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Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. So Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: making huge news. He hasn't made news in a really

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Speaker 1: pardoned his son Hunter. This is no surprise here. I've

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Speaker 1: got my fellow conservative commentators all upset that he lied

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Speaker 1: In fact, I told you on this program over and

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Speaker 1: I'm not even mad he lied about it. I'm used

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Speaker 1: to the lies from Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: That's what he is. He's a serial liar.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really not mad about the pardon He exploited.

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Speaker 1: His sent them out to meet with the most devious, evil, deceitful,

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Speaker 1: his son Hunter a pardon. Through all of this, I

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Speaker 1: know that probably surprises everyone down. Hunter Biden is certainly

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Speaker 1: responsible for the crimes that he engaged in, but Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden sent them out there as a mob boss. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he puts family first. Why would anybody be surprised about this.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'm angry about.

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Speaker 1: I'm angry about the Biden crime famili's misdeeds, the money laundering,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm upset about.

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Speaker 1: So he pardons Hunter as a stunning admission. Really remember

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Speaker 1: this pardon and forget about Joe Biden's statement that deals

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Speaker 1: tax charge, these pennyany cases against Hunter Biden. This ultimately

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Speaker 1: crime syndicate that Joe Biden was running and insulating himself.

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Speaker 1: Why else would the pardon go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen. So you can look at Joe Biden's statement,

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Speaker 1: don't look at the pardon itself, and I'll read you

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Speaker 1: the very beginning of it. The pardon itself reads Presidential

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Speaker 1: Pardon of Robert Hunter Biden, a full and unconditional pardon

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Speaker 1: all right for those offenses against the United States, which

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Speaker 1: in during the period of January first, twenty fourteen, through

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's when it all started in Ukraine. That's

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Speaker 1: when Joe Biden was out there fire and prosecutors that

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Speaker 1: were investigating his son, Hunters Berez. The company was paying

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Speaker 2: All other than literally a connection to Joe Biden, who

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Speaker 1: So I believe here's what's to come next, more pardons.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden will pardon himself, Joe Biden will pardon his

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Speaker 1: brother James, and I think he'll even pardon Jill Biden,

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Speaker 1: his wife. Because Joe Biden, I believe, is the consolieri

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Speaker 1: through all of this, this giant crime syndicate they were operating.

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Speaker 1: Wats those pardons to come. I'm not the only one

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Speaker 3: Am relieved and thrilled that he did it. I think

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Speaker 3: this was one of those cases that called out for clemency.

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Speaker 3: I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons

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Speaker 3: to all of those people threatened by the unjustice of

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Speaker 3: That of course includes Jack Smith and all of his staff,

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Speaker 3: many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself.

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Speaker 1: So she has a different reason for calling for the

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Speaker 2: This was some kind of a great move.

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Speaker 1: I actually believe it's pretty disgusting, but par for the

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Speaker 2: See, Joe always knew the pardon was coming. The jig

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Speaker 1: Though we were the ones he was playing a joke

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Speaker 1: on by claiming he wasn't going to pardon his son Hunter,

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Speaker 1: we always knew he was. He doesn't care about his

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Speaker 2: Crimes that they committed.

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Speaker 1: This isn't political persecution like it is against President Trump.

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Speaker 1: This is literally the ability to go after people were

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Speaker 1: This is Scott Jennings this commentator on CNN who's making

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Speaker 4: Why did he need an eleven year blanket pardon? Going

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Speaker 4: we are sitting on the biggest cover up of who

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Speaker 2: He knows just about when it all started.

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Speaker 4: He's leading office in complete and total disgrace. He is

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the reality, though, we do know what crimes.

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Speaker 1: Are going to talk about that a little bit later

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Speaker 1: in the show. We're not going to forget the crimes

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Speaker 1: pardon himself and James and Jill mark my words on this.

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Speaker 2: You will see it will come.

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Speaker 1: They want to protect their fortune and they certainly don't

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Speaker 2: That late age.

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Speaker 1: Now, what does this say about Joe Biden was willing

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Speaker 1: to literally not just lie to the American people, but

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Speaker 2: Marched out in.

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Speaker 1: Front of the media to make a claim that Joe

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Speaker 5: One with a president partner for commute his son if

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Speaker 2: So I've answered this question before.

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Speaker 6: It was asked of me not too long ago, a

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Speaker 2: The first question of the briefing. I know you said

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Speaker 7: A presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the president

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Speaker 2: Lies?

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Speaker 1: All lies, As my grandfather used to say, Well, the

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Speaker 1: media bought it too.

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Speaker 2: They thought Joe was.

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Speaker 1: Such a hero for claiming he wouldn't pardon Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: And this was not going to be a situation like

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Speaker 1: at the equal justice. He used Hunter Biden, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to let the justice system play out.

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Speaker 2: Loon behold, that was a big lie.

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Speaker 1: But watch the media buy an into all of it.

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Speaker 5: He even went so far as to say he wouldn't

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Speaker 2: That's how much respect he has for the system.

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Speaker 8: President has said that he will not pardon his son.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of that?

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Speaker 9: I thought it was extraordinary. I mean, it was a

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Speaker 9: moment of just moral clarity.

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Speaker 2: He could still pardon him, he said he won't do that.

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Speaker 1: All of that conduct, given it's his son, is kind

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden was found guilty by a jury of his peers, just.

