Speaker 1: What's up the Generation? Welcome to the Big Uts on

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Speaker 1: Campus Podcast. This is the College Basketball Conference Tournament Betting

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Speaker 1: Preview Part three. Today I will be talking with Jordan

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Speaker 1: Jeskian just the second on the Missouri Valley Arch Madness.

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Speaker 1: Also talk with Sam Fetterman about the MAC and then

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Speaker 1: Duck and Breeze will carry you out with the w

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Speaker 1: c C and soak on. All right, let's get started.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring Jordan in here, a college basketball legend used

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Speaker 1: to work for us that action now does great work

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Speaker 1: on his uh stare at the Floorboards blog that I'm

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Speaker 1: a loyal subscriber to and over at Basket Review. Nobody

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Speaker 1: else you want to follow for March more than Jordan

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Speaker 1: at jor Cubs Dan on Twitter, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Valley. There's no one else I'd rather talk

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Speaker 1: to Jordan. What's going on? Brother? Happy March?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you too, thanks for having me back. Yeah, on

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Speaker 2: sub talk ar badness.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing better, by the way, do you think so

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Speaker 1: if you look historically the three everyone's going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Valley Unders right like, it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: the market's catching up. Then last year they went ten

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Speaker 1: and one the three biggest under tournaments. One that really

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Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'll talk. I'm going to I

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Speaker 1: talk with Sam last night for god way too long,

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Speaker 1: but h I love him. Uh boardwalk call unders. There

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Speaker 1: are have been a cash con. I mean that stage

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Speaker 1: that there's like a stage, it's like a cavern. So

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Speaker 1: that kind of makes sense. The Summit at the new

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Speaker 1: Sandford Center that they have it at actually has been

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Speaker 1: a under cash cow historically twenty six and twelve to

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Speaker 1: the under by about five points per game.

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Speaker 2: That's tough for that league to go under too.

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Speaker 1: I know, like I'm like, do I really want to

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Speaker 1: look at unders in that league? Then that that makes

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Speaker 1: sense with all of those offenses in no tempo. But

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Speaker 1: the Valley obviously do you think it's the gym, is

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Speaker 1: it the coaching, is it the familiarity? Is it just

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been to several arch madnesses and I

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Speaker 2: I can see why this is a horrible shooting background,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's just I think it's just the nature

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Speaker 2: of typical Valley slugfest basketball too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's dive into the bracket. Belmont won

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Speaker 1: the regular season. They are the favorite about about plus

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Speaker 1: one sixty five. Your second favorite, interestingly enough at some

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Speaker 1: books is you and I who will get to And

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Speaker 1: the crazy thing about that is that they don't have

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Speaker 1: Nobody in Valley history has ever won the tournament coming

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Speaker 1: from opening day. Valpo in twenty twenty got there as

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Speaker 1: a seven seed, but didn't win it. Recently, this tournament

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Speaker 1: has been pretty chalky one verse two and four of

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Speaker 1: the past five Valley Conference tournaments. But let's I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll start at the top and then work our way down.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's start the eight verse nine game winner

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Speaker 1: will get Belmont Southern Illinois. Drake, Drake, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: And I think if you're Belmont, you definitely want to

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Speaker 1: So if it, yeah, I don't. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: physicality of SIU an elite defense. They you know, the

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Speaker 1: They lost Nick McClain early in the season. Jack Smiley's

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Speaker 2: one for one hundred and two from three, so you know,

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Speaker 2: that's thirty percent the last two Valley tournaments and they

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Speaker 3: The difference is for Belmont.

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Speaker 2: They can score at the rim.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're way more They're ten percent more efficient

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and another thing that could work in their favor

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if we assume that Belmont passes a grinder,

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Speaker 1: SLU won't make it easy. It gets to the Semis

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Speaker 1: State U S. Fascinating game. This game will probably be

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Speaker 1: in this from a Podds perspective, at around ten to one.

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Speaker 3: If you go back to.

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Speaker 1: Mary State scored eighty one in both meetings. Crawford played

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Speaker 1: They have an elite defense, they'll force turnovers, crash the

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Speaker 1: shot I think close to fifty percent from three. I

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Speaker 1: think they can turn Belmont over. Their physicality can cause

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Speaker 1: against Belmont. I thought, you know, they were up twenty

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Speaker 1: just something wrong with that. I mean, Murray has talent,

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Speaker 3: Shots that way.

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Speaker 2: And that's what exactly happened in the regular season when

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Speaker 3: And ball screen.

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Speaker 2: So I agree, I've given up on Murray State. But

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Speaker 2: they can create with the moon on the ball. You know,

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Speaker 2: Fred King is a post beast. It's there's such a

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Speaker 2: non existent, and so I think, like we mentioned earlier, ironically,

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue for Belmont in that top

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Speaker 2: half of the bracket is SIU.

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Speaker 1: So you think SIA is a better chance than you

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Speaker 1: I see, Yeah I do.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's in the in Saint Louis again, because

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Speaker 2: they just got wide open three after wide open three

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Speaker 2: when they were able to you know, because they moved

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a U S S I for

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Speaker 1: its turn them over and then hope they missed over

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Speaker 1: cold shooting night exactly. Yeah, one fifty percent, which isn't

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Speaker 1: like way over expectations. I mean, this is a lead

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Speaker 1: Seven to ten game Valpo Indiana State. I know you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Valpo gives me a little interest because they I mean,

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Speaker 2: Much out physicaled Indiana State, who's the opposite. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bradley the two seed awaits the winner of that game.

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Speaker 1: Bradley's a weird team. I mean, Jacoran Johnson is, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, there's just not much offense outside of like

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Speaker 1: We're gonna just cross off Evansville. Yeah, yeah, we're moving

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Speaker 1: But this is a very connected group. They're third and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can, like I get the process

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Speaker 3: So you know.

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Speaker 2: So I do lean Illinois State to advance from that one.

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Speaker 1: And you know it would be helpful if if Kin

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, horrible year.

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Speaker 2: I think Hubris has the best form in the valley.

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Speaker 1: Two amazing shooters we want to watch. You can get

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Speaker 1: I think they predictably. I think Bradley predictably against Illinois State,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's start with Bradley Illinois State. I think

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Speaker 1: And then that becomes but Illinois State, I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: Right And then yeah, as you noted earlier, you got

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Speaker 1: It won't matter if he found he found on eleven

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Speaker 2: Exactly, I was gonna say I think he only played

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Speaker 2: So he's kind of this polarizing figure for them, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because then you just go you just go smaller

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for six to eighteen, I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The court for and then against Bradley when he was

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Speaker 1: All amount a team that can make make with their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said that, the improvement at the rim

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Speaker 1: Like I want to see Saint Thomas just because I

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Speaker 2: So yeah, those are essentially the same offense as Saint

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Speaker 1: gonna say, if I'm looking for a flyer, there's something

436
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Speaker 1: about you I see with Crawford. But Belmo will have

437
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Speaker 1: to have an offshooting night for them to beat them.

438
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Speaker 1: But maybe Syu can do the dirty work.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I think that's the

440
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Speaker 2: you know, big kink in the hose there. If you're

441
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Speaker 2: trying to map out it up, you know, a surprise

442
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Speaker 2: valley winner. It would be SYU setting that first domino

443
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Speaker 2: with a win over a Belmont.

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Speaker 1: S I u U I c semi would I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at their what were their scores? I was

446
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Speaker 1: gonna say that total might open seventy four kidding, Uh,

447
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Speaker 1: that would be a absolute grinder.

448
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Speaker 2: All right.

449
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you Jordan for joining me. Check him out at

450
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Speaker 1: your cubs down on Twitter. Does a work all through March.

451
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Speaker 1: You're gonna want to read what he's putting out. No

452
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Speaker 1: one covers the sport. Better appreciate you, brother, enjoy the madness.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on again.

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Speaker 1: All right? Now joined by the one and only Sam Fetterman,

455
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Speaker 1: who I just when I hear matt ak basketball, this

456
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Speaker 1: is who I think of. I hear you mentioned on

457
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Speaker 1: the broadcast all the time too, and I can tell

458
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Speaker 1: you this is how I'm so. I can't believe I

459
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Speaker 1: missed this DM, but you want to know how this

460
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Speaker 1: is just describes you perfectly. You DMed me in twenty

461
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Speaker 1: twenty two. Can I get your flow Hoops login for

462
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Speaker 1: Iona Santa Clara. If I saw it, I would have

463
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Speaker 1: happily given it to you. That was what you DM

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Speaker 1: me for. It was late night on November twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 5: I do not remember dming you that like I do

467
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Speaker 5: remember like trying to figure out how to watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Clow hoops is it's something we're here today. I

469
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Speaker 1: talk about that Matt in Atlantic City. This has been

470
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Speaker 1: a chaotic conference tournament over the past couple years. I

471
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Speaker 1: mean you had I own I mean I owned it,

472
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Speaker 1: dominated it for a while, but like three years ago,

473
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Speaker 1: I own it was in the finals an eleven seed.

