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Speaker 1: It's now officially open. Welcome to another edition of Draft Season.

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Speaker 2: I am John Schmelk, joined as always by Tony Pauline.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tony, you for a lot of college football

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Speaker 2: plays since we last spoke last week. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us, By the way, on a special Friday edition, folks,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to wait until we got all the second

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Speaker 2: round of the college football playoffs in the bags. I

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Speaker 2: guess he's the quarterfinals, right, so we could talk about

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Speaker 2: all those games and some of the other bowl games

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Speaker 2: as well. We'll leave the College FOOTBA playoffs for last

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Speaker 2: programming note. We hope to record next Monday and have

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Speaker 2: Eric Galco from the Shrine game on record that late

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Speaker 2: Monday after and hopefully that'll be up sometime on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: or Wednesday. So and then we're gonna look ahead to

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Speaker 2: the next round of College FOOTBA playoffs, and the following show

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Speaker 2: will react to the games next Thursday and Friday, they

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Speaker 2: will probably record that on the following Monday. So a

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Speaker 2: lot going on the college football playoffs, Tony. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be talking about these games up until a week before

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Speaker 2: we leave for you know, First Go.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my flights set up.

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Speaker 2: First day of practice, by the way I've looked at

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Speaker 2: that Friday and then write the Senior Ball so there

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Speaker 2: will be no shortage of things going on over the

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Speaker 3: Weeks, which is good. I mean, it's never boring. And

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Speaker 3: then you are from the Shrine the Senior prepare for

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Speaker 3: the Combine right in the pro days, and before you

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Speaker 3: know it, the draft will be here. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't really like the playoffs being dragged until the

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Speaker 3: end of January. Kind of sets up problems as far

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Speaker 3: as which underclassmen are going to enter the draft, sets

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Speaker 3: up problems as far as combine in predictations are concerned.

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Speaker 3: You know, even the Shrine and the Senior Ball may

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Speaker 3: miss out on a few guys because that game is

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Speaker 3: so late, but it keeps us on our toes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does, and so why don't we start there, Tony,

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Speaker 2: This wasn't even in your list of games, but since

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Speaker 2: you brought it up and we did have an announcement,

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Speaker 2: I believe it was yesterday on Thursday from this player

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Speaker 2: in the very very legendary RelA Quest Bowl. Michigan defeated

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Speaker 2: Alabama in that game nineteen to thirteen. And the reason

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Speaker 2: I want to bring the game up is that in

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Speaker 2: that game, Jalen Milroe is sixteen of thirty two one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety two yards a touchdown interception. Obviously, Alabama's

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Speaker 2: offense had trouble getting going over the course of that game.

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Speaker 2: But he did announce that he's declaring for the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: He's heading in coming off a not so great game.

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Speaker 2: What do you see as the prospects for him? We

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Speaker 2: talk in late first round, early second round. Can he

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Speaker 2: do you think it's gonna look like for Jalen Milroe

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Speaker 2: once we get through kind of this draft process for him, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's gonna be first round. Remember we had Jim

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Speaker 3: Nagion and Jim talked about Jalen Milroe going to the

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Speaker 3: I think it would be important for Jalen Milroe to

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Speaker 3: of practice. Anybody who's watched this program knows. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm a guy who has been on the Jalen Milroe

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Speaker 3: I mean, he started the season hot. You can't forget

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Speaker 3: So I think from a physical standpoint, no one comes

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Speaker 3: But I think he's shown enough good things. And remember

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wolf, Dwayne, and see how that goes for him.

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Speaker 2: Is you're right he didn't get into one of those

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Speaker 2: I think that could really help him. All right, Let's

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Alamo Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Colorado just gets obliterated by BYU in that game, thirty

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Speaker 2: But if you watch that game, he really struggled to

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Speaker 3: It was those two big plays by Travis Hunter. I mean,

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Speaker 3: first of all, was a strange game. The Alam mobow

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the pass protection wasn't good again, he did

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Speaker 2: Cam Ward, on the other hand, Tony, he had quite

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Speaker 2: a nice swan song for Miami, plays only the first

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Speaker 2: if you've gotten different feedback. But I thought cam Ward

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Speaker 2: Accurate in your notes, I agree, really good touch, good vision,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and that's been the story all season right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, no one expected anything great from

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Speaker 3: Where Shador Sanders, Jalen Milroe, Quin Viewers, Drew Allen, They've

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Speaker 3: It would have made a great story if he played

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Speaker 3: the touch of ability to throw a catchable pass, the

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Speaker 3: week after week. I mean, he is this year's version

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna look, it's I haven't watched all the tape.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch Tony, but it's gonna take a lot,

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Speaker 2: I think for me to have Wards slide out of

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Speaker 2: And while he doesn't have an eight plus arm, he

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Speaker 2: a B plus at all those categories, all right, Right,

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Speaker 2: his lack of arm strength doesn't hold you back.