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Speaker 9: Like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Because this is our justice system at work. The divide

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Speaker 2: here is stunning moral clarity. One of them says, or

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Speaker 2: City's lying to you the whole time.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care about any of us. All he cares

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Speaker 1: about are Biden riches. Everything Joe Biden has done has backfired.

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Speaker 1: Everything the Democrats have done as backfired. They went after

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Speaker 1: President Trump with a vengeance. It backfired. He said he

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Speaker 1: and even as people like Joe Walsh, this deceitful Republican

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Speaker 7: This pardon is just deflating for those of us who

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Speaker 2: Do something like this.

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Speaker 7: Trump, nobody's above the law, We've been screaming. Well, Joe

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Speaker 7: Biden just made clear his son Hunter is above the law.

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Speaker 1: So you want to know how Joe Biden could have

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Speaker 1: saved face the roll of this, Like literally the pr

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Speaker 1: to not only pardon his son Hunter, but say, in

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Speaker 1: the name of justice, in the name of fairness, in

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Speaker 1: the name of unity. He remember he claimed to be

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Speaker 1: that unity president. I'm going to pardon President Trump as well,

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Speaker 1: any and all crimes committed since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that have it something? Then? What would we have

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Speaker 1: He pardons President Trump, pardons Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Biden. Boy, he would have saved face.

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Speaker 1: Look at this great president caring for his son, caring

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Speaker 2: Like I said, too dumb.

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Speaker 1: So again they want to bring into question many of

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Speaker 1: the Democrats do.

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Speaker 2: The presidential pardon power.

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Speaker 1: They want to visit this, say, maybe it's unconstitutional.

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Speaker 2: I need to visit the pardon power of the president.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just don't elect crooks and liars.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way to go about it.

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Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden lying to David mure cut six.

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Speaker 10: Through all of this, your son Hunter is on trial,

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Speaker 10: and I know that you cannot speak about an ongoing

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Speaker 10: federal prosecution. But let me ask you. Will you accept

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Speaker 10: the jury's outcome. They're verdict no matter what it is. Yes,

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Speaker 10: And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?

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Speaker 2: Yes? There it is, Folks.

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Speaker 1: Again, the presidential pardon isn't the problem electing a crook,

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Speaker 1: a cheat, and a liar is don't make the mistake again, America.

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Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line with me now. Constitutional law

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Speaker 1: expert founder of the Parker Trial law Firm, Adam Parker.

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Speaker 2: Is with us. Adam, I know you've defended.

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Speaker 1: Suspect in criminal cases, federal cases.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. First and foremost, thanks glad to

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Speaker 9: Grant.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's good to have you on. So Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden Pardon's hunter. There's nothing illegal about this, is there?

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Speaker 6: The president has broad pardon powers actually, so there's very

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Speaker 6: few limits on what he can pardon and who he

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Speaker 2: Let me play a clip from you.

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Speaker 1: This is Congressman Connelly basically say we need to revisit

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Speaker 1: the presidential pardon powers. I find it so funny that

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Speaker 1: just change the constitution. This is typical democrats, Roll cut ten.

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Speaker 11: What other father in America has the power to pardon

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Speaker 11: his son or daughter if they're convicted of a crime.

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Speaker 11: I really think we have to revisit the pardon power

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Speaker 11: in the Constitution, and at the very least, I think

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Speaker 2: So I think it's going to stay as it is.

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Speaker 1: The first impression, you don't and quite frankly, if President

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Speaker 2: If I was his advisor, I'd tell.

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Speaker 1: Him to do the exact same thing, including using this

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about the crimes that Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: They streamed me.

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Speaker 6: I mean, someone could go to jail realistically if he

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Speaker 2: But you were for charge with that kind of tax.

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Speaker 6: Evasion over however, many I think it was nine charges

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Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder how that would work out, which

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Speaker 2: It says.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd.

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Speaker 6: Go that far, but I will say this is a

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Speaker 6: and I wonder if it's too broad if someone tried

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Speaker 1: So it again, every constitutional lawyer I've talked to says

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have a charge a crime charged.

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Speaker 1: You can add this, maybe charged with all this, it's

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I necessarily agree with that assessment. Mike Davis,

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure the Constitution reads that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Fifth Amendments says anything you have

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Speaker 9: Well, I actually think you do.

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Speaker 6: I have to be facing a crime otherwise it would

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Speaker 6: which is essentially what Hunter's got here. I mean, you'd

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Speaker 1: So the initial line of the Fifth Amendment is you

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Speaker 2: The first line doesn't say it's about you.

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Speaker 1: It gets later the Fifth Amendment into you don't have

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Speaker 2: But it'd be interesting to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is, I'm not sure Republicans in Congress

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Adam Parker.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on today and talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Graham.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, folks. So here we're going to turn

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Speaker 1: to who should be pardoned?

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Speaker 2: Next?

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Speaker 1: Well, when I'm talking about pardoning someone next, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about who should President Trump pardon. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: pardon whoever he wants to pardon. Now, John Bolton, the

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Speaker 2: To say, I disagree with him.

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Speaker 12: Watch after saying repeatedly during the campaign, which is when

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Speaker 12: pardon his son. Now he's gone and done it. So

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Speaker 12: when Trump pardons the January sixth defendants of the people

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Speaker 1: So you don't need to say I did it because

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden did it. The presidential pardon power is there

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Speaker 1: for one reason, one reason only, to right the wrongs

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Speaker 2: That's what it's there for.

