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Speaker 3: That is correct. So we are often running I all.

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Speaker 4: Black, y'all. By the way, I mean, whether Jonas is

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty pale, Like I'm pretty.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you are pretty. You are pretty Dracula pale.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are that that dog hunts. Now you may

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Speaker 3: mention you made mention of this. Check of text. You

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Speaker 3: made mention of this. The uh Micah Parsons era in

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Speaker 3: Green Bay. It has been pretty quiet, but it's been

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Speaker 3: He's had a really good year and it's like gotten,

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Speaker 3: not gotten a lot of buzz. I think people maybe

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Speaker 3: early on in seasons, he gets off to a slow start.

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Speaker 3: But here we are again. He's got another dozen sax season.

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Speaker 3: There's six games left to go in the season, and

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Speaker 3: He's looked good man.

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Speaker 4: He's a difference maker for them, but he would be

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Speaker 4: a difference maker for everyone. I know that. Again, the

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Speaker 4: conversations have continued. Are the Dallas Cowboys a better team?

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Speaker 4: That's been a debate without Michael Parsons? Are the Green

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Speaker 4: I don't think that one has to be untrue for

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Speaker 4: does look as though Brian Schottenheimer is doing an amazing

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Speaker 4: look at what Michael Parsons added to that defense, it's

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Speaker 4: He's a generational talent. He really is. It's not just

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Speaker 4: You know, it seems like it worked out for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it. Just there's been no noise like there's

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Speaker 3: one of the things that Micah Parsons made mention of

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Speaker 3: I'm blanking on his name, but he told Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 3: of It's not Dallas. It's not this big extravagant sort

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Speaker 4: All I'll say is Micah Parsons is such a competitor.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter where he's at. He could play for

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Speaker 4: still going to bawl the same exact way because that's

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Speaker 4: just how he's wired. He's going and all it was

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Speaker 4: he didn't participate in in training camp. So's his body's

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Speaker 4: That's what he does. So when you look at where

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Speaker 4: just think it's irresponsible to say they're better without Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 4: Though it's not better without Michael Parsons with what they've done,

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Speaker 3: So Dallas making the moves that they made post Michael

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Speaker 3: That's what it felt like. It felt like Jerry Jones realized, Wow,

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Speaker 3: Like that's the And anybody who thinks that that was

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Speaker 3: we can try and you know, manipulate the numbers all

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Speaker 3: we want, facts or facts. Micah Parsons has proven he's

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Speaker 3: done it every single year. He's doing to get an

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Speaker 3: because things got personal when it comes to the negotiations

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Speaker 3: But to your point, you wouldn't have had to do

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Speaker 3: Why would you? And then why would you go on

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Speaker 3: Haley expos him Like there's a lot of stuff there, Jerry.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what are we talking about here? So I

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Speaker 3: just I wonder if Micah Parsons, upon further review, even

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Speaker 4: I think it's a tremendous point because State College is

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Speaker 4: So it's a loaded market and people have a lot

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you it's the wildest thing. If you

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Speaker 4: thing is when you pull up to where they're playing,

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Speaker 3: Like Rashid Walker was the guy, the Penn State player

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Speaker 3: who told Michael Parsons what you're saying that it feels

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Speaker 4: And I've been there. I played there twice, and I

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Speaker 4: just it to be honest with you, maybe stay college

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big nervous. It's a big nervous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Thanks for getting my nerves Okay, nervous?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which I would think, like actually would take longer

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Speaker 4: I think you're reaching, Ab. I think you're reaching because

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Speaker 5: So that's what this out logistically. I'm a travel connoissewer.

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Speaker 5: it's like, okay, like maybe it's not the most noticeable

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Speaker 5: thing in the world, but you can throw your accuracy

434
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Speaker 5: off a little bit, you know, or it can make

435
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Speaker 5: you It can it can it can cause a little

436
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Speaker 5: bit of like a tweak and the way you play

437
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Speaker 5: that needs to be fixed when he gets to the offseason.

438
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Speaker 5: So you know, Lamar is still a great, great player,

439
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Speaker 5: but we're so used to him being you know, in

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Speaker 5: that group of four quarterbacks with him and Burrow and

441
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Speaker 5: Mahomes and Allen and it's just like again, like not

442
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Speaker 5: like he's falling off the face of the earth. But

443
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Speaker 5: they don't look as dangerous offensively as they have, and

444
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Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see if they can get that together.

