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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and this is Dania Jones. Three six two.

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Speaker 1: The ends of Jones keeps. It goes off in the middle,

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Speaker 1: but no end zone. It's a phenomenal job, all right. Buck.

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Speaker 1: For those that are just checking out the three sixty series,

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Speaker 1: maybe they've missed some of the other ones we've already

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Speaker 1: popped out. Their shame on you, first of all. But

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Speaker 1: for those that aren't familiar with the three sixties series,

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Speaker 1: tell him what the three sixty series is all about

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Speaker 1: and what we have coming up here with Daniel Jones today.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear from his parents, his sister who also

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Speaker 1: was a college athlete, his high school and college coaches,

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Speaker 1: and of course from the Blue Devil's quarterback Danues Jones.

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Speaker 1: I gotta love these three sixties. Get a chance to

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Speaker 1: do a little bit of a deeper dive on an

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Speaker 1: individual player, and look, you get a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: with Daniel was great, But it's it's what we get

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Speaker 1: from the people around him that know him best. When

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Speaker 1: the scouting side. That goes back to our time as

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Speaker 1: NFL scouts, digging a little bit deeper, not just watching

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Speaker 1: the tape, trying to learn about the person, not just

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Speaker 1: a player. Yeah, the background information is certainly important. We

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Speaker 1: we can always figure out what a god does on tape,

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Speaker 1: but really he is trying to figure out if he

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Speaker 1: you look for? And so these three sixties are fascinating,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about a duke quarterback that has

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Speaker 1: overcome to things that Daniel has overcome. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 1: look at him as a player. Um, you know things

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Speaker 1: to like about Daniel Jones. Let's start first of all

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Speaker 1: with the size, the athletic ability, the intelligence, the character.

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Speaker 1: All those things are exceptional, exactly what you want from

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Speaker 1: the position. Now, does he have a huge power arm? No,

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Speaker 1: I do think he possesses enough arm to make all

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Speaker 1: to his pro day, man, it was an exceptional day

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Speaker 1: for him. He really spun the ball well, showed that

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Speaker 1: evaluation is what he played with. And he loved the

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Speaker 1: coach there in David Cutcliffe. But Bucky has not played

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Speaker 1: with a draftable player. The last guys we drafted there

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Speaker 1: some of the things that we like to see from quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: how do they handle adversity? How did they handle situations

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Speaker 1: where they don't have everything lined up form? With Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: we see that, we see that play out on tape.

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Speaker 1: You talked about him being smart, tough. I think he's efficient, solid,

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Speaker 1: And so somewhere in between Smith and Tannehill, I believe

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Speaker 1: To me, Matt Ryan, here's the snap to Ryan, Matt

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Speaker 1: let's learn about him as a person. And who better

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Speaker 1: to talk to his parents? Well, Buck, as our own

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Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Me and Bucky've done our

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Speaker 1: the concrete. Uh, it's it's it's happened, it's happened before. No.

428
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: But he's typically a pretty even keel. He keeps a

429
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: cool head. But I've seen him. I've seen him throw

430
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, an l in the stomach of of some

431
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: kid or you know. See, that's what I'm talking about.

432
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, Becca, It's the elbows to

433
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: the stomach. That's the stuff that I'm looking for. Now,

434
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: he's he's got it. He's definitely got it, you know.

435
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: So and thinking about that, Um, A lot of times

436
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: when people on the outside looking at Daniel, they worry

437
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: about the quiet demeanor as he saw spoken. So when

438
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about his competitiveness, how does that kind of

439
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: come out and manifest itself despite the choirt demeanored it.

440
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of his outward appearance. Yeah, I mean, that's

441
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, to me, it always

442
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: I've always seen it as you know, who comes out

443
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: in the end on on the winning side of things,

444
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: and that, you know, nine times out of ten is Daniel.

445
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: Like I've seen him. You know, it's a why basketball

446
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: game for eight year olds and he's just like, you

447
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna crank this three from you know,

448
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over this situation. And I think he's

449
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: always kind of had that mentality like when it's time,

450
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: it's it's time to step up and you know, it

451
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: has to be me sometimes and I think he does

452
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: a good job of I've always seen him. You know,

453
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: he's a teammate, but he understands, you know, when I'm

454
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: when I'm the best player in in a given situation,

455
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: it's time to it's time to step up and make plays.

456
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: And I think, um, I've always seen him do that,

457
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: whether it was you know, lacrosse, you know, football, basketball,

458
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: anything he decided to play. That's phenomenal. Last question then

459
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. We appreciate your time here today, Becca,

460
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: But um, you know, Bucky being a North Carolina guy,

461
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Daniel being a Duke guy. You're from, Davidson, I went

462
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: to Appalachian State. I feel like we have the whole

463
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: state covered here, So but I need an honest answer

464
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: from you. Um, the best athletic program in the state

465
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: of North Carolina is who oh wow. But he said

466
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: that's easy, by the easy. Come on, come on, come on,

467
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's got to be Davidson. I'm talking about.

468
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about doing my cat. That's it.

469
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: That's right. I can't can't straight from the cat staying loyal.

470
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: I see. That's what I like about this Jones family.

471
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Everything nicely done. Becca. Hey, are you gonna be able

472
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: to to go to the draft? Yeah, I'm planning on it.

473
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: We're excited. That's gonna be fun. We look forward to

474
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: h seeing you out there in Nashville. It's gonna be

475
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: a fun, fun celebration of a lot of hard work

476
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: paying off there for your brother. So thank you so

477
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: much for spending some time with us today, and we'll

478
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: see out there in Nashville, all right. Sounds good. Thanks guys, buck.

479
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I love her personality. I just I hope she doesn't

480
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: go into TV, stay stay in the business side of things,

481
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: because there's only so many of these jobs to go

482
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: around force here. I love her personality. That was fun talk.

483
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: You have fun conversation and she shares some light on uh.

484
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: I guess Daniels stick tuitiveness in terms of his willingness.

485
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: He will not let it go if he's taken it.