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, the Jay sixers have to be pardoned,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying every single one of them.

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Speaker 2: Were there a few that deserves some form.

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Speaker 1: Of punishment, Yes, absolutely, there were a couple who got

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Speaker 1: rough and humble, but they don't deserve four or five

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Speaker 2: If they haven't been charged, or even if they.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been convicted yet, because in the President's mind and

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Speaker 2: They need to be pardoned right away. Who else needs

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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon needs to be pardoned one hundred percent, He

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Speaker 2: What can we expect from them as soon as they

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Speaker 1: As many of you know, Cash Battel, a terrific friend

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Speaker 1: nominated to be the next FBI director. This sent the

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Speaker 1: liberals into the stratosphere. They are apoplectic about this choice.

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Speaker 1: Why because Cashptel will upend the FBI as we know it.

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Speaker 2: And that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Anytime a guy like Andrew McCabe, this deep state or

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Speaker 13: So I think what we should what we should really

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Speaker 13: be thinking about right now is what does this signal

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Speaker 13: in terms of Donald Trump's intent for the FBI, the

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Speaker 13: this point of Cash Pattel's FBI director can only possibly

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Speaker 2: Well, bingo on all of it, except for the point.

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Speaker 1: About using it to enact and engage in President Trump's

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Speaker 2: Against the real criminals. That'd be nice if the FBI did.

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Speaker 1: That for the last last twelve years, but no, it's

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Speaker 1: a deep state agency that literally wants to go after

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Speaker 1: anybody that disagrees with them. This is Cash Betel proving

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Speaker 1: why the liberals are so upset.

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Speaker 14: And I think another power of President Trump is a

447
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Speaker 14: transparency he's willing to bring to the federal government. And

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Speaker 14: I think that's what scares Washington, DC, maybe more than anything,

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Speaker 14: in my opinion. He can expose the documents that these

450
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Speaker 14: folks have written for decades allowing these corrupt activities. And

451
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Speaker 14: there's nothing wrong with examining your government. If they failed,

452
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Speaker 14: you can.

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Speaker 1: You imagine now Cash Hotel with the keys to the

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Speaker 1: FBI to examine any document he wants in there. Well,

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Speaker 1: joining me now, former White House official and founder of Revolver.

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Speaker 2: News, Darren J. Beattie is with us. Darren, Welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the program. Great to be back with you.

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Speaker 1: You have talked and you and I have talked about

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Speaker 1: Cash Battel in the past about him going in to

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Speaker 1: the FBI.

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Speaker 2: What what do you make.

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Speaker 1: Of his chances to get Senate confirmation. I'm a little

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Speaker 1: concerned because I worry about these Republicans that are what

464
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Speaker 1: we would call rhinos, But I think he gets through.

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Speaker 2: How do you stand on this?

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Speaker 5: Well, as you probably know, I was extraordinarily enthusiastic and

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Speaker 5: optimistic about Matt Gates for the DOJ, and I thought

468
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Speaker 5: he was going to be able to get through by

469
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Speaker 5: the skin of his teeth. Obviously it didn't work out

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Speaker 5: that way. So I'm a bit more cautiously optimistic when

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Speaker 5: it comes to Cash Mattel, who is, like Gates, a

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Speaker 5: dream appointee. I hope that the Senate will be more

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Speaker 5: cooperative here. It would be exceptional, it would be really

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Speaker 5: it's necessary to have somebody like that in charge of

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Speaker 5: the FBI. So I hope that the Senate will reconsider

476
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Speaker 5: whatever reservations they might have, if they have any, and

477
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Speaker 5: for once, just give the rubber stamp. Give the Trump

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Speaker 5: the team that he wants and that he needs and

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Speaker 5: that the country needs to fulfill the mandate.

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Speaker 2: So, Darren, when you look.

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Speaker 1: At all this playing out, providing he gets in, which

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Speaker 1: I think he may end up squeaking through on this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a tough battle, but I think he does. What

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Speaker 1: would you advise, cash Fattella, And I want everyone at

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Speaker 1: home to remember, Darren Beattie, there's nobody like this guy

486
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Speaker 1: when it comes to exposing the fraud of J six

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Speaker 1: when it comes to exposing some of the fraud of

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Speaker 1: FBI activities, What would you want him to do?

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Speaker 2: First order of business?

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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't be presumptuous in that regard. I assume

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Speaker 5: there are some things that are just very high priority

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Speaker 5: that he'd have to take care of. But I think

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Speaker 5: that one of the top ten things should be to

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Speaker 5: take this January sixth investigation, the FED surrection investigation that

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Speaker 5: we've developed, that we've pushed to the very end stages,

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Speaker 5: And as I've mentioned on numerous occasions, I think on

497
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Speaker 5: your program as well. We know exactly what needs to

498
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Speaker 5: be done to finalize this exposure, and all we need

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Speaker 5: is a cooperative director of the FBI and a cooperative

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Speaker 5: Attorney General. And so I'm hoping and I expect, given

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Speaker 5: what I know about him, and I know him a

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Speaker 5: little bit, not as well as I know Matt Gates,

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Speaker 5: but I know him a little bit, and I know

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Speaker 5: that he is aware of the pipe bomb story, he's

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Speaker 5: aware of some of the stuff that we've broken ground on,

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Speaker 5: and I suspect that he will be amenable to helping

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Speaker 5: us carry this through that very last step. Because we

508
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Speaker 5: have names, we have all the items. We can serve

509
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Speaker 5: it up in a silver platter and simply say we

510
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Speaker 5: need you to do X, Y and Z, and then

511
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Speaker 5: the whole thing is done and one of the biggest

512
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Speaker 5: scale handles in American history is exposed.

