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Welcome back to another edition to Be 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler's back, 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. Well, what is up, boys? 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: And that into hit a little too close to home? 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah cut a little bit um, Mark Sessler, Welcome back. 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Did the Browns come back victory over the Jets, which 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm still salty about. It is the only reason I 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: have yet to read your wonderful or what I'm told 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: long torn long form about the Cleveland Browns and your 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: life long fandom is because I'm not ready to touch 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: the Browns after Thursday. But forget about that. For you 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: that must have been life giving. Is that explain your 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: comeback after the blood clot issue on Sunday? It does 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: explain that they come back. The other is a change 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: in thinking. I think I've told you guys for years 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: that I had something of a fantasy where I hoped 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: I would get her into some sort of low level 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: accident or health issue that would put me into a 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: hospital for months. I could just read books. Uh, you know, 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: just take to put the foot on the brake a little. 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: And I have reversed my thinking. It was quite unenjoyable 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: and I much more enjoy doing this. Do you think 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: the big guy, the guy upstairs, uh was smiting you 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: a little bit there? Might it might have been given 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: me a little preview of my so called wishes and 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: saying you might not know everything. Well, it's good, It's 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: it's great to have you back. Mark. It wasn't the 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: same without you last week and being at full strength 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: and uh, here in Culver City for a Sunday of 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: NFL action. This is what we do best, and what 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: do we do you know what we do, Greg, everybody 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: knows what we do. Sundays we talk about fifteen games, 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: talk about fifteen football games in a row, straight through, 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: with a little bit of help from our friend downstairs, 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Nick Shook, who will be here in a little bit, 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: and we're going to go through the entire schedule of 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: games and close it out with a Sunday night affair 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: between the Detroit Lions and the Millingham Patriots. Uh, anything 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: else we have to get off the books before we 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: get into, uh, the flagship program. I was just gonna say, 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: as it turns out, agonizing pain is not a good 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: way to replace football. No, it is not. But I 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: will say, what look at this cardigan? Is this a 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: cardigan that West is wearing? They call it a cow 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: next sweater? It is some high There's just certain things 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: that's not wearing before he met his current fiance that 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: just have crept into wardrobe and some of them have 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of that preppy look to it. I mean, it's 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: an interesting narrative, and it's surprised though it's not a 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: narrative because we we were given and we'll get into it. 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: One of a future sponsor offered us a chance to 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: purchase some clothing online. And I just went in and 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: ordered a hoodie and an incredible pair of mail underwear. 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: And what did West do? West said, I needed to 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: confer with the paramore before I make my purchase, Like 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: I don't, I just go by this funny West Bristles 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: had a lot of narratives, but this is the one 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: that I'm most surprised that really gets under his skin. 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: That somehow it doesn't really get under my skin. It's 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: just that it's only half true. Like a lot of 71 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the clothing that I've bought, she's getting credit for. But 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: I will concede that my fashion um appears to have 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: increased for the better. It's evolving, Bristle, your narrative. That's 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: a common refrain from West East days. That was a 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: non apology apology. Why am I apologizing? All right, So 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna go through all the game for the Bills game. 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Why don't you? Why don't we start We'll get to 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the Bills game shortly, but why don't we start with 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: a great shootout of Week three? Line and Camara behind Breeze. 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: Breeze gonna try and dive over and he does, and 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that's the ball game. That's it a decisive end the 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: call from w z g C West Durham put that 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: in the list for I mean, the shortlist for a 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: potential call of the year. It would be hard to 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: top it, I know, because Alvin Kamarath they thought he's scored, 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: so it was almost a matter of fact situation. But 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: economy of words, all right, guys, Drew Brees is one 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: yard run captain eighty r touchdown drive to open overtime, 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: lifting the New Orleans Saints to at seven win over 90 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: the Falcons greg This was a classic shootout between two 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: great talents at quarterback, potentially two Hall of famers at 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: least one. Matt Ryan threw five touchdown but the Saints 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: are the team that won that overtime coin toss and 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: they didn't look back. It is remarkable to see one 95 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: of the top quarterbacks in the league and Drew Brees 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: be paired with a top three running back, a top 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: three receiver and just see those three guys dominate together. 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Breeze is so sharp in this game, and sometimes it 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: just comes up down to situations, and the Saints handled 100 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: uh the situation at the end of the first half 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: where they got three points and then at the end 102 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: of the game where they ended up getting one stop 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: on the Falcons better than Atlanta. Otherwise you couldn't find 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: a stop in this game. But there was a third 105 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: down when Atlanta got the ball back with the game 106 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: tied latent regulation, and I think everyone watching the game 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: just figured Atlanta's gonna go down and kick the game 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: winning field goal. Tevin Coleman does not pick up the 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: blitz well, Matt Ryan gets furious at him. He had 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: an open receiver over the middle. And then the Saints 111 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: win the coin toss, and once they won the coin toss, 112 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: it felt like Super Bowl fifty one again, that's the 113 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: right number, right, and where I just was like, there's 114 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: no way the Falcons are getting to stop because the 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: Falcons defense is a mess without Kean Uneo, without Dion Jones. 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: For this game, they were without Tach McKinley, and then 117 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen also suffered a serious injury. There was just 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: no way they were going to stop the Saints. I 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: actually felt that they were a little lucky even to 120 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: be in this game. This happens like somebody I bet 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: against the Saints, you bet they don't do that. Well, Yeah, 122 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: and let's not lock it up. Did not lock it up. Um, 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: this happens at least once a year where I feel 124 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: like it's time for everybody to understand how great Drew 125 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: Brees is. And he did set an NFL record today 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: He now has more completions than anyone and that's a 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: kind of accounting stat, but it's a remarkable stat. And 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: then setting up this game and did a little research, 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Drew Brees has never won an m v P. He 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: might retire with every record in the book. This is 131 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: a forty year old quarterback that went toe to toe 132 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: again with Matt Ryan, who won the MVP a couple 133 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: of years ago. And one I just want to point 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: out one specific play. So he went over the top 135 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: to win the game. Didn't impress the Saint Saints radio network, 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: but I was impressed by that old man jumping over 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: the line like that. But it was the play that 138 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: tied the game. Uh thirty seven thirty Saints are down 139 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: about five and a half minutes to go and Drew 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Brees is in the open field with two Falcons defenders converging, 141 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: does a spin move and gets in the end zone. 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say about it. After the game. 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: At some point I felt like they were coming to 144 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: try to take my head off and I could probably 145 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: spin out of this. And that was just a reaction. Um. 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: But I keep telling my flag football team that like, 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: spin moves are good, and they and then they're not 148 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: getting it. They're not believing me. So I'm glad that 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: happened because now I have video evidence to show them that, hey, 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: spin moves work. Spin moves are good. Drew Brees is 151 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: an obvious first ballot Hall of Famer, um, but this 152 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: isn't baseball. Nobody pays attention to counting stats and football 153 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: for a reason. You can't compare across eras he can't 154 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: compare with the Dome because it's like playing in Coors 155 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Field as a base ball player, it's such a big 156 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: advantage for offensive stats. So Drew Brees doesn't need anyone 157 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: to say he's got these stats. He blongs in the hole. 158 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: He's going to the Hall of Fame regardless, right. He 159 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: and he's always been, unfortunately for him, the kind of 160 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: the third guy. He was the third behind Brady and Manning. 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Now he's kind of been the third behind Brady and Rodgers. 162 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: When people think of the two, but he has been 163 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: so sharp. I really watching this game, even though Matt 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Ryan's numbers are insane and he played well. He had 165 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: three seventy four yards and five touches. I just watched 166 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: it thinking like, Breeze is so much sharper, He's the 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: guy that you want. And then you look at some 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: of the stats for Thomas. Michael Thomas has thirty eight 169 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: catches on forty targets this year. Wow, I feel like 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: we're not talking to mouth about him, even though it's 171 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: he constantly gets highlighted in the statistical packages and stuff. 172 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: You called him a top three receiver. It felt like 173 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: it felt like a miracle. Any time that the Falcons 174 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: defense got the Saints the third down. It was one 175 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: of those games where like if it was an eight 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: yard game, that felt like a win for the Falcons defense. 177 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: And then Alvin Kamara, who we take for granted a 178 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: little bit now too, just because he's been around thirty 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: one touches in this game, a hundred and ninety five 180 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage, I was thinking, they need a little 181 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: more depth, but maybe you don't need that much more. 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Ben Watson did step up for them today and that 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: made it that one quick thing. Seven touchdowns scored in 184 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: the second half and overtime. I come away concerned with 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: both defenses still. I mean especially Atlanta, who's been really, 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, absolutely ravaged right up the middle of their defense. Yeah, 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley was awesome for them, but I think the Falcons, 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: now with two losses to big NFC teams, have to 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: be a little worried because some of these guys aren't 190 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: coming back. Hopefully the Ricardo Allen injury isn't too serious. 191 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Let us move up seven. Mahomes in the pocket, peeling 192 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: away being rushed. Now peels back to his right, trying 193 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to keep the play a lot pump baking fires late, 194 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: It's caught in the back of the end zone. Touchdown, 195 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,479 Speaker 1: Cansas City. Chris Connolly with the catch, but Patrick Mahomes 196 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: with mahomes magic. There you go, Holidays count on him. 197 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: One who on the box and the Chief's radio network superman. 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes finished with three hundred and fourteen yards and 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, including that brilliant scramble in connection with Chris Conley. Uh. 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: In the end, it was another big win for the Chiefs. 201 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Final score thirty eight seven. That's as an NFL record, 202 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: by the way from Mahomes was thirteen touchdowns this season 203 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: in three games, no interceptions. Uh not all the quarterback 204 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: news was a good one, though Jimmy Garoppolo suffered the 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: left knee injury that the team fears as a toorn 206 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: a c l crushing Uh. Tough setback for the Niners 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: and another eye opening performance for the West for the Chiefs. 208 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: West sort of reminds me of the two South two 209 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: thousand seven Patriots in this way, as far as the 210 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: credit being so widely placed, you would hear you would 211 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: watched the two thousand seven Patriots, and some former lineman 212 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: would point out, this doesn't happen unless Brady's got all 213 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: day to throw. And then some would point out West 214 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Welkers redefining this lot position. Someone would say, Josh McDaniels 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: is awesome as a play caller with the Chiefs. You 216 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: have all of these things. Tyreek Hill is in the 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: Randy Moss role. Mahomes is in the Rady roll, Andy 218 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Reid's execution. There's so the Chiefs are facing busted coverage 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: on more plays than any team in the league. There 220 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: are running there are receivers running wide open throughout every 221 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: level of this defense. They haven't even had to establish 222 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: a ground attack in any game this year. He's throwing 223 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown to nine different receivers, which is a veteran 224 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: quarterback type of rapport with your targets. Three three weeks 225 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and the record is it's incredible. And they just have 226 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the vibe because the Chiefs are a team that you 227 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: do expect, through the Andy Reid era, to open strong 228 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of times and then they're gonna give you 229 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: what they give you on the second half of the season, 230 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: but that was with a different quarterback and a lot 231 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: of times with different weapons. This has the vibe of 232 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a fifteen and one team that, well, well, you're you're challenging. 