445
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Speaker 5: Because remember, as you know, up and down as things

446
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Speaker 5: have been, they did win five in a row going

447
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Speaker 5: into last night's game, and the rest of their schedule

448
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Speaker 5: is pretty interesting. They'll play the Steelers twice, they got

449
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Speaker 5: to play the Bengals again in two weeks, and so

450
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Speaker 5: you know, as strange as it sounds, for two is

451
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Speaker 5: coming in last night, three and eight, like the door

452
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Speaker 5: is still open for the Bengals to win the AFC North.

453
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Speaker 5: They need some help for sure, but like there's a

454
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Speaker 5: way for it to happen if they if they sweep

455
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Speaker 5: the Ravens, the Ravens are up to seven losses then,

456
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Speaker 5: and so the Ravens would only need to lose one

457
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Speaker 5: more game, and the Ravens play the Steelers twice. I

458
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Speaker 5: believe they got the Lions in there too, where it'd

459
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Speaker 5: be like you could easily see them losing one more game,

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Speaker 5: and if the steel level off like now all of

461
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Speaker 5: a sudden, if the Bengals can run the table and

462
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Speaker 5: that's a lot to ask, but at the Bengals run

463
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Speaker 5: the table now all of a sudden, they can seek

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely correct. In fact, I feel like

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Speaker 4: that's what I explained to Jonas early on in the show,

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Speaker 4: by the way, So there you go. I like your

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Speaker 4: reasoning right there. Ab Let me ask you about another

469
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Speaker 4: team that finds themselves in maybe a compromising position right

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Speaker 4: now based off of what Mike Vrabel has been able

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Speaker 4: to do in New England. Are the Buffalo Bills Are

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Speaker 4: they plateauing? Are they hitting a ceiling of sorts in

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Speaker 4: terms of what we should expect and anticipate from them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some interesting questions with them, LeVar, like I

475
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Speaker 5: so like, I mean, one is like they do need

476
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Speaker 5: to get healthier, right so they won't get Oliver back

477
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Speaker 5: until the playoffs, but that's obviously a huge piece for

478
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Speaker 5: them to lose, and they're relying on some young guys

479
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Speaker 5: like Walker and Sanders to pick up the slack for

480
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Speaker 5: them on the interior of the d line, which is

481
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Speaker 5: a big deal, right Like, and then not having Dalton

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Speaker 5: Kincaid that was that was an issue. I mean, the

483
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Speaker 5: collapse of Keon Coleman like that hurt as well, which

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Speaker 5: part of the reason why they bring in Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think the overarching question now become one at such

486
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Speaker 5: a high level with that core that they built around

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen. You know five, six, seven years ago when

488
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Speaker 5: you had guys like Hide and Poyer and and Stefan

489
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Speaker 5: Diggs and and you know that that group was able

490
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Speaker 5: to win at a high level. And now what you've

491
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Speaker 5: done is you've effectively replaced that group with some homegrown talent.

492
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Speaker 5: And so you paid Russeau, you paid Khalil Shakir, you

493
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Speaker 5: paid James Cook, you paid Terrell Bernard, you pay Christian Benford. So,

494
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Speaker 5: like a lot of people said, it's a window closing,

495
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's it. Like I think where it

496
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Speaker 5: is is this group that you've paid isn't good enough,

497
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like, and it was money

498
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Speaker 5: well spent, and I think we know how good the

499
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Speaker 5: quarterback is. But there's a lot more to it than

500
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Speaker 5: just the quarterback here, and so I think seeing that

501
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Speaker 5: part of it play out is going to be the

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Speaker 5: interesting thing because they really need those guys that they paid,

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Speaker 5: those guys that they've invested in to be part of

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Speaker 5: the new cores that replaced the first corps that Josh

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Speaker 5: One with to step up and be who you know,

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Speaker 5: like they thought those guys were going to be able

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Speaker 5: to be when they paid them.

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Speaker 3: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

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Speaker 3: NFL reporter at the MMQB dot com. You can get

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Speaker 3: them on x at Albert Breer. We kind of made

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Speaker 3: mention of this a little bit last hour because you

512
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Speaker 3: know we're watching, you know, you're going to see the

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Speaker 3: Bears play later on NFC North. Things are headed in

514
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Speaker 3: the right direction. It seems like you see the Packers

515
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Speaker 3: and the Lions teams that are still good teams, and

516
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Speaker 3: then you got the Vikings and how patient are they

517
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Speaker 3: going to be with JJ McCarthy knowing they let Sam

518
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Speaker 3: Darnold walk, they let Daniel Jones walk, and this is

519
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Speaker 3: the result.

