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Speaker 2: your Lee. A guy with a spiritual teacher, speaker, intuitive
Speaker 2: healing artist. She's the author of three books, including The
Speaker 2: Fearless Path, Overcoming Toxic Emotions, and A Spiritual Journey for Women.
Speaker 2: She uses her personal triumphs over addiction, anxiety, and eating
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. Good to have you with us.
Speaker 3: Hi, George, good to be here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: So you ended up buying a house that turned out
Speaker 2: to be haunted.
Speaker 3: I did, why do you do that? It was, you know,
Speaker 3: like blind love. It was kind of like that. At
Speaker 3: first I walked through the house with the realature and
Speaker 3: I said, no, I at that point I didn't know
Speaker 3: was haunted. But you know, I wasn't going in looking
Speaker 3: for that. I was looking for a house. I was
Speaker 3: desperate to find one. And at first I said, no way.
Speaker 3: It was too it was in too bad condition, it
Speaker 3: was overpriced, there's too much to need to be done.
Speaker 3: I said, no way, and then I left, And then
Speaker 3: I became kind of obsessed with the house. I couldn't
Speaker 3: stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2: What made you draw yourself to it?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that there was some serious work to
Speaker 3: be done there on you know, on a soul level,
Speaker 3: on an energy level, and for whatever reason, maybe I
Speaker 3: was the person to need to do that, you know,
Speaker 3: for myself, or the house were history and time, who knows.
Speaker 3: But it was kind of like I couldn't say no.
Speaker 3: It was it was like a push. I was pushed
Speaker 3: to that place.
Speaker 2: So you want ahead and bought it. And at what
Speaker 2: point did you realize there's something strange about this place?
Speaker 3: Well, it was a few weeks. Every time I would
Speaker 3: move something from the facing of the house, like a lantern,
Speaker 3: or there was this old cawskull decoration by the front
Speaker 3: door that I didn't want there other things. There were
Speaker 3: several things, but the house started to feel a little
Speaker 3: bit bizarre at nighttime in particular, but even during the
Speaker 3: daytime when I would go up to the third floor,
Speaker 3: there was just this sense of hesitation and me and
Speaker 3: child and I am a very sensitive person because as
Speaker 3: you said, you know, I do energy healing and spiritual
Speaker 3: work and so forth for the past twenty thirty years
Speaker 3: of my career, and so it was uncomfortable. But I thought, well,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just you know, George, we should also say here.
Speaker 3: I purchased the house and moved in on the first
Speaker 3: day of COVID Lockdown, Oh Jersey.
Speaker 2: What timing, huh?
Speaker 3: It was the day Friday, March twenty seventh. I didn't
Speaker 3: know anyone in the area, so I thought, well, maybe
Speaker 3: I'm just feeling unnerved, you know. And then I started
Speaker 3: having things stolen from the garden that I was things
Speaker 3: I'd placed there from the house. Then I started finding
Speaker 3: bizarre things in the garden, and then about a month
Speaker 3: six weeks then I started having these night terrors. And
Speaker 3: at that point I knew something serious is going on here.
Speaker 3: Not only myself. I was the only one having the nightmarees,
Speaker 3: but when I had visitation order visitors or my boyfriend
Speaker 3: was there, you know, he could feel things going on.
Speaker 3: Other people were like, something different is here. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should be. You should be me in those in
Speaker 3: those dream states.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you know if the house was
Speaker 2: haunted prior to your ownerships? Where they should have disclosed
Speaker 2: it to you.
Speaker 3: I do believe that. Yes, I had some communication with
Speaker 3: the previous owners, and well, I should say, the previous
Speaker 3: owners mentioned the husband mentioned that things were different they
Speaker 3: and the wife mentioned that as well. But then I
Speaker 3: actually asked the wife some pointed specific questions like the
Speaker 3: dream time, you know, the night terrors, and if anything
Speaker 3: had ever been stolen, that kind of stuff. I know,
Speaker 3: things saying things get stolen, you know people in the city,
Speaker 3: that's like, no big deal. But this is a charming, artistic,
Speaker 3: creative camp. And my gardens were up two or three
Speaker 3: flights from the side of the road. It was a
Speaker 3: barely accessible spot, so it's not just like your average
Speaker 3: oh something got stolen. Plus I'm surrounded by woods, it's
Speaker 3: not like I had, you know, many neighbors. So the wife,
Speaker 3: previous owner wife also had the same nightmares that I
Speaker 3: had for her first nine months of living there, and
Speaker 3: we shared stories of our dream time that were almost identical,
Speaker 3: and we did that over text.
