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Speaker 2: reached out to a surprising team, you guys want to play?
Speaker 2: Which team would he be reaching out to play for
Speaker 2: next year? Todd, I'm going to start with you, the
Speaker 2: Tennessee Tennessee Titans, no.
Speaker 3: See no counter, the Los Angeles Rams of anahearm okay,
Speaker 3: no Marvin.
Speaker 4: The Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5: Okay, no Paul Oh, the Innapolis Colts, oh, the New
Speaker 5: York Giants.
Speaker 6: Don't have to move.
Speaker 3: I just moved here.
Speaker 7: I just bought that.
Speaker 3: I just got this place. I just you guys need
Speaker 3: somebody got a place at the Jersey Shore, Good and Blue.
Speaker 2: Rogers said that he seeks a good team that wants him.
Speaker 8: Neither in search of Yeah, Rogers prefers to play this,
Speaker 8: according to The New York Daily News, for the LA Rams,
Speaker 8: if they trade Matthew Stafford to the Giants, and then
Speaker 8: Rogers would then played for the Rams.
Speaker 7: Yes, todd for.
Speaker 9: Someone that pretends to not want a lot of attention
Speaker 9: LA and New York. Very interesting that you woul choose
Speaker 9: to your biggest markets.
Speaker 7: Well, he wants to play for a good team that
Speaker 7: wants you.
Speaker 4: And the Giants are so close.
Speaker 2: Why didn't need to stay in green Bay? Because green
Speaker 2: Bay didn't want him anymore? But Mike Florio reported that
Speaker 2: he heard the NFL combine Rodgers has reached out to
Speaker 2: the New York Giants. There's just certain stories where you
Speaker 2: kind of just want them to go away for a
Speaker 2: little while. Tush push, gotta go away, Aaron Rodgers, go
Speaker 2: away for a little while.
Speaker 7: You know, come back.
Speaker 2: If you're going to play, that's great, But they're just
Speaker 2: after a while You're just inundated with people trying to
Speaker 2: come up with new angles on the same topic. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any resolution to the Tush
Speaker 2: push or if Aaron Rodgers finds a team, does Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is it?
Speaker 7: Where does Stafford go? Now?
Speaker 2: How does that affect Aaron Rodgers? Could he go to
Speaker 2: the rams if Stafford doesn't go to the Raiders? You know,
Speaker 2: the report was that Stafford and Tom Brady in Montana
Speaker 2: on a ski slope and they ran into each other.
Speaker 2: What remains in doubt is was this a planned, planned
Speaker 2: meeting or was it random? Because this place that they
Speaker 2: both belonged to is a very very high end skiing
Speaker 2: resort and maybe they just ran into each other. But
Speaker 2: you had conflicting reports. You had Ian Rappaport of NFL
Speaker 2: Network who said it was random. Jordan Schultz of Fox
Speaker 2: he said that this was a meeting that took place.
Speaker 2: And then there was a meeting that took place between
Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz and a Rapaport at a Starbucks and Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: and apparently a guy heated enough that he in Rapaport
Speaker 2: then contacted NFL security on Jordan Schultz and Oh by
Speaker 2: the way. Jordan Schultz, dad is the CEO of Starbucks.
Speaker 4: Stuff movies are made, Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 7: I don't know. This is not a movie. Twenty for twenty,
Speaker 7: not a thirty for thirty.
Speaker 10: Five.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Paul, we almost had a Scrappa Chino.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, eh.
Speaker 2: We did reach out to Ean Rapaport and he said
Speaker 2: that he's gonna lay low and maybe join us tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It's not just a coffee that I heated.
Speaker 6: Who do you got in that fight?
Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz is a big dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 2: played football at Occidental.
Speaker 11: You've met them both, I have met both of them.
Speaker 11: Ian scrappy though, Yeah, you could go low leverage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Schultz good size. Yeah, if it came to that,
Speaker 2: but apparently it got heated for sixty seconds.
Speaker 6: Don't make me put down my latte.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would get mad if you said, hey, you
Speaker 2: want to go, well, let me finish my Chaiiti latte.
Speaker 11: Is there anything softer than not getting into a fight
Speaker 11: at Starbucks?
Speaker 6: Like a fight was almost about to happen, but it
Speaker 6: didn't happen.
Speaker 7: That it's at a starboys, yes, Ton.
Speaker 4: What is Starbucks security? Like?
Speaker 9: Is is the biggest barista have to get involved if
Speaker 9: a tussle was to break out of Starbucks.
Speaker 4: Was responsible for breaking that up?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's and there's always the guy in there with his
Speaker 2: computer and he's just sitting there and his computer is
Speaker 2: plugged in and he's just there, just gulping down coffees.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 7: More.
Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten almost to fisticuffs into fisticuffs with
Speaker 4: somebody in the media, well, like a heated argument or
Speaker 4: anything like that, like heated.