233 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: Their defense might be terrible, but you've got a challenge. 234 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Teams who got to figure out a way to to 235 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: stop this and last one guy or three other guys. 236 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: And last year they did find a way for a 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: while different quarterback. Right now, it feels like the Chiefs 238 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: are lining up with third team players versus you're eleven. 239 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Right the play where Mahomes doubled back a few times 240 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: and then scrambled and kind of three quarter armed through 241 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: the touchdown early in the game. It's like, I don't 242 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: know if any other quarterback in the league and make 243 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: that play. Make certainly make that throw. Maybe Aaron Riders 244 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: can make the throw, but I don't know if he 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: even is nimble enough to get to that point. Uh, 246 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: it's just amazing to watch him. I want to point 247 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: out that he underthrew Tyreek Hill on what could have 248 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: been a long touchdown and overthrew DeMarcus Robinson on what 249 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: could have been a long touchdown. But then they scored 250 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns anyway. They scored off on all five of the 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: first hand positions for the first time in franchise history, 252 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: they scored touchdown and and through the first two weeks 253 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: he had touchdowns that were unscored based on drops and 254 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: stuff too. It's like, honestly, he could have his numbers 255 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: could be even higher. I mean, and then you flip 256 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: side it and the night it's two offseason narratives. One 257 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: where the Chiefs came in off all offseason you thought 258 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: it might be a little bit hot air, even though 259 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you liked the idea of Patrick Mahomes, how much they 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: believed in him. And then it's paying Out and then 261 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: the Niners off season, which was a hype train flying 262 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: out of control, and now you've lost your quarterback, and 263 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the really teams that can complain or the teams that 264 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: lose their starting quarterback because injuries happened everyone and now 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: your season is effectively over. The most frustrating thing about 266 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: it too, man and a torn a c l early 267 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: in the season. It's just terrible and you feel for Garoppolo. 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: James Palmer actually had video in the in the Tunnel 269 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: of Garoppolo being taken in the cart and meeting with 270 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: his family, and you just imagine how how crushing that 271 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: must have been. But it also happened on such an 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: unnecessary play where he's scrambling, gets out of the pocket, 273 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: picks up yardage. He could have stepped out, but instead, 274 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: almost inexplicably, he plants his left leg and tries to 275 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: cut up field to collide with the defender. Wasn't the 276 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: first time in the game he did, then it's one 277 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: he planted that leg that it went and uh, you know, 278 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: it's all part of the learning curve of a quarterback 279 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: and unfortunately for Jermy Garoppolo it's probably gonna cost him 280 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: the season. We don't know for sure, but Kyle Shanahan said, 281 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: the team fears it, uh and usually you could bummer 282 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: because kind of takes the forty nine ers out of 283 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: the teams that you want to watch each week. They're 284 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna be in some primetime games. I was curious to 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: see how this was gonna go, because I think he struggled. 286 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: We talked about that the first couple of weeks. I 287 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: don't know how he looked, you know today, West or 288 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: what your takeaways where, but just to to lose him 289 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: at all, it's like they have no chance without him. 290 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: He didn't play as well as his numbers. He's still 291 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: holding the ball. He was still holding the ball too 292 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: long and doesn't didn't feel like he was trusting what 293 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: he was seeing. But after the Chiefs jumped out to 294 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: a big lead, he's he started to move the offense more. Um, 295 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: But you're right, he it's a small sample size thing, 296 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and I think he's probably gonna be saved by the 297 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: numbers because after three games he's gonna have a ninety 298 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: pass iernian eight eight yards per attempt. The film doesn't 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: look quite that good, but I don't think it's gonna 300 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: be a narrative that he was terrible this year. How 301 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: many C C J. Bethord games are we gonna end 302 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: up watching? Who's their third string quarterback? I should know 303 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: this up top of my head, but this the answer 304 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: would be thirteen. You know, if he stays healthy. His 305 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: name is Nick Mullins. I mean no, but I mean, 306 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: is there a prime time how many howny times you're 307 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to watch this? By the way, there is 308 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I did what immediately did flash in my mind as 309 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: a Jets fan. This was the case of not trading 310 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: teddy Bridge. I was gonna ask you that what would 311 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: have happened then? Could you have gotten He's not a 312 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: one year deal. It's not like you have to suddenly 313 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: have a butting heads at quarterback. It would have He 314 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: could have slid in right perfectly for the Niners. He's 315 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: on Monday Night football two times. They could flex him 316 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: out of his Sunday Night Football. He's on Thursday night 317 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: as well, so that's at least three. But you do have, 318 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, that membership down in the lab, and to 319 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna have to watch some Bethard next game. 320 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: There was a benefit for me here. They pictured al 321 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Albert will sit down, He's gonna call the distance, Albert 322 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Wilson high five on a play call again a gay 323 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: old time. The w q A M Dobbins Radio network 324 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: get nervous, Mercury Morris, the Miami Dobbins cannot stop winning. 325 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Albert Wilson through a fifty two yard touchdown pass on 326 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: a trick play and scored on a an even longer 327 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: touchdown on a catch and run, lifting the Dolphins over 328 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: the windless Nick Shuck is here. He's back, he's jacked, 329 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: he's happy about his Browns. There we go. Shook the 330 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Dolphins three and oh for just the third time in 331 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. And the Pats are on deck. 332 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: You buying in not yet uh one of the weirder 333 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: three and oh starts you. You have to wonder if 334 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: they'd be three and oh if they hadn't faced a 335 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Jets team with Sam Donald, you know, making rookie mistakes 336 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: um here and there, and a Raiders team that cannot 337 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: finish a game. Three weeks now, they well, the Rams 338 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: game they got blown out in the fourth quarter. For 339 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: the last two weeks they have not been able to 340 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: hold onto the leads and finished games on the road. 341 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: And and it's starting to become a point of frustration 342 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: if you're Raiders fan, and and especially in this jet 343 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: comes on the same day they've blown a second half 344 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: lete and all three losses. And in the news this 345 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: morning was that there's some friction and inside the building 346 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: about gruden skuys versus maybe Reggie's guys. I feel like 347 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: we had that news story four or five months ago. 348 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: But that's right, none of this is surprising. But yeah, 349 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: this is oh and three. It's the worst case scenario, choke. Yeah, 350 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of season left. I 351 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: guess next week could get the Browns, so hey, maybe 352 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: the Readers get their first win or maybe not. I 353 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: mean on the Dolphins side though, uh, more of the 354 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: same when they got things going in the second half. 355 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, they hit some struggles early, defensively letting Jordy 356 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: Nelson run wild, which I felt like we were in 357 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: a throwback about four or five years ago. And uh, 358 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: but offensively, you know, Tannehill two stills is still a thing. Uh. 359 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: You know, three connections today for sixty one yards, including 360 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: a thirty four yard touchdown pass, and the real hero 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: of the day was Juchem Grant had a couple of 362 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: touchdown receptions, including a touchdown pass from wide receiver Albert Wilson. Actually, 363 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: they could kind of compete for it because Bert had 364 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: his own touchdown reception later in the game to ice 365 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: it as well. That was the play that the announcers 366 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: are reacting to as if it was like Eddie Murphy 367 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: raw in they were all wearing red leather jumps. Biggest comedies. 368 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Dolphins are such a weird three and no team they 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: deserve credit. Tannehill has avoided mistakes. He's mostly made smart decisions. 370 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: He's had some key runs over the last couple of weeks. 371 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: But this is another game, kind of like the seven 372 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: hour game. That's just it was. It's odd to run 373 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: thirty nine plays compared to seventy four for the Raiders 374 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: and have half as many first downs. But but they 375 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: find a way to win. And Adam Gaze has something 376 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: going on in one score games. He's sixteen and five 377 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: and one score games in his time in Miami. So 378 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: they find a way to win these close ones. I 379 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I thought the Raiders are one of 380 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: the weirdest teams in memory, because all offseason you hear 381 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Jon Gruden telling you this offense will run through Amari Cooper. 382 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: I will turn Amari Cooper into what everyone believes he 383 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: should be. And he's completely shut down by Kaavian Howard today. 384 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: One of the reasons you get Jordy Nelson from half 385 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: a decade ago suddenly making all the plays for a 386 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: team that feels like a shotgun from a cannon from 387 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I don't know what to say 388 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: about this Raiders teams. The thing about I just did. 389 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: The thing about that though, is that went away after 390 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: the early parts. I mean they adjusted and and and 391 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: you know we're able to stop that. But it's a 392 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: clash of the weird because you have the weird raid 393 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: your team, and then you have the Dolphins. You have 394 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: won three weird games in a row. Xavian Howard is 395 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: really good. They have a lot The Dolphins defense has 396 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: a chance to be really good. Robert Quinn looks like 397 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: a totally different player making Fitzpatrick is is good. Kiko 398 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: Alonso seems to turn it on every three years or so, 399 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: and he started this year like on fire. They can 400 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: be their defense. Uh. And the cynic in me and 401 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's just the Jets fan and I don't like 402 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: to say nice things about the Dolphins is they seem 403 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: to be exhibiting all the signs of the team that 404 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: gets out of the gate fast and then fades. But 405 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: I can't can't get to you can't be hard on 406 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: the team. That's three and o. They took care of 407 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: their business and that's it. I think that Dolphins fans 408 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: should note that at least half of the studio is 409 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: bashing them and not believing in them and saying they 410 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: might be frauds. Well, I mean, it's it's it's it's 411 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: a defensive team. That's the way defensive teams usually are. 412 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: They're kind of weird West, what's going on. I don't 413 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: the whole thing with Dolphins fans don't buy them for 414 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: a minute, But I mean, what why kill a team 415 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: that's knocking off bad teams? At least they did their job. Yeah, 416 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: you're three, you know they're they're sitting pretty. Let's move up. 417 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Mariota takes the snap, running himself. He's got the first down, 418 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: the thirty five to the forty to forty five, and 419 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: he's taken down at that is the mice stro Marcus Mariota. Okay, 420 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: the maceetro Marcus Mariota uh Titans radio with the call 421 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: They're Marcus Mariota replaced. They could cussed. Blaine Gabbard led 422 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: three field goal drives enough for the Titans to knock 423 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: off the host Jaguars nine six on Sunday. The Titoons 424 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: have beatning the Jack's three straight times in Mariota. That 425 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: was five wins and seven tries against the defending South champs. 426 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Nick Shook explained the Jaguars to me last week they 427 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: looked super Bowl ready against the Patriots. Today the toilet Bowl. 428 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: The first thing I've written top of my notes in 429 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: all caps, a whole lot of nothing. That's where this 430 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: entire game was offensively for the Jaguars. Blake Bortles would 431 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: find a guy occasionally and he'd drop a pass, and 432 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: then he'd have a guy open and he'd overthrow him. 433 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: And it was just a whole lot of people not 434 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: doing their jobs offensively. And I couldn't figure out throughout 435 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: this game whether this was the Titans defense playing well 436 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: or the Jaguars just not executing. And the only part 437 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: they really executed in for most of the day was 438 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: on the ground game with t J. Yeldon, who was 439 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: fighting through an injury and had to come out for 440 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: for you know, spaces and time in that game, so 441 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't establish anything and the result is six points. 