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Speaker 1: a dream test podcast. And when we saw this show,
Speaker 1: we said we're gonna continue with legends. We're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: keep it legendary. And right now we have one of
Speaker 1: the world's famous DJs, one of the best, world's best
Speaker 1: producers behind the scenes of touching every you know, top
Speaker 1: tier artists has had, has had to go through hit
Speaker 1: this man school has had to be in a session
Speaker 1: with him, had to be schooled by him. He's has
Speaker 1: done countless hit records. A sneaker king. Right now we
Speaker 1: are talking about the legendary d J Clark can't make something.
Speaker 1: And we also have his the hony who owns thirty
Speaker 1: six hundred pairs of sneakers. His closet smells like Nike,
Speaker 1: Adidas and New Balance. He's I've seen him want to
Speaker 1: enter their countless times. A lot of people call theirself
Speaker 1: sneaker kings, but nobody's a sneaker king like my man.
Speaker 1: Man he's in the building, makes him goddamn, it is
Speaker 1: hot to here. Goddamnit it is hot. Goddamn, this is
Speaker 1: this is your dream, champce is we are hip hop.
Speaker 1: Remember old D and D Studio. You do not have
Speaker 1: to explain D n D never had a C. I
Speaker 1: don't remember D and D. I have a a C.
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever did I don't remember having
Speaker 1: um uh, what is it called the ternmity? People like
Speaker 1: exterminate exterminate, They never had exterminator D and D big
Speaker 1: up from mere goddamnit for keeping hip hop hip hop.
Speaker 1: We just have him Man and Pete rock on here.
Speaker 1: But before we get into the head, we started this
Speaker 1: things saying that we wanted to keep legends and hip
Speaker 1: hop alive. Today marks our first episode we ever dropped March.
Speaker 1: We don't know we were dropping this episode, but Mars
Speaker 1: was our first episode. We hardly didn't know what we
Speaker 1: were doing. But you with my boy too and with
Speaker 1: our boy. That's right, boy, that's right after us got
Speaker 1: a cold. Joel should go through that. Look, Clark, this
Speaker 1: is how this is how they pour in Parry. You're
Speaker 1: getting that rich. Make sure you get that good slow motion.
Speaker 1: This is how they're pouring in Bowery. We've seen. I'm
Speaker 1: holding the big scene. So Clark, I want you to
Speaker 1: take us to the beginning, at the beginning, what of
Speaker 1: the career, Like, what did you did? You say? You
Speaker 1: don't know him? Right now? You like you like me
Speaker 1: and you're right now I'm interview worry. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. So listen, So did you start as
Speaker 1: a producer first or you started as a DJ DJ?
Speaker 1: I'm a DJ first a thousand percent, like like I'm
Speaker 1: I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, I'm a DJ first.
Speaker 1: That's it. Everything that that's doing is based off for
Speaker 1: me being a DJ first. Okay. And who's the person
Speaker 1: you looked up to as a DJ? Um? I would
Speaker 1: probably if I had to say the most, I would say, um,
Speaker 1: Larry Levine. Um. But but before that, the first person
Speaker 1: I actually would say I looked up to as a
Speaker 1: DJ or I I looked at him, went like, he's
Speaker 1: the guy with Grandmaster Flowers. I think I'm sick Master
Speaker 1: flas my Grandmaster Flowers. Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah, I've never heard him.
Speaker 1: It's thirty nine years old. Yeah he's he's he's the
Speaker 1: legend in Brooklyn. Wow. Yeah, yeah, he's the guy big
Speaker 1: up Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah, he brought me rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. So Clark, you got to meet Biggie
Speaker 1: early on? Yeah? What was that? La Um? It was
Speaker 1: cool because um, you have to remember all of his
Speaker 1: O g s was my man's um on and and
Speaker 1: uh and just and all the guys that were older
Speaker 1: than man. We're so we gotta do with toast man.
Speaker 1: Toast to you for surviving this nasty ass game for
Speaker 1: as long as you have been and out here still relevant,
Speaker 1: So salute to you. Continue to big go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so all of his uh, his old g s was
Speaker 1: my man's um. You know, I'm a little I was.
Speaker 1: I'm older than him. I was older than him, and
Speaker 1: I was also always around popping them. So meeting him
Speaker 1: was I knew he was a dope MC that there
Speaker 1: was nothing confusing about it. Now you met you met
Speaker 1: him early on? You met him, Yeah, I met him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met him earlier Okay, and earlier than the reggae
Speaker 1: deals like when he went to when he was when
Speaker 1: he was on Stretching Noriega, I mean stretching, like I
Speaker 1: knew who he was at that point. Now, Scots the Limit,
Speaker 1: you did that because I did. That wasn't the first
Speaker 1: joint you did, for being right, that would be the
Speaker 1: first joint I did. That was his record, but that
Speaker 1: he was on Junior my Favor Records, that I executive
Speaker 1: produced album with him. We did that together. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go back to that but Scots the Limit one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Thank you brother. And today's let's make
Speaker 1: noisen right anybody smoking? Because how we do it on
Speaker 1: drink chapter camera. I'm gonna joke you man with the horns,
Speaker 1: I'm just a limit. Now big calls you would say
Speaker 1: he wants to beat calls you or how does how
Speaker 1: does this happen? We were on tour and he goes, uh,
Speaker 1: let's start. He wants to make records for Junior Mafia.
Speaker 1: And uh, he goes on, when we come back, when
Speaker 1: we go home, when we come back, just you know,
Speaker 1: bring some music. So I brought some music and it
Speaker 1: was on the bus and we were going through tracks
Speaker 1: for Junior Mafia and he heard it and he wanted
Speaker 1: it for himself. Yeah, and then and then I went
Speaker 1: straight to the studio. Actually, um, like I said, we
Speaker 1: were working on Junior Mafia. Is the idea to Junior
Speaker 1: Mafia's album. We didn't even like have a really set
Speaker 1: plan that this was gonna go down. It was I
Speaker 1: want to make an album on Junior Fia, Mr Lee,
Speaker 1: what's up man? We recorded there's no simple lemonade. Just
Speaker 1: get it. Talk is very Hollywood. We gotta get him simply,
Speaker 1: hollywoodmade this is the but you don't got simple to
Speaker 1: in leminade with just lemonade. Man, just let me just
Speaker 1: lemonade and Fiji water, please, Fiji water with the red top.
Speaker 1: No no, no. So that's your man who was driving.
Speaker 1: He's the best, he's so you do skys the limit.
Speaker 1: You know what happened? Like I said, he was what
Speaker 1: we want tour and I brought him some music back
Speaker 1: when we was going. When we went back on tour
Speaker 1: and he heard it, he said he wanted it. And
Speaker 1: I thought he actually was saying he wanted it for
Speaker 1: Junior Mafia. But then I figured out, or we figured out,
Speaker 1: that he didn't wanted the Genie Mafia at all. He
Speaker 1: wanted it for himself. And uh, I kind of was like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't have it because one I had given it
Speaker 1: to what. Yeah, it was honestly, it was Oxby. I
Speaker 1: think I did tell me that he was alive. Damn.
Speaker 1: I remember him telling you know, it's crazy if a
Speaker 1: story can balls you me and I could you never
Speaker 1: call him alive? Shouldn't come on. That's very true, It's
Speaker 1: very true. It's very true. I'm not the thing about it.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Poppy, but you don't fun it's Panamanian.
Speaker 1: You don't turn the corner. You're gonna starting side. Don't
Speaker 1: we go on the comber that you were fabulous, y'all.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make y'all garden that your name is probably yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know that there's not normal. That's all right, let's
Speaker 1: make some noise to that. So was you there when
Speaker 1: Scott's The Limit was recorded? Half of it. I recorded
Speaker 1: the beat and then it went to um, it went
Speaker 1: to what you call it. It went to to to
Speaker 1: pup studio, and then it came back with the vocals
Speaker 1: and and then it went back again because he was like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna put one twelve on it because he had
Speaker 1: did the hook by himself at first, and then went
Speaker 1: back to get one twelve. And then it came back
Speaker 1: to the studio where I was at that mixed it. Wow,
Speaker 1: but um, he was there for the mix and everything.
Speaker 1: He was so now let me flip and bounce it on.
Speaker 1: You also knew Tupac as well? Yeah, you knew early Tupac.
Speaker 1: Ye just described that, like described the difference from early
Speaker 1: Tupac to the Tupac that you know people know better underground. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in digital Underground he was being
Speaker 1: who he wasn't Digital underground. He was dancer sometimes rapper
Speaker 1: and hype man. You know that's I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He was a happy, go lucky guy. Right. And did
Speaker 1: did you meet the death old Tupac? Yeah? I mean yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's describe it. I know you're talking to me like
Speaker 1: Cacus like that. He looking at me like you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm listening. Just changed from death He changed after
Speaker 1: the incident with the cops. I think na, I mean,
Speaker 1: he definitely it was. It was a change from what
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't the change that I'm asking Clark.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to change, like from Digital
Speaker 1: Underground Tupac to death Row. Drastic change that's changed because
Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're skipping a whole section. And when
Speaker 1: he made records like he made records before he became
Speaker 1: death Row, you know what I'm saying, Like Brenda's got
Speaker 1: a baby, holla for you, hear me, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he was making records that were socially,
Speaker 1: socially good and relative you know what I'm saying, Brendon's
Speaker 1: had a baby. Brendon's got a baby. It's like amazing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There was some things that
Speaker 1: were happening way before he became death Row and he
Speaker 1: was being he was being a rapper, you know what.
Speaker 1: They say that that bishop role changed him that some
Speaker 1: people would say that a lot of people would say that.
Speaker 1: I mean, but he was acting in that role, and
Speaker 1: they said he's he stayed bishop after that. It's not
Speaker 1: that I think what he what He's surrounded himself kind
Speaker 1: of like the people he was around. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the people that that he got around kind of let
Speaker 1: him fall into the bishop character. Maybe maybe, and then
Speaker 1: he was trying to emulate the guys he got around, probably, right,
Speaker 1: you know I mean, and then you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you got tough guys around you, you might
Speaker 1: try to act tough. What was Clark Kent's favorite time
Speaker 1: in hip hop? My favorite time in hip hop? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And hip hop or rap. That's that's so I would
Speaker 1: like that question, like the favorite time in hip hop
Speaker 1: is the whole forty five years that has been happening,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying of problem, Yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: life of hip hop is my favorite because I grew
Speaker 1: up in it. I'm I'm a part of it, and like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's it's anywhere close to done.
Speaker 1: It's a culture. It's the culture and the way that
Speaker 1: we live. Culture is a way of life, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like rap isn't a way of life.
Speaker 1: Rapp is a music that lives within the culture. So
Speaker 1: it lives within the way of life that we live.
Speaker 1: So if you ask me my favorite time and rap
Speaker 1: is when niggas could actually rhyme like what Tom's period,
Speaker 1: I would have to say. I would have to say
Speaker 1: from from the message to um, from the message to
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't the best rhymers were around
Speaker 1: in the in the nineties, but I mean when you
Speaker 1: heard the message, it kind of changed what people were
Speaker 1: willing to speak about. And the funny part is that
Speaker 1: verse that Mellie Mel said in the message is on
Speaker 1: Mel miles first record, and nobody caught that mell reused ever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I thought everybody knew that though. But it's on
Speaker 1: super Wrapping Shots with No State of Mind, blowing to
Speaker 1: the ways of man kind. It's on the end of
Speaker 1: super Wrapping and then and then he used it on
Speaker 1: on the message again. Did you see Mellie mell on
Speaker 1: the we showed recently he said he's better than jay Z.
Speaker 1: He gotta relax. I mean, he's better at jay Z
Speaker 1: doing what you know saying that's a good question. You
Speaker 1: know what, when people say things, you gotta ask him
Speaker 1: in what context of saying and I and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I can say I'm better than
Speaker 1: jay Z. And then and then the problem is most
Speaker 1: people walk away thinking the fund is he talking about?
Speaker 1: He can't rap? Instead I can go get DJ. And
Speaker 1: then what you're gonna say? What is he gonna say?
Speaker 1: Good point? But I don't think you can't say it
Speaker 1: a great point, you know what Mellie Miles. Also, I
Speaker 1: think ild body build up. Yeah, but he keep my
Speaker 1: fight in here they were talking about what just fighting't
Speaker 1: have to do a body? Now just why I think
Speaker 1: fighting like you know what I'm saying, like, but um,
Speaker 1: I think that's dope. I think that as long as
Speaker 1: you're m C you should think that you're you're the best.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta have reality hit you, like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like m C shouldn't have reality hit them,
Speaker 1: rappers should have reality here brokay, come on the beget
Speaker 1: your camera out. Man, Come on, man, why are you wet?
Speaker 1: It's rating shut down fast and furious. So maya. What
Speaker 1: is your favorite time in hip hop? Oh? Man? Um
Speaker 1: like eighties early nineties. I mean I go back and
Speaker 1: I was you know, I had my hands and clubsows
Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah, I was one of the
Speaker 1: many guys that had a little little taste club episodes
Speaker 1: back in the day. So you know jay z twenty
Speaker 1: two twos club episodes. I remember one of my my
Speaker 1: do some left frack. They had a chick and jay
Speaker 1: Z and Big came in that night and they took
Speaker 1: my man's chick and the club and that would happen
Speaker 1: and they came in with just them too. It was
Speaker 1: just dazy and biggie. I was like, damn, Like, well
Speaker 1: we could have jumped in. Here's the he are if
Speaker 1: they walked in and took this dudes chicken. Wasn't it
Speaker 1: was like a bit seat they just made at the club.
Speaker 1: Still but still wasn't you know we gigged on this
Speaker 1: nigger for weeks. He probably it was j and that
Speaker 1: was big and Jay. I mean that that movement was
Speaker 1: that who was that movie thettle we got a sting,
Speaker 1: a little model open another bottom boards shouldn't crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that club, that's who's movement was crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know you had j with the twenty two tools,
Speaker 1: Maria Davis man Wednesdays. That was one of the illest
Speaker 1: parties we ever had. Marina Davis Every Wednesday was legend.
Speaker 1: That was a legend, eaby party. I'm one of the
Speaker 1: few guys have seen Clark about thirty five bottles and
Speaker 1: couldn't walk out the clubs. I've seen Clark about thirty
Speaker 1: five bottles and couldn't walk out the club. I cat
Speaker 1: trying to be trying to heat modest right now. He's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest DJs on the planet. Brother, and
Speaker 1: weren't gonna argue and we're gon, we're gonna respect that tonight.
Speaker 1: We're man, I'm sorry not June. The mafia shot um
Speaker 1: to give money video of money you party to get
Speaker 1: money there with shout the club and that was cool.
Speaker 1: I mean they just walked up to the club one
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon with a couple of dollars and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we shooting for the whole day. Cool, let's make it happen. So,
Speaker 1: you know, to see ship like that happened all the
Speaker 1: time was crazy. But I mean, how did you become
Speaker 1: a sneaker kid? I've been doing this since I was
Speaker 1: ten years old? Man, like collector sneakers. I got into
Speaker 1: sneakers when my mom's brought me a pair of skippies. Man,
Speaker 1: you know the skippies there a dollar ninety nine. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't a skippy really, it was a shoe called
Speaker 1: the Mark five. And my government name is Mark. So
Speaker 1: I thought I was the coolest motherfuf on the planet
Speaker 1: because I had my name on the shoot. I went
Speaker 1: back to the block, got laughed off. The block was like,
Speaker 1: now you wear skippies out out of out of that?
Speaker 1: And after that whatever I had to do what I
Speaker 1: was robbing money from my grandfather sweeping floors to bo
Speaker 1: sneakers and started from then and ten years old about
Speaker 1: that ship would never happen again. And then you Clark,
Speaker 1: how did you become Because I'll tell you what one
Speaker 1: of my boys right now, like you know, because we'll
Speaker 1: be saying college and Fat Joe was cheating, like we said,
Speaker 1: Claud got a cheek co to like. When I asked
Speaker 1: my boy, my boy said, he's probably the only guy
Speaker 1: in the world that could tell fat Joe and DJ
Speaker 1: Kale to relax. My boy said, respectfully, it's probably true.
Speaker 1: But if we say calid yeah, the dance would be yes.
Speaker 1: There's there's no argument that he could say that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. With Joe, it'll be a you
Speaker 1: never know on any day. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I went to high school with Joe, like Joe sneak,
Speaker 1: My lunch room was fat us. Yeah, but I went
Speaker 1: to Joe went to Mars for a year and of
Speaker 1: course he got kicked out and not enough and I'm
Speaker 1: a little sold. You gotta t chain and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know Joe for a long time. I got the rest.
Speaker 1: Got another rest salute the one year Yes you and
Speaker 1: on your one year show when Joe was talking about
Speaker 1: sneakers mentioned yeah yeah later I'm here, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Huh. They ain't got mentioned by Joe out
Speaker 1: ain't Joe? Huh? If he's being honest, he mentioned me too.
Speaker 1: You know, he did say yeah, he says you and
Speaker 1: bring with me yes, and you bring out this is
Speaker 1: this is real ship. I don't think you've never even
Speaker 1: been on the podcast. Yeah, that's just crazy. You know
Speaker 1: we got Actually we're doing a podcast on Joe about sneakers.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have his own podcast called Kicks. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you're about to say, have your own joint,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you know, he's gotta
Speaker 1: be Joe, Okay, like gotta be to me. I don't
Speaker 1: have the no, I just gotta try, yo. Do you
Speaker 1: know I've been trying to get fat Joe high for
Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen years that I knew him. And the other
Speaker 1: day he had a toothache and we didn't miss the
Speaker 1: childs And I'm smoking a vapor pen and I just
Speaker 1: passed it to him and he hit it and I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I didn't even see everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking and ship. They act like it's normal. He's like,
Speaker 1: he looks at the whole table. He goes, No, nobody
Speaker 1: see this guy's face. He's so happy. I just stood
Speaker 1: there and never never try it once? Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was overrated, overrated. I try it once, you like,
Speaker 1: try it again? Right, You're trying to make me try
Speaker 1: it again. I know you gotta get that money tonight.
Speaker 1: But now let's let's stay there do sneak a thing.
Speaker 1: So how did you start this fetish? Like? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean when I'm because you're like the first
Speaker 1: guy to have a pair of knikes, the first DJ.
Speaker 1: I know, Um, I don't know if that's that guy
Speaker 1: I would say about Beato had him, but like he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not like considered the DJ the way I'm considering
Speaker 1: the DJ. So I mean, I guess with a release,
Speaker 1: the first guy with a release would probably be either
Speaker 1: me about it or yet when it comes to the
Speaker 1: rap game or whatever. The DJ thing definitely. And is
Speaker 1: it true that you you try to wear just one
Speaker 1: sneaker every day, like different since two thousand four, Since
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, every day you switch up a
Speaker 1: different sneaker. Actually, I'm with my second pad today, your
Speaker 1: second pair just for daays do I did look down
Speaker 1: and no, no, I don't matter. I'm just I gotta
Speaker 1: look I got it. I'm like today, man, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I don't know whether you probably don't have,
Speaker 1: but you probably don't have got the acronyms. The original
Speaker 1: These are the ones that came out about four or
Speaker 1: five years ago, right, you got the new ones that
Speaker 1: just came out there, ain't scared. So how do you
Speaker 1: keep your ship fresh? How do you wear a brand
Speaker 1: new bad sneaky look? Fiji looking? Baby? We we got you, baby.
Speaker 1: You know what got the wrong one? You didn't get
Speaker 1: the red. He the only nigger that called me my.
Speaker 1: So now Clark, okay, like I was, you asked me
Speaker 1: about how um I was a kid and around my
Speaker 1: way what you crying? Heights of Brooklyn. The older dudes
Speaker 1: who had who had girls? No, no, no, no girls.
Speaker 1: We would always like, look up to the guys, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if I'm like eight and
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a guy who sixteen seventeen, the first
Speaker 1: thing I'm trying to figure out is how did he
Speaker 1: get the girls? And we always started sneakers looked new,
Speaker 1: but he was older, so he's supposed to have better
Speaker 1: sneakers than a kid who's eight, But we didn't register
Speaker 1: that because there was no father's around. So we looked
Speaker 1: at them like big brothers who kind of guided, or
Speaker 1: big uncles who guided. And if they were fresh. We
Speaker 1: wanted to be fresh, so we just wanted our sneakers new.
Speaker 1: And that started. Like when I was nine. First time
Speaker 1: I made some money, I bought sneakers. Think me too.
Speaker 1: That's herd ship. But I'm not like kings like y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all like y'all take this ship serious, that's a choice.
Speaker 1: I've got the money. I'm like, because because you have them,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you have the money. I'm the point because
Speaker 1: we're talking about the fact that you have the money.