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Speaker 5: So, like I I think there are two layers to this.

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Speaker 5: There's this year and then there's the future. Right so

522
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Speaker 5: for this year, like Max Brosmer did enough, you know

523
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Speaker 5: in the summer where they would and I talked to

524
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Speaker 5: people that who said this, like they would really like

525
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Speaker 5: to see what he looks like in a regular season game.

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Speaker 5: And they had no idea if that opportunity was going

527
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Speaker 5: to present itself, but he had done enough where it

528
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Speaker 5: was like, you know, we'd really like to see what

529
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Speaker 5: this kid could do at some point, right, And so

530
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Speaker 5: there's that piece of it, and that could happen. It

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Speaker 5: looks like it's going to happen organically this week with

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Speaker 5: with McCarthy's concussion, right, so you know what, if JJ's

533
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Speaker 5: out this week, then they get a look at Max Brosmer,

534
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Speaker 5: and then you know, the question becomes like, is Brozmer

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Speaker 5: a better option if he plays really well for the

536
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Speaker 5: rest of the year, you know, And then there's a

537
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Speaker 5: second level to it, which is what does this mean

538
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Speaker 5: for the future. Well, you know, I think a big

539
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Speaker 5: piece of the rest of this year for them was like,

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Speaker 5: we need answers on JJ McCarthy now, and we need

541
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Speaker 5: to figure out who he is now so we can

542
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Speaker 5: start to plan for twenty twenty six and going forward.

543
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Speaker 5: And you know, really, for them what that's about. It's

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Speaker 5: not like they want to continue to develop JJ. There's

545
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Speaker 5: a lot of stuff they love about JJ, but this

546
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Speaker 5: isn't a rebuilding team. And I've said this to you

547
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Speaker 5: guys since March and April right when they did try

548
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Speaker 5: to bring DJ back and they did try to bring

549
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Speaker 5: Sam back. Like this is a team that's got a

550
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Speaker 5: lot of proud veteran players that are the primes of

551
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Speaker 5: their career, right Like, so like if I'm justin Jefferson

552
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Speaker 5: or Jordan Addison or Christian Darisaw or Jonathan Gernard or

553
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Speaker 5: Andrew Van Ginkel, like like I don't want to hear that, Like,

554
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Speaker 5: you know, like we're going to spend another year figuring

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Speaker 5: this out. Like you got to have answers on the

556
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Speaker 5: roster for those guys, right, Like, this isn't a team

557
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Speaker 5: that could just throw seasons overboard in the name of

558
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Speaker 5: quarterback development. So like I think JJ has to earn

559
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Speaker 5: his spot for twenty six and then he plays great

560
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Speaker 5: the rest of the year, they go in the playoffs

561
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Speaker 5: and make some noise, then he's a quarterback. If it

562
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Speaker 5: looks like it's looked, I fully expect that they're going

563
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Speaker 5: to bring in competition for him next year, you know.

564
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Speaker 5: So like there's a lot on the line, I think,

565
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Speaker 5: and again, like it's not necessarily JJ's fault, but like

566
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Speaker 5: this is a double edged sword of going to a

567
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: place like this when he was drafted. Everybody's like, well,

568
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Speaker 5: that's a great spot to go, and it was you

569
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Speaker 5: know what I mean, absolutely is a great spot to

570
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Speaker 5: go with Kevin O'Connell and the receivers they have in

571
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Speaker 5: the line, they have all that different stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: The other edge to that sword, though, is that like

574
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Speaker 5: a place like that isn't going to be as app

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Speaker 5: to wait for you. You know, It's kind of like

576
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Speaker 5: San Francisco back a few years ago with Trey Lance.

577
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Speaker 5: It was like that team could not wait for Trey

578
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Speaker 5: Lance to develop. That team needed an answer and in

579
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Speaker 5: the president, and they got that answer with Rock Party

580
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Speaker 5: and they move forward. So there's some similarities between this

581
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Speaker 5: situation and where the Niners were a few years ago

582
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Speaker 5: with Trey Lance.