442 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: They tried to fake punt twice, it didn't work. I mean, 443 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: that's the kind of day it was. I feel like 444 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: the football God say, if we're gonna give you Felcon Saints, 445 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: we're also gonna give you Titans Jaguars. You can't have 446 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: you can't have something less than this. You have to 447 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: have a nice little six to three, six to nine 448 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: type games. Saints outgained this game by a d r 449 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: by themselves, by themselves. Yeah, just just them. Yeah, someone 450 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: should point out the Titans owned the Jaguars. Yes, for 451 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they match up well with with a better team. Yeah, 452 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: but can we do that since there's a new coaching 453 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: staff in Tennessee. Who expected Casey's just talking his back 454 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: after every game, which he did after this one, and West, 455 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, was the guy who putting kind of the 456 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: the governor onto the Blake Bortles hype throughout the week 457 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: to saying like that is who Blake Bortles is is 458 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: having one great week and then having the next week 459 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: where I think he was I think he had sixty 460 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: four yards at halftime on eighteen attempts. It doesn't matter 461 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: because this game wasn't on national TV, so it won't 462 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: ever be part of the conversation. I just just say 463 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: this too about Marcus Mariota, like he is. He is 464 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: the franchise still for the Titans right at this point. Yes, 465 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: how is it then that he's not healthy enough to 466 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: start the game but healthy enough to come in? Like, 467 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: if he's ther franchise, he either can play or he can't. 468 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: I would think that he should should not even be 469 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: in this game if you can't grip a football. I 470 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: think the backup plan came into order when Blake Gabbert 471 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: got knocked out because then they still want to win 472 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: the game, and they did end up winning the game, 473 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: but their next best option. It's strange. They're they're saying 474 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: that he can't make it any worse and that it 475 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: hurts his accuracy and some of his you know, velocity, 476 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: that he can't grip it. But it is. It is strange, 477 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: and it's also strange like he's winning these games against 478 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: the Jaguards often with his legs. He rushed for fifty 479 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: one yards today and in a game where that's that 480 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: was kind of the key on this three field goal drives. 481 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: He does have something to these, yeah, But all I'd 482 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: say is everyone listening to this show right now has 483 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: had the moment where you've fallen asleep on your couch 484 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: on your arm and you wake up and you can't 485 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: even feel anything from the shoulder down, Like I don't. 486 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: That's not who I want throwing the football for my team, 487 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: just throwing out there. I feel recalled. This happened to 488 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer a few years ago where he had a 489 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: nerve problem with the throwing arm and he had to 490 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: sit out for a while. I think Mariota as a 491 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: as their franchise quarterback is open and they have two 492 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: years really to decide on his fifth year option. But 493 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I think that's we'll see what's 494 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: slowed onto my astro. That maestro is someone who's flamm 495 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: points or maestro. They're eccentric, they're running the room. This 496 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: guy is one of the more and he's hard working. 497 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: I like him, but he's one of the more bland 498 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: personas in all the league. Maestro is not the listen. 499 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: You go on the road and you shut down the 500 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars and you get a win again. Same thing with 501 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I give you credit, here's your lollipop, but 502 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: don't tell me the Titans are exciting when this again, 503 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: this type of football we've been seeing. Their defense is 504 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: better than people thinking there's something too that the way 505 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: that they've won those two games to put that in 506 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: the bank. Kind of early in the scene, we're talking 507 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: a little Patriots in these crazy in these crazy ways. 508 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: I think that is it's a great foundation, a way 509 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: to kind of start to say you just got to 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: get better at you were comparing them to early Patriots. 511 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I was saying, Mike Rabel as a head coach is 512 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: probably he would probably love to win a game no 513 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: other way than the last two weeks. Shouldn't we be 514 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: given this coaching staff to be going through so many 515 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: tackle and quarterback issues and still winning games. Well, the 516 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: last one didn't get it done. So yes, you guys 517 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: aren't excited by a hunter yourards passing, Oh we are not, generally. 518 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick, great to see you again. Thanks for 519 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: having me. Congrats on your new dynasty in Cleveland. Flying high? 520 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Should Nick and I are holding hands for the sky? 521 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I do like Dan's role is the only American rooting 522 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: against the Browns. Unbelievable the second half of that game. Sorry, Mark, 523 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: but was the first time my heart truly rooted for 524 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: the brown since I've known you. I don't take offense 525 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: to that. I think you had no reason to previously. 526 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: Let's hear from our sponsors a d T. A d 527 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: T can design and install a smart home just for 528 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: you back by protection. 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I mean, one key aspect 543 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: not getting um out by a robber is to be 544 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: at your house at times. Robbers or right, So this 545 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: guy is constantly somewhere else. Friends are coming over with snacks, children, 546 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: soccer game. Just be at your house once in a while. 547 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: I like sneaks, all right. Back to the games. Got 548 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: a man winding up at the text and he's taught 549 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: into the end, don't touchdown it is Jason crewe Wine 550 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: open touchdown Buffalo John Murphy w g R with the call. 551 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: The Bills entered Week three as a seventeen and a 552 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: half point underdog against the Vikings. The Desert Lies. Josh 553 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Allen played like a trusty veteran, accounting for three touchdowns 554 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: in his first road start. The Bill shocked the Vikings 555 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: se to six in Minneapolis. Mark Seler, what the listen, 556 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: That's the perfect way to open this because the thing 557 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: that concerns me the most for the Vikings, outside of 558 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: the fact that you manage fourteen rushing yards and are 559 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: dominated by the Bill's defense all day long, is that 560 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: these games has happened where someone rolls in who shouldn't 561 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: even be in this game, and they get a little 562 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: seventeen and nothing lead like they did off of a 563 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: very bad start for Kirk Cousins with a couple of 564 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: strip sacks short fields for Buffalo, they managed seventeen points 565 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: of it. You still had forty five minutes if you're 566 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings at home, to wind your way out of this, 567 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: and you found no way to do it. This wasn't 568 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: a fluke. This game on its own in the sense 569 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen finally played in a way that we 570 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: hope he used his legs. He did not make killer mistakes. 571 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: He did have an interception that was dropped, but then 572 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in the second half turns around and throws 573 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: a killer pick. They never found their way in this game, 574 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: and now you have a short week. I don't know 575 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: if they were looking past the Bills, because on Thursday 576 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: night you have to deal with the juggernaut that is 577 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. But if you did look past them, 578 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: and there was a moment in this game where Mike 579 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Zimmer was caught by Tracy Wilson of CBS saying, oh 580 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: my god, it's twenty seven to nothing. You were caught 581 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: off guard in this game, and it is a hyper 582 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: concerning footnote in week three. For this Vikings team to 583 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: have this happen there, I think gets extremely troubling loss. 584 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you know I I said it even before 585 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: the scene started, that the Vikings were on my radar 586 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: a little bit as a team. Keep an eye on 587 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: them because everyone had him penciled in to be a 588 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: juggernaut again this year. And maybe they will. Maybe this 589 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: is just a buff in the road. But also there's 590 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: so much pressure on this team to build off last season, 591 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: and to me, this is a loss. I kept on waiting. 592 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to watch this yet, but 593 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I kept on waiting, and so tend nothing. Okay, blipping 594 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: the radar. They'll get back in seventeen nothing, what twenty four? Nothing? 595 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: And then I lose track of the game. We get 596 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: back to its midway through the fourth quarter and they 597 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: still don't have a point, and you just you're wondering, 598 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: how the hell a team that has this much talent 599 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: could be that badly outplayed against such a poor team 600 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: missing with Shawn McCoy, I wish we still had the UM. 601 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: I wish you weren't a liar drop. Because Mike Zimmer 602 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: insisted after the game they did not overlook the bill, 603 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's exactly what happened here. But credit 604 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: to the Bills. My apologies for treating them like a 605 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: laughing stock. And Josh Allen I was I was so 606 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: happy to see him play well because people have written 607 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: him off and he is so talented, so my mind 608 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: is open on him. I just didn't think they had 609 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: enough surrounding town. But their defense must have been a 610 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: buzz allt at it, and we've we've talked about it. 611 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's that much of a difference on 612 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: on one day between professional teams. That's why there hasn't 613 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: been an upset this big according to Vegas and so long. 614 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: It's because there aren't lines that big. Because Jerry Hughes 615 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: is collecting a ten million dollar paycheck and he's a 616 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: professional whichever team he's on, and he happened to have 617 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: one of the most insane days you know, according to 618 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: ESPN stat that anyone's ever had. He had fifteen pressures 619 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the most, is the most since next Gen Stats has 620 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: been keeping that as an official stat right, so he 621 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: goes crazy. Lorenzo Alexander has a monster day. Tremaine Edmonds, 622 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: who has been kind of a had a tough start 623 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: to his career. The first couple of games plays well, 624 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: and we remember that, hey, this Bill's defensive staff did 625 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: pretty well, and that that, to me is almost the 626 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: more surprising part of this equation is that their defense, 627 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: the Bills, that is, who had really he struggled, played 628 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: this well for four Well. I wasn't here last week, 629 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: but it was two weeks ago that you mentioned that 630 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is a guy that does find a way 631 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: to dig out of holes, and he's done it before. 632 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: And what a scenery altering win, because this fell like 633 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: a guy who could have been out of the league. 634 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: And eight weeks if things kept on the way they were, 635 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: they looked at the worst team that we've seen in 636 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: many years, and suddenly this happens. It's a completely unpredictable league. 637 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Just crazy. That's one of the bigger upsets you'll see 638 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: this season, if not the biggest. Unless the Vikings are 639 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: as good as we thought, we shall find out or 640 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: it's or it's just one week. Let's find out. Blacko 641 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: play action, rolls to the right, being chased, he talks, 642 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: he wants to run. Flacko turns a corner. He he's 643 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: got the first down to the twenty five yard line 644 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: and with two thirty six left, he'll play the Hayes 645 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: in the barn. The hey indeed is in the barn. 646 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Of course, that is Jerry Sanduski of w B A 647 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: l uh Lamar who Joe Flacco scrambled to his right 648 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: got where he needed to go first down, locked up 649 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens four win over the Broncos in Baltimore. Flacco 650 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: was efficient, not flashy, and the Ravens defense help case 651 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Keenum and the Broncos under three yards of total offense. UM. 652 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that this was the most memorable game. 653 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: It's not a game that when you gentlemen, fire up 654 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: your game pass accounts are going to it's gonna blow 655 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: your minds. But this is a Ravens win. This is 656 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: what the Ravens do. When the Ravens are right, Uh, 657 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: they get enough from their offense and their defense does 658 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the job. And that's exactly what happened here. Denver, after 659 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good start, just could not get anything going. 