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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. New video just emerging after

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Speaker 1: a missing Jersey woman's car is found disabled in Pine

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Speaker 1: barrens tonight. Where is Danielle? I mean to see Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: A New Jersey woman's baffling disappearance mild camping leaves her

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Speaker 2: mother searching for answers. What happened to Danielle?

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Speaker 1: How could this beautiful young woman just vanish off the

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Speaker 1: face of the earth just like that? I don't buy it, okay,

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Speaker 1: how did the whole thing start? Listen?

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Speaker 2: Saturday, Sue texts Danielle to check in, but doesn't get

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Speaker 2: a response. That's not completely unusual, But as Sue sends

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Speaker 2: several more texts and call multiple times with no response,

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Speaker 2: she begins to fear something is wrong. When it's been

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Speaker 2: a week with no contact with Danielle, Sue reports Danielle

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Speaker 2: missing to the New Jersey State Police officers begin and

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Speaker 2: intense investigation, trying to retrace Danielle's steps.

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Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star Pale, but straight out to

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Speaker 1: Danielle's mom suit Quack and Bush, Miss Qurack and Bush.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: to the video in just one moment. But miss crack

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Speaker 1: and Bush, when is the last time you spoke with

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Speaker 1: your daughter?

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Speaker 3: Friday night, April twelfth, and what was your conversation? It

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Speaker 3: was a good conversation. She said she was camping. I

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Speaker 3: wondered why she was there. I guess there was, Well,

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Speaker 3: there was an eclipse.

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Speaker 4: Then we talked. We talked.

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Speaker 3: I prayed with her. She struggled since the loss of

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Speaker 3: her brothers and her father and grandfather. But she was

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Speaker 3: sounding okay.

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Speaker 4: She it's just a regular conversation.

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Speaker 1: She was camping to look at the eclipse. That was

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Speaker 1: my understanding, okay, And she seemed in good spirits. She

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Speaker 1: was okay. When you state that you prayed with her,

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Speaker 1: that's because she had suffered loss, as had you.

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Speaker 3: What had happened In two thousand and fifteen, I lost

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Speaker 3: my oldest son to suicide. Not ten months later I

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Speaker 3: lost my youngest son who was serving as a marine.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, Danielle lost her grandfather that she was living

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Speaker 3: with to COVID, and a month later her father to

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Speaker 1: Your family has been through so much and now this

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Speaker 1: Mss Quackenbush, how as a crime victim myself. I'm always curious,

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Speaker 1: how do you get to sleep at night? How do

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Speaker 1: you take your mind off Danielle missing even for five minutes.

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Speaker 3: It's not easy. I have strong faith that this will

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Speaker 3: be made right, but it's it's not easy.

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Speaker 1: Miss Quackenbush spoke to her daughter that day. Everything was fine. Listen.

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Speaker 5: Danielle Lopez is in frequent contact with her mom and

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Speaker 5: calls her from the Brendan T. Burns State Forest Campground

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Speaker 5: Friday night. Sue tells her daughter it sounds like fun.

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Speaker 5: Danielle hasn't been camping since she was a little girl.

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Speaker 5: Danielle tells Sue to stop worrying. When Sue questions if

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Speaker 5: it's warm enough to be camping, Danielle ends their conversation

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Speaker 5: with the usual I love you and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Joining me is Danielle's mom, Sue Quackenbush. Miss Quackenbush, you

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Speaker 1: stated that everything seemed fine. You guys typically prayed together

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Speaker 1: over the phone. That was not unusual. So she goes

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Speaker 1: out camping to see the eclipse, and you are actually

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Speaker 1: worried that she might get cold. Yes, well, describe that

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation. I just said it's April's cold

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Speaker 1: at night. She assured me she had a heater, a campfire,

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Speaker 1: and but she was okay. She struggled a lot after

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Speaker 1: the losses. Danielle struggled a lot. So I what do

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Speaker 3: After the loss of her father. She had resources and

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Speaker 3: so she wasn't working. It didn't change anything, just I'm

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: Very much in touch with her, calling.