474
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Speaker 1: You had mount win it last year as of what

475
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Speaker 1: five or six?

476
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Speaker 5: Six and the five seed Saint Peter's two years ago.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's been a lot of chaos in the bracket.

478
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Speaker 1: This will take place in Atlantic City. But let's dive

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Speaker 1: in to the bracket. Merrimack is the favorite and they

480
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Speaker 1: won the regular season outright by three games. They are

481
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Speaker 1: known for a very very unique zone under Joe Gallo

482
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Speaker 1: as a hell of a coach, and it's not your

483
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Speaker 1: typical zone. I mean it's a zone that is very aggressive.

484
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Speaker 1: They take away the three, they look to generate turnovers,

485
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Speaker 1: and they can have some teams in this conference in

486
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Speaker 1: complete pretzels offensively and their defense. I mean Bronia he's

487
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Speaker 1: very underrated on the defensive end. And then you have

488
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Speaker 1: Case who is so long great at the rim. I

489
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Speaker 1: assume he's okay, right, he'll.

490
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Speaker 5: Be playing this weekend. It was it was an ankle.

491
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Speaker 5: They wanted to rest him. They'd already won the conference title.

492
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Speaker 5: He warmed up on Sunday, he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Ugu Kazi should be good to go. Then

494
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Speaker 1: you have you know, morero whole makeer. He seems like

495
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Speaker 1: he's just a clutch shot maker. But there their offense

496
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Speaker 1: is really run by two Philly guards and there's a

497
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Speaker 1: a Philly connection to Joe Gallo. With Ernest Shelton and

498
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Speaker 1: Kabar Kennedy. I think a major storyline in Atlantic City

499
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Speaker 1: is what kind of whistle is Kennedy going to get?

500
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Speaker 1: He gets a very friendly whistle a lot of games, right.

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's so good at getting into the lane

502
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Speaker 1: and getting to the line. That's like Mermack's offense when

503
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Speaker 1: they like need a bucket, need some points, it's him

504
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Speaker 1: getting into the lane and getting to the line. What

505
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Speaker 1: kind of whistles is he going to get? Because he

506
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: can take over a game by not only getting points

507
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Speaker 1: there because he seemingly never misses at the line, but

508
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Speaker 1: two getting opposing guards into and big sometimes into foul trouble.

509
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Speaker 1: I mean, I look back to that Siena game when

510
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Speaker 1: Justice Schultz played eleven minutes and fouled out a guy

511
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Speaker 1: who never fouls.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They had that game against Quinnipiac, very bizarre. In that

514
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Speaker 1: Quinnipiac game when a Seam Jones, their senior point guard,

515
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Speaker 1: he got in foucher had only played like they just

516
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Speaker 1: didn't play in the whole game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, sim Jones picked up a dumb foul in

518
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Speaker 5: the first minute of the game, and then he picked

519
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Speaker 5: up another foul in like a minute, like like a

520
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Speaker 5: couple of minutes later, and TP sits TP sits guys

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Speaker 5: with two fouls, and then he just didn't want to

522
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Speaker 5: mess with the flow of the offense or the defense

523
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Speaker 5: at that point in the second half. And Ty Turnage

524
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Speaker 5: was kind of actually playing pretty well in that game.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I would have gone back to a Sim

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Speaker 5: Jones when when they needed points at that point, because

527
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Speaker 5: a Sim Jones, as we saw yesterday on or on Sunday,

528
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Speaker 5: kind of willed Quinnipiac back to when that came against

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Speaker 5: Canisius so yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like you can't. It's hard to have

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Speaker 1: against that zone to you know, go with your freshman

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Speaker 1: point guard over mean, who will? I mean he only

533
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Speaker 1: finished with what two points in like four thirty eight

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Speaker 1: minutes over.

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Speaker 5: And it's like he I thought he, I thought he

536
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Speaker 5: played fine, but in the second half he wasted a

537
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Speaker 5: couple of possessions for them. And that's something that maybe

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Speaker 5: a freshman point guard that plays for a fast paced

539
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Speaker 5: team against it in a game where it's like that,

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Speaker 5: it's really difficult. But yeah, you mentioned it with Kennedy

541
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Speaker 5: and the whistle that he gets. Jerry McNamara talked about

542
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Speaker 5: this after the game. He was like, man, he gets

543
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Speaker 5: sixteen free throws. Like the guy's in the paint on

544
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Speaker 5: every possession, like he's he's gonna get fouled. He's going

545
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Speaker 5: to win Conference Player of the Year. He led the

546
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Speaker 5: league in scoring during conference play because whenever he wanted to,

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Speaker 5: he's in the paint. He's fast, he blows by guys,

548
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Speaker 5: and he understands leverage in terms of how to get

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Speaker 5: himself to draw contact.

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Speaker 1: My favorite version of like SGA when he plays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no. My favorite thing about his offen and especially

552
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Speaker 5: like because her early career SGA before the three point

553
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Speaker 5: shot came along, but obviously much smaller of a player.

554
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Speaker 5: He's listed six to I don't think he's six too,

555
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Speaker 5: but that doesn't mean he's not great. What I would

556
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Speaker 5: say about Cavert is something that he's always able to

557
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Speaker 5: do at a high level is even if it's kind

558
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: of getting walled off for twenty seconds or for ten seconds,

559
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Speaker 5: he'll find his way into the lane at the end

560
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Speaker 5: of a possession to create something.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, if you there's nothing going that's set a

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Speaker 1: screen for him. He gets into the lane, gets to

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Speaker 1: the bucket a lot of times, gets to the line.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the field. Merrimack is the favorite.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, around three to one. They didn't get

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Speaker 1: an easy drawl in that they're gonna play the winner

567
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Speaker 1: of Iona's Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart was fifty to one

568
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Speaker 1: to win the league. Their defense is really bad on

569
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Speaker 1: the perimeter and at the rim. They are the best

570
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Speaker 1: three point shooting team in the league, but they just

571
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: can't seem to figure out the Merrimack zone. Iona is

572
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the more interesting team. They're at eighteen to one. On

573
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Speaker 1: the surface, you would be like maybe they don't match

574
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Speaker 1: up well with Merrimack because they're not great on the

575
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Speaker 1: offensive glass, and Merrimack will get demolished on the glass

576
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: in games one because they don't go after the offensive rebound,

577
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Speaker 1: and then two because they're in the zone you can

578
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Speaker 1: get a lot offensive rebounds on them. But Marverick just

579
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: has they have shot makers. They seem to know how

580
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Speaker 1: to attack that zone. They could have swept Merrimack. They

581
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Speaker 1: beat him in the first meeting. The second meeting was

582
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Speaker 1: a thriller that went the double overtime. Drawing iona as

583
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Speaker 1: the one seed in your first game is based on

584
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Speaker 1: how they've played this year, that's that's not a great

585
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the best draw.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you mentioned it with the rebounding. Yeah, I

587
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: own is not a great offensive rebounding team, but Merrimack is.

588
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 5: They're not a good rebounding team in general, to the

589
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Speaker 5: point where it honestly benefits the teams that don't already

590
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Speaker 5: get a ton of offensive rebounds, offers them more offensive

591
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Speaker 5: opportunities that they don't usually.

592
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Speaker 1: Have, Like a really good offensive rebounding team is getting

593
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Speaker 1: them anyway. So it's like, who cares that you're getting

594
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Speaker 1: a bunch against Merrimac is usually getting them. Anyway, I

595
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: get what you're saying.

596
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Speaker 5: And because because you're already creating those opportunities, Iona's offensive

597
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 5: struggled on first shot and they're not getting second shots. Actually,

598
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: they don't struggle a ton on first shots. They actually

599
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: make a bunch of shots. That's kind of the one

600
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Speaker 5: thing that they over the course of the season have

601
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Speaker 5: been doing for the most part offensively. But they turn

602
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Speaker 5: it over, they don't draw fouls, and they don't get

603
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Speaker 5: offensive rebounds. Well, they're gonna get offensive rebounds against Merrimac.

604
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Speaker 5: Everyone does. A good scoring team. They have plenty of shooters,

605
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 5: Toby Harris, Luke Jungers both shooting over forty percent.

606
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Speaker 1: Who also who went nuts the last time they played.

607
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: He's all yeah.

608
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Speaker 3: CJ.

609
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Speaker 5: Anthony is an incredible point guard, even though he's had

610
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: the turnover issues over the last two games, which again

611
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: could be something to note against the Merrimack zone. Although

612
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Speaker 5: he he did not play well in the win against Merrimac.

613
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: So they have other guys and Kozy Yakamet, who's playing

614
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Speaker 5: his best basketball the season right now, most consistent basketball

615
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Speaker 5: this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he played well that last meeting against Merrimack, and

617
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Speaker 1: then he had all that zone.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, he had sixteen in that game twenty two against Ryder,

619
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Speaker 5: fifteen against Manhattan. Athletic guy can slash off the wing,

620
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: has a little bit of a handle as well, So

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Speaker 5: I think that he's he's the X factor difference maker

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Speaker 5: for Iona. Obviously you're gonna need Harris and jungers to

623
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: make shots, but he's the X factor and a difference

624
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: maker for them in this conference tournament.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, who do you got if it's Iona? Well,

626
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Speaker 1: did you have Iona beating Sacred Heart?

