1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't. Let's just keep a real straight shot 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: with no Jason. I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. Those who really believe in the 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: American process, all of us straight shot, no Chason. What's 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: your girl, Tesselam figure Row on the Black Effect podcasting 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: that word that one? What's happening to straight shootes? This 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: is your girl, Tesla figure Bro. Today I have my girl, 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Ebony Kay william She is an attorney Arthur, host of 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Holding Court right here on the Black Bag podcast network, 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: host of Revoked Black News, and the newest cast members 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of New York. And she is my girlfriend, 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: my sister, beautiful, beautiful Ebony Kay Williams. Thanks for joining 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: me with your busy schedule. I feel honored, of course, 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: queen to you don't always make time for a queen 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: like you, and happy to be on since my first 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: time on straight Yes, yes, yes it is, Yes can 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: us Yes, ma'am. Yeah, I'm glad to have you. I 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: know where pressed for time because you are a busy, 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: busy woman, So I want to get straight to it. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've never watched the reality show ever in history. 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I've never watched the reality show. I tried to watch 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: one at one particular time, and it just never You know, 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: we have to stay constantly in the news, watching the 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: news twenty four hours a day. But when you join 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Real Housewives in New York, obviously I wanted to support 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: you first and foremost, but I wanted to make sure 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: that I understood why you were doing what you were doing, 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: because honestly, I didn't see you that way, you know, like, 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: how does she fit into that mode? And now that 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching, I get it. I get why you accept 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: this opportunity. It makes total sense to me. I understand, 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you, just flat out before 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I even get into that, how are you doing ebony? 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Because this is a huge emotional toll um and a 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of folks that don't work in the space that 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: we do maybe just kind of see these reality shows 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: is what they call it trash TV or you know, entertainment. 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: But to you, what you're bringing to that space is 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: what you do all of the time, which is black 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: excellence and understanding the nuances and the importance and how 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: every word matters because of you know, your background, so 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: too many you know, it may just be entertainment. But 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: to you, it is obviously a very uh a big lift, 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: an emotional lift, And so you took off social media 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago for that reason. Yeah, because 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate the inquiry, right, because it is all of 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: what you said. It is my honor and my privilege 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: to be able, right, I get to do this, uh, 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: to represent a level of black excellence on this particular 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: platform for the first time, by the way, in the 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: franchise history of thirteen years, which is unconscionable, but that's 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: where we are. So I took the hiatus because I 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: am a human being, you know, um, and you know, 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: we all know about those strong black women uh narratives, 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: and we are strong, and we're human and we're complicated 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and we are vulnerable. So for me, it was a 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: requirement to pull away from some of the just more 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: visceral scrutiny. And I'm not new to this, right, Tesla. 59 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both have shared space in 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: in in the deepest of arena, particularly you know, during 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: appearances and time at Fox News, so I know what 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: it is to get those those horrific trolls. But frankly, 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: after my time at Fox. I hadn't really been in 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: those spaces since because I had more or less been 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: with my people, you know, um, during my work at 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Revolt and other spaces that have been predominantly black and 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: of color. So that was just a necessary thing to me. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, people are gonna say what they're gonna say. 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: That's not my business. But I don't have to avail 70 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: myself to abuse, right, And I think that's important for 71 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: people to know. So I took a step back. How 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: am I feeling today? Much much better? Um, there are 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: still some caring controls out there, please believe it. But 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm I think two things to be candid to us, 75 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm the muscle memory right really of 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: of what you know I was used to during those 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: cable news days has come back, you know. So I'm 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a little better equipped now for the teflon bounce off 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of effect that I used to employ very well, 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm kind of getting my swag back 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: with that. And the other thing is I'm being so 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: beautifully affirmed by people that appreciate appreciate this representation. And yes, 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: a vast majority of that appreciation it looks like us 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: and a lot of it doesn't. A lot of it 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: are people that do not look like us that also 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: are are are very keenly aware that it is time 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: for something different, something fuller, that represents This is New 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: York City, for God's sakes, you know how you're gonna 89 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: have a show that exclusively white and what is said 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to be the most diverse city in the world we 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: know of, New York is both black and Latina. It's unacceptable. 