1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: My next guest is one of my favorites. This is 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: what it's called the long term relationships because we've known 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: each other the way back when she came back and 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: used to do samples thankful meals on the Steve Harvard 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Mourning Show when I was executive produced and co created 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Steve Harvard Morning Show, which Steve Harvey say the words 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: chef and traditionally it conjures up images of a big 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: white hat, a top, a restaurant chef. However, the recipe 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: for this dynamic chef goes against all traditions. Chef Jamica 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: is known for her bowl flavors and sassy personality to 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: say the least, my next guest. You love watching her 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: on the Food Network, the Cooking Channel and every win 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: she posts amazing recipes on my at Rashwan McDonald facebook page. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Please welcome my friend to Money Making Conversation, Chef Jamica. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: I love listening to you, can listen to you forever. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you. I appreciate that. You know, 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get those emails, you know, the text said, 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: hey Rischan, you know what you're saying, and people starting 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: to find the show, and uh, I'm so excited because 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: I just want to be consistent, and not only with 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: people come on the show, but people who I'll invite 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: back to the show. They really you know, you come 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: on the show, you kind of come on. Let sure 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: you hear about Richelle that I have a relationship. Maybe 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: do when you do the show? Go wow, this show 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: is kind of different. He has no agenda. He just 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: wants to promote and be happy and and tell people's 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: success stories and share those that information. And you have 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: a great story to share. That's why I always bring 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: you back on my show. Thank you, Jeff. Yeah, And 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean just listen to you. I'm like, he's telling 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: the truth. You can do it all. And people think, oh, 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: you can't have it all. Yes you can. You just 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: have to figure out your purpose. And a lot of 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: people like, oh, what's my purpose? It is whatever you 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: do to make somebody else smile. And for me, that's 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: through my food. I was pulling this to make people 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: smile with my food. And thank god, I can get 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: paid for it. I can get TV in doing it. 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: But everybody has put on this earth for a reason 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: and you just got to figure out what that is. 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: And yes, you can get paid very nicely for it, 43 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: but you can also be happy with what you do. 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that you do this show that people 45 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: can hear stories and from so many different walks of 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: life and actually put themselves in those shoes and say 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I can do this. Why am I not doing this? 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: Because they can do it, I can do it. So 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: that's why I just appreciate what you stand for what 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: you do. And I appreciate you having me on because 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: I get to tell my story and inspire other people 52 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: to do it, because I don't want to be the 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: only one to kitchen. Absolutely, absolutely, And the great thing 54 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: about it is that our relationship is over ten years 55 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: old and but we don't look at that's the good thing. 56 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Guess what life is good for both of us. But 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I think they they think that's health because we're happy 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: people and we don't allow we don't stay in stressful 59 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: situations and a lot of people do that. They're just 60 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: hanging there was bothering them, and they let they bother 61 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: bothering situations. Just take control of their lives and their 62 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: decision makings. And guess what they distressed. Grumpy people are 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: good people don't want to hang around them. Yeah, And it. 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Worry will affect you mentally, physically, emotionally. You can you 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: can look at people and tell when they're wearing their worry. 66 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: So we don't have time for that. Can't make time 67 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: or space that it was so funny. It was off air, 68 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: and I said, let's bring this story on air every Wednesday. 69 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: If you can't catch it on the Food Channel, you 70 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: can't catch your on the Cooking channel, can't catch your 71 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: on some national TV show. Well, every Wednesday she posts 72 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: amazing photos, a video, a recipe of something that she's 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: recommending that easy to cook, easy to prepare, easy to bake, 74 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: and one affordable too and affordable. And one time, you know, 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: you know what time is it going through my Facebook 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: for you posted what it was like People Magazine? Right, Yes, 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: that was my debut in People Magazine for the fourth 78 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: of July, and they called me out of blue, which 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: is so crazy, but I mean, people see you out there, 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: put your stuff out there, people will find you. And 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: they asked me to do a dessert recipe for the 82 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: fourth of July. So I did my ice cream sandwich 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: canpies and it's the simplest recipe but everybody loved it. 