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Speaker 5: I would lean in that direction at the moment. I

628
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: haven't finalized a bracket yet, but I would lean in

629
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Speaker 5: that direction. I know Sacred Heart's defense is like getting

630
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 5: a little bit better, but it's just not enough right now.

631
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Speaker 5: And Sacred Heart could come out and kind of control

632
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: the pace of this game, play it fast, get out

633
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: and transition, hit shots. But I think that's kind of

634
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Speaker 5: the one thing that I'm not like. I do think

635
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: Iona can come out and hit shots as well. It's

636
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Speaker 5: not that they are definitely not going to and I

637
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Speaker 5: think that Iona is the better defensive team, much better.

638
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Speaker 5: I would lean Merrimac in a game against Iona.

639
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Speaker 3: I can't.

640
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Speaker 5: I just can't see Joe Gallo losing his first conference

641
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Speaker 5: tournament game with this team.

642
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Well, if Merrimack gets by Iona or Sacred Heart, they'll

643
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Speaker 1: take on the winner of the four to five game

644
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Speaker 1: between Quinnipiac and Marist. The good thing for Merrimac is,

645
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Speaker 1: I mean, you have Maris and Quinnipiac are two teams

646
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: that have seen some of the most zone in the

647
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Speaker 1: country and they are second percent so man Maris is

648
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: second percentile efficiency in zone offense and Quinnipiac is third. Now,

649
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: part of that is they saw a lot of the

650
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Merrimack zone.

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00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: Maryor Max swept both of them.

652
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have much success. They also saw some

653
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: zone what.

654
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: Against Peters Saint Peter's in Manhattan both a bunch.

655
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and they are they have been miserable zone offenses.

656
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Quinnipiac wants to play fast, get out in transition, but

657
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: like you can't really do against Merrimack. That's another kind

658
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: of notch against them in that matchup. Monroe very good player,

659
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Mario Monroe, if you haven't seen him play for Quinnipiac.

660
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: And then with Marris, my question for you is, look,

661
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: John Dunn They have the best, the elite man de man.

662
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: They allowed nothing in transition, and they can lock you

663
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: down in the half court even though they lack, you know,

664
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: just size across the board. But they lost Lewis, who

665
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: was their second or first leading scorer.

666
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: At the time.

667
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 5: He was their second leading scorer.

668
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: They lost him for the year. Scofield, he didn't play

669
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: the final two games. You know his status.

670
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: I would be pretty surprised if he played, but it's

671
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: not out of the question. And Watson has obviously been

672
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 5: out for the season since January.

673
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you think the injuries are and some

674
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: of the offensive limitations from Maris are just too much

675
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: to overcome.

676
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: I mean, look, Schofield is Scofield, and Watson are like

677
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: the two guys that I think are are kind of

678
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: zone killers for them because you can throw it in

679
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: the you can just throw it into like twelve feet

680
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: and they can go score from there, and they can

681
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 5: find the dunker spot. They can find the high post

682
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: guy like Schofield, he just throw it into him and

683
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 5: he'll give up a lot defensively, but he'll score sixteen

684
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: points in sixteen minutes. Watson's kind of kind of got

685
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 5: the same way in some sense, So I do think

686
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 5: you lose a lot of that, and so much of

687
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: the offense is now relying on right shown Blackwell and

688
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: Justin Minard, two guys that are good, but Blackwell has

689
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: been really inconsistent recently. Minard, I think he's a really

690
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: good player and has shown the ability to hit big

691
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 5: shots over the course of the year, but has also

692
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 5: shown the ability to kind of take some take some

693
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 5: shots that maybe he doesn't need to in certain spots.

694
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: I thought their offense was pressing on Sunday against Saint

695
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: Peter's and Jayden Collins Roberts does play his best basketball

696
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 5: in Atlantic City. That is something to keep an eye on.

697
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 5: But I do think the size is going to catch

698
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: up to them at some point, and I think mostly

699
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: just the lack of a ton of scoring options is

700
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: going to catch up to them. I just look at

701
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 5: this roster and say, hey, like, unless Miles Parker comes

702
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 5: out and hits a bunch of shots and he struggles defensively,

703
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 5: and then obviously you need Minard and Blackwell to play

704
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: well and JCR to play well. Marist to me really

705
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: strung right now, and Quinnipiac, I mean they're struggling too.

706
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: They came into the Canecious game losers of three in

707
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 5: a row. A Mario Monroe had an ice bag on

708
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: his left on his right knee after the Niagara game

709
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: that he didn't play the last nine minutes and twenty

710
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 5: three seconds of regulation or in overtime, and then he

711
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: sat out the Canecious game, So we're still waiting to

712
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 5: hear the status on him. I would be surprised if

713
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: he didn't give it a go.

714
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: But he might not be a hundred percent.

715
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm looking at here. Quinnipiac

716
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: has a lot of different guys that can score. I

717
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: don't think that would be the end of the world

718
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 5: for them, the way that having three guys out for

719
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: Marist is too difficult to overcome. Sim Jones can can

720
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: get you a bucket. Jayden Zimmermann can get you a bucket.

721
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 5: Keith McKnight you can throw it into him and he'll

722
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: be really physical. I think he's the type of guy

723
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 5: that has the sort of physicality that I'm not sure

724
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: Marist right now has the bodies to put up with

725
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: a ton.

726
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I agree matchup wise, I think the scariest game is

727
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: the potential first game with Iona, and then if Iona

728
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: wins that, I think they'd get all the way to

729
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: the championship. But let's focus on the bottom half. You

730
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: have the first round game between Fairfield and Manhattan. Fairfield

731
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: very very young team, solid inside out to with Sparks

732
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: and Benjamin and Manhattan it's one hundred and sixty to one.

733
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't have many great things to say about this Manhattan.

734
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: I mean, their defense is pretty bad. There are all

735
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: offenses like mid range based and they basically haven't beat

736
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: anyone with a pulse in months. But the winner of

737
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: that game will take on Saint Peter's. Who is They're

738
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: going to press, They're going to zone. As we mentioned before,

739
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: they have a very solid defense. Their half court offense

740
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: is pretty ugly, but basically they just want to get

741
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: the ball up on the rim and then get after

742
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: the offensive glass and then get to the line and

743
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: get second chance points. And they did sweep Fairfield and Manhattan.

744
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: Any threat to Saint Peter's or do you think that

745
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: they advanced to the semis.

746
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Of the four matchups where we know like who's going

747
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: to be playing who? Fairfield over Manhattan is probably the

748
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: one I'm most confident in you mentioned it. Manhattan hasn't

749
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: beaten anyone good in a long time. I was there

750
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 5: when they beat Quinnipiac on January tewod like they haven't.

751
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: That's the last time they beat anyone in this field?

752
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Right?

753
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 5: No, they beat Stacred Heart on February seventh. OK, but

754
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: that's the nine seed they haven't beat. They haven't beaten

755
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: the top eight seed in a long time. And Fairfield's

756
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 5: obviously playing really good basketball, really good team on the glass.

757
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: But with Benjamin and Declan Lucker Fenig, their bench has

758
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 5: really come along as well, because the starters are good,

759
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 5: the freshmen are good, but the bench has really come along.

760
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: With Eric Mheeah and Deuced Turner playing well. Isaac Mancatti

761
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 5: gave them two really good performances when Benjamin didn't play

762
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: against in the second half against Quinnipiack and then the

763
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 5: Siena game as well. So I would say that, But

764
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: what's the game that Fairfield has struggled the most in

765
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: over the last month and a half. That would be

766
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: Saint Peter's away obviously, aside from the Mount this weekend.

767
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: That would be Saint Peter's away when they really struggled

768
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: with the zone, got down by twenty eight, and they

769
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 5: finally kind of started throwing it into the middle later

770
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: in the second half of that game and started scoring.

771
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: We'll have to see if that's an approach they can

772
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: get to throughout the course of the game, because I

773
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: do think they have some skilled some skilled guys that

774
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 5: they can kind of put in the middle. But Man

775
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: Saint Peter's can pressure you at a really high level.

776
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 5: They can make you really uncomfortable. They throw different defenses

777
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 5: at you. It's not just the zone, it's like three

778
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: or four different zones that they can throw at you.

779
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: And that's kind of what makes them the chameleon team

780
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: of the conference. They can do different things.

781
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: It'd be tough in a tournament setting a quick turnaround.

782
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: And they've mastered that over the course of the year.

783
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 5: And I think but Sheer Mason has done a really

784
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: really good job of knowing when to swap to the zone.

785
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 5: And I've I've asked him throughout the year, like, hey,

786
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 5: when do you know when to go to the zone

787
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: when they go to the man, and he just says

788
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 5: it's a feel thing, Like there's no secret formula for him.

789
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 5: It's a feel thing and he's had a really good

790
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 5: pulse on that all the season long.

791
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, it could be tough in a tournament setting.

