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Speaker 1: just to leave the foiliest. I've been having trouble in

425
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 1: the handful of times i've I've bottomed, I've just had sex. Recently,

426
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble coming while something is inside me. The

427
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: thing they don't tell you about anal sex is that

428
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 1: it does hurt every time in the beginning, like like

429
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: it's not something where it's like you do it enough

430
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: times and it's like, oh, forget it now, you can

431
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: just slip in when when the dick first go goes in.

432
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I think it does hurt every time, and there is

433
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: that period of adjustment, which is why these are so handy,

434
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: and also just the mentality and the knowledge of the

435
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: fact that like the pain is a part of it

436
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: in the beginning, and then I'm off to the y.

437
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: And I spent my entire twenties so afraid of bottoming.

438
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, like the pain is not

439
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: something I like to embrace. But I mean, like Boom

440
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: will tell you, I had like such a complex about

441
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: this from my whole twenties, Like was that were you

442
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: scared of the pain or the well both, I guess right,

443
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: because like the poop is such as the pain, I

444
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: was like I could take it. Yeah, there's such a

445
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: pot of poop. And I've prepared poorly several times, and

446
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: I look forward to now, like just committing to this

447
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: is something I enjoy and this is how I prepare

448
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: for it and not just winging it. Mm hmmah yeah,

449
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: no, no no no. But the same time, it's like I

450
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: have to give gray I get. I also give grace. Now.

451
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: It's like whenever anyone feels they prepared and they obviously haven't,

452
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: I just give them the grace that I know I

453
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: would want given to me, you know what I mean.

454
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: And this is the only way I'm even close to

455
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: a Christian. It's like I give grace when it comes

456
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: to bottoming. I hope to receive grace if there's a

457
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: little bit of poop at the end. Guess what we

458
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: just fucked in our assholes. So it's actually okay and

459
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: no one's gonna be dead. Like there's so much like

460
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: like this, like weird like ick factor around poop during sex.

461
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: And I believe we talked about this recently. Did we

462
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: not bo of what I've just poop? Being president? That

463
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: ick factored on on during sex about repoop? Yeah, we have,

464
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: we have, we have, yeah, And it's just like it's gotta,

465
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta end the stigma. Well, the only

466
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: thing I I understand the shame around pooping, like let

467
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: it go. And I was able to do that, Like

468
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: if I should on a guy, I'm like, you're the

469
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: one with your dick in my ass, Like this is

470
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: that's where I do that. It's like the actually the

471
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: primary use of that is that so it shouldn't be

472
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: a surprise. And I've had boyfriends really handle it very

473
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: perfectly and not make me feel bad. Change the bed

474
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: sheets while I'm in the shower still and I come back,

475
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: it's like a fresh bed. It's like it never happened.

476
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: It's like really sweet things. But the thing that bumps

477
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: me out is like it smells like ship in the room.

478
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, like if you like the second the ship

479
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: smells introduced to sex, it like makes me it makes

480
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: you lose your guy loses erection. It makes me like,

481
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I like it's the smell. But

482
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: if you got if you lost your smell in COVID,

483
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: then it's really no problem. That's the benefit of losing

484
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: it all the anal I want, that's the benefit of

485
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: that's the benefit of COVID. Yeah, just silver lining. Now

486
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: I get anti vaxers, They're like, well, I'm hoping to

487
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: get it, so my sense of smell goes away, so

488
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't smell poop when I get fun in my ass.

489
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, anti perspective, that is the one I

490
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: will allow. I have one friend who is scared of needles,

491
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: and I have one wants to have anal sex with

492
00:23:51,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: a banda and the smell like ruined the mood. Were

493
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: you on an island recently? Are? Yeah? We talked about

494
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: this because we we we weren't following along the saga necessarily,

495
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: But tell us what's what's happened on the island. Yes,

496
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I um, well, I can't talk about what I was doing,

497
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: but I was, well, I I can't say I was

498
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: I was on a show there. I was doing a

499
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: new show and sell me a new show on location,

500
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: which is like the greatest time of my entire life,

501
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: just like being with a big group of people, meeting

502
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: new people. We we there's no COVID in it came

503
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: in Islands on Grand Camons, so we quarantined for two

504
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: weeks and then we were free to roam about the

505
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: country at our late leisure for two whole months making

506
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: a show. And it was a show that I signed

507
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: on for because I just it just fit with everything

508
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: I want to do in life, Like it just was

509
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: like I after COVID, I was just like I only

510
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: want to do things that are like fun and weird

511
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: and just seem like an adventure. And I was scared

512
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: to go because it's just like I was just scared

513
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: to be social. I was scared to be somewhere where

514
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: like the world was open again and like I have

515
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: to be social and make friends and but in terms

516
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: of the work, I was just in a zone where

517
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: it was like I had no nerves about it. I'm like,

518
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: I've got this, Like I they made the right choice

519
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: with me very confident going into it, so I was

520
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: able to just have so much freaking fun and uh.

521
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: And I lived in the Cayman Islands and then the

522
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: show wrapped and I didn't want to go home. I

523
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: just stayed alone. I met some friends like I've met

524
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: like my makeup artist. I became really good friends. So

525
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: I made some friends that were able, but I just stayed.

526
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't let it go. I just like stayed on

527
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the island for two weeks in this joke hotel that

528
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: was like sweets are usually four thousand dollars a night,

529
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: and I got them for six under a night, which

530
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: is still a lot of money. But like, I was

531
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: living large in the Cayman Islands for two weeks by myself,

532
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: just like processing what I had been through and being

533
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: grateful and just dreading going back to the States, like

534
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: to wear masks again and then and then now I'm

535
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: back to the grind but and live in St. Louis.

536
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: But it was it was just the best location is legit.

537
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: It's like summer camp. God, wow, have you guys ever

538
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: done that? Have you ever been on like a thing

539
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: somewhere where everyone's kind of there for just a short

540
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: amount of time. I'm about I'm about you, but it

541
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: sounds like a fucking dream. It's if you're with the

542
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: right people and find your right group, it is. It's

543
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: like it really is summer camp. It was so fun

544
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: and I'm with a bunch of people that have been

545
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: doing this forever, so I'm like, is this like the

546
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: best and they're like, you'll get you, You'll see. But

547
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I was having I was so enthusiastic about it, Like

548
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: this is the life I want because I guess just

549
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: traveling all the time doing stand up you never are

550
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: somewhere long enough where you learn where you're you are,

551
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: you know the coffee shop, you like to go to,

552
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: the restaurants, and like you just the people are always different.

553
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: And I was just like it's just so nice to

554
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: like show up to a place and like they're the

555
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: same people and like, I don't know, I'm just stand up.

556
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting back into it, but I'm

557
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: making it a whole like my tour. It is just

558
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna be me with a caravan of friends. Gotta gotta

559
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: keep it as fun as possible. I'm not doing any

560
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: more work. That's not fun. I can't write, but I've

561
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: only just I'm only just now able to write. Are

562
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: you like booked up as it like one night in

563
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: this city and then the next night and another and

564
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: the next night and another. Are you giving yourself some

565
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: grace days? Because when we tore it was kind of

566
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: we always say like, oh, we wish we had spent

567
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: we've been able to land for like at least two

568
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: or three days in this one spot, Like it's important

569
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: because you make the place, and you're like, why did

570
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: I travel if I wasn't going to actually like at

571
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: least be there for two days and at least have

572
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: one day in the city and then one night out

573
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of a restaurant or like a club or something or

574
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: bar or whatever, like are you giving yourself that? I

575
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: think it's a really good idea, but I just don't

576
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: know that I can make it happen because I want

577
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: to be home when I'm not working like I would like.

578
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have some sort of place that I

579
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: can call home, and if I do that too much,

580
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: I'll always be on the road. So it's just like

581
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: two cities in one weekend then I'm home the rest

582
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: of the time. But it's like I don't know, I'm

583
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting to the age where it's like this is

584
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: getting old. This just like working every night doing standardating sets,

585
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to live that life, and like

586
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: ants like I will definitely always do stand up and

587
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: always do specials and work really hard when I'm working

588
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: on one. But this, I'm so glad for me that

589
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: COVID maybe like figure out what I could do at

590
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: night besides stand up or fill my life with besides

591
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: running around doing podcasts. And it really is just opening

592
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: my computer doing podcasts and then uh and and and

593
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: but not doing zoom shows, like but watching TV, going

594
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: to like eating dinner and then like going to bed.

595
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: I've never done that in the seventeen years I've been

596
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: doing stand up comedy. Is just like have an evening

597
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: in if they're stand up, I will be at it

598
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it anymore. Entired, No,

599
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: because this is the thing in this new show that's

600
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: out Hacks on HBO Max. This this this Jane Smart

601
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: character like is a Joan Rivers like Philistiller type who

602
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: like has just has has never stopped working in her

603
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: in her life and and then like it's got me

604
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: to rethink the whole way. Like people talk about like

605
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: the art of showing up or whatever it's like, but

606
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: showing up is actually like overrated in some ways, especially

607
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: especially after you put in the hours and you like

608
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: and you paid your dues and all that, Like, at

609
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: a certain point you have to decide for yourself, oh,

610
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do uh to quote Chad Michael's

611
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and Paul's drag Rays the Chicken chick gigs, I'm not

612
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: gonna do like that stuff. It's well, you know what,

613
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: you really need a period of yes before you can

614
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: realize what's too much? Like I had that like when

615
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I was on my on the grind and like in

616
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: our twenties bow like when it was like doing a

617
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: ton of ton of ton of ton of ton and

618
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: then you just realize, like you have only slept for

619
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: five hours the night before or maybe combined, like your

620
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: sleep your average of sleep is like six seven hours

621
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: for like two or three days. Do you know how

622
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: good it feels to sleep eight hours a night? If

623
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: you can do that, you can figure that out if

624
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: you have the time and availability to eat well and sleep.

625
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: It just makes you a more like valid human being.

626
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: It's just so much easier. So like I get people

627
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: are like, you know, whatever, self care has now become

628
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: like like a sort of ghost thing to say, because

629
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: it's like everyone's saying in self care, everyone's talking about it,

630
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: but they got a fucking point because you know that

631
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: is something that quarantine lets, you know, is it's like

632
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: sometimes that pace of living, if you're always tired all

633
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: the time, is not normal. It's not normal. And the

634
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: self care thing, we it needs to be trendy because

635
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: we are Americans work so hard that we need The

636
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: only way we'll adopt something is if it is trendy

637
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: and like the cool thing to do, because we don't

638
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: like ourselves and we value ourselves based on how much

639
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Speaker 1: output we do and how much we protect. Like can

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Speaker 1: say that we work so that we can deserve the thing.

641
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Speaker 1: We can't eat the thing unless we go to the

642
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Speaker 1: class and then we can't and we can't. I can't, um,

643
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Speaker 1: I mean, my whole life is a reward system. I

644
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: can't enjoy my I can't sit down and watch TV

645
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Speaker 1: if I haven't done anything all day, Like I can't

646
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Speaker 1: take a nap unless I'm desperate for a nap, and

647
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: it's like, why can't I just lay down because I

648
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Speaker 1: want to. It's like I'm I'm really into that stuff

649
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: now and because it feels so good and that's what

650
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: we're meant to do, so I think we have to

651
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Speaker 1: make it like trendy, so anyone does it because I'm

652
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: tired of people thinking it's cool to be tired and

653
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I used to be that way. It's like of like,

654
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: how much you didn't sleep and it's like you shouldn't

655
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: be here, you're drunk. I don't want to hear how

656
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: the p A is underslept on the show because he's

657
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: driving a bus of people and he doesn't know how

658
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: to drive in this country or what you know what,

659
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Like there are things there's like sleep deformation is really

660
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: fucked and we're all walking around with it and are

661
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: you know the screens are doing ship to us too.