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: So I'm getting really positive love and affirmation that keeps 93 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: me full. Guess on the work, Well, for those who 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: who are not watching, I just kind of want to 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: go over that on why you did have to take 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the hiatus. You had a very challenging episode I watched 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: every week. By the way, I would talk about your 98 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: cast members, but I know you'll like to bring up 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: podcasts on the show and who said what I don't 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: want Yeah, because I got plenty to say about a 101 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: couple of folks on the cast that you that you're 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: dealing with. But you took off because there was a 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: very heated exchange between you and lou Um. Did it 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: start with did you take off right when it was 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: between you and lou about making the comment about you 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: being an angry black woman. And it was over two weeks, 107 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: a two week period, right, because over that two weeks, 108 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: there was a few things we needed to deal with. 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: We needed to deal with the angry black woman comment, 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: We needed to deal with my using the phrase white fragility, 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: and we needed to deal with the microaggression of when 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Heather called me articulate. So there was a few different um, 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: and there was probably some other microaggressions thrown in there 114 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: that I get, but I did because I knew that 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: the reaction was going to be so severe, um. And 116 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: I say severe, Tez, because there were both people that 117 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: were extremely finally happy to see because you know, Roney 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of these uh you know, all white, 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: predominantly white franchises of the platform, they they have displayed 120 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: what what we call casual racism for years, you know, um, 121 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and I mean these are not secrets. Their episode with 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: one of the Roney cast members, white woman on the 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Upper East Side, walks into a nice restaurant in Manhattan, 124 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: sees a black man gives a man her coat. Man 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: don't work here, you know. So it's stuff like that. Uh, 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of controversy around LouAnn 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: Uh last season or two seasons ago, rather showing up 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: to a Halloween party dressed as Diana Ross. It looked 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: like black face to me, uh and many others. So 130 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: that that history is there. So I knew that once 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: I started really calling a thing a thing by addressing 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: the fact that when you call a black woman angry, 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: when this other white woman just cussed y'all out call 134 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: y'all be constantly cussing them out, by the way, right 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: right on a daily basis, and they're called angry. They're 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: never asked to leave your home. There's a discrepancy here, 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and I have to That's the work we do, Tesla. 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, this is what we do. That's why this 139 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: show is so dear to my heart. Straight shot, no chaser. 140 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: I also call the thing a thing, ma'am. That is 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: a stereotypical trope that you are leveling at me, and 142 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: I will I will always call that out. And if 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: that's messing up some people's good time. To the folks 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: that feel like they only want to watch this show 145 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: for ships and giggles and laughs and entertainment, I'm not 146 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: going to let white supremacy prevail for the sake of 147 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: your entertainment value. I will not do it. That's I heard. 148 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: That's just thank you for being just a support to me. 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: It is so few of us. I mean, there are times, 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you feel the same, that I feel 151 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: like alone, you know, like truly, even though I know 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I have folks like your self that are in this space, 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: whether it's you to make a band, whoever. But I 154 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: feel it is such a small group of us, um 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: a handful that really is okay calling a thing a thing, 156 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: And we're okay, we're calling a thing a thing when 157 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: we're in front of white folks, you know, oh yeah, 158 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: calling tell them girls, says. But then we start calling 159 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: a thing a thing in front of black folks, then 160 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: that becomes even a bigger problem. So we get it 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: from every angle, and you and I talked about that 162 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: the other night, and I'm I'm so grateful for you. 163 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: We get it from every angle. You get it from 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: black folks, the people you're fighting for. You get it 165 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: to the people that you're fighting white folks. I mean, 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: every single angle on what it's like to show up 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: in the room and not intentionally make people uncomfortable, but 168 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: because the the confidence and and calling a thing a thing, 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: it just it. It bothers people, evaning it really really does. 170 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: And that's been your whole experience, um, with your whole career, 171 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: right it has. If somebody really smart, A good brother 172 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: in my name Eugene Scott. He's at the Washington Post, 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: brilliant journalists. I went to school with. Eugene, went to 174 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: You and See together a million years ago. Eugene made 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: a good comment because what you just said I want 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: to just sit with, which is it's one thing to have, 177 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, white supremacist uh, and people that do the 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: work up upholding white supremacy, which sometimes quite is kept 179 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: not all white people. They ain't the only one holding 180 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: it up. Okay, Um, it's one thing to have those 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: people be combative and and visceral. It's something else for 182 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: me at least. Test it hits different and and really 183 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: more painful, much more painful when it is your own people. 