486
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, he is determined that he's going to win

487
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And I think that

488
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: speaks volumes about how he's wired and it's one of

489
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: the reasons why you can see teams falling in love

490
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: with him as a potential franchise quarterback. And she spoke

491
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: about some of those epic battles they're on the basketball

492
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: court there at the Jones household. I'd like to be

493
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall and uh and see some

494
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: of those take place. I know any of us with

495
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: siblings play sports, we all have those stories. Fun to

496
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: hear those. They're from the Jones family. All right, let's

497
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: go back to the to the high school days here

498
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones. There at at Charlotte Latin School in

499
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Thankfully you and Rhett had a chance to

500
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: catch up with the headman there, Larry McNulty. All right, coach,

501
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: great to have you here with us. Look, you know,

502
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your resume here. Eleven state championships in

503
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: if my math is correct, thirty two years, you're basically

504
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: winning a state title once every three years. I was

505
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: actually twelve, but that's okay, My goodness. Congratulations on a

506
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: terrific career. I know you were retired as the head

507
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: coach at Charlotte Latin after the seventeen season, which means

508
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: you had a chance to to get Daniel Jones for

509
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: his entire high school career. And uh, you know, Bucky

510
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: and I were just looking here and we saw that

511
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: you used to call him swag. Is that right? I

512
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: still call him Swag. I called him Swag at his

513
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: pro day on Tuesday and he snapped around. He knew

514
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: exactly I called him swag since he was in about

515
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: ninth grade. And why's that? Why did that come to? Well?

516
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: He just had this. You know, he's not a boyster,

517
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: so he's not an outgoing uh ra ra yell and

518
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: scream Johnny Mins l kind of quarterback. He leads with

519
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: a unique quiet confidence, and he just had this air

520
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: about him, and all the coaches and all the kids

521
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: were like, coach or something special about young Daniel. And

522
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: I'll get back to what he looks like when he

523
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: first got going. But I said, you know, he's he's

524
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: got swag, and everybody went, you know, that's what it is.

525
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: He's got swag, And pretty soon everybody on campus was

526
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: called him. So that's it. He swagged. That's funny, coach, Um,

527
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, And I think you speak about something that

528
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: I guess scals always curious about because he is so

529
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: understated in his demeanor. Um, you wanted to Canny be

530
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: a guy that commands the room. How is he as

531
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: a leader for you and your team? Well, let me

532
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: I'll even back up a little bit from that question

533
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and tell you that I don't think there's a person

534
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: at our school, including football players, teachers, administrators, the coaching staff,

535
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't hold Daniel Jones at the highest level of respect.

536
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: And the kids on our football team would absolutely go

537
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: through a fire for that kid. And I run into

538
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: those guys around town all the time, and they're going,

539
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: like coach Daniel Jones was awesome. He's the man. He

540
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: was our He was a guy that fueled us. Now,

541
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: he didn't stand up in front of everybody and wave

542
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: a banner and a pom pom all the time, but

543
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, when he hit the practice hill, it was

544
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: all business. And and he was one of those kind

545
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: of guys that would would rally the kids around him.

546
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: And I talked to some of the Duke players when

547
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: I was up at a pro day and they said

548
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: the same thing. They said, you know, we love Daniel Jones.

549
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, he's as great off the field as

550
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: he is on. Well, I think, uh, I think a

551
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: little bit of his story certainly speaks to that coach

552
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of ending up at at Duke after a kind

553
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: of a quiet recruitment and then you know, going from

554
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a walk onto becoming a two time captain and in

555
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback at Duke. It takes an ability to

556
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: endear yourself to that team to uh, to be able

557
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: to jump in and become that kind of leader in

558
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: that kind of face of the program, if you will,

559
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: all right, And it wasn't too much different at latin

560
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Um when he was a sophomore and we started camp.

561
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: He was not slated to be the number one quarterback.

562
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: He was five eleven. Now, yeah, I used to teasing

563
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: he had to run around the shower to get wet.

564
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: He was so skinny and uh uh no fall of

565
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: his own. Within the second game of the season, he

566
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: ends up being our starter, and we weren't great, but

567
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: we were okay. But in about the sixth game of

568
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: the year, we went over and played Charlotte Christian who's

569
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: one of our biggest rivals. They had a kid by

570
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: name of Jeff Blazevich who went on to Georgia to

571
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: start as a tight end for them over there, and

572
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: he might be in the NFL still. I think he

573
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: had a shot. And Jeff was a defensive end and

574
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: he got a clean run at Daniel Jones at five eleven,

575
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: and he launched him about five ft in the year

576
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: and he landed in a heap. He finally struggled over

577
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: the sideline and his helmet sideways. He's looking through his

578
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: ear hole. The face matches busted, and I'm fearful he

579
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: can't even play. I thought he was done for the

580
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: night and said, Daniel, are you all right? He goes, coach,

581
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: get me a damn helmet and get me back out there,

582
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: and he missed one play and I turned to one

583
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: of my assistant coaches and I said, dude, we got

584
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: something here. This kid's got this kid's got it, and

585
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: he's hard as nails, and uh, that kind of personality

586
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: just makes other people want to play for you and

587
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: with you. You know, coach, you talk about his toughness

588
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: and his courage in terms of being able to get

589
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: back from that situation. What does he like in critical

590
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: moments when the game is on the line and you

591
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: have to hand the ball and say, Dan, you go

592
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: make him play? How did he respond in those situations? Well,

593
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: we never had a lot of problem with him in

594
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: any regard, Uh, in tough situations. We he played in

595
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: quite a few big games for us, and really some

596
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: of his best performances we're in the big games. And

597
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I know in one instance, we were playing at the

598
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: States semi final and the team did a really good

599
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: job of defending our passing game and we just say, hey,

600
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: let's go to the zone. Run And how he rushed

601
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: for like a hunter and sixty yards and just decided

602
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: he was going to take over running the ball. He's

603
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: a much more adequate runner than people give him credit for.

604
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's not super quick feet, but once he

605
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: gets rolling, he's pretty good. So to answer a question, Uh,

606
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: he always responded well for us in pressure. And I

607
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: know he played on the basketball team and every night

608
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: they put him on the other teams best player because

609
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: he was such a tenacious guy down the stretch and

610
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: he usually shut him down. How would you describe his development, coach,

611
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: from the moment you got your hands on him until

612
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: the time you shipped him off to coach Cutcliffe. Well,

613
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: that's that's really an interesting story because, as I told you,

614
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: he physically was not a candidate for college football until

615
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: very late in his high school career. I mean he

616
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: even as a junior he was like six ft two

617
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: hundred seventy pounds, and he just kept growing and growing

618
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: and developing. What I will tell you is that he

619
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: was always the first guy out on the practice facility.

620
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: He never left the field unless he accomplished everything that

621
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: he set out to do. Uh. In all my years

622
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: of cong and all the quarterbacks that I had, I

623
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: don't think anybody spent any more time studying the game

624
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: plan and preparing himself mentally. He never missed our daily

625
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: get together to talk game plan and talk offense in

626
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: three years, not once. I could just set my watch

627
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: by him coming through my door. So it was awesome

628
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: to see this five eleven hunt pounder become a six

629
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: ft four pounder where he went off to Coach Cutcliffe

630
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: and of course you you guys probably know that story.