Speaker 2: Heated Yeah, Craig Seger, PAULI was there, Alex Rodriguez that
Speaker 2: that got heated.
Speaker 7: Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 2: It didn't get heated, which is good, But it was
Speaker 2: one of those situations where it's like, if you asked
Speaker 2: me one more question, this is going to end poorly
Speaker 2: for you. Uh So then I didn't.
Speaker 7: I put down my my my.
Speaker 2: Journalistic uh qualities, and I thought, you know, it's probably
Speaker 2: best that I don't ask Lawrence Taylor about cocaine use
Speaker 2: one more time. Probably I'm I'm going to stop, you know,
Speaker 2: I ask you twice and I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna do it again. And then a rod that one
Speaker 2: that was toe to toe and you know, what I
Speaker 2: if I got popped. I got popped, but I would
Speaker 2: have gotten in a swing or two if I had to.
Speaker 2: But that was silly. I mean, that was that. That
Speaker 2: that goes back to when Derek Jeter signed his contract
Speaker 2: and a Rod called up and we were taping the
Speaker 2: interview and I started talking to him about Jeter and
Speaker 2: then he got mad at me because we aired this.
Speaker 2: And then he does an interview with Esquire magazine and
Speaker 2: I think he was there Scott rab and he told
Speaker 2: him the same thing that he told me, but he
Speaker 2: so he reiterated that, and I'm thinking he didn't have
Speaker 2: a problem with me, and then I found out that
Speaker 2: through the Rangers pr that he did. But I did
Speaker 2: confront him. I wanted to go, you know, what's the deal?
Speaker 2: And uh, that one that one got heated, that one
Speaker 2: got heated. That was that was not good. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's that, you know, Seger. God loved Craig Sager
Speaker 2: though we're outside the Clevelander in Miami, and I had
Speaker 2: been on this rant about Heisman Trophy winners, that freshman
Speaker 2: should win it or a sophomore should win it, and
Speaker 2: it really was about Adrian Peterson and Sager was a
Speaker 2: Heisman voter I was at the time, and I said, hey,
Speaker 2: if I was voting Adrian Peterson, and Seger got upset
Speaker 2: with me over voting for somebody who's a freshman or sophomore,
Speaker 2: because I said, if you're the best player, you're the
Speaker 2: best player. I don't need you to wait till you're
Speaker 2: a junior or senior. So it got I don't know
Speaker 2: where it was going. It wasn't going to end well
Speaker 2: for either one of us. But I'd known Seger a
Speaker 2: long long time. But you know, he got heated, and
Speaker 2: then I got heated, and I just remember I put
Speaker 2: down my beer model and he put down his, and
Speaker 2: then PAULI was going to have to use his bouncer
Speaker 2: skills that we've talked about a lot on his program.
Speaker 11: It was weirdly awkward because there was other people watching
Speaker 11: who are casual sports fans who saw, hey, there's Dan
Speaker 11: Patrick and Craig Sager, and it started to get tense
Speaker 11: where there's like the little finger pointing to exclamate points. Yeah,
Speaker 11: it felt like it was going to get out of hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah it could have, and cooler heads prevailed with that,
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I've ever had anything else
Speaker 2: like the Lawrence Taylor thing. He was being suspended and
Speaker 2: he read a prepared statement for the print media at
Speaker 2: the Giants training camp facility. Well, I was working at
Speaker 2: CNN and I had my camera guy, and you know,
Speaker 2: we needed to have that story. We needed to have
Speaker 2: something on camera. So Lawrence comes out of the building
Speaker 2: and he was there with all the print media. When
Speaker 2: print media, you know, mattered. Now, he would have done
Speaker 2: something for TV and then print media would have said, hey,
Speaker 2: can we get a copy of that? But back then,
Speaker 2: Print Media New York, print media very powerful. And Lawrence
Speaker 2: came out. I remember he was dressed in dark blue
Speaker 2: or black, and he had these big sunglasses on and
Speaker 2: I said, excuse me, mister Taylor. Patrick's CNN and I
Speaker 2: wanted to know if he would read his prepared statement
Speaker 2: on camera. And then he said, talk to my agent,
Speaker 2: and I said I did. I spoke to your agent.
Speaker 2: And then he kept walking and then I said, Lawrence,
Speaker 2: will you read that prepared statement on camera? I won't
Speaker 2: ask any questions. And he looked at me and I
Speaker 2: could see the whites of his eyes through the sunglasses.
Speaker 2: And then I said to my cameraman and I said, Ricky,
Speaker 2: just keep rolling just.
Speaker 7: In case he hit me. He then jumped in.
Speaker 2: He had a like a giant's blue Porsche and he
Speaker 2: peeled out. And I remember Peter King of all people.
Speaker 2: He worked for New York Newsday newspaper.