Speaker 1: Relaxed when you got that five, Jess, but you weren't
Speaker 1: sneakers happening enough. I actually went avery rex sopping gortex,
Speaker 1: so I went to the ship the street and stretch
Speaker 1: on strong ship. Yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely the truth.
Speaker 1: So look now this is basically shot time. This is
Speaker 1: when we take a shot of your preference. This is
Speaker 1: a part of the show reference that every show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm an avid listener. Yes I'm because you know the
Speaker 1: first time, you know what I did. Actually you know
Speaker 1: you know because you're my friend. So I actually look
Speaker 1: at the other interviews that I want to be the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of every other interview you ever did. And
Speaker 1: I want to just ask you about hip hop as
Speaker 1: opposed to just actually personal stuff. We'll get like two
Speaker 1: little things, but I want to act you in general
Speaker 1: hip hop because you're a hip hop king, and we
Speaker 1: gotta acknowledge that, we gotta respect that, appreciate that. That's
Speaker 1: the show was about. I don't know if you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if this is the reason
Speaker 1: why it works because they quote on quote called me
Speaker 1: a legend, and for a legend to sit on the
Speaker 1: chair and always respect another legend, I guess that's humbling
Speaker 1: to certain people. And I want to continue that because
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying, Like I remember
Speaker 1: Clark coming to the War Reports session and I'm having
Speaker 1: a rhyme. My rhyme was like thirty six bars and
Speaker 1: he was like, Bax, It's like, Yo, this is not
Speaker 1: how you ride. You can't have that bars like that.
Speaker 1: You gotta break that up. And I would just rhyme.
Speaker 1: I just never knew how to, Like I just I
Speaker 1: never made a sixteen bar verse at that time, Like
Speaker 1: I just didn't registered to me. I just wrote until
Speaker 1: I couldn't write no more, and then that was a verse.
Speaker 1: So whether that was thirty six or forty. That to me,
Speaker 1: that was remember Clark coming in the studio and saying,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, you went too crazy, break that up,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to what he meant he
Speaker 1: broke it up? Had to chicks from s w V.
Speaker 1: Come I never met like I was. I was mad, y'all?
Speaker 1: What does that ship called? Uh? Struck off struck? But
Speaker 1: then she couldn't sing Let's keep you right? Which one?
Speaker 1: Which one? I don't remember which I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was either Leally or it wasn't. It was I
Speaker 1: think it wastly. It wasn't the main COO could sing,
Speaker 1: but I remember, can't wait to remember. I'm being so disappointed. No,
Speaker 1: it's not that they can't sing. It just that it
Speaker 1: wasn't working that day. It doesn't really like it correct.
Speaker 1: I want to say. He can't say no, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that you can't sing. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: day that it wasn't working on the She couldn't, she
Speaker 1: couldn't catch it. But but so describe that. Describe that
Speaker 1: session for you for me, um, for you. You gotta
Speaker 1: get some pretense to the to the to it. I
Speaker 1: knew you from before, like everybody needs to know. Like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I just walked up and I just
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no, that's not what you do. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was more like, okay, I
Speaker 1: knew him all the time, and it was your clock,
Speaker 1: we need to join. I'm like, yeah, you know. And
Speaker 1: then and then um compone went away and I was like, funk,
Speaker 1: I can't do it then without without bone because you know,
Speaker 1: both of them is my niggers, right, And Serena was like, well,
Speaker 1: he heard a beat that he liked and it was
Speaker 1: a decision that he made and he was going to
Speaker 1: do the whole song by himself. And that's where we
Speaker 1: got in there, and it was just just forty eight
Speaker 1: bonds of rhyme, and I was like, dude, and my
Speaker 1: thing was the track was too pretty for him to
Speaker 1: be be rhyming all crazy on it. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: the rhymes are fine. Since you have to move something around,
Speaker 1: can you stop for a second let me stick a
Speaker 1: hooking there. You know what I'm saying that I don't
Speaker 1: know it just like that. If you asked me what
Speaker 1: was that like, I'm gonna say it was perfect because
Speaker 1: you let me produce, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so he wasn't. He wasn't fighting you on it. Not.
Speaker 1: But I think the reason why he didn't what it means,
Speaker 1: because I was already I had already made enough records
Speaker 1: for him to go. I trust them. See back in
Speaker 1: the days you got you got trusted if you produced
Speaker 1: some records, you know what I'm saying. And he trusted me,
Speaker 1: and like he was the first producer apartment, because he
Speaker 1: was the first producer who told me that most producers
Speaker 1: would just let me. If you look, if you listen
Speaker 1: to the chomping up later, know, if you listen to money,
Speaker 1: listen to bloody money one versus thirty six bars, bro,
Speaker 1: the other one is twenty four doesn't make sense in
Speaker 1: any other place? How did you take that when he
Speaker 1: told you? Though, Like it was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to learn. I wanted to learn. I sat
Speaker 1: back like as a as a student, and I've seen
Speaker 1: him produced like he said it was, yeah, But I
Speaker 1: look again, I think the times were we're different than
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. I'm gonna give you a you
Speaker 1: know what it was. I wasn't we made records to
Speaker 1: not only that, but like dudes who never had a record,
Speaker 1: like who never sold the record, they'll give you a
Speaker 1: just walk away and be like yes down, and they're
Speaker 1: not a phrase. Well what does that song sound like?
Speaker 1: Is it a song? Or people gonna remember that ship
Speaker 1: or they're gonna care later. So if you've made a record,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you start to care differently.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted him to have a song that
Speaker 1: had a feeling that you when you walked away from
Speaker 1: listening the whole album, you might be like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: my favorite record, that's my favorite record, But you'll never
Speaker 1: forget that he made closer to this paper. You'll never
Speaker 1: forget it when you listen to the album because because
Speaker 1: it's the one song on the album that's sounds that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that's good, that's that's the god. That that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's the god him. I'm talking to us, guy, Come on,
Speaker 1: put some more that it was in the shots? Can
Speaker 1: you help know? I don't like your heavy hand. I
Speaker 1: got a cold rocking. Do we wipe this up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You've got eight terms it in terms of holds right here,
Speaker 1: he put yo cold cold goddamn you give me my
Speaker 1: bottom that I forgot. This is you. Thank God I
Speaker 1: changed my plight. You the wrong, wrong, I'll take ye.
Speaker 1: I'm here, Okay, I'm here. I think it's going back
Speaker 1: to shout the puff coast rock. Let's go cost big
Speaker 1: coat for me right there? Damn it the normal Cooper ship.
Speaker 1: But really shocked that Lord pick him up. We're this feeling.
Speaker 1: Shot niggas gave me the filth. Yes, shot glasses on them,
Speaker 1: and I'm man, I ain't even walk some shot glasses
Speaker 1: right there. I want something that you know, you know
Speaker 1: what my first person in actually you know what's hey?
Speaker 1: This year is the twenty year anniversary of the war report. Wow,
Speaker 1: June would be because we dropped in June. Uh, nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1: Seven ninety was busy, so it's busy this year. It's real.
Speaker 1: It's seven seen for like having fun. We're doing it
Speaker 1: all over. You got a shot Maya's right there? Who's pouring? Oh?
Speaker 1: I got a four months for yourself. We don't want
Speaker 1: to me, we don't want you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Your legend? God damn it, we see what's your wedding
Speaker 1: wing on? I wore mind? So I knew you was
Speaker 1: gonna win. Y'alls. You know you Wait, you said, I
Speaker 1: wore minds because I knew you that's the job. So
Speaker 1: there's a nigger when you are. Now we're just gonna stick.
Speaker 1: I can't bang up. Man. That was my be like
Speaker 1: a kid with you. I want mind I knew you're
Speaker 1: gonna have. That was that. There was a lot that
Speaker 1: was city. God dammit, And we got patron for Clark
Speaker 1: cancer and motherfucking may man is having a wait, wait ware,
Speaker 1: wait can we get a shot of air conditioning? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was over head, so it wasn't a leave discussion
Speaker 1: right there by. Got damn it trying to him, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy your brother you're stand that's right man, the
Speaker 1: drink champs, got damnit. I'm having the world against the head.
Speaker 1: We celebrate hip hop. Look at that. Look at that man.
Speaker 1: I knew Clark is a different type of person. I
Speaker 1: asked him what you're drinking? He said, for trum people
Speaker 1: who would drink patron, they like to go to the abyss.
Speaker 1: That's the bottom of the O. I expected, God damn it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, now let's go. I feeling man, chaps, got damnit.
Speaker 1: Look I got the biggest shot to see you makes
Speaker 1: because the DC tour in the house got damn. You know,
Speaker 1: we love you to get money, be h. I didn't
Speaker 1: do to get money. Be I'm mixed to get money. Record.
Speaker 1: What happened was d J d J e um, he's
Speaker 1: ez LP the one over that right, No, where are
Speaker 1: you going right now? No? I was asking because I
Speaker 1: was the over phone conversation you're talking about easy LP.
Speaker 1: He told you to turn down the beat and he
Speaker 1: was on the phone and then you snuffed him or
Speaker 1: something like that. I want to hear this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like something happened. I didn't hear that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. And as soon as you get
Speaker 1: this shot and start asking, don't heard the story. There's
Speaker 1: no backing out of here. He's not just I was
Speaker 1: around that, just so you know. It wasn't over me.
Speaker 1: It was over he was on the phone and and
Speaker 1: he was I think it was either on or just so.
Speaker 1: Somebody was saying ma'am and and then somebody somebody was
Speaker 1: like he I don't know who said, turned the ship
Speaker 1: down or whatever, but you know, then he got the
Speaker 1: big sudden he got hit with a drummer, Shine, you
Speaker 1: hit him with a drum I didn't hit him with
Speaker 1: a drummer. Shine. Make the Drummerchine just flew make some more.
Speaker 1: My brother heard about this story. I did not hit
Speaker 1: him with a drummer sheet, but I didn't. We didn't
Speaker 1: have a beat. Right now, he's Bill. We're taking a
Speaker 1: little shot. Yeah, I wanted to take listen with all
Speaker 1: you can take all the shots. I'm not mad. I'm
Speaker 1: saying something. I did not hit him with a machine. Think,
Speaker 1: so what did you do? There was a rough conversation
Speaker 1: about the fact that when I mixed the record, but
Speaker 1: when I was mixing the record, I was taking out
Speaker 1: the drums that he put on the record to just
Speaker 1: leave the loop by itself. Why is all the arms
Speaker 1: for him? It's not deep, it's simple. And I think
Speaker 1: played myself, and I think that's the way. I think.
Speaker 1: There was like a heated conversation because honestly, I wasn't
Speaker 1: even paying attention. I just know it was like wow,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck? And you had
Speaker 1: got I think he got hit with a drump machine
Speaker 1: something like that. I wasn't positive like every other thing,
Speaker 1: like every everything you ever mentioned, and like, but right now,
Speaker 1: this the moment you got the Brooklyns birk on, like
Speaker 1: when you can't even take the brooklynsk like you can't
Speaker 1: take a little shot Cloud. We celebrating clak head tonight.
Speaker 1: I see you in the words of Norm I need
Speaker 1: official poor world, Poor world. And I see you on
Speaker 1: the DJ. That's something you had, champagne. You killed the crowd,
Speaker 1: you know, goddamnit. I'm still proud of you, still out
Speaker 1: here relevant taking on the show. Got damn it, Come on,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. So Luke clarke ken motherfucking may
Speaker 1: up goes down like that, I am not going to
Speaker 1: the party. The best flicker on the planet. Throw that
Speaker 1: out there. That's you. I was way too much sol
Speaker 1: So it was over the god you did not. I
Speaker 1: did not hit Easy LP with a drum machine at all.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to Okay, I had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it. So you want to they want to get
Speaker 1: off of that subject. I'm at text you to not
Speaker 1: even tell you up. But it's all because Easy LP
Speaker 1: his family as well. That's what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: heard because you know, you know why I heard that room,
Speaker 1: because they was telling me how Big was like an instigator.
Speaker 1: So they so they because I used to instigate it,
Speaker 1: and it's like you're like big Big as an instigator.
Speaker 1: So that's how I had got that story. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Big was the instigate. I would say Big
Speaker 1: was he instigated the machine just crazy. Can I ask
Speaker 1: you about the rapping you slid? No, it's okay, it
Speaker 1: was okay, I kill you got Ready said yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what you did? Yo? I want
Speaker 1: to be. I want to be I want everybody to
Speaker 1: understand this. Nor recurved me when he first started doing
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yes, wait wait remember you hit me on
Speaker 1: on Twitter to hold on, hold on, hold on. I
Speaker 1: was way later after that. I want to know because
Speaker 1: you hit me on Twitter and was like, Yo, we
Speaker 1: need to get you on the on the podcast and
Speaker 1: I went, I don't know, son because I know you poppy,
Speaker 1: and you was like yeah, I forget it. You were back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get it? I said, how I left? That was like
Speaker 1: I don't I said, I don't know because I know
Speaker 1: you probably back. Here's the crazy ship. Now. I'm a
Speaker 1: hot nigger, so sometimes I answer somebody else thinking I'm
Speaker 1: askwering somebody else. You listen, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It's certain people that is like so much family to
Speaker 1: me that it's like you're one of those guys, Like
Speaker 1: I don't pressure you because I know that me and
Speaker 1: you're gonna have you gonna do it, and then I've
Speaker 1: seen you did. We almost did when you know I'm
Speaker 1: saying I said, I said, I said, they don't know
Speaker 1: how to, you know, get it out of him. Like
Speaker 1: you know, that's a great pause. It's great. They do.
Speaker 1: What they do is what they do. But what we
Speaker 1: do is we celebrate hip hop. We celebrate moments, we
Speaker 1: celebrate the pallady. And because celebrating, are you trying to
Speaker 1: celebrate someone getting here with a drummer sheet having an
Speaker 1: issue with easier I didn't happen. Yeah, but that something
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what actually happened, because that's such a
Speaker 1: classic hip hop story. Because y'all, I was so intricated
Speaker 1: in the Junior Mafia albums, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: So that you didn't know that. You need to know that.
Speaker 1: Um like three us my lucky number. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: do one more shot, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: ahead continue. I just want to throw that out here.
Speaker 1: Now keep my next. The best Panamedian DJ in the
Speaker 1: world makes some and fab is the best Aminican rapper
Speaker 1: in the world make some noise that as well. My
Speaker 1: job is to get people who are have Latin on
Speaker 1: like Jewel Santana Holdamia, absolutely not. I'm embarrassed, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, I always say that I'm embarrassed by that.
Speaker 1: It's never funnin she was here, she had to speak
Speaker 1: English all the time. So when when we came in,
Speaker 1: we learned English. Welcome to play a new podcast network
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Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with rapper and R and d J.
Speaker 1: Then now Clark Kennedy the man. This was the smartest
Speaker 1: thing you internationally knows right, niggas know you, but people
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn know that Clark is a certain way you
Speaker 1: go through Clark. Do get somewhere. These people, these people
Speaker 1: come to you and they say they got an artist
Speaker 1: named Jazzo. And Jazzo tells you they have an artist
Speaker 1: named jay Z. Who was your first impression of that? Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't get told that that there's an artist named
Speaker 1: Jazz Oh. I knew Jazz Oh because he was working
Speaker 1: with fresh Board, because Jazz Jazz was down with fresh Boarding.
Speaker 1: He was down with Fresh Garden, fresh from MASSI not no,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if any of the sets just
Speaker 1: being questioned right now. Yeah you can qualified guys, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Jazzo was my man already. And jazz O used to
Speaker 1: produce Chad who lived up the block from me, Chad
Speaker 1: Elliott Um Fresh Garden was one of my my, my
Speaker 1: good friends, and and they used to work together on
Speaker 1: records and producing other people and such. And Jazz was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta hear my man. This is like forever ago.
Speaker 1: And it was Jake and I in my who say
Speaker 1: you gotta hear my man, Jazz jazz Oh. But the
Speaker 1: thing is like, when you knew Jazz, you felt like
Speaker 1: Jazz was like the best thing in the whole world
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. He was untouchable, like for real, if you
Speaker 1: really knew when you listened to Ryn a certain way,
Speaker 1: like he was really untouchable. And then he brings this
Speaker 1: dude who's as good as him but has a little
Speaker 1: more swagger to him, but not back then, did you know? Not?
Speaker 1: Back then then he had a little more that that. No.
Speaker 1: On Hawaiian Sophie, it was already drunk. Fact, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what he's saying right now. But it's okay. It
Speaker 1: was a soundtrack. It wasn't a sound track. You got
Speaker 1: people listening to you, man, you man, we could talk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Jazz is like, you gotta hear my man. I
Speaker 1: hear his man is man is light. So when I
Speaker 1: got my first job at a record a record company.
Speaker 1: Now in between these times, because Jazz is my man,
Speaker 1: every there was a bunch of times that he did
Speaker 1: those and he would call me like DJ for me
Speaker 1: at the show, and Jay would be there. So I
Speaker 1: would get to hear these two rhyme all the time.
Speaker 1: And I always thought to myself like these like might
Speaker 1: be the two best motherfucker's in the whole world. Wow.
Speaker 1: So you know, time goes on. I get this job.
Speaker 1: I get the job of Atlantic Records. I think at
Speaker 1: day one and a half, I was like, where's jay Z,
Speaker 1: Where's Jazz? Where's jay Z? Where's Jazz? I found Jazz first,
Speaker 1: and Jazz was like I gotta find jay Z. And
Speaker 1: then Shirt King Fade shirking from Queen's Yeah, okay, because
Speaker 1: then if he wanted to say that, right of course
Speaker 1: I did. Who's that because I don't know what listens
Speaker 1: ain't Ja is one of the shirt Kings, but his
Speaker 1: name was Funky Fade. Now, shirt Kings was like a
Speaker 1: very popular place in the com sum more than Jamaica Queens.
Speaker 1: That is like, you can't understand everybody from New York,
Speaker 1: with all due respect, if we're saying shirt Kings and
Speaker 1: he can agree shirt Kings. Anybody who listened to this,
Speaker 1: if you if you go on Google and you built
Speaker 1: up shirt Kings, google shirt Kings and you'll be learning
Speaker 1: something that was important hip at that time, and shirt
Speaker 1: Kings were important. Funky Fade and and Nike was super
Speaker 1: important than hip hop, and they were a part of
Speaker 1: the thing that we were doing. They were making graffiti
Speaker 1: shirts and shirts of characters and anybody who was doing
Speaker 1: anything hip hop at that presice moment tried to get
Speaker 1: a shirtcane shirt. There was a bunch of people who
Speaker 1: were go to the mall. There was a bunch of
Speaker 1: people were charts back then. Yeah, yah, yeah, they were,
Speaker 1: they were there. They would you like like like like
Speaker 1: people would take pictures and like in front of this.
Speaker 1: So when we were seeing that in other cities, they
Speaker 1: were emulating them. Even if you see any with a
Speaker 1: big were seeing anything hip hop in any other city.
Speaker 1: They were trying to dup locate shit that we had
Speaker 1: already done, not that we were doing, ship that we
Speaker 1: had already done, Like we built hip hop and then
Speaker 1: we let everybody else. You say what you say in
Speaker 1: New York? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, be talking about absolutely, But
Speaker 1: I mean it involved a change in Each city did
Speaker 1: its own part of it, but they anything that they did.
Speaker 1: If we didn't have this foundation and ship that they
Speaker 1: worked from, there would be no rap if there was
Speaker 1: no hip. I just want to say, I want to
Speaker 1: say it like that so that when you say, when
Speaker 1: you look at somebody else and you see it in
Speaker 1: another city, it kind of haste or another country, it
Speaker 1: has contacts that it came from this absolutely okay, cool,
Speaker 1: But but some fanship what made you and I'm privy
Speaker 1: to all these stories are read because I've been around
Speaker 1: you forever. What did you hear from Jay that made
Speaker 1: you say that these two at why? This is the
Speaker 1: reason why I want to know what you heard? Man?
Speaker 1: The same thing of this question, because I remember you
Speaker 1: talking about Jay when everybody was like clocks but it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ma him tell another story after
Speaker 1: this one. Ahead, go ahead, so like like so reiterated
Speaker 1: when he acts like what made you see? What did
Speaker 1: you hear? Like because I know, yeah, I know you
Speaker 1: and Dame dask can't really get along because yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny you say that, because Dame is really my man,
Speaker 1: my man. You know he's not He's my man. I
Speaker 1: can't say anything negative about him. I can't even if
Speaker 1: I tried the things that I would say, it would
Speaker 1: be negative between me and him, and to the world
Speaker 1: it would be like, but' all the friends, so it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be that way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The ship that I could say negative about him, mayor
Speaker 1: who's my ace? People would go, well, y'all the friends
Speaker 1: are supposed to be that way. Were fighting, don't talk
Speaker 1: for a year and a half, but he's still my nigga,
Speaker 1: like nothing, and no one would know he was fighting.
