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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noriy with

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Speaker 2: your Lee. A guy with a spiritual teacher, speaker, intuitive

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Speaker 2: healing artist. She's the author of three books, including The

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Speaker 2: Fearless Path, Overcoming Toxic Emotions, and A Spiritual Journey for Women.

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Speaker 2: She uses her personal triumphs over addiction, anxiety, and eating

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Speaker 2: disorders and inspires and teaches people how to access their

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Speaker 2: full potential with practical techniques, guided wisdom, and entertaining concepts. Leah,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. Good to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: Hi, George, good to be here. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: So you ended up buying a house that turned out

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Speaker 2: to be haunted.

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Speaker 3: I did, why do you do that? It was, you know,

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Speaker 3: like blind love. It was kind of like that. At

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Speaker 3: first I walked through the house with the realature and

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Speaker 3: I said, no, I at that point I didn't know

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Speaker 3: was haunted. But you know, I wasn't going in looking

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Speaker 3: for that. I was looking for a house. I was

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Speaker 3: desperate to find one. And at first I said, no way.

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Speaker 3: It was too it was in too bad condition, it

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Speaker 3: was overpriced, there's too much to need to be done.

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Speaker 3: I said, no way, and then I left, And then

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Speaker 3: I became kind of obsessed with the house. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: stop thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: What made you draw yourself to it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that there was some serious work to

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Speaker 3: be done there on you know, on a soul level,

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Speaker 3: on an energy level, and for whatever reason, maybe I

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Speaker 3: was the person to need to do that, you know,

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Speaker 3: for myself, or the house were history and time, who knows.

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Speaker 3: But it was kind of like I couldn't say no.

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Speaker 3: It was it was like a push. I was pushed

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Speaker 3: to that place.

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Speaker 2: So you want ahead and bought it. And at what

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Speaker 2: point did you realize there's something strange about this place?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was a few weeks. Every time I would

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Speaker 3: move something from the facing of the house, like a lantern,

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Speaker 3: or there was this old cawskull decoration by the front

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Speaker 3: door that I didn't want there other things. There were

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Speaker 3: several things, but the house started to feel a little

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Speaker 3: bit bizarre at nighttime in particular, but even during the

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Speaker 3: daytime when I would go up to the third floor,

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Speaker 3: there was just this sense of hesitation and me and

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Speaker 3: child and I am a very sensitive person because as

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Speaker 3: you said, you know, I do energy healing and spiritual

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Speaker 3: work and so forth for the past twenty thirty years

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Speaker 3: of my career, and so it was uncomfortable. But I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm just you know, George, we should also say here.

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Speaker 3: I purchased the house and moved in on the first

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Speaker 3: day of COVID Lockdown, Oh Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What timing, huh?

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Speaker 3: It was the day Friday, March twenty seventh. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know anyone in the area, so I thought, well, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm just feeling unnerved, you know. And then I started

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Speaker 3: having things stolen from the garden that I was things

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Speaker 3: I'd placed there from the house. Then I started finding

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Speaker 3: bizarre things in the garden, and then about a month

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Speaker 3: six weeks then I started having these night terrors. And

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Speaker 3: at that point I knew something serious is going on here.

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Speaker 3: Not only myself. I was the only one having the nightmarees,

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Speaker 3: but when I had visitation order visitors or my boyfriend

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Speaker 3: was there, you know, he could feel things going on.

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Speaker 3: Other people were like, something different is here. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you should be. You should be me in those in

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Speaker 3: those dream states.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do you know if the house was

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Speaker 2: haunted prior to your ownerships? Where they should have disclosed

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Speaker 2: it to you.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that. Yes, I had some communication with

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Speaker 3: the previous owners, and well, I should say, the previous

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Speaker 3: owners mentioned the husband mentioned that things were different they

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Speaker 3: and the wife mentioned that as well. But then I

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Speaker 3: actually asked the wife some pointed specific questions like the

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Speaker 3: dream time, you know, the night terrors, and if anything

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Speaker 3: had ever been stolen, that kind of stuff. I know,

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Speaker 3: things saying things get stolen, you know people in the city,

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Speaker 3: that's like, no big deal. But this is a charming, artistic,

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Speaker 3: creative camp. And my gardens were up two or three

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Speaker 3: oh something got stolen. Plus I'm surrounded by woods, it's

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Speaker 3: not like I had, you know, many neighbors. So the wife,

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Speaker 3: previous owner wife also had the same nightmares that I

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Speaker 3: had for her first nine months of living there, and

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Speaker 3: we shared stories of our dream time that were almost identical,

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Speaker 3: and we did that over text.