792
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: The other game Sienna Mount Man. So when this before

793
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: this bracket came out last week, I said, I'm betting

794
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Sienna to win the conference tournament. They had Merrimack. They

795
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: they seemed to figure out how to attack that zone

796
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: and they really had Merrimac beat and they lost in overtime.

797
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: But now you know, they get Mount a surging amount.

798
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Team is playing really well. Now part of that is

799
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: with Mount one is teams have not made a three.

800
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean since February. First. Teams are shooting twenty eight

801
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: percent on super high volume because they will give up

802
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a ton of threes, but they have a solid defense,

803
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: will press some. They do have some turnover issues and

804
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: they can't shoot free throws, but they're playing better. They're

805
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: at fifteen to one. And then you have the Sienna

806
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: who I love. I love Gavin Dodi and when clicking

807
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: this is the best offense in my opinion, in the league.

808
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: But you now have this wrench that got thrown into

809
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: everything with Antonio Chandler, who I think is super important,

810
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: especially if they were to face Merrimac. I think he's

811
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: like really important against the zone, and you know they

812
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: can use him in the middle. But this is a

813
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: team they're really good in the mid range. They just

814
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: can't they if they could just start making threes. And

815
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Brendan Coyle. Now, he

816
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: hit five threes in his last game, but this guy

817
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: who was like a forty percent three point shooter last

818
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: year hasn't. He can't make a three this year. But

819
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: now without Chandler, you need Coyle to step up, and

820
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: he's a different kind of player. You needed to make threes,

821
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: but that really hurts your depth. And this is you're

822
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to win what three games in four days.

823
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: This is a team that already wasn't deep, and now

824
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: like if Chandler doesn't come back, I mean, would are

825
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: they even going like they're just gonna play five guys

826
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: like they don't even I think in their final game.

827
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 5: Will probably play You'll see a little bit of Jones,

828
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 5: I'm sure, but it'll mostly be the main five.

829
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yes, did you just mentioned two freshmen?

830
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: So like it's that could be problematic in now. Fortunately

831
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: for them, they do play slow, so that helps a

832
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: little bit, but that really hurts their death.

833
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: Man. If Brendan Coyle just hits a couple threes, like

834
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 5: the Sienna is seven to zero MAC games, when he

835
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: scores nine points, that's not a high Bardic clear.

836
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. And against Merrimac he went they lost by four,

837
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and then in overtime he was three of eighteen from

838
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: three in those two games.

839
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, that's just not a high bar to clear.

840
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 5: And he is a really talented shooter. I mean I

841
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 5: spoke to him last week for a story that's gonna

842
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: run on Wednesday morning on Mid Major Madness. I mean,

843
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 5: I think that he might be the biggest X factor

844
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 5: in the entire tournament because if he's because if he

845
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: starts hitting shots in Atlantic City like we know he

846
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 5: can and we've seen over the past two years, especially

847
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 5: last year, no one's gonna remember that he shot twenty

848
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 5: nine percent in the regular season because team teams don't

849
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 5: gard him like he's a twenty nine percent three point shooter. Yeah,

850
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 5: garden him because they know he's their only three point threat.

851
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: Last year they at least had Major Freeman that was

852
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: another three point threat, even though he didn't shoot at

853
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 5: a very high clip.

854
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: Well, instance, he comes even more important if there's no chandler.

855
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's a chandler is a form of offense.

856
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: Good trick earlier in the was a form of offense.

857
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: But that was obviously a risk inherently with with his

858
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 5: with his knees. But you've got a bunch of kind

859
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: They really need Coyle and they probably also need Dody

860
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 5: to hit outside shots and that's not his game. But

861
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 5: Jerry McNamara has been imploring Gavin Doty to shoot more

862
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 5: threes throughout the year, and he's been doing it. He

863
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 5: absolutely had. I mean he took ten in the last

864
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: two games.

865
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be huge to get some three point production

866
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: from want.

867
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: He's wanted shows to shoot more threes too. He took

868
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: twenty seven threes in conference play after taking five and

869
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 5: non conference play.

870
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is definitely one of their weaknesses.

871
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: The Mount has been forcing more turnovers recently. That's not

872
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: something that Sienna necessarily struggles with, but it was something

873
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: that the Mount had really really struggled with. Mount's turnover

874
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: margin was at the very bottom of the sport and

875
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 5: still near there, but they've turned they they've kind of

876
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: been a little bit better with that. Recently, they have

877
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: Luke Mceelden, who to me is one of the few true,

878
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: like full size big men in this league. And we

879
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 5: saw Trey Devau play really well. They need ak Kebay

880
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: at his full health. Akkeba, there's no update as of

881
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 5: Monday night on him. I'm waiting to hear from Mount

882
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 5: Saint Mary's on that. I'm not sure I'll know anything

883
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 5: on Akkeba until Saturday. I didn't know about Carmelo Pacheco

884
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 5: until fifteen minutes before tip off of the MAC Tournament

885
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: last year, so who knows what we'll know about that.

886
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: But they need him to make a MAC Tournament run

887
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: because he he might be the best defender in the conference.

888
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: He's up there in that just simply for what he's

889
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 5: able to do on the ball, off the ball, and

890
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 5: on the glass.

891
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Now just turns it over way too much.

892
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 5: I mean, they are it's what they do, like.

893
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: That's probably gonna kill them.

894
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 5: I talked to Donny Lynd after Saint Peter's after I

895
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 5: lost Saint Peter's and I was like, like, you know,

896
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: like with this team, like you're gonna turn it over

897
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 5: a lot, So like, how can you work around that,

898
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: and he was kind of like, well, like, we know

899
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 5: we turn it over like we're It's not like we're

900
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: not like trying to budget for those like we're we

901
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: are trying to cut down the turnovers. And they when

902
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 5: they don't turn it over at a rate that's like

903
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 5: twenty five, that's like twenty three percent, Like they're actually

904
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: good when they when they turn it over like twenty one,

905
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, anything like that, they're winning games, but they

906
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 5: just have too many games where they're turning it over

907
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: way too many times.

908
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: So let me ask you us, who do you think

909
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: comes out of the bottom half.

910
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 5: If Keve's healthy, I think I would maybe slight lean.

911
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Mount and especially if Chandler's out.

912
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just find it hard to believe we're gonna

913
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 5: have a mac a Chalk mac tournament.

914
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would the Chalk would be surprising.

915
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 5: Having said that, I do think Merrimack is the most

916
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 5: likely champion. They are as complete in terms of their

917
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: health assuming Google Kazi's healthy, as anyone in the league

918
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: right now, and they were the best team all regular season.

919
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Well, from a betting perspective, I wanted Sienna. I can't

920
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: do it at plus three fifty, especially without with the

921
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: uncertainty and Chandler. If you're looking for a long shot,

922
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: I think the only way to look is Iona, because

923
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Quinnipiac and Maras have they're not maybe not fully We

924
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: know Maris isn't fully healthy. Quinnipiac might not be. Iona

925
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: just matches up really well with Merrimack. They'll already have

926
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: played a game in that gym. Maybe that could be

927
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: beneficial to them, but they have the shot makers. They

928
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: really seem to understand how to attack that zone. That's

929
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: such a tricky matchup for Merrimack. They look for a

930
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: long shot like twenty to one ish on Iona. That's

931
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: where I would look. I'm still gonna stick to my guy.

932
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Siana wins it, but I don't

933
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: have any conviction now without Chandler. Sam, I appreciate you

934
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: taking Look.

935
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: I've said this before. Whatever you think you know about

936
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 5: the conference, throw it all out the window. This was

937
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 5: in my lead to the MAC season preview this year.

938
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: It was like the number one rule of the MAC

939
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: And this is the last time I'm going to be

940
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 5: able to call it the MAC before the conference changes

941
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: the name. So this is the last time.

942
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: I got to say.

943
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 5: The number one rule of the MAC is that nobody

944
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 5: knows anything. And I know I just talked for forty

945
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 5: minutes about it, but I wouldn't discount Quinnipiac in terms

946
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: of just like if you want a team that's not

947
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: meryor MAC or Sienna to win it. If Monroe is back,

948
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: which I'm assuming he will be, I haven't heard anything

949
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 5: on that, but I'm assuming that he probably will be.

950
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 5: There's gonna be some desperation there, no doubt it's his

951
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 5: last opportunity. They're as talented as any team in the conference.

952
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if they came out and got

953
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: the job done. Really, I don't think there's no come

954
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 5: that can surprise me.

955
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: I know I've said winning it would surprise you.

956
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 5: Yes, Manhattan winning it would surprise me. Any of the

957
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: teams playing on Thursday, it would surprise me if they

958
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: won the tournament.

959
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm good. I wouldn't be surprised if Iona want it.

960
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, Okay, I get that I would.

961
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: I don't think I'd be surprised by that either, just

962
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: because like it's agreed, but yeah, I would.

963
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: I would.

964
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 5: I would pick Merrimac, if I had a if I

965
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: had to, if you put a gun to my head, Okay,

966
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: that's why.

967
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: That's why I picked in the Jiro got it all right?