Speaker 1: We'd be something no, no with you. He's gonna try
Speaker 1: sitting on my shot. I don't care how so guy
Speaker 1: you know what. Wait wait wait, wait, wait, sit down,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a while we're here. Have you asked
Speaker 1: me a question on my finished answering? I know what
Speaker 1: was the question? What did I want to know? What
Speaker 1: did you him? Why are you suing like I don't know?
Speaker 1: That's good? Let me live an interview, an interviewing if
Speaker 1: you don't want to, that's my podcast interview with that, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm putting work. Come on. I like to give context
Speaker 1: to answers. So when I was growing up, when everybody
Speaker 1: looked and they saw Mellie mel Rap and they thought,
Speaker 1: this is motherfucker's the Ellis ship, I saw, I saw
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Cats and I was like, he's to me. He's
Speaker 1: to me, he's a little iller. So when Tom is
Speaker 1: going on and everybody's talking about whomever, I heard rock
Speaker 1: him round when he was eleven, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: at eleven he was a wild boy. You. I was
Speaker 1: DJ and at Amityville Day on King Charles, DJ said
Speaker 1: King Charles from Queens. It was it was an Amityville
Speaker 1: I was DJ. I was young. I was DJ and
Speaker 1: Amityville Day no Wine Dance Day, Sorry, I was I
Speaker 1: did both of those. I did both of those days,
Speaker 1: like I would do Wine Dance Day, DJ and and
Speaker 1: um and and Amityville Day Djane and I was DJ
Speaker 1: and Wine Dance Day. And a little dude on the
Speaker 1: mic was rock Himp eleven on a crate and he
Speaker 1: was he was just wilding for a little dude. He
Speaker 1: was eleven, Like he could tell you this story because
Speaker 1: he knows it's true that it was me and him.
Speaker 1: But I watched him at eleven, and I was young too.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's all he's like, what two years younger
Speaker 1: than me. It was wild to see this dude DJ
Speaker 1: and at thirteen. Well, I was DJ and at nine,
Speaker 1: but I was playing parks at twelve. No games here
Speaker 1: like parks. Because he liked people. That's not from New
Speaker 1: York City. I'm gonna do people everyday back then, like
Speaker 1: like eight nine nine, early night people didn't they going
Speaker 1: to clubs they went to before even that. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and for him to say that, that's crazy. Goddam. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker got me Africa. That's what South Africa now. Michael Blair,
Speaker 1: Pink Pomp, that's another rock. I just want to throw
Speaker 1: it out there. Smooth blocking in the world oh my god,
Speaker 1: a little water high treek something yo, claw, So you
Speaker 1: worked with j H. I was giving context to the answer,
Speaker 1: but I interview you know what I'm saying. I would
Speaker 1: look at the rappers that I would see, and I
Speaker 1: would I would try to figure out who I thought
Speaker 1: was better, but see, at one point I realized that
Speaker 1: what people were looking at and thinking was better was
Speaker 1: probably different than what I was thinking and looking at
Speaker 1: was better. I looked at bar for bar for bar
Speaker 1: for bar for bar. What did you say? How clever
Speaker 1: was it? How witty was it? And then I decided
Speaker 1: if what you said was iller than the next guy
Speaker 1: that everybody's looking at. So when people were looking at
Speaker 1: Caress and whomever, I was a guy now to rock Him, dude,
Speaker 1: he's He's the wildest. And the reason why I thought
Speaker 1: rock Him was the wildest is because when rock Him
Speaker 1: made his first record, rap changed a hundred. Nobody wasn't
Speaker 1: nobody wasn't rapping anymore. They started rhyming when rock Him
Speaker 1: made his first record. Rock Him was sixteen when his
Speaker 1: reggor came in out a lot of people don't believe
Speaker 1: that what what what record? But he was like the
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen. He was like, you have to understand.
Speaker 1: Think about what I'm telling. I was young and he's
Speaker 1: younger than me. So he was young when that Reggie
Speaker 1: came out. He wasn't legal when when My My Melody
Speaker 1: came out. You know what I'm saying. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the content that he was younger than he was
Speaker 1: young when you nor was young when he was doing work,
Speaker 1: now when you did word love. Yeah, Nori. The first
Speaker 1: time I met Nod, he's not going to remember because
Speaker 1: tragedy introduced me to him, and he was wow young,
Speaker 1: But he introduced me the poem before he introduced me
Speaker 1: to him, because poems from the projects with him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But when I brought him around,
Speaker 1: it became more of a oh, I know this nigger.
Speaker 1: Now I know this nigger. And then it wasn't like
Speaker 1: I know this nigga, like I want to produce him.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, Norri's my fucking man, you know.
Speaker 1: And we drinking. Did we take that shot of right relaxed?
Speaker 1: Was your favorite number? And then that's right three? Damn
Speaker 1: my nigger. Okay, So, like said I would, I saw
Speaker 1: it when I heard it. I heard jazz, like I said.
Speaker 1: When I heard Jazz rhyme, the complexity and the things
Speaker 1: they were saying, the bar for bar for bar ship
Speaker 1: that he was saying, I was like, No, he's the
Speaker 1: best rapper in the universe. Yes, because he was super
Speaker 1: smart and he projected the smart ship that he was
Speaker 1: saying in his bars. And then he introduces me to
Speaker 1: this guy who's instead of being as smart, he's wittier. Yo,
Speaker 1: when you're rhyming, the wittier ship hits your chest a
Speaker 1: lot quicker than the smart ship, so you walk away
Speaker 1: from it being funked up, like I pack heat like
Speaker 1: the oven door, like as many motherfucker's put some in
Speaker 1: the oven. They never looked at that ship and was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: that's packing heat. Listen said that ship like what made
Speaker 1: him so witty? He was beyond most dudes, and he
Speaker 1: didn't think of things one way. And you could tell
Speaker 1: it when I met him. The things he was saying,
Speaker 1: like you met him, was he writing rhymes on paper?
Speaker 1: He might have been writing hynds on papers then, but
Speaker 1: when it got to the point where he was running
Speaker 1: around with cane and all of that, Like, no, there
Speaker 1: wasn't no but he has to understand he was he
Speaker 1: was getting to the money, so there was no time
Speaker 1: to put a pen on it. But at that precise
Speaker 1: moment when he introduced me to him, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: he's just as wild as jazz, but he has a
Speaker 1: little more that that other thing. The thing is I
Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about making records at that point, and
Speaker 1: and and he didn't know anything where he was. We
Speaker 1: were all young. But I listened and I was like, Na,
Speaker 1: he might be iller thant jazz. I never said it,
Speaker 1: but I thought it to myself, like he might be
Speaker 1: iller than jazz, but not saying that his rhymes were better,
Speaker 1: but like the way he was approaching his rhymes was
Speaker 1: a little iller, Like Jazz is a nigga who would
Speaker 1: say I mont blocked the paper satellite Ridium? He's like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is a mom block? And then when
Speaker 1: you realize it's a pen, you're like, all right, Jazz, alright,
Speaker 1: a research like we can't afford my plank pens. Nigga,
Speaker 1: how do you know what is the satellite of Ridium?
Speaker 1: The satellite of Ridium is a phone that can work anywhere, Like,
Speaker 1: who the funk knows my nigga. But that nigga was
Speaker 1: saying that ship. So when Jay, when Jazz was saying
Speaker 1: that ship, I'm looking at him like, Yeah, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: in the world better than this nigga. And we had
Speaker 1: the rise, we had the canes, we had the care arrests,
Speaker 1: we had everybody. I was going nine. Nigga not better
Speaker 1: than Jazz. Oh, but his man's was his man's turned
Speaker 1: the corner. Now you see did you see that he
Speaker 1: would be this where he's at. Now you see it,
Speaker 1: then you know I saw it as soon as I
Speaker 1: got in touch with him. Because what most people don't
Speaker 1: know is when I got in touch with him, it
Speaker 1: wasn't so we could do his records. It was so
Speaker 1: that we could do him and Jazz records. So that
Speaker 1: supposed to be the best. Jay and Jack. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's they were the best period there was the world.
Speaker 1: There's no world, one world them to do the best.
Speaker 1: And that's all I thought, And that's all I cared about.
Speaker 1: I want these niggs to be the best. Someone needs
Speaker 1: to hear these niggs and be like, what the fund
Speaker 1: is happening in all of rap history? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But the records didn't turn around that way
Speaker 1: and jazz wasn't around as much, so Jay made more
Speaker 1: records by himself. And you know, like if you were there,
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, no, this is gonna be the
Speaker 1: wildest ship ever because he was so nice, Like dude
Speaker 1: was nice. Because you know why I say that, because like, like, um,
Speaker 1: the world like they understood reasonable doubt. What was the
Speaker 1: album right after reasonably without um in my lifetime for one? Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's when the world actually like, like I mean,
Speaker 1: the rest of the world who was slow. But for
Speaker 1: you to know that early on, it's something special, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with a lot of people, because
Speaker 1: that was slept though I'm talking about like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Two years later, people was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that was a classic. It might have been his, but
Speaker 1: in context to Original Flavor, like where is this all
Speaker 1: this landing? Just so like him working with Original Flavor. No,
Speaker 1: you don't understand, Like I was working with Jay before
Speaker 1: I signed Original Flavor, And it's just that while I
Speaker 1: was working when I signed Original Flavor and I signed
Speaker 1: UM the Future Sound, I signed Damon Gus I'm Damon,
Speaker 1: but I was like, Dame, you need to meet my man,
Speaker 1: my man's elder than anything you've ever seen my jass
Speaker 1: talking about. Because you have to understand me, because that's
Speaker 1: right you introduced jay Z because this is this true Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's so noise, like getting the hip hop history.
Speaker 1: That feel like we gotta go four shots number now
Speaker 1: five five. I'm I'm I'm odd enough nigger. If I
Speaker 1: go fall, that means look at me against my fault. No,
Speaker 1: if I go forward, but that means my is to
Speaker 1: go five because I'm an odd nigga. I like being odd.
Speaker 1: I don't want to respect that. Where's the bottle he's
Speaker 1: drinking from? Trust me, please, I'm what I'm drinking. I'll
Speaker 1: drink what you That's okay, It's okay. Don't don't look
Speaker 1: over here with that look that queens look, look like relaxed,
Speaker 1: sorry and give you the queens look. I can hang cloth,
Speaker 1: but continue, Oh your story. We were saying, yeah, you
Speaker 1: asked me about original flavor, Original Flavor, and those those
Speaker 1: things were happening at the same time as I was
Speaker 1: doing records on Jay and trying to make sure that
Speaker 1: I was doing records on Jay and Jazz, and they
Speaker 1: introduced me to Sauce Money, so it was all three
Speaker 1: of them. Like, we were doing an album on Jay
Speaker 1: Jazz and Sauce called The hard Pack Pause, and we
Speaker 1: were doing that. I was working on songs for Jane Jazz,
Speaker 1: which was I thought was what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And then in the middle of that, I was doing
Speaker 1: j J solo records, and I was doing Sauce solo records.
Speaker 1: I never did Jazz solo Sock Jazz solo records because
Speaker 1: Jazz was a producer, and j solo records wind up
Speaker 1: being on reasonable doubt, two of them did. It was
Speaker 1: supposed to be three, but we lost a dad right
Speaker 1: before Master Pucing Records made its thoughts and uh joint
Speaker 1: with Bleake um Coming Age. Why couldn't I remember? I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I know you did Cashman, That's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite records. I don't know you did Coming Age. Here.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, but um, but what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is are you aware that what I'm saying Like when
Speaker 1: Reasonable Doc came out, I knew it, but it was
Speaker 1: like the industry, I'm not talking about this, Damn me,
Speaker 1: I don't care what the industry was thinking. He still new.
Speaker 1: I knew I was a hundred percent short. Actually I
Speaker 1: was a hundred and fifty percent short. And I used
Speaker 1: to tell people you would apologize later, and a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas, yeah, it didn't matter what label it came on.
Speaker 1: I told niggas they would apologize, and for sure, for
Speaker 1: years straight, every time I saw a dude in the game,
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, you was right, nigger. That's an apology.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants to tell was right when he
Speaker 1: thinks he's ad produced. Ain't no nigga. Jazz Jazz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it has so much of him on it,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, he wrote the hook too.
Speaker 1: I know he didn't write the hook. He's singing the
Speaker 1: hook because the record is ain't no nigga. Like when
Speaker 1: I got a little one, the one who's singing that
Speaker 1: is Jazz, Jazz singing that. Oh, by the way, Jazz
Speaker 1: could sing his ass off. Jazz on a hug right now.
Speaker 1: You can get Jazz on her right now, Jazz, how
Speaker 1: I have you? Goddamn? But Jazz is a real, real
Speaker 1: ill music dude. You know what I'm saying. He's a producer,
Speaker 1: he's a songwriter, and he's a rap writer. Like to me,
Speaker 1: if like a chick found jazz oh and like sat
Speaker 1: him down and had a check, she'd be the wildest
Speaker 1: chick you've ever heard because of the rhymes that he
Speaker 1: would write for her. Oh that's what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: if he sat there shot down, I'll i'll you want
Speaker 1: to go, I don't know, I'll down. Like Clark, he's
Speaker 1: Panda made and he's just coming out of him. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Clark, I missed Judge, you miss Juice. Let's
Speaker 1: make them Clark ain't got dad. So now you've worked
Speaker 1: you arguably worked with you worked with jay, I, worked
Speaker 1: with Nori, you worked with component Noriega. But before that,
Speaker 1: there's this kid that comes out called nas. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know about that. I would like to hear your story.
Speaker 1: So what story here is not a story? It's the
Speaker 1: true who got a story about everything? You're a legend,
Speaker 1: NIGGOA expect you nigga, tell me about it. I used
Speaker 1: to produce most of it. Like the studio I worked
Speaker 1: in most of the time was power Play in Queens
Speaker 1: in Queen's talk about you hype you hype on Queens, Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so that was probably like the most hip hop studio
Speaker 1: in New York City at that time was power Play
Speaker 1: Makes most of that Our first record I ever recorded
Speaker 1: as component Oriega was in power Play Studios, just called
Speaker 1: half a Mile Half mil I got that record, got
Speaker 1: that record, I got That's like my first like um
Speaker 1: have recorded, but I guess that's as Coriega. But Capone,
Speaker 1: No Capone been home. I had came home and I
Speaker 1: couldn't reach him. And the first record we recorded, the
Speaker 1: good halfs We're going to half a min haf mi No,
Speaker 1: not Big Up got he was nice. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: that Brooklyn, Brooklyn. He's on Penalty Records. That was my man.
Speaker 1: Everybody always hit me on on Twitter and tell me
Speaker 1: talk about him in the podcast. I'm glad his name
Speaker 1: got brought up because Big Up a half a Meal,
Speaker 1: Half Dead Nights, too Well, Crown Heights, Brown Crin Heights.
Speaker 1: He was on the board of Crime Heights and Best
Speaker 1: Style Your Clock. Kid, You was the Fisher Brooklyn representative.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a thousand percent as Brooklyn coach signs Spike Lee.
Speaker 1: I heard they try to UMU band Spike Lee, and
Speaker 1: I heard you had to shut it down. One time.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't. I don't even know what the fun
Speaker 1: is talking about. I know, yes, absolutely, yes, yes, goverybody's
Speaker 1: who come to see him to hedn't try to shut
Speaker 1: down to the right thing. And I heard you had
Speaker 1: to come up. You gotta get yo, let's just go.
Speaker 1: That's amazing trump past I made it up right now, okay,
Speaker 1: power Play Studio. I was remixing a bunch of records
Speaker 1: and that's the place I would do all the records at.
Speaker 1: And in the next room it was always large professor.
Speaker 1: Who's who's my man? And he uh he did the Barbecue,
Speaker 1: Live the Barbecue. And when he did Live at the Barbecue,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, come here this record. So I'm
Speaker 1: here in the record and I'm like, whoa, I think
Speaker 1: he's going cracky cool the fuck it's this nigga. And
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, that's my nigga, no nigga. And
Speaker 1: I was on it and I was like, an a
Speaker 1: went crazy too. So I was like, wait, wait, hold
Speaker 1: on time because I just don't like the way he's
Speaker 1: like no chalant. Be's describing one of the craziest records
Speaker 1: in hip hop history, Live at the Barbecue. He's just
Speaker 1: saying he was at the session. No, I wasn't at
Speaker 1: the same said I was that when he was mixing
Speaker 1: the record. The record was done and I was Lodge
Speaker 1: is my men. You know what I'm saying. He was like,
Speaker 1: listen to it. So I listened, and I was because
Speaker 1: I paid so much attention to wrap. I was like,
Speaker 1: who's Who's Who's loose? You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that's the ship. He said he went to health for
Speaker 1: snuffing Jesus. Like anybody who said some ship like that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay a lot. I was like, when I
Speaker 1: was twelve, I wanted to help us love at Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nasty. No continue, And I'm thinking you like seventeen,
Speaker 1: so for five years after you lived after snuffing Jesus,
Speaker 1: you nice, you know? But anyway he's dead nice. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm cook. I'm so um. I
Speaker 1: hear on my hair, on my arm, my hair, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know how the records ill whatever, keep going?
Speaker 1: And then um, Lodge is working on ox album. And
Speaker 1: then I went into a bidding war between Interscope because
Speaker 1: I was working in Atlantic Records and I was trying
Speaker 1: to sign and I was in a bidding war between
Speaker 1: Atlantic and and uh and in the Scope. The crazy
Speaker 1: part is like I kept trying to tell I, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Atlantic is it owns Interscope, so like this
Speaker 1: bidding war makes no sense. Fun with your man. And
Speaker 1: they gave him more money, so he sucked that. So
Speaker 1: then I was Then one day he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: well what about nas And I was like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: bring him. I'm thinking where, bring him to me at
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records. But I'm thinking, Okay, your album's done. That
Speaker 1: means his album must be done because Ox album was
Speaker 1: done when they was shopping him like Lodge was he was.
Speaker 1: I think Lodge might have been like probably way ahead
Speaker 1: of his time because he finished albums before he was
Speaker 1: like shopping him ship. So he finished. He finished Ox
Speaker 1: album before he was shocking it shopping it. So like
Speaker 1: the bidding warter that I'm in his fourth whole album,
Speaker 1: I've lost professor joints like the Oxhole album and I
Speaker 1: was like this, what the fund is happening? Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: I think he did everything on there. He did just
Speaker 1: about everything on that. I think Rob Swift might have
Speaker 1: done a record no somebody else might have did one record,
Speaker 1: but it was it was here's this album, what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? And I was like, funk. I wanted Plus
Speaker 1: I wasn't my man, so I definitely wanted to sign it.
Speaker 1: So been and what happened. I lost the bidding war.
Speaker 1: But then I mean, like, because he's my man. He
Speaker 1: was like kind of trying to smooth it over. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, but what about Nas? And I was
Speaker 1: like nas niggas telling me, no, no, you don't have
Speaker 1: to remind me. He put it up. He was like
Speaker 1: got on, yeah, because he got wrong. But I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: like this is a week after he got on. So
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, but what about nigga? Man? I want
Speaker 1: to give you some clarity of things, all right, Like
Speaker 1: I know since he was a young boy and his
Speaker 1: brother Yadi, I like, I know his whole fantasy. He
Speaker 1: was at a racist. At the reason I know him
Speaker 1: is because of how much I used to be in
Speaker 1: Left Right and I knew Poppy when he was not
Speaker 1: make So when I'm telling you I wrote that ship
Speaker 1: on Twitter, was like, yo, nigger, I know you Poppy.
Speaker 1: He was like, can't forget it? So trust me, was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't need that. You want me to more, you know,
Speaker 1: want Paris style. You gotta do it like that. Liked
Speaker 1: because you know why this hasn't changed the bottle temperature
Speaker 1: if I hold it like this, Look my hand is
Speaker 1: all cold, My hand is all hot. You don't know
Speaker 1: if I jerked off for you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like, yeah, we get a new bottom.
Speaker 1: My bottom got violated in your mind, right, see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, okay, so I'm gonna go back. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what about nods though, I'm gonna bring nods through? And
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely, So he brings them. We're sitting down.
Speaker 1: We had Atlantic Records and I go let me hear it,
Speaker 1: and he goes hear what? And I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: give me the demo on this and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't hand no demo clock, he ain't got no
Speaker 1: songs right now. And I'm just like I couldn't sign.
