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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Needless bezales When if you know this happened, if well didn't,

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Speaker 3: is that guy that was the nineteen year old booty?

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Speaker 3: Is that does that player still exists.

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Speaker 4: Herefore what that nineteen year old booty?

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Speaker 5: You can get a drink, bring Greg what happened, and

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Speaker 4: It all down their little talk.

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Speaker 5: If we're going to criticize the guy who left for

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Speaker 5: his pompous arrogance, and we're not going to point out

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Speaker 5: the fact that the guy had that would replace them

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Speaker 5: had a temper chantrum because he's insisting that he knows

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Speaker 5: more about football than Bill Belichick and wants Bill Belichick gone.

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Speaker 5: That's to me a little bit of a disconnect.

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Speaker 4: You think you know who won and Bill you want

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Speaker 4: Bill out, and you didn't disagree.

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Speaker 3: I think I know enough to have an opinion that's

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Speaker 3: different from Bill.

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Speaker 5: As I as I said before, most of the stuff

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Speaker 5: I was saying, I've already said to you.

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Speaker 4: But this one was new.

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Speaker 6: Audrey says, great draft shows again. I will always listen

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Speaker 6: to you live my top choice, and Mike was even

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Speaker 6: funny this year.

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Speaker 4: Andre's always out my butt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is supposed to be my box, so

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Speaker 6: I don't know how anyone did even get in.

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Speaker 4: Get somebody's messing with Fred's box.

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Speaker 5: Please stop Fred's box alone.

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Speaker 4: All right, we are live here je Lets Stadium, Patriots unfiltered,

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Speaker 4: and yes, big day for you, Big day for Deuce,

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Speaker 4: Star Wars Day and Fred's out so I get to

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Speaker 4: Hopefully I don't scare anybody away.

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Speaker 5: So you boy Kyle Brandt is all dressed up in costumes.

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Speaker 5: Well let's preat why you guys are So.

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Speaker 4: I didn't go friend my solo, but I did wear

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Speaker 4: My grandma sent me a twenty five dollars check for

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Speaker 4: your twelfth birthday. I was like, I need, I need

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Speaker 4: If you're on video, you can see you in a

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Speaker 4: little old school kind of thing. I haven't though about

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Speaker 3: I got my my death star pop Socket.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's uh, that's what. That's not good enough.

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Speaker 4: But you know, hey, you got Star Wars questions, you

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Speaker 4: have Star Wars comments call in, and this is the

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Speaker 4: only day they'll be acceptable here while I'm in the

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Speaker 4: host chair. We're allowing it. Despite Paul, he's gonna you know.

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Speaker 5: Fred Spence, No, he does countless hours on this topic.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of too bad because Fred Fred like Star Wars.

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Speaker 4: I was hoping we could get him to dress up

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Speaker 5: He usually does something well, he's like Chewbacca every other day,

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Speaker 5: what like his buddy hair or what incoherent babble that

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Speaker 4: But you're like the Han Solo who actually understands it.

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Speaker 4: You can get through it. And they're like, no, I

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Speaker 5: I'm not part of this in any way.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, we'll be here for the next two

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Speaker 4: hours talking Patriots, getting going a little bit on the draft. Guys,

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Speaker 4: and Evan's been writing a lot of film reviews. We've

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Speaker 4: Rabel was announced yesterday as the what was it, the

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Speaker 4: of Fame. I did a big rant about it. Well deserved.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't necessarily think it would be the normal like late

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Speaker 4: It's too bad they couldn't do joint practices here and

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Speaker 3: great a great speech, I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the things I in Teddy Bruski's book

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't get along because Mike was exactly the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a little bit of a strange trade,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, most of them don't.

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Speaker 5: Get to write the final chapter exactly the way they

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Speaker 4: But it all worked out. Just a call from Bill. Ye,

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Speaker 4: the Green teamers here, Celtics. Are we all feeling pretty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was the appropriate That was the

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Speaker 4: And how are you doing, Evan? About the Bruns. We

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Speaker 3: I you know, I've always been a big Bruins fan.

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Speaker 4: We don't need to be labor it and thank you.

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Speaker 4: they wanted to do well, but it's it's just interesting

436
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 4: to learn about their journey to getting to this.

437
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why, like when I talk to them, I'm

438
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 5: less interested in what they think of them as players,

439
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 5: although obviously I asked those questions, but I'm more interested in,

440
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 5: you know, the personality and their interactions with their teammates

441
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 5: and the background.

442
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really I'm the same way. It's

443
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 3: just tell me the story of the player, because these guys,

444
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 3: there's no way that we're going to know some of

445
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 3: the details that these coaches are going to know. And

446
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 3: it's cool to hear a lot, you know. Demetrius Martin

447
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 3: told me that he tried to recruit Gonzales to Arizona

448
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 3: originally and didn't get them. He ended up committing to Colorado,

449
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 3: and then it just so happens that Martin ended up

450
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 3: getting a job at Colorado a year later and then

451
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 3: ended up coaching Gonzales for three years anyway, So it

452
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 3: just kind of those connections and how those types of

453
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 3: things tend to work out. And then tomorrow I got

454
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 3: a Jim Nagy on UH. He's gonna give me a

455
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: call and we're gonna talk about uh, Jake Andrews and

456
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: some of the Senior Bowl guys and see what he

457
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 3: has to say about the draft in general. As an

458
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: ex Patriot exec scout, I.

459
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Speaker 4: Interested to see what they say about Mapu because I

460
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 4: mean that was something I talked to his coach about.

461
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: He was a late call up and I made some impression.

462
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you should check out Evans piece that he

463
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 4: wrote about him today. A lot of focus on his

464
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: performance there in the practice. I think he only played

465
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 4: a half. That we got a little bit of an injury.

466
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that's a concern about the torn peck.

467
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 4: He said he should be available by training camp, but

468
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 4: otherwise very durable player played. He's the coach said, he's

469
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 4: every game, every practice. He was always there and got

470
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 4: a little bit of interesting bits to talk to. Eastern

471
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: Michigan coach Course City sou and Uh and the kicker

472
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 4: Chad Ryland both spent time there. I can't keep track

473
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 4: all these guys. There's too many, well, twelve is too many.

474
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: Also, the nil situation and all these guys training, like

475
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 3: Gonzales was two years at Colorado then or again, and

476
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: no one's at one school for all four.

477
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: Of my guys. I think we're at multiple schools.

478
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

479
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: I really like what the coach said about Ryland though

480
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 4: the quote I share what Paul was. He said he

481
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 4: came out of the womb mature, like he's just a

482
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 4: mature kid, unflappable in I mean, it's all the things

483
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 4: you would hope from a kicker. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

484
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just I haven't seen him and

485
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: I haven't met him, but he looked he looked really

486
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: young to me. That's why I'm trying to like kind

487
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 4: of circle all that back of like he's really mature,

488
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 4: but he looks like he's like fourteen.

489
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Speaker 5: It is one of those things that you'll start now

490
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 5: that you're starting to get a little older, Mike, you'll

491
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 5: stuck a little bit.

492
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: Just how much younger they all look. I appreciate that.

493
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 7: I already feel because when I started doing this, I'm

494
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 7: like the same age as these guys, maybe even younger

495
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 7: in some cases.

496
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Speaker 4: And now I'm just like, wait till you're older than

497
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: every professional athlete currently playing.

498
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't think you and I can talk quite yet.

499
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 4: Your veterans, your veteran age now though, Like if you're

500
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: playing sports, you're not the You're not the young bucks.

501
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 7: I am d or twise his age, Yeah, we're the

502
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 7: same age.

503
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: How I think about this a lot with with players

504
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: like Matthew Judah and I are roughly the same age.

505
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: Matthew Judah, Like, I'm just I'm just like what wait what.

506
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 4: Or you see these guys that were born in like

507
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 4: two thousands? Yeah, like I was, I was already an adult.

508
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just look at Judaan and I look

509
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: at myself and I'm like, where this Like I'm a

510
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: child in comparison size wise?

511
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 4: Yeah? Right?

512
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Speaker 5: And I just think Brandon Merriweather was the first guy

513
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 5: that I watched him, you know, when we had the

514
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: whole Dog and Pony show on the field when they

515
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: you know, Robin and Jonathan bring him out and I

516
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: was looking, I was like, he's a baby, and that

517
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 5: was what seven yeah.

518
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

519
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 5: So that's when it kind of like hit to me,

520
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 5: like I'm way I mean, obviously I was older than

521
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 5: all of them at the start, but I'm way older

522
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 5: than all of these guys now. And it's like, I

523
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 5: don't think anything more and more pronounced every year.

524
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Speaker 4: I don't think anything's as striking as that introduction, just

525
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: because I think it's usually a kid who isn't used

526
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: to that, like being put on the on the stage

527
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: and you know, and it's funny because the Q and

528
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: A they don't even like they give him a microphone

529
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: and no one goes near them. It's almost like the

530
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: audience it's so strange. Ask some questions like hello, Christian,

531
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: thank you for coming, Like, well, what do you think.

532
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 7: He's on the stage in front of like twenty people?

533
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 7: Maybe who are I mean, I've seen him twenty five

534
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 7: feet behind him.

535
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: I've seen him coll and Mac and just each one

536
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: of those guys. It's just like, oh my god, they

537
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: are babies and this is you know, you just you

538
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: forget that these kids seem so young, and yet they've

539
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: got to go into the NFL and deal with like

540
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 4: these giant, mean guys. I mean, I think key On

541
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: White looks ready to deal with it, but someone like

542
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: Christian Cane.

543
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 7: I was doing some stalking on social media also trying

544
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 7: to get acquainted with these players for my own pieces.

545
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 7: I saw tweet from the official Gardner High School lacrosse

546
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 7: account congratulating lacrosse a lum key On White for getting drafted,

547
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 7: and I can't find anything else about him playing.

548
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 3: Lacrosse in high schools.

549
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 7: So I spent way too much time this morning looking

550
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 7: at North Carolina high schools Tarty trying to find anything

551
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 7: I can find about him playing lacrosse, because everything is

552
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 7: just football and basketball. But if he played lacrosse, I

553
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 7: can't wait for people to drive that narrative into the ground.

554
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: Well it'd be like Jim Brown, right, I mean, they

555
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 4: had to change the lacrosse rules because if Jim Brown

556
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: he just put the ball over his chest and through everybody,

557
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: it'd probably be something similar.

558
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 7: But I saw a story about him too. He was

559
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 7: playing basketball once and like popped his ankle out of

560
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 7: place and just popped it right back in.

561
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Speaker 4: Oh.

562
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a very bad injury for him.

563
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean two years that kind of right, I mean.

564
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he that was part of the because Marco Coleman,

565
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: who some of our listeners, Evan, I bet you did,

566
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Speaker 5: Mike didn't. He had a long NFL career. He was

567
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 5: a defensive line coach at Georgia Tech and he's been

568
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 5: there for four years. But unfortunately he had left and

569
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 5: came back and he did not coach keon last year,

570
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: the year that he kind of broke out right, And

571
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 5: you know, so when I was talking to and that

572
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 5: I was talking to the one of the you know,

573
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: people in sports information, and we discussed that, it's like, yeah,

574
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: like the year that Marco was with him, he had

575
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 5: that freak. I think he slipped like on a T

576
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 5: shirt or something like that and dislocated his ankle and

577
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 5: basically cost him the whole season. He played sparingly in

578
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 5: about four games that that year, and it wasn't until

579
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 5: last year that he sort of re established the level

580
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 5: that he left ODU with. So that was a significant

581
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: injury for him, that that ankle problem. And I think

582
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Speaker 5: you know, Booty obviously has a significant. He's the only

583
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 5: one of the four guys that I'm doing profiles that

584
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 5: was at the same school all his whole career. The

585
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: other three were at multiple schools.

586
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was talking to some people on Monday

587
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: that the injury for for Kean White did come up,

588
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: and I was I didn't really know how bad it was,

589
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: But seems like before the injury, that explosiveness, that first

590
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: step that I didn't really see on film was more

591
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: present before the injury. So maybe as we've put some

592
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: distance between that even more, that that comes back a

593
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: little bit. But it's just really interesting to hear all

594
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: their stories, and a lot of these guys, I think,

595
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: you know, our late breakout players, you know, like a

596
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 3: guy like Tomoro Douglas is not even on anybody's radar

597
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: until the Malik Willis year a couple of years ago.

598
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: Even from high school where he's getting basically fcs and

599
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: Division two offers, he's not on nobody's radar, despite setting

600
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: records at his high school and receiving and receiving touchdowns.

601
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: But even then still it's just not it's too late,

602
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: you know, once he's a senior in high school, all

603
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: these recruiting classes are already filled out by that point

604
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: for a lot of these major schools. So he might

605
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: have gone to a Power five program had he been

606
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: a junior breakout in high school, but because it didn't

607
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: happen until fall the senior you know, they've already handed

608
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: out all of their scholarships and all of their roster

609
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: spots and things like that. So it's always interesting to

610
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: hear about the late breakout guys.

611
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 7: Especially with COVID too, Like a lot of these guys

612
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 7: had to deal with It's.

613
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 3: Such a factor.

614
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: It's another thing that like again, except for Booty, the

615
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: other three guys are like six years six six year

616
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 5: college careers for whatever they set out.

617
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them transferred because of that. I mean,

618
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: it's it's still an impact.

619
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Speaker 7: I mean, and the scouting side too, to scout try

620
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 7: and scout players.

621
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Speaker 4: When that's you've still got the massive guys coming in.

622
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, City sounds like twenty five. I

623
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: mean he's going to be twenty five, I think next month,

624
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: So he's a six year guy. Yeah. That and I

625
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: should say too, that was another interesting piece of my

626
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: conversation with with coach Creighton there in Eastern Michigan was that.

627
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: You know, he said, if I had two City Souths,

628
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 4: they would have played left guard and left tackle, and

629
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: we just felt we could he would be more effective

630
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: for us overall with what we run being on the inside.

631
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: So I know that that was some speculation over the

632
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: last couple of days. I mean, I don't want to

633
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: put too much into it because I feel like some

634
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: people see a report that City said could possibly play tackle,

635
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, they're like, well, that's it, it

636
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: all makes sense. Now he's going to be there new

637
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, but he's a big, powerful dude.

638
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: And the coach kept talking about just his kind of

639
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: surprising athleticism. For you know, somebody came from Canada, was

640
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: a defensive lineman. He said, we watched him. They were

641
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: I think you guys probably know the story. They were

642
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: on a bus of like forty Canadian kids driving around

643
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: to different showcases and camps, trying to, you know, show

644
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: what they can do to college coaches, and the Eastern

645
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: Michigan guys saw him and right away were like, he

646
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: can play offensive line. They were actually there to see

647
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: somebody else and they liked Citi sow Enough, who was

648
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 4: at the time a defensive lineman. They liked him enough

649
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 4: as his projection that they offered him right there to

650
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: be on the offensive line. And then, you know, I

651
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: think he paid like dress for fifty five games, started

652
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: like fifty three games. So you know, it's a double

653
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Speaker 4: edged sword. On one hand, You're right, he's old and

654
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: you know he's probably maxed out. But at the same time,

655
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of experience. So hopefully that maybe

656
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 4: helps accelerate his development process and you know, maybe he

657
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: does end up because I don't see it as a

658
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: monumental task to say if he can tackle that he

659
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: could be that third swing tackle this year, you know

660
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: behind Maybe let's say we start off with I don't know,

661
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: at right tackle, you know the vet and you know

662
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: Trump Brown, you know Riley Reef and Trent Brown, and

663
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: then wait for you know, do somebody get hurt, does

664
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: somebody break down, and then maybe at that point you

665
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: make a move. But I think an opportunity is there

666
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: if he could possibly make that switch.