968
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Well, Sam, I appreciate you taking the time to join me.

969
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: Make sure you follow him on Twitter. Does a lot

970
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: of great work, but most importantly throughout the MAC tournament,

971
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: that's Sam underscore Fetterman. No one will be closer, no

972
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: one will be covering it better. And if you need

973
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: updates on injuries, no one will be closer to that.

974
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: So who's who's warming up, who's not going to play?

975
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: All that stuff, and now we have to worry about

976
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: eligibility stuff. Just make sure you check them out on Twitter.

977
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Enjoy Atlantic City and the games at board Ball Call.

978
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I'll be following along. Appreciate your time.

979
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 5: Brother, Thank you so much.

980
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: DAC and Breeze will carry you out with the WCC

981
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: and SoCon.

982
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: Thanks Duck Duck and I ready to roll off the

983
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: bench start contributing here. We're going to get into some

984
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: of our favorite conferences of SoCon and the WCC. Let's

985
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: start with the Southern Conference. It's produced so many cinderellas

986
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: over the years, some great stories and this year in particular,

987
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: there are five teams I think you can make a

988
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: strong argument have a chance to cut down the nets

989
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: and to punch their tickets to the big dance with

990
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: the auto bid here and the teams are basically in

991
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: the market from plus one eighty five that's East Tennessee

992
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: State as the favorite coming in all the way down

993
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: to an eight to one Wafford and everyone in between.

994
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Kind of sandwich there at the top here. So I'll

995
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: run it down the entirety of the SoCon and then

996
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: we can get into the teams that we're worried about

997
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: for an early exit, you know, a potential champion, and

998
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: then also a Cinderella that may be worth sprinkling some

999
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: couch change on. As I mentioned, the Buccaneers plus one

1000
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: eight the number one seed in this tournament, followed by

1001
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: Furman at plus four to twenty five, Mercer at plus

1002
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: four seventy five, Sanford at plus five hundred and Wafford

1003
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: at eight to one. The Terriers there as one of

1004
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: the teams that are going to be interesting to discuss

1005
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: because they're two seed, but their price is the fifth

1006
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: team in this pecking order. Kenpom loves Etsu by the

1007
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: way has them sitting at one forty in the net

1008
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: ratings Wafford. By the way, if you want to get

1009
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: a better feel for the stretch between the first team

1010
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: here on the pricing board. In the fifth they're at

1011
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty eighth in kenpom. Then we got

1012
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: Western Carolina at ten to one, UNC Greensborough thirty five

1013
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: to one, Chattanooga forty to one, the Citadel fifty to one,

1014
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: and vm I bringing up the rear at ninety to one.

1015
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: The first round kicks off on March sixth, with the seven, ten,

1016
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: and eight nine games, including UNC Greensboro against VMI and

1017
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: Chattanooga against the Citadel. The top six all get by

1018
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: to the quarters, and then we know right away we're

1019
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: getting Mercer Western in that's that quarterfinal, as well as

1020
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: Furman against Stanford. Every game is going to be played

1021
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 3: at the Harris Cherokee Center in Ashville, North Carolina. All right, Tuck,

1022
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: let me bring in here. Let's start talking about some

1023
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: higher seeds that we're worried about potentially losing. I know

1024
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: that this particular league protects their top seeds a little bit,

1025
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: but clearly not as much as a Sun Belt or

1026
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: a WCC where they lay out the red carpet and

1027
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: then move teams all the way up to the semi finals.

1028
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: So talk to me about a team either from a

1029
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: metrics perspective, momentum, injuries, for whatever reason. Who are you

1030
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: concerned as for one of the top teams for a

1031
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: potential early exit.

1032
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: Well, let's take a look at the tournament for a

1033
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: minute here, and I want to talk about the talent

1034
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: of this league. I think NIL and the Portal have

1035
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: dissected and damaged this conference significantly over the last few seasons.

1036
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: It was just a few short years ago when Burman

1037
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: was knocking off Uva in the NCAA Tournament. If you've

1038
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: seen the clip, it looks like stan Van Gundy lost

1039
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 4: his life savings on that one. Samford putting a massive

1040
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 4: scare into Kansas in the NCAA Tournament. It just seems

1041
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: like this league, whenever players start to shine and get

1042
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: developed and stand out, they get plucked away by bigger schools.

1043
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: Result has now been what was once a top two

1044
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: or three mid major league, this league's fallen all the

1045
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: way to twenty third and Ken Palm. They're below the

1046
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 4: Summit League, They're below the big South and just barely

1047
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: above the A Sun. I think if it's not Etsu

1048
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 4: that wins this league, or maybe Mercer, they're staring a

1049
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: fifteen seed square in the nose here. I think Etsu

1050
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 4: and Wafford are probably the safest to pencil into the semis,

1051
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 4: although Wafford just the way they've played over the last

1052
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: ten games has been blackluster. Getting Kamari Holmes back is

1053
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: huge as he impacts the game in so many ways.

1054
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: I think Samford and Mercer can absolutely lose in the

1055
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: opening round. This league is wide open top to bottom

1056
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: regarding the top seven seeds. Even UNC Greensboro has wins

1057
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: over Samford, Firman, Western Carolina, and Wafford this season, and

1058
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: with Justin Neely capable of going off for thirty five

1059
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: and fifteen against anybody in this league. The amount of

1060
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: parody in the league causes the margins to be razor thins,

1061
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: and I think if you like Furman, Mercer or Samford,

1062
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: you might be better off running the numbers on a

1063
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: money line rollover. You're going to end up with three

1064
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: likely pick them games if not finding those teams in

1065
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: underdog situations. Honestly, as far as top seeds to worry about.

1066
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 4: I think anybody two through six could get bounced early.

1067
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be stunned if Wofford were to lose in

1068
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: their opening game, as long as it's UNCG that moves through.

1069
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: I could see Samford losing. I could see Mercer losing.

1070
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: There's so much parody. All three of these first round

1071
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: games are going to be very very close to pick them.

1072
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: Any one of them could lose.

1073
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1074
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: In terms of a top seed that I'm worried about,

1075
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: it's Mercer as the four. You know, a big part

1076
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: of these low major leagues. I'm not necessarily looking at

1077
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: your overall metrics. I want to know how you played

1078
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: in the month of February, and if you go to

1079
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: Bart Torvik's website, it's a free tool you can change,

1080
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: you know, the start date and end date to be

1081
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: able to look at windows of time. The Bears finished

1082
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: four and four down the stretch. Their defense fell off

1083
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: a cliff, though two hundred and ninety eighth in tourbick

1084
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 3: since February first in terms of their defense, they also

1085
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: looked vulnerable on the road, finishing one in four straight

1086
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: up away from home, with their only win coming over

1087
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: the Citadel which is one of the worst teams in

1088
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 3: this league. Baraka okoj is the offensive engine for Ryan

1089
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Ritter and this Bear team, but his entire game is

1090
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: based on driving, getting into the lane, making some shots

1091
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: inside of ten feet, and getting to the line a lot.

1092
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 3: He's very crafty. He hits you with the floaters, the

1093
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: step backs, the fadeaways, but when he takes somebody off

1094
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: the dribble, number one priority is, you know, initiating contact,

1095
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: getting that whistle and getting to the line. He takes

1096
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: nine foul shots per game, which leads the conference. But

1097
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: Mercer is drawing Western Carolina first. And here's what I

1098
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: like about the Catamounts and why I think this is

1099
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: an early upset opportunity. The Catamounts rebound the ball really well,

1100
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 3: and their defense has gone through a massive transformation. They

1101
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: were fouling way too much early in the year, giving

1102
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: up way too much in transition as well when they

1103
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: started eight and fifteen straight up. But they made some

1104
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: sweaks to their defense as well as their rotation, and

1105
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: in the final stretch of the season they finished with

1106
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 3: six straight wins, including win over this very same Mercer

1107
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 3: Bear team. First twenty three games, three hundred and twenty

1108
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: six in total defense the last six one hundred and fiftieth.

1109
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 3: That's a big glow up for a low major team

1110
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: to get things turned around. And it's only about an

1111
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: hour from Western's campus to Asheville, so I expect, you know,

1112
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of fans in the Purple and Gold. I

1113
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: want to hear your take on this, because you know,

1114
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: this is something that you focus in on a total perspective,

1115
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 3: where you look at teams that change the tempo they're

1116
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 3: playing with or make some tweaks on offense or defense,

1117
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it has a big impact

1118
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: on the total point scored. Western has to be one

1119
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: of those teams that you have your eye on.

1120
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: I mean, they're just so hot down the stretch. They've

1121
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: played really great offensive basketball. It just all seems to

1122
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: be coming together for this group, and they're peaking at

1123
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 4: the right time. And guys like Marcus Kelcords, Dan Berry,

1124
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 4: they can impact the game on offense so well. Really

1125
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: the defense has stepped up a little bit here the

1126
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: last five or six games of the season for Western

1127
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: Carolina as well, I think, and we'll get into this

1128
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: a little bit later when we talk about long shots

1129
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 4: you're talking about seventy two hour event determining who goes

1130
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: to the NCAA tournament. At some point you want to

1131
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: be riding the hot hand. And Western Carolina is a

1132
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: team that has been playing incredible. They've been beating good opponents.