660 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean they I think they were up fourteen nothing 661 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: in this game and then had punt after punt after 662 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: punt after punch or they put up fourteen points. Wasn't 663 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: there a punch mixed mixed in there with the punts? Yes, 664 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: there was a punch by super rookie. Uh, Philip Lindsay 665 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: after a case Keenum was stripped by Sorell Suggs, who's 666 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: still making plays at age thirty five. Uh, and there 667 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: was a scramble for four years. I would agree with that. 668 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he's thirty six. That could be wrong, but Philip 669 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Lindsay was in the mid Philip Lindsay in the mix. 670 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: He kind of had a couple of rabbit punches and 671 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: and unfortunately for Mr Lindsay was right in front of 672 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: an official, so he gets disqualified from the game. I 673 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: I know Lindsay has played really well in the first 674 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: two weeks, but I'm not ready to say that was 675 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: going to be the difference in this game. I think 676 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: uh Denver just did not have anything after those initial 677 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: drives and Uh Denver. It should also be noted, uh, 678 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: they're banged up in their secondary Adam Jones suffered a 679 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: thigh injury he left the game. Cornerback Germaine Brock also 680 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: got hurt in this game, injured his groin, So the 681 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: broncos Um come down to earth a little bit, and 682 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens again, they just look I think they're gonna 683 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: be in the mix this year. I think this is 684 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: this to me, looks like a good team. Let me 685 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: ask you one question, because I saw that at the 686 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: end of the third quarter, Denver had more penalty yards 687 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: than passing yards. That keen Um at one point had 688 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: fifty six yards, two passes knocked down, three sacks and 689 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: a fumble before throwing a pick. The one thing about 690 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: case Keenum in week one, in two weeks one and 691 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: two is that he's he's had these turnovers, but he's 692 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: battled back and he's shown no fear of still making 693 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: tight window passes and some of them have worked out. 694 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: What happened today was it more Baltimore's defense because the 695 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: turnaround never happened for him. I think it is what 696 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: it is like like. I think a lot of people 697 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: thought this that Keenum, in a perfect situation last year 698 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: played the best football of his life. But this is 699 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of who case Keenum is. If you lower the 700 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: talent level around him, if you if you ramp up 701 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: the defense as you put him on the road, that 702 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get kind of a hot and cold performance, 703 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: and that's what you got from Keenum on Sunday. I 704 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: don't I think that's fair. You're not saying he's going 705 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: to be a disaster in an awful signing, just that 706 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: he's not going to carry an offense there and he's 707 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna make some mistakes they've had. They used to have 708 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: a difference making defense, obviously, and every year it gets 709 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: slightly worse. And now they're at the point where I 710 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: think you have to wonder is the defense and asset 711 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: or a liability? Are they Are they an average defense? 712 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: And I don't see the the equation for the Broncos 713 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs or be good if they're average 714 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: or below average, even they need the defense to be better. 715 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of it up West Is 716 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: on Fire early on. I liked your move here too, 717 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: because you took the Broncos the first two weeks of 718 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: the season. Right. Yeah, I'm having like a Miami Dolphins 719 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: level September here. You got a little Mercury remorse thing 720 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: going on right now. You're one, Oh, okays the records 721 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: the record, So you didn't mean seventeen and three and three, 722 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna turn into like a seven hour game in 723 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: the hottest game against the Titans in history, and then 724 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: squeaked by the Jets, squeaked by the Raiders. We're all job, 725 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: You're doing a nice job so far West you're three 726 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: and oh in the locks which leads the way, and 727 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: I believe a t N lock it up. The Twitter 728 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: handle said you were the first member of our team 729 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: to ever start to a season. So that's that's ominous. 730 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: It usually does turn around in the in the like 731 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: you know, vaunted three year history too. Year even did 732 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: we start, do not diminish the contest year. It's the 733 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: first time we did it from week one on though 734 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: we're in at least the third year. The second I 735 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't win and you're not winning this year. I know 736 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: Winter is coming was two years ago, right, but we 737 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: didn't start the season. That trophy was handed out for 738 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: the first time at Super Bowl and Erica tampose the 739 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: loose cannon behind the glass. Hey guys, how are you good? 740 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: How are you good? Remember we will need a trophy 741 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: to be handled out after Super Bowl fifty three as well, 742 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: of course, this time to one person, and I'm talking 743 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: to you right now and I would say budget, I 744 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: don't know a million dollars. Let's get Let's get the 745 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: two eighty three diamonds Robert Kraft style on this sucker. 746 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 1: Let's move on. The flip goes back left side called 747 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Anderson Wick blockers twenty to the timide alice court all 748 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: the way down w C k Y, Dan Horde, Dave Lapham. 749 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: How about that? There you go. Cam Newton through for 750 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, ran for two more. Christian McCaffrey racked up 751 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: a career high a hundred and eighty four yards on 752 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: the ground, and the Carolina Panthers took care of the Bengals, 753 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: gave them their first loss of the season at thirty one. 754 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: Victory for Carolina, Mark Sessler. Is it true? Is it 755 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: really true? Inquiring minds want to know. Inquiring minds, I no, No. 756 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey run between the tackle. I I spotted that today. 757 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: He did that effectively, And that trope, if that's a question, 758 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: slash trope has been answered. He looked the part today. Finally, Well, 759 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: the tackles never crossed a hundred yards on the ground 760 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: my career. I just now looked at the box score 761 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: and my eyes popped out of my head. I was 762 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: not expecting to see a four for Christian McCay really 763 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: wrote him he would hit. The offense went right through 764 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: him today and this was a bit of a white 765 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: knuckle affairs, one of those games where you're in the 766 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: third quarter and when we're writing these things up, I'm like, 767 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: I have no concept of what to write about in 768 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: this game because it's sort of so blase. But then 769 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: it took shape because what happened I thought was that 770 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: the the Bengals, whose offense I still believe in, they 771 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: were without Joe Mixon today and A. J. Green left 772 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: with a groin injury in the early in the second half, 773 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: and they really were limited at that point what they 774 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: could do. And you look at Dalton, he had four 775 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: picks and you can say utter disaster. Two of them 776 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: were late game sort of heaves that we're not really 777 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: part of what happened earlier on. He had some nice 778 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: drives to but the problem with the Bengals is they 779 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: were basically, I thought, overpowered down the stretch by a newcomer, 780 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: two of them in Carolina f the Obata jerryan born 781 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: London sourced Nigeria Nightmare two point I will tell you something. 782 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: This guy was a house on fire. He generated a 783 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: strip sack that went back into the Bengals possession after review, 784 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: but then caught an interception that went through a pile 785 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: of people, and then a late game sack that detonated 786 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Really put this game out of hand. And 787 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: then you've got Dante Jackson, the rookie cornerback who has 788 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: three picks in two of in two weeks, two of 789 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: them coming today, and those turnovers ultimately undid the Bengals, 790 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: who when you get Andy Dalton, he's going to turn 791 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: the ball over four times when I'd say two of 792 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: them were genuinely meaningful. That changed this game because the 793 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: Panthers just had too much going on with Kat McCafferty. 794 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: And then Cam Newton, who looks I think to me, 795 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: slimmer and faster and more spry than he has in 796 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: a while. Credit to Henry Hodgson, who was out there 797 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: personally bird dogging, scouting f throughout his college career and 798 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: through London. It's an amazing journey. If you don't know 799 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: his backstory, it's for this Angeles and I think he's 800 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: been you know, within the NFL since and this was 801 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: his first game. It's called the Internet player pathway up 802 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: the path that he took in bankrolls in himself, right. 803 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pretty incredible thing that this is 804 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: his first snaps he ever got, just nineteen snaps in 805 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: this game, and he ends up making that crazy of 806 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: an impact. Maybe little game ball action. I'm saying he 807 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: should have probably did get he earned it. He It 808 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: was kind of incredible to watch him just make that 809 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: he I think he even on the sideline. They should 810 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: cut to him a couple of times. He was laughing wildly. 811 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: I think he had. He was probably surprised by what 812 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: was happening the Panthers and North Turner deserves some credit. 813 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned that, let's get this running game 814 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: going on the last show. They do lead the league 815 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: in yards per carry before this game, and that's largely 816 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: because of Cam Newton. But Cam Newton is a part 817 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: of their running attack, and so they are kind of 818 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: getting back to the what Ron Rivera wants. Especially with this. 819 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 1: It also left me a little concerned about Cincinnati's front seven, 820 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: which I think is a good front seven, but then 821 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: they got slashed the way they did today. It was 822 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: not what you want out of out of that defense. Well, 823 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned the NFL Pathway program. Is it time to 824 00:39:48,040 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: check in? And now another edition keeping up anybody have it? 825 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot on that player that we're 826 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: all right, we don't we actually don't have we got nothing. 827 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: And that was keeping up with boring. That was another 828 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: additional keeping up with anything else from this game. You 829 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: were like a one man good bad cup. It was 830 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: like literally after maybe the nicest moment in the NFL 831 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: international player history, and then you just had to take 832 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: it down. I got one now and you you've paid 833 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: it like that. There were at least like four or 834 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: five weeks per season where I think Ron Rivera is 835 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: one of the most underrated coaches in the league. Give 836 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: him some boat. He's been there for a long time 837 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: and they're usually in the playoffs. By the way, Obada 838 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: did get the game ball and his uh, his teammates 839 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: seemed to be loving it just as much. Look at 840 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: that indicated and you just fought. Let's move on, calls 841 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: out the signals, takes the snap box to throw steps 842 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: off fire. So the NZO touchdown Giants Starling Shepherd, Bompa, 843 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: Papa Papa w F a n with the call. Eli 844 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: mannic through two seven yards and two touchdowns, and se 845 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley added a touchdown of his own as the 846 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Stream got their first win of the season, conquest over 847 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: the windless Houston Texans. Greg Rose with all the Giants 848 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: were in naptown offense in the first two weeks. What 849 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: changed here? They had a great game plan Eli man 850 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: and got the ball up quickly, especially to Odell Beckham 851 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepherd. Not a lot deep down the field, 852 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: but at least in stride gave them a place chance 853 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: to make plays after the catch. But what really struck 854 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: me was a third and one play late in the 855 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter where the Giants had gone about four or 856 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: five street drives where they hadn't done anything. They looked 857 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: like they did a week ago again, and you have 858 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley lined up as a wide receiver in 859 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: an empty set on third and one. And that's the 860 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: matchup that Eli Manning chooses to go to is sae 861 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley on a linebacker way out wide. Barkley beats 862 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: him easy, gets the first down. They wind up scoring 863 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: the touchdown that puts the game away. And I just 864 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: thought like last year's Giants aren't doing that. And for 865 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: one week at least, Giants fans got to see a 866 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: different vision of the Giants that would be a lot 867 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: more fun to watch. And the afterglow of this event, 868 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: are you finally ready to put Eli Manning where he 869 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: belongs in Canton? Well, he has to wait five years 870 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: after his career is over to do that. He did 871 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: beat the two thousand eighteen Texans, right like, just like 872 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: the type of Barkley took too much criticism last week. 873 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought he made the first guy miss almost every time, 874 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: and he looks solid in this game. It was a 875 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: lot more four or five yard runs, which I think 876 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: the Giants will be really happy to see rather than 877 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of short ones in that big place. 