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Speaker 4: How are how are the internals looking at what's going

584
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Speaker 4: on in Las Vegas? Ab I mean that to me?

585
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Speaker 4: You know, everybody was making a hu ha hooray about

586
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady and his ability to get information and make

587
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Speaker 4: this this Vegas team super Bowl competitor. They bring in

588
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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, My goodness, everything they got a hold of

589
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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll's old quarterback. He rejuvenated Geno Smith's career where

590
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Speaker 4: are red right now, and how we're viewing the Las

591
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Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Well, that information, I guess hasn't helped them with sons,

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Speaker 5: right right, kid?

594
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Speaker 4: All right?

595
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think there's some push and pull here, LeVar.

596
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, you got a coaching staff that was older,

597
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Speaker 5: that had a bunch of guys that were kind of

598
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Speaker 5: matched together, right so, you know, like Pete Carroll had

599
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Speaker 5: not worked before with Chip Kelly. Pete Carroll had not

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Speaker 5: worked before the d C. Patrick Graham either, you know.

601
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Speaker 5: And you know, I think a lot of this was

602
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Speaker 5: on the coaching side put together to like how competitive

603
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Speaker 5: can we become right now? And you know, I think

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Speaker 5: for the front office there's like a little bit of

605
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Speaker 5: a different look at this where this was never going

606
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Speaker 5: to be a one off season rebuild. It was always

607
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Speaker 5: going to take longer than that. You know, like the

608
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Speaker 5: roster they inherited, need to work in just about every

609
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Speaker 5: single way, you know, and so like I think that's

610
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Speaker 5: been where there's been some level of tension. I mean,

611
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Speaker 5: even going back to like the trade deadline, you know,

612
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Speaker 5: where where they had players that they could have flipped,

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Speaker 5: you know for picks going forward, and part of not

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Speaker 5: doing that was having a coaching staff that wanted to

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Speaker 5: compete in the here and now, and so now you're

616
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Speaker 5: sort of left in this in between. You fired your

617
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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and it's like, okay, like, well what's next?

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Speaker 5: And I honestly look at it like this is still

619
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Speaker 5: a multi off season rebuild. It is still going to

620
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Speaker 5: take you know, a couple of years to get this

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Speaker 5: thing where they where they want to bring it, where

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Speaker 5: it can be a real contender for a championship. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I think because of that, there are gonna

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Speaker 5: be some big picture questions that are going to be

625
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Speaker 5: asked about all kinds of areas of that operation coming

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Speaker 5: out of the twenty twenty five season. And I expect

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Speaker 5: that Tom Brady's going to be a big part of that,

628
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: of course, you know, as he has been. But you know,

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Speaker 5: thus far, I mean it just I guess what you're

630
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Speaker 5: looking for is like just the little pieces of progress,

631
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Speaker 5: right like that gives you something to hang your hat

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Speaker 5: on going into next year. And we haven't gotten a

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Speaker 5: lot of those yet.

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Speaker 3: Albert, is there any coach that is maybe potentially coaching

635
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Speaker 3: for his job down the stretch here in the last

636
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Speaker 3: handful of games that might be a surprise to some people,

637
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Speaker 3: maybe the seat than some know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all know, like Mike mc

639
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Speaker 5: daniel is going to be in that position, right like

640
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Speaker 5: just because we don't know who the general manager is

641
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: going to be, you know, going forward obviously, like you

642
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: already have a couple of openings, you know, the Giants

643
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: and the Titans eating coaches. I'm just trying to think of, like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the one that like people keep

645
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Speaker 5: talking about and I think he's a fantastic coach, but

646
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Speaker 5: like you know, Todd Bowles in Tampa, like if they

647
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Speaker 5: were to really collapse down the stretch, Like I wonder

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Speaker 5: a little bit in that in that one, you know,

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Speaker 5: because I do think like when you've talked about it

650
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: for as many years and it's come up for as

651
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 5: many years as it come up in as many years

652
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 5: as it has, is that one where it's like all right,

653
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: like you know, you know, we're building behind Baker Mayfield

654
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: now and this is a natural spot to make a change,

655
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: you know. I think the one that everybody's gonna bring up,

656
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 5: the two that everybody are going to bring up, like

657
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: if the seasons go the wrong way, are going to

658
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 5: be Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Now, I don't think those teams

659
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 5: would ever fire those guys, but like, there's gonna be

660
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 5: that well, you know, next year would be Tomlin's twentieth

661
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: year in Pittsburgh. The next year it would be hardbots

662
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 5: nineteenth year in Baltimore. And so, you know, I think

663
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: if if those teams disappoint down the stretch, you know,

664
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Speaker 5: those conversations are certainly going to happen out in the public,

665
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: you know, Privately, I think it would be more about

666
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: like is this time you know what I mean, rather

667
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: than being any sort of firing. So you know, we'll

668
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: see what happens with those. And I'm just trying to think.