631
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: He almost didn't make it. I mean he was he

632
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: was going to the Ivys and that's a whole that's

633
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: a whole another story because he broke uh he broke

634
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: his risks playing basketball as a junior and had a

635
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: cast on it the entire spring, and I was actually

636
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: fearful he wasn't going to make it back for football season.

637
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: So he missed. He missed every showcase, every combine, every

638
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, he never got to go to any camps

639
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: or anything until the middle of July, got his cast off,

640
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: took a tour of the Ivys. A week later, Dazzle

641
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: him came back and I made one more phone call

642
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: to Coach Cuckliffe. I said, coach, you got to take

643
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: one more look at this kid's highlight film. And he

644
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: did and have called me back that I want them,

645
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: but we don't have a scholarship for him as Daniel,

646
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: So I don't care. I'll go to Duke. I want to.

647
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: I want to be with Coach Cutcliffe. And he went

648
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: up there as a great shirt and boom, you know,

649
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: within like two weeks he had a scholarship and the

650
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: rest is kind of history. Yeah, you know, Coach. Some

651
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: of the traits that you bring up when talking about Daniel,

652
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: his business like attitude, the fact that he is the

653
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: first one in, the last one out that normally serves

654
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: most quarterbacks will what else is it about Daniel that

655
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: is going to allow him to be a very successful

656
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: quarterback in the pros? Well, I think there's a couple

657
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: of personal traits that I would rely on right off

658
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: the bat. His his mom and dad have done a

659
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: wonderful job of raising him. He's just good a kid

660
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: off the field as he is on, and he comes

661
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: from a great athletic family. They have taught him skills

662
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: such as discipline, motivation. Uh. He's a kind of guy

663
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: that no team, whoever wherever he ends up going, is

664
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: going to have to spend one minute ever worrying about

665
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: his character. I don't think the kid has ever been

666
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: in trouble in his life. Um, he is a student

667
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: of the game. UM, he's a hard working guy in

668
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: the weight room. UM. And I know coach Kuck Kliffe

669
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: and I have talked several times about the fact that

670
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: he just if he has a problem with something on

671
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: the field, he just stays out there and just works

672
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: on it and works on it until he gets it

673
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: the way he wants it. So his his work ethic,

674
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: and his discipline and and his lifestyle are all going

675
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: to be very positive traits for him, you know. And

676
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: that's the two traits that I heard when I talked

677
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: to a guy who's been training him as he can

678
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: get ready for the NFL, and David Morris from QB

679
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Country kind of said the two things that strike him

680
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: about Daniel are prepared and pro two things he would

681
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: use to describe and which which sounds almost exactly like

682
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Your experience was with him there in

683
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: high school. UM. So I think that's that's a really

684
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: interesting evaluation. I'd also be curious because you know, a

685
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of times in the NFL we'll see quarterbacks with

686
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: all the physical traits and the ability to pick everything

687
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: up and make the throws, and then when things get messy.

688
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes things fall apart when they are stuck in a

689
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: hostile environment and dodging guys left and right. Uh, you know,

690
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 1: things start to come unwound a little bit. How would

691
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: you feel like he operates in that environment? Well, I

692
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: think for us, um he did a great job managing that.

693
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: And of course, when he was young in his career, uh,

694
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: as I said, we weren't amazingly successful, and he got

695
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: knocked on his fannie so many times it was unbelievable.

696
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, just get up and keep playing. And

697
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: I didn't have to tell him that because he would

698
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: hit the ground and pop right back up and keep playing.

699
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: And he just kept improving and getting through that. And

700
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: he was great for us on third down. And again

701
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: his his ability to run, which he showed Tuesday at

702
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: his pro day, was very valuable for him. And I

703
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: think if you, and I'm sure people have analyzed this,

704
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: you go back and look at what happened with him

705
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: up at Duke. I mean, his receivers dropped thirty eight balls.

706
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: I believe I saw somewhere last year. The running back

707
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: got hurt, the offensive line was questionable. Best I think

708
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: in his junior year he got hit more in any

709
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in college football, So uh he he had the

710
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: game too. Yeah, he's been there and he's got He's

711
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: gotten physically knocked on his fanny, I don't know how

712
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: many times, and man, he just bounces up and keeps

713
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: on rolling, you know. Becauch Ever, resiliency is something that

714
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: everyone is always looking for in the franchise quarterback. You

715
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: briefly spoke about it, right then, Um, do you believe

716
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: he is kind of wired the right way where if

717
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: he does get in, it has to play early and

718
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go his way, that he has enough

719
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: about him to figure it out and then bounce back

720
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: in maybe years two and three as a starting quarterback

721
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: four team that was struggling. I would say, yes, I

722
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: think that's true. It's my hope that he ends up

723
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: somewhere where he can be mentored by an experienced NFL

724
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: quarterback for a year or two and kind of get

725
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: that NFL experience under him before he's asked to be

726
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: the face of a franchise. You know, I think it's

727
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: very difficult for a college quarterback to come out of

728
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: the college ranks and step into a starting uh NFL

729
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: role as a quarterback and be able to function. So

730
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, if it happens to him, he'll he'll he'll

731
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: go to work and he'll do what he has to do,

732
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: and you know, he'll get knocked down, he'll get back up.

733
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping he ends up somewhere where he can

734
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of get moved along the process and learn and uh,

735
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the guys get to know him. You know, he's not

736
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: going to be the guy that's gonna walk in the

737
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: room in the first ten seconds everybody going, hey, slag,

738
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: are you doing. It's gonna take It's gonna take them.

739
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna take him a little bit of a time

740
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: to kind of get a feel for Daniel and learn

741
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: him and him get comfortable in that environment. But when

742
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: he does, they'll go through fire for this guy. Coach mcdonalthy,

743
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: would a pleasure of having you here. Thank you so

744
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: much for your insights on one of your prize pupils

745
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: in Daniel Jones were sure to appreciate. Well, I certainly appreciate,

746
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: and uh, I wish Daniel all the best. I love

747
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: the kid. He's awesome, and everybody at our school and

748
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: everybody that knows him, we're pulling for him where every lands,

749
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: He'll do the program, Proud rock and Roll. Thanks coaching,

750
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, DC. What was so great about talking the

751
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: coach was finding out things that you would never expect

752
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: to hear about Daniel Jones, the fact that he was

753
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: called Swag and that he has so much confidence and

754
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: how he exuded that confidence that his teammates picked up

755
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: picked up from it and it gave them confidence. Um.