662
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: It's like I love sleep, but sometimes I'm just like

663
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Speaker 1: the every day you wake up and it's like another

664
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Speaker 1: full day of NonStop work and you when you get

665
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Speaker 1: to the end of it, you just don't want to

666
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: go to sleep because you want to do you want

667
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Speaker 1: to be awake for some relaxation and then leads to

668
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: more sleeping, Like sleeping is not what I want to

669
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Speaker 1: do when I'm most tired for some reason. And that's

670
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Speaker 1: actually the most sucked up thing, because it's not every

671
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: night that that happens to me, but some nights it

672
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: is that thing where it's like, well, I've earned some

673
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Speaker 1: some reward for for all the work that I've put

674
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Speaker 1: in today and and and most of the time it's

675
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Speaker 1: just better to just know shutdown. But wait, okay, hold on,

676
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Speaker 1: you want your you want your dates down to be

677
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Speaker 1: like you're bringing friends, Like what's like describe like an

678
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Speaker 1: ideal night like in in some city like with who Yeah, well,

679
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Speaker 1: I always have my podcast uh co host Andrew Colin.

680
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: He's my best friend. He's my roommate. I moved him

681
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Speaker 1: from New York City where he was. We were always

682
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Speaker 1: working together and he's on my radio show and he's

683
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: a stand up comic and he's hoping for me on

684
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: the road for a couple of years now. I moved

685
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Speaker 1: him to St. Louis because I was living with my

686
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: parents the whole pandemic. I wanted to move out of

687
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Speaker 1: their house, but I also could not be alone. I

688
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: just know that if I'm not doing stayd up every

689
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: night and like socializing, then I could be alone. But

690
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: so I was like, Andrew moved to St. Lewis and

691
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: started this podcast with me, so every day I do

692
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: this podcast with him now. So when we're going on

693
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: the road now, I'm like, Okay, Andrew's opening for me,

694
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my um my other best friend, Anya Marina.

695
00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: She's amazing singer, did a lot of grades and animal

696
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: songs back in the day, like she did her cover

697
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Speaker 1: of t I s whatever you Like is the hottest thing.

698
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was a sand before I was a

699
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Speaker 1: friend and it's so sexy and um She's just she's incredible.

700
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Speaker 1: So she opens for me. She opened for me on

701
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Speaker 1: my last tour, so she'll be there. She's just like

702
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: a calming presence. She was my tour manager last time though, too,

703
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: and I and I made a change the time. I'm like,

704
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: I'll pay you the same, but you're not tour managing

705
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: because I want you no stress. I want you doubt

706
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Speaker 1: to hang and be like my emotional support friend. And

707
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Speaker 1: then I'm also I also might start getting into town

708
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Speaker 1: the day before and during the day of my show,

709
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Speaker 1: I might do Taylor Swift sing alongs where I play

710
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Speaker 1: guitar and everyone comes, like to a cafe. It's like

711
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: free for like swift ease, because I don't I'm playing

712
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: guitar now and singing all the time, and I just

713
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Speaker 1: want to sing Taylor Swift with other Swifties. So I

714
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Speaker 1: might do swift e meetups also come to the right place.

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Speaker 1: You know that we are about Taylor Swift so badly

716
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: because no one gets it, like like I know that

717
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Speaker 1: you guys do because I heard I heard your one

718
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Speaker 1: where you covered folklore. I think it was I think

719
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: it was right with folklore. It was so just nuanced

720
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: and really came from a perspective of of two people

721
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: that I know love her as much as I knew

722
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: would really appreciate her. And so yeah, I just I

723
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Speaker 1: know that as a thirty six sooner be thirty seven

724
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Speaker 1: year old Swifty, I would want to go somewhere and

725
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: sing with a bunch of other girls. So even if

726
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: it's bad, which I'm not good at guitar, I'm like,

727
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll all saying, it will just be so fun. It

728
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: just I was doing Taylor Swift Dance Party storying with Covid.

729
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: I would just do a playlist and we'd all just

730
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Speaker 1: dance on zoom like hundreds of people, and it was

731
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: so fun because I just I just she really makes

732
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: me happy, and I like, like I listened to I

733
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Speaker 1: have to, Like, I watched her Grammy performance now before

734
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Speaker 1: I go like on a podcaster if I'm on my

735
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Speaker 1: way to a set and I'm like kind of nervous

736
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Speaker 1: and want to get into like my energy of being

737
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: like I got this, I'm a pro. Like, I watched

738
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: her latest Grammy performance because it's just masterful and emotional

739
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: and raw. Uh yeah, she just gets me in the

740
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: right place. She goes into Willow and August, so yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: she's Yeah. She started on uh Cargan Cardigan, August Willow.

742
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: When she snuck August in there, I was like, thank

743
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: you for giving August the moment, the live like Awards

744
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: Show moment, because August was obviously on an album full

745
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: of highlights, like it was the highlight of absolutely was

746
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: the highlight and just a song that is resonated with

747
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: me throughout. At the first moment I heard it, I

748
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: have meet me behind the mall is like canceled my

749
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Speaker 1: plans just in case you call back when I was

750
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Speaker 1: living for the hope of it and meet me behind

751
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: the Oh, it's so heartbreaking and like it's just it

752
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: has this Christian it's it brings the bridge in very

753
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: soon and then it doubles down. Is brilliant that it's

754
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: all over the place and it's so good and it's

755
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: and you're right, like the Pond Sessions didn't give me

756
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: what I wanted. Even though Jack anson off during August

757
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: on this Pond Sessions it's hilarious, but I wanted a

758
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: like full I wanted her standing up off of a couch,

759
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: you know, like then that gave it to me too.

760
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: But August was my my number one Spotify play like

761
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: it was. I couldn't stop and I and I still

762
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: play it all the time. I just I just sang

763
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: it with my friends. I made my friends come over

764
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: and stick it with me in the courtyard. I think,

765
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: where in this in this weird zone in terms of

766
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: swifty age, where when you guys get on board? I

767
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: was on board ever since Fearless. Yeah, I would say

768
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: that when I started to when I started to become legit, legit,

769
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: legit was probably the tail end of red and then

770
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Speaker 1: into any night. So I was a little. I was

771
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Speaker 1: a little I guess late. I know that there's like

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Speaker 1: hard course make lee title. Yeah, but but when I

773
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: tell you when I joined the bandwagon, I joined it

774
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: hard like it was like her masterpiece. I actually I

775
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: stand reputation. I stand we are this is a reputation house,

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00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: this is this is one here thank you. I a reputation.

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean the whole album. I celebrate, there are no

778
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: doubts on it. I was just on a subreddit, Taylor

779
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Swift subreddit, and they were ranking her songs by album.

780
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Taylor swifties don't we'll never say

781
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: anything bad about Taylor Swift, like you know, like they

782
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: we can you know, stand culture, you just don't, and

783
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: that they do the surveys some teenager made it was like, uh,

784
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: like you're not. They didn't say least favorite, but it

785
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: was like, uh, it started with there was some way

786
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: they did it so that you wouldn't be saying it

787
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: was your least favorite or something like that. But it's

788
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: so they're so nice and I love swift ease and

789
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: that's why and I feel like I'm one. I just

790
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift ninety nine dropped and hearing, and I went

791
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: to a Read concert and I got into Read a lot,

792
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: but there was just something about nine nine and then

793
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: going to that show, I just and then reputation was

794
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: for me, what just like, uh, where is this? You'll

795
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: never be the same, Nikki, because you are her delicate,

796
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: her delicate same for the best. It steals my it's

797
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: my alarm every morning. I don't get rich sick of it.

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00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I I do not get sick of that song. It's

799
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: just it's disgusting. And I don't know about you, but

800
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: like you said, like and I want to ask everyone

801
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: what their favorite live Taylor performances, but this is one

802
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: that so I might be the biggest. I know you

803
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: probably do, but there for me, there's two. One. There's

804
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: a live performance that she did of Treacherous, which is um.

805
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: It was like um, she had like her bangs and

806
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: are like her like liberal artist. The kids are sitting

807
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: and she's and she is like she's just explaining it

808
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: in the beginning and then does it and then it's

809
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: so good. Her vocals so great. But my favorite performance

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00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: of hers is Wildest Dreams from the tour, which is

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00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: a uh I believe it's a mash up. Oh my god,

812
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: it enchanted Wildest Dreams mash up because I'm telling you,

813
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: she sings the Wildest dream Bridge over and over like

814
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: three extra times, and then she does the chorus at

815
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: the end, and that she gets it from the piano

816
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: and starts doing her white girl stomp and she's giving

817
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: you her hips and she's just given. She's so Taylor.

818
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: And I also like, for me, my favorite type of

819
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: song is like an emotional ballad that lifts off like

820
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: I Wildest Dreams to me, is I did that thing.

821
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have done this, but

822
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: like they'll like UM do like the march madness the

823
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: brackets with her songs, And no matter what I do,

824
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: wild the Streams always wins. And I know that no

825
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: one else is saying that but me. But Wildest Dreams

826
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: to me, is it? I just got into Wildest Dreams

827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: like a month ago. I know, I know, it was

828
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: just one that I like, was like, it's great, I

829
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: know it and I could say it, you know, I

830
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: know all the lyrics, but I just really for her.

831
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: I gotta feel that I have to go through what

832
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: that I need. I seek out her songs to feel

833
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: my feelings. I can't get there really otherwise. So I

834
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: will go through when I'm going through a heartbreak or

835
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: feeling like the industry is, I'll find the song and

836
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm and wildest dreams. I was just like seeing, like

837
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: will this fit my mood today? And I go, holy shit,

838
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: every aspect of what I wanted and it was just

839
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: like this. It was like, it's like porn for my emotions,

840
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: Like it really just like got everything out that I needed.

841
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: And then the music video where she has the h

842
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: but I can't wait to watch that lie. I haven't

843
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: watched that live performance because enchanted. That is so good.

844
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: And do you know that it was written about the

845
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: lead singer of that one band that did I Get

846
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: a Thousand Hugs from ten Thousand fires Flies lead singer

847
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: about Sliddy? She met him at a party and she

848
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: she wrote that song about him, and then by the

849
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: time of she was like super famous and he found

850
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: out it was about him, and he like slid back

851
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: in and he like, I think wrote a song or

852
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: recovered it. He covered it to day her attention again

853
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: and she never acknowledged it's what's your Number? One? She

854
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: had moved on. My number one line is a tie between.

855
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: But they're from the same they're from the same concert

856
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: quote unquote, which is her Grammy's Museum performances. What I'm

857
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: talking about. It's but it's the acoustic version of blank

858
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: Space and then and then it's the fucking like just

859
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: like Jeff Buckley guitar version of Wild the Streams, and

860
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: like both of those. She's just and also like this

861
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: is so shallow, but her look was so perfect. She's

862
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: just in a black and a black mock neck, black pants.