184 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: And one of the comments that I did not anticipate 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: with this work in this space on this platform were 186 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: people of color and really my own black people, test 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: talking about how uncomfortable I'm making them by calling a 188 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: thing a thing on this platform. And and Eugene said, 189 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: to me, he said, what I mean, you have to 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: understand when you do what you do, which is confront 191 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: the supremacy on its face, and you don't let it slide, 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: you are holding up a mirror to some of us that, 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: in our everyday lives turn the other way and let 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: it slide for the sake of status quo maintenance, for 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: the sake of white comfortability, for the sake of keeping 196 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: the right right, not disturbing the peace. And so when 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: when they have to look at you the opposite of 198 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: what they do every day in their daily lives, it 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: ruffles their spirit. It's something more than they can handle. 200 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: And so that was a good a good take because 201 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: it really it really lets me not take it personal. 202 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: This is not a visceral reaction to me. I am 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,239 Speaker 1: not making you uncomfortable. Actually, you are seeing a reflection 204 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: of what you don't do. That's what's making you uncomfortable. 205 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: M m m m. Everybody needs to do it right, Test, 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: I think, if we're being honest now we have these conversations, 207 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: everybody ain't built like U, Tests, And I know everyone's 208 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: not built like me Dad, for sure. Everybody's not built 209 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: like Jamica. And so this is not a mandate or 210 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: an effort to shame those this. Do let the thing slide, 211 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: or do maintain the status quo for whatever reasons you 212 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: need to, but don't shame us. That's right, from moving 213 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: the way we need to spiritually move. That's right. That's 214 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: right because there's something for everybody to do. I believe 215 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: that if there's something for everybody to do. But I 216 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: just find it so interesting, you know, the four or 217 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: five people that are saying something. You know, I'm just 218 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: give an example of four or five people in the 219 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: room that they're saying something. You're so hell bent on 220 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: making me shut up, you know, But even though you 221 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: got a thousand people with you, what is it about 222 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: me that you just feel you must shut down? And 223 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: you're right, evany, it holds a mirror up to what 224 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: people are not doing. And truth be told, this is 225 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: not easy. This, This is this work of having to 226 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: constantly have an urge. I was watching an interview but 227 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: you did earlier and you said, since Kenny Garden, Kindygarden, 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: you said, I have the uh, the report cards. You 229 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: always say that same thing, because every single report card 230 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: says great student talks too much, great student can't stop talking. 231 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean literally every single year. And let me guess, 232 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: they don't matter who they sit you next to because 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: they used to move my ask too, I'm gonna talk 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: to her too. I don't care. So when you're called, 235 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: when you have it in your spirit, I'm telling you 236 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: everything I have. You know, we talked about some traumas 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: you know that you have had and that I've had, 238 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: and you really struggle with am I? Am I walking 239 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: in and in order what God wants me to do? 240 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: Am I making sure? Because that's the only thing because 241 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: if I listen to other folks around me, I would 242 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: never say anything. So many times they have to take 243 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: a back seat. I have to let self slide and 244 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: have to level it and and have to wonder about 245 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: the consequences what I call the consequences of consciousness that 246 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: comes with it. So when you're doing that show and 247 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: you're being so true to yourself and you're having to ask, well, 248 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you've had yourself. Am I being 249 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: too much? Am I doing you? There's a constant struggle 250 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: is this going to affect my business relationships, my personal relationships? 