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Speaker 4: Her twice a day.

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Speaker 3: We didn't always speak twice a day, but it called

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Speaker 1: So you guys were in very very close contact. Has

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Speaker 1: there ever been a time when it's been over a

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Speaker 6: Never?

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Speaker 1: Okay, to the moment that Danielle seemingly just vanished off

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Speaker 7: At nine to eleven am Saturday morning, Danielle is spotted

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Speaker 7: on surveillance footage buying coffee from a wah wah in Vincentown,

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Speaker 7: not appear to be in distress. Danielle uses a wah

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Speaker 7: Wah rewards card she shares with her mother, Regarded by

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Speaker 7: both as emergency money to make her purchases that morning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there is Danielle and this is nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: she shared with her mom. Now, Miss Kragenbush, why did

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Speaker 1: you regard that as quote emergency money? What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Danielle, I had resources, but as a mom, if she

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Speaker 3: ever needed asked if she ever needed anything. We've had

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Speaker 3: it since she was probably eighteen that we've shared it.

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Speaker 1: But there were.

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Speaker 3: Times where she'd grab a coffee in a wah wah

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Speaker 1: When did you realize, Miss Kragenbush, something was wrong.

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Speaker 3: I talked with her on Friday night, and by Monday,

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Speaker 3: when I couldn't reach her, I was growing increasingly concerned

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Speaker 3: every day.

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Speaker 1: So you believe something happened between the Saturday morning at

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven when we see her at wah wahs

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Speaker 1: and by Monday morning something was horribly wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's when I started becoming alarmed, and then there were

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Speaker 3: news on the news that there were fires in the forest.

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Speaker 3: And that's when I call called the missing persons.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor John Delatory, joining US licensed psychologist,

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Speaker 1: and you can find him online at resolution FCS dot com.

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Speaker 1: Dotor Delatory. Thank you for being with us. And that

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Speaker 1: is what we call routine evidence, habit evidence, evidence of routine.

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Speaker 1: They talk to each other about twice a day. They

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Speaker 1: were texting back and forth all the time. We have

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Speaker 1: seen timeline start based on something as seemingly innocuous as

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Speaker 1: a dog barking. And that's the Oj Simpson case when

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Speaker 1: Nicole Brown's dog Akita began to moan and wail and

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Speaker 1: the neighbors heard it and they had never heard anything

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Speaker 1: like that before. Here, I would place the time the

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Speaker 1: timeline starting at about nine to twelve after she walked

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Speaker 1: out of that wah wah on a Saturday morning, probably

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Speaker 8: Yeah, not only that, is that by Monday morning, you

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Speaker 8: would think then that she would have responded back to

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Speaker 8: the behaviors of someone really kind of define what exactly

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Speaker 8: it is that's going on. If they're still around and

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Speaker 8: still able to communicate, you would think that they would

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Speaker 8: engage in a behavior that would suggest that everything is fine.

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Speaker 8: If they're not able to do that, then perhaps something

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Speaker 8: else got in the way of them being able to communicate.

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Speaker 8: Lost the phone, or the power goes out on the phone.

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Speaker 8: Something happens in that timeframe where she's not able to

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Speaker 8: say hey to other people, right, whether it's friends, whoever

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Speaker 8: it is that's in her life, is she's not able

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Speaker 8: to tell them everything's going okay. Right, I'm just out

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Speaker 1: With us Brian Vazgibbons Direct Operations USPA Nationwide Security. He

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Speaker 1: leads a team of expert investigators specializing in locating missing people. Brian,

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Speaker 1: the fact that she suddenly stopped, I know it's called

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Speaker 1: routine evidence evidence of habit, but I would start the

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Speaker 1: timeline right there because that was a huge departure from

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Speaker 1: her normal died in the wool routine of talking to mom,

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Speaker 1: praying with mom on the phone, texting back and forth.

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Speaker 1: That starts it for me that Saturday when she steps

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Speaker 4: Certainly.