756
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: A lot of what we look for in quarterbacks are

757
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: the intangibles, the qualities debt aren't seen necessarily on the field,

758
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: but you feel them. I think in talking to his coach,

759
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: Daniel joe Us has a bigger presence than maybe we

760
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: get when we just kind of look at him from

761
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: the outside in. Yeah, that's why I gotta get inside

762
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: on the inside there and uh and try and discover

763
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: and learn more about these players. Great insight there from

764
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: his high school coach, al right from high school coach

765
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: to college coach. His coach there at Duke legendary David Cutcliffe,

766
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: who's been around the Mannings and his reputation as strong

767
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: as any coach in college football. Unfortunately, had a chance

768
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: to sit down with coach Cutcliffe at the Duke pro Day. Alright, coach, Well,

769
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you so much for for opening

770
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: up the doors for us here today and giving us

771
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: some hospitality for this Daniel Jones workout. But the first question,

772
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: I want to go back to two when you first

773
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: saw Daniel Jones as a high schooler and what were

774
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: your impressions. Well, there were two times, two different times.

775
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: One was in camp, young coming out of the tenth grade,

776
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: and I thought he looked like a basketball player. His

777
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: high school coach, who was here today, called me as

778
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: he was about a little passed midway through his season.

779
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: He said, you know, I think my quarterbacks better than

780
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: where he's being recruited. Do you mind looking at him?

781
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: And I looked at him, and I called Larry right back,

782
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: and I said, do not call anyone else. Uh. He

783
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: had gone from basketball player to football player, and he

784
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: did a lot of things naturally. Well, um, but I

785
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: knew that he had a shot at being special, and

786
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: boy was I right. Obviously your history with with Peyton

787
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: and Eli and the and the quarterbacks you've been around.

788
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: But what is it you're looking for in a quarterback? Well,

789
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: it all starts with accuracy, um, and then then you're

790
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna train a quarterback from the neck up and

791
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: then the neck down, and this part of it, this

792
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: mechanical part of it, takes a lot of athleticism because

793
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: you can't think. You just have to do. And as

794
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: I watched him as a red shirt freshman, he had

795
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: to accuracy and regardless of when he was going against

796
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: our starting defense, his ability to manage his body, to think,

797
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: to play, to adjust and stay accurate, that's what I

798
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: always look for. And then you know, obviously you're always

799
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: looking for a great person, and he's that. Everything intangible wise,

800
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: just talking everybody around the program today seems to be

801
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: off the charts work, ethic and intelligence, being a great teammate.

802
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: One of the things I found interesting is I know

803
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: he came in here technically as a walk on it.

804
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: He got a scholarship before he even got on the

805
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: practice field. Um, but they say he'll he'll take the

806
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: walk on kids under his wing here he does. Um.

807
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: He embraces every teammate. It was interesting, you know the

808
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: story that two of our walking on players designed the

809
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: uh the protective device for his clavicle allowed him to

810
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: come back earlier. How appropriate is that? But Daniel Jones

811
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: is a really nice young man and he's got this,

812
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, this youthful look, and I think some people

813
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: probably misread that as to being a guy that's not

814
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: a fairest competitor and not tough. Don't challenge him. He

815
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: is physically and mentally tough. Well buck. When you get

816
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: the stamp of approval from Coach Cutcliffe or Coach cut

817
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: as everybody likes to call him, it's not gonna hurt

818
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: you with NFL teams because when it comes to reputation,

819
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: I said a little bit earlier, Uh, none better than

820
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe. No, none better great coach, great mentor great

821
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: quarterback developer. Uh the things that he's done, but all

822
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that he has encountered, UM has been remarkable.

823
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: He's had a ton of guys go from Duke Can

824
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: have their shots in the National Football League. Daniel Jones

825
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: will be his highest profile UH prospect. But in Daniel Jones,

826
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: I think he was able to recognize the guy that

827
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: came on as a walk on and worked his way

828
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: into being the starter and then being a two time captain.

829
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe deserves a lot of credit for unearthing a

830
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: dominant rough in in Daniel Jones. Alright, but great. Great

831
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: again to catch up with Coach Cutcliffe. There's another person

832
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: in Daniel jones football life though, that we need to

833
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: talk to, and that's a former disciple of coach Cutcliffe.

834
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: That is q BAK Countries David Morris. He has been

835
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: kind of a private quarterback coach for Daniel Jones for

836
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: quite some time. Had a chance to catch up with him. David.

837
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm doing great. DJ. How you

838
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: doing man, I'm doing wonderful. It's great to catch up

839
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: with you. I want to, uh, I want to talk

840
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: to you a little bit about Daniel Jones. I know

841
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: you've got a chance to visit with Rhett on the

842
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: show before, but just to u to update where everything

843
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: is with Daniel. For those that didn't hear the first conversation,

844
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: when was the first time that you met Daniel Jones

845
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: and when did you start working with him? So his

846
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: dad Steve called me. I think when Daniel was a

847
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: sophomore tenth grade at Charlotte Latin And and they came

848
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: down and and really ever since then, probably saw him,

849
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, three or four times a year, and uh,

850
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: last of the time even in high school. Uh, Daniel

851
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: would would would come by himself, you know literally, Uh,

852
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: get get a cab or an uber to the to

853
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: the facility and train and and and and head back out.

854
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: You know. One of those one of those things that

855
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: stood out early was just how much football meant to

856
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: him and how you know far he would go to

857
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: uh to work hard and um, not much has changed.

858
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: So as somebody who's been on the players side of

859
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: things and then now on the coaching side of things,

860
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: I think we we throw out the word coachable a lot.

861
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: And I think most people assume that every kid is coachable, right,

862
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: not the case. As I'm sure you've learned over the years.

863
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: How would you describe Daniel in terms of taken the

864
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: instruction you've been handed out to him over the years.

865
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: He's he's been great. Um. You know, we've built a

866
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: relationship that you know, he knows I'm gonna coach him hard,

867
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: tell him the truth. Uh, and I know that he's

868
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna give me his best and um and also you know,

869
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: you know kind of uh speak up when he doesn't

870
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: understand something or when he's not quite um, you know,

871
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: following what what what we're what we're covering. I think

872
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: so much of the coaching and teaching aspect is as

873
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: the communication side of things and in the ability to

874
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: make sure, um, the kid knows why we're going over

875
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: certain things. But Daniel Jones is a is an absolute

876
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: student of the game. Um. He loves the learning process.

877
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: He loves um, the working process. He's a he's a

878
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: he's he's a you know, a Jim rad, a football junkie.