878 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: And just like we're saying I was saying with Eli 879 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: last week, he played poorly the first two weeks, but 880 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: that offensive line was so not even competitive. I thought 881 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: for stretches of the first two games, Eric Flower has 882 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: got himself benched in this game. It sounds I mean, 883 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't it sounds of it maybe well before the game. Yeah, 884 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: before the game he got bench for Chad Wheeler. I 885 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: believe in JJ want to make that move when you can. 886 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: J J. Watt came in and just destroyed wheels, used 887 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: them throughout the game. Mary Flowers, maybe we'll be back 888 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: in next week, which made made our our buddy Chris 889 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: Westling looks smart who has been honking about J. J. 890 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: Watts about to go on a sack street And all 891 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: he did was get three sacks and tackle four tackles 892 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: for loss. I think in this game of forced fumble 893 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: he had a monster game, but it wasn't enough. Well, 894 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: thanks to the mind of Dan hanss Our hot takes 895 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: are accountable now. Oh we accountable hot takes every Tuesday 896 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL Twitter show. New one coming 897 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 1: up on UH four thirty Eastern, one thirty Pacific on Twitter. Yes, 898 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: west has an accountable hot take that involves J. J. 899 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: Watt going nuts over the next month. But this is 900 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: you know what we talked about all summer Texans were 901 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: a boom or bus team and it is bust oh three, 902 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: there's no coming back. History tells us from oh and 903 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: three and then and and Deshaun Watson's a part of it. 904 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: Uh Greg, I was seeing a lot of tweets out there. 905 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: He was struggling again at least early on, early on especially, 906 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: and this has been a pattern where he in Week 907 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: one that this was the case, and then in this 908 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: game as well, where the only plays they were making 909 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: where if he was just back behind the offensive line 910 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: for seven seconds kind of improvising. There was very little 911 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: on schedule. He just wasn't very accurate, but the running 912 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: game was really killed them. Lamar Miller at ten carries 913 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: for ten yards. I feel like last year we knew 914 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: that line was not good, but somehow Deshaun Watson spun 915 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: magic and was able to get away from pressure and 916 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: make these incredible plays against teams that had no tape 917 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: on and perhaps but the line now, from what little 918 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing of the Texans this week in the last 919 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, the line is going to doom them. It's 920 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: hurt them. I don't know if that was it today, 921 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: but to your point, they were running all sorts of creative, 922 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: crazy stuff last year with Deshaun Watson. Everyone remembers that, right, 923 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: and this year you kind of just look at them 924 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: and they're running a regular NFL offense and it's not 925 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: the same Bill O'Brien's but might be getting hot soon. 926 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: Little warm There were expectations in that town and they 927 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: are not just an extension. Yeah, he just he signed 928 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: later than any coach in the NFL except for Grood, 929 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: and he just made the power move where he got 930 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: his own GM sign too. Is it You would think 931 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: you would think you'd be okay, but you gotta win 932 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: some games they've been That's what it's about, Mark, That's 933 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: what it's about. That's that is the structure here. That's 934 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: the old in the National Football League is do you 935 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: win football game? You are what your record says you. 936 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: Suddenly we're winning games in Central Queens. But that's uh, 937 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: that's a separate issue, not about how many lollipops you 938 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: can collect. Let's move on play action fate. He's got time. 939 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: He's floating it down the middle looking for Richardson at 940 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: the end, goes down at the end of the touchdown, 941 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: water passing catcher and Richardson what thought at the one 942 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: had rolled over over the end zone for the score. 943 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: Larry Michael w t E M with the call. Adrian 944 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: Peterson ran for a hundred and twenty yards and a 945 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: pair of two yard touchdowns. Al Smith throw two touchdown passes, 946 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: including that dime. He just heard to Paul Richardson and 947 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins held on seventeen a victory over Aaron 948 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers and gentleman, this game, uh, 949 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 1: featured a Packers team that I did not like watching 950 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: very much. I did not like watching Aaron Rodgers on 951 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: a bad knee that's not getting better and a bad 952 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: hamstring out there looking like he's nineteen Jo Nameth. He 953 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: just couldn't move, and I mean it was bad. And 954 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: that's what's worth what's kind of sneaky great about Rogers 955 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: and what's been what's makes him so special. It's not 956 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: just his accuracy and his arm strength and the swagger, 957 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: which is all, you know, top of the list, but 958 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: also his maneuverability and how easily he moves in and 959 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: out of traffic, and how he could pick up yardage 960 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: with his legs and create time and that stuff. He's 961 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: still able to do on some level, but it's becoming 962 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: more and more compromised the more his body gets beat up. Uh. 963 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: And are you saying they should see him? No, I 964 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far. Although let's see how bad is 965 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: his hamstring. He just wasn't moving well. I think he 966 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: gives them a better chance to win even in this 967 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: state than to Shaun Kaiser. So the answer would be no. 968 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: But uh, the other problem is when Rogers is not 969 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: you need the guys around him to step up. And 970 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: this was a really poor performance by his skill position 971 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: players around him. I'll single out um two guys. Tight 972 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: End Lance Kendricks had a killer, terrible, pathetic drop on 973 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: a beautiful dime pass uh from Rogers that he put 974 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: right on the money. Would have been about a forty 975 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: yard game. This is right when the Packers are trying 976 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: to get some momentum going. They're playing from behind in 977 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: this whole game, and Kendricks kind of looks it into 978 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: his hands and never has a good grip on it 979 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: and drops it. And then Randall Cobb, who used to 980 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: be a rising star in this league, and you know 981 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: he was out on the trade market reportedly over the 982 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: summer again and was not helping the team in this game. 983 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: He had a he had a drop, he had a fumble. Uh. 984 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: Just not a guy that's making plays. Another relatively quiet 985 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: game for Jimmy Graham. Davante Adams did some nice things. 986 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: Geronimo Allison had a nice deep ball, uh touchdown. But 987 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: other than that, this the skill players let Rogers down. Uh, 988 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: so they're kind of in a weird spot right now. 989 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: Cobb with four catches off eleven targets, I know there 990 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: were drops in there, like you said, yeah, the Adrian 991 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: Peterson highlights, and it looked like two thousand twelve Adrian Peterson. 992 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: He looks awesome. There was one place jump cuts where 993 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: really expected. There was one jump cut where it really 994 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: did look like two thousand twelve Peterson where he did 995 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: a jump cut, got to the outside of then what 996 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: up the sideline for about thirty yards. He was at 997 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: eighty five yards midway through the second quarter. He slowed 998 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: down a little bit in the second half, but still 999 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: went for one. Twenty One of the touchdowns should not 1000 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: have counted, but the referees got it wrong on the 1001 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: field and there was such a dog pile that you 1002 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: couldn't even overturn it. But West, you're right, just like 1003 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: you were right when you called it before the season started. 1004 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Peterson as a major asset for this team and they're 1005 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: leaning hard on him. They leaned on him to close 1006 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: out the game, which he helped do. Uh, And this 1007 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: is just another Also good game for Alex Smith, who 1008 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: was just so splendidly consistent in his goodness. Never greatness, 1009 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: but just goodness. He moves the team, he gets he 1010 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: gets the ball in the right people's hands, so I 1011 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: only have to throw the ball twenty times, which is 1012 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: per if you're Ja grud and you're you're loving that, 1013 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: and the Redskins are reminded it's so early. All these 1014 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: teams are just forming and we're trying to figure out 1015 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: The Redskins basically had perfect week one Week three in 1016 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: a disastrous week too. Yeah. Week two is the week 1017 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: that I decided to lock up this team in the 1018 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: sandwich to awesome games on an utter dut against the 1019 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: You're looking for things that will last in Peterson. That's 1020 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: something they have to be really excited about. And then 1021 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen that kids a ball playerff. I mean, now, 1022 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: two more, two more sacks today and that's something, Okay, 1023 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: we got. We got a real difference maker in the 1024 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: middle of their line. And finally, almost impossibly, we're gonna 1025 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: have to talk about this again, Clay Matthews breaks through 1026 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: the line, uh makes a bee line for the quarterback, 1027 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: goes shoulder to the side hits him right center, square 1028 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: in the chest, kind of goes down hard because that's 1029 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: what happened. Happens when professional athletes collide at a high 1030 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: rate of speed and then raises his hands even as 1031 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: he's coming off. Alex Smith just ensure he doesn't get 1032 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: a flag, even exaggerates it. I did not try to 1033 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 1: Here comes the flag and again, and this is infuriating. 1034 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: The NFL makes the unusual step to reach out to 1035 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: the broadcast to immediately back the officials call, saying he 1036 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: put all or some of his body weight onto the quarterback. 1037 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: So that was a good call that we back, which 1038 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: is bologny. Bad job by the NFL, and look at 1039 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: uh the way to Twitter reacts and the bad vibes 1040 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: that that this is creating. Here's what Clay Matthews had 1041 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: to say after the latest issue unfortunately leads going in 1042 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: the direction I think a lot of people don't like um, 1043 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're getting soft and you know, 1044 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: the only thing hard about this league or is a 1045 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: fine that they leave you down like me to play 1046 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: the game wargs. I have to give Clay Matthews credit. 1047 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: He actually restrained himself where I think a lot of 1048 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: people would go nuts in that situation. Mike McCarthy did 1049 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: almost get kicked out. I tweeted that I thought he 1050 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: was like a man trapped in a cop Ca novel 1051 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: at this point, because two weeks in a row in 1052 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 1: this in these questionable environment, this one today he even 1053 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: went up to Alex Smith and said, I'm sorry, what 1054 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: else could I have possibly done? There? The soft argument 1055 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: is going to go nowhere. And this is all corners 1056 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: of the country are criticized in the NFL for being soft, 1057 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: for trying to take hitting out of the game. Stop. 1058 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: It's never gonna go anywhere. They're trying to make the 1059 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: game as safe as possible. That that argument is going 1060 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: to be left behind. It's never gonna work. Take the 1061 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: argument that the role is confusing and it piss defensive 1062 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: players in a bad spot. You have to know what 1063 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: you're allowed to an impossible spot. Yeah, I think that's 1064 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's not the soft thing that that 1065 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: all the defenders wait on the quarterback rule. It's funny 1066 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: how that slips so much under the radar compared to 1067 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 1: the helmet rule in the pre season. That's the source 1068 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: of all of these problems. Really, the time where they're 1069 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: roughing the passer and they're hitting the helmet, and generally 1070 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: I agree with all of those calls. This seems like 1071 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: an impossible rule to do. It isn't if we're going 1072 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: for safety when they teach you how to tackle when 1073 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: you're young, like what this hit today on Alex Smith 1074 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: was not a dangerous hit? So what so something's lost here? 1075 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: In translations? Did they run pain, pick up Rodgers and 1076 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: body slam him in this game and not get a 1077 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: penalty called. That's the thing that happens a couple of times. 