1133
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: They swept East Tennessee State in the regular season. I

1134
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: think that the Catamounts are very dangerous in this tournament.

1135
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: All right, who do you actually think is going to win?

1136
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: Or do you think potentially it's the best combination of

1137
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: the potential to cut down the nets and the price.

1138
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I do think ETSU has been the best

1139
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: defensive unit in this conference, and I think that will

1140
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: travel here. Their first in overall defensive efficiency in the SOACON.

1141
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: They're tops enforcing opponent turnovers, best at blocking and altering

1142
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: shots and creating opportunities on the other end. You look

1143
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 4: at the guys they brought in this year, Cam Morris,

1144
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: Brian Taylor, Blake Barkley, Jalen Smith. This is what these

1145
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: guys were brought in for was to win this tournament

1146
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: and get ETSU back to the dance. They have the

1147
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: most top end talent in the league. Do the Buccaneers.

1148
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: They have a clear path, but This is a wide

1149
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: open tournament, so there are six or seven teams that

1150
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: could win this entire thing, but my money's on etsu

1151
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: to win it.

1152
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Wafford at eight to one

1153
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: as the two seed here. Wafford knocked off all the

1154
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: top competition this season at least once, handing East Tennessee State,

1155
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: Mercer and Stanford regular season losses, and three of their

1156
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: late season losses in SoCon play came without Homes in

1157
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: the lineup, who was sidelined due to injury. Not only

1158
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: is either leading scorer with over nineteen points per game,

1159
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: but he's an invaluable rebounder, one of the best rebounding

1160
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: guards in the country nearly six rips per game, So

1161
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: having him back really helped to keep opponents off of

1162
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: the offensive glass. With them back at full strength, I

1163
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: think Kevin Gildner is really going to be able to

1164
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: lead them at least to the SEMIS. I think it's

1165
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, a bit of a cake

1166
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: walk for them there, and then the rest of the

1167
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: b I think kind of comes down to familiarity and

1168
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: confidence from last year. They cut down the next as

1169
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: NETS is the sixth seed. Now they're up to the

1170
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: two seed here, and as I mentioned, in terms of

1171
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, making it to the semis, what I want

1172
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: is a team that will not beat itself, and Wafford

1173
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: has one of the lowest over rates in the entire nation,

1174
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: and according to Hasler Metrics, they were the tenth rated

1175
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: low major in college basketball in terms of performance away

1176
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: from home. You basically need to throw out for all

1177
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: these low major teams at this point, how they played

1178
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: on their home floor. It has little to no impact.

1179
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: You really want to zero in on how teams played

1180
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: on neutral floors and away from home. And because of

1181
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: that consistency with handling the basketball and having their top

1182
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: scorers back and healthy at the right time, I think

1183
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: Wofford is undervalued here. I'm surprised to see a two

1184
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: seed graded out at eight to one, fifth in the

1185
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: pecking order. I think there's a lot of positive stacking up.

1186
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go ahead and take a shot there.

1187
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: Now we talked about Western, they're your pick. As I

1188
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: call it, the roulette chip. You're trying to call your

1189
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: number here on the table. Twelve to one is a

1190
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: pretty good payout. Ten to one in some markets. Always

1191
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: important to shop around get the best number possible to

1192
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: extract value out of it. I already made a quick

1193
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: case for their defense playing so much better, But you

1194
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: also think their offense has an opportunity to carry them

1195
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: at the right time. I think so.

1196
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: I mean, just such a hot team down the stretch,

1197
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: they swept Etsu and the regular seat unlikely. If they

1198
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: were to advance past Mercer, who they just beat last week,

1199
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 4: they would play the Buccaneers, who they've beaten twice already

1200
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: this season. This is the best offensive rebounding team in

1201
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 4: the conference. Abdelaiyh, Fanta Caaba and a Tayshaun Smith or

1202
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: Magnets on the glass again, Cord Stansbury and Marcus Kell

1203
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: can go for twenty points against anybody in this league.

1204
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 4: This team is hot right now. Again, in a seventy

1205
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: two hour event where you've got to win three games,

1206
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 4: I want to bet on the hot hand. So I

1207
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: definitely think there's value in Western Carolina. I also do

1208
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: like who you plan to talk about as well, so

1209
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 4: I'll be interested to hear your breakdown on them.

1210
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: All right, you and c Greensboro seven seed thirty five

1211
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: to one. Let's talk potential path here for a second. VMI.

1212
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: They beat him. Wafford, they beat him and put up

1213
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: ninety nine points. Samford up next after that they beat

1214
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: him by seven at home, and then finally Etsu it

1215
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: was a three point game with under five minutes to

1216
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: play the last time out between the Spartans and the Buccaneers.

1217
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: So I view this as have they shown it absolutely

1218
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: and also specifically they can make three pointers at an

1219
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: incredible rate. You know, they have guys shooting over thirty

1220
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: eight percent from long range. They can tickle to twine

1221
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 3: from distance. They also get to the line a ton,

1222
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: and they have justin Neely. He has six twenty to

1223
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: ten double doubles. He's the best player that you haven't

1224
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: watched this season as a casual college basketball fan. He's

1225
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: great at getting opposing bigs and foul trouble as well

1226
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: if he's healthy. And I need that report closer to

1227
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: the tip off of this tournament to be able to

1228
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: punch it in because in his last game, limited minutes,

1229
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: there's no publication you know that's gone on the record

1230
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: as to why he played so few minutes in that game.

1231
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: It wasn't foul trouble. They certainly needed him on the floor.

1232
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: Is he injured. Is he banged up?

1233
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: Are they saving him?

1234
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: Because if he's a go, if he has the full

1235
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: green light, I think thirty five to one is worth

1236
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: a shot on you And see Greensboro, As I said,

1237
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: I want to see proof that you can play with

1238
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: the best teams in the league, and they've done that

1239
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: for the majority of this season. What's your take on

1240
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: a team that's clearly unbalanced, you know, in terms of

1241
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: their performance. You know, it's been uneven at times. And

1242
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: to win this many games in this many days, you're

1243
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: asking for a lot. But thirty five to one, if

1244
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,479
Speaker 3: you get into the finals, obviously it's a printing press. Yeah.

1245
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 4: And I mean you just look at a team that

1246
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: struggled early on in the season, trying to get acclimated

1247
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: to the system and the new players that came into

1248
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: the program, justin Neely very well, maybe the player of

1249
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: the year in the Southern Conference this season, and they

1250
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: should not have any trouble with VMI. And I just

1251
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: look at a group that's at this price point, a

1252
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: team that has shown that they can beat teams like

1253
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: Furman Wafford Western Carolina this season. They have pieces that

1254
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 4: can make a run in this tournament. I don't think

1255
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 4: that any of the top four seeds are unbeatable truly,

1256
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 4: and so you're looking at a price point. You're looking

1257
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: at a team that'll have an opportunity to win a

1258
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: couple of games and get to the final, and then

1259
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 4: you'll be able to assess where you're out on the wager.

1260
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: Thirty five to one is absolutely a play. I think

1261
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: these guys will have an opportunity to play a really

1262
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 4: close game against Wofford.

1263
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: There's no reason they can't.

1264
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 4: They can't beat Wofford, so they've already done it recently,

1265
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: two weeks ago. I think that Greensboro will have an

1266
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 4: opportunity to give themselves a chance to win a game,

1267
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: and then at that point he'll be in an equity

1268
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: position on the wager. So thirty five to one with

1269
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 4: the best player in the conference, a team that's been

1270
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 4: hot down the stretch, I think it's a value play.

1271
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: We now turn to the going away party for Mark

1272
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: Few and his Zags, the final ride in the WCC

1273
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: for the conference tournament before they head off to the

1274
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: Pac ten, twelve sixteen, whatever they're going to end up

1275
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: calling it. They're going off as the favorite here. Gu

1276
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: minus one fifty five, followed by Saint Mary's plus two thirty,

1277
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: Santa Clara plus six fifty and then things get really juicy.

1278
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty to one for San Francisco, one

1279
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy one for Oregon State, one hundred and

1280
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: eighty to one at for Seattle Pacific, and Wazoo to

1281
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: fifty to one at Loyola Marymount eight hundred to one,

1282
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: as well as Portland eight hundred to one, Pepperdine eight

1283
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: hundred to one, and one thousand to one if you're

1284
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: feeling extra spicy on the Tareros of San Diego a

1285
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: very unique tournament setup. We've talked about this for years

1286
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: and they've done so much to protect their top teams

1287
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: and send their best teams to March Madness, and it's

1288
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: really worked out because what they do is they have

1289
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: teams clustered in packs of two. For the buys, the

1290
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: Zags is the one seed. They split the regular season

1291
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: crown with Saint Mary's, but thanks to a two and

1292
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: zero record over Santa Clair as a tiebreaker, they go

1293
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: off as number one. They're paired with Saint Mary's. They

1294
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: immediately move up to the semifinals. Then you have Santa

1295
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: Clair and Oregon State with the bye to the quarters,

1296
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 3: San Francisco and Pacific with a bye to the third round,

1297
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: Seattle and Wazoo a bye to the second round, and

1298
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: then we open with Portland versus Pepperdine and Loyol versus

1299
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: San Diego in the first round. All games played in

1300
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: the Orleans Arena in Paradise, Nevada, just outside of Las Vegas.