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Speaker 1: He's mobile enough.

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Speaker 2: His arm angles and stuff like that give him a

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Speaker 1: It's hard to poke a ton of holes in his game.

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Speaker 3: And it's not that he has a weak arm. His

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Speaker 3: will pick things. You know, the physical package is not

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Speaker 3: Jalen Milrose, but he's much more complete. He's much more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. All right.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the next game here, and that was

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Speaker 1: Watching that game, they lean into the campiness. I just

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. Let's go over to the Pinchtripe Bowl, Tony.

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Speaker 2: What were some of the guys that jumped out of

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Speaker 2: you in that game for Nebraska?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean you look in Nebraska, we talk We're

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Speaker 3: Thomas Faedon five receptions for fifty yards. He's the guy.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't announced for the draft yet. I'm surprised because

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Speaker 3: Matt Ruhle has told people, as told Fiddon himself either

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Speaker 3: he really doesn't fit what Nebraska wants to do on offense.

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Speaker 3: out a variety of spots. They line him up on

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Speaker 1: All right, let me put us in reverse a little bit, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen carries, one hundred to seventy nine yards in a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, and I think he's one of the

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Speaker 3: Damian Martinez is I agree with you. I see a

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Speaker 3: But again, like you said, fourteen carrigs one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had that big run earlier in that game

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Speaker 2: let's go to these sixty eight ventures bowl Tony Arkansas

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Speaker 2: State defeating Bowling Green in that game thirty eight to

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Speaker 3: Well, he's draw on everybody's Harold Fatty. He's been one

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Speaker 3: seventeen receptions, two hundred and thirteen yards. One TD just

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Speaker 3: but I think he's more could be more of a

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Speaker 3: Still quality player and he is in the draft now Tony.

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Speaker 2: I have not watched him yet, so I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 2: a name out there and you tell me if this

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Speaker 2: McBride if I remember right.

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Speaker 3: I think McBride's actually gonna I agree with I understand

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Speaker 3: what you're saying. McBride's a little bit faster. Ok, we'll

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Speaker 3: You know how Fatnon runs, But that is gonna be

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Speaker 3: bad job blocking. They just he's just the main cog

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Speaker 3: in that offense. Had more than one hundred receptions last year,

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Speaker 2: Of course, all right, we're gonna wrap up our tight

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt finishing a strong season, they

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Speaker 2: Eli Stowers we've talked about here before. Tony another good game,

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Speaker 2: still seems to be some question as to whether or

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Speaker 3: You go, you beat me to it. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: I stay at Vanderbilt one more year and collect a

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Speaker 3: is your outstanding move tight end prospect. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: he's like two one hundred and thirty five to two

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Speaker 2: I mean they're offering you a million dollars and you're

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say no to that.

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Speaker 2: And I would say go join another year Vanderbilt, have

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Speaker 1: That'd be a good time for you.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to the holiday boll Tony

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Speaker 2: Syracuse in Washington State, and it's funny. All we talked

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Speaker 2: And in the Holiday Bowl twenty four to thirty four,

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Speaker 2: And I was listening to Dame Bruwer the other day. He said,

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Speaker 3: I mean last year in Ohio State, he was the

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Speaker 3: He was staring down receivers, he was giving away his targets.

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Speaker 3: is able to do different things. The touchdown to interception

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look for him, and he'll be a guy we're

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Speaker 2: All right, Tony, Let's get to the college football playoffs here, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the Bowl Penn State, Boise State. Penn State kind of

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Speaker 3: Hit and miss. But you know, they would put eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, and then you want to talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ahman Hassani and six tackles. One sacked three tackles

432
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Speaker 3: for the loss. Beat Tyler Warren badly in the early

433
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 3: in the first half for a TfL when Boise State

434
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 3: was still in the game. Junior, I don't think he's

435
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 3: gonna come out more of a form man front defensive

436
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 3: end pass rusher, but a guy that's been really I'd

437
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 3: like him up the twenty twenty three film, and I

438
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 3: think he's shown some progress in his game throughout the year.

439
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Penn State and Drew Aller

440
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. You like that, twelve of twenty five, one

441
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one yards nothing, you know, overwhelming, And

442
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 2: while he has said he intends to go back to school,

443
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: there are some shatter that that he could change his

444
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: mind if he plays well enough in these final couple games.

445
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: And you know he thinks he's going to be a

446
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 2: first round pick a quarterback. Have you seen enough from

447
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 2: him to make teams want to move him up the boards?

448
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Here and get into what would I would for you

449
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: at least be Jalen Milroe territory top twenty, top fifteen

450
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 2: type of pick here?