863
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: Her hair was perfectly like just brushed and like gentle

864
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: curl up, like curl up around the frame of her face,

865
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: so poised and just perfect and confident. And she's had

866
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: the Grammys too, so she's like she's she's like, she's

867
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: at the top. Yeah, it was Imperial phase. We always

868
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: say the star burned brightest, not not that. And the

869
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: thing is she has had this many times because she's

870
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: very good at reinventing sort of Madonna ask in that

871
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: way where it's like, you know, there's just a constant

872
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: sort of reinvention happening with her and especially now with

873
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: essentially Nymph in the Woods culture that's happening, which we

874
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: love like which in the woods moment, uh, but that

875
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: was so she was really hitting it at that show.

876
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the blank space I really love I have.

877
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: She she does the enter she goes and she's talking

878
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: about like, you know, I'm getting ridden up all the time.

879
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: It's really fun. She's she's really so like we live

880
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: been obsessed with my love life and paying attention every detail.

881
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: It's really fun. So imagine, like, what if that character

882
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: that people think that I am wrote a song and

883
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: it just I guess I never thought of that song

884
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: that way, and it's that song is so great because

885
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: I've started doing that version of that song, like I

886
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: learned how to play a guitar the same way and

887
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: and I and I'm like, I'm not good at the

888
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: singers whom I'm not as good a guitarists. But I've

889
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: been working on the performance of it, and I was

890
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: listening to thinking about the lyrics, and I'm like, I

891
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: love this song because this song is this woman psycho.

892
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: And she starts out so nice, nice to meet you

893
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: where you've been. Oh my god, I can show you

894
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: incredible things. But then she's like, I'll find out what

895
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: you want I'll be that girl for a month. Oh wait,

896
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the worst is yet to come. But she's saying it

897
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: with a smile, and then it gets into like crying,

898
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: screaming doors and it just becomes crazy and like she

899
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and she acts as out obviously in the music video

900
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: and it was a very like very heavy handed good

901
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: message but that I miss but I just love that

902
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: this now I'm realizing, like, Okay, if I'm going to

903
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: perform music, I'm not that good at singer and guitar,

904
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe I can bring some comedic value to it of

905
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: like unpiecing this character of who this girl is. So

906
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: it's like I've been trying to explore her songs that way,

907
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: just analyzing the lyrics because there's no one better than

908
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I'm so so I'll get to

909
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: my favorite live performance. Sorry for all of that, I

910
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: will have to say. I can't get over the I

911
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: cannot get over the camera fucking with her eyes she

912
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: does on Betty the American Country Music Awards Acoustic showed

913
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: up at your party, and she's like, guys, watch go

914
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: back and watch that, and like she is looking a

915
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: camera like I felt I was like aroused by it

916
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was like, so, I just

917
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: love her very acoustic, and her outfit for that was

918
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: very toned down. She did her own makeup. But then

919
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: if her Cornelia Street, Um, the Paris one I really

920
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: love because of that city screams your name, that like

921
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: you that she reaches, it's like it's like more rugged.

922
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: I just yeah, but literally every single one, she just

923
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: can't go wrong. And she's gotten so much better with time,

924
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: and it just it's fun to watch her old stuff

925
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: because I didn't get into her until so late and

926
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: just see just you know, I feel like I feel

927
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: very I relate to Taylor Swift a lot, and I'm

928
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: just scared she's going to have kids because then I'll

929
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: stop relating to her. No, no, no, I don't think

930
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: she's so aware. She's so in touch with like what

931
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: people like about her that I think she'll She'll never

932
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: be she'll never lose that self awareness in terms of

933
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: like how it translates, how it translates to her music,

934
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: or how she connects to her her listeners. Um, but wait,

935
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: talk about your personal history with Taylor Swift, especially the Swifties,

936
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: because because because there was that like weird time when

937
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: it felt when it felt like volatile and hostile, right,

938
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: and like I like I've experienced this with swifties too,

939
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: or like they've come after me. They're really really sensitive,

940
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: and that's what I was. I was anticipating them being very,

941
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: very angry at me. They didn't come at me because

942
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I got ahead of it before they could figure out

943
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: who I was. But I really ended up. So I

944
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: was in the trailer for Miss Americana that dropped, oh

945
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: a week before We Americana came out the documentary on Netflix,

946
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: and I at midnight the trailer dropped as a swifty.

947
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: I pulled it up and in bed watching it, and

948
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I hear my own voice and I was just like,

949
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: it's during the part of the documentary that's like like

950
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: where she she's like I had to go away for

951
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: a year and it's like a bunch of people saying

952
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: shitty things and me being like she has all these

953
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: model friends, she's too skinny. It's like, I don't like it.

954
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: It's just me just being not funny, just like and

955
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: it's my voice. I sent it to all my friends

956
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you, guys, I'm even the Steelership documentary

957
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: and they're like that is not you. You would never

958
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: say those things, and I'm like, I know it's me.

959
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: Of course I would because like I I know that

960
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: I used to mouth off about her because I was

961
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: so like wanting to be her, and I felt like

962
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: now she's a model, and now she's it's like the

963
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: thing I just said, I don't want her to have

964
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: kids because I will relate And I'm like, now you're

965
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: friends with the only hot deeds, like you're I'm losing you.

966
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: And that's part of loving someone so much is you

967
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: sometimes do say something teasing them, like the one that

968
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: we stand, Well, it's because so I get what you

969
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: were doing. But yeah, and it was the same though,

970
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: like I love her so much, I felt I was

971
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: losing her. Two models into that, Like I thought I

972
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: was gonna lose her and so I was gonna shame

973
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: her for it. That she'd come back to me the

974
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: way like my my best friend Kersen in high school,

975
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: Like like when I found out she was like blew someone,

976
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: I just like I cried and cried because I was like,

977
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: I lost you, like I didn't. I can't do that.

978
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to do that and

979
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: talk to you and relate to you anymore. So that's

980
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: how I felt about Taylor Swift being skinnier than me.

981
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: It's like, honestly and like being so like well quoft

982
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: and shiny and like model, like she's alleged she could

983
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: be a model, like a runway model, you know. And

984
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: so I lashed out on some dumb show and then

985
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I uh, I waited a week, and during that week

986
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: I couldn't listen to Taylor Swift music. I was just like,

987
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: I've done my girl wrong. I don't know how bad

988
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: this is going to be. Like I just the thought

989
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: of her made me like sad because I was like,

990
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I hurt her, and I didn't know what the impact

991
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: was going to be in terms of like how I

992
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: come off on the secondary what else? I said. I

993
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: didn't even look up the clip, and I'm like, I

994
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: don't even want to know. It's what's done has done.

995
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: My agents and everyone were like, don't make this thing

996
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: because you know, we don't want to upset her or anything,

997
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Like I go, can you can you find out what

998
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: part of this? They were like, we're not gonna say anything.

999
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: So then someone got a pret screener and was like,

1000
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: you're in it and I was like, oh God, damn it.

1001
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: And I finally watched it and it was just it

1002
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: was a clip of me. It wasn't my name. They

1003
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: didn't use my name like or like you do a

1004
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: chiron for me, but it's my face and it's a

1005
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: video of me going, she's just all she has model friends,

1006
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: she's too skinny. It's like, come on. It was just

1007
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: just me being like just a little bit like bitching about,

1008
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: like gossipy and not funny. Like if it was funny,

1009
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: I could even justify it, but it wasn't and I

1010
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't even then. So I just felt really sad, and

1011
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: I caught a couple like hateful d m s but

1012
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: not like from people who really did their work. And

1013
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: then all day I was like I couldn't even feel

1014
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: my feelings because I couldn't listen to Taylor Swift to

1015
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: process what I was feeling about Taylor Swift because it

1016
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: triggered me so much to be like, I don't listen

1017
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: to this person that probably hates me. And so I

1018
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: was like walking around the city. I didn't know what

1019
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: to do, and I was like, I have to apologize.

1020
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go through my agents because I

1021
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: thought that they would probably be so scared of even

1022
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: talking her that they'd tell me that they wrote late Senator,

1023
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: and then they wouldn't, and then I wouldn't lie about

1024
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: it because to protect me in because they're liars and

1025
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: so um you know when they lie for a living.

1026
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: So I I I just decided to put out a

1027
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: picture of me and a Taylor Swift shirt and then

1028
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: write a caption being like, hey, I was in this thing,

1029
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: and I thought it was I thought it was a

1030
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: perfectly written thing. It wasn't trying to like protect myself

1031
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: from Swift because they weren't really coming after me. It

1032
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: was honestly to make like to have a chance of

1033
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: getting this in front of her eyes, because I thought,

1034
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: maybe she'll see this and she'll know that I am

1035
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: someone who struggled with eating disorders and like the fact

1036
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: that I may have contributed to hers and anyway by

1037
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: commenting on her body like was and and and then

1038
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: then I admitted to just being jealous and I thought

1039
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: it was And then she she wrote a comment back

1040
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: and I literally can't even remember what it was because

1041
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I saw it. I couldn't look again, like it was

1042
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: too much like I just like was like thank you, Taylor,

1043
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: and then I was like I don't even know what

1044
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: it was, and so that, and but the way she

1045
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: wrote it was like so like, oh my god, this

1046
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: means so much to me, Like it was just that

1047
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: you said that. I think, I think because you know,

1048
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: the thing, the thing that I think sometimes we forget

1049
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: about people that are this big is that like they

1050
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: do have the Internet and they are human beings, and

1051
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: the thing is like, you know, especially I think when

1052
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: someone is like really funny. I I think for for

1053
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: a lot of musicians too, they look at like funny

1054
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: people as like people that have like some sort of

1055
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: like uh I on the whole thing, and like when

1056
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: whenever a comedian makes fun of them, it's always like, oh,

1057
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: it's their job, it's a comedian making fun of me.

1058
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: But also there I think there's an insinua. There's like

1059
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: probably a false insinuation that comedians are like smart or

1060
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: all seeing or we'll call out the thing that everyone's thinking.

1061
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: So there is that thing of like, oh, comedian made

1062
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: fun of me, Like am I this thing? And so

1063
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: I think like for you to own it like that,

1064
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: even if you didn't need to, even if it was

1065
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: just like something you tossed off and like you did

1066
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: not need to beat yourself bad. I think she is

1067
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: a human being. Was like, oh, this like cool, funny,

1068
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: gorgeous comedian that like you know, may have bothered me,

1069
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: like owned this went out of her way to do

1070
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: this and be like, I have such a respect an

1071
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: admiration for you. I'm sorry. And she did reply very thoughtfully,

1072
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: and you could tell that she wouldn't have just said

1073
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: that had not been something that was really meaningful. And

1074
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was great, Thank you, and

1075
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I honestly want to take this opportunity to address another time.