667
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's interesting that you mentioned that he

668
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: that he played defense, because Mafi was a nose tackle

669
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: for two years at UCLA before they moved him over

670
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: and I think one of the interesting things about him

671
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: was he's like four hundred pounds playing nose tackle, and

672
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: then his coaches said that this year he really bought

673
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: in to the program, brought into being you know, a

674
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: pro pro so to speak, and lost like forty pounds

675
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: from diet and exercise and all that type of stuff.

676
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: So he was a big, big guy, played nose tackle,

677
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: was a regular contributor at nose tackle, and then switches

678
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: over to guard. And he just looks like Mike on Winnoo.

679
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: You know, he's built like Mike on win who moves

680
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: like Mike on w I knew, so he's someone that

681
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: definitely projects inside. But sow I he's got the athleticism

682
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: for it. I mean, his arm length is right on

683
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: the threshold, like he just checks the box barely. But

684
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: his athleticism at the combine definitely tests out as an

685
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: above average tackle athlete. So we'll see. He hasn't played

686
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: tackle since eighteen or nineteen. First year, I think, yeah,

687
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: and he his guard tape definitely showed somebody that his

688
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: skill set is best suited at guard. It's pretty similar

689
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: to ANUNU right where yeah, he could play tackle, but

690
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: just the way that he plays in a phone booth

691
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: just looks better to play him out at guard. I

692
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: think if you give him more space and ask him

693
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: to block on an island in pass protection, I don't

694
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: know if he's necessarily going to hold up out there,

695
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: but we'll see. I mean, this is what.

696
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: They don't have a lot of young promising depth there.

697
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I know Andrew Stuer. I don't know

698
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: if any of these guys are going to does he exists?

699
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 9: I've forgotten about last year's d.

700
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: That's something Paul broke me up. I think as having

701
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: high expectations for low, low output guy like not that

702
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: I ever had high, but you know, you always just

703
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: have in the back of your mind like this guy,

704
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: he didn't do anything.

705
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of a simple thing and there's

706
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 5: always outliers. But I feel like when you have new

707
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: guys that come on to the team in general, if

708
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: they turn out to be something significant, you see it

709
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: right away.

710
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: Now.

711
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: There are definitely examples of guys that are on like

712
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: IR the first year or practice squad and afterthought, and

713
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: then they year two. It's a big jump. But like

714
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: to me, Ronnie Perkins as an example, that's a good one.

715
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: You know, when he comes in as a rookie and

716
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 5: you're not seeing him with regular players. I don't want

717
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: to use the starters and backups because I know they

718
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: don't like that. But when you don't see him getting

719
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: a lot of reps, I don't think that they feel

720
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: like he is potentially going to be a part of

721
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: the mix. And conversely, sometimes you see some young guys

722
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: that are from day one, Wow, he's like rotating in

723
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 5: with David Andrews at center, and not just to use

724
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 5: a butler.

725
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: Wasn't he one that just was kind of getting some.

726
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: Constantly showing up in groups with the front line players,

727
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: and you're like, they like this kid. You can tell

728
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: they like them because they're letting him play with guys

729
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: that are going to be playing. And again it's there's

730
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 5: never one hundred percent one or the other. But yeah,

731
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: Andrew Stuber was injured coming in, so I'm going to

732
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: give him a little bit of a pass. We'll see,

733
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 5: but I'd be surprised if they thought a lot of

734
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: chasing Hines and Andrew Stuber based on drafting three more

735
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: quote unquote backup offensive lineman in day three.

736
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: Especially in the in the fourth round. The fourth round

737
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: is usually a lock to make the roster.

738
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, most likely not going to get cut.

739
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, unless they're completely in over their heads

740
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: in training camp. Now, could I see one of those

741
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: guys getting Foxborough fluide and you stash them an I

742
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: are for a year one hundred and ten percent. But

743
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: in terms of protecting them where they can't be poached

744
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: by other teams, you don't just cut fourth round picks.

745
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Most of the time as rookies, those guys tend to stick.

746
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: And I think Mafi, even though he's a fifth rounder,

747
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: I would put him in that category too, just based

748
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: off of.

749
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: How much I like his profile better than the other two.

750
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: Well, I like his film better than the other two too.

751
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: I think he can really play, and at the Shrine

752
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Bowl he was one of the better linemen there. And

753
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: I remember talking to some people at the Shrine Bowl

754
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of them were pretty lukewarm on the

755
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: linement that were there. You know, the guys are probably

756
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: going to be end of the draft, maybe you know,

757
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: priority free agents for the most part, but he was

758
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: somebody that really stood out, especially his play strength and

759
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: his ability to pull like he's three hundred and thirty pounds.

760
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: But he can pull and he can block on the

761
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: move a little bit better than you would expect. I

762
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: think that comes from playing defense maybe and being a

763
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: little bit lighter on his feet than you would expect.

764
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: So I like him the best out of all of

765
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: them as well.

766
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: All right, A five to five pats five hundred. You

767
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: like to give us a call, send us an email,

768
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: web radio at Patriots dot com. I don't know Star

769
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: Wars questions yet. I'm holding out hope for one of them,

770
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: and we're gonna lose Evan.

771
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: And Alex nice Jeff setting the table, make thank you.

772
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I'm gonna do a better job reading

773
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: the emails today because I don't want Audrey up my

774
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: butt still about my so I'm going to read them slowly.

775
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 7: I saw the Patriots unfiltered like without context account tweet

776
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 7: that yesterday and I was like, what.

777
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: After I left. I appreciate it. I appreciate it, and

778
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: you know, hey, we can all take a little constructive

779
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: criticism and you know, try to be better and all that, right,

780
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: But let's let's jump to the phones.

781
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Now.

782
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: We got Todd in North Carolina.

783
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 10: Hate Todd Hey, guys, I said before draft that I

784
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 10: was really hoping that they would address the current league

785
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 10: model on how everything works. I think they made that

786
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 10: an attempt. I think with their draft picks, they didn't

787
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 10: get a receiver early. They tried to build up the defense.

788
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 10: They did take a couple of interesting receiver prospect blate,

789
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 10: but they built up in speed and stuff. And I

790
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 10: remember calling in pre draft and talking to you guys

791
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 10: and think, you know, this is how I could judge

792
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 10: whether you know, Bill still had his hat in the game.

793
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 10: And I really think the draft shows that he does that.

794
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 10: They made an.

795
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 4: Effort, all right.

796
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 10: And my other comment is Juju. I really like what

797
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 10: he said. I really think that the offense needs to

798
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 10: get some Juju.

799
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 11: It's very honest.

800
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 10: I think they're really kind of a lot of sorts

801
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 10: and hopefully, you know, he's a part to bringing him back.

802
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 10: And that's all I got.

803
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 5: Guy.

804
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched the Juju film. I am I did

805
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: like him. He came out. I don't know what I expected.

806
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: Like you just you hear about these guys. They get

807
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: this is Juju Smith Schuster. I mean, I don't know

808
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: what he's like off the field, but you just know

809
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: him as a player, and then you know, you get

810
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: to see him talking. I mean, I he seemed came

811
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: off likable, came off soft spoken. I thought he said

812
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: most of the right things. You know, we'll see how

813
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 4: it all translates onto the field.

814
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know. Just I was listening

815
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: to some some national podcasts and podcast because I like

816
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: to get I like to get what people's opinions are

817
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: of the Patriots that aren't here right, that aren't glueden,

818
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: that aren't as negative as Paul's shows, but also aren't

819
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: as as inside it like we are. You know, they're

820
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: so close to right. So I was listening to Robert

821
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: Mays and those guys in the athletic who I think

822
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: do a great job, and they were a lot of

823
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: them were gushing about the talent on the Patriots defense,

824
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: and I thought that I was just being kind of

825
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: a homer when I looked at the depth chart and

826
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: was like, this is kind of a pretty impressive defense.

827
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: But I really feel like on that side of the

828
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: football now, I think the biggest thing is probably Devin

829
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: mccordy and how they replace the communication and the and

830
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: the experience and that element on the back end. But

831
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: if you just look at talent, their defense on paper

832
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: is one of the better defenses in the league.

833
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: If Gonzales pans out to be what we think he's

834
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 5: going to be, big if because what do we know,

835
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: But if he does, then that significantly improves I think

836
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: the talent level in the secondary.

837
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not everybody.

838
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 5: You just knock everybody down a peg, but they don't

839
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 5: have a guy with that profile, right, So if he's

840
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: really good, I think that's a really valuable piece to

841
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: have back there.

842
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

843
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would still hold up pass rush depth like

844
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: a post Jude on injury, Like I don't know if

845
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: they're if they're set to accommodate that. And I just

846
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: I could go either way on Kim White, like I see,

847
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: you know, everything that we've talked about with him, Like

848
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: there's and and I and I love defensive guys, like

849
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: I love a guy that, in theory, could you know,

850
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: be moved all around the defensive line and just be

851
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: a big, mean, wrecking ball. But I think to like

852
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: what we've just been saying, I don't see that like

853
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: like like with Ucha for example, like I knew Uch

854
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: was a limited guy when we drafted him, he didn't

855
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: really play early downs there. He was there, what he

856
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: was here, But when I talked to you know, his coach,

857
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: but I talked to Don Brown about him, he was like, look,

858
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: this guy can run the arc like nobody else, and

859
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 4: he's going to bring that skill into the NFL immediately

860
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: and challenge the outside shoulder of offensive tackles. And you know,

861
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: Kim White, I'm just searching for, like, what is that

862
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: one thing he does great? Like he seems powerful, but

863
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: it never seems, you know, in what I've seen of him,

864
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: to really blow the play up before it develops. It's

865
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: it's it's almost like the uh. It's almost like the

866
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: Nelson Aguiler thing where it's like all right, it always

867
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: happens like way late in the down, and like that's

868
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: not what we need. We need consistent early down disruption,

869
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: you know, not like all right, well, Nelson Egler caught

870
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: all these passes when I heard some breaks and somebody

871
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: launches it. And I heard someone.

872
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: Talking about White in exactly that manner earlier this week,

873
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: and that was my first thuhs, Like, and he gets

874
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure, but it's like right as the

875
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 5: you know, the passes. So he doesn't have a lot

876
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: of sacks. I'm like, well then, yeah, like not to

877
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: what end then? Now, I would say it sounds to

878
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: me like he might be one of those guys that

879
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 5: we see his impact more on on third downs, passing

880
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 5: downs when he's on the inside. I think he might

881
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 5: be able to be three techniques, you know, a guy

882
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 5: that can collapse the pocket from the inside. Maybe not

883
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 5: racking up big numbers, but maybe his power is going

884
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: to be able to take advantage of those interior guys.

885
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know a lot of people that thought that

886
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: his best NFL role would be a three technique on

887
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: the inside rushing over the guard instead of outside. But

888
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: they I think they see him as a five, like

889
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: a straight up over the tackle type of guy.

890
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 4: I definitely think that.

891
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily think that he's going to be

892
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: flashy or super productive, but I think, you know, with

893
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: everything that I've gathered about him, that he's gonna just

894
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: be solid, Like he's just going to be a solid,

895
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 3: rotational guy that maybe down the road becomes a starter,

896
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: but for now, he's going to be able to play

897
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: in an NFL football game right away, And I guess

898
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: there's something to be said for that, especially in the

899
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: second round. I think they've taken some chances in the

900
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: second round on the upside. You know, guys like a

901
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: Taekwon Thorton, like a Juwan Williams even that have these

902
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: physical traits with this upside, but didn't necessarily have the

903
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: floor of a player like Keon White. So I'm trying

904
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: to talk myself into it too, because it's not out

905
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: of all their picks the day three guys. At that

906
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: point of the draft, you do what you do on

907
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Day three, right, you fill your holes and you feel

908
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: your schematic fits and your culture guys and like whatever.

909
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: But on the top one hundred, I feel like that's

910
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: more where you can kind of look at and see

911
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: what they really did. And he's the one guy out

912
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: of the three in the top one hundred that I'm

913
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: still I got to see it in training camp and

914
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: early on in this season for me to be a

915
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: big time believer. But I do think that he'll be

916
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: able to play a role on defense in some capacity.

917
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: He could be ready to replace Dietrich Wise too. You know,

918
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 5: I mean he's not getting any younger.

919
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: He's Alex's age, right, I know, the six year breakout.

920
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 7: He just had a baby though, so maybe his dad's strength.

921
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: Now, Oh that's what I asked. I love teach I

922
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: lost all my strength when I had Oh you lose

923
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: that strength when happen? Yes, what is dad strength? Yeah?

924
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: I I But there's also part of me with White

925
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: that's just like holding out hope that like he's going

926
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 4: to get here and the injury is going to finally

927
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: be behind him and it's all going to kind of

928
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: click for him, and I want to feel like I

929
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: felt with bar Moore in twenty twenty one's camp, where

930
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: it's like every one on one you saw the guy go,

931
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a handful, you know. I just I

932
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: just want to see him be a handful early on

933
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: in training camp. It's so hard to judge those guys,

934
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: you know, especially early on in camp when they're not

935
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: even in pads yet, and then even when they get

936
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: in pads, you get a handful of you know, one

937
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: on ones from across the field that you're trying to

938
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: trying to figure out. So I'm still holding out home by.

939
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying on most of these guys. Right like,

940
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: after selling, I can talk myself into everybody, like I

941
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: have Marty Maps, I'm trying to do that with Mapu

942
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: is just Matt mallotap to me in my head already

943
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: right Like I've already totally sold myself on that one.

944
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 5: Haven't put that in my head on Saturday, and I've

945
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 5: been trying to get there.

946
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: But but I got to see it on the field

947
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: in the summer, like with pads On that's obviously. So

948
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: we're a long way away from that. So we'll see.

949
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: We're gonna like a couple of weeks with MIDI camp.

950
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: Like he looks big, you know, like.

951
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, Sam Roberts looks big, I know,

952
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: like Sam Roberts looks like an NFL player walking off

953
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: the bus, but he he adds occasional flash in camp

954
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: as a rookie, but we really need to see it

955
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: from kee round.

956
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like the seventh round version of White And

957
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: I thought too when they selected him. He was one

958
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: of the guys that I talked to. I mean, he's

959
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: a D two player I think with you know, but

960
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: but same kind of thing, like one of those just

961
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: those big, powerful guys that don't really have an exact

962
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: position maybe for some NFL teams but you know here

963
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: they're they're useful because they can move around. Uh all right,

964
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: let's jump back to the phones and we got let's

965
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 4: see always, let's see always doing will and film. Hey, wellam,

966
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: how are you doing?