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Speaker 9: And I'm a student of renowned cold case detective Jay

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Speaker 9: Warner Wallace, who talks about these investigations in three phases,

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Speaker 9: the fuse, the explosion, and the fallout. Okay, so when

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Speaker 9: we're talking about what's leading up to her disappearance, we

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Speaker 9: start that timeline where the departure from her routine behavior begins.

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Speaker 9: A lack of a response back to a text, lack

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Speaker 4: We know that her car broke down.

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Speaker 9: These are all things that are that fuse of what

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Speaker 9: happened that described to us the lead up to this event.

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Speaker 1: Ms Kraich. I think, actually, now that I'm analyzing it,

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Speaker 1: the timeline starts later based on the new video evidence

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Speaker 1: you've seen of the go pro But let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, So did you call and report missing?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I did.

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Speaker 1: When was that and what happened when you called to

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Speaker 3: I believe it was the twenty third that I called Again.

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Speaker 3: I woke up that morning seeing that there were forest fires,

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Speaker 3: significant forest fires in the Penn State forest area, and

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Speaker 3: without having been able to reach her, I didn't was.

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Speaker 3: I saw her calls, the texts weren't going through, the

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Speaker 3: and called. Wednesday, the twenty fourth is when I called

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Speaker 6: Immediately the search is on Listen, believing Danielle is still

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Speaker 6: in the area. State police launch massive searches for Danielle

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Speaker 6: throughout the state park. Detectives are also searching for her

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Speaker 6: until Danielle's car is found abandoned a week later, roughly

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Speaker 6: fifteen miles from the campsite. The car is parked in

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Speaker 6: the center of a large puddle on Los Lane Road,

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Speaker 1: Sydney Sunder joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: explained to me about the car being found. What can

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Speaker 1: you tell me about that now? This is after wahwahs.

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Speaker 10: Yes, ma'am so. A week into the search for Danielle,

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Speaker 10: her car is found about fifteen miles from the campsite

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Speaker 10: where she was staying. The car was parked on a

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Speaker 10: dirt road deep in the Penn State Forest. This is

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Speaker 10: a heavily wooded area. It's very rural, but it seems

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Speaker 10: to be a fairly popular trail. And her car is

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Speaker 10: parked in this giant mud puddle and it's just sitting there.

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Speaker 10: The battery is dead.

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Speaker 1: Now, isn't it true? When they jumped it, the emergency

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Speaker 1: blinkers immediately started fling, and we believe that the flashing

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Speaker 1: blinkers is what ran out the battery.

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Speaker 10: That's correct, Nancy, That's exactly what police believe happened.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. Okay, let's see a map

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Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. Tell me again, Sidney, where

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Speaker 1: is the car as it relates to the campsite and

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Speaker 1: as it relates to wah Wahs.

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Speaker 10: So the campsite is kind of directly in between both

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Speaker 10: of these points we see on the map. So she

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Speaker 10: goes to this Wahwahs in one direction, where her car

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Speaker 10: is found is fifteen miles from the campsite in the

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Speaker 10: other direction. So her car is found disabled on this

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Speaker 10: lost lane road that goes straight through the Penn Forest.

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Speaker 10: It's a popular trail, but it's rural. It's a dirt path,

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Speaker 10: it's a heavily wooded area.

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Speaker 2: A camping trip in New Jersey's behind barrens turns into

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Speaker 2: a missing person's. Danielle Lopez's car found abandoned and disabled.

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Speaker 2: Why did Danielle Lopez vanish?

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Speaker 1: Why does she vanish? And where is she right now? Listen?