Speaker 1: But the reason why you need a demo because you
Speaker 1: needed to bring it. You had to bring it. I
Speaker 1: was there, had to bring it to my boss, and
Speaker 1: my boss had to hear why. I was saying. He's
Speaker 1: the guy to sign, not not even one record. Understand me. No,
Speaker 1: he had a lot of the barbeque and I was
Speaker 1: trying to convince somebody off of one record, So like
Speaker 1: you have to understand, like beforehand, like I was going,
Speaker 1: it's to nots this dude Canelli and all of these
Speaker 1: dudes who are around. I was talking to my boss
Speaker 1: a body. But then when I was like, he's gonna
Speaker 1: bring nast office, I was like, y'all Nas is coming,
Speaker 1: and she was like, well, tell me what it is
Speaker 1: when you hear it, because I kept saying like this
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. He said he's gonna snuff Jesus. You know,
Speaker 1: anybody stuff Jesus wild. He's wild. I'm with a dude
Speaker 1: who's gonna snuff Jesus, even though it sounds a little wild,
Speaker 1: because like I believe in God and I'm just saying
Speaker 1: but musically exactly, artistically crazy. So when he's sitting there,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a demo, and I was, I turned
Speaker 1: and the thing is like Nas is dumb young at
Speaker 1: this time. So I'm talking to and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't sign an artist with out of demo because I
Speaker 1: wasn't a vice president at that point. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: a director. I was a manager of being a like.
Speaker 1: I was way low down the pole totem vol at
Speaker 1: that presents moment. But I was like two like when
Speaker 1: we I said, we just signed Dost Effects. They had
Speaker 1: a whole album, Like I said, Parris Smith brought me
Speaker 1: a whole album. So he was like, okay, I was
Speaker 1: part of that. Understand me though, So every everything goes
Speaker 1: away and I don't get to sign him, and he
Speaker 1: started he made Searching whatever happens right later on Naz
Speaker 1: makes a record, I understand me. I had to talk
Speaker 1: to him about this ship because it was hilarious to me.
Speaker 1: He was like, he made the record and was like,
Speaker 1: NAS wouldn't sign because he just signed Dost Effects. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking? He said that
Speaker 1: in a record. He said Clark wouldn't sign me because
Speaker 1: he signed Dost Effects, And I was like, wait a minute, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait. I was like that, No, it's a record.
Speaker 1: It's on one of his albums. I don't don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't remember what it was, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he said, you know what's crazy. You
Speaker 1: know why I know they said it because no one
Speaker 1: listens to wrap closer than me. So when somebody makes
Speaker 1: an album, I listened to we Bar because I want
Speaker 1: to know who's nice. I want to start differentiating motherfucker's
Speaker 1: real quick. Like So like I said, he said that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, look, I swear to god
Speaker 1: I heard that ship in like three seconds later. I
Speaker 1: was on the phone without I was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: remember you. But to the to the office, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Clark White, fuck you asking me that. I said, remember
Speaker 1: when he's when I couldn't sign him. He was like
Speaker 1: you my mom couldn't. He was like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know demo. I was like, okay, I think you need
Speaker 1: to tell him what you're talking about. I said, Nick
Speaker 1: just said I didn't sign him because I signed DOS Effects.
Speaker 1: I said, what kind of fucking answer is that? Like,
Speaker 1: like who says now I'm not gonna sign you nas
Speaker 1: because I signed Dos Effects. Because that's probably how he
Speaker 1: looked at it though, and all on all fairness, with
Speaker 1: all due respect, because it's two I said, I need
Speaker 1: a demo to sign you. That's why I didn't sign you.
Speaker 1: So I saw him at Revote last year. We vote.
Speaker 1: We was on the vote together and he was like
Speaker 1: called my nigga. It was like, my nigga, come in
Speaker 1: for a second. It might seem a little petty, but
Speaker 1: he's my nigga, So petty, listen, listen, listen, you're the
Speaker 1: gentleman manager, Petty. My ship is is that I'm not petty.
Speaker 1: It's just that I wanted petty. I think I wanted
Speaker 1: him to be clear because it funked with me for
Speaker 1: all these years that he thought something so crazy. And
Speaker 1: I pulled him over with me him. I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe you came to my studio. He's like, I mean
Speaker 1: came to my office and he was what he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said remember when when I couldn't sign you. He's
Speaker 1: like yeah, I said, do you remember why? He said
Speaker 1: I think it was like like, I think it was
Speaker 1: something with that. I said, no, remember you didn't have
Speaker 1: a demo and he was like this as the rhyme
Speaker 1: came out, Yeah, this is lashes No. Twenty years later,
Speaker 1: on the Bad Boy Vote Cruise that I was DJing
Speaker 1: on and I've seen him. It was me and Andrea.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I pulled him to the side.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Andre, you could listen to like I
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk. I was like, you remember that.
Speaker 1: He was like yeah. He was like yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: You know. I brought me there and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I said, remember I was trying to sign you
Speaker 1: and he was like yeah. He was like, I said,
Speaker 1: do you remember why didn't sign He was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was you know, over the sun with
Speaker 1: that's it. I said, no, remember, I said I can't
Speaker 1: sign anybody without a demo. He was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't have no demo. I was like, that's why you
Speaker 1: didn't get signed and said, dog, you made a record,
Speaker 1: saying I didn't. He was like, damn, man, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I just didn't remember it. Right. Andre Herrell is standing
Speaker 1: in there going you know, Andre, of course I was
Speaker 1: gonna sign nice. I was like, yeah, who the funk sign?
Speaker 1: He was like, nobody was gonna sign up. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the nicest nigger around at that point, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to sign now listening to the ball. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was listening to the bars and I was trying to
Speaker 1: sign us like before everybody, like before anybody heard a song.
Speaker 1: Half time, No, you understand me? He got with search
Speaker 1: later in me back to the group I'm talking. Before
Speaker 1: as soon as he said snuffing Jesus, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. I like this guy. Let's malake
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Speaker 1: Then I feel like we just take a little shot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people are you know what, though,
Speaker 1: this adds to a matter of fact, I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna say that because I have a feeling you're gonna
Speaker 1: go there. No, no, Claude, listen, let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something I gotta take about now. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something, clo. So you're not getting drunk you
Speaker 1: want to go. I don't make it the club to that.
Speaker 1: It ain't my fault. It's it's just it's only for
Speaker 1: looks to take about. You know what happened about right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How to stop? Ye, how to stop? But but we
Speaker 1: gotta leave it there for for cultural purposes only. It's
Speaker 1: just the cultural purpose, autistic cultural purposes. Next question, So, Clawe,
Speaker 1: you've done everything I want to be close. You sent
Speaker 1: out the other day and you said Rick Ross album
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and I got a one hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: with you. But if you have the one hundred percent agreement,
Speaker 1: why is there but because no, there's no I want
Speaker 1: to say. I want to say, he's this error's version
Speaker 1: of Biggie or is now I'm not just no, he's
Speaker 1: this's version of Rick Ross. No one's ever gonna be
Speaker 1: any era of Biggie. But what I mean by nothing
Speaker 1: you can say that's gonna fix that. There's nothing you
Speaker 1: say that's him. Listen, if you say Cadence and flow,
Speaker 1: then that's Rick Ross. You know. If you say bars,
Speaker 1: then you're talking about Biggie. So you don't think he's
Speaker 1: We're done. I explained it. Just now you're gonna ask me,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, don't
Speaker 1: do that, don't do that, don't do that. We don't
Speaker 1: do that, man, Relax, relax. But his album's hardest, This
Speaker 1: album's fire, fire, fire, This is, without a doubt, no question,
Speaker 1: the best body of work he's ever done. Okay, now
Speaker 1: and throw you all a hurt boy? Did you listen
Speaker 1: to More Life? Absolutely? I feel like, that's his best
Speaker 1: body of work we had. That's Drake's best ever. If
Speaker 1: you take the singing records off of that album, that
Speaker 1: ship super hip hop. No, that Ship is a five
Speaker 1: mic album right there. Hold on, I want to, I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to visualize because it's I'm an
Speaker 1: honest nigga's twenty tracks on there. Correct you're saying. I
Speaker 1: want to be clear what you're saying, because you're a
Speaker 1: hip hop god. So you're saying to me, there's two
Speaker 1: good singing records. I'm a diva beat and the love
Speaker 1: all the singers in my mind every time I listen
Speaker 1: to it, I'm on Molly, this is the crazy you
Speaker 1: want music Sometimes maybe feel like I'm on drugs. I
Speaker 1: want but I like, no, listen, listen. I would like
Speaker 1: some ship and and this is really nig ship. When
Speaker 1: I listened to Drake's albums, Drake's music period, I don't
Speaker 1: listen to him like he's a rapper. I listened to
Speaker 1: him like he's an artist. And if I can listen
Speaker 1: to him like he's an artist, I can take take everything.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna ask you, if you're gonna ask
Speaker 1: me that album, if the ship is that's his best
Speaker 1: body of work. Yes, but if you take the singing
Speaker 1: records over that ship, that's just like that's a five
Speaker 1: mic album. You're saying. I don't know. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is the ship is amazing. It's amazing, yo, And like
Speaker 1: other than you, you want to know what's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: not even about the fact that he could spit. It's
Speaker 1: about that the records are like a fucking girl like
Speaker 1: he made dope records. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: just that some of them singing records. I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 1: he's so nice. Give them ships away. So you're saying, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Understand what I'm saying. When I say and I say
Speaker 1: give him away, its like give him to a little artist,
Speaker 1: Give those singing joints to somebody else. Give a fucking
Speaker 1: whole album. No no, no, no no now now as
Speaker 1: as a hip hop killer artists album and as an album,
Speaker 1: I do actually would like to see a whole rapping
Speaker 1: drink because because I don't know if you heard that
Speaker 1: join free smoke, Free Smoke, Free Smoke, that ship reminds
Speaker 1: me of a Havoc beat and and and that moment
Speaker 1: when I heard that. I said, you know what, he's
Speaker 1: actually tapping into the era of the nineties, so I
Speaker 1: can float. But I'm giving him a new flow. That
Speaker 1: was a Havoc beat. People don't really respect that dude
Speaker 1: the right way. You know why, because it's a lot
Speaker 1: of factors when you look at them. But if you
Speaker 1: took away all the factors and just looked at the music,
Speaker 1: that dude is wild. But when you're talking about albums
Speaker 1: I look at I want to look at him as
Speaker 1: a rapper because I heard him rapping. Like his first
Speaker 1: record was a song with trade songs. That ship went
Speaker 1: to Damn number three or four to say as fall, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ship that was on I just wanted to be No,
Speaker 1: that's not his first record. This first record was a
Speaker 1: record that was on the top ten on Fucking Um,
Speaker 1: on BT one of six and Park. It was wild
Speaker 1: before he signed with Wayne, he had a good record
Speaker 1: out and it was with trade songs, like he knows
Speaker 1: trade songs for a long time. You understand me. Listen
Speaker 1: to what I'm telling you. Listen, Niggers do not listen
Speaker 1: to the bars. I listened to the bars, and I
Speaker 1: traveled the world, so I saw him before he signed
Speaker 1: with Wayne and he had to regor out with trade
Speaker 1: songs and ship was on BT. I can't remember the ship.
Speaker 1: Can't ask me what it is right now, especially after
Speaker 1: four shots even four. I feel like you said respect
Speaker 1: the end of guard and you said full Come on,
Speaker 1: pat that the end of guarding. You said f and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna I don't don't want to go down
Speaker 1: with you will come on? Yeah, I gotta salute you.
Speaker 1: One year anniversary. And what we're doing is very disrespect
Speaker 1: ways of coach. Why I mean, what we're doing drinking
Speaker 1: no later in life. We all we are closing something
Speaker 1: very we could for the podcast culture. Oh God, pressure
Speaker 1: on me, putting pressure on me, and we are celebrating
Speaker 1: clock Camp, holy ship that everybody got over locks. We
Speaker 1: have has matched studios. Let's not forget that. Yeah you
Speaker 1: have Um the dude from the Bronum Nothing wrong Patriots.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's in town this weekend. Yeah he had him.
Speaker 1: Did you did you? Did you? Did you interview? No? No,
Speaker 1: we can't yo. You know why. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he cared for the whole weekend. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. There's real fashion. I know what
Speaker 1: I do when I get a person here, right, you
Speaker 1: don't know about him, so you can't really get to it. No,
Speaker 1: I know all about him, but I'll get your kicked
Speaker 1: out of the league. Okay, cool, because if I get
Speaker 1: your too far, you're gonna get me kicked out. And
Speaker 1: I started start. You gotta get me kicked out of
Speaker 1: hip hop? No, you could never never happened. Man, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you can get grunt kicked out the league,
Speaker 1: you might. I just feel like, I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we might spice up his drink boom, give
Speaker 1: him a molly in there. And there's too many regular
Speaker 1: just might smart st I'm gonna be honest with how
Speaker 1: many listen. You don't know how many athletes hit me.
Speaker 1: And was like, yo, I want to come on there
Speaker 1: slam And I was like, why are you in the Joe?
Speaker 1: You gotta relax when you get out, holla when you
Speaker 1: get cut when you's a couple of dudes that hip mean,
Speaker 1: that's out the league. And I told him relaxed. And
Speaker 1: they on ESPN now and they on all that because
Speaker 1: if they would have hit drink Champs, I would have
Speaker 1: gave him that y'all got the main gonna buy a
Speaker 1: pink bomb, And they would have been like, y'all, can
Speaker 1: let say say about by, Like yeah, y'all, let's make
Speaker 1: some noise. You mean, they're not making sense of making
Speaker 1: perfect senience. We got open at the bottle of champagne
Speaker 1: and we're celebrating, celebrating Clark Kent Man now Clark k
Speaker 1: dj A over the world. You got um who you
Speaker 1: got deals with Japanese people and all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite place to teach you at? When
Speaker 1: you go there, you're just like, this is me. You
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you get to shape ups in the morning,
Speaker 1: and this is this is your spot? What's that swop um?
Speaker 1: Probably Japan? I knew it was Japan. Probably Japan Japan
Speaker 1: Cup like like I really actually I really actually like
Speaker 1: deejaying here a lot Miami. Yeah. When people all molly
Speaker 1: well this weekend, this weekend might not be a good representation.
Speaker 1: Don't you dare disrespect my molly people people that this
Speaker 1: is my old dress. You better let you right now.
Speaker 1: I see you on snapchat. You were killing that ship.
Speaker 1: That's like with the bottle of champagne. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they put Molly in your ship but a little bit.
Speaker 1: I felt like what you're of the operative word at
Speaker 1: the beginning of what you said, you were killing ship.
Speaker 1: That's what you said. King talk had me dancing last night.
Speaker 1: I see not to stepping dancing. I seed you dance. Damn,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. I'll hit that week. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna work, but ahead, let's talk about your DJ experience
Speaker 1: last night. You know I was. I was just working.
Speaker 1: Um uh. I don't know I approached d Jan. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I approach it differently than much. I
Speaker 1: mean many, but I do believe that I approach it
Speaker 1: differently than a lot. I could be wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: like Djan as much as I love music. So because
Speaker 1: I love music more than I like Djan, I approached
Speaker 1: the way that that Djane with a certain amount of care.
Speaker 1: So you know that's why nine times out of ten
Speaker 1: I end up sounding a lot more better. Now, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I sounded good. We celebrate, Clark, I got, I can
Speaker 1: celebrate with your Panama noriagas my family on the love.
Speaker 1: At least I got it wouldn't bug you out of
Speaker 1: Jack used to be a dude's house with Georgia with
Speaker 1: Joys talking about it. I told you my mother was
Speaker 1: she was in the government, right, so like when like
Speaker 1: you have to understand, like I'm really Panamia, so we
Speaker 1: really have my wife is my my my fuck My
Speaker 1: mother was the Vice Council General of Panama. So like
Speaker 1: fucking with Noriega, working with General Rio's that was ship
Speaker 1: that we did all the time. So like they weren't.
Speaker 1: That wasn't Manuel Noriega. To me, that was uncle Manny.
Speaker 1: That was I'm talking about. No, No, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I was a super kid, like
Speaker 1: when I was like seven eight, like like she was
Speaker 1: in government, so she dealt with him like that. I
Speaker 1: got pictures. I posted pictures on on the internet, I
Speaker 1: mean on on them on on Instagram with my mother
Speaker 1: and he was locked up right down the street from
Speaker 1: from Frifhood and Paris never so mayn yes, sir, God
Speaker 1: damn man, it's little seeds, some man. Yes, you see
Speaker 1: this other sneak of people out there? Yeah, who is
Speaker 1: somebody You sat back and said, I gotta kill these
Speaker 1: things because you because you're a wrapper. Because he was
Speaker 1: not a rapper, because that's how rappers stays absolutely, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, no, I mean your family.
Speaker 1: So we're battle, your battle. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it a thousand percent with you. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna mention. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's had enough drinks. He's not in competition with nobody
Speaker 1: but me, I've been doing. You know what the fly
Speaker 1: ship is, I'm gonnas so white kid that Jordan's sponsored,
Speaker 1: um peple all this ship, the white Kid and he
Speaker 1: opened up a museum. You ain't see Jordan Geller yell yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: explain that he sold all those he sold all them shoes,
Speaker 1: and he sells shoes and he's not like that's a
Speaker 1: collector because he doesn't wear everything. He'll buy something the
Speaker 1: size now, the side twelve Soude Sports and just to
Speaker 1: say he has it. And that's dope. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got an ill collections difference. We're different. I don't wear
Speaker 1: a Brando pair of sneakers every day, but I wear
Speaker 1: Brandon I can wear I can't wear Brando pair of
Speaker 1: sneakers every day for ten years, but I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not clocked. I don't wear him every day. I
Speaker 1: wear Air Force three days in a row and then
Speaker 1: I get rid of What about that kid, that fat
Speaker 1: Joe brother, the kid from Dubai, is he no money kicks?
Speaker 1: Not that one dirty I'm dirty kicks kicks. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying one day Dubai got one day he'll buy my collection.
Speaker 1: Shout the money kicks now. But my whole thing is
Speaker 1: I've been doing this shift for so along and my
Speaker 1: this is my this is my this is the old part.
Speaker 1: So I'm not a rapper. I'm not an actor, I'm
Speaker 1: not a celebrity. I'm not entertained. I'm not a DJ.
Speaker 1: I am I am asked. No disrespect, brother, I love
Speaker 1: you Cloud and stuff that. I've been doing this for
Speaker 1: so long and I really became famous so for sneakers,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because I'm not famous. I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's no DJ, no rapper, no nothing. I'm just just
Speaker 1: dude from the South Bronx. I've been around a hundred
Speaker 1: years and been into the sneaking game for real. So
Speaker 1: before social media, before October fourth, two thousand nine or
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, never Instagram came out, I've been getting
Speaker 1: shoes you know what I'm saying, Like I've been getting
Speaker 1: no no nick he was telling me shoes way before
Speaker 1: they wasn't in But how did that? How does that happen? Though?
Speaker 1: So for me, So for me it's crazy, he goes,
Speaker 1: So now it goes the whole hip hop element and
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So I had club essos. But before that,
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, I don't have. I three
Speaker 1: best friends. Clawk is one of them, my man speedy
Speaker 1: James Williams. He was in a Nike commercial where they
Speaker 1: was doing the dribbling with Jason Williams and Rashee Wallace.
Speaker 1: He's from Got the Body Jason Wale No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no bodies, no no no, Jason witting that when
Speaker 1: I shot a normal driving or that white chocolate, I
Speaker 1: can relate with you understand, I understand everybody. So he
Speaker 1: was in that commercial. So I got to meet the
Speaker 1: guys like Jerry Rasma Razny, Jerry Rasmie. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So guys like that was taking care
Speaker 1: of me before there was an internet. So like I
Speaker 1: call him my brother. He was in Above the Grim
Speaker 1: with Tupac, so I was on the set every day.
Speaker 1: I was on the set for like eleven days in
Speaker 1: a row with Park when they were shooting Above the
Speaker 1: Rim and all that, just hanging out, bullshitting around and
Speaker 1: rebox pretty much smaster that whole campaign. But my man
Speaker 1: did this commercial with Nike, the Dribbling commercial, so I
Speaker 1: was able to go up in the office and then
Speaker 1: and and just build relationships and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I was getting shoes for a while. He was just
Speaker 1: White Air Forces and Black Air Forces. It was really
Speaker 1: no special shoes like that, except for the Family Tree
Speaker 1: Air Force when they want Rucker. But I mean, besides
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it was just a whole bunch of ships.