1076
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: I talked to Taylor's that it was before Miss Americana,

1077
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: but it only came out after Miss Americana, So I

1078
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: felt like if she could have seen it, like it

1079
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: was only after my apology and then I take this

1080
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: wing before so but it's like bonus, exactly what you're

1081
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: saying of like the people you love so much and

1082
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: you know the most about you, have the most opinions

1083
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: about you as a comedian and maybe make the most

1084
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: fun of. But honestly, when I did Dancing with the Stars,

1085
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: I kind of signed up for that because I like

1086
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: there was a part of me that was like, Taylor

1087
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Swift makes like kind of white girl dancing, like not

1088
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: like King, you know, like in the shake uh you know,

1089
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: shake it Off video. It was like she was like

1090
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: people accused her of appropriating, but she was just bad

1091
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: at She wasn't that good at some in some of

1092
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: those dances. It wasn't but it looked fun and it

1093
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: was fun to watch, which is what dancing is. It

1094
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's bad. But the truth is Taylor Swift

1095
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: is actually a great dancer. She is. So I did that.

1096
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have my knowledge when I said that. So

1097
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: in a couple of interviews, I said the fact that

1098
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift can be a bad at dancing and own

1099
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: it and I love her so much and I like

1100
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: watching her bad dancing, And I didn't. I was speaking

1101
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: from a place of like assuming she was bad dancing,

1102
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: but not really having seen it. So someone I a

1103
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: fan of mine, met her and she and this is

1104
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: before MS Americana went backstage and said, I Nikki Glazer

1105
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: loves you? Do you do you know Nikki Glazers comedian

1106
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: that loves you? And she goes, is that the one

1107
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: that says that my badcing inspired her, and I was like,

1108
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: so Taylor's heard me say that, and that makes me

1109
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: so sad because I want to if so, if anyone

1110
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: out there listening to this knows Taylor Swift, will you

1111
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: let her know that the truth behind me referencing her

1112
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: being a bad dancer and stuffect that I'm a bad dancer,

1113
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: And so I projected that onto her, not knowing how

1114
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: good she dances. Then I saw her her video delicate

1115
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: and that bitch can dance, and she that girl can

1116
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: do anything she puts her mind too. And then I've

1117
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: also seen reputation like since then, I've immersed myself in

1118
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: her live performances, which I hadn't before, and knowing what

1119
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: I know from Dancing with the Stars and how hard

1120
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: it is to dance, that girl, the fact that she's

1121
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: able to dance as good as she can and everything

1122
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: else as good as Again, she's a very good dancer,

1123
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: and I would never compare myself to her again in

1124
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: the dancing realm. At this point in her career, I

1125
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: think Taylor Swift must understand or have some empathy towards

1126
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: the people who make any swipe in her not that

1127
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: not that you saying that she was a bad dancer

1128
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: was a swipe. And the people who make a swipe

1129
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: at her, it is a projection. They are seeing her

1130
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: is this test they see what they want to see

1131
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: out of her. When when this like she knows, that's

1132
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that. But this this girl gets revenge.

1133
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: She has driven by that. And I remember, like she

1134
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: wrote a whole song mean about someone saying that she

1135
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: couldn't sing, you know, so for for me and as

1136
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: someone who is very similar to her in that way,

1137
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm projecting onto her that like the fact

1138
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: if someone were to say something like that about me,

1139
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: it would stick in my crap. I would remember it.

1140
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: She she thinks of a bad dancer, like I actually

1141
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: thought it was really good and delicate. And the truth

1142
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: is you were and you are a good dancer, and

1143
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I hadn't seen that yet. So and she

1144
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: doesn't take jokes about herself well as you know, untouchable

1145
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: in terms of that, like the line in that Netflix show,

1146
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: do you remember that? That was the whole thing? And

1147
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: I think that was a little like I understand where

1148
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: she's coming from. She's like tired of the same jokes

1149
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: being made that she dates a lot, but that was

1150
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: like a that that I was like, wow, okay, you

1151
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: know what. She definitely was probably upset my dancing thing,

1152
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not sensitive to I I honestly think, yeah,

1153
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely indicative of a sensitivity that

1154
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: we obviously know is there because but it's an interesting

1155
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: thing with her because we we know her as like

1156
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: being two things. An incredibly sensitive person and that makes

1157
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: her such a great artist, but also an incredibly smart

1158
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: and shrewd businesswoman and like someone who is very in

1159
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: charge of their brand and very smart about their brand.

1160
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: And I say this not in a pejorative but calculated

1161
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: about the way that her business is done. So when

1162
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: those two things are both true, I think it's almost

1163
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: hard to reconcile. And I do think that the thing

1164
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift is like for anyone in the millennial

1165
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: age group or or or a couple of years out,

1166
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: she is probably the biggest pop star of our time.

1167
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: And so with that and end the knowledge that we

1168
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: are living in the age of social media that really

1169
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: took over during her rise to being number one, and

1170
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: how she stayed there, there's a lot to negotiate, So

1171
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: it's like the way you talk about celebrities, especially the

1172
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: way you talk about women, the way you talk about um,

1173
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, the way women have conflict with each other,

1174
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: the way that they negotiate those conflicts. I mean, it's

1175
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: just a lot, and there's a lot to learn about

1176
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: her red the way that she's consumed by the media

1177
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: and the populace that probably could be like a college

1178
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: course taught on this. Honestly, she's living experienced only the

1179
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: Beatles and Michael Jackson, like she's living in such I

1180
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: can't imagine what it would be like to be her

1181
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: and for her to crank out these songs that are

1182
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: still so relatable with her life as such a megastar.

1183
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Is is really says something about her character. But I

1184
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: mean I even feel it. I remember recently someone I

1185
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: was like like romantically involved with us, like teasing me

1186
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: about my looks in a way that I was just like,

1187
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be called I don't

1188
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: want any like jokes about my looks. I really feel

1189
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: like it's it's and it's just like I don't understand that,

1190
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: like you're the most beautiful, but like you know, that's

1191
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: a total joke. That I would say, you look like

1192
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: that thing that you don't even like there was He

1193
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: just couldn't understand that I would ever feel ugly, and

1194
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: I go, or that I would feel hurt by this

1195
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: absurd comparison, right, And I go, well, because I grew

1196
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: up like I felt ugly as a little girl, I'm

1197
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: still in that and I've accepted myself and I like myself,

1198
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: but I can't handle being mocked for my like features.

1199
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: And it's not that I can't handle it. I get

1200
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: it everywhere, like I do get it when I've signed

1201
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 1: myself up for a roast. So there's been like jokes

1202
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: that have been presented that are really hurtful to my

1203
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: feelings that are repeated over and over on Twitter and

1204
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: YouTube comments, and it's just like comparing me to Larry

1205
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Bird or you know, Owen Wilson or saying like you know,

1206
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: horse face, stuff like that. You get that all the time.

1207
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, don't read the comments, and I just

1208
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: I fucking so easy for you to say. And the

1209
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't read comments. I don't I haven't

1210
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: read a YouTube comments. It's two thousand eleven, Like I'm

1211
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: not kidding you. I don't read comments. I have to

1212
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: read through Instagram stuff to interact with fans. I have

1213
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: to read tweets too. That's if you can't avoid it.

1214
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Even if you avoid it. The ship, Yeah, the ship

1215
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: gets through that filter anyway, of course it does. It

1216
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: gets through it anyway. And so I said, I get

1217
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: that all out there, but for someone that was him,

1218
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: not understanding what it's like to be a public figure

1219
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: and to be mocked, and and I come off like this,

1220
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: like I only want everyone to like be nice to

1221
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: me and kind of me. It's like, well, I think

1222
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: I deserve that because a lot of people get to

1223
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: be vocal about how they hate me more so than

1224
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: a normal person. So celebrities tend to want to be

1225
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: held like handled with kid gloves by the people closest

1226
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: to them. And it kind of makes sense. It's and

1227
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: on Taylor Swift's level, I can't even imagine what that

1228
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: would be. Every it's people that love you. It's me,

1229
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: Nikki Glazer, who's your number one fan? Like those it's

1230
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: it's must be you can't you must turn on the

1231
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: TV going. I hope there's not a joke about me.

1232
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: That's what probably happened with Jinny and Georgia that show.

1233
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: She probably was enjoying that show and then has suddenly

1234
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: taken out of it because this show thought of her

1235
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: as like presented her as something that she's not, and

1236
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: it's like that would hurt. That must have been the

1237
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: reason why she she tweeted about it was I bet

1238
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: because I just realized that because I go, why is

1239
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: such a venom? But it's like she wanted she was

1240
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: like trusting them to be nice to her and take

1241
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: her on a journey from her own life, like that's

1242
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: why we watched dramas like and then all of a

1243
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: sudden they're making fun of you. Fuck you, So I

1244
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: get it. Um. I was just going to comment on

1245
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: that with Matt's comment about the millennial sort of aspect

1246
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: of it being being sort of like tied to like her, her,

1247
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: her her identity, and like the way that we have

1248
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: any discourse about pop stars. It's interesting now because I'm

1249
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: talking to not even talking to anybody, but I'm just

1250
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: noticing that, like these new people that are coming up,

1251
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: like Girl and Red, there's she's a great Norwegian singer,

1252
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: um girl in Red and like Olivia Rodrigo, Like guess

1253
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: who's their number one inspiration. It's tail. I love it,

1254
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: but I love I love what we're gonna get. What

1255
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get exactly. But what we're getting is like

1256
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: this other generation of people who are inspired by here.

1257
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think by and large that younger listenership is

1258
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: like not does not have all this crazy these these

1259
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: they don't have all these weird hang ups about who

1260
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: who she dates and and what, like what her personality

1261
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: is or who her friends are. It's like they're just

1262
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: there because they loved her music. They listened to it.

1263
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: They listen to is like a seven year old let's say,

1264
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: and now and now it's and now they're fourteen, and

1265
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: now they're like, oh my god, Like it's like we love.

1266
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: Like it's like the way that I relate to the

1267
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: Spice Girls because I was seven when I when the

1268
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: Spice Girls first came out. And I will never say

1269
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: a bad thing about the Spice Girls ever, you know,

1270
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: it's like that's what that's what's coming up now, and

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: like I think it's cool. And then I was talking

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: to Celestium. They're they're they're writer snal they just turned

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: twenty five of their baby um and I was like

1274
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: you like and uh, they're they're a lesbian And I

1275
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: was like, you like twolor stuff right, and they're like,

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: I love Taylor Swift to know it's like and I

1277
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, okay, Like what's with all these like

1278
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: these like kids liking Taylor now? And they were just like,

1279
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: I think it's code for um. It's it's code for

1280
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: Dike energy. It's like you are like, um, you like

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: you have the sensitivity or this like awareness of your

1282
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: own emotion. Oh my god, that checks out for all.