451
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Speaker 1: What did you think of alex performance? And what are

452
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Speaker 1: you hearing.

453
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 2: About whether or not he might change his mind and

454
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Speaker 2: end up going into the draft.

455
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Speaker 3: Well, the first question is no, I mean I could

456
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: he go first round? Could he go late first round? Yeah,

457
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: he's got the physical skills, He's got a great deep arm,

458
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 3: he makes some incredible passes at times. He had that

459
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: sensational true freshman season, so you know he can do it.

460
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: But like Jaylen Milrow and like a lot of the

461
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks in this class, there's been a lot of inconsistency.

462
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: There hasn't really been a time the past year where

463
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: Juwel lar has put the Penn State offense on his

464
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: back and carried it, you know it through a big game.

465
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Even here, we're going to talk about Kaye Tron Allen

466
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: and that was the you know, the straw that started

467
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: to drink in this game for the Penn State offense.

468
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: Is he going to answer? Could he change his mind? Listen?

469
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: A month ago I wrote an article on sports Gater

470
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: that people at Penn State were telling me he was

471
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: going to enter the draft. So why was cond of

472
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: shocked when he made the announcement as early as he

473
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Speaker 3: did that he was going back to Penn State. So

474
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: that idea that he was going to enter the draft

475
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: has been out there for the longest time. I haven't

476
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: heard about what he's going to do as far as

477
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: next level. Could he change his mind? I think he's

478
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 3: more focused on the college football players, and why not

479
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 3: because it looks like Penn State's going to be playing

480
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: for a national title. But it wouldn't surprise me based

481
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: on what I wrote back in early November that people

482
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: in the Penn State program were telling me that he

483
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Speaker 3: was going to enter the draft.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll have to see what he ends up doing. Otherwise,

485
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: for Penn State. What'd you see that impressed you?

486
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: I mean Kate tron Allen seventeen rushes one hundred and

487
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: thirty four yards. He's not fast, but he's big, he's powerful.

488
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 3: Go back to Damian Martinez. You know we're going to

489
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: talk about Camp Scatterborough in a little while. I mean,

490
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: these bigger backs are sort of now more in vogue

491
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: because they're not just put your head down and run

492
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 3: in the middle of the pile and push the pile.

493
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: They can create their quick They've got good speed, and

494
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 3: I think k tron Allen fits that mold, which is

495
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: why he's a middle round pick. I think defensively, when

496
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: you looked at Penn State, Danny, Dennis Sutton, who I

497
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: mentioned a week ago against SMU, Kobe King, the middle linebackers.

498
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: You Onlee read the safety. You know we talked about

499
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: shutting down Ashton Genty. Those three guys had good games

500
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: and they were part and parcel or main factor and

501
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: shutting down Ashton Genty and Dennis Sutton continues to show

502
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: himself to be a real good pass rusher right now.

503
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: I think all these guys are Day three prospects, but

504
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: they are legitimate NFL talent.

505
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: The other game in that bracket, the Sugar Bowl Georgia

506
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame.

507
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: That game got delayed. One of the reasons why we

508
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: waited till Friday. The record this week because of the

509
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: terrorist attack down there in New Orleans. Just terrible.

510
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: It was played at four o'clock on Thursday afternoon, and

511
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: this was exactly the type of game I think we

512
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be. You know, Carson Beck, we

513
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: talked about that. He's just done the girl elbow surgery.

514
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Tony with his UCL so who knows when he's gonna

515
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: be able to throw football again.

516
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: We could talk about that if you want to.

517
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: But Riley Leonard just ninety passing yards in the game,

518
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: eighty rushing yards, but just a series of events from

519
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: the very end of the second quarter to the start

520
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: of the third quarter with a takeaway, a field goal,

521
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: a touchdown, and then a kick return for a touchdown

522
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of swung.

523
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Speaker 1: The game to Notre Dame.

524
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: And early Trevor at and fumble deep in Notre Dame

525
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: territory was big for Georgia, and Notre Dame ends up

526
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: controlling the game. They beat Georgia twenty three to ten.

527
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: I didn't think the game was gonna turn out like that.

528
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: I mean I thought going into it, you know, with

529
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: with Notre Dame losing Riley Mills and you know that

530
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: you looked at that Georgia defense against the Notre Dame offense,

531
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: I didn't think really Notre Dame had much of a chance.

532
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: But it was a David against Goliath.

533
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Speaker 2: And well, I said Tony, I just made it kind

534
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: of like the amount of points scored.

535
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be some super high scoring game.

536
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: I understanding. Yeah, but I think from a scouting point

537
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: of view, you can take more out of it from

538
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: what Georgia didn't do versus what Notre Game did. I

539
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: mean Notrere game players. They were solid. Some of the

540
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: guys came up with big plays. You saw that that

541
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: great sack by romanovin. Their safety continues to play well.