1301
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: All Right, the format here doesn't exactly work because I

1302
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm necessarily concerned about the top seeds,

1303
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: whether it be Saint Mary's or the Zags losing early.

1304
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: But if you had to put a spin on a

1305
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: team that you know you're concerned about how they're playing

1306
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 3: headed into the WCC, where do you land there? Duck?

1307
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 4: Well, you know, this is kind of a fun format,

1308
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 4: and this is the originality of the format. West Coast

1309
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: Conference has been doing this for years. The Sun Belt

1310
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: has take a lot of flak this year for their

1311
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 4: tournament format mirroring this one, but this is kind of

1312
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: where it all started, and that format really necessitates the

1313
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: favorites not seeing an early exit. I like this format

1314
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 4: in this league because it rewards the success in the

1315
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 4: regular season, and the league is top heavy, so don't

1316
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a lot of concerns about

1317
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: a top seed early exit. However, if you look at

1318
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: the bottom of the bracket and the teams that will

1319
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 4: be playing early. Pepperdine swept Portland and just defeated Wazoo

1320
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 4: last Saturday. We all know about the up tempo style

1321
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: and they've scrapped playing defense and the offense for the

1322
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 4: Waves has adjusted nicely to it. These guys can absolutely

1323
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 4: win two or three games in this tournament. It could

1324
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 4: end up playing San Francisco later on in the tournament.

1325
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: We saw Pepperdine do this exact same thing last year

1326
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 4: where they defeated Portland, Oregon State, and Santa Clara in

1327
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: this event after going just four and fourteen in the

1328
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: regular season in league play. Others of note, though, you know,

1329
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 4: Pacific is just really struggling down the stretch. They're too

1330
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: reliant on Elias Ralph and TJ.

1331
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: Wayne.

1332
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,959
Speaker 4: Right, these guys have lost six of eight coming into

1333
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 4: this tournament, and they could also could have lost against

1334
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: Loyola Marrimont. They were down by ten in the first half.

1335
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: They mounted a comeback. I would say, you know, you

1336
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 4: look at San Diego, Loyola, Marrimount, Seattle. Any one of

1337
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 4: those teams can beat Pacific so early exit A team

1338
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: that might bow out earlier than expected, I would say,

1339
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 4: is Pacific.

1340
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, As I mentioned, worry is a strong word. You know,

1341
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: could Santa Clara upset Saint Mary's of course, you know,

1342
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: Saint Mary's is comfortably in the field, looking at probably

1343
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: a seventh seed. If they were to go ahead and

1344
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: win this thing, beat Santa Clara, beat the Zags, potentially

1345
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: they could push up to a six. It's not necessarily

1346
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: a desperation situation. But Santa Clara is playing with desperation

1347
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: because they're one of the last four teams in the field.

1348
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: By most projections, They're going to draw the winner of

1349
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: Seattle against Pacific. They drilled the RedHawks and Tigers by

1350
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 3: double digits in all three games. They split with Saint

1351
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: Mary's this year, winning by eight in a low scoring

1352
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: game at home, and then at the rematch in Maraga,

1353
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: they got away. You know, it got away from them late,

1354
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: and you know it was kind of a game for

1355
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: the gals where everything was clicking offensively. They end up

1356
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: losing that game eighty six sixty seven. Santa Clara can

1357
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: absolutely beat SMC in my opinion, even you know, Evan

1358
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: Mia has a conference semifinal between the two of them

1359
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: graded out in a hypothetical matchup as the Gals lay

1360
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 3: in three and a half. So that's just giving you

1361
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: a bit of a feel for what the market is

1362
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: going to point to. I lean towards taking the points there.

1363
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: I think clearly, you know, if Saint Mary's has their way,

1364
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: it's going to be a lower scoring game, and Santa

1365
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: Claire has proven that they can win a lower scoring

1366
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: game against the Gals, as they did earlier this season.

1367
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 3: So in terms of an early exit, I'm looking straight

1368
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: past Mark few in you know, the Zags, but Saint

1369
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,959
Speaker 3: Mary's I think you can make a case for it. Also,

1370
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 3: the emotion coming off of that final regular season game

1371
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: against the Zags, winning on their home floor, playing basically

1372
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 3: a perfect forty minutes of basketball, that's got to feel great.

1373
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: It's got to be a little bit difficult for Randy

1374
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: Bennett's team not to feel good about themselves and potentially

1375
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: take their foot off the accelerator, even if it's just

1376
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: the first ten minutes against Santa Clara. The Broncos are

1377
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: good enough to take advantage of a team kind of

1378
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: sleepwalking early against them. Any thoughts there on that side

1379
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: of the bracket, I.

1380
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: Mean, it's going to be such a fascinating matchup. I

1381
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: hope it's Santa Clara and Saint Mary's and Santa Clara

1382
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: has a team that's played their way onto the bubble

1383
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 4: and I think they need to win a couple of

1384
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 4: games here in this tournament to solidify their position. But

1385
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: very very dangerous team offensively, Herb Sendek. Herb Syndek has

1386
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 4: his guys playing really really good basketball and they can

1387
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 4: absolutely they're a team that could win this whole thing

1388
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 4: if they were to get hot and you have the

1389
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 4: right situation fall into their lap. But it's really a

1390
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: three horse race. I think it's them, Saint Mary's and

1391
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 4: Gonzaga that it comes down to. But yeah, it should

1392
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: be really fun to see how this plays through into

1393
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 4: the late stages of this tournament.

1394
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 3: For who I have win it, it's boring, it's not sexy,

1395
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: But this price is not right minus one fifty five

1396
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 3: give me the Zags there. Mark Few has won eight

1397
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: of the last ten WCC Conference tournament championships. They avoid

1398
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: Santa Clara and the semis they're going to get as

1399
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: we mentioned San Francisco or Oregon State. That's a red

1400
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: carpet to the title game. In my opinion, grahamy Kay,

1401
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 3: by the way, was in desperate need of a break.

1402
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: His usage and minutes absolutely spiked later in the season

1403
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: when Huff was out. Now you get him with a

1404
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 3: full tank, I think he'll be ready to roll. No

1405
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: one can make a shot outside of him. Against Saint

1406
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: Mary's in that regular season final, which was already a

1407
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: bear trap to begin with. You know, SMC plays their

1408
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: balls off. The rest of the team not named DK

1409
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: shot fifteen for forty two from the floor. They were

1410
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: drawing dead when they have a Knight. That was that

1411
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: disastrous shooting from the field. But Dock, I'm gonna put

1412
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: this out here for you a trivia question. Do you

1413
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 3: know the last time the Zags did not play in

1414
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 3: the WCC title game? You?

1415
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 4: Was it two thousand and one.

1416
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: I'll put it to you this way. Michael Jordan was

1417
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: still playing basketball for the Chicago Bulls and the National

1418
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: Player of the Year was Tim Duncan at Wake Forest.

1419
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 3: So give it another shot ninety six the ninety six

1420
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: ninety seven season just incredible. I mean, death taxes Zags

1421
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 3: in the title game and back to Evan me As

1422
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: projections by the way, and why I like laying the

1423
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: minus one fifty five and tye my money up for

1424
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 3: a few days. A Zag Saint Mary's title game would

1425
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: probably be the Zags minus two and a half minus

1426
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: three rain that money line range at minus one fifty ish,

1427
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: So I'm basically getting the same thing if you know,

1428
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 3: I ended up waiting and it was Saint Mary's. But

1429
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 3: if it's Santa Clara against Mark Fuse Boys, the Zags

1430
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 3: will probably go off at you know, minus six and

1431
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: a half minus seven. Now you're getting into closer to the

1432
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: minus three hundred minus two to seventy five range for

1433
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: a money line play there in the title game, So

1434
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna get value. I think it's worth it. You're

1435
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 3: either going to get the same or you're gonna get

1436
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: a decent haircut in terms of the money line price.

1437
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 3: You also like the Zags here, anything you want to

1438
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: add in terms of why they should be the pick

1439
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 3: to cut down the nuts, I.

1440
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 4: Mean it just looks like free entry into the final

1441
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: for them. I really don't see San Francisco or Oregon

1442
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 4: State threatening to knockoff Gonzagi here in this situation. While

1443
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 4: the Dons did almost defeat them earlier this season, both

1444
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 4: Huff and Grand Mek we're out and the Dons hit

1445
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 4: fourteen to three is very unlikely to be replicated here.

1446
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 4: For what's at stake for Gonzaga, I just do not foresee.