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean. I've I've recently felt like I might be

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: in love with Taylor Swift the way I was in

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: love with Dave Matthews in high school. Like she's kind

1286
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: of set me on this course of like I want

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship, like I want to protect her,

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: and like I would like love I could. I could

1289
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: probably date Taylor would I can. I can appreciate the

1290
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: fact that she would not want that from me, but

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: I if she did, I would be down. And I

1292
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: don't and and and that makes me open to being like, Okay,

1293
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 1: well if I can love her them like it's maybe

1294
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: I'll be. But but it's funny because the my adult

1295
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: friends that I've recently been like, hey, do you like

1296
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm always king for other swifties to like heyn't talk

1297
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: swift with like and and the ones the girls I've

1298
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: met recently have been yeah, yeah, there's a whole, there's

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: a there's a lot. She has a very very strong

1300
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: lesbian fan base, and obviously she's I think she's got

1301
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: a very strong queer fan base. And I think that

1302
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: probably the last time she was discussed in like a

1303
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, negative way, um was when the Lover album

1304
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: came out, and it felt like there was some pandering

1305
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: going on, which is an interesting time because I do

1306
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of I roll coming from

1307
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: her queer fan base because it kind of felt like

1308
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: we already loved you, we didn't need you to do

1309
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: all of this. But then it's like interesting because to

1310
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: slow you to roll just a second, like at the

1311
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, Like, isn't it ned positive that

1312
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: she's like I am standing up, I say, like all

1313
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: queer people, you know what I mean. And still we

1314
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: were being snarky about it because I think it did

1315
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: have I think we've all been trained as we've as

1316
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: we've gotten older, you know, and sort of understood how

1317
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: marketed to we all are. We've sort of been trained

1318
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: to what I always say, noticed the pepsi cans for once,

1319
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when you walk into

1320
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: a room like and you're being given some entertainment, like

1321
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: how many fucking pepsi cans there are? Like I like

1322
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: to just sort of notice that, so I know when

1323
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm being marketed to. And there was the whole sort

1324
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: of like you know, Chase Bank Pride float a thing

1325
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: going on when it felt like she was doing this

1326
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: like queer support thing. But at the end of the day,

1327
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: it's like all we ever wanted this girl to do

1328
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: was stand up and take a stand for what was right,

1329
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: and she finally did, and we have something snarky to

1330
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: say about it again, like and then I did. I did,

1331
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: So I did sort of get um. I thought that

1332
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: she tackled it really responsibly and as well as she

1333
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: could have. In the Miss Americana documentary where she sort

1334
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: of explained what she was up against. I thought the

1335
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: comparison to the Dixie Chicks or now the Chicks was

1336
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: really apt, like the way it completely changed their um,

1337
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: their experience in the music industry and therefore changed their

1338
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: fans experience with them, you know, it's incredibly difficult. And

1339
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: so I think that was an interesting time for her,

1340
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: the lover era, which I don't even know. It feels

1341
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: like it was pretty glossed over, like in the grand

1342
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: scheme of the way Taylors things. Um, but that was

1343
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: that was a weird time. That was a rocky time

1344
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: for the fans and and Taylor, especially queer friends and Taylor. Yeah,

1345
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: that's really interesting. I love to hear the perspective because

1346
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: it did feel like, what what is this anthem? Like

1347
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: the end, and I really was bothered, not bothered, but

1348
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: I thought she should have done um hate never made

1349
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: anybody less gay, not shade. Shade felt like kind of

1350
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: like minimizing what it is that people are doing. So

1351
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: that choice, I was like, that could have been harder.

1352
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: That was the only note that I had as someone

1353
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: not uh like that didn't identify as queer at the time,

1354
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: and in my someday don't don't currently well up for you.

1355
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: So watch this Definitely they're oh, they're they're definitely mixed up.

1356
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: And I there are times I'm just I think I

1357
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: want to kiss her, Like there's she's just so like,

1358
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: so there is that vibe for me. But the um,

1359
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: the the whole lover, what was it going to say

1360
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: about the oh, the fact that she is someone who

1361
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: you did say is calculated, Like she wants everyone to

1362
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: like her. I mean that's what Mr mcconnor was about,

1363
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Like she has that drive to get everyone. She wants

1364
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: to make her fans happy. She cares so much about

1365
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: her fans, she really does. So for her to be

1366
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: able to take that chance of alienating whoever might not

1367
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: like her stance on you know things like actually, yeah,

1368
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: they to do that was I don't know if I

1369
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: would have thought Taylor was capable of making that kind

1370
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: of um decision where you cut off, like if you'd say,

1371
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, when she spoke out about Trump, I was

1372
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: just like, finally, but that's not easy to do it

1373
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: at all. And he was like I used to be

1374
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: a fan. I like her fifty less. I'm like, you

1375
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: stop listening tails her. It made me mad that he

1376
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: would ever hear a song. It was like, dude, shut up.

1377
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: But ever, because the thing too is like and we

1378
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: talk about how you know she can't turn on the

1379
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: TV without her, they're potentially being a joke about her,

1380
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: like she knew that he would say something when she

1381
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: said when she said something, you know what I mean,

1382
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: It's like, this is the kind of president who like

1383
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: he would love nothing more than to get into it

1384
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift. But I feel she she genuinely thought

1385
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: she got to the end of the line of being

1386
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 1: able to be like complacent about these issues, like because

1387
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: you like, ultimately there was a right and wrong there

1388
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: and she she knows that, and she came out and

1389
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: said that finally, but again she knew the risk she

1390
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: ran by doing something, which is he's gonna fight with

1391
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: dad that doctor. I'm going to do it Dad, And

1392
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: they're like so they're just the money they see like

1393
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: flying out of their pockets like that. That was It's

1394
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake and people aren't willing

1395
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: to take that risk. I do love though, that what

1396
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: you said about how we don't need her to be

1397
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: dating around and holding hands with a new guy, and

1398
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: like I'm happy with her like off in a cabin

1399
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: with Joe on like these hikes, these like private hikes.

1400
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't know anything about the relationship.

1401
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: I only have a little bit of footage to analyze

1402
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't need that from her. It's not part of

1403
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: it for me, which I do over and over. But

1404
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: I love the Yeah, I'm just like happy that she's happy.

1405
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: I want them to last, I want them to work out.

1406
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: And the fact that she's able to write songs like

1407
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: heartbreak songs just as well, like which is what she

1408
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: said in the Tiny Desk concert about Death by a

1409
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: Thousand Cuts, like I'm happy, so can I still write

1410
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: breakup songs? And so she just reads a book about

1411
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: a breakup and and she's so she soaks up so

1412
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: much feeling that she can just put that into a song.

1413
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: And the fucking Betty august uh Cardigan trilogy, like that

1414
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: whole story, Like who knew a year ago that she

1415
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: was capable of I mean, I knew she would be,

1416
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: but I didn't even know I wanted that from her.

1417
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: I was kind of mad when I heard it was

1418
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: like characters and not her. And then they're my it's

1419
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: my favorite thing she's ever done. Maybe, Yeah, that that

1420
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: trip Tyke of songs. Yeah, because it is because the

1421
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: details just being in the easter eggs and each thing.

1422
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that that is actually genius. You just

1423
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: like that she was able to make you empathize with

1424
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: each character in it, and no, the victim was always

1425
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: or the person that was you just made you this

1426
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: love triangle seem I don't know, it's just no one

1427
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: was the villain and it was all and they were

1428
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: all so and they all actually are kind of the

1429
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: same song. It's just she's she's masterful, masterful. And so

1430
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: I feel that now we've got a very good sense

1431
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: of the culture you're currently consuming. It has made you

1432
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: the person you are today. But we have to ask

1433
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,959
Speaker 1: the question, which is the central cornerstone question of lost cultures,

1434
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: which is Nikki Glazer, what was the culture that made

1435
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: you say culture was for you? I E what this

1436
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: means is what was the pop culture that entered your life?

1437
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: And you're like, you can pinpoint now looking back, that

1438
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: was the moment I changed, and I can see myself

1439
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: now as the person I am. That's where my that's

1440
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: where I came from. It was There's so many things

1441
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: in my head right now, but I have to go

1442
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 1: with my initial Okay, friends was mine. When I found friends,

1443
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: I was like, when I heard Tanner say how many

1444
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: cameras were on you? Like that kind of joke of

1445
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: like the camera at Bells, how many cameras were on you.

1446
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: I were just that joke is like that is so funny,

1447
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: and then Jennifer Aniston just like I, whatever that is,

1448
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be it, like I want that, and then

1449
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: like going after it forever. But in terms of like

1450
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: comedy wise, like feeling like, oh my god, this is

1451
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: for me and no, it's I've never that's when I

1452
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: became friends. When I being obsessed with being like being famous,

1453
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: like being on TV, but comedy wise, like Conan was

1454
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: the first time I go, what the fuck like that is?

1455
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: This is special and weird in a way that I

1456
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know anyone else wanted to laugh at

1457
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: stuff like this, and it just felt it felt I

1458
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: was obsessed. I was, like in high school's obsessed with

1459
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews and Conan O'Brien. So that was the major

1460
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: one for me. It was the ten It was a

1461
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: five year Anniverse three special of Conan that my dad

1462
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: showed me on like you know, VHS and he recorded

1463
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: it was like, Nick, I think you'll like this, and

1464
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: I was like, and my friends and I became just

1465
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 1: obsessed with that and just the weird, just the weirdness

1466
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: of it. It was like, you know, it was like

1467
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: Tim and Eric before Tim like that kind of like

1468
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: looking avant garde comedy and like and like you've been

1469
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: and like you have this friendship with him now and

1470
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: like what like what like that's probably surreal, like and

1471
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: has it and and that and like does that make

1472
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: the influence even like stronger for you? Because yeah, I

1473
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: think so, Like, uh, it's hard because I it's hard

1474
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: being friends with someone you like that much, or like

1475
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: I can't even say I'm friends with him. He would

1476
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: probably were. We've done enough podcasting and like been on

1477
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: the show enough that we have a rapport. But I

1478
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: always black out when I'm talking to him, like I

1479
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: would imagine function, Like I really can't keep it cool.

1480
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: And I always have to just tell him what he

1481
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: means to me because he's just so self deprecating, Like

1482
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: I need him to know that he's the funniest person

1483
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: in the world and I've awarded him that and there's

1484
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: no debate and it's the he is it. And uh

1485
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: so I just spent a lot of at the time,

1486
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: just like you know, just telling how much I love him.

1487
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: And it's like we can't really get much done sometimes,

1488
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: so some I feel annoying him. Sometimes I I don't

1489
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: even I don't want to know. My heroes don't. I

1490
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: can't handle. Sometimes it's better to not and and I'm

1491
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: not not because they like I'll just say so. The

1492
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: person that this was for me growing up was Margaret Show.

1493
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: And so when we we early on in doing this podcast,

1494
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: got the opportunity to go interview Margaret Show. And we

1495
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: went up from from from New York to Nayak where

1496
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: she was doing a show, and we went in our

1497
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: hotel room and we were interviewing her, and it's you

1498
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: could tell it's early for us because we're so nervous.

1499
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I was. She saved my life

1500
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: when I was like when I was in middle school.

1501
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: So but when I'll tell you I was, I was pacing,

1502
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: I was like rearranging the chairs. I was like we

1503
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: have I was. I couldn't believe it. I was just

1504
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Margaret Show just means so much to me. And so

1505
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: we got there and the interview was going okay, and

1506
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: there were because we were young, and I don't think

1507
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: we could really relate to her yet. And so I

1508
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: not that we ever could, but like I could tell

1509
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: listening back, I only ever listened to it once. It's

1510
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of like that tell herself comment for you, it's like, okay,

1511
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: I know we corresponded, and then I'm moving on. But

1512
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: there was a point in the interview where I told

1513
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: her what she meant to me and she kind of

1514
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, thanks, that's nice. And then I remember

1515
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: being like I remember I had the impetus to be like, no,

1516
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: but do people tell you that, like do you hear that?

1517
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: Is that something that you know that you you're hearing?