879
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: All that stuff absolutely applies to him. But um, you know,

880
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I think he's grown every year and and it's one

881
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: of those things that he's completely bought in. And uh,

882
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: I think you know, with his time Duke as well.

883
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I think if you go back and you talk to

884
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Coach cut or Rope, um those uh, those guys would

885
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: tell you that he's a great listener and he's a student.

886
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: Anybody that's been around Coach Cutcliffe as you have playing

887
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: for him and just having a long term relationship with

888
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: him and on him forever, they say, when you're around

889
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Coach Cutcliffe, it's like getting a master's class in quarterback play. Uh.

890
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: For those that aren't familiar. Obviously the background there with

891
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: the Mannings, but what is it about Coach Cutcliffe that

892
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: makes it such an advantage for somebody who have gone

893
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: through a period of time three or four years of

894
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: playing for him. Yeah, I mean I think you know,

895
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: I told Rhett, one of the first things that comes

896
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: to mind is is preparation. I mean, he's gonna he's

897
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna be uh prepared. Daniel's a guy that's um, it's

898
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: been through a lot as a quarterback. I think that, UM.

899
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: One of the things that coach cut in roper Uh

900
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: what they do is is they challenge the quarterback to

901
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: know everything, um, including you know, defensive fronts and contours

902
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: of defenses. And so I think the pre snap process,

903
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: the snap process is something that is ingrained in you

904
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: and if you don't get it or understand it, then

905
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: you won't play. And and that's one of the things

906
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: that um that that coach Cutt does. The other thing

907
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: I would just say that he um, you know, when

908
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: I got coached by Coach cut it was one of

909
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: those things where there's there was a number of moments

910
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: where the light went off like whoa, you know, I've

911
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: never heard that before or I never you know, never

912
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: knew that. And and so I feel like from a

913
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: teaching aspect, um there's so many UM things that that uh,

914
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: that you learned that that you had never quite heard before.

915
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: And I think down the road sooner or later, you

916
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: know these things are gonna help you and they're also

917
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna come up often. But I mean, you know, he's

918
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: he's used to looking at fronts and idea and mike

919
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: and changing protections and um getting out of bad play.

920
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's the main thing is UM. Coach

921
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Cutt expects a lot of his core or backs and

922
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: puts a lot on their plate, and so I think

923
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: that Daniel is is used to that environment. Are there

924
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: any Are there any coach cut phrases that that you

925
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: were called plan for him that Daniel could maybe repeat

926
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: back to you have heard the same thing. I have

927
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: some of my favorite quarterback coaches that I've had over

928
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: the years. I remember, UH coaching, You've gotta be able

929
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: to sit on the front of the porch and see

930
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: around the whole house. That was one of my favorites

931
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: we had. They take it all away. You can always

932
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: get it to a be aware of your check down.

933
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: Can't go broke taking a profit. I'm sure Shirley Coach

934
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: cut has some kind of a saying you guys have

935
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: in common there. I mean there's so many, um you know,

936
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, one of the things

937
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: from a from a practice standpoint is, uh, you know

938
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: he'll always say, uh, you know, tread the ground like

939
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: a hot stove. You know you're never on it long

940
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: hopefully from a quarterback standpoint, uh, you know that's it's

941
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: something that that that should apply. Uh. You know, I

942
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: think one of the things that um, the other thing

943
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: that comes to it's just the you know, getting the

944
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: ball out fast. It's not like that's um some catchphrase.

945
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: But you know, you studied the careers of of Peyton

946
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: and Eli and the reason they were able to play

947
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: so long is because they didn't take you know, you know,

948
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: crazy hits that there's a cock in your head and um,

949
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: you know you know it and you know that if

950
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: you're if you're you've hitched twice, then either you're about

951
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: to get hit or that something bad is about to happen.

952
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's one of them, um, you know,

953
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: and just just the ability to um to to understand

954
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: you know again that the defensive front is so what

955
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: we were always taught and what coach cut teaches now

956
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: is initially you look at the contour you know from safeties,

957
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: and you kind of get a good pre snap. You

958
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: go to the front, is it over under? Is it

959
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: an odd? Is it a bear? Uh? And then you know,

960
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: and then we go back to the safeties, right, and

961
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean there's just a lot of pre snap stuff there.

962
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean there there's there's there's a couple

963
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: of dozen phrases that we could throw out there that

964
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: uh that I think Coach cut is famous for. I

965
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: love I love those seeing even in saying that. Another

966
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: one came to me. We had a coach he used

967
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: to say, the safeties are the window into the soul

968
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: of the defense. All these things, and it's been twenty

969
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: years since we've heard these things, and they all just

970
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: they're stuck in there somewhere. Dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, touchdown,

971
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: first down, check down, I mean check it out there

972
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: you go. That's another good one. Yeah. I could geek

973
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: out with you on all the quarterback stuff all day long.

974
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Daniel personality wise, how would you

975
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: describe him? You know him extremely how would you describe

976
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: his personality? Very confident, very comfortable in his own shoes. Um,

977
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: he's a guy that um, he knows, he knows when

978
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: to speak up. But as I mentioned earlier, he's a

979
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: great listener. Um, he has uh the ability, he wins

980
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: his teammates early. His teammates love him, they respect him.

981
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: I would say he is very aggressive, but um, but

982
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: he handles it in a manner that is very controlled. Uh.

983
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: You're not gonna see a lot of freak out from him.

984
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of um uh kind of

985
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: a calm demeanor. I think that Uh that is you know,

986
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: I think a disposition is very important. Uh, same token.

987
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the he's one of the toughest guys

988
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. Uh, he's a fighter. Um. You

989
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: know again, it's one of those things that um, you know,

990
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: he knows when to speak up and and he you know,

991
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: he's a verbal guy. It's one of those things though

992
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: that I think. Um, his way of doing things is

993
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: is he he wants to earn the respect of of

994
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: his teammates of that locker room before he starts running

995
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: in his mouth. And I think you know in the

996
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: league that that's gonna be something that's really gonna help him. Um.