Speaker 2: Did you or did the previous owners ever conduct some
Speaker 2: kind of investigation to try to determine what happened in
Speaker 2: this house? Did anybody die in it or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think through their information that they had, and
Speaker 3: I ended up having some energy clearers over and of
Speaker 3: course I went to several mediums and people trying to
Speaker 3: get more clarity. There was one consistent story that thread
Speaker 3: throughout My house was originated in eighteen thirty eight and
Speaker 3: suspend there quite some time, and the one story that
Speaker 3: thread throughout every person was that at the turn of
Speaker 3: the century, so around early nineteen hundreds, that the house
Speaker 3: was a brothel of sorts, which you know, again isn't
Speaker 3: necessarily unusual, but well, I mean, I guess it's not
Speaker 3: that common, but the brothel wasn't like a traditional brothel.
Speaker 3: The information that came through was it was a brothel
Speaker 3: owned by a powerful local businessman of sorts, and he
Speaker 3: would take young people's or people's young children and as
Speaker 3: payment if they couldn't repay him what they owed. So
Speaker 3: it was a it was kind of a I don't
Speaker 3: know the correct word, but there was no child over
Speaker 3: age sixteen living at that house that was being used
Speaker 3: and abused and sold as a prostitution. And so it
Speaker 3: started to make sense of what I was seeing in
Speaker 3: my dreams and visions and feeling in the house, meaning
Speaker 3: there was both this really lighthearted, beautiful, energetic feeling of
Speaker 3: love and playfulness and calm and peace and just a
Speaker 3: real lovely feeling at that house. And then there was
Speaker 3: this really dark energy. And I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was the man who owned the brothel or you know,
Speaker 3: someone else, I'm not sure, but I have no doubt
Speaker 3: from the years that I've lived there that that there
Speaker 3: was something something desperate kind of going on there.
Speaker 2: How often did it happen? Did did strange things occur
Speaker 2: while you were there?
Speaker 3: There were strange things as in, you know, fire alarms
Speaker 3: going off all the time, or this tree that went
Speaker 3: a different direction and fell on my boyfriend's car in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Farm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were things found in the garden every week.
Speaker 3: The dreams, the nightmares, the visitations as what I'll call them.
Speaker 3: They happened about every couple of weeks, you know, give
Speaker 3: or take. But it got to be frequent enough that
Speaker 3: it was you know, I started to become scared to
Speaker 3: go to sleep, to be honest with you, because it
Speaker 3: was so invasive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to bed with your eyes open for crying
Speaker 2: out loud.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And there was other things, you know, like the
Speaker 3: bed bouncing and night, the whole house shook. I literally
Speaker 3: thought there was a huge earthquake. It woke me up
Speaker 3: in the night, and you know, so it was it
Speaker 3: was pretty frequent for the first year and a half.
Speaker 2: How many ghosts do you think occupied the house, Well.
Speaker 3: We're talking about benevolent spirits as well as the dark energies.
Speaker 3: I'd say probably ten to twelve.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when I say ten to twelve, I'm
Speaker 3: sensing this kind of a gaggler group of these younger kids.
Speaker 3: It was really sweet as I was, you know, I
Speaker 3: had to remodel the home. As I said, it was
Speaker 3: a disaster when I bought it, but I did it
Speaker 3: on a budget, and I did it through COVID, So
Speaker 3: it was like me ripping out floors in the home,
Speaker 3: you know, and tearing the kitchen down and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And it was really sweet to find, you know, this
Speaker 3: juxtaposition of these night terrors and so forth they were
Speaker 3: going on and this crazy energy in the house. And
Speaker 3: then you know, I'd opened a wall and there were
Speaker 3: a series of little plastic army mentoys or you know,
Speaker 3: little memorabilia from children or postcards from eighteen ninety six
Speaker 3: handwritten from two miles down the road, you know. So
Speaker 3: there was there was a lot of history that I
Speaker 3: continue to find. I keep saying, I say, the cart
Speaker 3: the gardens keep giving because every time I go digging,
Speaker 3: they provide something. But even in the house, and yet
Speaker 3: there was you know, this ever present dark energy and
Speaker 3: some serious stuff in the house as well as that.