542
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: R j Oben, I'm sorry, I'm roman There you go.

543
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: Joben had a great sack.

544
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Howard Cross played well I thought

545
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: in the.

546
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Game until until he had he had cramp Lake in

547
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: the game. They're safety continues to play well. Riley Leonard

548
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: didn't react well with pressure, But I mean they were

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: breathing down his neck, but he didn't turn the ball

550
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: over and he won the game. From a Georgia perspective,

551
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: I think the Georgia offensive line continues to play poorly,

552
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: and they're a talented group that should not be that bad.

553
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: Jayalen Walker, I mean, I was impressed with Jalen Walker

554
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: because he seems to be getting better. He is just

555
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: a powerful guy. You saw him just obliterate some of

556
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: those blocks that from the Notre Dame offensive lineman to

557
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: penetrate the line of scrimmage and get pressure and force

558
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard to move around. You know. But in the

559
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: Zier stack house, he has a good play and then

560
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: he disappears for long stretches. Then he has a good play,

561
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: he disappears for long stretches. The Georgia receivers make good

562
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: plays and then they drop passes that are basically placed

563
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: in their hands. So I think from a scouting perspective,

564
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: I came away with it more from the Georgia players,

565
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: and a lot of it was more negative than it

566
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: was positive.

567
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: All right, now we have Penn State and Notre Dame Tony,

568
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna take place. That's the Orange Bowl semi final.

569
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Matchup next week. An old school Northeast you know, run

570
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: the ball type of game between these two teams that

571
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: are linked back when you know, Penn State went into

572
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: the Big Ten for the first time and no Dame

573
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: was supposed to they didn't, so a lot of links

574
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: between these two schools. Really an old school match up here. Well,

575
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: who are some of the guys you're gonna be keeping

576
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: an eye on?

577
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: And not a great scouting matchup, you know, but not

578
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: a great game for NFL draft fans. And I looked

579
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: at my board and there were four players Abdull Carter,

580
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: Benjamin Morrison. Note you, Dame, Tyler Warren, Penn State, drew

581
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: a lar Penn State that projects either first or second

582
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: round choices, and Benjamin Morrison is in the game. He

583
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: hasn't played since the beginning of the season because of

584
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: a hip injury, but there's still some matchups to watch. Obviously,

585
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: he talked about Drew Lawer, does he change his name?

586
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: Xavier Watch has played very well. He's played very well

587
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. He was good all season. Not a

588
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: not a big rangey safety, but a smart, instinctive guy

589
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: that knows how to make plays on the ball. And

590
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: you know that watch is gonna be keen on a

591
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: law trying to goat him into a mistake. Riley Leonard

592
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: against a dual carter, I mean Riley Leonard did not

593
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: react well to the pressure yesterday against Georgia. Now he

594
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: goes against a dual carter who's better than Jalen Walker.

595
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: I think the Georgia front four and pass rush on

596
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: a whole is better than what Penn State puts on

597
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: the field, which is not bad. It's just that George

598
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: is so good. But again, you know it's gonna come

599
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: down to or the guy the keyon obviously is gonna

600
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 3: be a dual carter who's going to be a top

601
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: four pick. And then that Notre Dame defensive line trying

602
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: to stop Nick Singleton and Kate Tron. Allen's sort of

603
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: like your thunder and lightning. Allen is your bigger pounder,

604
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: although he's fast and is quick that can run over you. Well,

605
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: Nick Singleton is the smaller, sleeker running back that create

606
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: can create yardage and you know, a smaller notes You

607
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: Dame defensive line who did a good job yesterday, you know,

608
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: running stunts and a lot of games to kind of

609
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: keep those big body. The Georgia offensive linemen off of

610
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: them at hit work. They're gonna have to come up

611
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: with another game plan to stop this. The Penn State

612
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: running game, which is better than Georgia's running game because

613
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: at And has really he's been injured for Georgia, but

614
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: it's really been a disappointment for most of the year,

615
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: including yesterday.

616
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the other side of the

617
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: bracket and the Peace Bowl. Arizona State makes a run

618
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: of it. They were down two scores at halftime, but

619
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: they come back overtime full just short against Texas thirty

620
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: nine to thirty one. Had Texas what was on a

621
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: fourth and twelve in the second overtime and they end

622
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: up throwing the touchdown pass. They give themselves the lead.

623
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: They get the two point conversion. Real tough game by

624
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: Arizona State and they do it behind Cam Skataboo. They're

625
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: a big running back thirty rushes one hundred and forty

626
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: three yards, eight catches for ninety nine yards.

627
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: He completed a pass as as a.