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Speaker 1: Well, as I said about DOJ, it would be great

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Speaker 1: for the FBI to somehow get cooperation from you to

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Speaker 1: start pointing people in the right direction, pointing people cash

516
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Speaker 1: PTEL can trust in the right direction to go and

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Speaker 1: cover some of these things.

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Speaker 2: I worry, just like.

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Speaker 1: The DOJ, now that the FBI may may be a

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Speaker 1: crime scene as well, that they'll be destroying documents, they'll

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Speaker 1: be destroying confidential informants information on them. All that's illegal,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't seem to stop them before and engaging

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Speaker 1: in illegal activity.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I suspect they're going to and probably they've had

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Speaker 5: a lot of time. Look, it's come out that the

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Speaker 5: FBI as early as twenty twenty two, when another agency

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Speaker 5: was investigating the pipe bomb they couldn't even watch the

528
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Speaker 5: January sixth surveillance footage at the FBI because the FBI

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Speaker 5: had already deleted it. So all of the major things

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Speaker 5: I'm sure the FBI has already gotten rid of. But

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Speaker 5: that being said, I still have certain things that I

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Speaker 5: won't disclose now because I don't want them to get

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Speaker 5: a step ahead of it. There are certain things that

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Speaker 5: absolutely can be done within the corridors and the auspices

535
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Speaker 5: of the FBI that will absolutely lead to exposing the

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Speaker 5: identity of the people involved in this pipe bomb scam.

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway I can help you in getting that information

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Speaker 1: to Cash on the down low, I'm happy to do

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Speaker 1: that because that's the kind.

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Speaker 2: Of information he's going to need. And cooperation.

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Speaker 1: How hard do you think it's going to be for

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Speaker 1: him dealing with the old guard in there and getting

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of what he needs.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be extraordinarily difficult.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the difficulty of managing the FBI given its

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Speaker 5: current configuration, will vastly outweigh the difficulty even of the

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Speaker 5: Senate confirmation. So it remains to be seen, and I

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Speaker 5: hope that there's a real plan in place, so it's

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Speaker 5: not simply this thing where you have someone who is

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Speaker 5: aligned and who wants to do good but is simply

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Speaker 5: not in a position to do so. And I've said

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Speaker 5: this about a former Attorney General Barr. It happened to

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Speaker 5: be the case the bar was a coward. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: Bar was a coward. I don't think that's the case

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Speaker 5: with Cash. But my argument was always even if Barr

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Speaker 5: had not been a coward, he couldn't have done much

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Speaker 5: with the DOJ because the whole bureaucracy would have opposed him.

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Speaker 5: And so it's like a double layer problem. Yes, he's

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Speaker 5: a coward and he shouldn't have been. But even if

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Speaker 5: he were energetically interested in doing what needed to be

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Speaker 5: done without any concern for his own safety, political reputation whatsoever,

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Speaker 5: it still would have been near impossible to get what

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Speaker 5: he needed to get done given the configuration and the

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Speaker 5: orientation in the hostility of the bureaucracy that he ran.

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Speaker 1: You know, this may be totally politically and correct, but

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Speaker 1: this is where you need a street fighter to go

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Speaker 1: in and help people like Cash and the next Attorney

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Speaker 1: General to go in there and you literally threaten these

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Speaker 1: deep staters with exposing them publicly unless they move on

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Speaker 1: out of the way. You take the low level guys

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Speaker 1: that you can make those deals with, get them out

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Speaker 1: of the way so you can start to do some work.

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Speaker 1: You go after the big fish, because let's face.

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Speaker 2: The little one don't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you move some people to des Moines, Iowa that

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Speaker 1: were making their way in Washington, DC. You get them

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Speaker 1: to quit and you start to root this out. It's

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Speaker 1: not always pretty the way you have to do it,

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Speaker 1: but you got to start somehow, and maybe it takes

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Speaker 1: that kind of thinking in order to get it done

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Speaker 1: real quick.

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Speaker 5: Your final thoughts, Darren, I think, so you need a

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Speaker 5: street fighter, but you also need someone who truly has

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Speaker 5: that institutional knowledge, understands the intricacies of the bureauocracies, where

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Speaker 5: the pressure points are, what the networks are These political people,

586
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Speaker 5: they come and go. There was a reason we use

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Speaker 5: the term deep state. It's the permanent state. It's the

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Speaker 5: bureaucracy that remains irrespective of who's formally running the government.

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Speaker 5: And so I think in addition to that combative, fearless disposition,

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Speaker 5: you need people on Cash's side who have that really intricate,

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Speaker 5: long standing institutional knowledge to know where those pressure points

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Speaker 5: are that the street fighter can push.