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: I think because it's so similar and it's ingredient you 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: having your pantry and your viewers. I mean, they just 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: loved it. I mean it was just basic pyro pie 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: dough and that you can buy in the store and 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: whatever jam or juggy you want, and I made it red, 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: white and blue, and it was just such an honor 90 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: to do that, and so many people responded so well. 91 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: So I hope everybody made it, and you can still 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: find it on there, and you can make it for 93 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: a Labor Day coming up or any time you want to, 94 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: any holiday coming up. And it's just so easy. That's 95 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: patted my recipes after being so simple, so easy, so affordable, 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Like who has time to waste in the kitchen? I 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: don't have all day for that. I'm a chef, but 98 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I make food for real people and real recipes. So 99 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: it was just such an honesty. So many people loved its. 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Nine people, nine thousand people. I went, Okay, you know, Rain, 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: that's a testament to your brand because people have to 102 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: believe that's that's a layer of credibility that comes with 103 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: those lights. You know, they've seen your brand, You've been consistent, 104 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and that's what I love about when we talk about 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: coming on the show, I asked you to do me 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: your favorite. So what you love? I said, I love 107 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the sponsor or promote a post about food. I said, 108 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, I'm giving you a slot. You give me 109 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: what recipe you want. And I posted, So every Wednesday 110 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: she post. And that's just a byproduct of that consistency. Bam, 111 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: you go. Wow, it's worth. It was worth, And I 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: love the comments to people have such great comments and 113 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: they tag other people like you need to make this 114 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: for me or I'm making this for you this weekend. 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: So it really does build a whole family of everybody 116 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: enjoying good food. I still love that. You know, it 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: was interesting about summertime. It's always uh tied to barbecue, 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a kind of annoying because I 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: eat barbecue yere in. So I'm trying to figure out, 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, you know, because people all got the great 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: barbecue recipe or something great. Okay, but I can eat 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: barbecue anytime, anywhere, and when bob a warm and you 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: don't know what the weather's gonna be, that girl any time, right, 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out, how does a food 125 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: that you eat year round only gets celebrated in the summer. 126 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's just an easy way to sell it. 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, growing up the South, I mean we 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: barbered you year round. It doesn't matter if it is 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: in the winter. You can still put that girl. But 130 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: you know what the way things are now, I mean 131 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: you can have indoor grills. You can find I have 132 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of recipes that are for the grill, but 133 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: you can also put them in the oven. I mean, 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: some people feel it's a sin to put some barbecue 135 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: ribs in the oven. It's as long as they taste 136 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: good and they're tender, does it really matter. I don't 137 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: think so. But I mean it's it's just something about 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: the summer and grilling. But I mean, the grill just 139 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: brings people together. You smell that grill down the street 140 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: and you know I'm going to their house because they're 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: cooking something good. And I love to do. I have 142 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: so many barbecue recipes, and I will say that I 143 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I do have some real skills on the grill. I've 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: developers over time, and I do not give up my sekrets. 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I love the way she was talking this years to 146 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: step back and okay, check yourself. Ah this is what 147 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I do. Don't let the don't let the chelf and 148 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: the TV station fool you. I got skills when I 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: agree with now absolutely, And ladies, we can be cute 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: on the grill. Don't believe that that only the guys 151 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: can grill. We can do our things too, So I 152 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: encourage all the ladies, pretty ladies out on the grill 153 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: any time of year. Do your thing. There you go. 154 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about some projects, because we're gonna go 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: back and forth, because this is a friend talking to 156 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: a friend, relationship talking to a relationship on money making conversations. 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Um every Wednesday coming up in the fall. Now you're 158 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna make a regular appearance on Doctor Oz. Yes. Now, 159 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: we did it all last season and Dr Oz is 160 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: so gracious and everybody loves Dr oz Um he's asked 161 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: me to come back every Wednesday. We take over the 162 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: last thirty minutes of his show. And it's called the 163 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Dish on Oz and it's myself, it's her, his daughter, Daphne, 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: she's a part of as well, and we just have 165 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: fun in the kitchen. We give you great recipes and 166 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: they're not all just healthy. And don't think that Dr 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: Oz is like, oh, it's got to be some killing 168 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 1: and it's got to be healthy. He just enjoys good 169 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: food and so I give him all of that. We 170 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: have cocktails, we laugh, we talk. It's so much, so 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: much fun and you just kind of let your hair 172 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: down and you just come to the table. So I 173 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: encourage everybody this fall. You have to check it out 174 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: d v RT. If you're at work, watch it on 175 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: your phone, do whatever you have to do with Every Wednesday. 