1078 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: You can pick out four or five times that happened 1079 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,280 Speaker 1: throughout the week that doesn't get called in theay. Matthews 1080 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: actually sought out Alex Smith after the game and asked, Hey, 1081 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: did that seem bad to you? Because he's as lost 1082 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: as everyone else. Well, you're having quarterbacks now and it's 1083 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: happened last week or it's gonna happen again, coming out 1084 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: almost in defense of the players tackling them, saying we 1085 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: we agree with you, and I will say this just 1086 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: so everyone knows that that that in this case last week, 1087 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 1: the bad call against um claim Matthews cost the Packers 1088 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: to win. In this case, it didn't affect the outcome. 1089 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: It led to a punt anyway, but still terrible job. 1090 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: Let's hear from our sponsors. Oh yeah. 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And that's the ball game. 1126 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: W I p Merrill Reese with the call. Carson wentz 1127 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: through a touchdown pass uh his first drive in nine months. 1128 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: Wendel Smallwood run in n a from the four yard 1129 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: line to put the Eagles ahead for good, and they 1130 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: won twenty to sixteen over the Colts. The Eagles needed 1131 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: to come from behind in this one, surviving a final 1132 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: hail Marry Attempa as you heard it, Jacobe Bissett. Uh. 1133 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: They moved to two and one on the season. West 1134 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: What was Wentz's rust level on this week? He came 1135 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: out and had an impressive first drive. UM, I think 1136 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: twelve plays about seventy five yards let him on a 1137 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: touchdown drive showed escapability. Um, you know how Carson wentzay 1138 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: is He's gonna run into some sacks because he keeps 1139 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,760 Speaker 1: plays alive, and he's gonna get out of some sacks 1140 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: because he has that who DENI like escapability. He showed 1141 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: all that for the middle part of the game, second third, 1142 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth quarters to defense, the offense got 1143 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: shut down. Uh. He came through aided by some Colts penalties. 1144 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 1: One that was especially a head scratcher on jabal shirt 1145 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: cheered defensive holding at the line of scrimmage that helped 1146 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: him convert a third down and get into the end 1147 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: zone to take the lead. Late in the game, sort 1148 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: of a mixed bat for for Carson Wentz for Andrew Luck. 1149 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: We've commented that he's looked better, I think, on tape 1150 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: than his five point nine yards per tempt through two 1151 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: weeks probably indicated, but how did he look today? The 1152 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: numbers are even worse four yards per attempt, career low 1153 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: four yards per attempt. And I think if you entered 1154 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 1: this game and you thought, okay, he's got the lowest 1155 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: depth of target in the league, which means he's not 1156 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: passing deep at all. Because it's good coaching, their left 1157 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: tackles out, their skill petition, skill position talent isn't very good. 1158 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: They have no running game, get the ball out quickly, 1159 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: and then on the final here's the facts. In this game, 1160 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: he's got a less than a hundred yards. Late in 1161 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: the game, like middle of the fourth quarter, he doesn't 1162 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: even have a hundred yards. Their best play is Luck 1163 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: throwing it a rainbow, and then t Y Hilton getting 1164 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: defensive pass interference, which happened a couple of a couple 1165 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: of times in this game, and then down the stretch. 1166 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: It's weird how narratives go, because if t Y Hilton 1167 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: locates a faith pass and they take the lead. We 1168 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 1: never see the final desperation drive when he's checking down 1169 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: the whole time, never trying to threaten down the field, 1170 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: He's just checking down. They get the midfield, almost midfield, 1171 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: they bring in Jacoby precent for the hail Mary, and 1172 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: everyone's wondering what's wrong with Andrew Luck's arm. I think 1173 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: it to me, that's a sure sign that Raich is 1174 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: admitting Andrew Luck's arm isn't where it needs to be. 1175 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's not Chad Pennington. Maybe he's still working 1176 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: back to get that arm strength. But no other no 1177 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league gets pulled in this situation. 1178 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not concerned about here, Chuck what he 1179 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: said about this. Jacoby has a stronger arm than I do. 1180 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's it's sort of what I see in practice. 1181 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: And you can ask, you know, the coach I was. 1182 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: I think the coach obviously thinks that as well. Uh, 1183 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: And I'll keep working on getting my arm to where, 1184 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 1: you know where, Maybe it can't hit an eight yard 1185 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: throw throw from the minus thirty, but no, I think 1186 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: it was you know, no qualms with with that decision. 1187 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: I'll say this as much as that Hail Mary. What 1188 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: bothered me was the plays before that. There are forty 1189 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: three seconds left. He could have worked down for he 1190 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: could have worked down to get the ball down the field, 1191 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: and instead he was just taking easy check downs for 1192 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: four or five yards. No desire, what's whatsoever to test 1193 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles down the field. I mean, it can't be 1194 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: concerned at all about his durability or status and physically 1195 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: right now. He threw the ball fifty three yards in 1196 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: the opener thirty one last week, forty today. They are 1197 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: a very weird offense. Don't have a running back across 1198 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: nineteen yards today, and they don't have a receiver go 1199 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: for more than fifty. It's just seems like Reich is 1200 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: having to work with what he has with Andrew Luck 1201 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: and the surrounding cast right now. And we've thought that 1202 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: they've been scrappy, and they were scrappy. They had a 1203 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: lead in Philadelphia in the fourth quarter, and yet you 1204 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: come out of this game. I think if you're an 1205 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: Eagles fan, you feel pretty great that you only gave 1206 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: up two nine yards the defenses around the end of 1207 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: shape and you have Carson Wentz back and your two 1208 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: and one, like you got through this about Darius Leonard. 1209 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard and Marcus Hunt both extremely impressive again this week. 1210 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Battle of Los Angeles. This 1211 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: well protected, it breaks down, he wants to run now, 1212 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: throws right side Cooper Cup, thirty gets through uh j 1213 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: B Long Jaunty and that was m j D with 1214 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: oh wow KSPN with the call. Jared cop threw for 1215 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: three fifty four and three touchdowns, including that connection with 1216 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, leading the Rams to three win over the Chargers, 1217 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: who simply could not keep up with the best offense 1218 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: in the NFC. Greg typical Bolts game for me. They 1219 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: move the ball on offense, make place to stay in 1220 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: the game, but they make some mistakes also, and you 1221 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: can't do that against the Rams. And they're building now. 1222 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: They were playing the best overall team in the league 1223 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 1: right now, and and the Rams are just so hard 1224 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: to stop that every possession that they don't score a 1225 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: touchdown feels like such a win for the defense. If 1226 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: it's such a surprise, and I'm really surprised that this 1227 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: was the week where the conversation, for whatever reason became 1228 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: is Jared Goff a system quarterback or is he something else? 1229 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: For some reason that was on every show, But why 1230 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: this week because he's coming off the best three game 1231 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: stretch maybe of his career. He looks awesome. This was 1232 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: one of the best games of his career. He had 1233 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: one interception, which you know he'd like to get back, 1234 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: but other than that, he's been playing great over the 1235 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, especially today, fitting the ball into 1236 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: tight windows. Him and Robert Woods have such a great 1237 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: connection and Brandon Cooks has rounded out this offense that 1238 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: they are just so tough to stop that they line 1239 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: up with the same personnel every freaking snap all season basically, 1240 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: but they do it in such different ways that no 1241 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: one has any idea how to stop it. Yeah, until 1242 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: it changes. I'm gonna enter every week assuming that the 1243 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Rams have an unfair advantage due to Sean mcveigh's beautiful 1244 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: mind right in continuity in players like the top two 1245 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: rated tackles in in football this week in terms of 1246 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: past protection where the Rams to tackles according to Pro 1247 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Football Focus. So you can't run on this team. That's 1248 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: the that's the ideas that you should be able to. 1249 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: But when you really look at it's Brock, Sue and 1250 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Donald next to each other, and it's hard to find 1251 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: a weakness unless a keep to leave and Marcus Peters 1252 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: are both seriously hurt. They both left this game, Peters 1253 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: with a caffe injury, to leave with an ankle, and 1254 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: so that that's gotta be uh making Vikings fans feel 1255 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: a little better. That's a short week. I I'm annoyed 1256 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: by the golf narrative because the team itself and I 1257 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: feel like they're really on. McVeigh is really honest about 1258 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: where the offense is. He does maybe give everyone credit 1259 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: and not himself, but they talked about golf becoming an 1260 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: extension of the coaching staff. I feel like he's someone 1261 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: that's grown and made leaps and bounds from last year, 1262 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: and he's a warning to any team that has a 1263 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: young quarterback and doesn't want to surround them with the 1264 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: best possible offensive coaches, which some teams seem to not do. Meanwhile, 1265 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, I am sorry. I cannot at this 1266 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: point sit through many more weeks of this. I have 1267 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Chargers exhaustion. It is every week I can't listen. I 1268 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: get that it's the MS this week, so fair enough, 1269 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: it is the same game over and over. They need 1270 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa back, and they also locked this one up. 1271 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Needed that w moved to one and two. But they 1272 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: really they need Joey Bosa back, and they just got 1273 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: to clean it up on a special team. Guess they 1274 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: missed an extra point and uh, they also get a 1275 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: punt blocked in the ends when Dennal and James had 1276 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: a great red zone interception and then foolishly try to 1277 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: run it out and got forced out at the one 1278 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: yard line which led to two runs that almost ended 1279 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: into safety and then a block punt. So, uh, they 1280 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: just make those mistakes and they just they were outclassed. 1281 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean McVeigh is not the only difference making coach 1282 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: on this team. Wade Phillips obviously is as well. And 1283 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: then John Fossil is a monster advantage. I mean, you 1284 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: you come up with a block punt, you you find 1285 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: this return guy what was his name last week, joo 1286 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Jojo Natson, who looks like the second coming of you know, 1287 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Eric Metcal and he was their backup that because they're 1288 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 1: replacing another Pro Bowl return of Farrell Cooper. It's like, 1289 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, if I don't know if Fossil does 1290 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: someone to just hire him to be their head coach 1291 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: because at least you get his special How about this 1292 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 1: for a hot take. You could replace John Fossil with 1293 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: former correspondent John Stossel and you'd still make the Charger 1294 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: special teams look bad. Just put Stossel in there for 1295 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: the Rams and he'd scheme away to take advantage of 1296 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. The NFL in the right there, in the 1297 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: interest of helping the Los Angeles market, should give John 1298 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Fossil to the Charger John Fossil where he is so 1299 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 1: he can do what he does best. Chargers, figure on 1300 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: your own issues out. It is exhausting to watch the 1301 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: team right now, the hired John Stossel. That's an answer. 