997
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: But Yeah. I mean just from a personality standpoint, he

998
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: has it. Uh. You know he's to your captain and

999
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: you know former walk on and you know then he's

1000
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: a three year starter to to your captain, starts as

1001
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: a register freshman. Um, he's fought his way to where

1002
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: he is now and and um, and I think it's

1003
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: one of those things where he's not he's not trying

1004
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: to do it somebody else's way. He's very confident in

1005
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: the way that he leads. I want to be trying

1006
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: and word this carefully because that I want to respect

1007
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Eli Manning and what he's accomplished. Um. Two times Super

1008
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: Bowl winner, has played at an elite level. Um. But

1009
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: when you've been around Daniel and seeing what he can do,

1010
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: can he get he's not there now? Can he get

1011
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: to the level that Eli Manning has been able to

1012
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: play at? Does he have that ability in him to

1013
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: get to that high of a level. Yeah, he does,

1014
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's there's so much that happens

1015
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: there I think. Um, I think that the first thing

1016
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: uh that comes to mind for me with Eli, who

1017
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: who was a close friend of mine and a guy

1018
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: that spent a lot of time around and Um, you

1019
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: know he loved football, right, Daniel Jones loves football. Um.

1020
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Those two guys would play football, Uh as long as

1021
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: they could walk right, and and their motivation is pure. Um,

1022
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the guys that, um, that that will

1023
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: go longer than you. Uh, They're gonna be the guys

1024
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniels a guy that will go harder than you. Um.

1025
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: And I think that you start thinking about those intangibles.

1026
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: There's a reason, um why those type people make it

1027
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: and have a lot of success. And and Daniel has that. Um,

1028
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to be great. Uh. He wants

1029
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame one day. Uh.

1030
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: He knows what it takes, you know, what it's gonna

1031
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: take to get there. But I mean I think from

1032
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: a standpoint of um, you know what the future looks like. Uh,

1033
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's one of those guys who

1034
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: just won't be denied, you know. And so how it's

1035
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: all gonna shake out, you know, I don't know. It's

1036
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna be fun to see, but yeah, I mean he's

1037
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: he's relentless in this pursuit of of what he wants.

1038
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. All Right, last question, I'll

1039
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: let your own. I appreciate you giving us some time

1040
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: here today. UM, but but your last piece of advice.

1041
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: I know you'll continue the relationship with Daniel going forward.

1042
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: But once it's announced he's picked, he knows where he's going. Uh,

1043
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: he calls you to to to check in with you.

1044
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: What's your last piece of advice before he begins this

1045
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: NFL journey? Yeah, it just enjoy it, be yourself. UM,

1046
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: do what you you know, do it got you here.

1047
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: You know we're work, you're behind off. Don't don't hesitate. Uh,

1048
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: there's gonna be mistakes along the way. Um, but you

1049
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: know you're you're made for this stuff. And uh, I

1050
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: can't tell you the last three months I've had with him. Um,

1051
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean I love the kid before then you know,

1052
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: kind of seeing him grow up. But but to be

1053
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: around him every day from you know, seven thirty am

1054
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: to five him and and him say, you know, can

1055
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: we keep going you know every day? Um, there there's

1056
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: a level of u of commitment there that there's a

1057
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: reason he is where he is and so just just

1058
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: go be Daniel Jones. And UM, you know, I don't

1059
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: don't change anything other than uh, you know, Uh, you know,

1060
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you'll have to start bringing lunches out in

1061
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: the cafeteria to people, but he's used to doing that anyway,

1062
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. Hey, thank you so much there. I appreciate

1063
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: your time. Man. I know you're busy, got a lot

1064
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: going on. Uh, it's great to catch up with you

1065
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: and look forward to doing again real soon, DJ I

1066
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Man, talk to you soon. Block. It's always

1067
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: helpful when you get these guys that's spent a lot

1068
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: of time around these prospects and training them and getting

1069
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: them ready. Um. A lot of insight there from from

1070
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: David Morris. Yeah, a lot of insight and I'm not surprised. Look,

1071
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: David Morris knows quarterback play. He obviously played behind Eli Manning,

1072
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: was reared under David cut Cliffe, so he's been able

1073
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: to share those nuggets and so they were ship is

1074
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: especially one is one that has helped Daniel Jones grow

1075
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: into one of top prospects at his position, one that

1076
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: we are both excited to see as he makes his

1077
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: way into the Nation Football League. All right, but great

1078
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: to hear from everybody else around Daniel Jones. But we

1079
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: both had an opportunity to talk to Daniel Jones himself

1080
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: during this draft process. You chatted with him at the Combine.

1081
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: I had a chance to sit down with him at

1082
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: his pro day there and Durham a couple of weeks ago.

1083
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to those chats. So you have

1084
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: a unique background because you have guys that have really

1085
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: developed other guys, David cut Cliffe in your quarterback coach,

1086
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: David Morris and all those guys. What have you been

1087
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: able to learn from them along the way to really

1088
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of help you get ready for the next level.

1089
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things, um, going back

1090
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: to Duke uh, you know, Coach cut and coach Rope.

1091
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: But I think I'm uh, you know, prepared from a

1092
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: processing processing standpoint and kind of an understanding of playing

1093
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: the position in the game. UM, and hopefully that's prepared me.

1094
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, I understand that the NFL is and the

1095
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: next step it's a it's a um you know, even

1096
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: more of that that way. But UM, I think I'm

1097
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it and that's been that's been good

1098
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: for me. But you know, I think the common theme

1099
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: with all those guys just how serious they take practice

1100
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: being on the practice field. You know, I think with

1101
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: coach cut it always starts on the practice field, developing

1102
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: practice habits, and and that's something that uh, you know

1103
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: David has you know, carried into his coaching and something

1104
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: that he takes very seriously. So um, I think I'll

1105
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: definitely carry that with me for the rest of my career.

1106
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: So so coming from your background, you gut like admittedly

1107
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: you weren't a big time or five star recruit. You

1108
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: kind of earned your way and worked your way up

1109
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: at and du can put yourself in a position to

1110
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: be here. Now, what is going the long way the

1111
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: hard way taught you to kind of gets you ready

1112
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: to be a franchise quarterback? Um? You know, I think

1113
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: even back to when I was a little guy, when

1114
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: I was you know, pop warm in middle school, I

1115
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: was always a younger guy. I was always a smaller guy.

1116
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: Um physically now I'm um, you know, in a in

1117
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: a position physically to to play, But I wasn't always

1118
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: that way. So I think it just kind of, um,

1119
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: going up like that, competing like that taught me a

1120
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: lot about you know, toughness first and foremost, um, you know,

1121
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 1: being competitive and just kind of just kind of fighting.

1122
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: I think I've always had to fight, so um, you

1123
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: know hopefully now that that physically my I'm caught up

1124
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: in physically, I feel like I'm in a good place,

1125
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: um to take this step, you know. I think those

1126
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: things kind of that fight, that competitive nature. UM, you know,

1127
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: really what's gonna We're gonna make me successful in the NFL.