251 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: How am I gonna move? And I don't think people 252 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: understand the weight of that of having to make the decision, 253 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: because most folks just don't make the decision. Hey, I'm 254 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: just not gonna say anything. I don't want to set 255 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: my job. I don't want to whatever or whatever. But 256 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: the weight of that, I think there's a misconception of 257 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: thinking that this is something we want to do. How 258 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: did you get called um to do this work on 259 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: Real Housewives in New York Because it's very different, UM 260 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: than it's actually the same with Fox actually be quite honest, 261 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: but it's very different, and you are one of the 262 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: few people that know how parallel it is. Like. And 263 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I say, and I'm not ever joking when I say, girl, 264 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I think people think I'm trying to be cute. I'm not. 265 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: The training ground of being in a space like Fox 266 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: News Network was the perfect preparation for the work I 267 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: am doing on RONI for all the reasons that I 268 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you. And if you don't understand 269 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: what I said, watch both platforms then you'll see. UM. 270 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: So it's heavy work. But you said an important word, 271 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: and that is called m H. I believe in calling. 272 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Some people are called to pulpits, some people are called 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: to classrooms at this juncture in my life, I am 274 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: some people are called to public office and leadership at 275 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: this point in my life. I'm very clear, because I 276 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: believe in in prayer and meditation. I am clear that 277 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: God has called me to do this work on this 278 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: platform at this particular time. I don't know how long 279 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: that calling will be relevant, right, Um. And that's part 280 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: of why I'm going to answer to one of your 281 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: other kind of inquiries, which is the constant negotiation I 282 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: have with myself, both when we were taping and even 283 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: now watching the episodes back, and even as I prepare 284 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: for the reunion taping which will be in many weeks. 285 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: What is too much? When am I doing too much? 286 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Why am I also second guessing some of the ecutive 287 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: decision making that you see? And you see it, I mean, 288 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: I know you could you catch everything too like I do. So. 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: You see the Malcolm X West shirt in the boxing arena, 290 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: you see the Black Lives Matter mask, you see the 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: exonerated five in Central Park. I carry those brothers with 292 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: me on intention, you see. Um, I'll speak to this. 293 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: And the recent episode, we had a Halloween pageant party, okay, 294 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: and I went as uh, she actually was the very 295 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: first black contestant to be in Miss America and the 296 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: year was I think it was nineteen seventy on the dot. 297 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: So when Luanne Um said that that was the theme 298 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: of the party, my first thought, because you know I 299 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: come from pageant, I was like, could I could my 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: black ass even be competing in the same pageant with 301 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: you in the nineteen seventy And of course that's the 302 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: thought my castmates never have to contend with. But I 303 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: had the thought once I realized that was exactly around 304 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: the era of mainstream pageant integration, I wanted to honor that, Teslain. 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: So to me, see, I'm getting to the fact that 306 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: in the confessional, one of my cast mate's Ramona Singer, 307 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: is like, really, am many, Really? You know you can 308 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: never have fun? What I realized, And a lot of 309 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: black people take that position to like they absist. You know, 310 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: we know you. I love what you said the Um 311 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: did you say that? Is it the consequence of consequences 312 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: of consciousness? Yes? Um, So when you're you're carrying that, 313 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: it's fun for me to show up in that level 314 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: of honoring my ancestry and black excellence. So don't get 315 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: it twisted. Y'all. It's my point in this. Um. Sometimes 316 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: the work is the heavy that you speak about. Sometimes 317 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: it's steeped in reiterating, by curious trauma, and sometimes it 318 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: is just fun. Like when I got to put on 319 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: that afro wig and put on my jump suit and 320 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: recite the words um. The spoken word I did um 321 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: is actually a quote from Angela Davis, And that was 322 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: fun for me. Now I get that that might not 323 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: be fun everybody. Oh it was mad as hell. They 324 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. You saw him looking around, But it was 325 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: fun for me. So that is just something I want 326 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: to make clear that that every negotiation is not me 327 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: being a martyr to this work. Some of this for 328 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: me is quite enjoyable. You'll see it when we don't 329 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: have an episode tonight, right, very rewarding. But when we 330 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: come back, UM, I bring the ladies to Harlem, and 331 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it away, but I curate UM 332 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and and my uh, you know good friend Giselle Phelps, 333 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: who helped me curate. We curated a beautiful evening of 334 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: a black cuisine and excellence in a black woman's restaurant 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: here in Harlem. Shout out to be squared in Adrian 336 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: with music that was Spanish Harlem like that ship sets 337 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: my soul on fire in the best way. UM, So 338 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: don't don't crowd any tears for me around that part 339 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: of the work, because it's quite beautiful and quite rewarding. 