176 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: You can see me there just dancing, having a good time. 177 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: I love that audience. I just love being out there. 178 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting by doctor Oz because you know, you're the 179 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: word doctor. He's built a career on being a medical expert. 180 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: And you've seen this show evolved the last few year. 181 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: Is evolved to a lifestyle show. A lifestyle show. So 182 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: when you get the call to appear old Doctors, what 183 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: were the first thought? Was that healthy concept running through 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: your mind? Or when when you got the call to 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: do doctors before you realize you know something, I can 186 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: just be me and you know what, that's exactly what 187 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: it is. Because I'm a classically trained chef. I mean, 188 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm traveled all over the world and I've cooked all 189 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: over the world. So when I got the call, I 190 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now the world can just see what 191 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: a different type of chef looks like. I don't dress 192 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: like what I don't. I don't feel like when people 193 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: seem they're like, you're a chef, you don't look like 194 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: a chef. What does that look like? I just look 195 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: like a woman that love to have fun in the 196 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: kitchen and give people good food. So when they said 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: we want you to bring your perspective to the kitchen 198 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and bring your your career beyond slaver and your southern 199 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: dishes and just bring the party, I'm like, that is 200 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: exactly what I want to do. And the party doesn't 201 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: always have to be deep fried and smother than eathing. 202 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: You can have a party and keep it light and 203 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: cute and fun, and then we can go for the 204 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: comfort food. So I love to give people just a 205 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: wide range and always pair something with a fun cocktail 206 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: on mocktail, because you know, it's always a party when 207 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: you have a good drink in your hand. So I 208 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: just love to just I'm the party. I am the 209 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: life of the party, and I'm My motto is life 210 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: is a party. So you have to live it like one. 211 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: So that's just what I bring every Wednesday. We know. 212 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: The fun part about hearing you that's a that's a 213 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: brand as a talent. You know, I can hear your 214 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: boss is so much stronger, so much more detail. And 215 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: because you know, opportunities to keep coming anyway, because we 216 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: all know we're just trying to get in the lane. 217 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: We're just trying to get out there. Yes, and then 218 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,119 Speaker 1: when you start getting a Doctors, you get a People magazine, 219 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: it starts giving you the confidence. Okay, I am. People 220 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: are recognizing that what I do is a reality because 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: we all have dreams. And that's the thing. People they 222 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: only see me with the Doctors and the People magazine 223 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: and like, oh, I want to do that too, But 224 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: they didn't see me starting out as an intern at 225 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: hotels in Atlanta and want to culinary school and in 226 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: the trenches, stand up late and catering parties as a 227 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: one woman caterer for parties of people of a hundred 228 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and two people because I couldn't afford the staff. So 229 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: you gotta everybody starts at one place and then you 230 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: just continue to go and grow, and that's how you 231 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: know you're doing the right thing because the money and 232 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: the fame and the accolades that comes last. So if 233 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: you're trying to do it for that, you're you're already 234 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: losing the race. But I started and I continued to 235 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: it because I just love feeding people and I just 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: love seeing people smile when my food shows up, when 237 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I show up or anything, or they say I major 238 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: when your recipes, and my family love it, like I 239 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: just love feeding people. So that's why I do it 240 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: every day. So you have to connect yourself to whatever 241 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: your purposes or something that you will do it every 242 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: single day just because you love doing it. And all 243 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: the other rewards everything comes after the fact that you 244 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: you once you put it out there. But we do 245 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: it everybody. We're talking to the Chef Jamiko. You're listening 246 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. Will be back. I need to 247 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: know about some juicy sliders. I need to nobody grilling 248 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: in the food. And we've got some TV shows that 249 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: we've got to promote that's happening in the fall. More 250 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: with Chef Jamika. You're listening to the Money Making Conversation. 251 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm your host with Sean McDonald. Hi, this is Rashan McDonald. 252 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to money making conversation, your show, and I said, 253 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: one more time, your show a show that I created. 254 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: I got great producers. I don't do this show by myself, 255 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: like people who will help me book to show how 256 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: people who helped me produce the show. I have people 257 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: who correct me when I make a mistake, because guess what, 258 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I make mistakes on this show. And they said, with Sean, 259 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have said that you should You should start 260 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: your show like this, And all those notes, all those 261 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: moments helped me become a better host, a better provider 262 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of information to people who listen to money making conversation. 