628
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: Running back option throw boy Tony. This guy is really

629
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: impressive as a player. I'm curious what kind of feedback

630
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: you're getting over him as a teammate in the guy

631
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: because he seems like a bit of a.

632
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Out there type of fella.

633
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: But just a very impressive performance against a very good

634
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: Texas team.

635
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, beat Texas. Running the ball, throwing the ball, catching

636
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: the ball. I'm told he even made a nice spaghetti

637
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: dinner for his teammates after the game. But does it

638
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: all We're gonna see him at the senior ball. I mean,

639
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: I think the thing is, you know, he was hurting

640
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. He was obviously dehydrated.

641
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: He was vomiting on the side of the field, on

642
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: the sidelines. He would have to drag himself onto the field.

643
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: When he got tackled, he would have to drag himself

644
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: up off the ground. And I watched the game, and

645
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: I was concerned, if they give this guy the ball again,

646
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna fumble it. I mean, he's just physically he's

647
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: not there. He produced, he scored that touchdown in overtime,

648
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: then he scored the two point conversion, and I mean

649
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: you could see, you know how how you know how

650
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: obliterated he was, both physically and mentally. After they lost

651
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: the game, and the teammates coming up to him and

652
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: you're trying to console him because I mean, you talk

653
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: about leaving everything on the field. That's exactly what he

654
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: did and produced in every way possible. You know, the

655
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: teammates like him. Remember he's only played at Arizona State

656
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: one year because he transferred over from Sacramento State, and

657
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: he was highly thought of by NFL scouts, highly thought

658
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: of being he was a mid day three pick, and

659
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: he's absolutely helped himself again, a bigger back who can

660
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: run over defenders as he likes to do, but also

661
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: has enough quickness to create yardage and move around piles

662
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: or make defenders.

663
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Miss four six.

664
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Speaker 3: You think, you know he's gonna time for six, but

665
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: he plays a lot faster. You know, he's got slow

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: forty speed, or he doesn't have great forty speed, but

667
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: he's got outstanding football speed, and he's got a football mind.

668
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Never mind the fact that you know, besides the ball carrying,

669
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: he's also a good pass catcher.

670
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: So someone here Tony said this to me. The other

671
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: said this would be yesterday, and I can't get it

672
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: out of my brain. Doesn't he just feel like a

673
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh running back to the Chargers. To you, that's

674
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: what he feels like someone said that to me, and

675
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: now I just cannot get that match out of my head.

676
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean makes sense. Jim Harbrough likes the defensive

677
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: lineman on the offensive line, but yeah, makes sense. I

678
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: mean I go back to he himself has compared himself

679
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: to Mike Alstart. I remember Brian Leonard who played for Rutgers.

680
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: I remember Brian Leonard interviewing me at the Senior Bowl

681
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: and he blood all over the place and he just

682
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: wanted to get back out there. But Oliver is jersey

683
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: over his pants and he just wanted to get it

684
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: back out there to play. He's definitely helped himself and

685
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: he's played great football. I mean he's played great. He

686
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: has been the passing game at Arizona Dad has been

687
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: hit or miss although their top receiver was on the sidelines,

688
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: which hurt him, and scatter Boat literally picked up the

689
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: ball and carried that team.

690
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think their young quarterback too, is someone

691
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on here next couple of years, Tony,

692
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: he played well. Rachel freshman not draft eligible, with someone

693
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on moving forward. Here a couple

694
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: guys up front for Texas defense that you liked.

695
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: In the game, Vernon brought and I thought played very well.

696
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: Had four tackles, penetrated the off of the line of

697
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: scrimmage A lot Trey Moore were spoken about continuously, especially

698
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks. Five tackles, two sacks, two

699
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: and a half tackles for lost good pass rusher transfer

700
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: from UTSA, Tennessee, San Antonio. I'm told he's very likely

701
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: to enter the draft. You know, quin you Weers twenty

702
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: for thirty three d and twenty two yards, three tds,

703
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: one interception, but again, a lot of inconsistency. He was

704
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: great on that first drive and you're like, okay, here

705
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: we go, Texas just going to blow him out of

706
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: the wallmount of stadium. And then literally for the next

707
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: three and a half quarters, he was inconsistent. At times,

708
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: he was bad, and then he comes back on that

709
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: last draft to tie the game, and then he was

710
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: terrific during overtime. So we got from Quinn Ewers what

711
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: we've gotten from him the past two years. A lot

712
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: of inconsistency, some wow moments and then some you know,

713
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: what is he doing moments. I think the Texas ol line,

714
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: which was injured, did not play well. Cam Williams is

715
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: out was out with the right knee injury. Though Kelvin

716
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Banks didn't play that well. They give up nine tackles

717
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: for loss and three sacks against the very nice, but

718
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: not dominant Arizona State defense, and that is something to

719
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: watch moving forward.