1128
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: Unlike some quarterbacks, you played a bunch of sports in

1129
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: high school. Three sports standout. How did playing other sports

1130
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: kind of round out your game? It made you a

1131
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: better player overall? Um, I mean, I think it's just

1132
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: the will to compete. You know, every season you're competing again, um,

1133
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: and you're competing in a different way, but it's at

1134
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's it's competition. I think

1135
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: that's the main thing and all that. But you know,

1136
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: I think there's certain skills and certain uh you know,

1137
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: movement patterns in all sports that you um, you know

1138
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: that you learn and you develop over time, and those

1139
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: carry carry over for sure back and forth. So leadership

1140
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: is such a big part of the quarterback position. Uh,

1141
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: haven't been a guy that has led a team like Duke. Um,

1142
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: how do you feel like you've refined your skills and

1143
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: are you comfortable at the stage of your career thinking

1144
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: you can step into an NFL locker room and eventually

1145
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: be a leader of a team. I'm very I'm very

1146
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I think, Um, to me, leadership has

1147
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: always been about building relationships. Um, you know, making sure

1148
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: you understand the people you're with and they understand you,

1149
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: and giving him a chance to do that. So you know,

1150
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: I you know, I came into Duke as a walk

1151
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: on UM and you know, I read shirt that year,

1152
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: I started the next year, and then I was a

1153
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: two year captain after that. So you know, I feel

1154
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: comfortable earning respective teammates and through that process. I think, Um,

1155
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: it's something I've always done well and something i think

1156
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: I'll do well in the NFL. Naturally, most players always

1157
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: have someone that they look up to in the NFL

1158
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: that maybe the emulator pattern of the game. After Who

1159
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: are some of those NFL quarterbacks that you look up

1160
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: to and that you kind of use as your role

1161
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: models when it comes to playing a game. Uh, we're

1162
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: growing up at Charlotte. Jake Loan was a guy, so

1163
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: so I really really love watching Jake and those Panthers. Uh,

1164
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: those pant there's play and and um, so you know him,

1165
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: but but Peyton Manning too was like that for me

1166
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: and looking up to him watching him kind of just

1167
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: the way he plays the game, just you know, his

1168
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: approach to the game, his his ability to to process,

1169
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's really playing the position.

1170
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what it's all about. And I mean

1171
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of the model that way. So

1172
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: now that the combine is doing, you have your pro

1173
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: day and a couple of few private workouts to look

1174
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: forward to. What are some of the things that you

1175
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: want to continue to work on to kind of show

1176
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: scouts and evaluate is that you're really ready to be

1177
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: at the next level. Um, you know, I think, Um,

1178
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: I'll continue to work mechanically to stay compact. I think

1179
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: I've improved. They're working with David and and um you

1180
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: know coach cut with that. So so that's something I'll

1181
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: definitely do. But um, you know, now going back uh

1182
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: to Duke here, I'll be back in Mobile next week

1183
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: and then I'll be back at Duke. We'll we'll work

1184
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: on a pro day script and kind of getting back

1185
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: with those guys will be a lot of fun. Um,

1186
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, t j Uh Jonathan Lloyd, Daniel Helm, Davis

1187
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: co Behavior, all those guys, Uh, coming out this class

1188
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: will will be a lot of fun. So I'm looking

1189
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: forward to getting back there and just kind of building

1190
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: that chemistry back. Well, one thing we're looking forward to

1191
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: is what you continue to grow, Uh, not only as

1192
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: a player, but as a person. Thanks so much for

1193
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: joining the Move to six podcasts. Yeah, thanks for having me, Bucky. Well,

1194
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: I feel like we've got a lot in common. Our

1195
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: initials are DJ, we were seven team. We both played

1196
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: our college football in the state of North Carolina, and

1197
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: that's where it is. Okay, big day for you today

1198
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: at the protot. How do you feel it went? I

1199
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: thought it went well. Um, you know, I think we

1200
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: came out here and did what we wanted to do. Um.

1201
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to get that Ford in so uh,

1202
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: Glad that went. Glad that went better. And then from

1203
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: a you know, throwing standpoint, we want to be aggressive

1204
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: and and do what we'd worked on these past couple

1205
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: of months, do what I had, you know, done with

1206
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: these guys since since we stepped on campus. So you know,

1207
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: I thought we did that. We wanted to be aggressive,

1208
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: we wanted to show a lot of different things. And

1209
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, overall, I thought, I thought we did a

1210
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: pretty good job. I did a nice job. And to me,

1211
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: the drive throws, I thought, you guys really made a

1212
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: point of that, even on some of those corners flatballs,

1213
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: drive throws and get a chance to show off your

1214
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: arm strength a little bit. I want to go back

1215
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: to to begin in here. As you're going through the

1216
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: college process, you commit to Princeton, and then at the

1217
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: end Duke comes along, and it's going to be a

1218
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: situation where maybe you have to to walk on initially,

1219
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: but the scholarship comes along soon thereafter. But why the

1220
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: decision to come to this place? I think there's a

1221
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: number of things. One being in Charlotte. I was close,

1222
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: um so just two hours away. It made sense. It

1223
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: was far enough from uh you know, far enough from home,

1224
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: but but close to and and um so that was

1225
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: a big thing. And and uh you know, coach cut

1226
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: was obviously a big factor in that. His reputation coaching

1227
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: quarterback developing quarterbacks was something that was, um, you know,

1228
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I saw his opportunity. And also academically, I

1229
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: mean I wanted to go to a a good school,

1230
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: so Um, you know, in those ways, I think it

1231
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: was kind of a perfect fit for me. Obviously with

1232
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: with Coach cut Cliff and his history with the Manning family.

1233
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: I know you've got a chance to to know, to

1234
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: know Peyton and Eli and Eli especially what have you

1235
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: taken for them? What advice have they given you as

1236
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: you're going through this process. Um, yeah, you know, I've

1237
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: I've been lucky to have those relationships and and you know,

1238
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: obviously Coach cut and and his help and informing those

1239
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 1: relationships has been been awesome in a in a huge

1240
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: part of you know, my my Duke experience. I think, um,

1241
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, talking to Painting a little bit

1242
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: through this process. Um, you know, when I was making

1243
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: the decision, he he said, Um, you know, I remember

1244
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: he said, whatever you decide to do, whatever decision you make,

1245
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: people are gonna, Um you know say good things, are

1246
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: you say bad things, and it's up to you to

1247
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: prove you know those people right or wrong? Uh kind

1248
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: of you know you're in charge of your your story. Yeah,

1249
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're writing the story. So I thought

1250
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 1: that was, um, you know, a good way to look

1251
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: at it. And coming from a guy like that, You're

1252
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna certainly listen to it. What are the giant when

1253
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: you're talking with the Giants? Knowing your relationship with Eli,

1254
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: how is that go when you're sitting there talking about

1255
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 1: maybe you potentially coming in there to to sit behind

1256
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: Eli for a little bit and eventually take over for him. Yeah,

1257
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's uh. I've enjoyed getting to know those

1258
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: guys and and that's been awesome. But you know, with

1259
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: with a guy like Eli Manning and some and who's um,

1260
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, one of the great quarterbacks of certainly you

1261
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: know when I was a kid watching football and he

1262
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: was a guy to watch, and you know, to to

1263
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: have that opportunity if I did to you know, learn

1264
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: from him and watch him and on a uh day

1265
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: in and day out basis and and kind of study

1266
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: him would be a would be an awesome opportunity. You know.