1518
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: Your voice and your comedy made people feel seen to

1519
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: a point where like it really mattered, And she was like,

1520
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: and I get with her. Boyfriend Rocco was there at

1521
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: the time to doing the interview as well, and he

1522
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: was looking at her like I could tell he was

1523
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: telling her like absorb this, absorb this, like it's okay

1524
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: to absorb this, and she was just like, it's really

1525
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: nice that you say. Then we kind of moved on.

1526
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: But it's interesting that you say that, because I had

1527
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: that too, Like when someone is you know, you could

1528
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: tell trained to be a little self deprecating or just

1529
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: be like no, I'm actually not ship, whatever, move on.

1530
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you are you are, you are? You

1531
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: are you are and if I can, like, I'm not wrong, right,

1532
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: I know, and I want you to know like I am.

1533
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: It is not up for debate, like you are, please

1534
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: know this, And you try to and it's almost like

1535
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: because you're talking to yourself, because you know that feeling

1536
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: of someone you Guys have have met people that just

1537
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: are so excited to meet you. They're shaking, crying, like

1538
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: you mean so much, you know, and and it's hard.

1539
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to take that in because you're like, I'm

1540
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: just a person. I just took a ship, like I

1541
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: know that, like you know, like I just you just

1542
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: feel like you're but but it's it's just hard to

1543
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: hear compliments and not go like like you just want

1544
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: to push away. So I understand that, but I also

1545
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: want so desperately for for him to under to know

1546
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: it because they deserve to, and because we're not wrong.

1547
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: We're we're so small that we like them and they

1548
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: need to know that we're like not just any any fan.

1549
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: We are we like know our ship, yeah, and we

1550
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: like But I think Conan is the type of person

1551
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: to like accept that better than better than others, right,

1552
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't know. I feel like

1553
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: that's very nice. That's really you know, it's it's he

1554
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: wants to move on. He's very coomfortable with compliments. And

1555
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: that's why I feel bad because I can't help it

1556
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: and I make him uncomfortable, like he doesn't like it.

1557
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Why do I continue doing this? But it's it's it's

1558
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: essentially because like I always all right, this is crazy.

1559
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: I'll be vulnerable about I'll be vulnerable about this. Like

1560
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: if I ever have a situation where I'm on Kelly

1561
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: Clarkson's talk show, they shouldn't let me on because I'll

1562
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: sit down and it will be a thing of like

1563
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: I'll hyperventilate, like it will go viral, because it's like

1564
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: crazed faggot makes himself like like full spectacle on Kelly

1565
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: Clarkson show, Like it will be bad for whatever I'm promoting,

1566
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: like it like it won't be good because like I

1567
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: associate with her, her with the time I needed her

1568
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: so badly, and I my love for her has never

1569
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: went to the point where it's like I don't see

1570
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: a world where I could be normal talking to her,

1571
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: so to have that person and to have a relationship

1572
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: with that person is like it's crazy. Yeah, I as

1573
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: you're talking, I'm thinking of meeting Taylor Swift and it's

1574
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: just it wouldn't go. It wouldn't. I've met her before

1575
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: before I was obsessed, and right now it just wouldn't.

1576
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: I thought Dave Matthews once and it didn't go well.

1577
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: I it was that Matt I just like really embarrassed myself.

1578
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: And and this was a couple of years ago when

1579
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: I really had enough accomplishments to be like I deserved

1580
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: to meet you, you know, like this was my goal

1581
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: was to get it. I even said that to him.

1582
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the reason I even do comedy because

1583
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to like get into your sphere so I

1584
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: could meet you. And I used the words spear like

1585
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: really like bother it. It was such a weird, like

1586
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: it was the there was a whole other thing that

1587
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: happened before that. But I was really embarrassing. I wasn't cool.

1588
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to meet him a gun like it's

1589
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a good look. It doesn't it's

1590
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: not worth it, Like I I can't I can't be

1591
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: myself I will never be myself in front of those people.

1592
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: But you gotta get a COLICARC said, I mean, I

1593
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: feel like we clipped this and send this. I'm gonna

1594
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: send this to a producer there because you like the

1595
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: thing is like she would make you feel comfortable. She

1596
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: would make you feel comfortable. I mean, bowen, you'll be,

1597
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: You'll be just like I was like a gay kid closet,

1598
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: a kid in like sixth grade when she was on

1599
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: American Idol, and I just remember I was just so

1600
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: when America fell in love with her for being herself

1601
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: that I kind of said to myself, I was like, well,

1602
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe one day people will like me for being myself.

1603
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: And I really was. It was. It was like it

1604
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: was just hard. It was like a time where I

1605
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: was realizing I was something that um no one aspired

1606
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: to be. It was like very much that time of

1607
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: like gay was the worst thing you could say. It's

1608
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: someone I'm from Long Island. It's for a toxic and

1609
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 1: so just to see someone be so obviously themselves and

1610
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: like be beloved because they were a good person and talented.

1611
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, at least I know it's

1612
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: possible that like someone could fall in love with you

1613
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: just because you're you. And I think just throughout my life, like, um,

1614
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: I've always listened to her music to come from me,

1615
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: and I also do think she reminds me of a

1616
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: younger version of my mother, to be honest with you, um,

1617
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: in terms of her energy and the way she looks. Um,

1618
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: So there's something there. But but yeah, I mean like

1619
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: it's just it's that, that's what it is. And we

1620
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: actually like I went to her show. I've seen her

1621
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: live eleven times Bowen and I went to the View

1622
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: one time because she was on it. That's the whole thing.

1623
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: When Joel Kim Booster was on Kelly Clarkson, he's one

1624
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: of my best friends. Like I went in the audience

1625
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: and like I was taking pictures of him. I put

1626
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: a picture of Joe, Kim, Kelly and Jennifer Hudson on

1627
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: my grid because it was one of the best days

1628
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: of my life. Like I went, I went back to

1629
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: say hi to him after. I couldn't have run out

1630
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: faster because I thought he was trying to like punk

1631
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: me and have her come in. I was like, gotta go.

1632
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: It was like really don't want it. Yeah know, well

1633
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: I know Bowen's gonna be on it like any day soon,

1634
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be able to watch. So yeah,

1635
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: but one's gonna do Kelly Clarkson any day a day.

1636
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, what were you on that you got

1637
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: to go? That you put on your grid? What was that?

1638
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: So it was when Joel Kim was on Kelly Clarkson

1639
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: to the Sunny Side? I went as his guest in

1640
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: the audience, and I was no, I did get to

1641
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: go backstage, and I said, and I thought he was

1642
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: trying to like pull one on me, And I think

1643
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: he might have been, because I'm telling you, I went

1644
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: back there, hugged him, said you were so good, babe.

1645
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm out, and so I'm I like, I could not

1646
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: have ran out faster because I was like it would

1647
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: have been so like him. No, I do want to

1648
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: meet her. I just said, like, not not backstage at

1649
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: her show because my friend is on the show, you

1650
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it has to be like

1651
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: a thing, like where where I have I'm meeting her

1652
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: with intention at this point because I have to get

1653
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: my thoughts together, like it can't be a surprise, it's

1654
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: Kelly thing, because it won't be cute you know what

1655
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I completely agree, and I did. That's what

1656
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: happened with Dave Matthews. I had a chance to meet him,

1657
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: and I took it, and I wish I wouldn't have,

1658
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: just because it wasn't the circumstance under which I was

1659
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: able to express how much he meant to me. I

1660
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 1: went to a listening I was invited to, like a

1661
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: listening session where you sit in a room at Serious X,

1662
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: because I was I had a radio show there that

1663
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: you were both on, right, Yeah, yeah, and matt you

1664
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: came in separately another. Yeah that's right. Okay, So love love,

1665
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: Sorry to night. Uh she's so great. Um So I

1666
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: got asked to do like go to a listening party

1667
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: where literally Dave matth Is just sits in a room

1668
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: with like ten people from Serious that somehow fago to

1669
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: ticket to this room and he presses play on a

1670
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 1: thing like you just listen to it with him, Like

1671
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: he's not playing it, You're just like listening to it.

1672
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: So it's like you're in a it's awkward and it's

1673
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: a new album and you just like sit there and

1674
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: like like pop your head in this kind of cold

1675
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: conference room with and you know, Baba Booie from Howard

1676
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: Stern was there and it was I was excited to

1677
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: be there, but like and I'm looking at Dave Matthews

1678
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: like leg like like his his denimed knee, just being

1679
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: like that's me, like I thought about that, Like it's

1680
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: just like I'm putting. I am like trying to be

1681
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: on my best behavior even though like he doesn't I

1682
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: haven't met him yet. I think it took a picture.

1683
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: I think I took a picture of him and it

1684
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: was quick and I didn't have time to like say

1685
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So it's just like my face is disgusting.

1686
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: It's like unpostable, even though the best moment of my

1687
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: life because I couldn't keep my face together. And then

1688
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm in this listening session and I'm keeping my enterty

1689
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: like I am really holding it together but not well.

1690
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: It's like just like almost boiling out of me. But

1691
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be very cool and like not blackout.

1692
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: And then he gets so part where it's like wrapping

1693
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: up and he's like he's like, Okay, we only have

1694
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: time for one more song, Like you guys want to

1695
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: hear something soft and sweet or do you want to

1696
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: hear something a little funky, and I was like, finally

1697
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 1: answers the question. I'm like fucking like I like my

1698
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: voice said it's so loud that everyone jumped. And then

1699
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: he played something soft and sweet and I swearing he

1700
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: ignored it and like, and it was right in front

1701
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: of it was like four ft away, so I was

1702
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: like I thought, was so close to him, and everyone

1703
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: be literally Baba Buie from Howard started like Gary Talbot

1704
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: slowly put his hand on my shoulder, like you need

1705
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: to get it together, like this is embarrassing. Like that

1706
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: was weird for everyone. And I'm not someone who ever

1707
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: wants to make anyone. I don't want to be like

1708
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't want you to notice me unless I'm making

1709
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: you like happy, and so for to be like the

1710
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: object of like oh, it was so huge in front

1711
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: of the person I love the most and it was

1712
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: all just like it just I thought I thought he

1713
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: was gonna be like this girl's cool and she like like,

1714
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: what's your deal? Funcky like and then he's like then

1715
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: he plays a song he wrote about like mass shootings.

1716
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was not, it was not You're gonna

1717
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: have it. You're gonna have a redemptive interaction with him.