720
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: All right, then let's go to the Rose Bowl and

721
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: a game that I thought everyone was really looking forward to.

722
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I was too.

723
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be a fantastic game, and

724
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State just ends up rolling over Oregon.

725
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: It was they looked out match and outclassed.

726
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: And I want to leave the Ohio State offense to

727
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: the side for a second, because I think we're not

728
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: surprised with all the talent they have on that offense,

729
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: with the receivers and the running backs and all that.

730
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: But this Ohio State defense, I thought Tony did an

731
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: unbelievable job. Oregan's been able to run a well oiled

732
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: machine on that side of the ball all year, running

733
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: the football doing Gabriel has had a really good year.

734
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: And that Ohio State defense. We've talked about all the

735
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: draft eligible guys and the guys that went back from

736
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: last year to this year to kind of try to

737
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: come back to beat Michigan, which they couldn't.

738
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, they dominate Oregon, who.

739
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: Could not do a thing offensively in the entire first half,

740
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: and the final score is forty one to twenty one.

741
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State could have scored sixty in this game if

742
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: they wanted to.

743
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: And the thing is Ohio, like they did against Tennessee,

744
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: beat him from a word go. I mean, it wasn't

745
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: even close early on, and now Oregon had to play

746
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: catch up. And I think that, you know, just from

747
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: a conversation point of view, this is why a lot

748
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: of people are very angry at Ryan Day, because the

749
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Ohio State team that we've seen the past two weeks

750
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: is the one that we should have seen all season long.

751
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have struggled again Nebraska. They should have beat

752
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Oregon the first time around. They shouldn't have lost to Michigan.

753
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: Maybe not lost to Michigan obviously was a wake up call.

754
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: Excuse me, a battle a little bit of a cold here,

755
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: But that's why people are upset about with Ryan Day.

756
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: But again, you mentioned the defense. You know, Cody Simon

757
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: is a guy that we don't talk about because of

758
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: the star talent around him. Eleven tackles, three tackles for lost,

759
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: two sacks, and a pants breakup on a big third

760
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: down play. And he's been like that all season long.

761
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: And Cody Simon is the guy who I think is come.

762
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: In the lead up to the draft, you're gonna hear

763
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: about him. He's not gonna be mentioned. Then all of

764
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 3: a sudden, people are talking about him at Day three,

765
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: mid Day three, What surprise me? If Cody Simon who

766
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: when you watch the film. He's smart, he's instinctive, he

767
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: doesn't have mental lapses. But he's also six two and

768
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: a half two hundred and thirty two hundred thirty five

769
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: pounds and runs a four to six and makes plays

770
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: all over the field. Could end up as a Day

771
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: two pick. We talked about early on about how the

772
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: college playoffs would allow for a player to really shoot

773
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: up draft boards or really improve his draft stock, and

774
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 3: we did it talking about the quarterbacks. If there's one

775
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: player I think has helped his draft stock more than

776
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: any other during these first two rounds of the playoffs,

777
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: it would be Tyleek Williams of Ohio State. Yeah, he

778
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: only had three tackles against Oregon, but his ability to

779
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: penetrate the line of scrimmage, the ability to basically command

780
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: double team blocks has consistently presented opportunities for the T. JT.

781
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: Tatum Alois and the Jack Sawyers of Ohio State. He's

782
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 3: creating a lot of opportunities for his teams. He's creating

783
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: a lot of habits. And I think that right now

784
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: you're looking at four defensive tackles in the first round. TYLERK.

785
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 3: Williams is definitely in that conversation. He could be the fourth,

786
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: he could be the third. But I think that he

787
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: has probably helped himself, has improved this draft stock more

788
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: than any other player during this college football players because

789
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: of his play. The stacks aren't great, but when you

790
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: watch the film is constantly reathing havoc the Ohio State

791
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: secondary again, Denzel Burke, Davidson, Bigness, Own Ransom, Latham, Ransom,

792
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Jordan Hancock again. Guys who were victimized, especially the cornerbacks,

793
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: had a real good game for the second week in

794
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: a row. No lapsis, no big play breakdowns. This is

795
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: what we expected from them throughout the season. We're getting

796
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: it now. Jack Sawyer and JT. Toomlowell combined for four

797
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: sacks five tackles for loss against Josh Connelly and Johnny Cornelius.

798
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: Both of those guys are going to be drafted, Connor

799
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: in the top forty five, Cornelius a Day three pick,

800
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: and they just ate him alive. And you know, you

801
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about the offense. I agree, But again,

802
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: Trayvon Henderson eight rushes, ninety four yards and two tds.

803
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you know, just a guy who's gonna

804
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: go later than he should and if he stays healthy,

805
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna be very productive running back on Sunday.

806
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to start the defense. I mean,

807
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: the offense was going. Do you know.