Speaker 1: I've been around that whole time, and you knew Sleepers
Speaker 1: was gonna be not hitting it. I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: love kicks, yea, I was. I was on around with
Speaker 1: Clark for years when Clark was coming to club that
Speaker 1: soos I didn't really know there was a sneaker thing
Speaker 1: with Clark like that. I knew I love sneakers. I
Speaker 1: was riding around at the toy the four Runner with
Speaker 1: somebody's in a chick's name from Wendy's. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When I had Club Girl's name what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that easy to be, easy to be made. I'm
Speaker 1: saying so running ya running around like so, I had
Speaker 1: the four run. I thought I was hot. Clark pulls
Speaker 1: up in the first Yukon jinale that I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life, two doors ship with the ill system
Speaker 1: right for a long time. Know it's crazy, and then
Speaker 1: I wind up on the stereoshop. Years later, I bought
Speaker 1: State Tuned back to day Wait wait, wait, he said,
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. What yeah, Mike Tyson used to have a
Speaker 1: brim place in Fortland, New Jersey called Stay Tuned. I
Speaker 1: bought that. It was called Audio Designs. After that, saw No,
Speaker 1: I'm fassing. Letna tell I'm gonna take it back. So
Speaker 1: when Fat Joe used to drive down here to Miami
Speaker 1: before he lived there, remember the escalator was getting from
Speaker 1: mort in Cadillacs with the with the motorized TVs in
Speaker 1: the bag that was always breaking. I did those but
Speaker 1: broken TV. Remember the Cadillac asked, my Joe used to
Speaker 1: come down here? You know what? Joe wasn't flying back
Speaker 1: in the days, remember Joe Ye, Well, when I had
Speaker 1: Audio Designs, it might have been I got locked up
Speaker 1: on old one oh two. It might have been ninety nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand, Okay, that's from the Cade. Actually it's tim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was doing his system say that because I
Speaker 1: wanted to put two years together. Now I was doing
Speaker 1: my job. I was doing his systems back. I was
Speaker 1: doing his systems back in the days. So I say
Speaker 1: that to go back from ninety six or two thousand one,
Speaker 1: like I was always like the sneakership was always forever
Speaker 1: with me. But when I used to see Clark at
Speaker 1: Essos back in ninety six, I didn't even know Clark
Speaker 1: had the ill sneaker collection like that. We was just
Speaker 1: bobbing on cars and then him coming to him coming
Speaker 1: to Mad Wednesdays when Rea David is getting drunk every night,
Speaker 1: and then Jay doing the whole ship and J and
Speaker 1: I used to pull up to Esso's two hours before,
Speaker 1: no earlier than that, like three, and they would prepaid
Speaker 1: for their bottles of Christal. They would give me thirty
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars cash christ That was three hundred hours
Speaker 1: a bottle back then shout to the plug. I was
Speaker 1: paying like forty dollars a bottle stolen selling for um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was getting a lot of money back. The funny
Speaker 1: ship is. The funny ship is when we started doing that,
Speaker 1: there wasn't even selling Crystal. They would have to go
Speaker 1: get to Chrystal because we were asking for crystal. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I was crazy. I was getting Christalin from the distributed
Speaker 1: Charms liquer all that ship, I mean only one day.
Speaker 1: The lost ship was the reason I fell in love
Speaker 1: with that whole rock The reason I fell in love
Speaker 1: with that whole rock movement was they never pulled their
Speaker 1: money out in the club. They would come to Essos
Speaker 1: at three four o'clock in the afternoon, prepaid for their
Speaker 1: bottles of Chris and had me, had me bring a
Speaker 1: case of Christal out to the ball and they would
Speaker 1: just hang by the ball. Poor they bottles, poor, they bottles,
Speaker 1: part they bottles. Okay, So how Calle said he's smart,
Speaker 1: So that was everybody else. You're starting in front and
Speaker 1: pulling their bottles out and buying eighty dollar bottles of
Speaker 1: moat and all that bullshit. And I'm sitting there last
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere. I'm at Clark. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: now Clark, you're seeing the beginning. I need to know
Speaker 1: where Clark Kent was Okay, I gotta dj I gotta go. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't know where Clark Kent was at when you
Speaker 1: heard the room was that jay Z and Dame Dash separated.
Speaker 1: And it will never be the same because everything that
Speaker 1: you said just now you you're speaking about the beginning
Speaker 1: because that's what you represent. And now you're still here,
Speaker 1: You're still relevant, you're still doing what we gotta do.
Speaker 1: But god, you're human. You're a human, So I'm actuing
Speaker 1: the human being right now. How did you feel because
Speaker 1: I still speak to both of them on the same days,
Speaker 1: may be on the same days. To guilty you speaking
Speaker 1: to you were saying you feel guilty. I could never
Speaker 1: feel guilty because they were both. I wasn't do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but um, the funny ship was,
Speaker 1: I was sitting at my desk at Rockefeller when I
Speaker 1: found out that it just wasn't gonna be the same anymore,
Speaker 1: and I, um, I uh, I thought to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're working out. Listen. It was it was a part
Speaker 1: of you to say they're working out. Yeah. I thought
Speaker 1: it was bullshit. I thought it would go away. That's
Speaker 1: what you have to understand as a guy. Who was
Speaker 1: there from ball four everything. I was just like that,
Speaker 1: that's corny ship. They'll figure it out. And because I
Speaker 1: knew understand me. I was there from the beginning. And
Speaker 1: then I went to UM to Motown Records, and I
Speaker 1: went to jobs. Yeah, I think, did you make it
Speaker 1: any help in the flowershot you pay them in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for Clark having Sear come on
Speaker 1: back a class that him awesome, better class you pull
Speaker 1: from you better class. I'm sorry you want to take no, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. Listen being before and and and you know,
Speaker 1: making a connection between them talking about some serious making
Speaker 1: him the connection between them and seeing what did you
Speaker 1: do stuff right? Introduce? Did we didn't clarify the introduction?
Speaker 1: Can we go for the introduction? How did you introduce stuff? Um?
Speaker 1: After I signed Dame's groups, I kept telling them about Yo,
Speaker 1: stud jay Z is the best in the world and
Speaker 1: you're telling this to day To Dame, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you guys see, my man, jay Z is the best
Speaker 1: in the world. It's gonna kill niggas. What is this
Speaker 1: jay Z? He ain't bet it in big l That
Speaker 1: was like, wow, like we're all due respect. I think
Speaker 1: Big L is dope, but I think he's dope. I
Speaker 1: think he's dope. But you saying that that that my
Speaker 1: my man's not better than him makes no sense to
Speaker 1: me because I listened, you know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 1: I knew how wild Kane was, Like what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Like you're saying Big L is better than
Speaker 1: Kane if you're saying Big els better than rock him
Speaker 1: and then you're saying he's better than jail, Like now
Speaker 1: you're wilding. You know what I'm saying, Like you ain't
Speaker 1: better than this? Then this is back then. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't see it. I mean, but I didn't care. So
Speaker 1: but I was just like chocking my man's ill than everybody.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I started to prove it and
Speaker 1: then he was you know, like he was like, yea,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet this guy. And when he meets him,
Speaker 1: he's like I can't believe the dudes wearing white and white.
Speaker 1: Air Force once and what the fund do you think?
Speaker 1: The only way air Force one at Harlem think at
Speaker 1: you Corning, Like how could you think something so stupid?
Speaker 1: Who are you talking about him? Dane? Dane? Like air
Speaker 1: Force once? I was like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You met me, I'm wearing air was once and so
Speaker 1: I'm from Brooklyn. Yeah, but you being I don't care
Speaker 1: where i'd be at, I'm saying like, you're gonna say
Speaker 1: that there's nobody else at all, and in Brooklyn it
Speaker 1: was once except me. That would be some dumb ship
Speaker 1: to believe, but you know, that's what he felt, and
Speaker 1: he felt like, understand me. I took him to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So he was kind of halfway scared at the same
Speaker 1: time because he believed that the only thing, yes, Dame,
Speaker 1: that the only thing that happened in Brooklyn was Robert Severy.
Speaker 1: He just felt like, motherfucker's just wrong, like all the time.
Speaker 1: Then I wanted to ovide Scoop more with my cousins.
Speaker 1: I was like, I liked it. I like, I like God.
Speaker 1: I went to Farragant. Farragant was yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, continued,
Speaker 1: I don't want to about you know. So what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I introduced them and everything was all good
Speaker 1: from day one. So when this happened, when it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's getting a little shaky, I was just like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna fix that, and that was eighteen years later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was it was enough because it was I think
Speaker 1: they had almost done ten albums or twelve albums. It
Speaker 1: was a lot, I mean, and you have to remember
Speaker 1: Jay ran a bunch of summers. He he ran a
Speaker 1: bunch of summers. Too many rappers they get that many summers,
Speaker 1: and he had summers that he bragged about it too crazy,
Speaker 1: is shut down. I mean, back then, if you had
Speaker 1: a summer in New York, you had a summer around
Speaker 1: the world. I mean, you hit records in the summer,
Speaker 1: hit records in the summer. So that's what that's what
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. But um, you know, the
Speaker 1: only summers he didn't run was the summers that he
Speaker 1: didn't put records out. So what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Heads think about it. The only summers Jay didn't run
Speaker 1: is the summers that Jade decided he wasn't rapping. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So what you think that's some ship for niggers to
Speaker 1: think about for a second. The only summers that Jay
Speaker 1: didn't run was the summers that he didn't put a
Speaker 1: fucking record out. Bottom line, when he was fifteen, I
Speaker 1: told you, niggas, I feel like we gotta make some
Speaker 1: look to make some No, no, we need another shot
Speaker 1: for that one. We don't need a last shot shot five.
Speaker 1: I told you my odd nigga. Come on, cannot leave
Speaker 1: on it. Even you can pull my ship you want,
Speaker 1: absolutely do. I'm not even looking. Can you tell me?
Speaker 1: You tell me what it? Pull it away? Man, I'm
Speaker 1: not even looking. I gotta throw mine up for that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be something. What are you dja tonight? Anybody
Speaker 1: gonna hear that ship like snapping, snapping or something. You're mad? Damn,
Speaker 1: you're mad, dispectful. I thought you're my brother. I thought
Speaker 1: you were getting done that. Look, I got it with you,
Speaker 1: you do, I got it with you. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the club tonight. I gotta with you.
Speaker 1: I'm all going. No, I'm not want to let you
Speaker 1: change your don't discuss how much this is all right,
Speaker 1: you gotta we're gonna go nor We got it all right,
Speaker 1: we didn't teach I got Let's go out on. Let's
Speaker 1: go a jake chance you fuck for this podcast that happens.
Speaker 1: I was going to tex to Norma water. Everybody this water,
Speaker 1: everybody wonder white answer feeds you. I'm the only one
Speaker 1: who's still straight. It's big up to survived. No, no,
Speaker 1: shout the pup because after after call, D Days and Night,
Speaker 1: we're going to pops out to the after party at
Speaker 1: the party. We're going. We're going now absolutely no not listen,
Speaker 1: I changed my flight for this. We're going to absolutely
Speaker 1: not me neither. This is right here, we're going. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to pump on it. You know there's video here.
Speaker 1: Just let me tell nobody's seen The Office Party. You've
Speaker 1: never seen the movie The Office Party. They were like,
Speaker 1: they are not doing that. They like, we're going ship,
Speaker 1: so we are not going to So this is how
Speaker 1: we're doing it. So are you DJ and tonight, Sam,
Speaker 1: you're at I'm DJ and a party that we do
Speaker 1: once a month called the Originals. It's me to Tony's, Richmondina,
Speaker 1: stretch On, Stung and d nice. So it's probably the wildest.
Speaker 1: It's probably the best party that we that I get
Speaker 1: to do. And you think it's still be smashing. I
Speaker 1: took party and I got a wife. I'm doing that
Speaker 1: incriminating brother, I'm very I'm not married. I'm having smashing
Speaker 1: clocks leftover. I said, I'm not married. So yeah, you'd
Speaker 1: be smashing small. I'm just happy to be I'm just
Speaker 1: having to be here. You have a beard. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to be here. You asked man. Absolutely, it's right
Speaker 1: next door. You can't miss. Yeah. I know about your
Speaker 1: man that so yeah, yeah, me too. Where where is Eddie?
Speaker 1: Asked either And I want to ask you because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a person listen. I'm listening. Look at us,
Speaker 1: I listen. I get episode on the plane on the
Speaker 1: way here, asked either Cock. I'm sorry, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's not that's any there's not anything that
Speaker 1: really speak for yourself. I'm Puerto Rican. Panamanian is like
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans like foul cousin. Three no clock is my
Speaker 1: foul brother brother. You know, I'm gonna be honest because
Speaker 1: you know why Panamania because Panamanian is like you keep
Speaker 1: me on purpose. I'm sorry that you let me tell
Speaker 1: you what Panamania is. Tell me brother, because it's like
Speaker 1: y'all Spanish husin slash Jamaican cousins. They kind of like
Speaker 1: both I'm gonna bugget now, you're not like because they're
Speaker 1: like y'all like Jamaican spack. What can you explain why
Speaker 1: because yeall eat row tea panamazing like that. That's not
Speaker 1: the reason why. I'm no, that's not the reason. Some
Speaker 1: reason why. It's because historically, when the Panama Canal was
Speaker 1: being built, l let's break down a naz he's always
Speaker 1: gone a bit. Jamaicans came over from to Panama to
Speaker 1: help build a canal. Yard man, y'ad mind them. My
Speaker 1: father's Jamaican. Okay, we got to talk to these people
Speaker 1: with Clark turteen jobs not thirteen thirteen jobs. Actually, relax, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta relax. Don't you have a grab a bottle
Speaker 1: over here again? This is Panamanian Panamania. Shake your feet,
Speaker 1: don't stow that back the shake your feet. You don't
Speaker 1: know what Clark came from, Flatbush, Panama. Sleeker he got.
Speaker 1: Let you gotta gotta take out twenty years, my friend.
Speaker 1: You know out here in Miami they have flea markets.
Speaker 1: Um Coloseum was like a ficial flea market. Was official.
Speaker 1: He was official. But here you know the fleat mark
Speaker 1: he go to, it's very unofficial. He goes to home. Carol,
Speaker 1: I gotta throw that out there, Carol Man, the flat
Speaker 1: market we all lived up. You gotta relix. I know
Speaker 1: you racist Miami like I'm but sunny by, but Sunny
Speaker 1: slaps the flea market. Still don't think it's Jordan's right now?
Speaker 1: It is official, right now, Sunny. You ain't even get
Speaker 1: it from foot lock and you got it from your
Speaker 1: lock of it was you lock up? You gotta relax. Sunny.
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Speaker 1: with Rapper and R and DJA. So Clark, we answered
Speaker 1: you your favorite ever in the hip hop? Now what?
Speaker 1: And do you also said Rick Ross album was great? Yes,
Speaker 1: you said that this is best to me so far.
Speaker 1: I agree with you as well. But now I also
Speaker 1: said Drake's album? Did you know? You can't drink about great?
Speaker 1: But think about this? Okay, every Rick Ross album you
Speaker 1: listen to, you can pick something off of it and
Speaker 1: go maybe not that one. What do you mean I'm saying?
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I could say this is
Speaker 1: the best work because you can't take anything off of it.
Speaker 1: You gotta go now on that ships fired too. Now
Speaker 1: all that ship's fired too. Now all that ship's fired too,
Speaker 1: and he's talking on that ship. Is he the South
Speaker 1: Rick Ross? I mean South Biggie, He's Rick Ross. He
Speaker 1: don't don't compare to you can be compared anything. He anybody,
Speaker 1: anybody who compared him to Biggie was doing him a disservice,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because there there's no one's
Speaker 1: gonna be like that. We see him saying they were
Speaker 1: doing they were doing Ross disservice by trying to compare
Speaker 1: him to that like Rick Ross, by Rick Ross facts,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, And as Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: he's fucking bananas. Like his album is fired. It's not good,
Speaker 1: it's fired. I actually feel bad that, you know, the
Speaker 1: album came out a day before Drake's album, because it's
Speaker 1: like it didn't have the time to the albums a playlist.
Speaker 1: How do you think it's album. It's an album, so
Speaker 1: I don't care what if the ship I have a
Speaker 1: cover and it has credits and it has track lists.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking album. And the single fact, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, you you bring us the top
Speaker 1: of the podcast. One hit just one hit one one
Speaker 1: hit because you did Elliott Wilson before with all that ship.
Speaker 1: You knew me. Listen all that be honest. Three sixty
Speaker 1: you curbed me for I never curbed car. He's the
Speaker 1: old g You gotta let them, just like you know,
Speaker 1: everybody has stories in their head. Has nor read one
Speaker 1: hit Cloth one one for Panama was that boom boom.
Speaker 1: You know what, No, listen, here's some crazy shit. People
Speaker 1: look at that record and back then it was a
Speaker 1: Pana maion dude doing a reggae record. Guess what, that's reggae.
Speaker 1: That is the first form reggae. Don't got damn win
Speaker 1: good Boom boom boom boom that I relaxed to say
Speaker 1: it again. Doom doom be doom doom. Anyway, Man, keep going, man,
Speaker 1: where are we at? Let make yeah? So clow Jesus
Speaker 1: fucking Christ. Dude is nuts cloth you think, jeez, I
Speaker 1: gotta clock. I gotta go nowhere. Man, you've been in this,
Speaker 1: this this game. You animal bruis to this ship. Run man.
Speaker 1: So now I heard you the tweet where we grow.
Speaker 1: You tweeted that work gross album was fired fired. I
Speaker 1: saw that that tweet went viral. It did and my
Speaker 1: mind did. Okay, but but now Clark, what else is
Speaker 1: Clark can't like it's no school um. Contrary to what
Speaker 1: a lot of people might sink, me goes, fuck with me, goes,
Speaker 1: I fucking me gooes I funk with Young Doug. You know, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: The thing is when you sit behind it, When you
Speaker 1: sit I love dead wrong, this is I don't. When
Speaker 1: you sit behind the desk, you know, he DJ parties,
Speaker 1: that's brand. He gotta relax. Okay, okay, listen. When you
Speaker 1: sit behind the desk, you start to look at music differently.
Speaker 1: You don't look at music just for what you personally
Speaker 1: think you look for. Is it going to work whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not. It's whether it's gonna work
Speaker 1: or not. The first time I heard Young Thug, I
Speaker 1: thought he might have something. But then it was repeatedly, repeatedly,
Speaker 1: repeatedly that dude, you might not understand everything he's saying,
Speaker 1: but when he says it, somehow you can get to it.
Speaker 1: Young me goals. You know every time, I don't even
Speaker 1: know to take Molly. Listen, listen, I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: I just want to bet. I just want to be clear.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying these dudes spam bars. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is these dudes, these dudes are making records
Speaker 1: that I can actually like. And you know, trust me,
Speaker 1: there's a list of motherfucker's that I'm just like, what
Speaker 1: the funk is going on? But there's some dudes that
Speaker 1: get that, get put it that that that vein with
Speaker 1: all these other dudes that I'm looking at, like, why
Speaker 1: the fund are you making records? And when I look
Speaker 1: at them, I'm going, well, how can you put this
Speaker 1: guy in here when his records are better? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Let's just look at his records. If
Speaker 1: he can rap, let's just look at his records. To me,
Speaker 1: you're gonna here's where a lot of motherfuckers get shipped
Speaker 1: fucked up. They look at this rap thing like it's
Speaker 1: about having bars as much as it is about making records.
Speaker 1: When you're a rapper, your ship is to make records.
Speaker 1: When you're serious about you having boss. How about melodies, though,
Speaker 1: CLA your melodies help us? Melodies asked me. A question
Speaker 1: was carried in good melodies make better records and the
Speaker 1: reason why it's it's so simple when nobody looks at
Speaker 1: this ship. When you learned the first song that you
Speaker 1: ever learned was your A B c's. The only way
Speaker 1: you learned the A B c's was by singing it.
Speaker 1: It's a melody and a rhythm. So that's the reason
Speaker 1: why somebody with a good melody makes something and you
Speaker 1: catch it. That's what makes something catchy is the fact
Speaker 1: that you'll be out of my life. The fact that
Speaker 1: you heard a good melody makes it catchy. So when
Speaker 1: you hit no, no, no, you might have keeps talking
Speaker 1: about whatever you just the thing is, most people might
Speaker 1: not hear what he says. A different cousin expect that.
Speaker 1: Leave that right here. You respect this podcast with respect.
Speaker 1: Let that go. Let that go right now. It's your ship,
Speaker 1: your like. Yes, it's not it's not right, Radar, apologize
Speaker 1: for you're doing that first, because if you wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to do I've been trying to get you to do
Speaker 1: this for a while, Florida be here all the time.