1718
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I think you will. I'm the voice of d MB

1719
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: Radio on Serious XM, so when you listen to Channel

1720
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: Stars about you. He I'm sure he's aware I am

1721
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: in the sphere, as I let him know after after

1722
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: I said Sunky, That's when I like went after him,

1723
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: waited for him outside the room and was like, hey,

1724
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. I'm really sorry about Like I was

1725
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: just like I just have to say a bunch of

1726
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: things that how much you mean to me spe spears fear,

1727
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: and he was just like okay, and like backed away,

1728
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: very scared, Like I saw like actual fear. And he's

1729
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: like like this girl is unhinged in his eyes and

1730
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I just couldn't control it, And it

1731
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the right time. That would have been funny on

1732
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: camera with like a big like to do, like like

1733
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: if you went on the Kelly Clarkson Show, Matt and

1734
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: and had that moment, had that around it, it would

1735
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: be appropriate. But this was just so uncomfortable. It's funny

1736
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: that you mentioned serious because they got at when Serious

1737
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: like finally did when Kelly finally did Howard Stern like

1738
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: I did the after show. So I was like there

1739
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 1: in the building like like like going on the floor

1740
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: on the aftershow right after she was leaving Howard. And

1741
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like I had the opportunity because she

1742
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: was coming out and I'm sitting there in like the

1743
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: lobby in New York and like I was about to

1744
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: go in, Um tear started coming to my eyes and

1745
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't come over. I was just like I was

1746
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: like I can't because I had to go be on

1747
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: the show. So I was like, I'm not gonna walk

1748
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: in there the first time I made fucking you know

1749
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: all these guys like that I've listened to forever, like

1750
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: because I love Howard, Like I'm not going to go

1751
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 1: in there and be like crying, Oh my god. Like

1752
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: I was like I have to be good and have

1753
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: it together for the Kelly episode of the show and

1754
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: like not be a flop. But I'm telling you, like

1755
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: I've had so many chances to like kind of go

1756
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: up there and be like I just wanted to tell

1757
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: you I'm such a big fan. You mean so much

1758
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: to me, and I'm just like, I literally I start

1759
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: to lose that every time. So I when do you

1760
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: have who's this he's cool. He's cool as a cucumber though,

1761
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:59,480
Speaker 1: But no, not really, not really. I mean it happened

1762
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: when Tina, and that's kind of like a really that's

1763
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of like it's such a it's such a

1764
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: complicated thing, but it was. It happened with Tina and UM.

1765
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: And at one point when I was shooting Girls five

1766
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: Evan in January, like Matt work Grow, our friend who

1767
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: wrote on this episode that UM I did, was like,

1768
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: by the way, Tina is gonna come. Tina and Jeff

1769
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: are coming into the studio. They want to say hi,

1770
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool, and then I just

1771
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: spun out in my room for like twenty minutes, and

1772
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: then they finally invite me to set and I'm like, okay,

1773
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna run into around the floor. That's

1774
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe even better so that like she just sees me

1775
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: like in in my element or whatever. And then she

1776
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: just laughed and she just left, and I feel like,

1777
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: but then before that, it was when I did the

1778
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: Commischmidt movie and she came over and she just like

1779
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: checked and I completely blacked out and it was the

1780
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: most meaningless interaction to her um probably ever. But then

1781
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: she mentioned me in an interview recently when she talked

1782
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: about the iceberg. I think, I think that's why you

1783
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: get asked to be on her. But I think I

1784
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: have to like keep this distance that I have not created.

1785
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: But that's just been like very like, uh, just just

1786
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: through happenstance has been like that's been what's calibrated. And

1787
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't actually get that much closer to

1788
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: you on a personal level because otherwise it will stress

1789
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: me out. You know, yes it won't and you won't

1790
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: remember it like you'll just it won't go well, So

1791
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: you have to keep away. But but she to hear

1792
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: your name come out of her mouth, isn't that wild?

1793
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: And such? Like it's so weird. I don't even know that.

1794
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know that it's exciting to me.

1795
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: It's mostly just bizarre, and I'm like, whoa. And it

1796
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: means that she's like watching, you know, It's like it's

1797
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: all all this other stuff comes in and I'm like, god, damn, damn, damn,

1798
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: this is actually really fucking bizarre. But then, but but

1799
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: my cone in thing is my freshman year after high school,

1800
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: we became New York City to look at colleges with

1801
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: my sister for my sister. And then the one fun

1802
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: thing we did in New York was to take the

1803
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: thirty Rock Studio tour. And it was the summer, so

1804
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: we knew SNL was out, was out. But then I asked,

1805
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: I was like, as Conan doing a show this week?

1806
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: They go no, the pages go no. But we still

1807
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: went to this and I was actually more excited to

1808
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: be on the sixth floor wherever Conan Studio was. Then

1809
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I was to go to eight age because it was

1810
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: just like Conan there and you saw like like Max

1811
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: Weinberg's drum want like drums like like and I was

1812
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: just like I something about Conan, like staying up past Leno,

1813
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: like suffering through Leno in order to watch Conan was

1814
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: like such an important ritual for me as a kid,

1815
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: and like it did like inform my whole sensibility, I

1816
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: think absolutely, because it was weird ship It was so

1817
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: weird and funny. Oh my god, it took you. It

1818
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: made it okay to just take some real swings, you know.

1819
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: And they had mrs early on, but nothing, nothing ever

1820
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: missed for me because I was just a kid, and

1821
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: like it was just just to take those ships, to

1822
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: have a masturbating bear, to have all those like silly

1823
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: things that like maybe now wouldn't hold up as much

1824
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: like back then, I was like, what the fund is happening? Was?

1825
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: So I loved I love hearing about like, You're right,

1826
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: it's like watching Conan and is why who I am?

1827
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I told them the first time I met,

1828
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: and I go, You're why I do this? Like you

1829
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: made this? And he was just it was because it's true.

1830
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: But to Matt, to hear you say that, Kelly Clarkson

1831
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: like helped you feel like process that and like feel

1832
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: like maybe there was a chance, like when I see

1833
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: when I watched the Billie Eilish documentary and I see

1834
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: girls like being like I'd be dead without you, Billy,

1835
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Like I always go, yeah, really you'd be, And I

1836
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: actually feel i've I've I never related it to that

1837
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: as like a young girl, so I think that that's

1838
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: why I look at that and I go, what is

1839
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: that young girl saying? I would have? But as a

1840
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: as an adult woman, like I do feel that way

1841
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift, like I would have a lot of

1842
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: heart of her of a time accepting myself and like

1843
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: getting to the who I am now with my self

1844
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: esteem and like what I want and how I want

1845
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: to like, uh, how I want to feel and what's

1846
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: okay to feel because of her, Like I really would

1847
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: be a different person without her, And I'm proud to

1848
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: be a someone that is that impacted by people I

1849
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: don't know by art. I like, it's not I don't.

1850
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I am not ashamed of being a just like a

1851
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 1: stay on it. It makes me feel fourteen again, like

1852
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: caring about the loving being a fan that hard and

1853
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: being obsessive, which is like something that I've always been

1854
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I like that it doesn't go

1855
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: away as as an adult because it makes me feel young,

1856
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Like it's the way to keep in touch with the

1857
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: inner child, and that is important. And so many times,

1858
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: uh that comes under attack, you know, especially like in

1859
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: an ugly world, you know what I mean, Like in

1860
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a world that's like dark, and I I that's something

1861
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that I mean, I mean, I think that's one reason

1862
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: why we still love doing the podcast so much, because

1863
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: this podcast can be a celebration of like loving what

1864
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: we love um And so that's why I like to

1865
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: have conversations like I know that Bowen and I like

1866
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: love to have conversations like the one we just had

1867
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a place to come here and

1868
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: not feel like you have to be like, well, my

1869
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure is No, it's like there's no that's that's

1870
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: never the frame never, and it's just it's that's there's

1871
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: not a lot of space spaces for that. And that's

1872
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: when I do look for other swift Ease. And I

1873
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: wear a lot of Swift merchandise, not because in t shirts,

1874
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: not because I'm like I want to promote her, but

1875
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: because I like want to find other swift Ease. It's

1876
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: like I'm peacocking for friends because I'm like, I want

1877
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: more people in my life like I would really when

1878
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: I look for like a boyfriend, I'm like, I really

1879
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: need you to like Swift, Like I don't want you

1880
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 1: to just tolerate it. I will play that song to

1881
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: to make you get through your feelings tolerated Taylor Swift,

1882
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll start to like her because she'll help

1883
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: you with process those feelings that you're feeling when you

1884
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: let me listen to Cruel Summer on repeat. But I

1885
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: mean we never got our Cruel summer video, and I'm

1886
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 1: still waiting. We never did. I will say I hadn't.

1887
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I had an X that I have one X that's

1888
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: a full Swift E and like way even beyond the

1889
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: me or maybe even anyone here, which is crazy. And

1890
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: then another X and another X who didn't lie her

1891
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: because he thought that her he didn't he didn't connect

1892
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: to lyrics he likes. He like the melodies weren't interesting enough,

1893
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: and he quote unquote didn't connect to lyrics. And I

1894
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: was like, I think this might be a deal breaker

1895
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: for us. I was like, I don't understand that ideology. Yeah,

1896
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 1: if you actively don't like Taylor Swift, it would never

1897
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: work with us. Also in that category, Veep. Veep is

1898
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: another show that if you can't if you don't like Veep,

1899
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: if you haven't, and I understand if you haven't seen it,

1900
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: but if you watch it and you're not into it,

1901
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: it's no, I wouldn't. I'd be more I'd be more

1902
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: likely to date a guy that like wanted kids and

1903
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't want kids, then I wouldn't. I think that's

1904
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: a first state conversation, Like I really do have it on.

1905
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: I used to put on a dating profile of like

1906
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: just if you it just cuts the it cuts the

1907
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: people out of my life I don't want. And that's

1908
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: the thing that like TV and music, Taylor Swift is

1909
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: such a personal thing that it's okay if you don't

1910
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: like her, but if you if you're like bothered and

1911
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: like Nicky's doing singing again because my roommate Andrew, he

1912
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: he's told people like like on our podcast, you all

1913
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: think that Nikki is like a fan of Taylor Swift shocks,

1914
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: but you have no idea what it's like to live

1915
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: with someone like that. This is all she and that's

1916
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: part of that is like I'm trying to learn her

1917
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: songs and guitar, so I'm playing them over and over

1918
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: all the time. But um, yeah, she's a major part

1919
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: of my life. She's she's, she's she's folded into every

1920
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: aspect of it. Yes, same here for us, it is

1921
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: time for I don't think so, honey. So this Nikki

1922
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: is the sort of finale of the show where we

1923
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: take sixty seconds to sort of, you know, really come

1924
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: for something in pop culture that we're not as happy

1925
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: with as say Taylor Swift. In fact, we we we

1926
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: were so unhappy that we say I don't think so, honey.

1927
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Name of thing um, I do have one bowen and

1928
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: it is it is interesting. It's in the world of

1929
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: music as well, pop music even. Okay, alright, this is huge.

1930
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many. As

1931
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Whatever bullshit

1932
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: is going on that keeps Little Mixed from happening in America?

1933
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Because is shunning out Bob's Bob after Bob, and I

1934
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: don't know what this dark magic is. I don't know

1935
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: whatever it's going on behind the scenes that keep them

1936
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: from hopping off in America, black magic even because let

1937
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: me tell you something, Confetti featuring Sweedie, Oh my god,

1938
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: the girls have never been stronger. And let me tell

1939
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: you something also, I don't think so, honey. Any Jesse haters,

1940
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: especially when you call yourself a little bit if you're

1941
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: a Little Mixed fan, you support Jesse and you want

1942
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: this for Jesse, and you understand why Jesse. It's fine

1943
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: that she goes and makes new music and had nothing

1944
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: to do with that her leaving the group. That's a sidebar.

1945
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Whatever is going on shout

1946
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: out to my ex should have been a huge hit.