Speaker 7: He came out, he goes, what did he say?
Speaker 12: You know?
Speaker 2: So Peter was being the reporter while I was trying
Speaker 2: to be a reporter to get Lawrence Taylor to tell
Speaker 2: me about that he had been busted for cocaine and
Speaker 2: he was going to be suspended. So Peter ended up
Speaker 2: writing a little bit about that. I could have had
Speaker 2: a career sack there. I could have gotten Lawrence Taylor
Speaker 2: could have He almost had another career sack as well.
Speaker 6: He's high on the list of last people I'd like
Speaker 6: to fight in the eighties.
Speaker 13: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Uh, well, I'd say Tyson is Nimero Uno. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: a one seater.
Speaker 7: Yes you can.
Speaker 2: I can still hear punches going to those fights. I
Speaker 2: can hear punches from Tyson. That's nineteen eighty six is
Speaker 2: the first year I met him. He was on the
Speaker 2: cover of Sports Illustrator. He was kid Dynamite and I
Speaker 2: went up to where Custamato lived, who was his manager
Speaker 2: who had passed away, and he was living up there
Speaker 2: with Cuss's wife. And I went to a couple of
Speaker 2: his fights, and damn, I don't know what happened to
Speaker 2: those guys, Like what kind of condition some of those
Speaker 2: guys are in now? But you can I can hear it.
Speaker 2: I could still hear a punch when he hit Michael Spinkx,
Speaker 2: when he hit Marvis Frasier, Damn, yes, Tom.
Speaker 9: And the inability of some of his opponents even remotely
Speaker 9: hide their fear about what they signed up for, but
Speaker 9: they didn't realize until they get in the ring. And
Speaker 9: Tyson would do that staring back and forth in your
Speaker 9: eyes while they're when they got them in the middle.
Speaker 2: There is no sporting event that has that drama because
Speaker 2: it's two guys going into a ring and you can't
Speaker 2: hide it gets there and when it's a legitimate, big
Speaker 2: time fight and you're just man. And I was very
Speaker 2: fortunate to be able to be around Sugar Ray Leonard,
Speaker 2: I mean, Alexis Argueo, Aaron Pryor like the middle weights,
Speaker 2: like they the guys who weren't they they they were
Speaker 2: awesome Hagler, Hearns, Vito Anna Fermo, like they were just
Speaker 2: there was always great fights back then, and they all
Speaker 2: meant something and to be able. And you're around Bob
Speaker 2: Aram and Don King. It's just I remember Don King
Speaker 2: tried to hit on a girl that I took to
Speaker 2: a boxing press conference. I had to tell him, I said, Don,
Speaker 2: she's with me, and he said, oh, man, America. I said, uh,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know he'd have the little flags that
Speaker 2: he would have, and I just remember he was hitting
Speaker 2: on this this girl and I had to tell yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm telling him. I'm like, hey, Don, she's with me,
Speaker 2: only in America. Walked out the door. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: When Mike Tyson was in his prime, was it still
Speaker 4: like the big deal to be the world heavyweight champion?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, so no matter who the heavyweight champion was, they
Speaker 4: automatically became world famous.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Yeah, Like Mary Holmes was a great fighter,
Speaker 2: but he kind of lacked any kind of style charisma.
Speaker 2: I think he owned all of eastern Pennsylvania, like downtown.
Speaker 2: I went to visit him. But you know, Larry was
Speaker 2: just a great, great boxer, had a great record, but
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of go to the fight and
Speaker 2: you go, okay. You know, you had Ali and Fraser,
Speaker 2: before that, you had George Foreman, I mean even Ken Norton,
Speaker 2: Jerry Cooney. You know there there was some gravitas that
Speaker 2: went with that title and and Tyson certain and Tyson
Speaker 2: acted like he was a heavyweight champ from the twenties.
Speaker 7: You know, you got.
Speaker 2: Dames on your arms and you're out party in and
Speaker 2: you're you know, he was kind of a Babe Ruth
Speaker 2: of boxing in the babe brute. Oh sorry, sorry, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 11: Also the timing of Tyson, it coincided with the timing
Speaker 11: of the rise of ESPN, and so that could be
Speaker 11: were coverage to it, and his fights, his early fights
Speaker 11: were all on CBS. You could just access those first
Speaker 11: maybe fifteen or twenty fights he fought monthly. And then
Speaker 11: it also coincided with the upswinging rap and rappers used
Speaker 11: to check him, put his name in their songs, and
Speaker 11: it all became a thing. He became honestly the most
Speaker 11: famous person in America.
Speaker 2: And then he married Robin Gibbons. Yeah, it was it
Speaker 2: was a wild ride. Uh but you know, Mike was
Speaker 2: so raw. He just loved his pigeons. He won't show
Speaker 2: me his pigeons. The only thing you get him to
Speaker 2: talk about is the history of the sport. He knew
Speaker 2: the history of the sport and his pigeons.