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Speaker 2: Three months after Danielle is reported missing, a couple comes

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Speaker 1: That adds to our timeline, which is extremely significant. Straight

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Speaker 1: Not much further than that. Hold on, let's see that video,

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Speaker 3: So again, this is probably about eight o'clock at night,

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Speaker 1: Okay, here is her vehicle getting pulled out of the

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Speaker 1: The camera is capturing Daniel's car. Now, this is where

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Speaker 3: She asks, I mean when she's walking once they know

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Speaker 1: miss Krackenbush is just trying to find her daughter and

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Speaker 1: Under our law, in our jurisprudence, there is no duty

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Speaker 11: Aid in a situation like this. I mean, it's unfortunate,

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Speaker 12: The police, Just call nine to one one and say, hey,

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Speaker 13: Just make a phone call, just call the authorities, and

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Speaker 1: To Ms Krachenbos joining us, she's begging for your help

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Speaker 1: to try to find Danielle. So there were multiple times

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Speaker 1: When you say the go pro people change your story, okay,

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Speaker 3: The first story, they reached out to me saying that

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Speaker 3: They said that Danielle said she had cell phone service

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Speaker 3: me to believe Danielle would not be coming back based

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Speaker 4: That wasn't so that.

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Speaker 3: That turned out to be different. And I refer to

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Speaker 1: What was miss Crackenbush, What was found in the car?

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Speaker 3: They say nothing. Now now they come back at me

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Speaker 4: They are now.

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Speaker 2: Danielle Lopez is all smiles as she mis coffee at

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Speaker 1: This beautiful young woman goes camping to watch the eclipse,

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Speaker 1: She speaks to her mother, and then she's never seen again.

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Speaker 1: Where is Danielle? Her mother? Sue Quackenbush is with us

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Speaker 1: tonight asking for your help. The tip line is six

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Speaker 1: There is a five thousand dollars reward in the search

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Speaker 7: Now I want you to hear what a tipster says.

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Speaker 7: Another tipster comes forward, claiming to have pulled Danielle's car

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sidney Sumner joining US Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Sidney,

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Speaker 1: explain to me again how this tipster fits into the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Nancy, So people have come forward since the search

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Speaker 10: the tipster is coming forward. The couple with the GoPro

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Speaker 10: Danielle never returns to the car. That's why the battery

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Speaker 1: Okay, now a more clear timeline is emerging. Brief as Gibbons,

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Speaker 1: can you believe there were so many chances to help

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Speaker 1: relating on, people come along and she says, I'm stuck.

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Speaker 9: Incredibly frustrating Nancy. Two opportunities that wasted precious time for Danielle.

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Speaker 9: Here right, we have the opportunity number one. The couple

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Speaker 1: Krackenbush tell me everything you observed on this newly emerging video,

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Speaker 3: I see Danielle pretty carefree. She is just going along

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Speaker 4: Then they come across.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one more time, very slowly. From beginning to end.

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Speaker 1: Miss Krakabush has seen this video. LA Law Enforcement has

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Speaker 3: I see Danielle walking. I can tell she's confused as

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Speaker 3: I saw the apprehension like, uh oh, I've just got

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Speaker 4: That's what as a mother saw. She didn't know how

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Speaker 3: But evidently there were plenty of people around that day

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Speaker 1: Were the go pro people men or women?

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Speaker 3: It was a man and a woman according to the people.

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Speaker 3: But I don't hear another woman's voice in there, and

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Speaker 3: Something mounted to the dashboard I only hear his voice.

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Speaker 1: And what is he saying to hermus Krackenbush can help

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Speaker 5: New Jersey State police have searched both the campground and

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Speaker 5: run down every tip they have received to no avail.

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Speaker 5: Cops say there is no evidence pointing to foul play,

438
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Speaker 5: but the investigation is still open and active.

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Speaker 1: Ms Qrackenbush, what is your response to law enforcement saying

440
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Speaker 1: there's no evidence of foul play?

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Speaker 3: Initially they said there was under suspicious circumstances. Evan said

442
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Speaker 3: that to me, and they say it's active, ongoing and

443
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: there'll be more searches. But I could watch that go

444
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: pro VIDI about another three hundred more times. I just

445
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: know this investigation would be completely different if either of

446
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: those people that could have helped.