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Speaker 2: Did you or did the previous owners ever conduct some

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Speaker 2: kind of investigation to try to determine what happened in

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Speaker 2: this house? Did anybody die in it or something?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think through their information that they had, and

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Speaker 3: I ended up having some energy clearers over and of

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Speaker 3: course I went to several mediums and people trying to

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Speaker 3: get more clarity. There was one consistent story that thread

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Speaker 3: throughout My house was originated in eighteen thirty eight and

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Speaker 3: suspend there quite some time, and the one story that

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Speaker 3: thread throughout every person was that at the turn of

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Speaker 3: the century, so around early nineteen hundreds, that the house

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Speaker 3: was a brothel of sorts, which you know, again isn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily unusual, but well, I mean, I guess it's not

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Speaker 3: that common, but the brothel wasn't like a traditional brothel.

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Speaker 3: The information that came through was it was a brothel

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Speaker 3: owned by a powerful local businessman of sorts, and he

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Speaker 3: would take young people's or people's young children and as

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Speaker 3: payment if they couldn't repay him what they owed. So

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Speaker 3: it was a it was kind of a I don't

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Speaker 3: know the correct word, but there was no child over

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Speaker 3: age sixteen living at that house that was being used

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Speaker 3: and abused and sold as a prostitution. And so it

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Speaker 3: started to make sense of what I was seeing in

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Speaker 3: my dreams and visions and feeling in the house, meaning

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Speaker 3: there was both this really lighthearted, beautiful, energetic feeling of

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Speaker 3: love and playfulness and calm and peace and just a

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Speaker 3: real lovely feeling at that house. And then there was

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Speaker 3: this really dark energy. And I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: was the man who owned the brothel or you know,

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Speaker 3: someone else, I'm not sure, but I have no doubt

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Speaker 3: from the years that I've lived there that that there

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Speaker 3: was something something desperate kind of going on there.

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Speaker 2: How often did it happen? Did did strange things occur

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Speaker 2: while you were there?

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Speaker 3: There were strange things as in, you know, fire alarms

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Speaker 3: going off all the time, or this tree that went

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Speaker 3: a different direction and fell on my boyfriend's car in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: Farm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were things found in the garden every week.

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Speaker 3: The dreams, the nightmares, the visitations as what I'll call them.

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Speaker 3: They happened about every couple of weeks, you know, give

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Speaker 3: it was you know, I started to become scared to

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Speaker 3: go to sleep, to be honest with you, because it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go to bed with your eyes open for crying

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And there was other things, you know, like the

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Speaker 3: bed bouncing and night, the whole house shook. I literally

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Speaker 3: thought there was a huge earthquake. It woke me up

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Speaker 3: was pretty frequent for the first year and a half.

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Speaker 2: How many ghosts do you think occupied the house, Well.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about benevolent spirits as well as the dark energies.

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Speaker 3: I'd say probably ten to twelve.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when I say ten to twelve, I'm

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Speaker 3: sensing this kind of a gaggler group of these younger kids.

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Speaker 3: It was really sweet as I was, you know, I

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Speaker 3: had to remodel the home. As I said, it was

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Speaker 3: a disaster when I bought it, but I did it

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Speaker 3: it was like me ripping out floors in the home,

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Speaker 3: you know, and tearing the kitchen down and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And it was really sweet to find, you know, this

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Speaker 3: juxtaposition of these night terrors and so forth they were

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Speaker 3: then you know, I'd opened a wall and there were

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Speaker 3: a series of little plastic army mentoys or you know,

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Speaker 3: little memorabilia from children or postcards from eighteen ninety six

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Speaker 3: handwritten from two miles down the road, you know. So

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Speaker 3: there was there was a lot of history that I

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Speaker 3: continue to find. I keep saying, I say, the cart

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Speaker 3: the gardens keep giving because every time I go digging,

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Speaker 3: they provide something. But even in the house, and yet

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Speaker 3: there was you know, this ever present dark energy and

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Speaker 3: some serious stuff in the house as well as that.

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Speaker 3: For instance, one time my foot went through the floor,

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Speaker 3: just like that movie you know, this old house. My

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Speaker 3: foot literally went through the bedroom floor and the wood

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Speaker 3: plank hit me up in the butt, and luckily I

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Speaker 3: didn't go through the ceiling, but I had to remove

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Speaker 3: the wood plank, and I looked, you know, hollow between

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Speaker 3: the floor and the ceiling because how old the houses.

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Speaker 3: And there was hundreds, if not thousands of baggies and

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Speaker 3: of this time. So at some point there was a

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Speaker 3: serious drug problem there. And my next door neighbors also

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Speaker 3: turned out had a serious mental health issue. So it

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Speaker 3: was just a really bizarre It was like I was

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Speaker 3: walking through polarity and time. You know, this beautiful Italian

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Speaker 3: facade eighteen sixties of stone and brick home with three

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Speaker 3: lovely patios and you know, the woods, and it was

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Speaker 3: this gorgeous place and then this terrorizing energy going on

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Speaker 3: at the same you know, simultaneously, And it was kind

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Speaker 3: of that way throughout the whole experience.

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Speaker 2: You don't still own the house, do you? I? Do

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Speaker 2: you still have it? Do you live in it?