263 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: And basically, I'm letting you know no one is too 264 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: old or too big to not be criticized or take 265 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: a note to make you better. That's an ego. Slide 266 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: your ego to the right, slide to the left. Accept 267 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: the responsibility that you can learn more if you accept more. 268 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: That's why I am who I am today. That's why 269 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: people come to my show because they're letting you know 270 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: the leap from the start to the end, or the 271 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: start to the middle of the start, and you're still 272 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning. It's gonna be a journey and those 273 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: journeys have to be told, and you have to hear 274 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: them to know that. Guess what one year later, two 275 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: years later, you might think that the ship has passed 276 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: you by. That is not the case. The ship will 277 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: never pass you by if you don't give up on 278 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: the ship or the dream or put a plant in place. 279 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: That's when key you have to put a plan in place. 280 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I guess she's on the phone again. She's back. Her 281 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: voice is silky smooth to day. Like I said earlier. 282 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, you know she's not the chef with the 283 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: big hat in the restaurant. Come out there, look like 284 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: they're conducting surgery back there on meat. That's not her. 285 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: She got she got swag as they say, she has 286 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: stopped like they say she has a lettle jam like. 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: They say, please, welcome to the show again, Chef Jamika. Yes, 288 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: And and everybody's like, oh, well, you know it's so funny. 289 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: People say, oh, well you're chef. What restaurants you work at? 290 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: What restaurant? I'm like, you don't have to own a 291 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: restaurant to be a show because I'm like Drake, I 292 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: did it without one. I became a TV person, oelit 293 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and TV host. I didn't have the big restaurant or 294 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: or the James Beards Awards. You don't have to have 295 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: any of that. And don't let about telling you have 296 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: to start with that in order to get to a 297 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: certain place. We are doing it with all just who 298 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: we are and what I have to offer, and that's it. 299 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: So I just I just thought how your show just 300 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: puts things in perspective for people. You take what you 301 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: got and you run with whatever it is you got. 302 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: You don't need all those other things, and I personally 303 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: have done that, and and it just allows me to 304 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: uh it. Really, I would just tell you this, chef 305 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: to because this show has been an lightning show for 306 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: me about what I've accomplished and the people that I 307 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: have affected over the years that I didn't realize because 308 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: I was just racing and people ask before advice. I 309 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: give me advice and they go, wow, thank you. And 310 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: then because I'm I'm gonna pretty straight for a guy, 311 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: if you come to me, I'm gonna say don't do that. 312 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say why are you doing that? I'll say 313 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: stop that. I will not because I'm not trying to 314 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: make money off of you. So my decisions that all 315 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: opinions I give to you are never driven by income 316 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: and driven by fact and driven by experience, and that's 317 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: really important. So when I look at what you're accomplished 318 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: in your career and the journey we've had together, as 319 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: as as people allowing me to produce, you allowing you 320 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: to come on the show and give advice. But it 321 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: all comes back to food now. Food now, the thing 322 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: has really started to pop off really strong that I've 323 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: started eating is grilled fruits. And then I missed a 324 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: boat on the grill food, real food. What do you know? 325 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: What you have? You never com miss a boat because 326 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: is what you started whenever you want to. But I 327 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of look at grilled fruit as it's people been 328 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: sleeping on it for way too long, and then like 329 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: grill fruit, what I want to cook for fruit for? 330 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: You are missing your life if you do not know 331 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: what the taste of a fresh like ripe pineapple or 332 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: a mango or watermelon with some charred grilled marks on it, 333 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: so it's smoky. When you put some heat to fruit, 334 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: it brings out the natural sweetness in it, so it's 335 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: even sweeter than what you you purchased it from. I mean, 336 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: it just takes everything you do to another level. So 337 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: when I'm sitting on my buffet and anything like that, 338 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I feel like grill fruit to me is the new tomato. 