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Speaker 1: The hardest part of that is going to be fine

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Speaker 1: people you could trust that have that knowledge. This is

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Speaker 1: going to be an interesting play and situation as it

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Speaker 1: plays out. Darren Beatty, Revolver News. We always appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming on, buddy, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, speaking of a tough job, Elon Musk,

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk and the vek Ramaswami are now going to

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Speaker 1: run DOGE, the Department Government Accountability and Efficiency, Department of

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Speaker 1: Government Efficiency, I believe it's real name. It's not even

603
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Speaker 1: a real government agency, by the way, which means how

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Speaker 1: much can they actually get done?

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Speaker 2: The other question I have is Elon.

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Speaker 1: Musk is a guy who demands I would say perfection.

607
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Speaker 1: He demands things to get done in an efficient manner.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what this is going to be like

609
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Speaker 1: for him going into government? Nothing's efficient. I'm worried it's

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Speaker 1: going to get very frustrated. I want to bring in

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Speaker 1: now a member of the SpaceX founding team. He is

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Speaker 1: now co founder of Phantom Space Corporation. He looked at

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk as one of his top mentors, knows him

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Speaker 1: very well.

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Speaker 2: Our good friend Jim Cantrell is back with us. Jim,

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Speaker 2: it's good to see you, and I agree, yeah, agreed

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Speaker 2: to see you.

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Speaker 1: So you know Elon, well, I have to believe a

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Speaker 1: guy like Elon, once he gets involved in this, is

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Speaker 1: going to be wildly frustrated.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, well, you know, I think maybe because the

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Speaker 8: government will frustrate anybody. But on the other hand, you know,

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Speaker 8: if you look at what Elon did back in the

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Speaker 8: early two thousands when he said, look, you know, we're

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Speaker 8: going to take space from the hands of the nation

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Speaker 8: state and make it a commercial, private thing. And look

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Speaker 8: what he's done, and you know, it was a literally

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Speaker 8: an active insanity what we did back then by saying, oh,

629
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Speaker 8: guess what, guys, we're going to build rockets ourselves and

630
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Speaker 8: look look where it is now. So he is not

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Speaker 8: the kind of guy that takes no for an answer.

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Speaker 8: He's not the kind of guy that concedes conceives a failure.

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Speaker 8: And he's going to go at this with every fiber

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Speaker 8: in his beam, I believe.

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Speaker 1: So when he gets in there, the goal again is

636
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Speaker 1: to cut government. Can you start with NASA? And how

637
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Speaker 1: does that look with him going and taking a look

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Speaker 1: at NASA.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's going to be a painful process.

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Speaker 8: So you know, my personal view of NASA, and I've

641
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Speaker 8: worked with in my entire career, is that that you know,

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Speaker 8: they are not an agency that ought to be building

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Speaker 8: things there agency that ought to be a mission oriented

644
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Speaker 8: type of group.

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Speaker 9: That sends humans in the space.

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Speaker 8: That things that don't have a financial return. And they

647
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Speaker 8: have a workforce that is really tailored to the congressional

648
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Speaker 8: makeup of their centers. And so the workforce is probably

649
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Speaker 8: going to have to be massively trinmed and that's going

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Speaker 8: to be very painful politically. That'll be what I think

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Speaker 8: is interesting to see how Elon is going to navigate.

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Speaker 2: Those political waters.

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Speaker 8: We're seeing some of that already where he goes in

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Speaker 8: and he says, Look, you oppose what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 8: I'm in a primary, which means he's going to go

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Speaker 8: in and fund the opposition. Maybe this will work, maybe

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Speaker 8: it won't, Maybe.

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Speaker 2: It will backfire spectacularly.

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Speaker 1: Do you ad guys like Elon and you're so involved

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Speaker 1: in space and everything happening with it? Is there a

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Speaker 1: respect for NASA? Is NASA even needed? What would rather

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Speaker 1: see NASA go away?

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Speaker 2: What? Or is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it a fight between the private entities and NASA?

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Speaker 2: How does that play out?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 8: So I actually I love NASA, and I think everybody

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Speaker 8: I work with, I don't know anybody that has ever

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Speaker 8: hated NASA. Sometimes we hate when NASA does. You know,

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Speaker 8: if you go back to the beginning of my career

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Speaker 8: in the mid eighties, I got so tired of them

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Speaker 8: doing nothing with all this money they got from US

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Speaker 8: taxpayers that I went over to the French Space Agency

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Speaker 8: and to lose to actually do something to do with

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Speaker 8: Mars mission. So I think that's become more prevalent of

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Speaker 8: the attitude. And you know, NASA really represents a lot

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Speaker 8: of what's great in this country, which is this human

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Speaker 8: spirit of exploration. And looking around the next corner, knowing

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Speaker 8: what's there. They really got to go back to that

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Speaker 8: core of what NASA is all about, which is mission oriented.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I'm a very big critic of NASA

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Speaker 8: building all this stuff themselves. You know, this rocket that

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Speaker 8: they build, I call it the rocket to nowhere.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: I like to say that if if NASA could build

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Speaker 8: iPhones and get away with it, they probably do it.

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Speaker 8: But they can't get away with it, and it's a

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Speaker 8: stupid idea.

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Speaker 1: Well, it should be interesting to see all this play out,

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Speaker 1: just as cash Betel going into the FBI.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how the.

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Speaker 1: Next Attorney General does, and of course Elon and Vivek

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Speaker 1: Ramaswami trying to pair down government. Lastly, before I let

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Speaker 1: you leave any predictions, Elon seems to be successful at

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Speaker 1: everything he does.