447
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Speaker 1: I've got to say, Matthew Mangino with me, veteran trial

448
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: lawyer in the Pennsylvania jurisdiction. Matthew, I find that very

449
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: odd when you see a lady alone, a young woman

450
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: alone in a disley wooded forest at night, and she

451
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: asked for help, and the words Miss Quackenbush said were,

452
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Speaker 1: I can't help you. I can't help you. I find

453
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: that very very unusual, to the point of being suspicious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is certainly strange.

455
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Speaker 12: I mean, at a minimum, you know you would say,

456
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Speaker 12: to a woman's stranded in the woods, if you feel uncomfortable.

457
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 11: About putting her in your car, say hey, go.

458
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Speaker 12: Back to your vehicle.

459
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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave and I'm going to call for help.

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Speaker 12: They don't have to give her a ride out of

461
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Speaker 12: the woods necessarily, but at least give.

462
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Speaker 14: Her some direction and provide her with an opportunity to

463
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Speaker 14: get some help. I mean, their.

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Speaker 12: Failure to do anything in this situation not only is

465
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Speaker 12: improper in terms of trying to find Danielle.

466
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Speaker 13: Immediately or help her, but also making it very difficult

467
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Speaker 13: to properly investigate this case because so much time passed

468
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Speaker 13: between when she was last seen and when she was

469
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Speaker 13: reported missing.

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Speaker 10: And that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 14: If they had done something earlier, at least you could

472
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Speaker 14: have had an immediate, meaningful investigation of her disappearance or

473
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Speaker 14: much better, they would have found her at her car

474
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Speaker 14: and helped her and got.

475
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Speaker 11: Her out of the woods and back home.

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Speaker 1: If it's given is I'm question the words I can't

477
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Speaker 1: help you, Not that I question was Krackenbush. I'm sure

478
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Speaker 1: she's telling us what she saw on that GoPro and

479
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: what she heard, But that level of disregard for this

480
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Speaker 1: young woman alone out in the woods at night, on

481
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Speaker 1: foot asking for help, I can't help you. To me,

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Speaker 1: that rises to a level of suspicion on whoever had

483
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Speaker 1: that GoPro.

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Speaker 9: Certainly, and this is contrary to what we see in

485
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Speaker 9: most missing persons cases that take place in the backcountry.

486
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Speaker 9: Folks that are camping, hiking, exploring these backcountry areas typically

487
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Speaker 9: provide a genuine and tremendous amount of assistance to somebody

488
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Speaker 9: in need of help. So this is outside of the

489
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Speaker 9: norm of what we typically see with these types of cases.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to make sense of it.

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Speaker 1: On Sidney Sumner joining us Crimeline dot com, Sydney, what

492
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Speaker 1: exactly are police saying? Are they saying they don't suspect

493
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Speaker 1: foul play?

494
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Speaker 10: That's correct, Nancy. According to detectives with the New Jersey

495
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 10: State police, they have no evidence supporting foul play being

496
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Speaker 10: involved in her disappearance.

497
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Speaker 1: Delatory, do you ever get tired of hearing that a

498
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: young girl or woman goes missing? I remember when Stacy

499
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Peterson went missing and her husband, a cop, says she's

500
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Speaker 1: just with her new boyfriend that would be Jerry Peterson,

501
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: and everybody just accepted it. I mean, over and over,

502
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: she's dead, over and over and over we hear no

503
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: foul play. Why does that keep happening? People just chalk

504
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: it off what she's slung up with another guy that

505
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: didn't happen.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the problem is is the decision making that goes

507
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 8: into when you're conducting an investigation, because when you don't

508
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 8: find something as an investigator, as just a human being,

509
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 8: when you don't find evidence of something, you can jump

510
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 8: to the conclusion that the thing that you would be

511
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 8: typically doing an investigation didn't happen. And that's a falsehood, right,

512
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 8: That's that's a complete falsehood because any number of things

513
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 8: could have contributed to an investigator not finding the evidence

514
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 8: of foul play. And currently we're seeing a lot of issues,

515
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 8: including with this so called couple with the GoPro that

516
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 8: needs to be investigated further. If you if you investigate

517
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 8: under the assumption that something happened, then you can start

518
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 8: looking for things that maybe support it or don't support it.