Speaker 7: That was it.
Speaker 2: And he you know, that soft voice, and he would
Speaker 2: ask me if I wanted to see his pigeons. How
Speaker 2: do you think it sounded, Todd?
Speaker 9: I want to talk about my boxing career. Everybody wants
Speaker 9: to talk about my box. Then I just want to
Speaker 9: talk about this pigeon collection. And I remember growing up,
Speaker 9: someone killed my pigeon. He stepped on my pigeon's head.
Speaker 9: And now with the end of that, because they thought
Speaker 9: I with the pushover and I showed there. But with
Speaker 9: friends like that, who needs enemies?
Speaker 4: Right there?
Speaker 7: Maybe a little too long there that, Yeah, maybe maybe?
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. I don't know
Speaker 2: what we just accomplished, if anything there, but we'll take away,
Speaker 2: we'll regroup and maybe we'll have a better direction to
Speaker 2: go in the final forty minutes of this program. All right,
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Speaker 2: We haven't played dour Rankings in a while, and it's
Speaker 2: a you know, a very detailed game that we play
Speaker 2: Dower rankings any sport.
Speaker 7: You know, what are you dour on?
Speaker 2: So it can be a player, it can be a team,
Speaker 2: It could be a rule a concept. What are you
Speaker 2: or who are you dowur on? Paul, why don't you
Speaker 2: set the example here?
Speaker 6: Glad to Dan. This is the second time they've appeared
Speaker 6: on my list.
Speaker 11: The Philadelphia seventy six Yay, that's who I had. Yeah,
Speaker 11: we made to take him off the board at this juncture.
Speaker 11: They lost nine in a row and they weren't good
Speaker 11: before that. They're twenty and thirty eight. Their two best
Speaker 11: players are hurt and really hurt. One of them got
Speaker 11: criticized for hosting a podcast like he's not focused on
Speaker 11: basketball because he's talking for forty five minutes a week
Speaker 11: and stop the podcast which is even softer Paul George.
Speaker 11: This is a team that had fifty four wins last
Speaker 11: year and was always a threat in the postseason. The
Speaker 11: seventy six ers are bad and getting worse, and there's
Speaker 11: no hope inside.
Speaker 2: I think the seventy six ers still owe Joe Ellenbiid
Speaker 2: and Playoff p four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6: I may have undersold it.
Speaker 7: I think it's four.
Speaker 2: Hundred and five million dollars that they owe these guys.
Speaker 2: Sh they could be bad without paying those guys four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars.
Speaker 7: Todd Dower rank I'm.
Speaker 9: DOWA on the NFL rule book because I'm sick every
Speaker 9: year something pops up where we've got to reanalyze or
Speaker 9: rephrase something. I'm all for moving forward with technology and
Speaker 9: things like that and trying to make the game better,
Speaker 9: but for constantly having to reanalyze things that are going
Speaker 9: on on the field. There's something wrong, then we need
Speaker 9: to really do better at whoever's putting the.
Speaker 7: Rule invent but we need change.
Speaker 2: The rule book is about change, not you know, the
Speaker 2: NFL from the sixties.
Speaker 9: It's just too much to me. Every year it's like, well,
Speaker 9: these seven things we need to reconfigure. It didn't work
Speaker 9: it out, or these three are good, these two need
Speaker 9: to be tweaked. You constantly have to tweak things that much.
Speaker 9: Then do better at the phraseology or at putting their.
Speaker 7: R Well, the yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the language that they keep adding, like it's
Speaker 2: lawyers who are adding language to this. They don't subtract language,
Speaker 2: they add yes.
Speaker 4: See. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There aren't many sports that are constantly reinventing the rules
Speaker 3: season after season, like the NFL does. They seem to
Speaker 3: be the only sport that really it is constantly like
Speaker 3: well do we want to do this or do we
Speaker 3: want to do that? That the game is always changing, But.
Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt the sport. It gives them constant exposure.
Speaker 7: It does it.
Speaker 3: It does sort of hurt the sport though, in that
Speaker 3: people are constantly wondering about the fairness of it or
Speaker 3: the I mean the fact that we're constantly talking about
Speaker 3: and like refereeing decisions and was this a catch? Was
Speaker 3: this not? I get the whole idea, like, hey, we're
Speaker 3: talking about it, so I means it's a good thing.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 3: But you're also talking about the integrity of the sport,
Speaker 3: and it it The more that it keeps getting tweaked,
Speaker 3: the more you keep talking about it, the more dumb
Speaker 3: the sport becomes.
Speaker 2: Well, we can talk about the integrity you know, gambling,
Speaker 2: how good are the official those kind of things, but
Speaker 2: Todd's talking about the rule book with all the other
Speaker 2: things that they, you know, discuss, they add make it
Speaker 2: more complicated. That's the problem that I have, all right,
Speaker 2: but what is a catch is part of that rule book.