Speaker 1: We got a butt definitely here. You shouldn't do now
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't say, we don't feel you the guy
Speaker 1: in my mind, I gotta budge we don't got it
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, yeah, chair, because I flew myself out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I have a thirty six hundred kicks.
Speaker 1: How does how do you maintain thirty six hundred sneakers?
Speaker 1: That's that's the I never had that question asking me
Speaker 1: before because I wear whatever is on the floor. But
Speaker 1: I see you, I see on the internet. You got
Speaker 1: white Claire. I got the needest that's my title. You
Speaker 1: talked to Joe, you talked to wild you talk the
Speaker 1: Greg screen, talk the fat Joe Clark. I got the need.
Speaker 1: I got the need at sneaker room in the world.
Speaker 1: But why is it white Claire boxes? I had unabundance
Speaker 1: of sneakers. I wear my sneakers. I want to see what.
Speaker 1: I want to grab what I'm saying pause. I want
Speaker 1: to if I'm looking for parts, I want to be
Speaker 1: able to find it. So in the box, I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be able to find all that. And I really
Speaker 1: don't sell sneakers. I don't resell sneakers. If I wanted
Speaker 1: to resell my sneakers, I got a million dollars sitting
Speaker 1: right there in my room. I got a million dollars
Speaker 1: sit in my room. No bullshit, I got a million
Speaker 1: dollars in my room. I got a million dollars and
Speaker 1: sneakers sitting in my room, so like I wanted to see,
Speaker 1: but I want to grab a pair of sneakers from
Speaker 1: two thousand three. I'm gonna go look for that pair
Speaker 1: of sneakers now because I've seen your ship like you
Speaker 1: had rolls. My ship looks like I'm looking and my
Speaker 1: set down Hunter square feet and the crazy ship. I
Speaker 1: know you. I know you from seeing you on the street.
Speaker 1: So when I see it on the end of that,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I never know you know, you
Speaker 1: had every sneaker I ever you had. I got undefeated
Speaker 1: for what's the ship, Michael J. Fox ship? Yeah I got?
Speaker 1: I got, Yeah, Yeah, I got the mart mc flowers.
Speaker 1: I got there's not sneakers and not sneakers one of
Speaker 1: those movie props. I was like, this is this is
Speaker 1: what me and Clark argue and we go at it
Speaker 1: from back. I would love to see that. It's a
Speaker 1: real argument sometimes like this, I believe there's a sneaker culture.
Speaker 1: Claude doesn't believes. Okay, okay, and we're gonna let Clark
Speaker 1: only Clark in investing because I said what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I want to investigate this before we dive into it.
Speaker 1: You said you believe there's a sneaker culture, and Clark
Speaker 1: said he does not leave because Clark is gonna bring it.
Speaker 1: I'm I can't answer for Clark, but I know what
Speaker 1: Clark is going with it, because we had this arguments
Speaker 1: a sneaker culture. You are gods, and we really argue
Speaker 1: on our posters. We really argue about this. I'm part
Speaker 1: of sneak of culture. I'm like a pond. I'm very
Speaker 1: low with a steak of culture. I go to the meetings,
Speaker 1: listen to your Jordan's segment was brought up everywhere in
Speaker 1: the world. I'm gonna have a listener to the podcast,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to hear that you're fisher. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I did shoot on but I also can't heard I
Speaker 1: can't wear them, So that lets you know what. I
Speaker 1: hate that. No, no, no, I respect Davis gonna say
Speaker 1: some ship and then boycott. Still I still want still
Speaker 1: don know you don't believe that we can argue about
Speaker 1: it because you're my brother and I love you, So
Speaker 1: I can't believe what he's saying right now. I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. You're saying it's not a sneaker culture.
Speaker 1: Nor yes, how many five percent is you know out
Speaker 1: of the laps? Huh? I know at least he's have
Speaker 1: a hundred people. You know what's crazy? People? I can
Speaker 1: say this without even looking at him. When he was
Speaker 1: growing up, at one point he was about to be
Speaker 1: five percent. I am father. Still, I was giving an
Speaker 1: act you people, father a law when I was young. Right,
Speaker 1: skip back when you look at that, and then you go,
Speaker 1: what's it really based off? It's based off of Islam?
Speaker 1: What is Islam? A culture? Right? How can you parallel sneakers,
Speaker 1: which is sneakers some ship that you wear on your
Speaker 1: feet to a culture a way of life. Culture is
Speaker 1: a way of life. It has laws, has a belief system,
Speaker 1: it has a financial system, and it has a spiritual system. Please,
Speaker 1: the word culture is a powerful word. Parallel lad to Islam,
Speaker 1: sneakers in Islam. Okay, we're done here, so equate that
Speaker 1: to you said hip hop culture, that is the way
Speaker 1: of life. You know you said culture, hip hop is
Speaker 1: a way of life. The same the dance finance. Everything
Speaker 1: said every money is finance. No no, but everything you said,
Speaker 1: everything you said, I understand me money because I believe
Speaker 1: there is a culture in the Okay, they show it
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I don't have the same definitions
Speaker 1: of you. I'm saying, but it is. But there's a
Speaker 1: way of life, but their subdivisions sneaking hold on. Listen
Speaker 1: to what I'm saying. Is he holding understanding? I hosted it?
Speaker 1: But listen to what I'm saying to you. If you
Speaker 1: say culture, you would be wrong. If you said subculture,
Speaker 1: we'd have a conversation. She is gonna bring it back.
Speaker 1: Run DMC puts up seven. When one DMC puts up
Speaker 1: his and tells everybody to put up their shell toes
Speaker 1: and they're seventeen thousand people are putting their shell toes,
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna attribute that to hip hop culture.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna attribute that to hip hop culture. What
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is, can you tell me when run
Speaker 1: DMC made that record, which nigger wasn't wearing Adidas? Think
Speaker 1: about this, Why can't you say, put everybody put your
Speaker 1: datas up when you when you're on the stage, if
Speaker 1: niggas wasn't wearing a So you're saying, so the sneaker
Speaker 1: culture is a subculture of hip hop no, sneakers culture
Speaker 1: is a sub cultured period. It's not a culture. It
Speaker 1: doesn't come first as a subculture by products. It's a
Speaker 1: byproduct of clothes. It's not even liked about product of fashions,
Speaker 1: which it's just it's a faction, which isn't a culture.
Speaker 1: It's fashion. It ship you win. It can't be a
Speaker 1: subculture of another exactly. So we're getting back to the
Speaker 1: same thing. I'm true culture. Okay, showing to the sneakers
Speaker 1: is a coach, but you have your love. How many
Speaker 1: hold on? No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: don't do this? Why because y'all God, that's it. Hold
Speaker 1: on as you know how many sneaker shows we do
Speaker 1: where he's fifteen and sixteen year sevent to ye old
Speaker 1: kids don't know you from nothing from music, but they
Speaker 1: praise the ground you walk on because it's sneakers. Answer yourself.
Speaker 1: You can answer that yourself. Why do that? I'm asking you?
Speaker 1: You can't do I created sneakers. I designed sneakers. I'm
Speaker 1: a guy who who is looked at and that's a
Speaker 1: culture to them because they don't know that you discovered ja.
Speaker 1: They don't know that you were saying jazz or was
Speaker 1: the best in the world. They don't know that you
Speaker 1: signed dies effects. They don't know that because making them effects.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's trying, but I'm right.
Speaker 1: But but your definition of culture, like if I was
Speaker 1: going Encyclopedia culture, what the way you define it is?
Speaker 1: That is the definition of culture, because that's the only
Speaker 1: way we can define what we're talking about. Okay, So
Speaker 1: then I guess we'll open a dictionary put these generations
Speaker 1: to color. Don't know who you are from music. They
Speaker 1: know who you was. Dictionaries that drinking we make. I'm
Speaker 1: the dicionary, he's the poor Okay, I'm gonna keep this funking.
Speaker 1: I learned people what I understand. I'm thinking I wanted
Speaker 1: to do that a long time. I understand what I
Speaker 1: understand to be culture from being one who has who's
Speaker 1: a spiritual person. So I learned it from a spiritual place.
Speaker 1: So if I learned it from a spiritual place, I
Speaker 1: can only look at what I understand to be culture
Speaker 1: in a spiritual place. With that aloom, huh, he said,
Speaker 1: you're right, but pulled up the definition of culture. I
Speaker 1: hate all of y'all. I gotta relax the claw right, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: read it again, read it again. Culture, The arts and
Speaker 1: other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. So these
Speaker 1: kids that don't know that you collect These kids collect
Speaker 1: don't know that you. They know you from sneakers. That
Speaker 1: is a culture. I am not looking at what you
Speaker 1: said and reading it properly. Read again, read it again. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not even drunk yet. I am drunk. The arts
Speaker 1: of other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collective hold
Speaker 1: on human intellectual achievement. Where when that goes back to English,
Speaker 1: stop read what you read and explain it, because you're
Speaker 1: not explaining it. It's so simple. They've read it to you.
Speaker 1: Look how my brother just called me a dumb too.
Speaker 1: How many people have so many clothes with it too?
Speaker 1: How many people listen what I did to understand what
Speaker 1: you just read? The art you have to you the
Speaker 1: reading yoursends the arts, and you're proving it to me.
Speaker 1: The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual stop right
Speaker 1: there and stopping the arts and what other manifestations of
Speaker 1: human intellectual achievement? He regarded collective pull one collectively human
Speaker 1: intellectual achievements and just for the joint. Wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, let's take
Speaker 1: let's take a call up. Let's take a few steps back.
Speaker 1: What are sneakers? Shoes? Right? Shoes or something you wear
Speaker 1: right to protect your feet from the elements? Right? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: Where is what was it again? Okay? Cool? I'm done here.
Speaker 1: Like you read at yourself that you can't just say this.
Speaker 1: You got very professional, just did you hold on your
Speaker 1: reason for love of shoes and your reason for doing
Speaker 1: this is because they protect your feet because and that's
Speaker 1: totally different whether we're talking about the bottom line. If
Speaker 1: you just let me just read, you would be wrong.
Speaker 1: I know, I would be all right, says I would
Speaker 1: be right. You'll just prove thatllec. But when you go intellect,
Speaker 1: you gotta go intellect on different level. Seventeen year olds
Speaker 1: and not gonna have my forty four year old. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you did again. You're gonna be wrong again. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ fucking read this ship I read. Are we
Speaker 1: doing this on the podcast? That's what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not losing a right not hollo hollo.
Speaker 1: Wait wait waita becomes wait wait wait a personal thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean I just want to reso no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what I just walked back with him for what you read?
Speaker 1: Did he lose the human intellectional part? I see how
Speaker 1: sneak is thank you very fucking What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Just define that you'll disagree with me. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this as Listen. Everything that you're going to
Speaker 1: get that human and that's intellectual, is going to make
Speaker 1: you smarter. So the shoe is not gonna make you smart.
Speaker 1: It's fucking shoes, Yo, It's shoes so whack I I
Speaker 1: can't argue it. Understand me. Yes, yeah, I swear to
Speaker 1: God like this is real nigga ship. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to We're gonna have such of Instagram and Twitter war
Speaker 1: between this because and we're still them with all due respects. Listen,
Speaker 1: talk to the people. There are people hate hats. That's
Speaker 1: why that's why you wanted to come so bad. Base,
Speaker 1: that's why you wanted to be here so bad. No, No,
Speaker 1: because I get tired of you saying this is not
Speaker 1: a coach when it's a question. Get tired of what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you're proper and we all view about this,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't even get that. But
Speaker 1: back to what I'm saying is there are people who
Speaker 1: are more enthusiastically and I'm one of those guys who's enthusiast,
Speaker 1: more enthusiastic than usual. I don't believe that I'm some
Speaker 1: superhero because I like shoes more than the next guy.
Speaker 1: You know why, because I don't know a person who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a pair of sneakers. So what do you
Speaker 1: tell that young kids? No, No, what do you tell
Speaker 1: that young kid that doesn't know who What do you
Speaker 1: tell that young kid who doesn't know who you are
Speaker 1: based on music, who loves you for sneakers and goes
Speaker 1: to your sneaker convention. I supposed to tell them you're
Speaker 1: their hero, you're their idol. And I don't tell him
Speaker 1: anything wrong. I tell him, to them, you're the culture
Speaker 1: of sneakers. To them, you're the culture. We just experienced
Speaker 1: that in Niketown. Just now, my nigger I've walked out
Speaker 1: and he was taking pictures, but then they still didn't
Speaker 1: talk to you. Dude started talking to you about sneakers,
Speaker 1: and then started rapping to you. You are his life.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, hold on, and I wrong, you're his life.
Speaker 1: The guy who you guy who started rapping to me
Speaker 1: didn't talk to me about sneakers all. Do you know
Speaker 1: what he was like? He was like, oh, that's a nick.
Speaker 1: Can't Nick might put me on if he thinks I'm nice.
Speaker 1: So I just cannot wrap for you. He didn't speak
Speaker 1: to me about sneakers at all. About sneakers, Well, that's
Speaker 1: you dog. You know why, because you're a sneaker fucking superhero.
Speaker 1: We're together because we're friends. We're not together because of sneak. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we don't even talk to we don't even talk about
Speaker 1: we don't talk about some angry sneakers. So my question,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is my brother for five years.
Speaker 1: We really are understand right now we talk about right now,
Speaker 1: I don't even understand what we're talking about, sneak because
Speaker 1: we're here for you. Planned on the text. I know
Speaker 1: you did. I show you're fired. There's let's go. No,
Speaker 1: that's a choice. Is tattoos right? Wait? Wait, you know
Speaker 1: what you just said. Say it again. People people takes no, no, no,
Speaker 1: people think it's a culture. Say that that's the truth.
Speaker 1: You don't think sneaker. I think are some people who
Speaker 1: are more enthusiastic about sneakers than others. I'm one of
Speaker 1: those guys, just one of It's not a hobby, but no, listen,
Speaker 1: I just want to get myself out of the clip.
Speaker 1: My ship is and I've proven it. I just want
Speaker 1: to be fresh. That's it. My sneakers get dirty, I
Speaker 1: damn D and hate him. I don't clean sneakers. I
Speaker 1: don't play that ship. I got enough sneakers. I'm not
Speaker 1: cleaning my sneak because because I have so many sneakers,
Speaker 1: I want to fucking wear them. So what do I do?
Speaker 1: I wear them? Get his ships away? Why? Because I
Speaker 1: got enough sneakers that I could wear a brand new pair.
Speaker 1: Why do I have so much? Because when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I wanted to be as fresh as the
Speaker 1: older guy. Listen. So when I got some money, when
Speaker 1: I got some money, how about as many pair of
Speaker 1: sneakers as I possibly could? Why? Because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be fresh? That's it. Because I heard about a story.
Speaker 1: You had an exclusive pair of something something something something,
Speaker 1: and the lust of rhymes saw you said, Yo, those
Speaker 1: you took your sneakers off. He told you that, and
Speaker 1: you gave him the bust that I told you. I
Speaker 1: never heard I did. We We were um, we were
Speaker 1: on the two were on puff talk and we went
Speaker 1: to Portland. No way, I told him we went to
Speaker 1: Portland and I um, I knew the people that Nike saw.
Speaker 1: I went to I got visited Nike. What it was
Speaker 1: in poland listen to a long He says he knows
Speaker 1: the Nike people, but got what the I love it
Speaker 1: to do anything right now. I want to make noise
Speaker 1: for you being the big nig for a long time.
Speaker 1: God damnit, big hold me in the sneak again. Goddamn
Speaker 1: it for a long time to continue. I'm sorry. So
Speaker 1: we'll happened to call. I went to Nike. I hung
Speaker 1: out with my boy. My boy gave me some shoes.
Speaker 1: I asked him for shoes for everybody. I bought shoes back.
Speaker 1: I gave shoes to whomever. Um. I was wearing a
Speaker 1: pair of yellow Air Force ones and bust. You know,
Speaker 1: bus was very colorful like that for sex moment. All
Speaker 1: these ship was super colorful. He saw the shoes and
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, where the fun did you get dolls?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you want them, you got them,
Speaker 1: So I just took him off and gave them to
Speaker 1: him because we couldn't wear nikes when he was on
Speaker 1: stage at that point anyway, because we were wearing all
Speaker 1: black side with black tempts. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: you can take I get took him off and give
Speaker 1: them to him. Where did you hear that? I gotta
Speaker 1: get it. I want to know where you're hearing from
Speaker 1: because I never heard this storm know everything. I gotta
Speaker 1: a man. I didn't want to relax because story back,
Speaker 1: we gotta stop. We gotta stop because because people think
Speaker 1: I'm really serious, said Joe. For y'all, EF, I want
Speaker 1: your anniversary. We did some crazy ship. We started off
Speaker 1: our first episode with Kenny Anderson and Fat Joe was
Speaker 1: the first one and he between that but first one
Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson because I loved you. I know Chimber last episode?
Speaker 1: Did you call him Chills? Ye call the chill. I
Speaker 1: don't call him chips, you call him I called him Chimber. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I call him chill. But city queens for us to
Speaker 1: how do I know that? How do I know that?
Speaker 1: Because you because whatever right there? He's funny because used
Speaker 1: the DJ and Clark Park in the Bronx. Hold hold
Speaker 1: you got cut off? He said, Because I'm a real
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna. I'm gonna getting Bronx claim too.
Speaker 1: I used to be all over, let's get it, come on, nor,
Speaker 1: let's go where we at? So now, oh boy, before
Speaker 1: we get up out of here. Oh oh, so this
Speaker 1: is the last one. He's just he's a little tipsy.
Speaker 1: And so you also worked with Foxy Brown a little Kim, Right, wait,
Speaker 1: who's your cousin? Foxxy Anger? And he knows that, don't
Speaker 1: don't let him act like you don't know that. So
Speaker 1: you also work with both. I never made a record
Speaker 1: on my cousin? Is that crazy? But how powerful would
Speaker 1: it be at Foxy at a little Kim, Like at
Speaker 1: this very moment right now. If Foxy and Little Kim
Speaker 1: got together at this moment this, it'll probably be really
Speaker 1: really cool. About five years ago, it would have been nuts.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because when we say nuts, you're saying
Speaker 1: like that because you know, four, like five, six years ago,
Speaker 1: who was the girl? It was almost like we were
Speaker 1: looking for the girl, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: the magic imagine if out of nowhere you got Fox
Speaker 1: and Thulming Louise. And the funny part is like, it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who got spoken to about that,
Speaker 1: but I actually had the ability to do it, and
Speaker 1: back then they actually had a sauce cover right right,
Speaker 1: And the idea was would have been Tholming Louise, Why
Speaker 1: we can't make that happen, Let's make treats. Makes it
Speaker 1: loyal treat chair listen. I see them both recently. No,
Speaker 1: I'm lying. I think Kim recently. I spoke to Fox
Speaker 1: on the phone, but I think that I think they
Speaker 1: should do that for hip hop, fuck anything else. I
Speaker 1: would be legend like like, y'all beat your whole career,
Speaker 1: who want your kid together? Let can't produce the ship?
Speaker 1: There you go and man the intu. I would produce
Speaker 1: it and let Clark and you know what I would
Speaker 1: rather do. I'd rather be the executive producer or a
Speaker 1: R on it so I can make the records. I
Speaker 1: would rather find the music you got de scribe for
Speaker 1: our listeners. What's the difference from producing and then being
Speaker 1: an executive producer? Um A good executive producer, A good
Speaker 1: executive producer, executive produces the records and make sure that
Speaker 1: the records get made. We gotta relax. Come up, looks
Speaker 1: it was about to take it from you. A good
Speaker 1: executive producers the guy who's one of the guys who's
Speaker 1: making the records. But a great and our is the
Speaker 1: guy who makes sure the records get done. That's the
Speaker 1: guy who finds the helps finds the music and helps
Speaker 1: find the great records, helps helps make or make sure
Speaker 1: that the hook is a great song. You know, a
Speaker 1: great hook. So when you're listening to it, when someone
Speaker 1: artists comes back and he sits in front of you
Speaker 1: and he plays your album. If the album comes out
Speaker 1: and it's not good, a lot of people want to
Speaker 1: blame it on the artists, a lot of people want
Speaker 1: to blame it on producers. But who they really should
Speaker 1: blame it on is the guy who's doing artists in repertoire,
Speaker 1: because it's your job to make sure the album is
Speaker 1: BA and and I shouldn't blamed for it. But it's
Speaker 1: and and all still even relevant nowadays, because that's a
Speaker 1: really good question. But let's think for a second. If
Speaker 1: the album's whack, then and is very relevant, great fu
Speaker 1: the great fucking album's dope. I gotta hit with that
Speaker 1: question I got. I got actually relaxed because you hit
Speaker 1: me fuck up good and it's gonna make a good record.