1302 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Next shot snap, they come after Rosa back to throw 1303 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 1: fires the right side. It is intercepted at the forty 1304 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 1: two yard line. That was an easy quick in front 1305 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: of Christen kirk Hi Gryce Callahan with a one time 1306 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,959 Speaker 1: to go in the game. The Bears take over leading 1307 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen. That's a disappointment from Dave Pashup Katie a r. 1308 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen replaced a battered in an ineffect of Sam Bradford, 1309 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,439 Speaker 1: but he wasn't enough to spark the Cardinals, who fell 1310 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: to oh and three after a sixteen fourteen loss of 1311 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh Chicago was down fourteen zip in the 1312 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: second half, but Mitch Drabinski let a touchdown drive two 1313 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: field goal drives as well to pull it out. Mark Selser, 1314 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the Bears, of course, are the team around the NFL, 1315 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: But you were grumbling throughout the afternoon about their quarterback. Well, 1316 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: I think the team's quarterback is Khalil Mack, who once 1317 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: again was the most dominant player on on the team. Well, 1318 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: it is an interesting strategy. I don't know where they'd 1319 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: be without him right now. You mean like figuratively, figuratively, 1320 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: not literally, you know, he did not he did not 1321 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: come in on offense. I They're just tough for me 1322 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: to watch. I really enjoy the fact that there. I 1323 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: think for Bears fans number one, you're two and one, 1324 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: you're probably like, shut up right now. We haven't been 1325 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: too in one in a thousand years. We'll take it. 1326 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Will march on. This was a white knuckle affair. It was, 1327 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, two teams trying to figure each other out. 1328 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: But the Bears offense, to me, it's like you're going, 1329 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: You're We're going to see this game over and over. 1330 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: It is a very talented stack defense that probably in 1331 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: the locker room has to be asking themselves, what on 1332 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: earth do we need to do more than one of 1333 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: these defenses to get our offense to complement us. And 1334 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: it's it I just wonder, and it's it is too 1335 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: early to say. And I got killed before the season 1336 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: for sharing my concerns. Well, no, it was like, at 1337 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: that's just not a fair question. It's like, listen, I 1338 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: just all right, well, I am now legit concerned because 1339 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: I just wonder if he is a no, because it's 1340 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 1: like it is is he a breakout I just wonder 1341 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: if he's a breakout proof quarterback because I'm just watching 1342 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 1: someone who has accuracy issues that show up over and 1343 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: over in the game. I love him when he's mobile 1344 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 1: and he's running, but that cannot be what Mitch Robinsky 1345 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: offers you a quarterback. It's really concerned at this point. 1346 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: And I think they like they've got nice parts around 1347 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 1: him to some degree. I totally believe in the coaching staff. 1348 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: But you're everyone who wanted to think you're gonna get 1349 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff Part two, Well, you don't 1350 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: have that, and that's not happening in the in the 1351 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: next month. And what happened this season? What did happen 1352 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: in the offseason? Mark, you were you were saying, should 1353 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: we be nervous about your binski? And what I think 1354 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the room said was maybe it's not 1355 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: gonna be Jared goff uh Sean McVey part two. But 1356 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: he was being coached by John Fox and Friends. Last year, 1357 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: it was you gotta like John Fox and Friends. That's 1358 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. He always had to throw it out. But 1359 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: now that we have a little bit more data, with 1360 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: a new staff and an offensive minded head coach who 1361 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: was really well thought of. Now I think it's fair 1362 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,959 Speaker 1: if you're a Best Bears fan and it's still early, 1363 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: but to be a little bit nervous about your bisky 1364 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: and whether he can hack it for a team that's 1365 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: looking to compete for the playoffs. Yeah, I think what 1366 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I've noticed in the first two weeks was his footwork 1367 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: is an issue, especially on ormedia and deep throws. And 1368 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, when he's on the run, that's when 1369 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback, But what about in the pocket 1370 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: like that? That's all fine, But they were down fourteen 1371 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: nothing on the road and they won the game. And 1372 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: like Bears have not had many seasons where you could 1373 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: be anything but thrilled with a win. And I do 1374 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: think it is a team sport here, and I think 1375 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: the Bears are gonna be an interesting team in the mix. Yeah, 1376 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: they might be. Their quarterback is not going to be 1377 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: their strongest position, but they were able to get out 1378 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: of that hole eventually turned around by shutting down Sam Bradford, 1379 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: getting some turnovers, setting up their offense, and making the 1380 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: plays at the end. So you have this new coaching 1381 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,479 Speaker 1: staff and for the first time in for a while, 1382 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: even if Drabinsky is struggling, it's like, all right, these 1383 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,919 Speaker 1: are real signs of progress. I'll give that. Like I said, 1384 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 1: they're two and one, And if you're a Bears fan, 1385 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you've been in in the dark ages for so long 1386 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that you don't want to hear negativity coming off a 1387 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: game like this. At the same time, it's just that 1388 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: this is the thing you traded up for bits Trabisky, 1389 01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: You this is the guy that you scouted and said 1390 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 1: he can be it with this great class come he 1391 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: thought he was better than Patrick mahone exactly, and I 1392 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: just that's there's a lingering sort of feeling of to 1393 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: see like a little concerned if I'm a Bearrass fan. 1394 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Outside of a fascinating defense, I was thinking about you know, 1395 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I try to bring things back, thinking of bringing 1396 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: something back. You ready? Ready? Is it? Okay? Let's go? 1397 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: What do you want to guess? It's somehow Josh Rosen 1398 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: really ready? That bears No, it's not't been doing that 1399 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: on this? How about this? Hoout? This? It bringing those back? 1400 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: Just know that that's another phrase that has not gone 1401 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: away for it to come back, it's not gone away 1402 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: long enough. Why did we think about putting Josh Rosen 1403 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: in down two points with just over two minutes left. 1404 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of criticism like, oh, you're putting 1405 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in such a bad spot. What are you talking about? 1406 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford was dreadful for three straight quarters. Give the 1407 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: kid a shot. He's gonna be startings no problems. What 1408 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: wrong with that? You tried to give your team a 1409 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,560 Speaker 1: spark because Bradford was a lifeless You have to do 1410 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: this every time some a quarterback comes into a game, 1411 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: like examine every fast. I think it's fine, didn't right out? 1412 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: He got the guy got yanked because he deserved to 1413 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: get yanked, and they put in the rookie. You could 1414 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 1: have beat the Bears. Sto't get up set about it. 1415 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: It just was Look at Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. You 1416 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 1: put the kids in that you think could be the 1417 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: friends that worked out pretty well. Whatever, Bro, I'm saying, 1418 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: no unnecessary mark. Now I'm putting I'm pushing back my 1419 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: reading of your long form one more week. Oh it 1420 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 1: will survive. Let's move on, stops. Looks to the end zone, 1421 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 1: fire down the medal of up to fourteen days? Is 1422 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 1: it not? Yes? Show me this official? Yes. Earl Thomas 1423 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: very Steve rab with the call k I r O. 1424 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas's fourth quarter interception is second of the game. 1425 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: Huge play both of them, Sea over the cow Boys. 1426 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Thomas now has three picks in three weeks despite missing 1427 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: all the training camp in the preseason during a contract holdout, 1428 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: and now, from what we're understanding, a regular season hold 1429 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 1: in whatever that means anyway, West Both teams finished with 1430 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: about three yards of total offense, but Seattle gotta win. 1431 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 1: They desperately needed. I think this is creative, Like if 1432 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: the NFL players aren't gonna get guaranteed contracts, and you're 1433 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: as good as Earl Thomas is, and you've meant as 1434 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: much to that franchise as he is, and you don't 1435 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,560 Speaker 1: want to pay him. He's having to hold in. He 1436 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: doesn't want to put his body in danger during the week, 1437 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: he said after the game, even if I have a headache, 1438 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 1: if I'm not I'm not practicing. And then he goes 1439 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 1: out and he's the best player on the field during 1440 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: the game. Everyone seemed to no one seemed to have 1441 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: a problem with it, at least during the game. Even 1442 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the coaches are you know, everyone's everybody should have a 1443 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: holding nobody needs to practice. No, I don't. I think 1444 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: it's it's all let's all break all the rules. Okay, whatever, 1445 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 1: pay him? Why don't they trade him? There? I do 1446 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: like that phrase holding though, I think like I would say, 1447 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: he's sleep in the bed with yoga on. No, Like, 1448 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: what what does this? What is it? What? What didn't 1449 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: you prefer this? Then Bell holding out? Like, to me, 1450 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: at least he's showing up there on game day. He's 1451 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,879 Speaker 1: either he's getting creative. I mean, it's kind of amazing 1452 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: that he did this in the week that they were 1453 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 1: playing against the Cowboys, that he picks off two passes 1454 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, and then he gestures to the Cowboys 1455 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,799 Speaker 1: sideline after one of the picks, which was basically a gesture. 1456 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: He explained as if you wanted to trade me and 1457 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: extend me, you should have done it. And I'm just like, yeah, 1458 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is alright, don just a little bit though, 1459 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 1: because number one, Earl Thomas and leve Bell are not 1460 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: the same situation. But I don't want to see leve Bell, 1461 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: who was a malcontent at this point, alright, I just 1462 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: don't like the way that I don't like the whole 1463 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: locker room there to begin with it. Leve Bell his 1464 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 1: solution is to simply give zero effort during the week 1465 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: then rolling on game day. No no, no, I'm talking, 1466 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: and we're saying, like extending this to leve Bell. Earl Thomas, 1467 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: I think like it's someone when they completely redid the 1468 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,719 Speaker 1: whole team, Earl Thomas probably needed to go. I always 1469 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: thought they probably should have traded him and gotten this 1470 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: thing done. Let Bell, I don't agree with the idea 1471 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 1: that we give him. Oh you just rest for six stays. 1472 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Here's an argument though, just because the Earl Thomas thing 1473 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 1: is fascinating. There's a strong argument he's the greatest player 1474 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: in franchise history and he's still playing great. So it's 1475 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a unique situation. It's not your normal player anything else 1476 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: in the game. Well, aw Boys offense is a mess. 1477 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Their offensive line got out played by the Seathawks perennially 1478 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: beleaguered offensive line Dak Prescott, I don't think it's going 1479 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: over a five yards and five straight starts and the receivers. 1480 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,479 Speaker 1: You know, this isn't breaking any ground, but they're just 1481 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: not good. They went out and paid Alan Hearns, they 1482 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: paid Terence Williams, and those guys aren't even part of 1483 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the offense. Really. They have a combined sixty nine yards 1484 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: and I think they're taking up about eleven or twelve million. 1485 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are saying one team in this league is 1486 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: going to the title of the most boring offense watch, 1487 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 1: and we are surging towards that type. Like would you 1488 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: guys be cool if Erico is upset about her her 1489 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: working situation and said, I'll be there for the podcast, 1490 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: for the three shows, and maybe for the Twitter show, 1491 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be there for any of 1492 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the pre production days. I won't help you with anything 1493 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 1: else because I'm upset with management. You have an issue 1494 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: with that. If she was four years, that would help 1495 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: her case at least, wait the greatest I'm saying if 1496 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,600 Speaker 1: she had put I'm saying, if she had put in 1497 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: three years where she was the best performer at her 1498 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: job in the entire and the best in this you 1499 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: are great. But I'm just saying it's so easy for 1500 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 1: people to automatically side with the player because that's like 1501 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: the the chivalrous thing to do. It seems to do 1502 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: in our in our business, but sometimes it just strikes 1503 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 1: me as overly cold business decisions that are put at 1504 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,200 Speaker 1: the expense of your teammates. And that's how this problem 1505 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 1: trying to parallel to us, is that our game day 1506 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: is seven days a week. Yeah, we never turn off. 1507 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: We have endless shows and list media responsibilities. You can't 1508 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 1: you can't go dark six days a week like an 1509 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: NFL player. This game was a reminder I think it's 1510 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: still gonna be tough to go to Seattle and win, 1511 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: and that they have enough pieces on defense I think 1512 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 1: to give people problems. Brawley McDougald has been playing great 1513 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,839 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner was back out there. You can't just cross 1514 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 1: them off. I feel like for the season well, especially 1515 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: when you have the Cowboys offensive Suddenly you know the 1516 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Packers rolling with the Cowboys offense, they will have a 1517 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: tough time winning. There's a good start for the Seahawks. 1518 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,719 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next week to Sunday Night football. 