Speaker 2: But that's something we see. The NFL doesn't get hurt
Speaker 2: by it. I mean, it's it's they've never been more popular.
Speaker 2: I if you have a situation where an official is compromised,
Speaker 2: that's when you can do damage to the sport. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's impenetrable. It feels like, So I don't it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if we're going is that a catch?
Speaker 7: Why do we have to have it?
Speaker 2: As we still watch, we still gamble, we still do fantasy.
Speaker 7: So I don't. I don't think the NFL can.
Speaker 2: I think the NFL the other sports would love if
Speaker 2: you're talking about them in any way. The NFL, it
Speaker 2: just feels like they can do no wrong. Marvin Dower,
Speaker 2: I'm Dower on the NFL draft prospects. It doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of star power in this year's
Speaker 2: draft like there has been for previous years. So I'm
Speaker 2: dower on the star potential of some of these players.
Speaker 7: Okay, right, Seaton Dower.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, I was looking at the seventy six ers
Speaker 3: for sure. I'm dower on the idea of an NIL cap.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So this hasn't been put into law yet,
Speaker 2: but I think there's gonna be a a cap for
Speaker 2: nil or money available for players, at maybe twenty one
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars for each university.
Speaker 7: So every sport comes out of that.
Speaker 2: Football will probably take sixteen million, seventeen million, depending on
Speaker 2: the you know, the the school and how good the
Speaker 2: basketball team is. But I think what's going to happen is, yes,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a salary cap, but I don't
Speaker 2: think you can take away somebody's nil if you're going
Speaker 2: to pay them, I should still be able to capitalize
Speaker 2: on my name, image and likeness. This is my ability
Speaker 2: that you're paying me for, not my name, image and likeness,
Speaker 2: or at least I wouldn't think that seems like that,
Speaker 2: would you know?
Speaker 7: You could argue that also.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to get back to if that's
Speaker 2: the case, we cap you no matter what you do, name,
Speaker 2: image and likeness, which I don't know how they mod
Speaker 2: What if somebody gets a five million dollar.
Speaker 7: Gatorade deal like Cooper flag.
Speaker 2: You know, are you taking that out of the twenty
Speaker 2: one and a half million dollars because Gatorade is paying you?
Speaker 2: I think you're going to get back to illegal recruiting.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to get back to payments under
Speaker 2: the table. If there's a salary camp, I it's not
Speaker 2: going to stop boosters from or collectives from getting somebody
Speaker 2: and giving somebody something extra. It's gonna happen. It happened
Speaker 2: before when it was illegal to do it. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know they're going to do it again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulling.
Speaker 6: Here's an example.
Speaker 11: Imagine you had a cap at usc like everybody else
Speaker 11: has at T one T two million, and you spend
Speaker 11: the lion's share on football and other sports. Then you
Speaker 11: have this out of nowhere athlete like Juju Watkins. I
Speaker 11: start her in a State Farm commercial the other day
Speaker 11: State Farm.
Speaker 6: That's no joke.
Speaker 11: So can she accept a certain amount from State Farm
Speaker 11: so you don't go over the overall cap for the
Speaker 11: athletic program? How would that that wouldn't be fair to her?
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that the has gotten itself this
Speaker 2: deep into something that they didn't have to get this
Speaker 2: deep into is amazing. And then to see them now go, hey,
Speaker 2: how do we fix all of this stuff that we
Speaker 2: made mistakes on? How about a salary cap that'll do it.
Speaker 2: Twenty one and a half million dollars for each school. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's going to be illegal benefits here. It's going to continue,
Speaker 2: but I find that interesting.
Speaker 4: Also.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw in spring training the
Speaker 2: Brewers played a doubleheader in the Cactus League on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: They faced the Dodgers and then they face the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: During their game against the Dodgers, Milwaukee decided to give
Speaker 2: an opportunity to a prospect who might have the best
Speaker 2: name in all the sports. He's seventeen years of age.
Speaker 7: His name is.
Speaker 2: Jesus Made. Jesus Made m a d E. I think
Speaker 2: he pronounces it Haesus, but you look at the spelling,
Speaker 2: you know it's Jesus Made. He's the seventeenth best prospect
Speaker 2: in the Baseball America's Top one hundred list, so look
Speaker 2: forward to seeing him get some playing time there.
Speaker 11: Yes, poem, I don't know if he's a pitcher or not,
Speaker 11: but imagine going back to the dugout and saying, I
Speaker 11: just got whiffed by Jesus.
Speaker 6: You really can't.
Speaker 2: That was stacked against Jesus. Jesus, Jesus made the Brewers.