1447
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, I don't foresee any better price coming

1448
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 4: up here in this tournament with Gonzaga. Then we're going

1449
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: to get here pre flop. And I wouldn't be surprised

1450
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: at all if the Zags are three and a half

1451
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 4: four point favorites over either Saint Mary's or Santa Clara

1452
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: in the final, and so you're looking at a minus

1453
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 4: one ninety on the money line after that point. Anyway,

1454
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: I think at minus one fifty minus one fifty five,

1455
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 4: we're good here on Gonzaga. This is really the pedigree,

1456
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 4: it's the consistency with this group. It's their tournament to lose.

1457
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 3: I can only assume the only team outside of the

1458
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: Gails and the Zags that you could talk yourself into

1459
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: are the Broncos of Santa Clara at this price point.

1460
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 3: Is there any different way to attack it in terms

1461
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: of a rollover? It could be point spread, it could

1462
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: be money line, or you just fine with the plus

1463
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: six fifty that's enough to take a shot on.

1464
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you're looking at a long sh

1465
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 4: there's really not a lot here because you're talking about

1466
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 4: Gonzaga being twenty point favorites over whoever they face in

1467
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: the Semis, and if there were to be a team

1468
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: like Seattle or Pacific that would come up through the

1469
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 4: other side, you're talking about the Zags being eighteen to

1470
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 4: twenty point favorites over that group as well. What I

1471
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 4: think you could possibly do, if you like Santa Clara

1472
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: is you could look at the money line rollover rather

1473
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 4: than taking the six to fifty. They'll probably be about

1474
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: minus seven hundred or so in their first game, but

1475
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: then likely they're plus one seventy five or so in

1476
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 4: that matchup against the Gaels in the Semis, and then

1477
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 4: if they were to get to the final, it could

1478
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 4: be a plus two ninety or plus three ninety situation

1479
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: against Gonzaga. So if you do the math, you squeeze

1480
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 4: out much more value than just taking the plus six

1481
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: to fifty. You could probably money line roll over that

1482
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 4: into about eleven to one. That's the only other team

1483
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 4: I could possibly see conceivably winning this tournament outside of

1484
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 4: Gonzaga or Saint Mary's, So that could be worth doing

1485
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 4: something with Santata Clara three a three stage money line

1486
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 4: rollover to squeeze out a little extra value than the

1487
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 4: plus six to fifty. That's really the only other way

1488
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: I'd look as far as long shots.

1489
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: All right, full on, George Costanza, you want to get nuts,

1490
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: Let's get out Seattle one hundred and eighty to one

1491
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 3: as the seventh seed. As I mentioned in the SoCon

1492
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: portion of this conversation, it's all about your ceiling. How

1493
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: do you play when you're having your absolute best night? Now, granted,

1494
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna picture them doing it five days in

1495
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: a row, five straight games, But if they get an

1496
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: opportunity to play against the Saint Mary's and or a Gonzaga, like,

1497
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: do they have that special play in them? I think

1498
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: Seattle does, because let's look at it, Seattle, you beat

1499
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: Stanford on the road, they beat Washington at home, they

1500
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: took the Zags to overtime at the Kennel, and they

1501
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: astit home to Saint Mary's by two. That shows me

1502
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: right off the bat that one hundred and eighty to

1503
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: one does not necessarily line up with them playing their

1504
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: best basketball. And they have two dudes I can rely on.

1505
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: They got brain Meldonado, who's a flamethrower. He's got twenty

1506
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 3: eight points plus on three occasions this year, shooting thirty

1507
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 3: eight percent from three with a ton of attempts high

1508
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 3: volume there. And then will heimbrought one of the best

1509
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: wing defenders in the entire sport four stocks per game.

1510
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 3: And then former you know, Gonzaga June Sukio, who's a

1511
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: quality big who's put it all together a few times

1512
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: this year, including a twenty point night in that near

1513
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: upset of Saint Mary's. I like Seattle you, I think

1514
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: this is just a mispriced situation. I understand that this

1515
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: is priced to win the whole thing, not just to

1516
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: get to the title game. And you are right, it's

1517
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 3: going to be a huge number against the Zags, although

1518
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 3: I think there could be a little bit of market

1519
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 3: worry the fact that, you know, the RedHawks took the

1520
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 3: Zags two overtime on their home floor. If it's I

1521
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: mean any closer to fifteen or fourteen points and you

1522
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 3: get you know, a minus eleven hundred and twelve hundred

1523
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 3: something like that. On gu yes, it's going to cost

1524
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: you a lot, but if you have one hundred and

1525
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: eighty one ticket in your pocket on the other side,

1526
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: it's really just a liquidity kind of conversation because you

1527
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: should be able to extract as much money out of

1528
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 3: it as you want in terms of the overall risk.

1529
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: You know, and they survive Pacific and then upset Santa

1530
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 3: Clair on the way. Yes to the first question. I

1531
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: don't think they're going to have issues with the Tigers there.

1532
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: And maybe they catch Santa Clair looking ahead because it'll

1533
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: be their first game of the tournament. They're obviously knowing

1534
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 3: that they got to beat a Saint Mary's at the

1535
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: very least to be on the right side of the

1536
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: at large bubble conversation. So you know, they come in

1537
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 3: as a double digit dog. You know, maybe they end

1538
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: up going ahead and sparkling an upset there and from there.

1539
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 3: Really this is couch change one hundred and eighty to one.

1540
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: We're not advocating for a full unit. This is like

1541
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 3: a tenth of a unit kind of play. But all

1542
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you have some interesting options. As I said,

1543
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: I want to see what these teams did when everything

1544
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 3: came together, and Seattle, you showed plenty of plenty of

1545
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: fight this year, the playing against the ACC the Big Ten,

1546
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 3: winning games like that, winning you know, at least, you know,

1547
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: the taking to fifteen rounds against the Zags on their

1548
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: home floor. That's very impressive to me. This is a

1549
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: team I'm willing to take a shot on. Not a

1550
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: whole lot of intrigue in a league where the bracket

1551
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 3: is set up that you're going to have weak, you know,

1552
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: weary legs against fresh teams. But we've seen it play

1553
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: out in other tournaments, certainly in the big boy leagues,

1554
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: where it's rest versus rust kind of a situation, and

1555
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: maybe they get lucky and catch Santa Clara as sleep

1556
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 3: in one hundred and eighty one. I'm willing to find

1557
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 3: out what are your thoughts there on a super long

1558
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: shot to make it at least to the Semis and

1559
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know, at least the

1560
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: sports books forever's holding. Your action gets a little sweaty.

1561
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,440
Speaker 4: You know, Seattle was a team that was really motivated

1562
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 4: in the battle for Seattle. They played really well against Stanford,

1563
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 4: they played up really well a hair inconsistent late in

1564
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 4: the season, and they did battle some injuries and some

1565
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 4: guys that were out of the fold for a little while.

1566
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: I will say I think Seattle is probably the only

1567
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: team that's playing earlier games that I could possibly see

1568
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 4: making a run to get to the Semis. And so

1569
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 4: I think if you get to the Semis with Seattle,

1570
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: you'd be in an equity position in the wager. But

1571
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: it's going to require them doing something very special to

1572
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: win against Santa Clara and Saint Mary's. I mean it

1573
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 4: would be it would be very stun in monumental for

1574
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: them to get to the final one hundred and eighty

1575
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 4: to one. I mean, if they get to the Semis,

1576
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 4: you'll be in a good position to make a little

1577
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: money on the wager. So I could see it, But

1578
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: that would be the only long shot team that I

1579
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 4: would look at here. Everybody else is just so inferior

1580
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 4: to the top three.

1581
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: Last question before we get out of here and kick

1582
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: it back to Stuck and the guys. In terms of

1583
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: your postseason format, do you like what the WC does

1584
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: C does do would you like to see other smaller

1585
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 3: leagues do that to get a much higher change likelihood

1586
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: than chance of sending your best likely either your regular

1587
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: season champ or a runner up.

1588
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I like it in this league because it's

1589
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: such a top heavy league and you're rewarding success. It's

1590
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: so hard when you have this long, thirty game regular

1591
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 4: season that really matters, and you're trying to assess who

1592
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 4: gets in the NCAA tournament and the whole body of

1593
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 4: work matters, and then sometimes it just comes down to

1594
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 4: a three day event and a team goes cold and

1595
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 4: there they lose. And you have these crazy smaller leagues

1596
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: that are sending their seven seed or their six seed

1597
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 4: in the MIAK or the SWACK. It doesn't matter as

1598
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 4: much because no matter who wins that league, they're going

1599
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 4: to the play in round. But there are some teams

1600
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 4: that could be dangerous, like the Summit League, for example,

1601
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: is a league where you want to send your best,

1602
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: the Big South you want to send your best, the

1603
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 4: Southland wants to send their best, And so I could

1604
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 4: see some other teams adopting a similar format, maybe not

1605
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 4: to this extreme, but I don't hate your top two

1606
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: getting autobis into the semis. I think it rewards the

1607
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 4: regular season appropriately.

1608
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 3: All right, that does for the SoCon and the WCC

1609
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: back to you stuck.

1610
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