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Speaker 8: I think you'd be successful at this, but probably it'll

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Speaker 8: be a lot tougher. It'll be a lot longer than

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Speaker 8: he ever imagined. And I think he's reached this pinnacle

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Speaker 8: of influence in the world right now and he doesn't

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Speaker 8: have any idea how he's going to solve it. But

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Speaker 8: you know, he's been here before, and he solved these

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Speaker 8: kind of big problems because he's the kind of guy

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Speaker 8: that just never gives up.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jim, I invited you on the program because I

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Speaker 1: know you were going on CNN. You were very worried

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Speaker 1: about your reputation, I mean totally ruined going on and.

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Speaker 2: You know I watched that interview.

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Speaker 1: They actually were okay, they were trying to do their job,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't that bad I think in the end.

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Speaker 1: And I was glad you went on there because, as

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Speaker 1: I said to you, I said, they need your voice

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Speaker 1: over on these networks that don't have a voice like yours.

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Speaker 8: Right right, Well, I appreciate you having me on here, Grant,

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Speaker 8: and I feel completely rehabilitated after a period.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you don't need a shower after come on this show.

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Speaker 1: You do after see it on unfortunately, Buddy, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The founder of Phantom Space Corporation.

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Speaker 2: Jim Cantell, appreciate it all right, folks.

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Speaker 1: I want to get back now to Joe Biden, because

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Speaker 1: what I don't want people to forget about is the

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Speaker 1: crimes committed. I believe this pardon of Hunter Biden is

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Speaker 1: nothing more than a cover up That's why it goes

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Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen. Do you remember this clip. This

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Speaker 1: clip is c one for the guys behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: This is Joe Biden basically reiterating what I believe is

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Speaker 1: a total admission.

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Speaker 2: This is him admitting of.

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Speaker 1: The crimes that he committed for his own personal gain

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine.

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Speaker 15: Listen, I said no, I said, I'm not going to

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Speaker 15: We're not going to give you the billion dollars. They said,

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Speaker 15: you have no authority, you're not the president. The president said,

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Speaker 15: I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you're not

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Speaker 15: getting a billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion.

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna be leaving here. And I think it was

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Speaker 15: what six hours. I look at I said, I'm leaving

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Speaker 15: it six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not

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Speaker 15: getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch got fired.

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Speaker 1: That to me summed it all up. It's why this

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Speaker 1: goes back to twenty fourteen. It all starts in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: and then it just expands across.

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Speaker 2: The globe like you wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to bring in now another great friend

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Speaker 1: of this program, Seamus Bruner. He's with the Government Accountability Institute.

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Speaker 1: They've been at the forefront of exposing the Biden crime

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Speaker 1: family shamous.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the.

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Speaker 16: Program, Gran, It's always the pleasure. Yeah, So Joe's pardon

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Speaker 16: of Hunter was actually a pardon of Joe.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of an.

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Speaker 16: Unprecedented scenario in which the pardon of another person frees

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Speaker 16: up the president from investigation. We know that the tax

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Speaker 16: charges lead directly to Joe. The gun charges, which were

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Speaker 16: the most aggressively pursued charges, conveniently have nothing to do

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Speaker 16: with Joe. So focusing on the tax charges for a second.

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Speaker 16: The DOJ said that this was part of an influence

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Speaker 16: pedaling operation. Whose influence and who was a Hunter pedaling?

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Speaker 2: Two? Obviously Joe.

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Speaker 16: And so you're keying in on Ukraine and that clip

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Speaker 16: that's perfect because that is the bribery. Section two one

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Speaker 16: of eighteen USC says that bribery is anything of value

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Speaker 16: for any official action. You heard Joe Biden talk about

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Speaker 16: the official action. The thing of value was the millions

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Speaker 16: and millions of dollars to Hunter. It and by the way,

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Speaker 16: the statutes don't say whether the money has to go

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Speaker 16: to the principal Joe himself or not.

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Speaker 2: It actually can go to a family member.

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Speaker 16: So bribery, Pharah, all these other charges. When Joe pardon's hunter,

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Speaker 16: he's getting away with it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I believe this pardon is all

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Speaker 1: part of the cover up and an insulation technique. But

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing, Seamus, and you would know better

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Speaker 1: than I would.

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Speaker 2: What about James Biden? What about Jill Biden.

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Speaker 1: I've called Jill Biden the concilierian all of this. I

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Speaker 1: think she was right at the center of everything going on.

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Speaker 1: Don't they need to be pardon too, because the government

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Speaker 1: could still go after them in some manner and it

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Speaker 1: would all lead back to Joe, I would assume as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 16: I just heard from Oversight chair James Comer just a

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Speaker 16: few moments ago. He says that Jim Biden pardon is

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Speaker 16: likely next. That wouldn't shock me, Sarah Biden. Of course,

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Speaker 16: the Biden five is Frank Biden, the other brother.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Valerie.

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Speaker 16: I haven't seen any criminality on Valerie the sister's part.

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Speaker 2: She was mostly running the campaigns. You never know.

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Speaker 16: Ashley Biden, the daughter, and her husband, Howard, they had

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Speaker 16: some light influence pedaling, They had some companies that got

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Speaker 16: showings at the Biden White House and they benefited from that.

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Speaker 16: But it's not quite on the same scale as Hunter.