519
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 8: But you can't just outright say because then that's another

520
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 8: issue that's coming into play with not being able to find.

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Speaker 1: Daniel ms Krackenbush. Have you met with the go Pro couple?

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Speaker 4: No, No, they won't. I asked no.

523
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Speaker 3: No to say, they've asked what I've asked them if

524
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: they would release that go Pro video. To me, the

525
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: investigation is with the Major Crimes Unit. It is not

526
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: with missing persons. The investigtion is with the Major Crimes Unit.

527
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: So that indicates that a crime or something that they

528
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: know that a crime has occurred.

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Speaker 1: So them saying they don't suspect foul play, you don't

530
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Speaker 1: believe that because this has gone to Major crimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they never said that they don't suspect foul play

532
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: to me, they have not said that.

533
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: So the go Pro couple, you say you have not

534
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: met with them, though.

535
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: The police asked them not to have any further communication

536
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: with me after asking them if I could have the video.

537
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: So you asked for the video? What did they say?

538
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: The State Police asked them not to release it.

539
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 4: I don't suppose there is a why. I guess it's evidence.

541
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Speaker 3: I can't say they just I would watch that over

542
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: and over and over and over, and I've only been

543
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: given limited time to see it, in each time looking

544
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: for jewelry she had on, or looking at it differently,

545
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: but I've been allowed three times to see it.

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Speaker 7: Danielle Lopez is five foot four inches tall, one hundred

547
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 7: and thirty five pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes.

548
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 7: Danielle usually wears glasses and was last seen wearing a

549
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 7: black long sleeve shirt, blue jeans, and light colored shoes.

550
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 7: Sue Quackenbush desperate to bring her daughter home and asking

551
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 7: the public for their health. There's a limited time five

552
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 7: thousand dollars reward for information leading directly to Danielle Lopez.

553
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 7: If you have any information on Danielle Lopez, please call

554
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 7: New Jersey State Police Missing Persons Unit six h nine

555
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 7: eight A two two thousand, extension twenty five fifty four,

556
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 7: or call the Community United Efforts Center twenty four hour

557
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 7: hotline at nine to one zero two three two one

558
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 7: six eighty seven.

559
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: There is a five thousand dollars reward in exchange for

560
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: information leading to Danielle Lopez is whereabouts now. Everyone that

561
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: seemingly passed her and did nothing is in farc is

562
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: in stark contrast to.

563
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Speaker 7: This September first, five days after Gabby of Patito leaves

564
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 7: a restaurant in Wyoming crying while Brian Laundry is angry

565
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 7: with staff, Brian Laundry arrives in the Northport home he

566
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 7: and Gabby Patito share with Laundry's parents. Brian Laundry has

567
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 7: driven Gabby of Potito's van back to Florida, but Gabby

568
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 7: is not with him. When he arrives, he.

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Speaker 15: Is apologizing, but I guess I said it in like

570
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 15: a mean tone, and he really frustrated with me, and

571
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 15: he bought a car and told me to let's take

572
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 15: a breathing, but I didn't want to see a breather

573
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 15: and I wanted to get going.

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Speaker 1: We're out of water. More upsets, Yah, didn't help? More

575
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: upset Yeah, And.

576
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Speaker 15: So our goal was to come here and come retil

577
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 15: our water.

578
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Are you guys living the van right now? On travels?

579
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

580
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 9: Okay.

581
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: An opportunity for law enforcement to have saved Gabby Potito's life. Instead,

582
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: they named her the aggressor and sent the couple on

583
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: their way. She was then murdered by Brian Lawlaundry, who

584
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: then drove her for a transit back across the country

585
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: and started scheming and plotting to hide what had happened.

586
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: Ms.

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00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Krackenbush, you state that you look at that go pro

588
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: video when you had the limited access to it over

589
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: and over and over again of your daughter.

590
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: Why it's the last known I have of her.