967
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 12: Man' I'm okay, Uh not as good as yesterday, but

968
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 12: I'm okay.

969
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 11: All right the day though?

970
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: All right, that's I'm well.

971
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 12: How are everybody doing on the PANEA? Everybody goody good?

972
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 12: So okay, all right, I'm a school I'm alex from

973
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 12: this one. But this is for the for the fellas, Okay,

974
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 12: it so is this is this is all we're going

975
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 12: with far as the on the offensive side night. So

976
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 12: you're just because basically all they did in terms of

977
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 12: the receiving part is you just swapped out players.

978
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 13: That's all you did.

979
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 12: You didn't really add anything. Well and to a lot

980
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 12: of lottery fix the six round picks that you might,

981
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 12: I guess you are hoping they tend out. So is

982
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 12: that all we're going is that's all that's gonna be

983
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 12: added to help mac Jim.

984
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: Yes, because you didn't get attack ration yep. Yeah, I

985
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: mean there's was a chance that you could make a trade.

986
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say that what you see is

987
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: what you get. Offensively, they like their tackles better than

988
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: everybody else. Whether we agree with that or not, we listen, William.

989
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: I'll be the first one to tell you. I got

990
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 5: some humble pie on Tuesday from Paul over there about

991
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: being knowing knowing more than Bill Belichick. Oh yeah, so

992
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: I'll tell you they might know more than us about

993
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: the tackles, all right, So we got to give them

994
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: a chance to play the tackles.

995
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: I hear you on the receivers, I really do. But

996
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: I think the one interesting thing that you know, when

997
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: I had some conversations the other day that someone said

998
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: to me is that, you know, Bill Walsh was a

999
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: big believer that that number one receiver, he was the

1000
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: final piece to the puzzle. Right, It wasn't. You didn't

1001
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: just throw the number one receiver, you know, the Jerry

1002
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: Rice to his you know, for Bill Walsh's you know mind,

1003
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: you don't just throw that guy in when you're still

1004
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: rebuilding the rest of the roster. You know, when the

1005
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: Bills were ready to take that next step, that's when

1006
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: they made that Stefan Digg's tray. When the Eagles are

1007
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 3: ready to take that next step. That's when they made

1008
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: the aj Brown trade. And as much as I want

1009
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: the Patriots to make that trade too, I do wonder

1010
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: if they felt like they were still a year away

1011
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: from that guy really doing the service that we all

1012
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: want him to do, of moving that needle from you know, uh,

1013
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: one one direction to another. So I totally hear you

1014
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: on the receivers. I think we're all in the same

1015
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: boat on that. But maybe maybe that move comes next offseason.

1016
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: Is as much as we want to see it right away.

1017
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 12: Okay, So let me let me ask you this, Evan,

1018
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 12: But I have I have another take after this one day. Okay,

1019
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 12: So all right, So Tom Tom Brady's been going since

1020
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 12: what twenty nineteen? Correct, So we already hit in twenty

1021
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 12: twenty three. Now, so how long does it take to

1022
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 12: build because already build messed up one season already for unfortunately,

1023
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. So, how long does it

1024
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 12: take to build a team to get them to be

1025
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 12: back in a competitive mode or championship mode or whatever?

1026
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, depends on yes, how long do you need?

1027
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 12: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying.

1028
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 5: Well, I think that the answer for that is different

1029
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: you know, like does it work and does the quarterback work?

1030
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: And I mean I've seen teams turning around in one year.

1031
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 5: I've seen teams spin their wheels for a decade, right,

1032
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 5: Like I mean, let's hope that the Patriots aren't in

1033
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: that situation.

1034
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, what I mean.

1035
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 12: But go ahead, Okay, so you're saying, you're saying you

1036
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 12: see other teams do there?

1037
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 13: Okay?

1038
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 5: So well, like like the Jets for example, you know

1039
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: the last time they made the playoffs was what.

1040
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: Twenty Mark Sanchez?

1041
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I mean, so you know, then you look

1042
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: at some other teams that you know that they were good,

1043
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 5: you know, like Kansas City, you know they were good.

1044
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 5: They were playoff team with Alex Smith, they sort of

1045
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: recalibrated and immediately jumped to another level with Patrick Mahomes, Like,

1046
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: there's no blueprint. Answer, Well, it takes three years to

1047
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: rebuild properly. No, Like it depends on how you hit

1048
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: on your picks and your players. And I'm sorry to

1049
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 5: break it down to just one thing, but you're quarterback. Yeah,

1050
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: like that matters.

1051
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: Well, I would, and I would break it down a

1052
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: different way though, I would. I would say, how long

1053
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 4: does the ownership and fan base have patience for you

1054
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: know that. And and just real quick before I let

1055
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: you make your point, William, I just I went back

1056
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: and I just looked at all the three other AFC

1057
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: East teams over the last twenty years, and you know

1058
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: what was it like for them? What was the average

1059
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: that that they were willing to go with a coach

1060
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: quarterback kind of combination, And usually it was three or

1061
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: four years, Like if you made the playoffs or had

1062
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: a pretty good season, you might get that fourth year,

1063
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: but usually it's three years at least as far as those.

1064
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: Are the problem for that, you can't really compare the

1065
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: Patriots situation to anybody else because no one else has

1066
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 5: a coach that's been doing it for twenty three years,

1067
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 5: not twenty five. R Like he's telling you, yeah, it's

1068
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 5: tough to fire and fire Bill.

1069
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: Bellot and won six titles, so he's that that counts

1070
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: for something. But I think that's get more time, right,

1071
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: But but what is it? And I think I about

1072
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: some questions here on the email too of you know,

1073
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 4: what is what is reasonable? You know, I don't think

1074
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 4: anybody was ready to fire Bill and twenty I mean,

1075
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: certainly some people were, you know, but but it's just

1076
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: what as soon as he left where he's out, I

1077
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 4: left you off.

1078
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 12: At this point, he said, I don't care what you're doing.

1079
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 14: Man.

1080
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you.

1081
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1082
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: That's a that's a fair way of looking at it.

1083
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks will I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: I wont to know why he was so happy yesterday?

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Speaker 4: What was so good that happened yesterday? I was like,

1086
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: not as good as yesterday? He said, yeah, I don't know.

1087
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't even a show day. I hope good could

1088
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: have been. I got some emails to somebody, some strains

1089
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: from me. Again. Well no, I well maybe I should

1090
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: read this one right now, just real quick, because Andy

1091
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: wrote in about Willem and you know, well it's a

1092
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: little listener on listener debate here. I like so Andy,

1093
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: and Cleveland wrote in, uh, hopefully Willim tuned back in.

1094
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: He said, what in the world is going on with Willim?

1095
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: And he calls him Willem and Philim Willhem and film's

1096
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: audio guy sounds like he's calling from inside of a

1097
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: water tower on speaker.

1098
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 5: If he's down, William is down. He's always That's why

1099
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 5: he sounds like that.

1100
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: Well, he said, I appreciate the can be regular callers

1101
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: and contribute to the show, but can we take up

1102
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: a collection to get him some decent headphones with a mic? So, uh,

1103
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: headphones with a mic? He's calling it?

1104
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want us to get him?

1105
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: At a little blue yetti micy marine corps, get on that.

1106
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: I want all of our regular calls a.

1107
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: Microphone. Send him one of those those briefcases that you

1108
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: give me when I go on the on the road.

1109
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: Or it's way too big.

1110
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta check this. Yeah, it's very it's heavy,

1111
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 3: and I'm weak.

1112
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: I know, Evan, and hours have to go if not,

1113
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: you know, so make sure you guys, I don't want

1114
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 5: to hold I mean, we're riding with the PP and

1115
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: the Duce, but I think we can have better nicknames

1116
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: than that. A PP of the all of the focusroops

1117
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 5: love it, Evan. I mean, you know it's no Catch twenty.

1118
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 4: Two, which coming up at two o'clock stay tuned.

1119
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, So why don't we reset, take a little

1120
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 5: bit of a break and let them.

1121
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: So, I'm gonna grab the I'm just gonna grab one

1122
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: call here before we break, because Dominic's been holding on

1123
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 4: for a moment and I just want to grab them. Hey, Dominique,

1124
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 4: what's going on?

1125
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Speaker 12: Hey, what's up? Hopefully what Mike is good?

1126
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1127
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: Perfect? Yeah?

1128
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Speaker 15: You go.

1129
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: In college?

1130
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, well come on.

1131
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: But yeah.

1132
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 12: So I just thoughts on everything with the drafting going on,

1133
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 12: and more of a discussion for y'all is I'm looking

1134
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 12: back at the twenty twenty three draft and I'm thinking,

1135
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 12: you know, I know, there's been a lot of talk

1136
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 12: about folks wanting, you know, wide receiver on that end,

1137
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 12: but thinking about even with Christian Gonzalez, there was a

1138
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 12: whole worry about Johnson Jones if he leaves, who the

1139
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 12: heck is going to be a number one corner where

1140
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 12: we tell that position? That was my worry, even the

1141
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 12: same with Devin mccordy. So with the first three takes,

1142
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 12: I've been very happy with that, addressing with a lot

1143
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 12: of needs or potential needs that will have in the

1144
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 12: next couple of years or so, and even going back

1145
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 12: to the wide receiver thing, it's kind of like, you know,

1146
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 12: I know folks are mad and upset, but I look

1147
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 12: at it like this. We had that weird year with Brady.

1148
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 12: After Brady, with cam Okay, didn't do so well. We

1149
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 12: had a rookie Mack Jones, went to the playoffs, and

1150
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 12: we had a good offensive coordinator, right phone year want

1151
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 12: to do a whole whatever with the offensive shifting between

1152
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 12: you know, Patricia Judge would have me bad. I kind

1153
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 12: of want to see before we dive and see like

1154
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 12: the concerns of austense, even though they are legit concerns

1155
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 12: in the offense, the ability with Bill O'Brien. You have

1156
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 12: another player in Jujusvin Sister that I think is talented

1157
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 12: and can produce at a decent level given a chance.

1158
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 12: Schemes well and we sell type one third and who

1159
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 12: we don't really know what he can't do, but he's

1160
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 12: still I believe, in my opinion, has a high seiling.

1161
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 12: So with that being said, I'm okay with the fact

1162
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 12: that we haven't gone like so high per receiver, especially

1163
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 12: for getting someone like Kyshambodie, who if he pans out,

1164
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 12: could be excellent, or you know, the Mario Douglas who

1165
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 12: you know that coaching staff knows better than you know

1166
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 12: probably interview us to in terms of his speed, his

1167
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 12: athletic profile and whatnot. So I'm wonder if you're feeling

1168
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 12: the same way, Like, I'm more concerned about the ability.

1169
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 12: I want to see what Mack can do with what

1170
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 12: he has if you believe another receiver is the thing

1171
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 12: that makes him jump to that at leite, you know,

1172
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 12: top fifteen whatever ten quarterback level, sir. But that's the

1173
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 12: least how I'm feeling. That's kind of what I want

1174
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 12: to gauge first, and that's going through training cramp, the

1175
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 12: early parts of the season and so on and so forth.

1176
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

1177
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 7: You make a pretty good point because I think if

1178
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 7: you look at us this time last year, we're looking

1179
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: at this receiving core. On paper, it looks a lot

1180
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 7: the same as this year. You don't have Nelson Aguilar,

1181
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 7: But like our narratives last year is we're way more

1182
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 7: worried about the defense on this show.

1183
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1184
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 7: I was, And this was before all the coordinator drama.

1185
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: Paul Paul's always read.

1186
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: Specific position, so I was I always have fair enough.

1187
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 7: But it was just a totally different conversation we were

1188
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 7: having before training camp and then the coordinator stuff played out.

1189
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 7: It was so dysfunctional and it's like, oh my god,

1190
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 7: how could we even have had these opinions?

1191
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I'm more worried about honestly at this point,

1192
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Like I hear all the look I'm not the one

1193
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: to say I don't believe in receivers all of a sudden, right,

1194
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 3: Like I hear all that, But I'm more worried about

1195
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: the tackles, to be honest with you, because me too,

1196
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 3: I look at mac Jones, and I know even last

1197
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: year when it was as dysfunctional and horrible as it

1198
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: was on offense, from clean pockets, he graded out extremely well,

1199
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: like high passer ratings, high PFF grades. If you're into that,

1200
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: it's always with him, it's always under pressure. Like he's

1201
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: not a mobile guy, he's not an elusive guy, and

1202
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: he doesn't throw the ball well while under pressure. So

1203
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: if you can keep him clean, he can make all

1204
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: the throws and he can run your offense and do

1205
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: all those types of things. But if you can't, and

1206
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: I think they're banking on a lot of coaching like

1207
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 3: Adrian Klem and the just sophistication of the entire system

1208
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: up front being cleaner because the talent I'm not necessarily

1209
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: sure is significantly better on the line, right.

1210
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, My biggest fear, the reason I agree with the

1211
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 5: tackle is.

1212
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1213
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 5: Do I think they could use an upgrade of talent

1214
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: in the pass catches, I absolutely do, But I think

1215
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: in this particular draft class it wasn't really conducive to

1216
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 5: devoting a lot of resources to it. Now, I think

1217
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 5: they could have gone earlier. And you guys talked about

1218
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 5: this a lot on Saturday. There were guys that were

1219
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 5: worth developing Charlie Jones's and you know, Josh Downs's of

1220
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: the world that they passed on. Okay, fine, I don't

1221
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 5: think any of those guys was going to step in,

1222
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 5: you know, in twenty twenty three if the number or significant.

1223
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 5: You know, addition, I think what they have as pass

1224
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 5: catchers is good enough. And I'm kind of echoing Dominique's

1225
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 5: feel like, Okay, so let's see how it looks with

1226
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 5: a real offensive coordinator, and Evan brings up a good point,

1227
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 5: a real offensive line coach.

1228
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, to see if you can well that that was going.

1229
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: To look more like you did as a rookie before

1230
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: you guys go.

1231
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: That was just the one point I was going to

1232
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 4: bring out because I remember you talking about talking to

1233
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman and them saying that they didn't have

1234
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: the ability to make the same calls, and they did so.

1235
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: I just I wonder if maybe some part of that

1236
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: struggle with Mac was baked into just not having the

1237
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: answers all the time that he needed to have. Maybe

1238
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: they're and.

1239
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: That's his strength as a player, is to be able

1240
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: to get to the line of scrimmage, survey what the

1241
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: defense is showing you pre snap, and get everybody pointed

1242
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: in the right direction, make some checks, make some changes

1243
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: to the protection like those are the things that That's

1244
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: what drew them to him to an extent, was between

1245
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: the ears, what he was capable of doing at the

1246
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage as a field general, and last year

1247
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: they just kind of stripped all of that away from him.

1248
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: So if they can get back to playing to his strengths,

1249
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: not only as a passer, but also just the cerebralness

1250
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: of his ability to read the field, I think that

1251
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: they're going to be better upfront. But I do worry

1252
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: still about the one on one match. At the end

1253
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: of the day, it's still my guy against your guy

1254
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: to an extent in football always so at the end

1255
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: of the day, is Riley Reef can hold up at

1256
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: right tackle When they got Von Miller coming off one

1257
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: side and Greg Russo coming off the other side against

1258
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: Buffalo or whatever the matchup is. Are they going to

1259
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: be able to hold up against Bradley Chubb and Jalen

1260
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: Phillips when they play Miami. I don't know. Those are

1261
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 3: the big concerns that I have.

1262
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 4: All Right, Evan announce' going to take off. Go here

1263
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 4: from Mike Kasiki and Mike Rabe. A lot of Mike's

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 4: today and you got one here hosting and Mike, Mike

1265
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: salt So, me and Paul are going to ta a

1266
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: little bit of a break. Nobody's foods here. We're not

1267
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: even eating today, folks. We're just gonna sit it out

1268
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: for a little bit, so we'll be back in a minute.

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Speaker 3: No, you guys sit in the couch. We stand for

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Speaker 3: the rest of it.

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Speaker 9: Though, I do.

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Speaker 5: That's that's news nowadays, the regular local news they have

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Speaker 3: It's I like Wendy, Yeah, who Wendy next?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Cobra, Well, I like her all right, Sorry, she's.

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Speaker 9: Been around since dirt.

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Speaker 5: She's old.

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Speaker 5: I will take Kansas City and I will take the

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Speaker 5: points with Oakland.

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Speaker 2: She's Monday night football, right, Yeah, yeah, I like her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been around a long time.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna do you have to rehe emphasize it.

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Speaker 4: How many times you're going to say how old she is?

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Speaker 9: She's old? That's another great moment.

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Speaker 4: voice of Megan o'brown. Great, the great Megan. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: share a little bit of news. I hope it's okay

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Speaker 4: about mob, but she is going to be throwing out

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Speaker 4: the first pitch at a Chicago White Sox game for real,

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Speaker 4: and I gotta say too, we got Matis. I think

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Speaker 4: it's in July. Okay, out in July, so I think

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Speaker 4: everybody probably knows what a huge fan of the White

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Speaker 4: Sox she was. Maglio or dan Ardonia. I told her,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you gotta wear a Maglio jersey. So she's

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Speaker 4: very excited, and I hope she throws a strike though,

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Speaker 4: I mean that's she's pretty athletic. I think I think

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Speaker 4: she'll throw right down the middle.

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Speaker 2: My favorite.

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Speaker 5: Did you happen to see the woman who plays college

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Speaker 5: baseball for Brown, the first woman, right, first woman to

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Speaker 5: play Division one college baseball, And she threw out the

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Speaker 5: first pitch of the Red Sox game, and she threw

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Speaker 5: it as hard as she could, which I was kind

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Speaker 5: of expecting, but it was yeah, it.

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Speaker 9: Was like, wasn't as beast fifty cents though?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, oh.

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Speaker 5: No, but she's an actual Bay spat player. I would

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Speaker 5: have got to I mean, I was expecting more excited.

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Speaker 4: Well, you should have give us some tips for throwing

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Speaker 4: out pitches at some way, right, if you've done that, right.

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Speaker 5: I've thrown actual pitches, not ceremonial.

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Speaker 4: Once they're not ceremonial.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have to choose me out of a lottery

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Speaker 5: to do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean home. No, that wasn't no lung. That

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Speaker 4: was in New Britain, New Britain.

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Speaker 9: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Let's jump over to the phone though, real quick, because

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Speaker 4: Brian from Western mass has been holding on through our break. So,

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Speaker 4: hey Brian, thanks for holding on. Now what's going on?

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Speaker 24: Hey you guys, hope you're doing well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 24: So the one thing, uh I'll find an issue with

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Speaker 24: is that people are complaining about not drafting a wide

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Speaker 24: receiver early in the draft.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 24: I think personally there was no superstar wide receiver jumping

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Speaker 24: out at us. Second of all, I don't find you know,

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Speaker 24: this team needs another rookie that's just going to learn

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Speaker 24: the offense. Yeah, and I mean, if anything, this offense

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Speaker 24: needs a veteran proved wide receiver. Obviously like a Copkins

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Speaker 24: and probably Judy are not able to be tradable, but

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Speaker 24: that's the kind of receiver that team needs. Not enough,

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Speaker 24: you know, Josh Booty are booties. I forget us first name.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry the great.

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Speaker 24: Honestly, I just don't see needing a draft pick early

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Speaker 24: in the draft for wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks for the call, and I mean it's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's something we kind of talked about when

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Speaker 4: we got into Day two, which was just was there

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Speaker 4: that guy? I mean, if they gotten Flowers, it's all

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Speaker 4: about that. Like to me, if name on the claim.

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Speaker 5: If it was a regular draft class, I think this

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Speaker 5: wide receiver class had a bunch of secondary guys at

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Speaker 5: the top of it. Now, I think there were a

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Speaker 5: lot of good receivers. I don't think there were any

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Speaker 5: great ones. And if there was, the way it's been

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Speaker 5: like in recent years, I would have been much more

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Speaker 5: open to using wide receiver at fourteen. Now, I just

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think Smith.

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Speaker 5: And Jigba or Zay Flowers was worthy of that. Some

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Speaker 5: people do, and that's fine because they haven't played it

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Speaker 5: down yet. We'll see who ends up being right. But

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Speaker 5: I don't kill them for that.

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Speaker 4: No, And Tise, you love you love Gonzalez as much

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Speaker 4: as everybody, and it's like, I mean, I look at

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Speaker 4: it the same way. It's just the opposite side of

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Speaker 4: the ball. Like you say, they're missing that number one

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Speaker 4: threat on the offense. Well, I'd say they're missing that

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Speaker 4: number one cover guy on the defense. And that's what

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Speaker 4: you had the opportunity to get now. And to our

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Speaker 4: our our previous caller who said, it's you know, that

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Speaker 4: last piece that you put in, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: know about that. I'm hoping one of these two guys emerged,

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Speaker 4: like one of these two six rounders comes out and

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe just chips in with it. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: have to be a lot. It could be like Jacoby Myers,

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Speaker 4: but it's hard to it's hard to wish because you

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Speaker 4: love Gonzalez right.

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Speaker 9: Or due for a late round guy to blow up.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's happened here for a while. But

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Speaker 9: I mean last year, I mean you just I think,

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Speaker 9: Hi tis twenty twenty, but you had to pick last year,

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Speaker 9: you could have got one of those guys. I don't

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Speaker 9: think any of the receivers this year were that much better.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean justin Jefferson go like twenty you know

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Speaker 4: and whatever it was twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know that's the drafts.

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Speaker 9: You're talking about Paul where it's well, just.

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Speaker 4: I'd be pretty happy with any of them.

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Speaker 5: I would have taken one of those guys at fourteen

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Speaker 5: if they were available, you know, from last year now,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think it was the same caliber of class.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the draft reality to punching you in

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: the face is like, I mean, every single person except

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Speaker 4: for Paul Credit where credit is due had Josh Downs

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: is the number one guy on the second tier. So

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Speaker 4: once those receivers went in the first round.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't hate him or anything, I just wasn't

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Speaker 5: as high on it.

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Speaker 4: But you weren't, so you weren't looking at him as like.

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01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah you did, like Marvin, I think I remember that

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 5: from the broadcast.

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Speaker 4: So there were those guys, you know, kicking around. But

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Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, when I think, when

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Speaker 4: you break it down, what intrigued me about Downs was

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Speaker 4: what would kind of intrigue me if Booty or Douglas

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: were to hit you know, that's the kind of player

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Speaker 4: I wanted, So doing it with a six round pick

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Speaker 4: and there's not really the pressure. I like how they

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Speaker 4: balanced those two.

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Speaker 9: What's interesting to me is that the guys who went

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 9: late in the first round, Quentin Johnson Addison, that might

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 9: be scary because you got Justin Jefferson and then you

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 9: got Mike Williams and Keenan Allen in la like that

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Speaker 9: gives them some veterans tomm under and that's just going

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Speaker 9: to free them up so they might have big seasons.

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Speaker 4: It's it's nice to have that lucky.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I just don't think you got that here.

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: No, no you don't.

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Speaker 5: And I do think that's a good point because you

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01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 5: you attached a little like context and nuance to it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of people immediately look

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 5: and I'm not telling you that it's an easy thing

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Speaker 5: to do or that it's correct, but a lot of

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 5: people look and they say, well, Justin Jefferson, you could

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Speaker 5: have had Justin Jefferson, and if you've done maybe, if

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01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 5: you've moved up, you could have gotten Jefferson that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: they could have. And I think he's a great player.

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Speaker 5: I think you'd be great anywhere, but maybe he wouldn't

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 5: be great here, you know. And you know that's one

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Speaker 5: that's one I don't agree with obviously, because I think

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Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson is one of at worst one of the

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: three best receivers in football. I think guys like that

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 5: are great any anywhere they go. Yeah, but sometimes you know,

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 5: so Quentin Johnston, maybe he works because of what you said, tease.

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01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 5: Maybe with with Herbert Layton downs you like to talk about,

1554
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 5: with Agalore and two other receivers that are pretty good,

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 5: it's not going to be asked to go in there

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 5: and catch ninety balls. He could have a really good

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 5: rookie year and catch like forty, right, you know, but

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 5: maybe with the Patriots he wouldn't be afforded that same

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Speaker 5: kind of luxury.

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Speaker 4: And to that point, I wonder what's going to be available,

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Speaker 4: you know, if one of those six round guys do

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Speaker 4: get a chance, you know, because I do think that

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: their their skill sets are a little bit unique. And

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe with Thornton speed, with Parker going down

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 4: the field as a contested catch kind of guy like,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe that helps open up opportunities for some

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01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 4: of these guys underneath. You know, we have to see

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Speaker 4: I just again, it's there's so many like what if

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01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien works out, what if Taekwon Thornton makes a leap.

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Speaker 4: What if Riley Reef has you know, can squeeze another

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Speaker 4: solid year, you know, out of whatever how many years

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: he's been playing. You know, it's all those what ifs

1573
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 4: we're playing and generally the more they're going to thread

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01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: the needle.

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 5: Generally, if you have the worst, the record will be wrong,

1576
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 5: you know, like a lot of people talk about that

1577
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 5: with the Red Sox on the Red Socks are one

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 5: five in a row?

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 4: Who knows?

1580
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Speaker 15: He?

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01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: Who knows?

1582
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 5: Uh?

1583
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: Eldrid calling in, see what he's got to say? Hey, Eldred,

1584
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 4: how are you.

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: There?

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 9: It is?

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01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 24: Hey fellows, tell y'all doing lady good?

1588
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: No lady yet? No, no lady right now? But maybe soon.

1589
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 11: I thought you were already.

1590
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 5: I thought she was se Evan and Alex had to

1591
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 5: go and to uh work, talk to Mike.

1592
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: Sicky about football, and we get this.

1593
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 11: I'm gonna get to it. We'll get to it.

1594
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 13: Paul.

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 11: I loved that fight with you and Fred Tuesday.

1596
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 4: And I agree with.

1597
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: Cold Strange.

1598
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 4: Oh oh was he a bus? Yeah? That yeah, it's

1599
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: a bus.

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Speaker 11: And I think he's gonna be one reckless regular season

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 11: throughout two you know. But I also agree with you

1602
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 11: with debt.

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 15: But uh, the other.

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 11: Caller you had a chance to get and what you

1605
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 11: call last year, but he didn't get it, so you

1606
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 11: had one, you know, Oh they got from Olga.

1607
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 4: State And I'm not gonna lie.

1608
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 5: I worry a little bit about that with the tight

1609
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 5: ends this year because it seems to me, the better

1610
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 5: a class is in terms of talent, the more at

1611
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 5: the Patriots are to sit that draft out and wait

1612
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 5: for the next one.

1613
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 4: They've been doing it with wide receivers for like five years,

1614
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 4: like a year off.

1615
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, but they picking wrong one for the last five years. Yeah,

1616
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 11: that's the problem. He's picking the wrong one and Clifton

1617
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 11: Johnson's gonna be a monster. You're wait and see. But

1618
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 11: one more things about the defense Verythale, I thue you

1619
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 11: about White. I don't really like him that much, but

1620
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 11: you like.

1621
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 25: Him but I don't.

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 5: I was like, you're agreement with me when things that

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01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily agree with, Because my argument with Cole

1625
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 5: Strange wasn't that he's a bust. It's that it's harder

1626
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 5: to tell of an offensive lineman is a bust because

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01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: if they play, everybody automatically thinks it's fine. Whereas the

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 5: other positions where you can get statistics, you can readily see.

1629
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 11: Yeah you can regulusly, right, but I think you should

1630
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 11: have got somes Key on white, you know. And but

1631
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 11: that defense, the secondary, I like what he picked in

1632
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 11: the last two round or the last six round, six rounds,

1633
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 11: the last two I just hope they can contribute besides

1634
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 11: special team.

1635
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I wouldn't count on that.

1636
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 11: You have fet on't count on it.

1637
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

1638
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, you don't take guys that down,

1639
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 5: you know, in the two hundreds that you're expecting to contribute.

1640
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 5: Like I mean again, i'd never say never, like there's

1641
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 5: always outliers.

1642
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: But you know, guys are special teamers in college and right,

1643
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 4: I mean they can run.

1644
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 11: But Speed plays for Michigan State. He started on the

1645
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 11: left side.

1646
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1647
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 5: Speed played his first four years at Georgia and really

1648
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 5: couldn't get on the field, okay, and then he went

1649
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 5: to Michigan State for his last year. Right, I'm not

1650
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 5: that's the one that I'm thinking of. Right, he went

1651
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 5: to Michigan State is last year and he was okay,

1652
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 5: Yeah he's okay.

1653
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, I saw some fifty was okay, But I think

1654
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 11: it was a.

1655
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 5: Big difference big ten passing games and SEC passing games.

1656
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 11: Yea, it might be.

1657
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 10: Well.

1658
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 11: Y'all have a good one.

1659
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 4: Thanks, appreciate you all your calls. Thank you quick email

1660
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: that just popped up. That made me laugh. Sam from

1661
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 4: Maryland waging and love the show and the draft coverage.

1662
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 4: I compiled a few of the best quotes of the draft.

1663
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: Oh boy, yeah, these were good. Mike, this is one

1664
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: of mine. Something about kids in suits just bothers me.

1665
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 4: It's true. Then then Matisa was like, it's to make

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 4: a wish kid out.

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01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 9: Damn it.

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: Fred, Wait, who did they take? Who was picked? What

1669
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 4: player is going? As you know, classic Fred playing the hits.

1670
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: You can fill in the blame for any situation in

1671
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 5: the first round.

1672
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, they're going to trade their third round pick

1673
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 4: for Force for seven fourths and have all of the

1674
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: fourth round. Fred. We don't want to bore people, Paul

1675
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 4: too late. Those are a few few highlights from our

1676
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: from our draft. Paul, why don't you tell that? Why

1677
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: don't you tell the audience how how the draft show performed?

1678
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 5: We got you'd be able to talk about this a

1679
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 5: little bit too. We got some numbers from our illustrious

1680
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 5: Chris Ferrara, and there they compile the NFL compile some

1681
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 5: numbers off of Draft weekend video. So there are different things.

1682
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 5: But the most watched draft show was the Cowboys. Not

1683
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 5: surprisingly they own they owned the NFL, and we were

1684
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 5: second behind Dallas. Now, the gap between Dallas and the

1685
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 5: Patriots is about one hundred and fifty thousand, so it

1686
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 5: was significant. They had over two hundred thousand like that.

1687
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: Was well, and we also heard that they might have

1688
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: been Now yeah.

1689
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 5: Now we're also calling into question, which I like our

1690
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 5: social media team, the whole mail came to our defense.

1691
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 5: Evidently Dallas was on for five hours videos and we're

1692
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 5: told that we can only be on for an hour.

1693
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 4: Well, they got to get their guy and everyone wants

1694
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 4: to see it.

1695
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 5: So if we were on for five hours, that maybe

1696
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 5: we continue to you know, rack up the clicks in

1697
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 5: the beginning of videos and whatnot. But so we want

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01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: to thank The bottom line is Mike gives us an

1699
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 5: opportunity to thank you guys for making sure that we

1700
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 5: finished so high in that ranking, because that means a

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 5: lot to us. It's because there was so many people

1702
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 5: that were interested in not only the Patriots Draft, but

1703
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 5: what we had to say about it, So thank you

1704
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 5: to everybody. See, I don't always criticize no, no.

1705
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 4: Especially while Look there's a difference between like the general

1706
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: you know, Patriots fan that is just as like you know,

1707
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: just refuses to believe that they haven't won the Super

1708
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 4: Bowl every year for the last twenty years. And then

1709
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: you know our fans who listen to us, you know,

1710
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 4: we get both sides of things, and we have fun

1711
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 4: with it. So we we of course appreciate everybody. That's

1712
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: that's what it's all about. Sticking with the emails here,

1713
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: and I hope I'm doing a good job on these,

1714
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: because a great Josh. I'm gonna wait for Audrey to

1715
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 4: thank you, though, but I'll wait for her. Towagh In Mike,

1716
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 4: I found out after Tuesday show you were born in Rochester,

1717
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 4: New Yorky. It's true. I'm surprised because I've never heard

1718
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 4: anyone admit to being born there. I was learning how

1719
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: long you stayed there and what your favorite attraction, So

1720
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 4: I explained it. I mean, I was my parents were

1721
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 4: there for a few years while my dad was working

1722
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 4: at Wilson's Sporting Goods. Wilson yeah, support supplying a lot

1723
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 4: of turned into a Audrey uh sort of, of course, of

1724
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 4: course he did. But then I moved here, uh to

1725
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 4: wonderful Holliston, Massachusetts. I think I was about one year old,

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Speaker 4: so I grew up around here. So I have no

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01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 4: memory of Rochester or anything like that. But it's just

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: it's one of those random things that I have nothing

1729
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 4: to do with that, but that is where when like,

1730
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: where's your place at birth? That's what I gotta put down.

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01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 9: So but you're you're a mass whole at heart.

1732
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 5: I mean, Mike, at least you have stories to tell.

1733
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you could be like me and born in Boston,

1734
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 5: you grew up in Everett, went to college in Boston,

1735
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 5: working in Boston.

1736
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 9: High school with with Meredith Gray high school.

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 4: Oh I did. Yeah, I should say no, but but

1738
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 4: we should take was that.

1739
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 5: I know she fancies herself Pompeo. Now we went to

1740
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 5: high school together. She was a year behind.

1741
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 4: I mean, if if if I'm allowing Star Wars questions today,

1742
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: which we've gotten none I've yet, and Matisa is way

1743
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 4: in on Grey's Anatomy right now, so our Grays, our

1744
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 4: Grays fans out there, if you if you've got some

1745
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: marriage questions.

1746
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 5: It's amazing to me that, of all people, tease.

1747
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: Is so I don't get any he keeps complaints against

1748
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 4: I can't stop, I can't plan't stop, won't stop it

1749
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: died down.

1750
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 9: What's the draft game?

1751
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 10: Throw?

1752
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 9: Because I like my late round picks over the heart surgeries.

1753
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 4: So nice. Nice, that's good. Mark from Tennessee love the show.

1754
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 4: Really feel the Patriots should have drafted offensive tackle in

1755
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 4: the draft. I'm worried about the longevity of the tackles

1756
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 4: we have on the roster. Also, I'm concerned about max armstrength.

1757
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 4: He's not able to put the ball down field with

1758
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 4: much power. He puts a huge arc on the throws

1759
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 4: down the field, giving defenders more time to get in

1760
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: position to make the play on the ball.

1761
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 9: It's called the touch pass.

1762
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he throws a good deep ball in

1763
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 5: that regard, but I would agree with the criticism of it.

1764
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 5: It does take a while to get there, and I

1765
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 5: think that we've seen examples of plays that were there

1766
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 5: to be made that maybe the timing wasn't quite on.

1767
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 4: But he's got to be on with the offense, and

1768
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: I think that's what exposed him a little bit last

1769
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 4: year was just that the offense wasn't coordinated in a

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01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: way that he could go through progressions and take advantage

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01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 4: of what he does well. And I you know, I think,

1772
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 4: if he can't know this is the throw, I've got

1773
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 4: to make it at this exact moment to get it

1774
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: there at the right time. And you know, it's kind

1775
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: of like what we saw with Cam Newton when he

1776
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: was late to see something and he tried to put

1777
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 4: more juice in it, and it just you can't catch

1778
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: up once you missed the window. So I'm hoping it's

1779
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 4: not as much of an issue. But I think, as

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01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: Paul will tell you when we're watching games up in

1781
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: the press box and Mac lobs won and well, part

1782
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 4: of that is get there.

1783
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 5: Part of that is the depth perception that we deal

1784
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 5: no seriously because I mean that I thought that on

1785
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 5: a lot of different throws that I've seen over the years,

1786
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 5: not just Mac, but you know, like I think back

1787
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 5: to the playoff game in Buffalo. I mean, I know

1788
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: a lot of people just you know, everybody just we'll

1789
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 5: take a lot of touchdowns on like seven drives.

1790
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did, they did.

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01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 5: They also had a chance to score when they had

1792
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 5: the ball and didn't like the first I don't know

1793
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 5: five times they had it, and the first drive of

1794
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 5: that game was actually probably the best driver of the

1795
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 5: whole night. And they moved the ball down into scoring

1796
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 5: territory and they dialed up a play that was there

1797
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 5: and the receiver was open, and the deep ball that

1798
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 5: mac threw took a little too long to get there

1799
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 5: and was thrown in the wrong side. It was a

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01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 5: little short and it got picked off, remember, unfortunately by

1801
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 5: one of the safeties, because they're the same to me, Jordan,

1802
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 5: it was one of them. And evidently it was the

1803
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: greatest play in the history of safety play because that's

1804
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 5: everybody has completely absolved the quarterback of any responsibility for

1805
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 5: that play.

1806
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: Well, Evan puts some on Agla for not going up

1807
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 4: for that, I think.

1808
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 5: For not doing much to break it up, but the

1809
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 5: fact that it wasn't a touchdown is one hundred percent

1810
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 5: on the quarterback.

1811
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,799
Speaker 9: I think the biggest issue is that you watch Macla.

1812
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 9: I think Max fine, like, could be worse, could be better.

1813
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 4: But sure, that's exactly how I feel about.

1814
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 9: It's fine, he gets the job done, but then you

1815
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 9: get to like, you know, the Monday night game, the

1816
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 9: Sunday night game, and you're watching mahomes Josh Allen, and

1817
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 9: like that's a different level arm strength and there's just

1818
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 9: so much more speed on the ball.

1819
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 5: So and I knew, I knew Evan was leaving when

1820
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 5: when him and Alex had to go in and do

1821
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 5: the interviews. But like, you know, and that was part

1822
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 5: of what I would I would clap back with. And

1823
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 5: you know, his numbers were actually pretty good, good when

1824
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 5: when he was protected. I'd just like to like to

1825
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 5: see the quarterback whose numbers are bad when protected. I

1826
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 5: don't think there are any, you know, I think that

1827
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 5: most guys, if they're given the time and they're in

1828
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 5: the NFL, they gotta find ways to complete passes. I

1829
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 5: think the ones that separate themselves are the ones that

1830
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 5: can do it quickly and the ones that can do

1831
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 5: it off platform.

1832
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 4: I think two. The interesting thing for me that I

1833
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: always hate, I hate bringing up Brady with these kind

1834
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 4: of things, but just when a game is going one way,

1835
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 4: and you know, I just I think the big thing

1836
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 4: with the Mac offense of the last couple of years

1837
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 4: is just they struggle to flip the switch in a

1838
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 4: game and if it starts off bad, it kind of

1839
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 4: stays bad, you know. I mean, I think last year

1840
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: with Minnesota, you got maybe a little bit of them,

1841
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 4: like it wasn't great, but then they kind of picked

1842
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: it up and started playing well. I just feel a

1843
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: lot with this team. You get what you get when

1844
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 4: with them, like what you see out of the shoot

1845
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 4: against the bat they come out there looking feeling good

1846
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 4: against the bad team. And I agree with that, you know.

1847
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 5: I think, especially when they start bad, it doesn't generally

1848
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 5: turn around. Now that Minnesota game was the opposite. They

1849
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 5: started good and then finished bad. They couldn't do anything

1850
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. But for the most part, I

1851
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 5: would agree with you. I've seen them have, you know,

1852
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 5: not much success in the first quarter of games, and

1853
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 5: it doesn't generally just magically turn around. And hopefully with

1854
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 5: the coaching change, we won't see as much of that,

1855
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 5: see a little bit more consistency with production.

1856
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 4: Well, SPI is weighing in here via email Happy fourth.

1857
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, he said, Hey, matis amazing episode when

1858
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 4: Joe met her mom, right, I don't know what that means.

1859
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 4: Speed speed speed right in a deep right there, he said. Anyway,

1860
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 4: if MLB wears a Maglio jersey during the pitch, it

1861
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: will be the height of hypocrisy. And I hope you

1862
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 4: call her out because oh that's a good point. Not

1863
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 4: a jersey, But I would allow the exception because don't

1864
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: you have to wear like to do that?

1865
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that sort of be something they give you.

1866
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 4: She can't go out like all glammed up like meg

1867
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 4: moa rant like in her.

1868
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 5: Wwe Oh they can't do that. I can't throw it that.

1869
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 5: You make a wrong move and all of a sudden

1870
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 5: it's Janet Jackson.

1871
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: He got to just keep smelling it now.

1872
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 4: I miss Megan. I was excited for though. That's that's

1873
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 4: that's Cody, Cody and Indiana ways in. Hey, guys, I

1874
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 4: have an over under for Paul. What are the chances

1875
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 4: of getting a Pats from the Past featuring none other

1876
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 4: than Tom Brady over under? Twenty five percent? Just want

1877
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: to that series is awesome and you guys do a

1878
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 4: great job of it.

1879
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 5: I'll take the under, but that doesn't mean what we

1880
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 5: won't try.

1881
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he you know what, that might be a

1882
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 4: life taping.

1883
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing is my guess is in the

1884
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 5: coming years, we're going to have Tom Brady here on

1885
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 5: I would say multiple occasions to honor him, and I

1886
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 5: would never say never if we can get him, just

1887
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 5: you know, he's Who's who's honored Tom Brady? Who's honor?

1888
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 4: Got it it? Your family's on it all right? Every

1889
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: now and then it's some nonsense.

1890
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 5: You have to apologize, you up, you have to apologize

1891
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 5: to me for that because I didn't get it immediately.

1892
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 4: That's on me. That's honor, bro. That wasn't on you.

1893
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 4: Mand was on mere would have right now.

1894
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 5: But who's honor?

1895
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 4: I was.

1896
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 5: I was playing the role of a straight man in

1897
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 5: that one. Excuse me, Tom, but he's gonna be here.

1898
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 5: And I would say, there's always when you have the

1899
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 5: guy already here, there's always a chance. Now, I would

1900
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 5: say less than twenty five percent, because I'm not sure

1901
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 5: that's something that's on his radar. Like to sit down

1902
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 5: for a half hour forty five minutes with Matt Smith.

1903
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm sure it would be good.

1904
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't know how how really good it would be, Like,

1905
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 4: I mean, he seems kind of guarded. Maybe it could

1906
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 4: be good, But I'm gonna say, now, why not get

1907
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 4: very if you could get Rabel, you know, at some.

1908
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 5: Point absolutely try to get him. And we have a

1909
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 5: couple in the works that we're trying to get. I'm

1910
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 5: not going to say the names in case they don't

1911
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 5: end up coming to fruition, but there should be a

1912
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 5: couple at least one in the near future, like within

1913
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 5: the next couple of weeks.

1914
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: Like Mike Cloud, maybe getting those deep this is good.

1915
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 4: I got Actually I had a question for you, maybe

1916
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: I can do it on the air to tease. So

1917
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 4: gonna try to do a two thousand and three podcasts

1918
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 4: like I did for two thousand and one, and I was,

1919
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 4: you know, trying to build the roster of people to interview,

1920
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 4: and Mike Cloud just popped up as a name to

1921
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 4: me of like, who would be kind of an interesting

1922
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 4: perspective of a guy who just kind of was here

1923
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 4: for one year. It didn't really you know, was somehow

1924
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 4: involved in it. But I see game. I don't know

1925
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 4: if that's any Tennessee. Yeah, I mean he had a

1926
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: couple like I think he had like five or six

1927
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 4: touchdowns during the year. I don't know if there are

1928
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 4: players you think from two thousand and three you'd really

1929
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 4: like to hear from from that two thousand and three

1930
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 4: oh four, that that that was what I was kind

1931
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 4: of looking. I mean, Copin is an interesting one because

1932
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 4: he was a rookie, you know, kind of coming in

1933
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 4: but teeing that up a little bit.

1934
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 16: Uh.

1935
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 4: And if you guys have ideas, please please send them

1936
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: my way. I got to read this one though. Chris

1937
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 4: from New Hampshire weighing in about our favorite restaurant teas

1938
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 4: are your Josey Mikes guy? How big are you? You're

1939
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 4: not as big as you got me onto it. Now

1940
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 4: you have the King of Jersey Mike's re entering the

1941
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 4: student cut that meat. Y'all have convinced me to give

1942
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 4: Jersey Mikes a second chance went years ago, and oh boy,

1943
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: it was awful. I've just finished eating the super Sub

1944
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 4: Mike's way. Good for you taken on a super sub

1945
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 4: and will admit I'm rather pleased. I'm planning on trying

1946
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 4: the big Kahuna next. Does anyone have a must try recommendation? Oh?

1947
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 5: Is the super sub specific sub?

1948
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 4: I think you're right. Originally just took that as I

1949
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 4: was thinking of everyone. I don't know what I'm not,

1950
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 4: but I think super side all the meats. Why are

1951
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 4: we asking questions, what a wondering what is the Super

1952
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 4: Football film? And it is.

1953
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 3: I believe it's the one that has like the seven

1954
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 3: different types of meats or whatever it is that they

1955
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: have on the on the on the menu, right, you know,

1956
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: I cam and beat roast, beef and turkey, and I

1957
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: believe that one I think is like it's a warm

1958
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 3: I think it's a chicken or cheese, steak, syriaki. Yeah, yeah,

1959
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 3: it's something. It's it's a it's a grilled sub. It's

1960
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,520
Speaker 3: not a it's not a cold.

1961
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 9: Take a steak and cheese, hot peppers. Keep a simple the.

1962
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 5: Chipotle steak and cheese. That's really really good.

1963
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 9: If I'm going that direct, I'm not a cold sandwich. Guys.

1964
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 5: Well, I generally go with the thirteen. But that's just

1965
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 5: you know, straight straight Italian.

1966
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 4: All Right, I finally got a Star Wars question, and

1967
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 4: I'm Paul, You're just gonna have to humor us here

1968
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 4: for a second, and I'm gonna I'm like, I'm a

1969
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 4: same player. I can play along. I love Matt Morela

1970
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: to weigh in on this too, so Matt, listen up,

1971
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 4: hey gang. Earlier this week I went to see Return

1972
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: of the Jedi in the theaters for the fortieth anniversary

1973
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 4: of episode six. I'll ask a Star Wars question. Thank you, Eric,

1974
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: what's your favorite Star Wars movie? And why there?

1975
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 9: You go?

1976
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: Pretty easy? Maybe a basic candor, but mine is episode five.

1977
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: Just love seeing Vader vers Luke. May the fourth be

1978
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 4: with you and go Pats Evan.

1979
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 3: I have an opinion about how they labeled the episodes. Perfect, Okay,

1980
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 3: it's one through three and everything else, Like, did I

1981
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 3: understand the diehard Star Wars fans or such? I shouldn't

1982
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: say that I don't know what the diami and everything else. Yeah,

1983
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: there's no there's.

1984
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 4: Because that's Morell's tape. There's no.

1985
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 3: There's no like four five six is not four five six,

1986
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: four five six is one two three? All right, But

1987
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 3: the pre quills and the New ones don't don't count. Okay,

1988
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: that's that's my my.

1989
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 5: You think that's strongly against them. They don't even count.

1990
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I they're good, Marilla.

1991
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 4: You're about to get choked out by a former marine.

1992
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: There's there, there's former marines.

1993
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 3: There are. There are good qualities about the prequels and

1994
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 3: the New Ones, but the original trilogy is the original

1995
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 3: trilogy right like there there's no there's no touch in

1996
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: the originals. That's that's all I'm saying. That's that's coming

1997
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 3: from somebody that is too young to have seen them,

1998
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: like when they originally came out, too, And I'm telling

1999
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: you that.

2000
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 9: What was that?

2001
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 5: Like I told you I saw Star Wars when it

2002
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 5: originally came out in in the.

2003
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 9: I'm an Empire starkes back Guy Empires. The thing is like,

2004
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,799
Speaker 9: like I was so young because my grandparents had the VHS,

2005
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 9: so that's like what I watched growing up. But I

2006
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 9: remember seeing the special edition Attack of the Clones in

2007
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 9: theaters and I loved it. But now when I look

2008
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 9: back on.

2009
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 4: Matt anything to say, he's just he's bright red, he looks.

2010
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Fantom Menace is my favorite Star Wars. No, it's not,

2011
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: absolutely is It's awesome.

2012
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 3: The dialogue is your favorite Star Wars movie?

2013
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: Double just really like rand Force uses.

2014
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 9: Epic, I love. I loved Force Awakens until the others

2015
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 9: came out. Now I don't like anymore.

2016
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna handle those movies. Because c G.

2017
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: I was new and agree.

2018
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 3: I was a product Marine on this. Phantom Menace was

2019
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: the first Star Wars that my generation got to see

2020
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: in theaters and and do that whole thing with so

2021
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 3: that I, as a kid, I probably watched Phantom Menace

2022
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 3: a hundred times because what did I know about the

2023
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: the you know, the quality of the movie, his lightsabers,

2024
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 3: his gun fights, there's you know, the flying around and

2025
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: things like how what more could you as a as

2026
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 3: an eight year old kid? What more could you possibly want?

2027
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 9: The best best movie poster ever is probably that way.

2028
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 4: There were there was so much hype. I'm Empire. I

2029
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: had a record of Empire that I used to just

2030
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 4: listen to, so that whole movie is burning in my brain.

2031
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 4: I also just shout out Rogue one and the whole

2032
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 4: Mando thing, like I just think that that stuff has

2033
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 4: been amazing and or that was great.

2034
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: Too, and the Duel of the Fates the best soundtrack.

2035
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: So I got to take on this. I knew this

2036
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: was gonna come up with your son. I knew this

2037
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 4: was gonna come up. I knew this was gonna come up.

2038
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 4: And and I think the reason you can't take that

2039
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 4: away from Matt is because and and for you guys

2040
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: is that you saw it as kids. So that was

2041
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 4: like so at the time, you weren't like judging a

2042
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 4: movie from that, so it's was a favorite. There's plenty

2043
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 4: of movies I watched as a kid that were are

2044
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 4: terrible now, but I would just say like I was

2045
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 4: like a college senior when Phantom Menace came out, and

2046
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 4: I'm big Star Wars NERD was so excited. I bought

2047
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 4: like the soundtrack. I'm listening to Duel of the Fates.

2048
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this is gonna be so awesome. And

2049
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 4: then you know, it's just like right as I'm graduating

2050
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 4: from college. We we actually had like one of the

2051
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 4: final nights at Holy Cross. Everybody dressed up, so we went,

2052
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: Me and all my buddies all as all the Star Wars.

2053
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 4: We put a keg on rollerblades with duct tape and

2054
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: rolled the keg in is R two D two. That's

2055
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 4: how like excited we all were. And then I went

2056
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 4: and I saw it and I was like, what.

2057
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 3: It was just amazing, Like talking to two people, you know,

2058
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 3: my age and with marine and stuff like our our

2059
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: view of Phantom Menace is so much different than people

2060
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: that were a little bit older than us when it

2061
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 3: came out, and that I think is is really interesting.

2062
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 3: I love Empire. The first like hour of Return of

2063
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 3: the Jedi, though, is is fantastic in my mind. I

2064
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 3: think that was the first real introduction to like you know,

2065
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 3: oh sorry I was I was too young for that, micuh,

2066
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: but the first that like Luke is like a full

2067
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 3: on Jedi at that point, right, so he's you know,

2068
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: when he takes down the job of the hut. That

2069
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 3: that right there was like my iconic scene as a kid,

2070
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 3: just remembering him, you know, do the flip and the

2071
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 3: lightsaber and just go on as.

2072
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, we better get off of this before

2073
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 4: we lose.

2074
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 5: That was fantastic, not at all, I will say this.

2075
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 5: You know, the Phantom Menace when it came out, it

2076
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 5: was a little bit before I started here, And uh, Fred,

2077
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 5: who is I think Matt, You're probably the only one

2078
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 5: that would blow Fred away in terms of your just

2079
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 5: fandom for Star Wars. He declared her the day off

2080
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 5: for the entire department. He had the intern at the

2081
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 5: time go stand it because this was before like you know,

2082
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 5: all the the onset of all the online and phones

2083
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So he had an intern go

2084
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 5: and stand in line and get tickets for everybody, and

2085
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 5: it was required that they all went, and they all went.

2086
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 5: You know, Brian Morey was still here. I'm guessing Mike

2087
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 5: Reese was still here. You know, some of the people

2088
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 5: behind the scenes in production and design, they all went

2089
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 5: to Phantom Menace because Fred declared it a requirement.

2090
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 17: Had we not been on year for the draft, we

2091
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 17: all would have been all at Patriot Place watching Return

2092
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 17: of the Jedi.

2093
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 3: I would have gone, we all.

2094
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 2: You would have been there too. I would drag you.

2095
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you wouldn't have been. Yeah, I

2096
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta agree with Christopher Colfax, hero who writes

2097
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 4: and he says, my personal favorite is Revenge of the Sith,

2098
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 4: which I for me is the only you know that's okay?

2099
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 4: That one's pretty good. Lightsaber battle choreography is incredible in

2100
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 4: the prequels, particularly number three. However, more importantly, Lord of

2101
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 4: the Rings is better.

2102
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 3: You you get out of here right, absolutely, not, oh

2103
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: my goodness, but Revenge of the Sith. My cousin he's eighteen,

2104
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 3: and he's really into Star Wars more than new stuff

2105
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 3: obviously than than the old stuff. But that's the one

2106
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: movie that my aunt is like, I'll watch that one

2107
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: with him like that one's actually like pretty pretty good,

2108
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: but he u he loves you know, Kylo Wren and

2109
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 3: like all the new villains and he's a villains.

2110
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 4: I just want to go up to a nd No,

2111
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 4: it's terrible.

2112
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 3: Stop there. So yeah, he went to not terrible. He

2113
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:01,560
Speaker 3: went to Star Wars in Disney and he made a

2114
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 3: lightsaber at the lightsaber thing and he made a red

2115
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 3: lightsaber and I couldn't go because during the season and

2116
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 3: he comes home with it and I'm like checking it out.

2117
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, this thing is so super cool and I'm

2118
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 3: and I and I was like, oh, of course it's red,

2119
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 3: like because he's Darth Vader and Kylo are his two favorites.

2120
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 3: And uh my, my parents and my aunt are like wait,

2121
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 3: like it's like the villains. It's red because he likes

2122
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 3: evil people. Like this is not good. And I was like,

2123
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 3: let the kid live. I like whatever he wants.

2124
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 4: I've been to the Disneyland make your Own Lightsaber factory

2125
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 4: and it's like super cool. I was like I was

2126
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 4: near now when I was six years old again, because

2127
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 4: I grew up with like a flashlight. You know, you're

2128
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 4: making the noise. You never really actually have now they

2129
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 4: have like these real ones that that look real all right.

2130
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 3: The Disney wants are Lightsaber the one he has.

2131
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 5: You guys, when someone writes in and gives me a

2132
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 5: quiz on past Patriots numbers, you guys, don't storm off

2133
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 5: on a set.

2134
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: No, I just I just in awe of you of

2135
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 4: your knowledge. But we will just jump back to the

2136
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 4: funds real quick, because Christian's been hanging on. Hey, Christian,

2137
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: how a chrish jhan.

2138
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 9: Oh lost him?

2139
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 4: No, nothing's still there, man, he probably he probably zoned

2140
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 4: out about the Star Wars up. Let's keep it going though, Patty, Patty.

2141
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?

2142
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 25: Guys?

2143
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 4: Star Wars? Get us off it?

2144
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 25: All right, I'll throw a Star Wars opinion out, but

2145
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 25: I wanted to throw it at an opinion I had.

2146
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 25: Uh the other night. Might have been the marijuana that

2147
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 25: was making me think of think about this. But you

2148
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 25: know how we always say, like, you know, look at

2149
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 25: what Bill does. Don't don't listen to what he says.

2150
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 25: And I think, just from my perspective, I think the

2151
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 25: whole Mac thing got blown out of proportion just because

2152
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Speaker 25: I think if it was really that bad, if it

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01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 25: was really that toxic. I mean, we've seen him bench

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01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 25: Malcolm Butler in the biggest game of the frigging year.

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01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 25: He knew he had a quarterback that could play sitting

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01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 25: behind Max. But I think if that was really that

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01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 25: bad as bad as like it got blow enough to

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01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 25: be that he would have just started Bailey for like

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01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 25: three or four of the last games.

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Speaker 5: But I'll say, what if it wasn't his choice.

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01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,919
Speaker 25: Well, maybe he might be right, Paul.

2162
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 4: But oh, I don't. I'm not.

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01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 5: I'm just given another side of it. I'm not necessarily

2164
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 5: giving you what my view of that is. But it

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Speaker 5: may not have been his choice.

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01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 25: But we've also heard Roberts say that, like he lets.

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01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 4: He loves him the football thing.

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Speaker 5: But he also has said many times that he loves

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01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 5: Mac and Bill hasn't.

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Speaker 25: Before the before I get to my start wars quick

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01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 25: one at you who was known as the Undertaker?

2172
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 4: Was that? I missed the question?

2173
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 25: What former Patriot player was known as the Undertaker?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Vincent Brown, Yes, sir, So I like Phantom Menace.

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01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 25: I was twenty two when it came out. I thought

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01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 25: it was actually not that bad of a movie. I mean,

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Speaker 25: I think, all.

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01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,759
Speaker 5: Right, I think it's just one of the greatest calls

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01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 5: that we've ever had. I mean, he touched on on

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01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 5: current day, Current Day Patriots with Mac and Bill, Old

2181
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 5: School with Vincent Brown, and now he brings it back

2182
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 5: on topic with Star Wars.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is a great Jordan's furnishure.

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01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: You get it for free.

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01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 5: Well done, Well done, Patty.

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01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 25: But you know, jar Jar was annoying, and I think

2187
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 25: too many people talking about things getting overblown. I mean,

2188
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 25: if you take Jarjar out of the movie, it's a

2189
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 25: really good movie. And as far as like the News

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01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 25: sequel series, I thought The Force Awakens was definitely the

2191
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 25: best of the bunch. I think they really missed the

2192
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 25: boat on the last Jedi. You know, that's that's just

2193
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 25: my opinion of And of course this may sound ridiculous,

2194
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 25: like I think Godfather Too is a better movie, but

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01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 25: Godfather wons my favorite of the series in the same

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01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 25: sense like the original Star Wars is my favorite movie

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01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 25: of all time. But I will admit that Empire is

2198
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 25: a better movie. If that makes any sort of sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a fair point.

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01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, it totally makes sense. Thanks, Patty.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think you can qualify the first one

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01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 4: as like being part of the judgment of what's the

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01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 4: best one, because there wouldn't be any of this without

2204
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 4: that one. It just kind of stands above that.

2205
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 5: You know, what if I told you that, what if

2206
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 5: I told you the only one I've put.

2207
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 4: At thirty for thirty first, that'd be all right, Paul,

2208
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 4: you got things to do. Although DJ Rhymes chimes in,

2209
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 4: Rogue one is the best Star Wars movie, and I'm

2210
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 4: old enough to say that Keon White is going to

2211
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 4: be a monster, and you guys are the best podcast

2212
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 4: in existence. Thanks for picking me up twice to thrice.

2213
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 4: Another great emails a week, another great.

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01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 3: Well that they have very different opinions on the first

2215
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 3: two things, he said, So I'm surprised that.

2216
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 4: Evan's so great. Lee Lee chimes in and said, I

2217
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 4: really liked Evan until he said he was eight when

2218
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 4: The Phantom Menace came out. Get off my lawn, Lazare Yeah,

2219
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 4: I say it all the time.

2220
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: Get I think I might have been even younger. I

2221
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: want to say, Phantom Menace is ninety eighty nine.

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01:36:58,560 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 4: Seven.

2223
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 3: It was just before I started work seven.

2224
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: That's ten.

2225
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. Robert Robert in San Diego via Connecticut just chimed

2226
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 4: in and said, the best Star Wars movie is clearly Spaceball.

2227
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 4: You've seen space Schwartz. Schwartz is as big as mine.

2228
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 3: Rogue one is fantastic, But like, let's not it's not

2229
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 3: the greatest Star Wars movie of all of all. No,

2230
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: let's let's relax with that. It's a great it's it's

2231
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 3: the best of the New ones by far.

2232
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely dark, and you're like, at a certain point

2233
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 4: in movie, you're like, are they gonna die? Like crazy?

2234
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 4: Really going where?

2235
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 9: I think it's just crazy? They cut out, like what

2236
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 9: an hour of it? Matt, you hear about that?

2237
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a disaster. There were a lot of

2238
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 4: like you know, shots from like them running across it,

2239
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 4: like get shot at It never actually happened. I recut,

2240
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 4: but hey, it all worked out right.

2241
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 3: And then the end scene with with Vader and the

2242
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 3: whole thing. I just the movie boilers for fantastic. Like

2243
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 3: Paul hasn't even seen the two and three. He's not

2244
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 3: going to go on to Road one.

2245
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 4: I like he saw the original Star Wars the Empires.

2246
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 4: He probably had some friends that were excited to go

2247
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 4: see it. He's like, man, good. No, I liked it,

2248
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 4: like I'm drinking, I got girls.

2249
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 5: No, I went with my my grandmother actually took my

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01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 5: brother and I to see it, and.

2251
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 4: We we all like we liked it.

2252
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I guess maybe I was a little

2253
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 5: older when Empire came out and I was kind of

2254
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:19,759
Speaker 5: not really as interested.

2255
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Speaker 4: I don't. I'm just it doesn't.

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01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 5: I wish that I had a passion for it, like

2257
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 5: you guys do really for anything. No, I mean, I

2258
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 5: just it's just not my thing, Like Matt, Matt makes

2259
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 5: fun of me all the time. It's the same with

2260
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 5: all the like the comic book, like the superhero movies,

2261
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 5: and you know, I like, what is it twenty is

2262
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 5: it twenty three of them? How many of the like

2263
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 5: the marvel in thirties?

2264
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 4: Like too much time for that.

2265
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 5: I've probably seen five of them, you know, maybe and

2266
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 5: I've never seen one that I came out. Oh my god,

2267
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 5: I can't believe I just watching. No, they're entertaining, like

2268
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 5: I enjoy them, it's just not.

2269
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 2: I was number twenty three on my shirt.

2270
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 4: It's just not my thing. That's That's a lot. And

2271
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 4: and and Reno emails in and says, on this day,

2272
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 4: May the fourth belive you. I've got to say, I've

2273
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 4: never seen a single Star Wars movie, and I'm twenty eight,

2274
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 4: so it's not like I'm young. Ca Marie, Matt and

2275
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 4: Deuce and everybody else. Explain why one day I should

2276
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 4: watch them. I'm not gonna say you should watch all them.

2277
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 4: Just watch the original Star Wars.

2278
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 16: Do it.

2279
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 2: You don't appreciate it, I don't watch you watch it

2280
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 2: go somewhere else.

2281
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 3: I love that.

2282
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 9: I'm saying, if you had the three years of the

2283
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 9: pandemic and you didn't watch it, just don't.

2284
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it might not be your thing, but

2285
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 4: I think I don't think anybody's gonna be mad to

2286
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,879
Speaker 4: sit through a new Hope and feel like I've burned,

2287
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 4: you know, hours a month. It's an easy watch.

2288
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 3: The best thing I can, I guess I can say

2289
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 3: about it is is like I don't know. I was

2290
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: obviously very a nerd, as you could probably tell as

2291
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,759
Speaker 3: a kid, and that was like living out they lived

2292
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 3: out in the movie. What like you're you would live

2293
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 3: out if you were in space and like you were,

2294
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 3: you know, in that world, right like you could you

2295
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: could put yourself in their shoes and be like dang,

2296
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 3: it would be like super cool to like fire around

2297
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: the Millennium falcon and like, you know, do all this

2298
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 3: crazy stuff. And that was like what got me into

2299
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 3: it one hundred percent was you know, I had all

2300
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 3: the lightsabers, and you know, you had you did all

2301
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 3: this stuff as a kid, and you just like put

2302
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 3: yourself in that world and you immerse yourself in and

2303
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yeah, this is I used to.

2304
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 4: Take my take my han solo guy and I put

2305
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 4: him in a cup of water and I'd freeze him

2306
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 4: and then I'd wait, you know, like actually seven hours later,

2307
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Okay, he's frozen, and they'd be like right,

2308
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 4: melt hm out.

2309
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 5: Now.

2310
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2311
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a lot of banker, but kind of

2312
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 4: like lobster.

2313
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 3: I wanted I was more of a luke guy. I'm

2314
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 3: not gonna lie.

2315
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 5: What year did Empire Strikes Back come out?

2316
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 4: Eighty eighty? Yes, yeah, I think it was eighty and

2317
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 4: eighty three or.

2318
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 5: Four, because it was seventy I think it was seventy seven, right.

2319
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 4: For the original seven eighty, So like I'm just thinking

2320
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 4: I was nine woint and then twelve.

2321
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 5: Like to me, there's a little bit of a difference there.

2322
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 5: Maybe I just wasn't as interested in going to see

2323
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,520
Speaker 5: at that time, you know, because.

2324
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 4: You know, well you were probably like into girls and

2325
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: boosting cars correctly, well, boosting cars, not so much.

2326
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Completely infetchated was playing with the save you were, Skywalker?

2327
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 4: I bet you were playing with something all right, he's back,

2328
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: Christian from la Hey, Christian, thanks for calling back in.

2329
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 15: Hey guys, Yeah, made the Fourth be with you.

2330
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 13: I remember how important Star Wars was to me because

2331
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 13: in this galaxy far far away, a long long time ago,

2332
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 13: which was the past I was. I was flabbergasted by

2333
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 13: the fact that everyone had British accent. I'm like, how

2334
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 13: the hell was the British empire that far back?

2335
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 4: Eventually you just ruined Star Wars for us.

2336
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 20: Thanks.

2337
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 13: Eventually I saw the one and only person of African

2338
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 13: descent like me in the movies, you know, Billy d

2339
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 13: Williams as and let me tell you, I went as

2340
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 13: Lando cal Risian for the next five years. The Fourth,

2341
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 13: guys that I just switched that this year for us,

2342
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 13: for a team I over under is I believe that

2343
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 13: the addition of ju jusus guys, and maybe I'll to

2344
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 13: fly it pan out. I think I can win. I'll

2345
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 13: let you guys take it from there. But I made

2346
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 13: it fun with your guys always.

2347
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it, just to share. I use a

2348
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 4: Lando quote a lot that it just comes out of me.

2349
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 4: What do we here? Yeah, that's mine.

2350
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 3: I actually really liked uh. I know, Solo is something

2351
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 3: that is a very touchy subject. I think for a

2352
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 3: lot of Star Wars people about it actually being good

2353
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 3: or not. But I love the scenes of like young

2354
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 3: Lando and like getting to understand how they became friends,

2355
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 3: and because he just kind of comes out of nowhere

2356
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 3: in the originals and it's just like, oh, I just

2357
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 3: have this buddy named Lando who can help us. So

2358
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 3: it's just cool to get those types of backstories.

2359
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 2: It was a good movie. You got screwed on its

2360
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: release date.

2361
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 3: I agree. I thought Solo was pretty solid as well.

2362
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 5: I saw it in anybody Who's angry about this?

2363
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: We went to Jordan's Furniture and Natick and saw it

2364
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 3: in the Imax, me and my cousin. I really enjoyed it. Actually,

2365
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 3: it did.

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Speaker 5: So how many of the movies morel You're probably not

2367
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 5: a good gauge on this, but how many of the

2368
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 5: Star Wars movies. Did you guys actually physically go to

2369
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 5: a theater to see.

2370
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,919
Speaker 9: Like everything from Phantom Menesot, Yeah.

2371
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 4: I've seen. I've seen all nine of all New two.

2372
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 4: I think I've seen all.

2373
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 5: Of them because I was thinking, maybe, you know, as

2374
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 5: an excuse for myself, which obviously is not an excuse

2375
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 5: at all, because you guys just blew it up. Then

2376
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 5: you always like you had no other alternative. Well, you

2377
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 5: weren't getting a DVD, you weren't plugging it in your VCR,

2378
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 5: you weren't waiting for it to come out on Netflix,

2379
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 5: like you had to go to the theater to see it.

2380
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's been three three you guys all did that.

2381
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Well it's been three. Well it's three separate things for

2382
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 4: me because as a kid, I went with my parents

2383
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 4: going to the theater, and I guess they took me

2384
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 4: down Press Strike strikes back a bunch, they said. Then

2385
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 4: I was like in my twenties, like graduating college in

2386
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 4: my twenties, and it was like, you know, we're kind

2387
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 4: of like just everybody was so excited. But then these

2388
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:50,600
Speaker 4: last ones, it's been cool because I have kids and

2389
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 4: you get to like experience it with them and share

2390
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 4: the passion you have for it. I mean, I'm far

2391
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 4: more connected with my kids about Star Wars than the Patriots, Like.

2392
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 5: Well, that's why I feel with my cousin, any of

2393
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 5: the Batman's or Spider Man, any of those that I've seen,

2394
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 5: it's all been taking my kids Batman versus Superman like,

2395
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 5: like I said, every one of them I've gone to see,

2396
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 5: I've never left and said, I can't believe I just

2397
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 5: wasted my money on that.

2398
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 4: That's just how it worked.

2399
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 9: What was the one that came out again, I forget

2400
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 9: the name of the Attack of the Clones, Revenge of

2401
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 9: the Revenge of Sith. I saw that at the well

2402
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 9: Fleet drive in. It was a double feature and that

2403
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 9: was first. I was so excited. And then The Longest

2404
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 9: Yard of Adam Sandler was on after and I like

2405
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 9: that way more.

2406
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,799
Speaker 4: The original Longest Yard. I think if they remade Revenge

2407
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 4: of the sit they could they could really knock it

2408
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 4: out of the park if they really really wanted to

2409
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 4: take it to the next level. Speed speech chiming in

2410
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 4: about and or Yes, and or was was very good.

2411
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 4: It was like an adult Star Wars show, not not

2412
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 4: all the fan service kind of stuff, but but just

2413
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 4: probably good TV show. Alright, I'm trying to find some

2414
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 4: football stuff here.

2415
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 5: It's okay, do you have any now you're embracing the

2416
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 5: off season, Yeah, there you go.

2417
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 3: If it's about Star Wars.

2418
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 4: J Just so you know, a lot of.

2419
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 5: The shows are about Star Wars.

2420
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,839
Speaker 4: What uh what? What was up with the gaziki?

2421
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 3: Though we talked about Star Wars for the whole time.

2422
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 3: He did mention that he's he's just gonna let it

2423
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 3: come natural, right, He's not He's not. Multiple people he did. Yeah,

2424
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 3: he did say that he's not ruling it out. That

2425
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, he's not saying like, oh it's dead. You know,

2426
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it. He said he's not

2427
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 3: ruling it out. Somebody did ask him if he compared

2428
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 3: his to Mac Jones as yet and and there was

2429
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 3: that kind of back and forth. But I think that

2430
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 3: the two things that that stood out about him were,

2431
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 3: you know, he's he just looks like an athlete, which

2432
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 3: we knew because he's a great athlete, and he tested

2433
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 3: out of the out of the moon at the Combine

2434
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 3: when he came out of Penn State. But look, just

2435
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 3: looks the part, right, just come in the room, tall,

2436
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 3: athletic build, just exactly what you would expect. And I

2437
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting what he was saying about the

2438
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 3: connections that he has to Bill O'Brien into this offense.

2439
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 3: You know, chat O'Shea and some of the Patriot coaches

2440
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 3: that were down there with Brian Flores in Miami, and

2441
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 3: that Bill Brian recruited him to Penn State, didn't actually

2442
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 3: coach him at Penn State because he went to the

2443
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 3: Texans before that, but recruited him out to Penn State.

2444
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 3: So he said he kind of just picked up right

2445
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 3: where they left off back in twenty thirteen on those

2446
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 3: recruiting visits and things like that. So I'm cautiously optimistic that,

2447
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, I think we all know that to beat

2448
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 3: out Johnny Smith's production is not really going to take

2449
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 3: a whole lot out of Micah Siki, But I think

2450
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 3: that he's one of those guys that seems like he's

2451
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: buying in immediately to the program. The last thing that

2452
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 3: he did say that's probably gonna it's the most impression

2453
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 3: tweets so far from the press conference on my feet,

2454
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 3: and that is that he was roommates with Mac Jones

2455
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 3: for a little while. When he first got to New

2456
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 3: England back in March, she was living in Mac and

2457
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 3: Sophie's basement. So that was the big one. I think

2458
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 3: was as well as some bodying since yeah, he said that,

2459
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, the Mexic got a pretty good setup over there.

2460
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 3: We're not gonna say where, We're gonna say over there.

2461
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 4: Pretty good son. Yeah, yeah, now you got a tight

2462
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 4: end living with us.

2463
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2464
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 4: I had to go into myself, why is she like,

2465
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. That's that's my character

2466
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 4: and I'm sticking to it that she's just like it

2467
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 4: is so bizarre. Sorry to go back to Star Wars percent,

2468
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 4: but Speed chimes in and speak, credit to you for

2469
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 4: all the great emails. But he says Jedi is my

2470
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 4: favorite of them all. But adding the CGI to the

2471
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 4: episodes was the national tragedy. They ruined the band in

2472
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 4: Jabba's Palace and the ewok Yupnubs song. I agree one

2473
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 4: hundred percent. Like I just the changes that they went

2474
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 4: back and made it just like takes me.

2475
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me ask you guys this uch.

2476
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 5: You guys are missing the visual of the utter disgust

2477
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 5: that Morrell has with every passing email, so price because

2478
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 5: I'll tell.

2479
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 3: You, kid, Evin really wonders this a lot about this.

2480
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 3: What was the difference between jar Jar and the Ewoks,

2481
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 3: because like they're both kind of these like annoying, like

2482
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 3: Disney esque things that like we really don't need.

2483
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 5: I don't know it just now, Morel's gonna say, well,

2484
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 5: if you don't know, I'm not.

2485
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 9: Gonna you can see the steam coming out of No.

2486
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like I think that I think Jargar

2487
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 3: is worse.

2488
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 2: Don't you writing that they turned the lightsaber blue instead

2489
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 2: of white?

2490
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Really really it's clearly worse. But I'm just saying, like, what.

2491
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 4: Line. That's a great line, Morel, we're on video map

2492
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 4: that supports your.

2493
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 3: I he should be sitting here.

2494
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 5: I mean he's actually you should be sitting Then you

2495
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 5: guys could have your.

2496
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 4: Star Wars fil monsters.

2497
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 5: Little.

2498
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 3: I think Charger gets an unfair shake.

2499
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean someone I just lost the email here,

2500
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 4: like Fred, they're not magically deleting. But but somebody mentioned

2501
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 4: that at one point the plan was to have jar

2502
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 4: j RB. It was always the ultimate bad guy with

2503
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 4: villain right.

2504
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 9: It was always jar was.

2505
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 17: Gonna be the ultimate sithe and then they, uh, he

2506
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 17: was racist and.

2507
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 5: Said, so you said that on the show. It was

2508
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 5: he was so hated that they.

2509
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 2: When we're eating the draft the other day, Yeah, yeah,

2510
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 2: I know.

2511
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 4: I see. There's nothing about him that looks intimidating, like

2512
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 4: you're never like you can't.

2513
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 9: That's a bit of bad call.

2514
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 4: Uh let's jump back to the phone here real quick

2515
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 4: as we come down the home stretch with Jake and Georgia. Hey, Jake,

2516
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 4: thanks for calling in.

2517
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 15: Hey guys, star Wars fan. Unfortunately, I grew up not

2518
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 15: actually watching any of it, but during COVID i was

2519
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 15: Spike TV, I was like, Okay, you know what, I'm

2520
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 15: just gonna watch the entire original trilogy all at once.

2521
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 15: Ended up loving it, and The Force Awakens was coming out,

2522
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 15: and that's that took my fandom to.

2523
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 12: A whole new level.

2524
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 15: I would say that I really despised Star Wars fans.

2525
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 2: No one's like I'm heavy at you.

2526
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 14: There's no consensus on like what's good out there for

2527
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 14: Star Wars except and or Rogue one and the original trilogy.

2528
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 14: Everyone can debate in between. But I would say, uh,

2529
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 14: the Force.

2530
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 15: Awakens and like the new Star Wars added some great

2531
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 15: stuff that I really loved, the combat of the mythology

2532
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 15: of like the did I and the prequels ended up

2533
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 15: like adding some nuanced to Star Wars because the original

2534
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 15: with Star Wars, in my opinion, it's okay, but I

2535
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 15: would say we should be talking about Doom, Dune, Dune.

2536
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 4: What are we talking about in the original Star Wars? Okay,

2537
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 4: had all exact decision that one is ready.

2538
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 3: If I was running it, I would have been doing

2539
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 3: the same.

2540
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 4: Thing is a little weird. I mean, I watched the

2541
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 4: David Lynch version of Dune growing up and thinking like,

2542
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 4: maybe you're getting a Star Wars sci fi kind of thing.

2543
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 4: And everybody's like talking about spice and sandworms and that.

2544
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:54,520
Speaker 9: The South Park Spice.

2545
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 4: Version not not not not my cup of tea. But

2546
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 4: but thank you. I mean, we certainly got and a

2547
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: lot of people chiming in about about the Star Wars

2548
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 4: and I mean, it's a it's fine, you got so

2549
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 4: much to discuss, but I agree, like there's just so

2550
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 4: many hot takes and if you like it, you like

2551
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 4: it all right, I might as well. I'm not wrapping

2552
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 4: up yet, but I gotta I gotta read this one.

2553
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 4: Trent writes in about soap on a slot, Freddy, we

2554
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 4: might have a product that combines your soap with a

2555
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 4: slot with the ever popular loofa. Picture it if you

2556
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 4: will a loofah with a slot to put a soap in.

2557
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,759
Speaker 4: No more wasting soap slivers, stick them in the slot.

2558
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 4: Sick of sick of always adding soap to your loofa

2559
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 4: problem solved with the loof of pocket. So it's will

2560
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 4: never run out, million dollars, million dollar idea. You say

2561
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 4: it's all yours in exchange for a PU shirt. So

2562
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 4: there have been a lot of emails about PU shirts,

2563
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 4: and Matt, I think we have to figure out a

2564
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 4: way to distribute those. But I would say I think

2565
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 4: we'd all agree that we'll try to get at training camp.

2566
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 4: If you're able to make it out to training camp,

2567
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 4: I think we'll.

2568
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 5: Be Uh, that's where we got to give you the cannon.

2569
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 9: Ready, I'm gonna get the T shirt.

2570
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the tie has been efforting a T shirt

2571
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 4: can which are surprisingly.

2572
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 9: Tallall guess how much a T shirt gun is? Please

2573
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 9: just guess.

2574
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna says that's right on the dot.

2575
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 4: But you want to come out, you want Paul to

2576
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 4: shoot you in the face with a T shirt gun. Well,

2577
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 4: we'll make it happen. Whatever, whatever you need. We just

2578
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 4: signed one today too. We signed a tcher to sign them.

2579
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 4: Just be careful how many times you watch it, because

2580
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how well they hold up an What

2581
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 4: was that? Nothing? What? All right? This one just came up,

2582
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna mention it. The five O first Legion.

2583
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 4: You guys have heard about that. That's like a a

2584
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 4: whole band of twenty thousand stormtroopers that go and do

2585
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 4: things that might be kind of fun. Get here the

2586
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 4: Patriots game? Perhaps back to football though? Were you just

2587
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 4: talking to English?

2588
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 9: What was that?

2589
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 4: I have no idea what you don't know? I feel

2590
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 4: like Audrey right now is grinding her gears like I'm

2591
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 4: grinding her gears with my performance here down the strength

2592
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 4: at the time in your head. I apologize. Question regarding

2593
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 4: Kendrick from Alex Alex P. I was wondering with Kendrick

2594
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 4: Bourne as a clean slate for last year. And if

2595
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,759
Speaker 4: you think Billy Oh gets the best out of him,

2596
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 4: or is he just another guy who could be first

2597
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 4: to go when the opportunity arises. I think he's an

2598
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 4: interesting guy. What do you guys think? It's just how

2599
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 4: he's going to fit in here.

2600
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 3: I think that there's two sides to Kendrick Bourne. There's

2601
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 3: the one side of where a lot of this fan

2602
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 3: base thinks that he's Jerry Rice, and that side I

2603
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 3: can't get on board with. But I do think that

2604
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 3: there's a world where Kendrick Bourne emerges as that third

2605
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: guy that he was supposed to be last year and

2606
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 3: was towards the end of twenty twenty one. But I

2607
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: still think that he's a good number three receiver in

2608
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 3: a good offense. That is a complimentary piece more than

2609
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 3: somebody that you're going to funnel things through. But I'm

2610
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 3: not rolling out Kendrick Bourne getting back to where he was.

2611
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 5: I know that there is nope.

2612
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 3: I agree that's where I'm at.

2613
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 5: The only thing I would say on the negative side

2614
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 5: with Kendrick Bourne would be if like the two kids

2615
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 5: that they took in the sixth round, Let's we talked

2616
01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 5: about a lot of ifs. You know, if this, if

2617
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 5: that you the more, if you have the you know,

2618
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 5: probably the work. But let let's just say those two

2619
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 5: guys are home runs and they both work out. I

2620
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 5: think Kendrick Bourne is a candidate to go in that

2621
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 5: in that scenario, but I can absolutely see him getting

2622
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 5: back to the way he was two years ago and

2623
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 5: less like he was as an.

2624
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,480
Speaker 4: Afterthought contract year. Yeah.

2625
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just think that I think that his

2626
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 5: ceiling is in anywhere near his high is a lot

2627
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 5: of people that follow the Patriots like every game that

2628
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 5: they lost last year is because Kendrick Bourne wasn't actively

2629
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 5: involved in the game plan.

2630
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 4: You know.

2631
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that, Like I have the big Kendrick

2632
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 3: Bourn highlight that I always go back to is the

2633
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 3: touchdown against the Titans where it looked like he was

2634
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 3: probably should have got tackled like six times, but like

2635
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 3: somehow just made it down the sideline. And I think

2636
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 3: that people look at that are like, oh, here's your

2637
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 3: yards after catch. Guy, It's like no, I just I

2638
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 3: just think that that play was kind of flukey.

2639
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, But I will.

2640
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 5: Say that he you know, he can play, like he

2641
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 5: has shown the ability to play in the NFL. I

2642
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 5: just think that people think that, like Evan said, he's

2643
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 5: like showing the ability to be Deebo.

2644
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 4: Samuel in the NFL, and he's not like he's just.

2645
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Kind of that Bengals game last year when they finally

2646
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 3: did let him play and he made those acrobatic catches

2647
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 3: down the field. He can definitely be in a good offense, right,

2648
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 3: a weapon in a good offense. I just don't know

2649
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 3: what ring on the totem pole is he going to be? Right,

2650
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be a number one.

2651
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 3: Maybe he's a number two if he really hits the potential,

2652
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 3: but they still don't really necessarily have somebody above him.

2653
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 4: It's like a bigger question for me. I'd love to

2654
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 4: he never could ask Bill O'Brien this question, But you know,

2655
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 4: just what is the process as an offensive coordinator when

2656
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 4: you come into a new system and you say, all right,

2657
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 4: here's the pieces that you have. We've got some draft picks,

2658
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 4: we've got some free agency capital. You know, what do

2659
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 4: you think we need to do with that to complement

2660
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 4: what we have? You know, because I'm sure you arrive

2661
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 4: places and you're like, I don't like this guy. I

2662
01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 4: can't use him in my offense, or oh this guy

2663
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 4: can really do more my offense because of reasons xyz.

2664
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 4: You know though, those are the things that what intrigues

2665
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 4: him about the pieces that are in place, and you

2666
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 4: know how much of an impact did he have on GASICKI,

2667
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 4: you know, on Juju like those kind of moves. Was

2668
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 4: that targeted because of Bill O'Brien? Was that just kind

2669
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 4: of a general move of all right, well this is

2670
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 4: you know, these are apple storage is we're going to

2671
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 4: get you know, a little bit of an upgrade on Jacoby,

2672
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 4: or this is a receiving tight end that you know,

2673
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 4: we think can do more than you know, maybe that

2674
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 4: kind of thing. But I just am interested how he

2675
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 4: kind of views this and what he's planning on doing.

2676
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 3: It's also just way wonky like because you don't know

2677
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 3: how long he's going to be here for. I mean,

2678
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 3: you think it might be a couple of years. But

2679
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 3: I think to the point with mac Josh McDaniels is

2680
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 3: his offensive coordinator his rookie season. Then McDaniels leaves and

2681
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 3: goes to the Raiders, and here we are, right, so

2682
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 3: do you go out and sign guys with Bill O'Brien's

2683
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 3: system in mind, and then recognizing that if it goes

2684
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 3: well here for Bill O'Brien, it's probably gonna get a

2685
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 3: head job. Maybe not in the NFL, maybe back in college.

2686
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 3: But at some point in the next two years, I

2687
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 3: would think that somebody's gonna probably look at, oh, well,

2688
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 3: he rebilitated mac Jones, and look at the Patriots offense

2689
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 3: with that, you know, before him and then after him.

2690
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 3: There's a clear difference, and now all of a sudden,

2691
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 3: he's a head coach again.

2692
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 4: Somewhere Yeah, Bill and Vista says, the Big Cahuna is

2693
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 4: a hot chicken and cheese and peppers with jalapenos. Come on, Evan,

2694
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 4: you need to study more.

2695
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 3: I knew it was some sort of hot sandwich and

2696
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 3: said chicken.

2697
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is This is a good one from

2698
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 4: David subject Paul Snark lives on. I've noticed that when

2699
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 4: I'm reading a football take online or in real life,

2700
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 4: I can immediately come up with a snarky Paul answer.

2701
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 4: For example, I like him but not at fourteen, and

2702
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 4: I immediately think, so you don't like him. I just

2703
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 4: want to say, thanks for that, Paul. It's true to that.

2704
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 4: Have you does that consistently happen throughout your life? You

2705
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 4: get into people's heads and you.

2706
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't I hope not. I don't know, but

2707
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that.

2708
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 4: Lots of Star Wars stuff, lots of PU T shirt

2709
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 4: questions and uh oh and Sam, I'm from Kentucky ways

2710
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: and he never got his T shirt.

2711
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 17: Matt Millell, I'm getting through everybody's tea shirts that I

2712
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 17: haven't sent out yet. If you haven't got a T shirt,

2713
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 17: sent me in your address.

2714
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 5: So just to let people know a little bit that, like,

2715
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 5: there was someone in the organization who's recently left, and

2716
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 5: she was heavily involved in the process of distributing uh stuff,

2717
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 5: So we didn't really realize that. I think Mad is

2718
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 5: now double. I'm playing ketchup, playing ketchup.

2719
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 4: She just wasn't there. She's not there anymore, like ketchup.

2720
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 4: All right, we're coming down the stretch here. But this

2721
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 4: was funny. Our junior high school com petering out a

2722
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 4: little bit here, like dang it, dang it, I didn't

2723
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 4: want to. Our junior high school principal, in honor of

2724
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 4: Star Wars rented a movie called Ice Pirates, full of

2725
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 4: sexual innuendo and never forgotten space Hrpie. I just was

2726
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 4: thinking of all the stupid spinoffs that they did, like

2727
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 4: I remember, like Buckeroot Bonds, I like, you know, in

2728
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 4: the eighties, like these movies it's like you're seeing now

2729
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 4: with Marvel, you know, like everything like something's a hit

2730
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 4: and then everybody's got to try to make like a

2731
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 4: b kind of spinoff version, like all those Netflix movies

2732
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 4: that are like the Rocking, like everyone has the rock

2733
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 4: in them somehow everything and you could tell they shot

2734
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 4: it in two different locations with a green screen. But

2735
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 4: there's like these big actors and.

2736
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 3: It's like that, you know, everything on Netflix. If something

2737
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 3: goes viral on Netflix, this is, you know, great new

2738
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 3: TV show and they're right there, there's like six different

2739
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 3: versions of it. Or Netflix is getting the true crime

2740
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:24,800
Speaker 3: like category. Netflix just has ten true crime things every

2741
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 3: week that's new, and it's like I like that one

2742
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 3: true crime thing. But like, let's not get crazy murder shows.

2743
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 4: Murder shows, they're all over the place.

2744
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many movies that are like remakes

2745
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 5: of old TV shows and it just feels like it's

2746
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 5: nothing new. Feels like you and your ilk Mic, we've

2747
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 5: got lacking the creativity.

2748
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 4: Come on, Mike, no, I know that's and that's part

2749
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 4: of the reason that was, you know, just annoying because

2750
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this is an established, you know, identity,

2751
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 4: this is an established property, like we can remake this

2752
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 4: instead of you know, you have people trying to come

2753
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 4: up with creative, clever, new ideas like you know, I

2754
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 4: mean that's something like Game of Thrones, where it's like

2755
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 4: this is established, you know what, you know what it is.

2756
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 4: You've got to built in audience. But you know, if

2757
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 4: somebody came in and tried to pitch you that fantasy show,

2758
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 4: you'd be like that, you know much.

2759
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 9: He was doubted and now he's a chosen one and

2760
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 9: he's gonna do well, that's ever show. He's the chosen one.

2761
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 4: Starting the rock all right, that's gonna do it for

2762
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 4: us here on Thursday, Patriots on Filter. We'll continue next week.

2763
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 4: More free agents will be available. We'll closing in on

2764
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 4: some OTA's probably will get a glimpse at some of

2765
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 4: these guys out on the field here and in the

2766
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 4: coming weeks. But in the meantime, enjoy your weekend and

2767
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 4: we will see you next week.

2768
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Catch twenty two is still coming.

2769
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah that too.

2770
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:35,480
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2771
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