Speaker 1: I eat that serious, you know by that effects? What's
Speaker 1: the what's the like is good? He's very good. He's
Speaker 1: a very good and great Lenny as Lenny. Oh he's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, can you name more and
Speaker 1: more good? And ours? Um Jeff Sledge, he's a good
Speaker 1: as crazy that who's that? I gotta I gotta k
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Keith Murray like he was at job. He
Speaker 1: was a job, was one of the very best. And
Speaker 1: ours face no man, oh not Columbia. It's just stop right.
Speaker 1: Faith Nas. Actually he's the first person who signed Campona
Speaker 1: Noriega was the first people she signed live she chilled
Speaker 1: to three years and actually I sucked that whole story up.
Speaker 1: She signed Capone, Capon Paul, She signed Capone, and I
Speaker 1: came home about six months after that. You gotta lack,
Speaker 1: we don't have no more. Finish your story, Paco and Faith. Faith.
Speaker 1: I got this is Miami should be rich somewhere living
Speaker 1: in her life. Goddamnit, big o Faith Newman, goddamn it
Speaker 1: because you know why. It didn't matter that she put
Speaker 1: on me a capone, she put on nah, she put
Speaker 1: on nothing. Nas set it up for us, morb, d uh, screwball,
Speaker 1: lost boys. Everybody to come after that and eat. And
Speaker 1: that's what the funk we did. And Slive is still
Speaker 1: on that same meal. I just you know I had.
Speaker 1: I had. It was like a Thanksgiving meal for me.
Speaker 1: So I turkey, the gnarly analogy, sweet potatoes over there.
Speaker 1: I wasn't leaving. Let me take I guess what I
Speaker 1: was on wheels in the and the problem. We did
Speaker 1: audio too. We didn't like yo yo, we did Michelle,
Speaker 1: we did facts, we didn't vote, took a little the
Speaker 1: shot for that. We need another shot for that. One
Speaker 1: year for Sea, We're gonna take a light shot. I'm
Speaker 1: almost like, that's not like st like, give me a
Speaker 1: light shot. I'm your brother. You must say it right now,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. Let me ask you this, no
Speaker 1: disrespect right. And you talked about the dose effects came
Speaker 1: with the album. How much did you have to a
Speaker 1: and R at that album. Well, you have to after
Speaker 1: after you get an album, you have to know when
Speaker 1: it's right to drop it. What's the best record. Did
Speaker 1: you shave records off? No? No, it's not about shaving records.
Speaker 1: Office about picking the best records that go. Yeah, so pickings,
Speaker 1: they want your DJ Djack. You know what's crazy? Um, Honestly,
Speaker 1: in my heart, I believe DJs who I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: believe good DJs can make the best and ours. And
Speaker 1: the reason why is because good DJs can teach you
Speaker 1: about a new record. You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: can show you by the way, this is the record.
Speaker 1: Just listening, keep listening, keep listening, keep listening. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because if if a dude has a
Speaker 1: mixed show and he has a bunch of dudes who
Speaker 1: has a bunch of records that no one has, and
Speaker 1: he's deciding I'm gonna play this artist, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that guy has the ability to break
Speaker 1: that artist. And if he can break that artist, he's
Speaker 1: doing something right. If he can look at the landscape
Speaker 1: of music that's out and say I picked this, I
Speaker 1: picked that, I picked this, and then play it in
Speaker 1: his mix show and make people happy about the mix show.
Speaker 1: That guy knows how to pick records, so he should.
Speaker 1: And I'm being clear when I say he should be
Speaker 1: able to pick a new artist, so he should be
Speaker 1: able to hear a dope beat and say this artist
Speaker 1: should have that beat. It would make sense if they
Speaker 1: were singing or rapper on such. If he's not a
Speaker 1: good If he's not a good DJ, he's not even
Speaker 1: thinking about that. All he cares about is playing clubs.
Speaker 1: If he's a good DJ, he cares about what the
Speaker 1: music is gonna sound like in the next two days.
Speaker 1: I don't even call it tastemakers, because they put tastemakers
Speaker 1: in a totally different thing. My thing is a good
Speaker 1: DJ should be teaching the crowd about something which most
Speaker 1: DJs don't do well. I'm not one Joe Club. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just not most. But then again,
Speaker 1: you know the ones who aren't most are the ones
Speaker 1: who are still here. I've been here for a long
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Japanese connection. What about it. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of Japanese nittas. I love Clokhead. Is
Speaker 1: that okay? You gotta clokhad you gotta clokhat? Lot of
Speaker 1: japanesgue I've done. I've done a few collaborations with what
Speaker 1: companies did Lafayette collaborator? I did three, four, I did
Speaker 1: about four or five Lafayette collaborations. Ascribe to these people, Okay,
Speaker 1: Lafayette is inscribed described, but it's scribere inscribing and inscribing
Speaker 1: at the same time. What is scribing? I understand what inscribing?
Speaker 1: What is disagree with it works? Okay, it's a drink
Speaker 1: chance language. You see over when you learning LA brands
Speaker 1: that are super duper popular, and then they're still on
Speaker 1: the ground level and they're still like, you know, there's
Speaker 1: still like Gritty and Street, you got the Black Scales,
Speaker 1: You've got the Supremes and such. You go over to Japan.
Speaker 1: Lafayette is one of those brands. Lafayete's a brand with
Speaker 1: like six stores or whatever and selling a bunch of
Speaker 1: ship and I've done at least you have five collapse
Speaker 1: with them. At least so Supremes from Japan, Supremes from
Speaker 1: New York. Okay, but they popping in Japan on the
Speaker 1: Supremus popping around the universe. Bigger Supreme Teacher is going
Speaker 1: for a lot of money on the internet right now.
Speaker 1: Nor he has all of them. They need selling. I
Speaker 1: need this as large place definitely you got it. You
Speaker 1: see that smiles. That's the I'm like, smile. I need
Speaker 1: that listened them. I didn't want to inventory did I
Speaker 1: say that? I lou, I need that definition of those
Speaker 1: You got somewhere again, somewhere in my life in your mind.
Speaker 1: You got me in my life, in my life. So Clark,
Speaker 1: you work a bit. Yes you worked with Jack, Yes
Speaker 1: you work with Rick Ross work or nas. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have that. I wanted to to the funny
Speaker 1: Ship is the day that I explained to him about
Speaker 1: the about that thing we was on that on the
Speaker 1: revote cruise. He was like, YO, give me something. Let's
Speaker 1: do something new. And he knew that I was gonna
Speaker 1: sunk with Davis because I'm gonna I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: record for Davis. So he's like, he's like yoo for
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, you funk with him. I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: fused with Davies. He's like, yo, you know, send me something.
Speaker 1: So he was like for me to set up something
Speaker 1: with trade numbers or whatever, summer set up something. But
Speaker 1: but that's the crest he's so well be Nas. Yeah. NAS.
Speaker 1: Top five Top five, Top five that God keep from queens.
Speaker 1: I understand you're saying that. No, I mean, why don't
Speaker 1: have another shot? Because we didn't? Because you never drink that.
Speaker 1: We didn't. We weren't a part of that. We should
Speaker 1: stop south south tope that you're my brother? Now we
Speaker 1: got man, you're not gonna win this art? Are we
Speaker 1: a part of that shot? We weren't. That was come on,
Speaker 1: that was you talamily, brother. You gotta relax. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all respect them. Y'all gotta relax. That was y'all ship
Speaker 1: with each other. Take a shot. Do what you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: ask the queer. I wouldn't know. My family's heard. I
Speaker 1: would agree with you, right, I would say this is
Speaker 1: like a Latino thing. But the thing about it all things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what I say. You just want to get
Speaker 1: another shot? Give another shot together? No? Ye? Can I spection?
Speaker 1: What are you doing after? I'm going to see Clark
Speaker 1: K But wait, what are you doing after this? I'm
Speaker 1: going home? What are you doing after this? I'm going
Speaker 1: to see my brother DJ. That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to seeking work and I'm gonna buy you
Speaker 1: to do right now. That's what I'm doing right now
Speaker 1: you're working. It will be done in like ten minutes.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna go see you afterwards. I'm going to
Speaker 1: see you, but you'll be hanging while I'm working. But
Speaker 1: I gotta also keep my life together because you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep my mone So very typical moment
Speaker 1: with a very typical moment. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta control,
Speaker 1: we gotta control our environment, and then we gotta and
Speaker 1: then you know, we gotta do clock. We have to
Speaker 1: behave ourselves. There's a curve here, and guess what cloth
Speaker 1: for the Listen. We are getting people back for the
Speaker 1: cold crushed brothers, right, We're getting them back to them. Yes,
Speaker 1: getting back what he means, it's getting people back for
Speaker 1: what they did to the brothers. Right. I like that.
Speaker 1: You got to relax. Let's get it next time. Do
Speaker 1: you think I'm not gonna say what I said? You
Speaker 1: have question, Let's go listen, and we're doing it in
Speaker 1: the name of hip your cloth. You know, we never
Speaker 1: had no faithing to go on Drink Chaps. You're never
Speaker 1: started to tony people on drink champ. You know why
Speaker 1: I'm every episode because you know why we really want
Speaker 1: to pick up authentic original hip hop, and what is
Speaker 1: saying on your fucking hat the originals? You guess you're ready.
Speaker 1: You want any port you know what, dn't do it,
Speaker 1: but you can't want to go and I'm in with you.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, you lights show that, the light skins show
Speaker 1: before my stomach. That's a shop. That's what I know.
Speaker 1: You felt bad doing that, you know? He was like,
Speaker 1: was I called? He was like, I didn't know way
Speaker 1: you're calling them for. I do look good, but I
Speaker 1: didn't feel bad because you curbed me. I never curved you.
Speaker 1: You did. I was gonna be honest. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. Let me tell you something about
Speaker 1: soul with people. It's a d I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show it to him, he wrote. I
Speaker 1: wrote him. He was like, I gotta get called on
Speaker 1: the podcast and I was like, absolutely, I'm down, but
Speaker 1: don't forget I know you poppy, So as soon as
Speaker 1: they sell the poppy is when he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: forget it. I'm gonna be honest. I believe that. Wait
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait wait, pol you said about plastic for
Speaker 1: how long? Seven months? Because it took seven months to
Speaker 1: him to go, oh ship, you're gonna do these nigga
Speaker 1: podcast That's what he was eating petty nor at all.
Speaker 1: If I was that important to be on the podcast,
Speaker 1: I would have been thirty seconds. Take your shot. That's
Speaker 1: terribly good. It's too good. The blessed vocket on the
Speaker 1: planet know that. That is so funny. Because I wanted
Speaker 1: this podcast to happen so bad. I text Normy. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he got thirty six hundred one
Speaker 1: just along beside you with uh well said everything else.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that you got right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: he's acorn him Nike. Do you see Acron. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: die this, dude. You gotta hook up. Clark got the
Speaker 1: hook up, but I'm dirty stick. I got the hook
Speaker 1: up on the Dirty Ticker Club. Whatever the fund. That's God,
Speaker 1: that's me, not for dumb hard. That was texting regular like, Yo,
Speaker 1: Clark is gonna be in Miami this weekend? What's up?
Speaker 1: I want? I was ready, I'm seeing, I was ready.
Speaker 1: I was ready, we were I was ready, we saw
Speaker 1: and I was on. Didn't work out that way. I text,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't have a bother normy,
Speaker 1: I text normally I check this out. Clock is gonna
Speaker 1: be in Miami this weekend? What's up? I want to
Speaker 1: make this happen. This FIGI but from a different and
Speaker 1: yes here lying that's it's not even Fucci, it's not
Speaker 1: even cold. That's blacks bottomed water. Who was that for you?
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I thought we were making drinks. I
Speaker 1: didn't know, like we're gonna make like my hat? Are you?
Speaker 1: I'll take a drink with your your clock. Now, let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Why are you getting pottle
Speaker 1: of water to put tapwater ice in it? Cool? I
Speaker 1: don't need to ice from the Jesus? Would you do
Speaker 1: that for you? Just my pig water experience? You know?
Speaker 1: You know I'm from the resource froom. You know the
Speaker 1: niggas in the resource room and especial education. That's that's
Speaker 1: the one I am. I'm that nigger. I have four
Speaker 1: teachers and four students. It was even were both you
Speaker 1: said four and he said, we're both with easy. I'm
Speaker 1: the most of this thing in the world. You're the smartest.
Speaker 1: That's why they want to kill me. Listen, I'm just
Speaker 1: like those junk They're gonna John left Kennedy meaning, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, listen, they're gonna let you live because they're like,
Speaker 1: that's his man. I feel like they're gonna kill me.
Speaker 1: I got you mean it was both. He was at
Speaker 1: four and four and then he was like both of them.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, who the funk are you talking about
Speaker 1: both groups? Exactly? I'm talking about both groups. I got
Speaker 1: to see. I got what you was talking about. To
Speaker 1: tell you I understood what you was talking. Resource from crazy,
Speaker 1: the super resource from you know what I'm saying, cla
Speaker 1: that was the funniest ship ever. Claude, you did drink champs.
Speaker 1: You survived. Never bring about any of your person ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot. Get them over lax, and
Speaker 1: you're looking at me and your lips are getting a
Speaker 1: little white. That's how I'm so glad there's a camera
Speaker 1: that because they could not that my lips ain't getting white.
Speaker 1: You know in my mind in your left scout, what
Speaker 1: person you can't ask me that I can't be? Really,
Speaker 1: you've been there for me for when I stepped into
Speaker 1: this game. I love you stood there with me. And
Speaker 1: there was one producer on the whole War report because
Speaker 1: I used to carry it to five on me and
Speaker 1: I said, rom and not on producer set. And he
Speaker 1: was the only one. She said, when he told you
Speaker 1: to relax, you have the two five in your pocket
Speaker 1: in the booth, and they had to five all the time.
Speaker 1: Now now he's probably he's like, don't tell them that clock.
Speaker 1: He was the only one. And he told me, he said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the room and I'm gonna chopping up.
Speaker 1: And that's the first time I've ever seen that in
Speaker 1: my life that I could actually rom and get it
Speaker 1: all out and one one whatever. But he could take
Speaker 1: that and say, well that scope stairs on some pluck Q.
Speaker 1: So after after that advice, you kept doing that that way.
Speaker 1: No listen to his records after that one record, after
Speaker 1: that he understood song song progression. It was verse verse
Speaker 1: verse hook verse hook verse hook. Think about it because
Speaker 1: after that album? What album you what album you made?
Speaker 1: You took your advice? Let me up because I gotta
Speaker 1: sucking DJ. Now I gotta go change nor fucking champage. Listen,
Speaker 1: when you dj't, nobody's gonna see your right thigh. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna see it right now. When you DJ, he's gone
Speaker 1: right it wasn't me open that. I'm good. I'm I'm good.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta I'm so hot right you got over last?
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Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J.
Speaker 1: Then Clark, it was really really nice to listen to
Speaker 1: listen to me everybody. It was really one of the
Speaker 1: first producers who actually pulled me to the side and says, Slim,
Speaker 1: understand what you doing. I get it, but let me
Speaker 1: structure your ship. And it was you. You to a
Speaker 1: lot of people credit you know, for real or swear,
Speaker 1: but they came in R a album that's dope here.
Speaker 1: But you were still learning because one of one of
Speaker 1: the stories, no I'm gonnaell you, I'm still learning. No No.
Speaker 1: But one of the stories that I love from an
Speaker 1: R is that you say that he was counting bars
Speaker 1: with what what what what? And that's what I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that story. That's how counting it balls. But
Speaker 1: think about it, So claud get executive producer credit for
Speaker 1: that absolutely now he's not going to give that up
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna look for the check to go
Speaker 1: come me for that. But the bottom line, I get
Speaker 1: what you're trying to say. You're trying to say is
Speaker 1: that moment gave you the ability to look at your
Speaker 1: songs differently and and think songs instead of thinking I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be rhyman. I get yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I respected and because think about it, the War Report,
Speaker 1: what happened? What? What? What? What? What? How? Long after
Speaker 1: every sixteen bars, sixteen bars? What? What? What? Sixteen bars? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: That was the same sixteen bar breakup that I I
Speaker 1: don't like to say taught. I'd rather say talk about it.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, now you know why, because
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe that. Um. I just believe
Speaker 1: it was something that he didn't he didn't know. But
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a taught. It was an
Speaker 1: enlightened I'm like, yo, look, if you do this, it's
Speaker 1: a song when you The thing is when you listen
Speaker 1: to Ward Report, like I can go back to World Report,
Speaker 1: and if you listen to the World Report, that's a
Speaker 1: bunch of wild ass records. And then this is one
Speaker 1: record that makes you go, oh, I get it, I
Speaker 1: get all of that wild ship. When you listen to
Speaker 1: Closer to this paper, you just do because it calms
Speaker 1: you down and you can hear what he's saying and
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, before you're just like, I'm as wild
Speaker 1: as this monthfucking right here. But then we you listen
Speaker 1: to that, you're like, hold up, he stopped for a second,
Speaker 1: and he gave you closer to this. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was it was it added that balance.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what's even crazier. It was the last record.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because honestly, when it comes
Speaker 1: to UM producing sometimes I can be a little competitive.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to hear everything and figure out
Speaker 1: what can I do that's going to be different from
Speaker 1: everything I heard? And everything I heard I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is damn easy. You know why, because the reason
Speaker 1: why he came to me was to try to get
Speaker 1: a single. He was like, YO, give me a single,
Speaker 1: So I gave him a single. Funny ship is it
Speaker 1: wasn't him as a single, so they went with something
Speaker 1: else and it worked out because it was him by himself,
Speaker 1: So it couldn't be a CNN record. If it was
Speaker 1: him by himself, that record was on War Report, it
Speaker 1: could have been a single. But it didn't make sense
Speaker 1: to put the CNN record out out without pom So.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's the way that worked out.
Speaker 1: Trust me. If that record had component on it, that
Speaker 1: probably would have been for a single, because it was
Speaker 1: it was structured like a record, like a single. Yes
Speaker 1: it was. And that that's what the that's what he
Speaker 1: came to me for. He's like, give me a saying
Speaker 1: need single? So scared and he was scared and and
Speaker 1: but the funny hand and the chicks from from s
Speaker 1: W re coming to the studio. I wasn't ready just
Speaker 1: kidding because the young dudes, you know, and he's not
Speaker 1: when not saying tell you what, Yeah, this is Clark.
Speaker 1: This is the guy I heard Dange. We didn't even
Speaker 1: go to that. We haven't even touched that at my
Speaker 1: going there right now. You have to have that's the
Speaker 1: same way you ain't going to day of the day.
Speaker 1: Day I got your brother. Can't tell him if you
Speaker 1: don't make to do that, I got you, what about you? God? Never,
Speaker 1: I won't even touch it. Every thrust to give me
Speaker 1: back so that it's getting close up. It's getting close up,
Speaker 1: never gonna happen. So in my mind, damn Dann Dan
Speaker 1: kiss coming because obviously the biggest day of the day
Speaker 1: slick Rick fans in the world. Me I mentioned the
Speaker 1: slick Rick is my favorite album. It's my favorite album ever.
Speaker 1: And then clock coming text and the nose name. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so every produce to the every cage for the word
Speaker 1: for like I wanted to shoot them. So you're answering
Speaker 1: my question five was always on you. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just like, shut up, that's whole, Like yeah, I
Speaker 1: just like I felt like that coming there, so I
Speaker 1: felt like that. I felt like I felt like what
Speaker 1: when Clark came? He and Clark, but it felt like
Speaker 1: an O G type of call. I felt like, look,
Speaker 1: do that. I get that you got because he played
Speaker 1: the beat and I was just like, let's go because
Speaker 1: that's what I did, uh, the firm ship with the
Speaker 1: firm ship plane, I did so I flu flu fluid
Speaker 1: and I used to write around to jail, so I
Speaker 1: had you're working at the timeline for me, at what
Speaker 1: point you did I'm leaving in I'm leaving was right
Speaker 1: after the War report, right a report like that report
Speaker 1: report is out, like right after you finished the Worried
Speaker 1: Boys out, Okay, because so it's out and then you
Speaker 1: go do that. Okay, No, no, no, I'm just nor
Speaker 1: because you know what the crazy the crazy part is
Speaker 1: Noriega is hot or Nori's hot by himself because pone
Speaker 1: is locked up. So he on the promo run in Miami.
Speaker 1: That's me. I'm just saying that. That's how we want,
Speaker 1: that's how we meet. The promo run in Miami. He's doing,
Speaker 1: he's he's he comes to my store and I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's ever told you this. He was super
Speaker 1: stressed promoting War Report by himself, the fact some of
Speaker 1: my store super stressed. How wait, why would I know that?