340 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: As you said, Yeah, we gotta have you back, and 341 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: we have more time because first of all, I want 342 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: to talk about you and dating. I want to talk 343 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: about some fun stuff I want to talk about. I 344 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: want to talk about this matchmaker you got. But before 345 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: I do want you to know. I want you to 346 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: know this, um, because we didn't get a chance to 347 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: talk about it the other day. And this is a 348 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: story that so that you know that what you're doing 349 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: literally is impactful. Ebony. And because you brought up the pageant, 350 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you what I picked up from 351 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: the pageant. Um, my first pageant. I was eleven years 352 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: old and I won the pageant and my cousin crowned me. 353 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Who Now we get along really well, but at that 354 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: time we did not. She was always she had resentment 355 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: against me for various reasons. Um, a lot of issues 356 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: would abandoned man and father. And I know you're getting 357 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: ready to go into that you know, dealing with that too, 358 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: So I definitely want to have you come back with that. 359 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: So now we're very close, but at the time we 360 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: were not. And when I saw these pageants that you did, 361 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: and this is an honest story, it took me back 362 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: to that. And I remember at eleven years old when 363 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I won My Sweetheart, I was so excited. I was 364 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: so excited to get the crown. But the person that 365 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: was giving me the crown didn't want me to win, 366 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: who was my family? The part the people the church 367 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: didn't want me to win. They made a big issue 368 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: about how Leshonda Younger and I did a spoken word piece, 369 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: I did a monologue of Harry Tubman, and everybody in 370 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: the church said, I don't Leshaunda's talent was better. She 371 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: should have won, she should have won. And girl, I 372 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: went back to that when you did that episode and 373 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: thinking about the people who you learned at early because 374 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: y'all talked about, you know, what it was like being 375 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: a pageant and be runner up and um, you know, 376 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: feeling that you deserved it and earned it, and then 377 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, you guys joked about all you know, whatever 378 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: was some bullshit I should have want But what did 379 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: for me, evaning was make me go back to understand, 380 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: especially everything that I go through in this space, particularly 381 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: have recent that there's just some people that just don't 382 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: want you to win. And if they felt like that 383 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: about me at eleven, we had to move churches because 384 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: of that um because it was that hateful and that 385 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't wrap my brain around why would 386 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: you want to take a crown from an eleven year 387 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: old eleven years old girl. So I went to my 388 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: next church, and I found two of my best friends 389 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: who are my best friends today, who have been my 390 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: best friends over thirty years. We've been through everything privaty, 391 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: high school, college, marriage, kids, all of that, and there's 392 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: not a lot of women that can say that about relationships. 393 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: But I'm saying all that to say that even though 394 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: they tried to diminish my spirit so young, it taught 395 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: me a valuable lesson that even placed two now, and 396 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: and it's what we're talking about. Some people just don't 397 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: want you to win. But I want you to know 398 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: that you have sisters like myself and people out there 399 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: that want you to win that knows what it means 400 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: to have a crown on your head. And the old 401 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: body wanted you to have it. That knows what it 402 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: means that even the person that crowned you may not 403 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: want you to have an That could be friend, family, lover, whoever, envy, jealous. 404 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: There's people around you that applaud and clap but really 405 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: are not clapping. But you also need to know every 406 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: and you've got people rooting for you. And I have 407 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: to remind myself this all the time, people that are 408 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: rooting for you, that want you to win, that you 409 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: may not visibly always see um, but but hopefully it 410 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: will continue to touch your spirit and continue to help 411 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: help you keep moving in this space. And that episode 412 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: did a lot for me personally. Now some of the episodes, 413 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: I want to come slap a few of them for you. 414 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, where does ever gonna fighte he a ghetto 415 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: asked friends. They don't have no episode where somebody could 416 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: come girl. When that food across the table, when they 417 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: threw that, I hold up now, I know, yeah, better 418 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: make sure that food don't don't touch shot they're gonna get. 419 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Because I also love that you shared that, and I 420 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: wish we had more time too, because I have my 421 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: own like a real life paget story that changed my 422 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: whole life. In trajectory, it was essentially a long story, 423 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: very short. Um, I was denied a crown, Okay, And 424 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: what you're saying is in in so many words, there 425 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: was an effort to deny you with your crown. And 426 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: this is where the spiritual maturity shows up. Night leven. 