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Speaker 3: I worked so hard. I don't live in it anymore.

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Speaker 3: I worked so hard on that house physically, energetically, emotionally.

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Speaker 3: It feels wonderful now and I do think that I

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Speaker 3: have protected the lands and created a boundary where that

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Speaker 3: energy can no longer enter. I feel strongly about that.

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Speaker 3: There is still a different kind of feeling at the house.

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Speaker 3: It's not scary, it's just different. It's kind of like

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Speaker 3: walking back in time. But it's lovely there. And so

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Speaker 3: I decided to turn it to short term rentals. Already

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Speaker 3: had one going on the first floor.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell them about the house.

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Speaker 3: Well when I managed it, Yes, I actually kind of yes,

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Speaker 3: I did. I put it in the Airbnb and I

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Speaker 3: had people coming just for that, you know. I had

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Speaker 3: mothers bringing their young sons with the ghosts, barometers saying,

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Speaker 3: machines and so forth, and I had other people, you know,

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Speaker 3: very interested. Now it's kind of owned by a management company,

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Speaker 3: and now I don't feel like I need to disclose

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Speaker 3: that in the ad, but I do put it in

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Speaker 3: the books and so forth, because there's no you know,

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Speaker 3: there's there's just not the same negative energy there. If anything,

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Speaker 3: people have these kind of mystical, wonderful experiences and they

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Speaker 3: feel at such peace, and so it's just been really

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Speaker 3: cool to see it transform. But for myself, I kind

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Speaker 3: of got worn out. You know, it's like going home

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Speaker 3: for too long of a visit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Have the hauntings stopped in the place.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the hauntings have stopped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what would happen if you move back in.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do go visit, and I'm good there for

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Speaker 3: like three or four days. When I go there, it

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Speaker 3: feels like.

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Speaker 2: A warm hug and nothing happens.

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Speaker 3: And nothing happens. No, nothing happens. Like like before, there's

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Speaker 3: I just kind of feel like, you know, I'm ready

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Speaker 2: And you'd think the spirits were out to get you,

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Speaker 3: I think the one, I think there was one that

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Speaker 3: every time that I had those kinds of experiences, my

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Speaker 3: it does feel like it was trying to take me down.

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Speaker 3: While I was in the house, my health started declining,

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Speaker 3: through a bizarre series of health issues, accidents, like I said,

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Speaker 3: the night invasions, So what I say out to get me,

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Speaker 3: I would kind of more say there to prove its point.

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Speaker 3: And then when I started using my energy and resources,

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Speaker 3: that's when I felt like it was trying to quote

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Speaker 2: Did anything ever happen to your boyfriends when he was there?

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Speaker 3: Now he would feel he would here, feel and see

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Speaker 3: a lot of what I did. In fact, sometimes he

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Speaker 3: would say to me before bed, you know, the energy's

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Speaker 3: I could feel it, you know, if I didn't, so

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Speaker 3: he would be able to feel that. He would feel

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Speaker 3: the bouncing ball or the bouncing bed. Of course, as

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Speaker 3: I said, his car got demolished. When he was there,

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Speaker 3: you know, calling out and screaming and crying to this

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Speaker 3: experiencing a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: How are you able to function in your normal career?

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Speaker 3: Well, I worked for my car a lot during those years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was It's one of those things that

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Speaker 3: I think you go through and you don't realize how

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Speaker 3: much energy it's taking from you until you get away

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Speaker 3: I could have like left and gone to my families,

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Speaker 3: I was just as nervous as everyone else at the beginning,

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Speaker 3: I guess on the other hand, I wasn't working as much.

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Speaker 3: I was doing ZIM calls. All My focus was kind

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Speaker 3: don't know that I would have. In fact, it's led

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Speaker 3: me to believe my one other neighbor on that hill

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Speaker 3: The one other house on the hill has been abandoned,

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Speaker 3: as the woodside had been abandoned ever since I had

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Speaker 3: which was just three properties, one abandoned, one with a

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Speaker 3: of like this energy was pervasive. Yeah, yeah, and that's

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Speaker 3: why I said my work that I did energetically there.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I had to work on the whole land.

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Speaker 3: It was intense.

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Speaker 2: Were you scared?

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Speaker 3: Not that well right now I'm physically still struggling for them.

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Speaker 2: What were you scared staying there? I was terrified, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It was really really something, you know, but it's it's

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I mentioned, but it's also kind

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Speaker 3: but there's no street street lights on my road, and

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Speaker 2: Hill and typical haunt looking place. I bet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was something I was really scared.

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Speaker 3: But at first I thought, well, maybe I'm just scared

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Speaker 3: been a while, and as I said, I didn't not

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Speaker 3: any was the COVID. And even though this charming little

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Speaker 3: town has hardly any crime at all. I mean it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, people leave everything out on the front porch.

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Speaker 2: I bet the Adams family house was a fun house

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Speaker 2: compared to yours.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it seemed like it. Yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was scary.

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