Speaker 2: All right, let me see Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Hey Dan, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 12: You know a quick deal about the NFL. But with
Speaker 12: the news of Gene Hackman, it reminds me of a
Speaker 12: fourth grade report that I had to do with famous
Speaker 12: people that had the same birthday as me, and Gene
Speaker 12: Hackman was one of mine. Now, it's not as cool
Speaker 12: as having, you know, the same day, same year as
Speaker 12: some Dan, as you might know, but I've always felt
Speaker 12: an affinity for Gene Hackman because we shared the same
Speaker 12: birth Fasis had to hear him I was passing. Yeah,
Speaker 12: So I can tell there's a little bit of we've
Speaker 12: reached our brim of tolerance when it comes to the
Speaker 12: tush push, and I think rightfully. So here's the thing.
Speaker 12: As a fan, it's really frustrating that this has been
Speaker 12: the conversation because when we left the playoffs, I felt
Speaker 12: like the predominant discussion when it came to rule changes
Speaker 12: was going to be how are we going to address
Speaker 12: all these quarterbacks that are taking advantage of the slide rule,
Speaker 12: the out of bounds rule, and it feels like that's
Speaker 12: just been brushed aside. Is there any hope of that
Speaker 12: being addressed, because I think the fans really want that
Speaker 12: more than a play that one team has really kind
Speaker 12: of mastered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a bigger deal, But it just
Speaker 2: feels like the Eagles won the tush push. It's not fair,
Speaker 2: it's not stoppable, and therefore that seems to be on
Speaker 2: the front burner. I think these quarterbacks who were kind
Speaker 2: of flirt with the rule of sliding, not sliding, going
Speaker 2: out of bounds, not going out of bounds and kind
Speaker 2: of rubbing defense's faces in this. And it's not just
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, there are other quarterbacks as well.
Speaker 7: I would hope.
Speaker 2: That they look at that, and I think you got
Speaker 2: to let's start with safety. You have to say to
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, we have protected you, but you're going to
Speaker 2: get into a gray area where we can't protect you
Speaker 2: or protect you the way you think you should be protected.
Speaker 2: If you're going to slide, makes you slide early. If
Speaker 2: you're going to go out of bounce, make sure you
Speaker 2: go out of bounds but if you're going to flirt
Speaker 2: with kind of altering this, you're on your own. You're
Speaker 2: going to be treated like a runner, and if you
Speaker 2: get hit, get blown up. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: I do think that's a bigger issue than the tush push.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm on repeat with everything I think
Speaker 2: about that. Play fine with it. Take the guy out
Speaker 2: from behind, Jalen Hurts. Let it be a quarterback sneak.
Speaker 2: They're still going to be very, very, very successful.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Pauling, Well, I think your point from the other
Speaker 11: day was if a lesser team that the Titans did
Speaker 11: this and did it well, it'd be easy to remove.
Speaker 11: But it wouldn't bother anybody because nobody's watching the Titans.
Speaker 11: Because the Eagles are so successful and winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 11: The timing of it seems pejorative against them.
Speaker 7: Whoa is that? That's a mcloven word, Pajeorde, Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: he was a big pejority.
Speaker 6: Did I use that right?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Ella dizzy, it's a fad a compleae
Speaker 3: loading proud of me, Tim in Ohio, Hi, Tim, thanks
Speaker 3: for holding What do you have for me?
Speaker 10: Hey? Dan, I'm gonna go Saturs the day here The
Speaker 10: Candlers about thirty two games by an average eleven point
Speaker 10: sixty nine points, which would be the fourth highest average
Speaker 10: margins in victory and NBA history. According to Stadheads, the
Speaker 10: only teased to finish the season from a higher average
Speaker 10: margin seventy two Lakers seventy one Bucks in the ninety
Speaker 10: six pots. They all want NBA titles.
Speaker 7: Stat of the day, stat of the day, stat of
Speaker 7: the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 4: Here comes that?
Speaker 7: What stat of the day?
Speaker 2: John Lynch, the GM for the forty nine ers, was
Speaker 2: at the combine talking about Rock Perty's contract talks and
Speaker 2: seems like they're going all in on brock Party.
Speaker 15: I won't go into negotiations like always is our stance.
Speaker 15: Want brought to be our quarterback as long as we're
Speaker 15: here and beyond, and we'll leave it at that. I
Speaker 15: think the final thing, there's no guarantees that we get
Speaker 15: something done, but my experience has been when both sides
Speaker 15: are motivated, there's ample opportunity to do so, and we've
Speaker 15: been able to do that.
Speaker 2: So imagine, if you're a GM and a coach Trey
Speaker 2: Lance could get you fired, Rock Party keeps you in
Speaker 2: your job, So you go all in on Trey Lance,
Speaker 2: who was just released by the Cowboys. You give up
Speaker 2: three first round picks and you know, really mortgage part
Speaker 2: of the future of your team, and then you get
Speaker 2: rock Perty, mister irrelevant, and then your genius. So on
Speaker 2: one hand, you're like, but that's really assessing quarterbacks when
Speaker 2: you think about it, and you could talk about what
Speaker 2: COVID did to scouting and really trying to handicap somebody
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty and how often are you able
Speaker 2: to see them or whatever in person.