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Speaker 16: But influence, pedaling, and bribery, these aren't even the most

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Speaker 16: serious charges that should be levied.

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Speaker 9: Here.

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Speaker 16: We're talking about selling out your country to China, Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 16: And when the parting goes back to January twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 16: Remember December twenty thirteen, Joe and Hunter flew on Air

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Speaker 16: Force two back when he was VP to China. Ten

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Speaker 16: days later, coming up on January twenty fourteen is when

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Speaker 16: the Bank of China billion dollar private.

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Speaker 2: Equity deal happened.

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Speaker 16: And what did they do Hunter's business partners, these Chinese spies,

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Speaker 16: what did they do with that money? They purchased an

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Speaker 16: American company in Michigan called Hennegeiz, which made sensitive military parts.

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Speaker 16: It required scifious approval, approval from this committee that Joe

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Speaker 16: Biden had influence on, John Kerry Obama, all Obama people.

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Speaker 16: They approved the deal that allowed the Chinese military contractors

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Speaker 16: to purchase an American defense supplier. So these are much

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Speaker 16: bigger than just tax charges and gun charges and all

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Speaker 16: of that. These are serious, serious selling out your country

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Speaker 16: type charges.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we know that Comer and Jim Jordan

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Speaker 1: over judiciary been looking into this a little disappointed in

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Speaker 1: the outcomes. Nothing really seemed to have happened with any

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Speaker 1: of it. Now we have a new administration. The DOJ

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Speaker 1: could go look into this. But let's take the assumption

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Speaker 1: that he does go pardon the Biden five. If he

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Speaker 1: does that, it is over. There's nothing there. We lose,

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Speaker 1: they win, don't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean it's always been assumed.

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Speaker 16: I mean, for me, at least, I always assume that

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Speaker 16: Joe Biden was going to pardon his family members.

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Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, of course. I never thought that Hunter.

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Speaker 16: Biden not to be pushing black pills out here on

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Speaker 16: the audience. But I never thought that Hunter Biden or

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Speaker 16: any Biden would see the inside of a jail cell.

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Speaker 2: I looked into the Clintons extensively.

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Speaker 16: And Bill Clinton pardoned his brother, he pardoned other family members,

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Speaker 16: and they got away with it. And by the way,

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Speaker 16: Bill Clinton was selling the pardons. He was taking one

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Speaker 16: hundred grand a pop for his pardons. And this got investigated.

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Speaker 16: This goes up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court

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Speaker 16: has ruled the constitution is clear. The pardon power of

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Speaker 16: the president is absolute, and so you know, we can

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Speaker 16: be upset about that.

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Speaker 2: I will say that there is a form of justice.

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Speaker 16: The Biden crime family will go down in history as

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Speaker 16: the most corrupt first family ever, and so that is

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Speaker 16: a form of justice. It's little consolation. But just back

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Speaker 16: on your last segment, this is why it's so important

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Speaker 16: that cash, Betel and Pambonny be confirmed and they do

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Speaker 16: not let this get all swept under the rug. There

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Speaker 16: can certainly be more investigations. Whether or not all the

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Speaker 16: crimes are covered in this blanket get out of jail

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Speaker 16: free card from Joe, it remains to be seen and

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Speaker 16: there are a lot of other people that he's not

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Speaker 16: going to be able to pardon that need to be investigated.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The other way to go after this is if you

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Speaker 1: get some state district attorneys or state attorneys general to

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Speaker 1: go and look at state crimes because the party doesn't

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Speaker 1: cover those. And if you can find where the bank

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Speaker 1: accounts were and which states they were. Now you know,

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Speaker 1: if they're running this through blue states, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. But you get a red state, maybe it

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Speaker 1: add some accounts in Texas. I don't know, and Ken

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Speaker 1: Paxson will go after them, but hopefully it's not over.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been great exposing them. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming on tonight. Seamus Browner with Governor Government Accountability Institute.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, buddy as always. Thanks Ran.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, folks, So you know, all of this

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Speaker 1: leads me back to say, what do you do to

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Speaker 1: protect your assets when you got chaos in the world.

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Speaker 1: We know, government spending may decrease a little bit, inflation's

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Speaker 1: not going to all of a sudden disappear.

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Speaker 2: The rate of inflation may come.

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Speaker 1: Down, but still this makes gold a very attractive place

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Speaker 1: to put your money to protect your portfolio.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that has stood the test of time. How

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Speaker 2: do you do this?

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Speaker 1: must do this by December twentieth. Okay, text America to

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Speaker 1: the number nine eight nine eight nine eight do it today?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, folks, we will get to President Trump

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Speaker 1: has a strong message to Hamas and we've got a

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Speaker 1: border update as well. President Trump getting stuff done.

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Speaker 2: He's not even in office yet. Stick with me. Well, folks,

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Speaker 2: President Trump is getting it done.

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Speaker 1: He's already got in Mexico said, you know what, migrants

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Speaker 1: can't be coming through here and going to Mexico. This

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Speaker 1: is video, by the way, of that happening in Tapachula, Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Capachula is right on the border Guatemala and Mexico, and

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Speaker 1: these are Mexican officials saying, you know what, go home.

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Speaker 1: You know who shot this video, as our border correspondent,

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Speaker 1: Oscar blue Riverez, who's been following this story.

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Speaker 2: Will it really work?