339 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't garnish my burgers sandwiches with a regular tomato 340 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: or pickle. I use grill peaches and grill pears and 341 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: grilled pineapples like it just brings this salty and and sweet, 342 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: kind of savory and sweet kind of world to it 343 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: that is just out of this world. You better get 344 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: on board. If you don't know what you're what you're missing, Well, 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm missing. I had to bring that up because I 346 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: guess because you know, I got the grill pineapple. I've 347 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: had that, you know, but I'd like to strawberries, grow watermelon, 348 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: grill peaches, um, grill pears Like I mean, that is 349 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: it takes things to new heights when you start just 350 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: grilling things you didn't even think you could grill. Okay, 351 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I got I got to time left because I gotta. 352 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I definitely want to give you 353 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: time to talk about two projects that I always have 354 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: a good time as Guy's Grocery Games. Don't you just 355 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: glove that show? Just yelling at the TV, like how 356 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: you haven't pay it up? I love judging that show. 357 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so much fun you watch on TV, 358 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: but it's so much more fun and just being in 359 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the actual grocery store. And it's such an honor to 360 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: be asked to be a judge. So September eighteens, I'll 361 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: be on as a judge for Guys Grocery Games and 362 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: the episode is actually honoring the Califier California Firefighters, really 363 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: given honor to first responders. It was just such a 364 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: pleasure being in the midst of all of them. And 365 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: then also on Food Network and everybody Halloween is coming 366 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: to Halloween. Let's talk about grocery and it's the Gingerbread 367 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: Showdown and this is the second season and I had 368 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: so much fun during the last season as a judge. 369 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: And if you didn't see it last year, you better 370 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: catch on one because it takes everything that you love 371 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: about Halloween, the gore, the just the fun and it's 372 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: the excitement of it. And they artists translate everything through Gingerbread, 373 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: so they just bring these themes to light. And every 374 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: episode is centered around a classic eighties horror movie. So 375 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: if you are eighties. Baby, this is your season because 376 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: it's so much fun to see some of your favorite movies, 377 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: like Wow, I can't believe they did that, and it's 378 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: all with gingerbread. And then at the end I get 379 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to give away as one of the the judges, giveaway twin dollars. 380 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Give it away now see you. I was I wanted 381 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: to bring back you. You just hear me say Jeff 382 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: Dimico when you're talking about God's grocery games, because that 383 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: game is such a natural to me because I do 384 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: it every time I go in the grocery store. And 385 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: you kind of do it, racing around and you're like, wait, woman, cook, 386 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: what don't we do? The clock is racing and then 387 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: you look you like, wait minute, I don't have the 388 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: money for all of this. You gotta put stuff back. 389 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: And it's just so crazy, like you know you're going 390 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: And that's why that's why it's such a popular show, 391 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: because we all do it. We're going the grocery store going, okay, 392 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: I want to make Lazagno, I don't want to make 393 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: I want to bake a cake. And you go down 394 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: these aisles and and go off the bid that you 395 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: forget something that you thought your head at the house. 396 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: You get to the house and it's not there. Suddenly 397 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: you gotta well just say kind of like, uh, mix 398 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: up or make it work? You make it work? To 399 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: make it work? Will grocery deliver to pick up? They 400 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to push a cart through 401 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: the grocery store like that. People are missing that arn't 402 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: form now. So just to go through the store and 403 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: see these contestants, they got so much heart and think 404 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: about it because everybody says on the account saying, or 405 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I could do that, I can make a burger, but 406 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: you have the clock racing against You have to whatever 407 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: the game is that guy throws at you, and he 408 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: comes up with the wackiest game. The tension of the 409 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: cameras in the lighting and the judges yelling hurry up 410 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: and get this, Like what would you do in that moment? 411 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Would you actually even produce anything on the plate. So 412 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: I tell everybody, if you want to talk trash, submit 413 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: yourself for the show because they're always looking for new people. 414 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: But it's just an adrenaline rush like no other new people. 415 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: And I get to taste and tell people what the 416 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: great things about everything they did. So I love my job. 417 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: New people who can cook, new people who can make. 418 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: Just don't go there just to just be shopping, going 419 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: in there trying to make some sloppy Joes. This is 420 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: not the TV show the best sloppy Joe anyone who's 421 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: ever tasted in that light and also hope that that's 422 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: what they ask for, Like, you know what, I ran 423 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: out of time, So I just made a shoppy show. 424 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: Like what do you think? What do you think? What 425 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: do you think? Judges? Get him off the show. We 426 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: need to find the tale. I will find it. Let 427 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: me say, I will find a nice way to tell 428 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: you about your sloppy Joe and then tell you the 429 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: exit left. But as a judge, I have to tell 430 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: you the good and the bad. But I'll tell you 431 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: how much I appreciate you coming through to do that. Now, 432 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: you're also doing something based in Atlanta. You're doing something 433 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: as a celebrity with some type of catering service that 434 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you're catering that you're building that out more in the 435 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: city of Atlanta. Well, you know, I started catering in Atlanta, 436 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: and I was catering for like different celebrities and athletes 437 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: and doing events. But the thing is now that TV 438 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: has taken off and I'm traveling so much, I really 439 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: don't even have the chance to do the catering like 440 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I used to. So when people email me like, oh, 441 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: can you do my wet and I'm like, well, that 442 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: day I got to do good more in America, I 443 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: can't do you wed, but I'd love it. I mean, 444 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: it's just such a blessing to start in one place 445 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: with my business that I built out from the bottom up. 446 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it was literally a one woman show and 447 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: to have so many people call and want me to 448 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: cook for their But now it's just it's television just 449 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: taken on a world of its own that I don't 450 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: even have the time to do it. So I don't 451 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: email me and ask any Katie a cousin win because 452 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: I can't do it no more. But I mean, it's 453 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: just such an honor to still know that people are 454 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: looking for that and that's where I started. I never 455 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: forget where I started. Also, that would have been closing. 456 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about you know, I don't 457 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: even consider it a leap of faith because of the 458 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: fact that you had talent. A lot of people have 459 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: to understand that when you make a decision like I 460 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: quit I be because I was very I was a 461 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: very talented comedian, you know, so I knew that if 462 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: I just stayed the course and just work hard, I 463 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: can make money. And what I did. But you have 464 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: a corporate job to pursue your passion of cooking and 465 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: leaped into it and that left result and you're becoming 466 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: a TV personality. Just talk about that experience a little 467 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: bit and share that journey a little bit with my 468 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: audience so they can know there are steps to it. 469 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: There is it is a leap of faith. But you 470 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: were talented. Well, I think it's it's a combination of 471 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things because I start it out cooking 472 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: with my grandmother and I just love just just what's 473 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: the the energy and the life that she brought to 474 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: the table with her food. And I saw that. But 475 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I know at that time, I never considered it as 476 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: a career. It was like, Okay, you gotta be in 477 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: an office. She got told a suit you gotta be professional, 478 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: like you gotta follow all these rules that somebody else said, 479 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I guess this is what I'm 480 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: supposed to do after I graduate from college. But in 481 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: all actuality. Cooking was the only thing that I was 482 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: good at no matter what. And I encourage people to 483 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do. Get a sheet 484 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: of paper and you write down the things that you're 485 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: you you like, the things that you're good at, and 486 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: then the things that you're great at. And cooking was like, 487 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: even if I tried to fail, it was like, but 488 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: it still kind of tastes pretty good like I was. 489 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: That was I was just great. And that is your gift, 490 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: that is your talent, that's your thing good stuff. That's 491 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: kind of like your side or your hustle or I 492 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: can do that just because I like to do what 493 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: I can do it for free. But what's you're great at? 494 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Like that is the path that you run on. And 495 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: it was just all signs lead to food for me 496 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: and then getting into entertainment. It was just as I 497 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: got my confidence in the kitchen, I realized I don't 498 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: want to be so serious in the kitchen. I want 499 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: to have some fun and I just let my personality 500 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: shine and people just just took to it. So, I mean, 501 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: you'll develop how you your your niche over time, but 502 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: it's really just sitting out what am I really great 503 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: at what do I love doing more than anything? And 504 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: you the arrows will lead to that sign. It will 505 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: just be like why didn't I think that? It will 506 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: come to you and you'll see that. And that's how 507 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: I decided to become a chef, just the one thing 508 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: I just didn't. Even if I failed, it was still 509 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: pretty darned good chef as usual. You're wonderful. Thank you, 510 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: And that's like you said. You cook at jown doctor 511 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Os every wednes you post on at Rashaan McDonald's Facebook page. 512 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: You keep winning and you know whenever you need something, 513 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: when they're making conversation and Rushan McDonald is here for 514 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: you