Speaker 7: But still that's a big whiff.
Speaker 2: That's one of the bigger whiffs that we've had with
Speaker 2: you know, Lynch and Shanahan, and then Trey Lance can't play.
Speaker 2: You know one he was one year at North Dakota
Speaker 2: State and he was wonderful, didn't lose a game. I
Speaker 2: don't think he threw an interception. But you still you
Speaker 2: went all in on him. It's not like you drafted
Speaker 2: him in the first round. You went to get him
Speaker 2: in the first round. And then brock Perdy mister irrelevant.
Speaker 2: And I truly believe if brock Perty was a third
Speaker 2: round draft pick, I don't know if people would have
Speaker 2: a problem if he was going to make the money
Speaker 2: that he is scheduled to make. He's the last guy taken.
Speaker 2: How good can he be? Well, he was a very
Speaker 2: good college quarterback and for whatever reason was you know,
Speaker 2: look at Tom Brady where he was drafted, or Trell
Speaker 2: Davis where he was drafted. Teams make mistakes and Brock
Speaker 2: Perty if he's a third or fourth round draft pick.
Speaker 2: You know, if he's a Russell Wilson or Dak Prescott,
Speaker 2: I don't think we go I mean, we don't hold
Speaker 2: that against Dak Prescott anymore.
Speaker 7: Or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I think with brock Perty, it's the perception that he's
Speaker 2: not that good is because he's the last player drafted.
Speaker 2: There have been a few quarterbacks down through history who
Speaker 2: didn't get drafted or they got drafted late, and they,
Speaker 2: you know, proved to be Hall of famers, you know,
Speaker 2: Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr. But you know that's back when
Speaker 2: it was kind of scouting was archaic. But Brock Purty's
Speaker 2: gonna get paid now, and they're gonna trade Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 2: I never would have signed up Brandon Ayuk. I would
Speaker 2: have traded him. I wouldn't have paid him thirty million dollars,
Speaker 2: George Kettle, how much time do you have left? I mean,
Speaker 2: they're really at a crossroads here.
Speaker 7: And you know you.
Speaker 2: Got that benefit with brock Purty with his salary. Now
Speaker 2: you don't. So now you got to make some really
Speaker 2: good draft decisions. You got to be like Philadelphia. You
Speaker 2: got to be like Baltimore. You got to be like Detroit.
Speaker 2: You have less money. Now you've got to make some
Speaker 2: really really good decisions. Now we're going to find out
Speaker 2: just how good John Lynch is and Kyle Shanahan Yeampoll.
Speaker 11: Based off next man up at the quarterback position, Rock
Speaker 11: Purty should get at least five years, two hundred and
Speaker 11: seventy five million at fifty five million season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what Joe Burrow got. Hard to pick.
Speaker 11: For a good quarterback. Oh man, when you hear the number,
Speaker 11: it doesn't match.
Speaker 2: If you could have Matthew Stafford the next two years
Speaker 2: or Brock Purty the next two years, how about Stafford
Speaker 2: for two rock party for five. I like brock Purdy,
Speaker 2: but I don't I don't think brock Purdy. I think
Speaker 2: he's good at what he's supposed to be good. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. But I'm not paying him, So I like
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy. I don't love him, Marvin, that's your team.
Speaker 2: Do you love rock Perdy?
Speaker 4: Not for fifty five million, but it's the rate though.
Speaker 2: I know Seaton of course was all in on b
Speaker 2: October when he was at Iowa State, you know.
Speaker 3: Early adopter there. Yeah, it's funny how Matthew Stafford's lack
Speaker 3: of accomplishments has been completely.
Speaker 7: Erased when he was in Detroit.
Speaker 3: When he was in Detroit, yeah, and I mean, I
Speaker 3: know he had a great year with the Rams, I
Speaker 3: get that, and he had good years with Detroit, but
Speaker 3: he was the classic can't get over the hump guy
Speaker 3: forever forever.
Speaker 7: But we saw him with talent and he won the
Speaker 7: super Bowl.
Speaker 3: It's funny, how too, that the Matthew Stafford like when
Speaker 3: he was with Detroit, they couldn't put a good team
Speaker 3: around him, so he had to leave. And now Detroit
Speaker 3: what they really are is one quarterback like Matthew Stafford
Speaker 3: away from getting to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I just want to see what happens if Brock perty
Speaker 2: is capable of being that guy that you can load
Speaker 2: up and say, go out and win games. I think
Speaker 2: that's what everybody's waiting to see with less talent, because
Speaker 2: if you don't have Debo and George Kittle at the
Speaker 2: end of his career offensive line, you're losing a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame tackle. You got some aging guys on defense
Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 2: App The last call for phone calls, what we learn,
Speaker 2: what's in store tomorrow. By the way, we taped two
Speaker 2: interviews Sonny vc Caro. He is largely responsible for signing
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan at Niking. He also signed Kobe at Adidas.