808
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Henderson's that big play guy, right, he has that speed

809
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: to get the perimeter and make those big plays. He

810
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: had that big sixty yard touchdown run in this game.

811
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: And then the Meca book Again, I thought played well, Tony.

812
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: I thought he did a good job a wide receiver.

813
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: We know about Jeremiah Smith you know, unfortunately we can't

814
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: talk about him in the draft for another couple of years. Still,

815
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: he was fantastic. And then I know, you want to

816
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: talk about those guys. And then a couple of Oregon

817
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: defenders as well.

818
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Derek Harmon was very good. He was

819
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: tough to stop, he had a couple of tackles for loss,

820
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: and he was penetrating the offensive line. But I think

821
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: as a whole, the banged up, really realigned offensive line

822
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: for a house state did well. You know, Jordan Birch,

823
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: the big pass rusher. We got what we saw, but

824
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: what we expected from Jordan Burch, or at least what

825
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: we've gotten, I shouldn't say what we expected what we've

826
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: gotten for him for much of the past two years.

827
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: Early On has a big pressure tackle for loss, forces

828
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: the action on a third down play, and then he disappears.

829
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: And that's the problem with Jordan Burch. That's what the

830
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: scouts and the teams are gonna have to decide. Are

831
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: we gonna take Jordan Birch very early because of these

832
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: flash plays, because of the potential that he shows, or

833
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: are we going to downgrade it because while he makes

834
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: these flash plays, he disappears for stretches and games on end.

835
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: Granted he's had a lot of injury, but there's never

836
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: been that production. There's never been that meeting of expectation

837
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: of Jordan Birch, whether it was early in the South

838
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: Carolina career or at Oregon. And that's what we saw

839
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 3: on the Rose bull against Ohio State.

840
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: And then you mentioned now Notre Dame and Penn State

841
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: maybe not the best scouting matchup. Well, here's the opposite

842
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: of that spectrum of Tony because Texas and Ohio State.

843
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: Just looking at the notes you gave me, we're.

844
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Looking at five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten guys for

845
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: you that at first or second round grades. Another half

846
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: doesen't that of third or fourth round grades. A lot

847
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: of future pro are going to be taking on each

848
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: other in that Cotton Bowl.

849
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big time scouting game for the

850
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: NFL Draft. This is some a game that a lot

851
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: of people are going to be focused on. I've got

852
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: sixteen players with top potential, top one hundred grade. Sixteen

853
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: players are going to be first, second, or third round picks,

854
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: and there are a lot of great matchups from a

855
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: game point of view. You know, you look at Ohio State,

856
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 3: who seems to be hitting their stride at the right time,

857
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: and Texas, who seems to be struggling to cross the

858
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: finish line. And I think if it's if it's like

859
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: that going into the game, we could see another Ohio

860
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: State blowout, especially if Texas plays the way they did

861
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: against the Arizona State. But again, you know, you start

862
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Speaker 3: with the Texas offensive line against the Ohio State defensive libe.

863
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: You know, is Cameron Williams who has that right king

864
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: is he gonna be able to come back at right

865
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: tackle and play effectively? How is Calvin Banks at one

866
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: hundred percent? And is he also going to be able

867
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: to play effectively? Those guys against two and Mayola and

868
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Jack Sawyer who've been whites out the past couple of

869
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: weeks in the playoffs, It's gonna be a tough task

870
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: for those players. Even on the inside Hayden Connor and

871
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: Jake Majors both their Day three picks against Tyleek Williams.

872
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: They better be on their game. And then you flip

873
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: it around, or I'm sorry, you don't even flip it around.

874
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: You you go to the queen Ewers versus the Ohio

875
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: State secondary, which I as I just mentioned, has played

876
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: very well the past two weeks. They haven't had the

877
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: mental breakdowns and quin Ewers with the inconsistency quin Ewers

878
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 3: can't play the way he did against Averzon the State

879
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: because this is not only from a point of view

880
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: of a game incredibly important, but now he's playing against

881
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot of talent or players that are as talented

882
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: as he's going to be playing against Sunday, and this

883
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: is gonna be a big measuring stick as far as

884
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: NFL scouts are concerned.

885
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: And then flipping around, how about the other matchup but

886
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: defense against Ohio State's offense.

887
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Moore who I mentioned, Baron Sowell, who've talked

888
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: about before, Ethan Burke who we talked about last week.

889
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: You know, can they exploit that Ohio State defensive line

890
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: that will two starters? You now have Donovan Jackson as

891
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 3: we've seen the former guard playing left tackle. No one's

892
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: been able to do it during the college football playoffs.