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Speaker 1: Will the Mexican government really start turning these migrant caravans around? Oscar,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program. As always, it's great to see you,

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Speaker 1: my friends.

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Speaker 2: So will they.

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Speaker 17: Grant is always an armored to be with you. Well,

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Speaker 17: they're starting to do so grand And then this is

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Speaker 17: the tariff. You know, the threat of the tariff that

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Speaker 17: I have so much talked about. You know, that is

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Speaker 17: the number one thing that it was going to hit

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Speaker 17: them in the pockets, to the Mexican government and ultimately

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Speaker 17: to make them understand that they need to start working

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Speaker 17: not only on protecting the border with Mexico in the

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Speaker 17: United States of America, but also the Salt border with

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Speaker 17: Mexico and Guatemala where the cartel and is operating massively

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Speaker 17: trafficking migrants into Mexico City. Now we see that there

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Speaker 17: was another caravan coming out just today in the morning,

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Speaker 17: earlier at three o'clock in the morning, and it was

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Speaker 17: intercepted by Borter agents around fifty to one hundred Borter

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Speaker 17: agents with a lot of you know, these units that

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Speaker 17: they were accompanying on the road on the highway, and

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Speaker 17: they stopped and then they were negotiated with them, talking

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Speaker 17: to them, telling them and you know what, you're risky

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Speaker 17: your life, you're risky your children's life. It's better for

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Speaker 17: you to return back and to do your process correctly.

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Speaker 17: And there was a point of interception when they were

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Speaker 17: telling them, no, you cannot continue, you need to return

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Speaker 17: back oscar.

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Speaker 1: How hard is it for people to get through from

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Speaker 1: whether it's Guatemala or what Panama as well, right into

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Speaker 1: Mexico for them to cross that border getting into Mexico

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Speaker 1: on their way to the United States. Does the Mexican

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Speaker 1: government control their southern border?

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Speaker 17: You know, it is wide open, grant and this is

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Speaker 17: thanks to the Global Compact on migration. You know, the

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Speaker 17: United Nations is the one that has you know, completely

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Speaker 17: with their proxies and the angos as to what is

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Speaker 17: happening right now in the voters of the United States

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Speaker 17: with Mexico. But you know, the voters are wide open

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Speaker 17: right now with what Themala and Mexico. What happened before

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Speaker 17: when Trump was president and he put the first threat

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Speaker 17: of a tariff into Mexico, they started dissolving these caravans

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Speaker 17: before they entered into Mexico.

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Speaker 9: So it is a domino effect.

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Speaker 17: It is a collateral effect that is going to also

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Speaker 17: you know, tell what the Themala.

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Speaker 9: You need to protect your voters.

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Speaker 17: Also what them that particular time started acting dissolving caravans,

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Speaker 17: sending a message to the next country, and so on

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Speaker 17: and so on and so on. This is a domino effect, uh,

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Speaker 17: and it is it has worked effectively. So now this

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Speaker 17: threat of a tariff, you know, President Trump tweeting that

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Speaker 17: he just had a wonderful conversation with the Mexican President.

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Speaker 17: This is a great news for it to, you know,

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Speaker 17: to start decreasing the massive plow grant.

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Speaker 2: All right, So it's amazing that this is working.

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Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't be somewhat surprised because President Trump

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Speaker 1: had had this working before. I know, the cartels we

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Speaker 1: have to go after. I'm going to give you some

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Speaker 1: home oscar because I heard an unbelievable story. We talked

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Speaker 1: about the cartels and drugs and the sex trafficking and

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Speaker 1: the child trafficking avocados. I had no idea the cartels

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Speaker 1: make millions off avocados, and so what I would like

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Speaker 1: to do is do a little homework on that for me,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do a segment about this avocado industry

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Speaker 1: and it's controlled by the cartels, which I have no

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Speaker 1: idea of, and what this means for Mexico and the

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Speaker 1: United States. So if you're up for it, buddy, let's

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Speaker 1: get you on later this week and talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about that.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, grand there's always an honor to be with you.

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Speaker 17: And yes, you know, the cartels control the central parts

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Speaker 17: of the country where the farmers are, you know, farming avocados,

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Speaker 17: and they you know, they basically take over these places

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Speaker 17: and they you know, basically extortion the Mexican people.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, that's a big story on.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Oscar Blue Vermire is always doing great work down there

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Speaker 1: for real America's voice in Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend, as always.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, coming up next, the Party of Love

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Speaker 1: and Hope is now showing.

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Speaker 2: Their final rooms. It's next.

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Speaker 1: So again, folks, Joe Biden could have saved himself a

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Speaker 1: giant headache if he just would have pardoned President Trump

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Speaker 1: along with Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't that smart to do that, because he

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Speaker 2: isn't that smart. You know.

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Speaker 1: Typically, Republicans have been losing the messaging game against Democrats

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I would say the last year

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Speaker 1: that totally turned around. Republicans are winning the messaging game

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Speaker 1: and I love it.

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Speaker 2: And I think maybe.

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Speaker 1: It's because they're finally listening not just to people like myself,

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Speaker 1: but people like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon and others

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Speaker 1: on this network and other networks that are smarter than

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Speaker 1: a lot of these Republican bureaucrats in charge. It's a

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Speaker 1: good thing that's gonna do it for us Tinfield's army rolls.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow night