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Speaker 1: the conversation at least for Defensive Player of the Year.

427
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: He's got such a knack for the football. Obviously, you

428
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: play cook, you know, play pay close attention to the

429
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Speaker 1: defensive backs. Given your background, What do you think about

430
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 1: what you were seeing from Marlan? He's an animal and

431
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: I mean he's just so big and strong and fast

432
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 1: and has that mentality that you know he's like he's

433
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey. He's like that guy, the guy who

434
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: you can play outside. It'st the the big, physical, six

435
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: pound true X and Z type players. Then go hey,

436
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: but you know what, they had this quicker guy who's

437
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: really a problem we want to put. Okay, I'll go

438
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: on here. I'll deal with him too. All right, what

439
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: do you what do you need for me to do?

440
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm the eraser. And when you have corners like that,

441
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: that's why you sign in the long term contracts. That's

442
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: why you go you're going nowhere. And that's what they

443
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: did with him, That's what the Rams did with Jalen.

444
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: But those guys come along once in a blue moon,

445
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: and it's not just physical ability, it's the mentality of

446
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't care what you need me to do. I

447
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: can do it. I can start, I can stone the

448
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: run game, I can blitz the passer, I can blitz

449
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: the past from the perimeter. You want me to come

450
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: up in A and B gap, I'll do that too.

451
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: You want to go outside and play cover too, I

452
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: can do that. You want me to play press, I'll

453
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: do that. You want me to back up and play man,

454
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: I'll do that. Can I finish on the ball? Yep,

455
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: I can do that too, And I'll play every single snap.

456
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: Those guys as a GM. If you're eric to Costa,

457
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: you're going, hey, so how much is gonna cost take

458
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: care of him and you sign them, and that's what

459
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: they did with him, and then you just move on

460
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: to the rest of the team just the way. This

461
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: makes sure is good. This make sure we get to

462
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: him the Sunday and we're good to go. I played

463
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: with a few guys like that. I know, I know

464
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 1: what it's like to have those dudes. You don't never

465
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: let Marlon Humphrey go m Yeah. So I started this

466
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: by asking you what the feeling is around Cleveland and

467
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: what the Browns are saying. What are you getting from

468
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: the Ravens in terms of what this game means. Yeah,

469
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna meet with them tomorrow. But I mean,

470
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: I know this, I know how John Hardball is a

471
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: straight shooter man. He was. He was on the staff

472
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Speaker 1: at the University of Pittsburgh when I was in school.

473
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Speaker 1: So I've known John a long time and I've known

474
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Speaker 1: Dave Culley. There's just at head coach a long time.

475
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the guys in their staff. Action.

476
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: He knows the importance of this game. He knows kind

477
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: of the imbalance that this rivalry has had, and he

478
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: doesn't want to lose control of that because it's nice

479
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: dominating a team. There's a lot of emotion involved with

480
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: this game. There's a lot of importance along as far

481
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: as this game is concerned for them themselves, because he

482
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: knows that they're kind of this season not a little

483
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: off track. They're trying to get back into their rhythm.

484
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: So this is huge for them. Although every coach and

485
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: say every game is huge, blah blah blah. You know

486
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: you hate that crap, And this game is huge because

487
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: it's gonna be emotional. It's Monday night, it's a division rival,

488
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: it's the team that we're basically coming into town as

489
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: a team that left you. Guys, I want a couple

490
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls now we're you know, we come back

491
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: and we still own you. That's a that's a lot.

492
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean that that. There's a lot, man, there's a lot.

493
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: There a lot of emotion, and those are the games, man,

494
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: They bring a smile to my face. Those are the

495
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: games that you you're like, yeah, this is this is

496
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: why you play. This is more than just a job.

497
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: This is personal and that gives you goose bumps. Man,

498
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: So and he knows that on horribles as intense as anybody.

499
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: You know that. That's so, this is big man. This

500
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: is if you want to commentate a game, watch a game,

501
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: playing a game, these are the ones. So what's it

502
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: been like for you? Your your first year and Monday

503
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: night football to join the crew? I mean, it doesn't

504
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: get bigger than Monday night Football, Louis. You know that.

505
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: So what's it been like for you? You know? The

506
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: only thing I've been to make it better is truly

507
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is obviously a no brainers

508
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: for the fans of it been here this year, you know,

509
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: at all these different venues, because it sounds like hyperboly

510
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: to say, you know, it's all about the fans, But

511
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: it is all about the fans, it is. You tell me,

512
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You know this, this will

513
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: kind of just give you my answer. Um, is there

514
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: anything that you that you can do in life that

515
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of replicates the like the emotional building up of

516
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: emotion and you from an excitement standpoint, as like at

517
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: the beginning of a game, like when the home team

518
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: runs out up and you hear the crowd go from

519
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: a murmur to just explode and you hear that sound.

520
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing in the world like that. Well, especially when

521
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: ray Lewis did it. Oh my god, I mean yeah,

522
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know how that is. I mean, that's

523
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: like when I was in Atlanta, right and we opened

524
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: the Georgia Dome and the very first time Dion Sanders

525
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: came out in that dome. Well he danced for about

526
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: three minutes. It took him and then all the smoke

527
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: and stuff, but that was, like, I mean, that was incredible.

528
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: So that, you know, that's the only thing I miss

529
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: about this part of it, you know, like I wish

530
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: I could hear that and just for a while, just

531
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: just here the beginning of games and and here and

532
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: sense the crowd and all. But otherwise it I know

533
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: how big this is. I mean, I know what money

534
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: Night means because as a kid, and as kids you

535
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: know yourself and you watch football, you know that Monday

536
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Night is what it's all about. You you understand that.

537
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: Howard Cosell, Al Michael's, Frank Gifford, don Ard, these guys

538
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: did this stuff. And as a kid when that used

539
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: to come on, I used to sit there with my

540
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: mouth hanging open, like that's Howard Cosell talking about Tony

541
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: doors set, you know, and all of those That's what

542
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I had who I watched. So now sometimes when I

543
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: do it, and in our headset, you know, we have

544
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: the curated audio of the crowd, simulated noise, and and

545
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: that music comes on as the Monday Night theme. I

546
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: know how big it is. That gives me goose bumps

547
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: every time it comes on. And when the game starts,

548
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't care if there's there's fans in the stands.

549
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm locked in on the game and it's just as

550
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: big as could be. But I just wish the fans

551
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: were here. Um, this is what I mean. This is

552
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: the pinnacle broadcasting for football other than a super Bowl.

553
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: It's Monday Night, simple as that. Do you after a game?

554
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Do you do you get text? Yeah? Do you do

555
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: you get texts after a game from family members who

556
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: were like, I watched you, you were so fantastic. I

557
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, my little piddli things I hear

558
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: from my mom every time. Yeah, I get I get

559
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: them during the game. Yeah, I get him during the game,

560
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, And it's all kinds of different stuff. It's

561
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: from you know, my mom. And my mom doesn't text,

562
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: but you know, so she'll tell me after games. You know,

563
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: she'll ask me stuff like she'll she'll tell me stop frowning,

564
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: stop looking so serious. I don't like that suit that

565
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: suits too tight. Oh I do like that suite. I

566
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: like that. You know a lot of the texts I

567
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: get now, man, I mean, knock on what I mean.

568
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: People have been very complimentary and they've been very pleased

569
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: with how it's going. For some reason. You know, I'd

570
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: love three piece suits, like I'd wear one every week.

571
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: That's become a big discussion for me for people on

572
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: social media. But it's uh yeah, I mean it's the

573
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: only thing. I'll tell you what I other, Well, not

574
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: really regret. I just wish that my father was still alive.

575
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: He passed away fifteen years ago, but if he was

576
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: still alive, that would be pretty cool. He would he's

577
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: he's watching now anyway, but I just love to see

578
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: his reaction. He'd probably be like, you're the same kid,

579
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: who I used to have to chase to go to bed.

580
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: You know when Money and I used to come on

581
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock and I used to beg in and

582
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: let me stay up until halftime, even just going, my

583
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: boy is doing Monday night football. You gotta be kidding me.

584
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: That would be. That's what I wish he was still

585
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: here to see. That's probably how Orlando Brown Jr. Feels too,

586
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: And that a big boost. That was my guy, that

587
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Bill beltiic love Zeus. That was one of the meanest

588
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: SLBs ever. But I mean he was a great dude. Now, look,

589
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: don't get me on the field. He was in the room.

590
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Zeus always was trying to hold back a smile because

591
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: he was like a big kid. He was just huge, man.

592
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: And that's I have so many great memories of this town,

593
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: man and this team when I was here. Incredible. That's awesome.

594
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Well you do a great job, Louis. We really appreciate

595
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time today. You can't wait for

596
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: the game on Monday night and so we're gonna be

597
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big one. I know you do

598
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: a great job on the broadcast, So thanks so much

599
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Speaker 1: for the time absolutely thanks for having me. Guys. Rivers

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Lewis for joining us. Uh. Really good

610
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: insight from him. Uh, he's he does a great job

611
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: on the Monday Night Football Crew, and make sure you

612
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: watch that game on ESPN Monday. In Cleveland. This game,

613
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: it was interesting. John Harball was asked about it during

614
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: his press conference over the weekend, and I can attest

615
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: to this just talking with friends and family in Cleveland.

616
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: There is a feeling in Cleveland. This is one of

617
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: the biggest games there in recent memory. They're nine and three.

618
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: They're obviously right in the thick of the playoff race.

619
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: They've got as the best team they've had there in

620
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: a long time. They've won four straight games, were coming

621
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: all their best game of the season. There is real

622
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: excitement around that team in a city that's been starred

623
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: for success, and uh, you won't necessarily feel it as

624
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: much without you know, seventy thousand fans there, but um,

625
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: there is a lot of attention on that team and

626
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement. It will be interesting to see

627
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: what happens on Monday. I feel like I've heard that

628
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: narrative out of Cleveland before leading into a Ravens Brown's game, Like,

629
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: wasn't that the narrative before the uh kick six for

630
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Will Hill drove the dagger into the Brown's heart. I

631
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: feel like that was like some big game and they

632
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we might, we might make the playoffs,

633
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: we have a chance this here and then just the dagger, right,

634
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: that might have been I think that there was some optimism. Yeah, yeah,

635
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: the difference though, I think that was um yeah, and

636
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that was the year where the Ravens just I'm pretty

637
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: sure it was fifteen. That was a year where this

638
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: if it is fifteen, the ras just didn't have that

639
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: good of a team. I mean, they went five and

640
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: eleven that year. So the difference here is that both

641
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: of these teams are right in the thick of this

642
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: playoff race. Um, and whoever loses this game, well, the

643
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: Browns have a nice lead. So even if they were

644
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: losing this game, they can still make the playoffs. But

645
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: they're probably they're probably they're probably in um. But yeah, look, man,

646
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I think I think that when I when you compare

647
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: this game, you look back at what happened Week one,

648
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Ravens obviously dominated that game. UM. I don't put a

649
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: ton of stock into that. I just think the Browns

650
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: are obviously a better team. You've heard me say on

651
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: the podcast multiple times over the past few years. If

652
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: they start to have some success, that's when you have

653
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: to watch out, because then they can get rid of

654
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: the kind of the negative self talk that goes. Yeah,

655
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: like you just that you if you lose games early,

656
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: then the attitudes here we go again. But all of

657
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, if you win games and you go on

658
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: a roll, then it's like that's the old Browns. This

659
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: is a new to this is a new time, and

660
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: I think that the Browns are kind of feeling that

661
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: right now. Um, and that Week one game, it just

662
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: was weird. It kind of got away from them super quickly.

663
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Interception on the opening drive, Ravens marsh on the field.

664
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I had barely even gotten to

665
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: my desk and it was fourteen nothing in that game.

666
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: It just happened so quick. And I think that for

667
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: for those reasons. Um, I don't know, I don't know

668
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: how much you look at that and that gives you

669
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: confidence going into this game. Yeah, by the way, I

670
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: was definitely off. The Browns won three games that year.

671
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: That was definitely not definitely not the talk going to

672
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: second uh right, Yeah, I know that that was has

673
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: been a narrative, but it wasn't that year. I can

674
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: tell you that much. I mean, I agree with you,

675
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: but I do think that, like I don't know. I mean,

676
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: I think I think the Browns are a good team,

677
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: I really do. And uh but I think the Ravens

678
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: know how to play the Browns and I think that

679
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: are gonna I think they're gonna throw them off their

680
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: game a little bit, you know. I watch out for

681
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: that tricky stuff the Browns always like to try against us.

682
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Though there's gonna be a trick play at some point

683
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I just know it. Oh, it's something like that, for sure,

684
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: something like that. It's like I feel like the Browns

685
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: are almost in that like New England territory where you're

686
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: just waiting for it, just waiting for it. Um So yeah,

687
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Ravens have the stuff. The Browns

688
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: run game that is essential in this game. And you're

689
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: not gonna stuff it. You're not gonna shut down. But

690
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: you can't let Chubb and Hunt run wild over you.

691
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: That's the key. Um So, you know, I think I

692
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: think the Ravens we got we started talking about it

693
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: at the beginning, but you know, that was a good

694
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: win over Dallas, a great win. Dallas is not a

695
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: good team. Let's just let's just put it out there.

696
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, their defense is not that good. So, like

697
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: I am, I am encouraged, and I definitely think the

698
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Ravens can go on a run here. But they have

699
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: to still continue to play better football and they certainly

700
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: have to play better football than they did in Dallas

701
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: when they go up against the Browns here Monday night.

702
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: Now the Ravens beat the Browns, I'm all in pushing

703
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: my chips to the center of the table size it up.

704
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: Going on the run underdogs in the playoffs. I love it. Uh,

705
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, first round matchup against the Steelers, you know,

706
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: after they lose the first round by just you know,

707
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. So yeah, I think this is obviously

708
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: a huge game for both sides. And I like that

709
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: the Ravens are no longer in the driver's seat kind

710
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: of like they are no longer the top dog and uh,

711
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: you know, have the target on their back and all

712
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: that stuff. Like now it's kind of the pressure to

713
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: a degree, is like on the Browns, you know, like,

714
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: are the Browns are the hot team right now? Are

715
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: they going to be the ones that kind of live

716
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: up to it? You know? So are they like the

717
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: back backs against the wall mentality? Yeah, Ravens back against

718
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: the backs against the wall and the Browns are are

719
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: you for real? Like that's the narrative going in this game.

720
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: You know one thing I got to give you a

721
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: little bit of credit on and we talked about this

722
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: briefly on the podcast last week, but you made the

723
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: point that you felt like for Lamar Jackson and going

724
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: on the COVID list, being removed from the team for

725
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: ten days, having to deal with that kind of having

726
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: football taken away from you for a brief time, but

727
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: still disappointing that that could almost serve as a reset

728
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: to him, um and what has been a challenging season

729
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: up to this point. And it looked like that against Dallas.

730
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: He looked like he was having more fun and even

731
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: said that after the game, like he was so excited

732
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: to get back that it was it almost felt like

733
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: he just could go out there and play free because

734
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: he was just so happy to be back. So I'll

735
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: give you credit. You called you kind of called that one. Yeah,

736
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I've gotten I've been like

737
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: calling the J. K. Dobbins breakout game every single game

738
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: since Week one, and then I finally hit. You know,

739
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: so like every once in a while, every once in

740
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: a while, I stumbled my way into a good prediction.

741
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: My dad, My dad before every game always texts me

742
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: for my final score prediction. They never get it. Oh

743
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm so bad, so far off. But I will say

744
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I was actually pretty close on the Dallas game. I

745
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: think I think I was like really close. So maybe

746
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm like the Ravens. I'm hitting

747
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: my stride lateness and I'm in December. I'm a December analyst, Garrett. Okay,

748
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: that's what you get the strongest. Okay, all right, that's fair.

749
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: The other thing I do want to say is I

750
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: think that the game against the Cowboys, well they had

751
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: their defense is not good against the run, so certainly

752
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: take that into account. But I do think that that

753
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: could be a bit of a recipe for this team

754
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: in terms of what they need to do down the stretch.

755
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: They put up nearly three d yards on the ground.

756
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Obviously you won't be able to do that every week,

757
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: but they played no certainly not but but they think

758
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: the more through for a hundred yards two touchdowns. But

759
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: I also had a hundred yards almost on the ground.

760
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Um running the football and playing that type of bolleyball.

761
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the recipe for this team. That's

762
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: what they did at their best last year, and I

763
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the key. They've got a

764
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: great backfield with with those guys Um and Lamar running

765
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: the ball. I just feel like that's the recipe for

766
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: this team to have success. Like that is what they

767
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: do when the Ravens are at their best, and we

768
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: saw it against Alice. Let me let me go on

769
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: the pedestal here for a minute and and rant a

770
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm I might be president. I might be

771
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the president of the J. K. Dobbins Fan Club. Okay,

772
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: I've said it from the beginning. This kid is gonna

773
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: be a star. But the Ravens fans out there who

774
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: are pretending like mark Ingram has no value anymore, are

775
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: just just bothering me. They're bothering me. Okay, I get it.

776
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I've been saying like Dobbins needed more carries since halfway

777
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: through the season, right, I mean, and the Ravens have

778
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: done it. I mean the last three games. They think

779
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: it is that the guys have been all three I've

780
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: been on the field. He's had here it is, Okay,

781
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: I got it. Over the past four games that each

782
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: player has played, Dobbins has forty three carries edwards when

783
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: he's six and Ingram eighteen. That's not particularly close, right,

784
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean, so clearly Dobbins has been elevated to the lead,

785
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: lead dog role like he's not gonna but all the

786
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Ravens aren't gonna all of a sudden turn into just

787
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: a two backfield offense and say we're not giving Ingram anything.

788
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Ingram is a good player. He serves, he

789
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: serves his purpose, and he keeps he helps keep the

790
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: whole unit fresh. He's a he's a shot in the

791
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: arm for this offense. And the dude's made some plays

792
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: this year. Like, let's not pretend like he's averaging one

793
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: yard to carry. He's averaging four point one, which isn't

794
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: as good as Dobbins and not as good as Edwards

795
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: right now. But it's not like the guy has like

796
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: no value. I mean, come on, is this who we

797
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: are as a Ravens fan base really that we turn

798
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: on mark Ingram like this? I mean, come on, it's

799
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: just fathering me. Yeah, alright, rants over, Well, that's fair.

800
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean he has been Um yeah, I think the

801
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: fans are kind of discarding him and that's not fair.

802
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: And I also like, I like what the Ravens did

803
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: with him last game in the in the second half

804
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: of a key game. Ingram someone who's been there, He's

805
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: experienced it. He's a vet. I do like him carrying

806
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: the ball in the third and fourth quarter when you

807
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: need to move the football, Um, you need to pick

808
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: up a tough, a tough first down on third and

809
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: two I like Ingram in that role. Um, I like

810
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Gus too, But but I mean, I like all of them,

811
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think Ingram should be getting zero. And

812
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm with you on that. I think I

813
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: think the j K should be getting the most um

814
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: and Gus would be getting second. But to say that

815
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: Ingram should just be out of the mix entirely, I'm

816
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: not buying that. I'm not there. So yeah, I agree.

817
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think I think the Ravens, let's

818
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: call it right now, who's out of the playoffs in

819
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: order to make space for the Ravens and the Dolphins

820
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: dropping out, the Colds dropping out. What's your final prediction here?

821
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: I could see the Cold Browns game. I could see

822
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: the Colds dropping out, really I could. Um, you know,

823
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has been dealing with injuries. Um, I can

824
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: see them. I can see them dropping out. I mean,

825
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: also the Dolphins. That's what I'm saying, Dolphins, Dolphins are

826
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna drop. Yeah, the Chiefs this weekend, Chiefs followed by

827
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and now the Patriots are pretty bad on

828
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. But I'm not ruling out the Patriots,

829
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: especially against a divisional foe with extra rest because they

830
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: just played on Thursday. Then they're the Dolphins are at

831
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Raiders at Bills. Yeah, it's a tough stretch. I think

832
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: that they're probably the most likely to fade just based schedule,

833
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: but you know the culture, you know what though, you

834
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: know what, though, sorry, what's gonna really just chat my behind.

835
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the week seventeen Miami at Bills. Bills

836
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: have the a f C East locked up, but they

837
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: have no shot in the first round by only one

838
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: team has it and then just rest everybody and let

839
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Miami get a freebee. That's just gonna chat my behind. Yeah.

840
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens, look, they probably they probably need

841
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: to win out. I don't see. I don't think so.

842
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: See I I think I think that I'm not saying definitely,

843
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: but I think that that is being a little bit

844
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: overstated right now. I think the Ravens could get into

845
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: ten and six. All right, Well, time we'll tell, time,

846
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: We'll tell that. I will see the Ravens. The a

847
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: f C record is not in their favor in that regard.

848
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: It's not They're not in good tiebreaker position unless they

849
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: were to end up with a one on one tie

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Speaker 1: with the Colts, because then you have head to head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I think if it's like a three

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Speaker 1: team tie, like if the Dolphins, Colts, and Ravens were tied,

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Speaker 1: then the head to head goes out the window because

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Speaker 1: the Ravens haven't played. They all have to play. You

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Speaker 1: always get into these tiebreakers. It's too early for for that.

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Speaker 1: You got them up on the chalkboard. We have four

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Speaker 1: weeks like you got it up on the chalkboard, and

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Speaker 1: all these different scenarios if this team loses these three games,

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Speaker 1: if this team wins too, if they tie, here a

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Speaker 1: million different scenarios. I can't help that I'm smarter than you.

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00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: I can't help that I'm smarter than you. I'm like

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00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: that that gift where you know, it's like from wedding.

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Speaker 1: What is the movie? I don't have any pop culture?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you didn't you start this conversation talking about how

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Speaker 1: you you know, fake your way walking across the stage

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Speaker 1: and barely that was my friends. That was my friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my friend did this. I don't. I didn't do this.

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Speaker 1: My friend did this. I think that's what the conversation certified.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, so that's it. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week. As always, you can email us of the

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Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you after a b