669
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Speaker 5: I know there's one that I'm forgetting right now that

670
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna kick myself for forgetting to bring up with

671
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 5: you guys.

672
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: McDermott. Did you mention McDermott. I know we talked about

673
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: the earlier.

674
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Speaker 5: I don't get I don't get any sense like that

675
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: internally they're having those discussions. However, you know, I think

676
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 5: the the I may have I've said this a few

677
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 5: different times. I may have said it to you guys before.

678
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 5: I can't remember, but I I like like I sort

679
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: of look at like look at a little bit like

680
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 5: Tony Dungee in Tampa. If you remember back in the day,

681
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: Tony Dungee did such an incredible job of of tea

682
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 5: and you guys are and you guys remember how terrible

683
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 5: they were before he got there.

684
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 4: They were.

685
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 5: They were not just the laughing stock of the NFL.

686
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: They were like one of the laughing stocks in all

687
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 5: his sports. And Tony Duneye got there and he completely

688
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 5: changed that place and built, you know, a historic defense

689
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 5: with you know, John Lynch and Derek Brooks and Warren

690
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: Sapp and Ronde de Harper. Yeah, and that and that

691
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 5: and and and he did such an awesome job. But

692
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: they'd been knocking on the door for so long, and

693
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: because they had that defense, the urgency was amped up.

694
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: And then if you remember, at the end of the

695
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: twenty one at the end of the one season, they

696
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 5: started flirting with Bill Parcells and almost got him and

697
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: then wound up trading for John Gruden. And you do

698
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: wonder if like, for the same reason there was urgency

699
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 5: in Tampa back then, because it was like, we're only

700
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: going to have this defense for so long. If like

701
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 5: eventually in Buffalo gets the point with Josh Allen now

702
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: he's turning thirty in May where it's like, all right, like,

703
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: you know, we really need to find a way to

704
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: maximize what we have here to chase a championship. So

705
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 5: that would be the sort of comparison. But I don't think, like,

706
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: not to my knowledge anyway, any of those conversations have

707
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 5: happened yet internally.

708
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: All right, ab moment of truth, moment of true there

709
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: and now is the time has arrived. Albert Breer, senior

710
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: NFL reporter at the MMQB and the Pride of Ohio State.

711
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: Do you feel like at the end of Saturday's game

712
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: in an arbor that the Ohio State Buck guys will

713
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: have won that game by more than nine and a

714
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: half points.

715
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: It's down nine and a half now, hockey down.

716
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: Oh, wasn't it twelve? I thought it was twelve, twelve.

717
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 4: And a half.

718
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: It was going to have at one point then I think,

719
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 5: I don't know. I the last I heard it was

720
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 5: ten and a half. So yeah, it's under ten now, yikes.

721
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: I think they will. You know, I picked them a

722
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 5: cover last week and they did right without Carnell and

723
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: without JJ.

724
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe.

725
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, So, like what the way I

726
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: feel about the game right now is like a lot

727
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: of people are going to be focused on our receivers

728
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 5: and whether they play or not. I really like our

729
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 5: defense with all the first round picks on it, and

730
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: that coordinator going up against the young quarterback that I

731
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 5: think could wind up being the key to the whole thing.

732
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: And so like I I, you know, like I just

733
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: I don't know how Michigan's going to score on on

734
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 5: Ohio obnestly hasn't really been scored on all year, you know,

735
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 5: So like if Michigan the team to break through that,

736
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 5: I don't think so. And again like this is I'm saying,

737
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: I think I'm not like pounding my chest here because

738
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: I've learned my lesson doing that. I do respect the

739
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: rivalry more than some people on the other side do.

740
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: Wow, there you go.

741
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: But but but but I would say, like that to

742
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: me is the key is like if this Patricia defense

743
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 5: is keeping them to ten or thirteen or fourteen or

744
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 5: seventeen points, like I don't know how you keep the

745
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: Ohio State offense under one.