591
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm just stuck by the fact that they didn't offer help.

592
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: I hope to see something new each time, but again

593
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: I don't have it, so I can't look at it.

594
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: I've only seen it three times.

595
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Again.

596
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: Danielle's boyfriend didn't report her missing for several weeks after

597
00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: I did, so there's wonder about that as well.

598
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: That's true, Sydney Soner. Her boyfriend did not report her missing.

599
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 10: Correct, Nancy. The boyfriend who apparently she was camping with

600
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 10: that weekend did not report her missing.

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Speaker 1: Sidney, do we know why he did not report her missing?

602
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they had split up, but why did

603
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: he leave her to start with?

604
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, we know that Danielle was not alone at

605
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 10: the wahahs, but police had not released who she was with.

606
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 10: She was traveling with someone Saturday morning, but correct by

607
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 10: four pm she was alone on Los Leanne Road. We

608
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 10: don't know why the boyfriend abandoned her, where he went,

609
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 10: if he truly abandoned her. We know that police have

610
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 10: spoken with him. He's given a statement, but police had

611
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 10: not released any details about what he told them.

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00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Miss Quickenbush, you stated that go Pro is the last

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Speaker 1: known siding of Danielle. When you were watching it over

614
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: and over, what did you hope to learn again?

615
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 4: I only three times, but I don't know what's to learn.

616
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: But if I know the police have watched it hundreds

617
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: of times, I just hope if I saw anything something.

618
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 4: I know that her tent was removed from.

619
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Speaker 3: The campsite and she had been paid through some more time.

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00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: So I just would like to see the evidence or

621
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 3: the car. If there's no evidence, I'd like to see

622
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: her things that that might lead to something that maybe

623
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: only a mother knows and detectives don't.

624
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: I search.

625
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: I do something every day for this and getting the

626
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: billboards and trying to.

627
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: Come up with answers.

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00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Where did you put together the money for the reward?

629
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: That is the Q Center the Community United Effort for

630
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: Missing Persons out of Wilmington, North Carolina that offered and

631
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: put up the reward. The billboard time was donated. After

632
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: many phone calls to billboard companies, they did donate that time.

633
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 4: The billboard will be up.

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Speaker 1: For thirty days. Brian, do you ever just get exhausted

635
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: with hearing moms and family members seemingly doing it all

636
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: on their own, all alone, trying to find their daughter.

637
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 9: It tears your heart out, Nancy, And that's one of

638
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 9: the reasons that we keep doing what we do at USPA,

639
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 9: is to provide a voice, in some shred of hope

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00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 9: to these families who have endured so much.

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00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 10: Ms.

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Quick and Bush, I have a little girl. I cannot

643
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: imagine life without her or my son. What is your

644
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: message to everyone listening tonight to.

645
00:38:53,120 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: Please please reach out. Someone knows something. This someone he

646
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: knows something. I reached out to the Gabby Potito Foundation,

647
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 3: I reached out to many foundations just.

648
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: Wondering how to get more attention for this.

649
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: So, Nancy, I really appreciate you taking the time to

650
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: do this for Danielle. I just want people to know

651
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: that infectious smile, her kind and generous ways, how important

652
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: family is to her, that all matters. I love her deeply,

653
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: and I'll never stop doing whatever it is I can do.

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Speaker 1: Miss Rackenbush, We're not just airing this. We are praying

655
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Speaker 1: for answers and that somehow Danielle is brought back to

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Speaker 1: you again. The tip line is six zero nine eight

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Speaker 1: eight to two thousand, extension two five four repeat six

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Speaker 1: zero nine eight eight to two two thousand. There is

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Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars reward for information leading to Danielle Lopez.

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Speaker 1: We remember American hero Detective Terrence Green, Fulton County Sheriffs,

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Speaker 1: shot and killed in the line of duty, Survived by

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Speaker 1: wife turned widow, Chavelle, and sons Marquis, Isaiah, Willie and Samuel.

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Speaker 1: American hero Detective Terence Green, Nancy Grace signing off goodbye

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