Speaker 3: For instance, one time my foot went through the floor,
Speaker 3: just like that movie you know, this old house. My
Speaker 3: foot literally went through the bedroom floor and the wood
Speaker 3: plank hit me up in the butt, and luckily I
Speaker 3: didn't go through the ceiling, but I had to remove
Speaker 3: the wood plank, and I looked, you know, hollow between
Speaker 3: the floor and the ceiling because how old the houses.
Speaker 3: And there was hundreds, if not thousands of baggies and
Speaker 3: needles and rubb were bands that looked, you know, not
Speaker 3: of this time. So at some point there was a
Speaker 3: serious drug problem there. And my next door neighbors also
Speaker 3: turned out had a serious mental health issue. So it
Speaker 3: was just a really bizarre It was like I was
Speaker 3: walking through polarity and time. You know, this beautiful Italian
Speaker 3: facade eighteen sixties of stone and brick home with three
Speaker 3: lovely patios and you know, the woods, and it was
Speaker 3: this gorgeous place and then this terrorizing energy going on
Speaker 3: at the same you know, simultaneously, And it was kind
Speaker 3: of that way throughout the whole experience.
Speaker 2: You don't still own the house, do you? I? Do
Speaker 2: you still have it? Do you live in it?
Speaker 3: I worked so hard. I don't live in it anymore.
Speaker 3: I worked so hard on that house physically, energetically, emotionally.
Speaker 3: It feels wonderful now and I do think that I
Speaker 3: have protected the lands and created a boundary where that
Speaker 3: energy can no longer enter. I feel strongly about that.
Speaker 3: There is still a different kind of feeling at the house.
Speaker 3: It's not scary, it's just different. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: walking back in time. But it's lovely there. And so
Speaker 3: I decided to turn it to short term rentals. Already
Speaker 3: had one going on the first floor.
Speaker 2: Did you tell them about the house.
Speaker 3: Well when I managed it, Yes, I actually kind of yes,
Speaker 3: I did. I put it in the Airbnb and I
Speaker 3: had people coming just for that, you know. I had
Speaker 3: mothers bringing their young sons with the ghosts, barometers saying,
Speaker 3: machines and so forth, and I had other people, you know,
Speaker 3: very interested. Now it's kind of owned by a management company,
Speaker 3: and now I don't feel like I need to disclose
Speaker 3: that in the ad, but I do put it in
Speaker 3: the books and so forth, because there's no you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's just not the same negative energy there. If anything,
Speaker 3: people have these kind of mystical, wonderful experiences and they
Speaker 3: feel at such peace, and so it's just been really
Speaker 3: cool to see it transform. But for myself, I kind
Speaker 3: of got worn out. You know, it's like going home
Speaker 3: for too long of a visit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Have the hauntings stopped in the place.
Speaker 3: Yes, the hauntings have stopped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what would happen if you move back in.
Speaker 3: Well, I do go visit, and I'm good there for
Speaker 3: like three or four days. When I go there, it
Speaker 3: feels like.
Speaker 2: A warm hug and nothing happens.
Speaker 3: And nothing happens. No, nothing happens. Like like before, there's
Speaker 3: still you know, there's still some kind of different feeling,
Speaker 3: you know, but nothing happens. But what I noticed does
Speaker 3: happen to me is after the third or fourth night,
Speaker 3: I just kind of feel like, you know, I'm ready
Speaker 3: to not be here. But it's not because I'm scared,
Speaker 3: or it's not because of any negative reason. It just
Speaker 3: I feel complete with it, you know, and I'm ready
Speaker 3: to get back to my life. It truly feels like
Speaker 3: going back into another dimension. It's like a fifth dimension.
Speaker 2: And you'd think the spirits were out to get you,
Speaker 2: don't you.
Speaker 3: I think the one, I think there was one that
Speaker 3: was very possessive and jealous everything that every time, almost
Speaker 3: every time that I had those kinds of experiences, my
Speaker 3: boyfriend was visiting or nearby, so out to get me. Yes,
Speaker 3: it does feel like it was trying to take me down.