746
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: And also you know, Matt Patrich has probably got a

747
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: red ass going back to Michigan. He probably he's got

748
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: a point to prove.

749
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well there might be some things planned. I

750
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: mean this will be interesting too. Yeah. I think that

751
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: that group, that that Ohio State group, I will say this,

752
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: that Ohio State defensive group loves Matt and I think

753
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: they understand where this game is being played and what

754
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 5: it might mean to Matt to be able to pull

755
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: that off. And so yeah, I think there's that element

756
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 5: of it too. I I don't know, I was so

757
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: confident last year, and there was like because before that,

758
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: like the three years before that, like Michigan had really

759
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: good teams. I don't think they were the better team

760
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: in every one of those three years, but like they

761
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 5: had you know, however, it may have happened, got themselves

762
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: up to our level for a teen fraiary period of

763
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: time and this one. But last year was not last

764
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 5: year was last year. Last year I would say, changed

765
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 5: Ryan Day in a way that I think is going

766
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 5: to show up on SAT.

767
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Speaker 3: Nice.

768
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that part of the place. What do you guys.

769
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Speaker 3: Think I would I would lean in your direction. I

770
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: just wanted to come down to the wire though, Like

771
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to come down to the wire if I

772
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: had to bet on State. But I don't have a

773
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't have a I don't have an interest either way.

774
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 3: I just want to see entertaining finish.

775
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: I mean, look last week last year, I was in

776
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 5: that parking lot. It was like five degrees. I flew

777
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: in the morning of I was like shot out of

778
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 5: a cannon, like you know, seven eight years deep by

779
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: like ten thirty eight ms coming off the plane. And

780
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 5: I remember saying to my buddy Killan, I was we

781
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: were in the parking lot and I was like, I

782
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: was like, I like everybody by by tick as these

783
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: games wanting to see a classic. I'm like, f Dad,

784
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to see a want this. I want

785
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 5: this to be the worst blowout they've ever seen. I

786
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: want the stadium to be a party after the game.

787
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 5: And again, like I've learned some lessons, I don't care

788
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: if the wins by one or fifty. Just get it done.

789
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: Well, AB It's gonna be fun, and we appreciate you

790
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: joining us. As always, we're up against it. But the

791
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: great Albert Breer here with us on the Dan Patrick Show.

792
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: Let's do it again next week. I think there he

793
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: is it is the Dan Patrick Show here Fox Sports Radio,

794
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington, Jonas knocks. Coming up next here on fs

795
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: so got in trouble? It's a Dan Patrick Show here

796
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas knocks and for

797
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: Dan and the guys. So, so you think you think

798
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: Ohio State's in trouble? Huh? Based on Albert Breer's nerves going,

799
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: I can tell.

800
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: You what's trying to explain it? Wait so much, Matt, Yeah,

801
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: I love it explaining it way way too much.

802
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where when you don't have

803
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: a rooting interest, it's amazing.

804
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: It feels so good.

805
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: It's oh, I mean it's it's great because you could

806
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 3: just sit back and watch it in total comfort, knowing

807
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: I don't care what happens. I just want to see chaos.

808
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: That's all I want to hear what happened. I just

809
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: I want to see k I want it because you know,

810
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: if it gets down to the wire, the nerves with

811
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: Ohio State are going to start to kick in because

812
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, all the whispers, all the conversations,

813
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: all like, if it gets down to the wire and

814
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: they're trailing by a couple of points or if it's tied,

815
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: all of that, I would think sides with Michigan, especially.

816
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: Being at home, especially being at home, and and and again,

817
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 4: the belief system of each of these teams. They each

818
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: believe they're supposed to beat one another. It's a pretty

819
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: it sounds simple, but it's a pretty profound deal. They

820
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: believe they should beat everybody, and in these games, in

821
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: these games in particular, that we should beat everybody. Deal. Well,

822
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: they both believe they can win, So we'll see what happens.

823
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: Be cold as balls too. They both used to cold though,

824
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens.

825
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be fun. You know, it's gonna be fun.

826
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: What else?

827
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: The next hour, we gotta we got another hour of

828
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: play with.

829
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go what up sticks, Let's go black

830
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: and track. Baby, we don't play around. We just knock

831
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: it down. Yeah,