1519 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,919 Speaker 1: From the thirty three yard line on a roll Stafford 1520 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:42,560 Speaker 1: deep touchdown, Marvin Jones look like Gilmore was almost expecting it, 1521 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: and the speed of Marvin Jones made him pay. Chris 1522 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: Collinsworth and Al Michael's with the call for NBC. Matt 1523 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 1: Stafford through two touchdown passes and the Detroit Lions get 1524 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: a one hundred yard Russian game at a carry on Johnson, Yes, sir, 1525 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the first since two thousand, my goodness. Add to that 1526 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: a great defensive showing by the Lions and they get 1527 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: their first win of the season over the visiting New 1528 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,679 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Uh. Some surprises on Sunday Night. Greg Rosethal 1529 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: h surprises throughout Sunday and here was another one. The 1530 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,640 Speaker 1: Lions just looking like the better team from kickoff. So 1531 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 1: this is another level of surprise that they held the 1532 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Patriots to two hundred nine yards from scrimmage. I certainly 1533 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: you can imagine before the game, there's scenarios. Certainly the 1534 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Lions can win this game, but to totally dominate it, 1535 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: especially defensively, just has me thinking back to last week's 1536 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: game between the Lions and the fort And I know, 1537 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 1: if you look at the box score and said the 1538 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 1: Lions gave up thirty points, there was a defensive score there. 1539 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,840 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia had Jimmy g scrambled last week, and he 1540 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady and the Patriots receivers pretty scrambled today. 1541 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: They just weren't finding open receivers. And the ones that 1542 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 1: he did find with drops or me, he made bad throws. 1543 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Well, I just thought down the stretch when 1544 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 1: you were were all sitting here watching this game, and 1545 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,680 Speaker 1: I'll just played right through it. You know what, I'm 1546 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 1: not gonna get upset of Erica because she's struggling tonight. 1547 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 1: This is this is her team, and I will be 1548 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: nothing but nice to you. And although I did notice, 1549 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,760 Speaker 1: and I don't blame you at all, an extra sort 1550 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: of glee and and and bounce and enjoyment of the 1551 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: second half watching that game because you have sandwiches on 1552 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: the line for the Patriots demise, and like most of America, 1553 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 1: I think you would like to see a different Patriots story. 1554 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: It's understanding a different season. It's an unpredictable start to 1555 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 1: the season overall, and it's encased in this game where 1556 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the final four possessions for New England or punt, punt, 1557 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 1: interception and knocked out on downs. This game could have 1558 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: gone on for eight more hours and there wouldn't have 1559 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: been a comeback. Nothing was working, nobody's getting open, they're 1560 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,839 Speaker 1: all fence. Has nobody except Gronk who can beat man coverage. 1561 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: They desperately need Edelman and Josh Gordon and who knows 1562 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from John And all right, let's 1563 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 1: put this in this perspective because Patriots struggles in September 1564 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 1: have happened through the years. They have lost two games 1565 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: in a row. That is unusual, uh, in the recent 1566 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 1: history of Belichick and Brady, But they've never been one 1567 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 1: in two with Brady. They've never been one of two. 1568 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 1: So this is interesting ground. And what's gonna happen now. 1569 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Of course, in the New England area on w e 1570 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 1: I and the local radio, everyone's gonna go nuts that 1571 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 1: they don't have enough weapons and then they don't fall, 1572 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: guys falling an NFL network and ESPN and everybody's gonna 1573 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: go nuts for a whole week. What's wrong with the Patriots? 1574 01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: How do the Patriots get right? And if history tells 1575 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 1: us anything, they'll just start steamrolling teams eventually. But it 1576 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: does seem like this team has a lot of work 1577 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 1: to do right now. They don't seem like to me 1578 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 1: they are nearly as dire straits as everybody last year 1579 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: wondering if they have the worst defense in the league 1580 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 1: after three games the two thousand and fourteen season, when 1581 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs took him to the wood shed and everybody 1582 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: people in that press conference asked Bill Belichick if he 1583 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: was gonna bench Tom Brady Like this team, to me, 1584 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 1: does not feel like it's as much dangerous those to 1585 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: those two teams were. They they have a lot of problems, 1586 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: though they can't pick up a third and one. The 1587 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,600 Speaker 1: equation going into the year was that the defense is 1588 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna need to be better because you're gonna start out 1589 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 1: the season slow offensively. I think they're slower than they 1590 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 1: would have expected, certainly in this game, but I think 1591 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Patricia was a huge part of that. But the key 1592 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 1: is that the defense can't get off the field. They're 1593 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: they're not bringing a lot to the table. And I've 1594 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 1: talked with you before the game even started, Dan that 1595 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 1: they were missing three defensive starters, including their best to 1596 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 1: win Trey Flowers, and that was gonna be a factor. 1597 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: And this is a team with a smaller margin for error. 1598 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna need to win close games. They're 1599 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna need to figure out, you know, different ways how 1600 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 1: they won games early on last decade, and so far 1601 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 1: they're not coming up with anything. I mean, we know 1602 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: that New England spends the first constantly adjusting and figuring 1603 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 1: out who they are, but this is one of the 1604 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 1: few even in those other years, you still see the pieces. 1605 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I look at this New England offense right now and 1606 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: it lacks identity. But what other team in the league says, 1607 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,560 Speaker 1: we'll soon have Julian Edelman and by the way, we 1608 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 1: just get we just got Josh Gordon for like a 1609 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: basket of fruit. And by the way, he could be 1610 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 1: dominant too. So it's like you're adding to kepe me. 1611 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: Those are two huge if I mean I thought he 1612 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 1: looked good in the preseason. I know we're not allowed 1613 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,679 Speaker 1: to point to that, but you know, Josh Gordon's Josh Gordon. 1614 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon is an if if he can't get on 1615 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 1: the field. I'm just saying if, but if if we're 1616 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 1: talking about the overall experience of Josh Gordon, but if 1617 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 1: he's if he's plugged in any places week to week. 1618 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: He is not an if he is a dominant player. 1619 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: But those are two ifs in the sense of I 1620 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 1: think the Patriots need help on offense, and you need one, 1621 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: if not both of those guys to be them at 1622 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: their themselves, at their best. So I think the Patriots 1623 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 1: it is a bit of an uneasy time. I think 1624 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: on the throne of sleeves sky is not falling. I'm 1625 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: not like like rubbing my hands together like a villain 1626 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: saying this is eight and eight season, but I think 1627 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a shaky start and 1628 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. Here's what I'd say 1629 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: that Patriots fans except a different type of season, Like 1630 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: maybe I I almost I almost feel guilty maybe of 1631 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 1: how many incredibly dominant you know, by years that they've had. 1632 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: But there are all sorts of different ways to have 1633 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: football seasons, and it's not the end of the world 1634 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: if they are three and three or their four and 1635 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 1: four and they're figuring out and they try to get 1636 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs a different way because as a 1637 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Patriots fan, not a lot of it matters really except 1638 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's a very spoiled way to look at it. 1639 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: But it's a long season, and it's okay if you're 1640 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: not looking too great for seven, eight, nine weeks, even 1641 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 1: if you can end up closing. They just you know, 1642 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 1: they have a lot to figure out. Are you okay, Erica? 1643 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 1: That Erica had a moderate Twitter melt down during the game. 1644 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 1: Should we watched her through the glass? Watched the game? 1645 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Obviously a very emotional Patriots fan. Do you we're gonna 1646 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: give you the floor? Do you want to care to 1647 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 1: make a statement or deliver some type of admissive to 1648 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: the audience. I mean, the Lions outplayed us on both 1649 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. MA Patricia outcoached us. Belichick Belichick. 1650 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 1: Belichick has been out coached every game since the Divisional 1651 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 1: round of last year's playoffs. WHOA why don't you hit 1652 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of burner? Boats. So I mean that take 1653 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 1: was so hot. It was a little too hot. I 1654 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 1: feel like you're saying Doug Moron out coached them in 1655 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. Entering the game, I 1656 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 1: love that take. Maybe not throughout the game, but what's 1657 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 1: happening feels like they had a better game plan. Brian 1658 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: coached them in tweet that and watch it take off 1659 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 1: into Scott. I'm not what what was it that you 1660 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 1: loved about bell O'Brien's Week one. I didn't love anything. 1661 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that to look at Belicheck and to 1662 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 1: look at Bill Belichick, it's just the van had the 1663 01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: wrong gradual decline. Maybe it's Belichick. Tom Brady, He's a 1664 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: balloon there on a deep all. The fourth quarter of 1665 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 1: this game made me think that maybe I'm finally on 1666 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 1: the right track. Brady hasn't had a good three games, 1667 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and I think that that is the most concerning part 1668 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: of it. Even Week one, where where he moved the 1669 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: ball and had an overall good game, he had six 1670 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: or seven incompletes, just inaccurate throws, which you don't see 1671 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: from him. He has not been accurate. I think it 1672 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 1: does have to do with the pieces around him. But 1673 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: when is the last time we were sitting here? You're 1674 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 1: mining deep into the second half he has ninety yards 1675 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: passing crazy, Yeah, you could go back. I don't even 1676 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 1: know if it's ever happened about the Dolphins game in 1677 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: December last year. That wasn't quite as bad, but you're right, 1678 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 1: it was similar. Happens to the Lions who got off 1679 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: the mat and Matt Patricia, who really has weather to 1680 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 1: storm here to start his career, that had to feel good. 1681 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I think he probably was hoping that Belichick would maybe 1682 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: give him a little bit of a longer hug, maybe 1683 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 1: say something encouraging or something congratulatory. But Bill is not 1684 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 1: going to do that because Bill is not that type 1685 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 1: of guy. That's not how and then walk off whatever. Bill, 1686 01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 1: But Matt Patricia, your boy, your student, actually beat the 1687 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 1: picture of the teacher. It's a massive win for them, 1688 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: who shouldn't be thinking their seasons over by any means. 1689 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Suddenly you're one and two. Suddenly the Giants feel differently 1690 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: about their season. Suddenly the Bills feel differently. It's like 1691 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: it's not too early to get off. Are these Lions 1692 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: veterans who were so peaked about having to work hard 1693 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 1: and suddenly a practice is a little tougher. Are we 1694 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 1: are we thinking maybe they're starting to wake up to 1695 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 1: this world? Will calm down. You can't expect football players 1696 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:29,719 Speaker 1: to run mark the Bears, great defense, questionable quarterback situation, 1697 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,639 Speaker 1: first place around the NFL podcast, the Packers a suspect 1698 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: skill corps and also a quarterback that's all beat up, 1699 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 1: and the Vikings just got waxed at home by the Bills. 1700 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 1: NFC North is not a closed book. I'm jack all right. Now, 1701 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 1: next time you hear from us, we'll be uh, you'll 1702 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: see us, and please do all we ask with peace 1703 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 1: and love, is that you give our Twitter show a chance. 1704 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: I know it's different than the audio format and all that, 1705 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 1: but it's our Tuesday, one thirty Pacific, four thirty Eastern. Uh, 1706 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: check us out. We'll have Reggie Bush with us. I'm 1707 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 1: sure we'll touch on whether he's angry that Kerry On 1708 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: Johnson has now taken the torch five years later as 1709 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the last one thousand yard rusher for the Ones. I'm 1710 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 1: sure by about it. Oh yeah, d oh my god, 1711 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,760 Speaker 1: what a horrible just like eighty other things to brag about. 1712 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: I think it's fine. So Touch bases Reggie on that, 1713 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,479 Speaker 1: but thank you to everyone for listening. People should really 1714 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: check out Mark's long form. I know we've we've mentioned 1715 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, but it for anyone that's a big 1716 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,839 Speaker 1: enough fan to listen to this show. It really connected 1717 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 1: with me just growing up being a fan, and I 1718 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,759 Speaker 1: think it's gonna do that with anyone that that listens 1719 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 1: to it. So I think if you haven't checked it out, 1720 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,920 Speaker 1: please do. I will. I just need a little direct 1721 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't really directed a Dan that was more listeners. 1722 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,240 Speaker 1: I knew Dan was sitting it out for a few weeks, 1723 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: just about ten to twelve days. All right, Kay, okay, 1724 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,720 Speaker 1: let's go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I was a jerk 1725 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah. No, she's hurt. Okay, that completely hates us. 1726 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,679 Speaker 1: Dan hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, 1727 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: the old Boss. I'm Ricky, Hollywood. She's had better nights. 1728 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I've been there, Darling, hanging there. You'll be in the 1729 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl until Tuesday. M