Speaker 2: Thought he had Lebron James and he has written a book.
Speaker 2: He's now eighty five years of age, and I was
Speaker 2: thinking about this that he should be in the Basketball
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame as a contributor. And I'm wondering if
Speaker 2: some of the coaches that he helped, Michael Jordan and
Speaker 2: some of the players, if they wrote letters to the
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame on behalf of Sonny vc Carrol.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Sonny vc Carol, and I did
Speaker 2: ask him the question if Michael didn't go to Nike.
Speaker 2: What would have happened to Mike's shoe career and Nike's
Speaker 2: more importantly, So that'll be And Woody Harrelson got a movie.
Speaker 2: It comes out tomorrow, Last Breath, so we'll talk to
Speaker 2: the woodman. I just got a text message here and
Speaker 2: it is directed at Marvin. Please yet, let young school
Speaker 2: Marvin know old school is right. I would personally fly
Speaker 2: back to Indiana to set up a first class tour
Speaker 2: of the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame and taking to
Speaker 2: Newcastle Field House, the largest gym in the world, and
Speaker 2: also Hinkle Field House, home of the Mylon Shot Assembly
Speaker 2: Hall in Bloomington Mylon High School gym where the movie
Speaker 2: was shot. You haven't lived yet. Side note, tell Marvin
Speaker 2: I would drop fifty on him back in the day
Speaker 2: in front of ten thousand in Newcastle. No three point
Speaker 2: line there either. Old school can't beat it. Signed Steve Alford.
Speaker 6: A wow, emotional.
Speaker 4: I'm taking that. It's the biggest compliment. I am in.
Speaker 4: I am in.
Speaker 6: That's like the Pope asked you to come to the Vatican.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Steve Alford will be your tour guide and
Speaker 2: he'll drop fifty on you back in the day. You
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the only guy that he probably dropped. Imagine
Speaker 2: being that good of an outside shooter. And there was
Speaker 2: no three point shot back then. Yeah, alrighty, they had
Speaker 2: it in college late, wasn't that when they played un
Speaker 2: l V and they beat u n LV kind of
Speaker 2: at their game up tempo and Alford uh had a
Speaker 2: big night making some threes there, I believe.
Speaker 11: And they beat Syracuse in the title game. And Steve
Speaker 11: Alford when he got to Indiana, the three point line
Speaker 11: was only for his senior year. Yeah, and of course
Speaker 11: he this is unbelievable. He shot fifty three from three.
Speaker 2: Keith Smart hits the jumper. Yep, yeah, that was that
Speaker 2: was a good game. Alrighty.
Speaker 7: Let me see, how about this day in sports history?
Speaker 11: Paul hold on, I'm still soaking in Steve Alford's day,
Speaker 11: so jealous.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Nets had sixty one to three
Speaker 2: point attempts last night and they're lost to the Thunder.
Speaker 2: I still would love to cap the three point shots
Speaker 2: at thirty. Each team gets thirty use them accordingly, Okay, Paul.
Speaker 6: Let's see.
Speaker 11: Oh, the NCAA in nineteen eighty seven gave the death
Speaker 11: penalty to SMU football. They're back now, Yeah, they are.
Speaker 11: Emma Smith in two thousand and three became a free agent.
Speaker 11: Then he went to the Cardinals and oh this is awkward.
Speaker 11: Two thousand and two, the Houston Astros announced they would
Speaker 11: strike a deal with Enron to buy back the naming rights,
Speaker 11: and he went by Astros field for a while.
Speaker 2: Nineteen fifty nine, Bob Cousy since an NBA record twenty
Speaker 2: eight assists as the Cell Takes beat the Lakers. Twenty
Speaker 2: eight assists for Bob Coosey. He's a magician out there.
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks to make him go left tops. We've never
Speaker 2: seen anything like Bob Cousy. He's a whirling dervish.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's going against plumbers and electricians. He's got twenty eight,
Speaker 2: says Todd. What did you are you gonna watch Hoosiers?
Speaker 2: By the way, Marvin, I am this week? Okay, Todd?
Speaker 2: Would you learn today you.
Speaker 9: Are totally pushed out and that's why you didn't ask
Speaker 9: Albert Brier about the toush push play.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just like sometimes I gotta take a little
Speaker 7: time away from it. Seatan. Would you learn who's he's
Speaker 7: mad as a hatter? Marvin? What did you learn I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna hang out with Steve Offerd to Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yes, he could give you some shooting tips. Paulie, would
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