Speaker 3: While I was in the house, my health started declining,
Speaker 3: and I'm a you know, vital at that point late
Speaker 3: forties and now early fifties woman active, and I went
Speaker 3: through a bizarre series of health issues, accidents, like I said,
Speaker 3: the night invasions, So what I say out to get me,
Speaker 3: I would kind of more say there to prove its point.
Speaker 3: And then when I started using my energy and resources,
Speaker 3: that's when I felt like it was trying to quote
Speaker 3: kind of take me down.
Speaker 2: Did anything ever happen to your boyfriends when he was there?
Speaker 3: Now he would feel he would here, feel and see
Speaker 3: a lot of what I did. In fact, sometimes he
Speaker 3: would say to me before bed, you know, the energy's
Speaker 3: often here, and I'm like, I know. And by this
Speaker 3: point I kind of had a nighttime prayer ritual that
Speaker 3: I went through to protect and if I was too tired,
Speaker 3: I could feel it, you know, if I didn't, so
Speaker 3: he would be able to feel that. He would feel
Speaker 3: the bouncing ball or the bouncing bed. Of course, as
Speaker 3: I said, his car got demolished. When he was there,
Speaker 3: he would find stuff in the gardens with me, and
Speaker 3: after a while he had the sense of mind because
Speaker 3: I would wake up in these night terrors vocally trying
Speaker 3: to get help. And it was a lot of struggle
Speaker 3: for me to come to that point. But at one
Speaker 3: point he got his cell phone and he recorded me,
Speaker 3: you know, calling out and screaming and crying to this
Speaker 3: energy in my nighttime. So so he was definitely, you know,
Speaker 3: experiencing a lot of it.
Speaker 2: How are you able to function in your normal career?
Speaker 3: Well, I worked for my car a lot during those years.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was It's one of those things that
Speaker 3: I think you go through and you don't realize how
Speaker 3: much energy it's taking from you until you get away
Speaker 3: from it, you know, because as I said, it was COVID.
Speaker 3: I could have like left and gone to my families,
Speaker 3: but there in Kentucky, you know, it's twelve hours away.
Speaker 3: I was just as nervous as everyone else at the beginning,
Speaker 3: is like, don't leave your house, you know, wear the
Speaker 3: mask whatever. So I really felt kind of trapped in
Speaker 3: this situation for the first six eight months certainly, And
Speaker 3: I guess on the other hand, I wasn't working as much.
Speaker 3: I was doing ZIM calls. All My focus was kind
Speaker 3: of on the house and just keeping myself sane and
Speaker 3: together and healthy. And you know, maybe that was a
Speaker 3: gift at the time that I had that, otherwise I
Speaker 3: don't know that I would have. In fact, it's led
Speaker 3: me to believe my one other neighbor on that hill
Speaker 3: had severe mental health illness. The people in the house
Speaker 3: before me. He ended up having a severe drug issue.
Speaker 3: The one other house on the hill has been abandoned,
Speaker 3: as the woodside had been abandoned ever since I had
Speaker 3: lived there, So it was kind of like the whole hillside,
Speaker 3: which was just three properties, one abandoned, one with a
Speaker 3: severely mental ill couple in my house. It was kind
Speaker 3: of like this energy was pervasive. Yeah, yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: why I said my work that I did energetically there.
Speaker 3: I felt like I had to work on the whole land.
Speaker 3: It was intense.
Speaker 2: Were you scared?
Speaker 3: Not that well right now I'm physically still struggling for them.
Speaker 2: What were you scared staying there? I was terrified, Yeah,
Speaker 2: an emotional basket case.
Speaker 3: It was really really something, you know, but it's it's
Speaker 3: kind of brought me to a different level of my
Speaker 3: own healing and my my personal journey the first several nights.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I mentioned, but it's also kind
Speaker 3: of in the woods. It's visible to a main road,
Speaker 3: but there's no street street lights on my road, and
Speaker 3: it's on a.
Speaker 2: Hill and typical haunt looking place. I bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was something I was really scared.
Speaker 3: But at first I thought, well, maybe I'm just scared
Speaker 3: to live in the house by myself. You know, it'd
Speaker 3: been a while, and as I said, I didn't not
Speaker 3: any was the COVID. And even though this charming little
Speaker 3: town has hardly any crime at all. I mean it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, people leave everything out on the front porch.
Speaker 2: I bet the Adams family house was a fun house
Speaker 2: compared to yours.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it seemed like it. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was scary.
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