1947
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: Holiday should have been a huge hit. Sweet Melody. I

1948
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: don't understand why it's not number one in America. What

1949
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 1: is going on? Is the payola scheme? You have to

1950
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: ask this question. I don't think so, honey. Whoever is

1951
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: handling them maybe the new new people to Hell in

1952
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: America because they are bob on Bobs on bobs. They've

1953
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: never been stronger as a trio. Listened to acoustic version

1954
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: of Confetti now, I don't think so, honey, And that's

1955
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: one minute wow. I mean they are they have never

1956
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: they've never been better, and that they I will say,

1957
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: everyone is healthier as a result of the recent change

1958
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: with Jesse leaving. We support Jesse, but I am a

1959
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: little mixed Stan I'm a mixer, and I have to

1960
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: say I want them bigger than they are in America.

1961
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: I want to hear them on the radio. There's some

1962
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: value though, and and and and just like a group

1963
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: being niche in away like Kylie Mineo gave up on

1964
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: being like big in America like decades ago, and I

1965
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: think she's been fine. And the US Americans who do

1966
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: love Kylie just make it it feels like it's our

1967
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Little our little not secret, but it's like, oh, she's

1968
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: for us, and she's she's not for the rep for

1969
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: like the general pop of the U s. I. You know,

1970
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I think what bothers me is what they want. It

1971
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: they wanted, I know, but at some point they might

1972
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: not want it. If it's if it does if it

1973
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. Little Mixed Black Magic is such a bop.

1974
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: It is so good. It's about eating pussy. It's so good.

1975
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: Do you feel this one? It is? It is about

1976
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: eating pussy. It's about it's about like I have like

1977
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: eat my pussy like it's it's get on your get

1978
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: on the floor to it's it's all about go down

1979
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 1: on me. For me, it was like, yes, yes, go

1980
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 1: down on Well, now we're sort of I feel like

1981
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: we're in a revolution of you know, women being like no,

1982
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: go down on me like it's it's I mean like

1983
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 1: in the past ten years, I feel like we've now

1984
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: gotten like Nicki Minaj single headedly isn't has now changed

1985
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: at all. I mean now fucking getting your ass eight

1986
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: is is like normal gener not really, it's that is

1987
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: just that's part of the court. That's first base. It's huge,

1988
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: truly it's first Base as eating his first base. Real

1989
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Culture Number thirty three is first Base. Now Bow and Yang,

1990
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: we have your I don't think so, honey. Are you

1991
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: ready to go? I'm ready. This is bo I don't

1992
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: think Sonny his time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

1993
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: We're rebooting Dan Brown book adaptations. There are so many

1994
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 1: things wrong with this. First of all, how are you

1995
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: gonna replace Tom Hanks in anything right? Tom Hanks? Second

1996
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: of all, it's like rebooting this series that no one

1997
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: actually really cares about. It just makes no sense to me, right, Like,

1998
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: there's no there's no like sentimental capital thing to like

1999
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: grow from that, and it hasn't even been that long

2000
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: since the last one. I have no real comedic take

2001
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 1: on this. It's just like it feels like rebooting. Like

2002
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: let's say, I don't know, I don't I can't come

2003
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 1: up with an example that doesn't shut on the actual

2004
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: example for being canceled, you know what I mean, or

2005
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: for being like something that nobody cares about it. But

2006
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's like rebooting um Mr and Mrs Smith.

2007
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 1: We we know what it's just No, people love Mr

2008
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: and Mrs Smith though, but rebooting like it's like it's

2009
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: like rebooting like Grounded for Life, like a solid sitcom

2010
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 1: that a solid sitcom that not enough people can heard about.

2011
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: It's like I loved Grounded for Life. By the way,

2012
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: that's one. Do do we remember Grounded for Life? Yeah?

2013
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: That guy. It was a great guy. I thought it

2014
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: was really funny. I didn't know they were doing this.

2015
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: It's like sexy Robert Langdon. It's like they're doing like

2016
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: the da Vinci code stuff. They're not doing the DaVinci Code,

2017
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: but they're they're doing like the newer books or the

2018
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: prequels and anyway. I just I just read about this

2019
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: in Multuring and it made me mad. Okay, that's my

2020
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: little niche thing. NICKI, do you have something that you'd

2021
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: like to tell? Yeah? I think I do. I think

2022
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: I can fill for six seconds. I just came up

2023
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: with one and um, okay, yeah, I think I got one. Okay,

2024
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: this is Nicky Glazers. I don't think so honey, her

2025
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey. Um

2026
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 1: banking on Olivia Munn and general anything together like actually

2027
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: investing in this relationship, Like, oh, I'm so glad they're together.

2028
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: I think it is. I don't. I don't know if anything,

2029
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: that I'm actually friends with John. I actually I don't

2030
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: think so honey of like commenting on this at all.

2031
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we should just let it do, do

2032
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 1: what it's gonna do, and not not even speculate, just

2033
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 1: run its course. But you know, it's like it's all

2034
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: anyone I know wants to talk about, and I want to.

2035
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think so want I don't

2036
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: want to like get into it. I just started to

2037
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: go away. It reminds Davidson and Ariana Grande, which I

2038
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: did love that like love bombing that happened, and I

2039
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: wanted that so bad. But I just I'm speculative of

2040
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: the circumstances. I want to know so much, but I

2041
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: don't think none of my business. I'm out and that

2042
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: we will respect. Yes, I have nothing else to say

2043
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: because I have there's nothing I want to say. It's

2044
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: not he's someone I know, and I don't want to

2045
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: gossip about. I don't want talk about. I don't want

2046
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 1: to comment on it. We let's just let go. It's

2047
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna it's but it's it can't last. You're you're saying

2048
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: you're saying, with with with the with with the initial

2049
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, you're saying, and I don't.

2050
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to elaborate on this. I just want to.

2051
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: I just want to help you sort of summarize this.

2052
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: You're saying, I don't think so many banking on this

2053
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 1: relationship because it's like the fact that we are invested

2054
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: as like a culture in this relationship is not that

2055
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: we're projecting everything about j Lo and Ben onto Millennium.

2056
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: Olivia may transferred that because we have given up on

2057
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 1: we have given up on a benefit because it seems

2058
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: like they hung out, maybe got on a plane together,

2059
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: but there hasn't been much less and now we want this.

2060
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: We're like, this is exciting and it's it's let's just

2061
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: let's just leave it alone. Let's just let's just I

2062
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: I we we can respect that. I mean, I'm sure

2063
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: the three of us individually have our thoughts on this

2064
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 1: that we can share off. Absolutely. I'm like, we can

2065
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: get a LEVI like, like, I've always loved a Jenny Slate.

2066
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 1: Chris Evan's like, I love any comedian really dating a

2067
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: very very hot person. Yeah, chuckles and chuckle fuckers can

2068
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: be so hot. It's actually real culture seven chuckle hot.

2069
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 1: So whenever whenever anyone is talking to me and I

2070
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: genuinely feel like they're out of my league, I'm always

2071
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: like what and then I remember, chuckle fuckers can be

2072
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: this hot, But they always want to start a podcast

2073
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: with me. They don't want to. They don't want to.

2074
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: They always want to like have me on their or

2075
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: like start talking about like they want to know like

2076
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: how to start doing stand up. Like I get that

2077
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: a lot. And then I've been misled a lot by

2078
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: really hot guys and I'm like, you're out of my league.

2079
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I match with a guy and Ryan, this

2080
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: is no joke. I match with a guy on Riya

2081
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: who is a pop star sensation like I am a

2082
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 1: huge pop star and I he's young too. It was

2083
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: a night where I like made my Riya settings like

2084
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: there and so so I so so so I because

2085
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: my set I I'd never go that low. I don't

2086
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: know what like I was one night, I must have

2087
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: been real horning and be like I deserve a young guy.

2088
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: So I matched with this like guy and I'm like oh,

2089
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: and he messaged me right away. You're the Goat and

2090
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I thought I had no no. I thought,

2091
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 1: but he's a fan. He saw my rose clips recently.

2092
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: He's a child writing me you're the Goat. And then

2093
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: he did a go to moji and I go, you know,

2094
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: thank you. And then he's like, will you roast me?

2095
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: And I was like he likes you, and I go no, no, no, guys,

2096
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: he's he's a little fan and they were like that,

2097
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: and so I said him a roast joke about him,

2098
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: and then he was just like, oh my god, funk.

2099
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about my last name like that.

2100
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's all I wrote it. That

2101
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Speaker 1: was the last interaction. So I get that a lot.

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Speaker 1: But you know, on face value, like this pop star

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Speaker 1: that people that that that people like, um telling you

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Speaker 1: that he's a fan, that he admires your work, that's something.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome, it actually does feel like, but the context

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Speaker 1: is shitty because, um, the setting is shifty because god

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Speaker 1: like Matt's gotten this too. Like the worst is when

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Speaker 1: it's like one multiple guys on Grinder being like this

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Speaker 1: is the summer. They're like, would you mind set reading

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Speaker 1: my packet for SNL insane? And I was just like

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Speaker 1: you got to actually go to prison on the moon

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Speaker 1: or something, because how dare you need to go to

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Speaker 1: that jail in the Marvel universe that's in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the ocean. Yeah, that's what you gotta go to,

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter jail, askabam that? Like where? And I used

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Speaker 1: to have a joke about It's like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to respect me comedically. I don't want any guy

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Speaker 1: to be like, I'm such a fan. I want you

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Speaker 1: to disrespect me sexually like I want you to like

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Speaker 1: I want to. I'm it's a different energy. I am

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Speaker 1: like a guy that's a fan of mine. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm ever. I want my obviously my partner to

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Speaker 1: appreciate what I do and know that I'm get at

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Speaker 1: it and be like, wow, she's impressive. But I don't

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Speaker 1: want that to make them horny, Like I want to

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Speaker 1: make a guy horny by being like I'm like a

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Speaker 1: little I'm like a soft lady and like like I'm

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Speaker 1: just like me nurturing. I don't want them to be

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Speaker 1: like you just owned that, Mike. I'm like, all they

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Speaker 1: should do is get it. They have to get it.

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Speaker 1: They understand it to ye yes. Well, I mean, well

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Speaker 1: you're well on your way because I'm very happy to

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Speaker 1: say we are the podcast that introduced Nicki Glazer to pappers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want an honor is huge. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna send you our merch, which is we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a Taylor Swift sweatshirt. Um, so you have stuff

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Speaker 1: coming in the mail. Um and everyone out there, you

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Speaker 1: gotta listen to the Nicki Glazer podcast. It sounded almost

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Speaker 1: every damn day and one night with Nicky Glazer. She's

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Speaker 1: on tour. Um. You can get some tickets to that.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know what if you haven't watched watched

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Speaker 1: bang In, one of the one of my favorite specials

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Speaker 1: on that place. We have been fans for many many years,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm just so like it. It's truly.

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Speaker 1: It's like when Charlie Pooth deemed me like cool, that

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Speaker 1: is really cool that that people that someone that talented

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Speaker 1: likes me. It means a lot. Oh my god. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Nikki feel free to join in with

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Speaker 1: us right now. But you know, we end every episode

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Speaker 1: with the song, and I feel like it's got to

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Speaker 1: be tast words. So like, what do you need from

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Speaker 1: me you can't kill me Chicken name to listen to

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Speaker 1: the rest of that listen to a reputation the album

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Speaker 1: by Taylor Swift, Bye Bye,