427 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: We could You couldn't understand it when mine happened to me. 428 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I was twenties six, So it's still not mature in 429 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: my faith walk to be candid. Now, what I know 430 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: is God has already crowned us, though we are favored, 431 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: it is done. It is done. So uh, first runner 432 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: up when they're mad, not mad, clapping not clapping, It 433 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: don't even matter because our our crown sit divinely invisibly 434 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: everywhere we go. And I do know that there's there's 435 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: those like you. There's those like Eugene Scott, Uh, like 436 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: brother David Johns, who I love so deeply and and 437 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: and and and purposefully, Um, that do pour in to 438 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: the work that we do. And that's why I pick 439 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: up the phone the other night. Because I don't always 440 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: have not good with time. I don't always reach out 441 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: when when I should, But sometimes it just gets on 442 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: my heart space to say, like, since I see you, 443 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I see you, I hear you, 444 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: I revere you. I'm still learning along with you, and 445 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: it's important. Um And I just love that about your 446 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: platform because you don't just do that for me. I 447 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: see you doing that for many others, Teslain. And it's 448 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: one of the things I really respected tomorrow about you, 449 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: and I do hope people follow your lead. There are 450 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: many people that I'm gonna tell you this why it 451 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: is kept even amongst this um and it is a 452 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: sisterhood of those of us that are fellow housewives on 453 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: various shows and various cities. There needs to be more 454 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: of that, Okay, there needs to be more of us 455 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: that occupy these platforms because for whatever our intention to 456 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: be on the show is, we all have powerful, powerful impact, Tesla. 457 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I've been on Fox News, CNN, 458 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: h l N, all these things, our sports, all these 459 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: different platform and nothing can touch the impact of being 460 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: on this Bravo Housewives franchise platform. It is not even 461 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: just the number of viewers, because it doesn't match cable 462 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: news numbers. But there's something about I guess it's the 463 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: peeling back of the curtain of the intimate parts of 464 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: your life too that people feel they are in relationship 465 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: with you, and that is powerful. So I do want 466 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: to just use these final moments to just invite all 467 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: of my sisters that share in this enormous privilege of 468 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: occupying these kind of platforms. Um, just make sure we're 469 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: pouring into each other and creating face, you know, public 470 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: and publicly pouring into each other. And that's what appre 471 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: about you. We show love publicly. You know, the d 472 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: M is one thing, But love me in public? What 473 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: what is it? That's a whole other conversation. But are 474 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: you loving me in public? You know this idea? You know, 475 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't want blow their head up, and why not. 476 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm blowing up yours every day. I'm fighting us, so 477 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: why not? Why not? I want to. I want to 478 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: get it as big as possible. So yeah, Sister Kimberly 479 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Jones is another one. She I just saw her down 480 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, UM doing important work, and she came to 481 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: support the work I was doing with Revolt on the 482 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: JU Team special Dr Contesta Metcalf and Dr Simone Whitmore. 483 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: Dope Queens from married to medicine, loving on each other 484 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: and young ones that are coming in and we're we're 485 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: of the age test where we have this whole new 486 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: generation up underneath us. You know that we are pouring 487 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: into So let's normalize that. I love with you. Let's look, 488 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: let's normalize loving on your sisters and brothers in public. Yeah. Yeah, 489 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: we need more of that. We do, we do well, 490 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. There's so much we gotta talk about. 491 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: We got we got to come back. Um, but it's 492 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: the fun stuff. And once once this storyline with you 493 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: see me going on this journey to find my father, 494 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: it gets extremely deep. Um, and really really it's very 495 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: powerful and I can wait to discuss it more when 496 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: it starts to unfold. For those of you that has 497 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: not watched, please make sure you watch. I have enjoyed 498 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: watching you show vulnerability that I haven't seen, um, showing class, 499 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: having the best nice nasty uh in the business. In 500 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: case people don't pick it up, I love it. Ain't 501 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: nothing like checking somebody with a smile and still checking 502 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: who those who think they're uncheckable, and doing it all 503 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: beautiful all the time, even when they She made the comment, uh, 504 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: what's they made the comment one time I think was uh, 505 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: I forgot which one it was. What she said, do 506 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: you always have to get dolled up every time, every 507 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: mom every moment, Yet every time she do it every 508 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: time every time? No days off? Alright, since I love you, 509 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: but I love to make sure you come back. I 510 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: know you got a hard app for those who listens. 511 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: She gotta get a hard app. But thank you so much, 512 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: Evany for joining us. 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