893
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: Really mean, I mean, they basically did a good job

894
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: against overall against Oregon. The Texas defensive line, the players

895
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: that they line up in the front floor may not

896
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: have the top talent or the top end talent that

897
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Oregon has, but I think as a whole there are

898
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: more talented unit and they can rotake some guys in.

899
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: So this is gonna be another big challenge for Ohio

900
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: State offensive line. And I think even though he's played

901
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 3: well at Donovan Jackson, even though he's played well left tackle,

902
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson has helped his draft stock at guard because

903
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: he's not gonna play left tackle in the NFL. But

904
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: he did a good job at guard before being pushed

905
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: out to left tackle, and he's done a real good

906
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: job there filling in for Josh Simmons. So I think

907
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: that's major for him, be another big challenge. And then

908
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: you know John Day Bantry versus a Jeremiah Smith and

909
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: a Mecca Buca. Obviously John Day Barrett can't do it himself,

910
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: but that's gonna be a big matchup. You know, you

911
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: know Jeremiah Smith, he likes to talk a lot, is

912
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: very confident. He's said before the game, Oregon can't cover

913
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: me man demand and they couldn't. John Day Baron's a

914
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: guy who's got great ball skills. He's got I don't

915
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: want to say his cocky. He's very confident. He's helped

916
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: this draft stock this year. Whether he's lined up against Smith,

917
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: whether he's lined up against Abuca, it's going to be

918
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: a big time matchup which NFL scouts are going to

919
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: keep an eye on.

920
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get in Ohio State Penn State

921
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: National chambiship game.

922
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: What do you think?

923
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: I agree we're gonna have two Big ten teams playing

924
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: for the national title, and which is kind of which

925
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: is kind of interesting because everyone talks about how great

926
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: the SEC is, which it is, but I think they're

927
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: gonna be left out of Nicole the Cup of January twentieth.

928
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: And you know, all we talked about all year is

929
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: this can Ryan Day get over the top against Michigan.

930
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: They fouled, well, go Glasgow, Penn State fan all they

931
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: want to know if James Franklin can get over the

932
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: top against Ohio So we might get a chance to

933
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: find that one out too.

934
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: Yep. And I mean it's good. It's gonna be an

935
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: interesting matchup because the first time Ohio State went into

936
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Speaker 3: Weddn State College and beat Penn State by seven points.

937
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: So the pressure is gonna be up both coaches.

938
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question in those two games. Very wise by

939
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: college football.

940
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if they scheduled this with the NFL

941
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: on purpose, but they're staying away from the NFL playoff

942
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: matchups which will be next not this, So this will

943
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: be the second weekend in January, right Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

944
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: That's the NFL playoffs. The college football playoffs will be

945
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Thursday night and Friday night. So we'll could be back

946
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: with you on draft season early next week, probably Tuesday,

947
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: that's gonna be our interview with Eric Galka, who runs

948
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: the Shrine game. And then the following Monday, I'm guessing Tony,

949
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: we'll probably try to get on review the college football

950
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: playoffs and we should then at some point have some

951
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: more declarations in terms of who's coming out in the draft.

952
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: So all if more news for you then can't wait.

953
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: It should be a lot of fun.

954
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's gonna get good, it's gonna get crazy, is

955
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna get busy.

956
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: No problem, Tony. Happy New Year, my friend. Always a pleasure.

957
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 2: And you can find more of Tony's work on sports Kidding.

958
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: You got mock draft anything coming out that people should

959
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: keep an eye on.

960
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've I've actually been tasked with doing team by

961
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: team mock drafts, so we've done it by division. We've

962
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Speaker 3: gone I go five round deeps five rounds deep every team.

963
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: I believe the NFC East went up yesterday, so Giant

964
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: fans may want to check that one out. Five rounds deep.

965
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: Guys one or two players he gave to the Giants

966
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: in that it was.

967
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: Very offensive in the first and second round. So guys

968
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: who handled the ball, so.

969
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: You know they're a quarterback in there.

970
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: There absolutely is. Now. Granted this was when the Giants

971
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: had the first you know, you got to try and

972
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: keep up. But this was submitted before the Giants had

973
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: their okawhelming victory on the Indianapolis Cults. But I still

974
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: think the Giants the way chicks out will come out

975
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: with the quarterback. So, yes, one was a quarterback at

976
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: the other one was the guy who was a player

977
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: that carries the ball. Uh, we're focused on helping the offense.

978
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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff. Check that out on sports Key

979
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Speaker 2: to Tony. Good stuff.

980
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: My friend always appreciate it.

981
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: Look forward to next week, Jock.

982
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah me too.

983
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Speaker 2: Draft season was brought to you by Moody is a

984
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985
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Speaker 2: minds that turn today's risk into tomorrow's opportunities. Learn more

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Speaker 2: at moodies dot com. For Tony Pauline, I'm John Schmilk.

987
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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week on draft season.