1267
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: I've been lucky to do that, um a couple of

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Speaker 1: times here when he's come down, and you know, I've

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Speaker 1: gotten a lot from that. So you know, to do

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Speaker 1: that every day would be, um, you know, an awesome opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I want to try and get you to show people

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Speaker 1: a little more your personality as well, because you're you're quiet,

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Speaker 1: and you're reserved. And even coach cut It even said,

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Speaker 1: don't fool that. Don't fool yourself. If this kid's ultra competitive. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to the Notre Dame game. I guess

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Speaker 1: there's twenty six teen because talking to coaches around campus today,

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Speaker 1: they kind of said, that was your coming out party.

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Speaker 1: You got there in South Bend, in in that environment.

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Speaker 1: Is the rain that it sticks out to you about

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Speaker 1: that performance that you had down there. Uh. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know a number of things that was, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: my red shirt freshman year. I believe it was my

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Speaker 1: uh you know, third or four start um as a team. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously going to the South Bend, the tradition

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Speaker 1: of Notre Dame, and and uh you know, we we

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Speaker 1: were excited, but you know I knew we were the

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Speaker 1: underdogs for sure. So being a freshman quarterback in that

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Speaker 1: situation was UM to me. I think an incredible learning experience.

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Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, throughout the game, we battled,

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Speaker 1: and then we had to drive seven minutes ago um

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Speaker 1: to take the lead there and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a freshman quarterback, I had to step into the

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Speaker 1: huddle and make sure that all uh you know, those

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Speaker 1: other ten guys trusted what I was saying, and they

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Speaker 1: did and and uh we went down score we we

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Speaker 1: won the game. And that was um, you know to me, uh,

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Speaker 1: probably a defining moment in my career. And just uh

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Speaker 1: proving to those ten guys, proven too myself the whole

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Speaker 1: staff that I was a guy that could trust and

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Speaker 1: um count on in those situations. And I you know,

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Speaker 1: I certainly have the confidence I am. All right. Last

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Speaker 1: question for then, I'll let your run. I know you

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Speaker 1: you've got a hoop background and your family's got a

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Speaker 1: hoop background. A big win for Duke the other day

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Speaker 1: over u CF. But my question is have you have

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Speaker 1: you show out a round with Zion a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Have you played any pickup ball with him since he's

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Speaker 1: been on campus? I haven't yet. Um, I'd like to.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to, but I don't. I don't know my

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Speaker 1: turn to a to a dunk contest, but I know

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Speaker 1: i'd be uh, I'd be awesome. Uh. He'd make a

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Speaker 1: pretty good looking tight end out here. Don't you think

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Speaker 1: that he could do whatever? He could do whatever he

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Speaker 1: wanted for sure? But yeah, it's been fun to watch

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Speaker 1: those guys wish him the best um as they finish up.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, great job today. Appreciate you taking some

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Speaker 1: time for us. Thanks to appreciate all right, Buck. I

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Speaker 1: think you can see the personality started to come out

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Speaker 1: a little bit with Daniel Jones. He definitely is business like,

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Speaker 1: business oriented, but you see the little glimpses there that

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Speaker 1: personality pop through. Oh it does, it does pop through.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think sometimes you can't uh judge a

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Speaker 1: book by its cover. I think he's far more competitive.

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Speaker 1: I think he has a little more presence than we

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Speaker 1: were initially lead to believe. I think he comes out

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Speaker 1: as he gets more comfortable, and the more that we've

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Speaker 1: interacted with him, the more we begin to see the

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Speaker 1: natural Daniel Jones come out. And so I think his

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Speaker 1: teammates would eventually gravitate tourism. It's just a matter off

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Speaker 1: him being in the locker room day after day after day.

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Speaker 1: All right. If I if I was gonna say two

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Speaker 1: teams of where he could end up, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: just give two landing spots, I would say the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I would say seventeen. I know, the other pick six

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Speaker 1: and pick seventeen. They pick seventh tea will make them sense.

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Speaker 1: They go defensive linement at six and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a roll the dice, hoping that they would get

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones there at seventeen. I think that could be

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Speaker 1: a landing spot form. If he does not go to

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Speaker 1: the Giants, they could, Hey, they could punt on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation and roll with Eli Manning for another year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's been a theory that's out there. If they don't

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Speaker 1: go quarterback, I don't see him going to the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: I do see potentially the Los Angeles Chargers would be

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Speaker 1: the next one. I would keep an eye on there

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first round as a landing spot.

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Speaker 1: It's funny as you say that, because before you're writing it,

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Speaker 1: ever rode down charges at part of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: I believe the charges at um. I think the temperament

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Speaker 1: of the offensive coordinator, King wizzen Hunt is perfect form.

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Speaker 1: I think the temperament of the starting quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Rivers is perfect form him. I think he will will

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Speaker 1: thrive in those environments. Same can be said for Daniel

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Speaker 1: going to New York with Eli and playing under Shermer.

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Speaker 1: Those things would work. I would worry a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh just because of the Big Bend situation and

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Speaker 1: all the chaos that has kind of taken place in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. I would like to make sure that

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Speaker 1: he goes to a place that is solid, that is stable,

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Speaker 1: that allows him to grow, because I do believe he

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Speaker 1: can grow into a solid quarterback. Um those two situations

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Speaker 1: right there, to me are perfect situations for him to

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Speaker 1: kind of flourish as a developmental player. Anxious to see

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Speaker 1: what happens where he lands in the draft and to

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Speaker 1: follow his career moving forward. This has been a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: Here a deeper dive our three sixties series on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Be on the lookout if you haven't caught our other

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Speaker 1: three sixty episodes, a couple of Buckeyes with Dwayne Haskins

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, those are out there. More to come with

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Speaker 1: the Clemson defensive line, finishing up with Kyler lay the

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