Speaker 1: And he's not my artist because he's my fucking in.
Speaker 1: So I know it wasn't easy promoting CNN when only
Speaker 1: the end is there and then the seed can't speak
Speaker 1: for the seed and the sea to trust me, I
Speaker 1: don't even know, like if in his heart he really
Speaker 1: wanted to be Nory by himself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't ever think that you trust me
Speaker 1: when the first time I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's because campone is locked up. He don't want to
Speaker 1: do a solo and it's just that CNN Ward Report
Speaker 1: was so looked at that. She was like, no, that ship.
Speaker 1: It's almost like he had no choice because he had
Speaker 1: to hold it down. But hours around taking over a
Speaker 1: drink chap. Should we jump on now or later? We
Speaker 1: could jump up during the show. We still we still
Speaker 1: have to go to the day to day. You're not
Speaker 1: even drunk about day to day. Man, I'm not drunk
Speaker 1: and I'm not drunk. I don't know how I'm not
Speaker 1: drunk yet. But nothing. Have a shot. Let's do it
Speaker 1: on the shot. We could do all three talking. It's
Speaker 1: the table thing. No, I'm going, Oh God, trust me,
Speaker 1: I don't leave here, and it's definitely I might be
Speaker 1: a drink and listening. You pull much shot whatever way
Speaker 1: hand met hand cup. I'm not fat so that Tony
Speaker 1: Duver twenty minutes, Rich Toy and Dnis can take twenty
Speaker 1: minutes extra nights was shot? Who I love? Who came
Speaker 1: to me told me how to do a show? Here
Speaker 1: you go, brother? You you let me four o clocks?
Speaker 1: Hold on, where's your cup? Clock? Told me how to
Speaker 1: do a show every time, expect leg right. Now you
Speaker 1: live without broking weed And he was like, I hate
Speaker 1: that you always hung out with me, clok Kit. Tonight
Speaker 1: we're gonna fucking respect you. Thank you, you man, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna sucking honor you tonight. Clark can parry that
Speaker 1: maybe the USA you a an accident where you didn't
Speaker 1: you understand that it's not a He's very offendive. This
Speaker 1: is this is this is the au star of hip
Speaker 1: hop are mine? And you know what, you are one
Speaker 1: of the most DJs that week. You're the most DJs,
Speaker 1: all of the most dj ever whatever that means you
Speaker 1: would have ever those DJs. I actually liked it, I know,
Speaker 1: but you're coming at me a little bit. You were
Speaker 1: the most, the most every guy. So listen, Clark, We're
Speaker 1: gonna honor you tonight. Continue to sucking on you because
Speaker 1: you know why, why you fucking deserved. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I don't know what I'm about to
Speaker 1: salute with you. You get your pulling you a heavy shot.
Speaker 1: Let's go get I listened everybody every week. I listen,
Speaker 1: listen face, I pull off my baby mos on the
Speaker 1: bad everybody watching. Fuck it, let's go. I am not
Speaker 1: going to cover that anybody. I am so happy. That's
Speaker 1: all you. That's all that's that's that's all. Clocks shout
Speaker 1: to the shout to mayor, the poor oh man claw.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be destroyed by the time you're gonna record night.
Speaker 1: What is the breast brands sneak the best sneaker brand?
Speaker 1: That's nice. I gotta st I like that. What's the
Speaker 1: what's the best brand? Like brand like that? Uh, that's
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do this. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: simply some ship. But get it. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna question. I need that my brother. Listen,
Speaker 1: ho hold on, hold on, let me interject real quick. Noorious, no, no,
Speaker 1: what's you got? But you haven't to make a conversation conversation?
Speaker 1: What's how's you with? No? No, no, no, I forgot
Speaker 1: see it. Just hit me with I'm not drunk you no, no, no,
Speaker 1: hold on, brother, you got the Farrell plug. That's the
Speaker 1: real Adita plug. I need that. Shout to push it sea,
Speaker 1: who's my man? And I get some things in the mail.
Speaker 1: You have the Farrell plug. That means you got the
Speaker 1: human races with the Japanese writing on them. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you out right now. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I need no. No. Listens, this sounds like thing in
Speaker 1: your interview right now. Feedback was a feedback. Now, I
Speaker 1: need you sounds like don't love that. No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not pausing. I need you. I respect you. There's no pausing.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the problem with Puerto Rican. You
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican black, Porto Rican Italian with Puerto Rican didn't
Speaker 1: pay attention. And then then and I don't don't speak
Speaker 1: No God dames vanished forgetting to tell you. I know
Speaker 1: you got Pround on speed dial. I need you. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not pausing to hold for that Paul ship right now.
Speaker 1: I need you to go on. It's no relax. I
Speaker 1: need you. I need that. I did not I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Now you know, you know it's real. You have the plug.
Speaker 1: See this, this is this is the ship that that
Speaker 1: rappers don't understand that really got the road. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really got cheat codes. I need you, brother, listen, he
Speaker 1: told me my packs is gonna ribe Christ. Where the
Speaker 1: funk are we right now? We hazard it sounds and
Speaker 1: I need to plug. You're gonna a little You're gonna
Speaker 1: accidentally scratch like nine records because we're halfway through a
Speaker 1: bottle of the Trump Hold. Listen, I just want to
Speaker 1: get things flipped. You. We're gonna go past my hotel.
Speaker 1: You want feed you a hole? Stop? Wait, I say
Speaker 1: you're gonna drop me to the hotel? How you? Mr?
Speaker 1: Lee is busy? I got you, but Xcel I got you.
Speaker 1: You got your Trump. Whatever you want, I got you. Listen,
Speaker 1: Why can't I just say it? Let's listen? Killing me
Speaker 1: right now? I don't care about your right back to
Speaker 1: the hotel. I care about norell J can't happen. You
Speaker 1: care about It's my hero right now? The packages, packages,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, you'll nor you don't
Speaker 1: we want to talk about this because he said you
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about this. Sorry, talking about
Speaker 1: text messages will be so extra back, No, the Texas
Speaker 1: will be so extra tonight. I need you. I leave,
Speaker 1: I leave, I leave it to you. I love you.
Speaker 1: He just called you a bronx na. Holong good bronx Na.
Speaker 1: Heard bron That's all you're gonna ever heard drunk dr
Speaker 1: got drunk. Everybody, I'm gonna hit it, hit it, never exactly.
Speaker 1: Its context is really high. I'm fucked up right now.
Speaker 1: Your clock can't ball the male all sneakers who like thirties,
Speaker 1: seven eight hundred six is an amazing number. That's a
Speaker 1: great number. I agree with you to that number. You're
Speaker 1: killing the game by playing, You're fucking it'll be. I
Speaker 1: want to expect snake currency. He changed from culture because
Speaker 1: because he's smart. He's smart like everybody's ideology here. You'll
Speaker 1: wait a minute. He's good. He's good. Relax meda one.
Speaker 1: That's his act, keeping with the egg buddy. You gotta relax,
Speaker 1: but listen, taking up a shot, I'm let's go. You're
Speaker 1: just talking about what about it that I'm drunk? What
Speaker 1: about that? With all due respect, I'm not drinking. I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what y'all said. Drinking one much
Speaker 1: about from Brooklyn? You know you don't good you got
Speaker 1: the book. I mean I don't think. I don't think that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I can't go to drink with your brother. Your
Speaker 1: brother's making brother ship worked in the nineties. You want
Speaker 1: to know what's crazy. I'm from Brooklyn. I'm like like
Speaker 1: peer pressure. Don't funk with me like peers, like when
Speaker 1: you're saying, you know what funny, I'm not even lessing.
Speaker 1: I'm just pulling a clock shot and you're gonna lose. Baby,
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking. What are you guys biting each other?
Speaker 1: Do you want to bite that little birs empty glass?
Speaker 1: Bank day? Yeah? You what's really good? Vick? Good? You
Speaker 1: know that I love you, left that you don't love
Speaker 1: me no more. Everybody loves each other, everybody, Harford. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go about your glass right there, take it easy, good.
Speaker 1: You can accidentally scratch now, but I'll do expect. This
Speaker 1: is a motherfucker's who has nothing to do right now,
Speaker 1: making me. I changed my flight to fight with you.
Speaker 1: Let's go on check this out. You're my brother, h
Speaker 1: I want to break that you annory. If I don't
Speaker 1: get a podcast behind this ship, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: little yalla ruin on that listen. I know you're a
Speaker 1: little funked up, but remember this podcast was lessens. I
Speaker 1: was a part of this. We're doing checking the sober
Speaker 1: guy over here, that's right. Yeah, No, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you club. You're out clock you miss what I said,
Speaker 1: joe what about Joey thing? Shout the status back in
Speaker 1: this brave as. I ain't got nothing bad to say
Speaker 1: about Joey Brooklyn is from the Flatbush? I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it flash. I think he's from Flappers. Joey badass.
Speaker 1: He got to join with Jay Cole and he got
Speaker 1: to join with Stou. Speak from both of them. Ships
Speaker 1: is legend, shout the statics selected. I'm just is legend.
Speaker 1: Studs of producible. I don't know if he could do
Speaker 1: some or not. He produced Stouse. I know that Joey's dope.
Speaker 1: Where were you going with this? I'll just ask you.
Speaker 1: You gonna hear about cash? What waits? What you said?
Speaker 1: I'm your business partner right now and you just h questions? No, Oa, okay.
Speaker 1: Next I didn't understand it best, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't speak. Having said, I'm going to the club,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to bring somebody's jaw. I promise
Speaker 1: you you're gonna bring the last job. Promise you here
Speaker 1: and what I said, if we got you, the air
Speaker 1: condition's gonna break. I keep it on alum, with all
Speaker 1: due respect, you did not get us the air condition
Speaker 1: that they got you the air condition to move this
Speaker 1: ship over here. I'm not here. It's amazing my every way.
Speaker 1: It would be dry right now. I got our last clock.
Speaker 1: You know what I got awesome. Somebody's not gonna make
Speaker 1: it the puff party tonight. I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: all parties, all party. I'm not come I got your
Speaker 1: word part I ain't. I got to work. I don't
Speaker 1: come on. There's no words. Tell you everyone fight six
Speaker 1: Just what are we at? Where we at right now?
Speaker 1: Day to day? I ain't even get day to day.
Speaker 1: It's a man. Soon it's got there. Dana da da stories?
Speaker 1: Why why not say anything about today? My guy? How
Speaker 1: did that happen to have him? Because I was DJ
Speaker 1: and out of talent show at Washington or in high
Speaker 1: school and his record had just dropped, and he came
Speaker 1: to the school and he was going to perform for
Speaker 1: the crowd, and he asked me if I could dropped
Speaker 1: the record. And the way that I dropped the record
Speaker 1: made him say, Yo, you know that that was perfect?
Speaker 1: Do you think you could like do that for me
Speaker 1: at another at another place? Pause that a little little
Speaker 1: sex pact right there. But anyway, he asked me if
Speaker 1: I could you know DJ form at another place? And
Speaker 1: I said sure and I did, And from that point on,
Speaker 1: I was this DJ Danny Day. The name were Fame,
Speaker 1: Danna Dane met me, Danna Dane met me, be Clark Kent,
Speaker 1: what I met you? He met me being DJ Clarkkin.
Speaker 1: I was already DJ Clark Kent when he met me.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't a he put me on thing. It
Speaker 1: was a he was like, yo, can Dan, can you
Speaker 1: come along with Fame? What Fame d Day? With Fame
Speaker 1: here to entertain? By the time I leave, you remember
Speaker 1: my name Dan? Going? Question? I got, I got a
Speaker 1: man questions because I want the world to hear what
Speaker 1: I know. All you gotta relact. It's your show. I'm
Speaker 1: I got to go ship ship Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: There was no no, no, no, no, no, no, nothing
Speaker 1: on the interviewer. So there was a point of life.
Speaker 1: Talk about when you when you told the world that
Speaker 1: jay Z was the best MC ever. You told Grandmaster
Speaker 1: Cars that yeah, And if I'm not mistake, you told
Speaker 1: me you know that too. I didn't necessarily tell them
Speaker 1: both because I was trying to tell them before I did.
Speaker 1: Was I said after New Music Summonar while the m
Speaker 1: C battle was going on, is was that a Jack
Speaker 1: the rappid thing? This music summonar Jay was with me
Speaker 1: and I turned and I said, damn, by the way,
Speaker 1: this is the best m C in the world. Then
Speaker 1: we kept going with the MC battle and by that
Speaker 1: at the time of the by the time the battle
Speaker 1: was over, Grandmaster Chas and Meli melaf to the side
Speaker 1: of the state and these are my guys, like the
Speaker 1: god no Grandmaster Cats for a lot of my life
Speaker 1: and Meli mel for a lot of my origin. Ye
Speaker 1: yea A Cats was the first best MC ever. That's
Speaker 1: why I brought this up. So he says, Nigga, what
Speaker 1: the fund is you talking about? And mel was like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you see me standing there like how then are you
Speaker 1: just gonna say some crazy ship like that? And you
Speaker 1: have to understand, like these are guys that I have
Speaker 1: respect for, and I look at Liken. You guys are
Speaker 1: the forefront of the culture. Think about this. If there's
Speaker 1: no message, there's no gangster rap. A lot of things
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no no, A lot of
Speaker 1: things would have happened. But that was the record when
Speaker 1: he said what he said on the message and the
Speaker 1: fact what it might have been called. They were calling
Speaker 1: it reality. It was reality. But all these rap is
Speaker 1: reality right right right. So my thing is, if you
Speaker 1: don't hear this first reality rap record, do you ever
Speaker 1: get to CNN ever? Do you ever get to n
Speaker 1: W Way? Do you ever get to school e D No,
Speaker 1: you don't. The first reality rap record that that you
Speaker 1: can know that broke through and made it. They did
Speaker 1: white lines to right. Yeah, but that was after the
Speaker 1: message no no, but I mean it's no, no, it's
Speaker 1: not that lineage don't matter. What matters is the message
Speaker 1: was made. People heard a child, no, no, this guy
Speaker 1: sus no no, no no. The bottom line is on
Speaker 1: a record, you heard pretty lady living in a bag.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You heard may tag, you
Speaker 1: heard all kinds of crazy ship on this one record
Speaker 1: that wasn't Yeah, we're gonna go to the party, We're
Speaker 1: gonna pop bottles, we're gonna get drunk, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a party. Because every record before that was that
Speaker 1: until Melly Melon Dude Booty made the message. So gangster
Speaker 1: rap changes. I mean anything that anything that you would
Speaker 1: have said it was reality became gangster rap, which is
Speaker 1: corny because it should all be called reality rap. After
Speaker 1: after you told him Jay was the best ever, it
Speaker 1: was going to be the best ever. How long after
Speaker 1: did they sit there and tell you? Did they agree
Speaker 1: with you? Oh? Maybe about about three years later. There
Speaker 1: was a UM, There was a Zulu. There was a
Speaker 1: Zulu anniversary conference and Bronx and I was actually in
Speaker 1: Manhattan and damn, and Grandmaster Cars had a table in
Speaker 1: it where he was selling Grandma all of like like
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Cats had a table full of tapes of Feliss
Speaker 1: Phillis four, Fantastic five, Furious five, Current Cat four, semcs Um,
Speaker 1: Cold Crush Brothers. He had this this table when he
Speaker 1: was selling actual with cassette copies of old school jams
Speaker 1: that were on tapes back in the days. At this
Speaker 1: at this some at the Zulu Anniversary. And I walked
Speaker 1: into the Zulu Inific and I see cats on them, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could speak to my men,
Speaker 1: who I've known since I was a young boy, is
Speaker 1: he gonna still be like what up? And he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: let me talk to you. And I'm like shit, so
Speaker 1: we will go over to the side. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you something. Man, he was
Speaker 1: right about jay Z, and I was like, shit, so
Speaker 1: everything I was trying to tell you to tell y'all like, dude,
Speaker 1: is like really that deal? Like nobody would listen to
Speaker 1: me and understand me. Like jay Z had come out
Speaker 1: second album, We're rocking, Nobody can tell me anything and
Speaker 1: you could say what you want to say, feel how
Speaker 1: you want to feel. I knew I was right. Jay
Speaker 1: Z is killing him. And then Grandmaster Cast says, who
Speaker 1: you was right about jay Z? To me that damn
Speaker 1: it was my grammy because he's Grandmaster Casts. He's the
Speaker 1: first MC that I looked at and was like, he's
Speaker 1: the best. Even though RAT would look at Millie mellon go,
Speaker 1: he was the best. I looked the chasm was like
Speaker 1: I really like Mellie mel but I think he's the best.
Speaker 1: So the first best MC came to me and said,
Speaker 1: you know you was right about jay Z. Karris One
Speaker 1: tried to tell me I was bugging when I was
Speaker 1: talking about K When I was talking about jay Z.
Speaker 1: He did. We was in the studio, we were at
Speaker 1: I never heard that he knew he was dope. Was
Speaker 1: making a record called five Burrows and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the Dots Effects Dots Effects on it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you should, you should put jay
Speaker 1: Z on it. He was like why and I was
Speaker 1: like what, Like, what the funk are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like I said, dog, jay Z is that mega? Like
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know what you see Clark,
Speaker 1: And I was like, my Brooklyn, Yeah, it would understanding.
Speaker 1: He was making a record called five Borrows, so it
Speaker 1: would have been somebody from Brooklyn, you know, standing out
Speaker 1: on the Queen's long. You know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: choose dots. And I was looking at him like, dog,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you choosing dots because they from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: So I'm not mad period, but dog, like jay Z
Speaker 1: is an inferno, like you might want to use it.
Speaker 1: He was like why, I don't get it. And I
Speaker 1: was just like the persia he should have moved, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you what, what the
Speaker 1: funk are you listening to? That? You can't say that
Speaker 1: dude is super nice, Like he's not nice on a
Speaker 1: regular level. He's like nice on the level that you
Speaker 1: can't even come close to, Like he's like nice somewhere else,
Speaker 1: like if there's an alternate Earth jays there by himself.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like the fun nice are
Speaker 1: you talking about? So when you say that to me,
Speaker 1: I can't to understand. I'm the guy who's standing in
Speaker 1: front going no, nigga, you can't funk with hold. But
Speaker 1: then you tell me that like you what, Come on
Speaker 1: and stop it, man, you deserve a snuck on the
Speaker 1: hand for that. Let your jealousy together out the way.
Speaker 1: What's right that you like? Man, you don't know what
Speaker 1: you was talking about? Do you want to tell him
Speaker 1: what that? Tell him what that? Just tell him, you know,
Speaker 1: just tell him fuckre like my nigger, your fun business?
Speaker 1: Anything better? Then we keep continued to praise and respect
Speaker 1: and your presence has wrong us to the drink chaps,
Speaker 1: and we love you. You love everything you represent, You
Speaker 1: love everything you had a part to be a part of.
Speaker 1: And you are you doing y guys? Guys talk over here,
Speaker 1: mane you love everything that clark Ken is a part
Speaker 1: of the work. Clark Ken, he's sitting here like a
Speaker 1: red devil blood are you talking about right now in
Speaker 1: the gang world? Because I would like to say, Norri,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me mana, thanks for full for form
Speaker 1: and you know you're my nigga. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fucking sunk about right now? What gangster like? Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me? You went to the house. I
Speaker 1: don't know what those feedback Claude can. Thank you for
Speaker 1: being here. He wants a bleak chance on me. You
Speaker 1: wanted to verse very first people who sat down with
Speaker 1: me and told me relax. So you had to make
Speaker 1: about six hunds your ball. Y'all need to do a
Speaker 1: record together. Now you got our lax. Let's not happen like,
Speaker 1: let's make that we're doing it already. The alright then
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking prophet. You gotta relax, which I don't
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm no ac No, I'm just rusted me.
Speaker 1: I'm not the manager. But thank you so much, thank
Speaker 1: you for having brokr man. I know this is a
Speaker 1: pleasing thank you for having not one year anniversary. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you just I just want
Speaker 1: to say thank you for having me here. And it's
Speaker 1: an honor to be your one year anniversary guest. Let's
Speaker 1: take it. Let's take a shout to that little up y'all,
Speaker 1: you know, unless you know you're from the bron you
Speaker 1: gotta a fucking mind, you know what. I just go no, no,
Speaker 1: I officially ain't ship for really really take a giant
Speaker 1: steeles y'all taking not taking a shot, y'all. You gotta relax.
Speaker 1: You gotta walking away from Taures. We gotta take pictures.
Speaker 1: Then I gotta take pictures. We're gonna take pictures that
Speaker 1: you want. I'm not taking. Make them go. Let that go,
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