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Speaker 2: It's so funny though. Every other day I it. You know,
Speaker 2: nobody was like, I'm already. No one listens to me
Speaker 2: every day, No one cares. But I didn't say today, right,
Speaker 2: And that's what happens. All right, Let's get into a
Speaker 2: bunch of the games from last night. How many games
Speaker 2: are on last night? There's too many?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Survivor count.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, to the Wednesday's schedule. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of television being watched, at least in my household, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys as well. But let's get into
Speaker 2: some of the key games. I got some questions from these.
Speaker 2: So the first one is we had the Suns dropping
Speaker 2: the Heat. They became the first team to clinch a
Speaker 2: playoff spot, Devin Booker return. That was nice for Phoenix.
Speaker 2: I thought this was a really dominant win here in Miami.
Speaker 2: But Lee, my question, just with the Suns here clinching
Speaker 2: throw the X up there on the end of Phoenix,
Speaker 2: what's impressed you most about Phoenix this year?
Speaker 4: Honestly, like, for a team to have not made the
Speaker 4: playoffs for a decade and then be two wins away
Speaker 4: from winning a championship last season, that almost never happened.
Speaker 4: So was that almost a mirage? Coming into this season
Speaker 4: and started off badly one and three, that's some off
Speaker 4: court stuff, And I was like, you know, it was
Speaker 4: Chris Paul last year. Was he going to be able
Speaker 4: to sort of get back to that level? You know,
Speaker 4: where the hell are they going to basically handle expectations?
Speaker 4: And they've ticked all the boxes. There's a real Spursy
Speaker 4: like feel, like a spurry blur feeling to this team
Speaker 4: right now because they have answered every single challenge. You know,
Speaker 4: they've dealt with all that of course stuff, and then
Speaker 4: you look at just how this team is right now.
Speaker 4: Javal McGee, you know a guy who's bounced around, he's
Speaker 4: picked up his championships, but he's come in and been really,
Speaker 4: really good. They picked up this mac Biombo. He's given
Speaker 4: them some really good minutes. Campaign was another guy kind
Speaker 4: of out of the league. He came back in they
Speaker 4: signed him to a contract. Landry Shammitt another guy who'd
Speaker 4: been on four teams in five seasons. He's one of
Speaker 4: those players like how does he keep getting traded? He
Speaker 4: seems like a good player. He's got a four year
Speaker 4: contract there. And so basically anyone who comes in produces
Speaker 4: for them. You know, when they're deep and when they're
Speaker 4: well coached. I mean, Monty Williams is from the Spurs
Speaker 4: sort of system there, so he's got that maybe that
Speaker 4: education there. And now with Chris Paul out, they start
Speaker 4: off a little bit of a bumpy bumpy start there,
Speaker 4: but now they go and get probably their most impressive
Speaker 4: win in in Miami. Now, no Jimmy Butler, but in
Speaker 4: that third they turned it up. They sort of did
Speaker 4: to Miami what Miami did does to a lot of teams.
Speaker 4: They claim, really shut them down and went down scored
Speaker 4: the other end. Devin Booker fantastic, nearly a triple double
Speaker 4: there last night. But overall, this team has basically, I mean,
Speaker 4: it still seems to be there a little bit underrated,
Speaker 4: and I don't know where they are in the championship
Speaker 4: odds right now, but how they're not second favorite at
Speaker 4: worst is incredible.
Speaker 7: They are very well coached.
Speaker 4: You're seeing guys like Cam Johnson and mcale Bridges having
Speaker 4: you know, career seasons right now when they're playing, and
Speaker 4: everything about the Suns that they do is very convincing.
Speaker 4: That defensive end is great. Offensively, they've got so many
Speaker 4: options and DeAndre Ayton, who's been you know, he's been
Speaker 4: a little bit up and down. He's still got some
Speaker 4: growth there. But they've got a legit big man out
Speaker 4: there who can score and dominate on both ends. So
Speaker 4: this is incredibly impressive what Phoenix has done. Because, as
Speaker 4: I say, for ten years, bit of a joke, you know,
Speaker 4: like a bit of a crazy franchise there. We saw
Speaker 4: them down in the bubble and they just missed out,
Speaker 4: and we thought, yeah, it's the bubble who nose last
Speaker 4: season shortened season. There is no asterisk on that season.
Speaker 4: But you can see how people can maybe say, well,
Speaker 4: let's see him do it in a real season, back
Speaker 4: to real conditions.
Speaker 7: And they're doing it all right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty three and thirteen was their most impressive win
Speaker 2: to date last night in Miami.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know looking at their fifty
Speaker 5: three wins, but I know that it just if it
Speaker 5: feels like they're not wavering whatsoever. I think, Yes, the
Speaker 5: consistency is amazing. The team is the most impressive part.
Speaker 5: But I think another impressive part is just the flipping
Speaker 5: of the narrative of Chris Paul. It wasn't that long
Speaker 5: ago where he was anti clutch. You know, sometimes these
Speaker 5: labels are ingrained in guys, and going back to his Clippers' days,
Speaker 5: Now he is after this season, he is one of
Speaker 5: the handful of players that you'd want the ball in
Speaker 5: their hands in the last minute. And again he was
Speaker 5: anti clutch, especially with the internet the way it is
Speaker 5: for that narrative to a flipped I think is ridiculously great.
Speaker 5: I mean, when people see watch the Suns, it's you
Speaker 5: you don't want the ball in anyone else's hands in
Speaker 5: the last minute. I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 5: But the fact is he has joined a very very
Speaker 5: special bunch at the top, and I don't see why
Speaker 5: they should be one of the top two favorites. They
Speaker 5: should be the favorite as far as the as going
Speaker 5: into the playoffs five weeks from now, because they went to.
Speaker 2: The finals last year. That's the thing. If this was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they've been bad for a decade, it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: can they really go all the way to the finals,
Speaker 2: you know, not making the playoffs, but you're prior then sure,
Speaker 2: then you're like, okay, maybe they're not a championship favorite,
Speaker 2: but they did they would they you said it, they
Speaker 2: were up to in the finals. They should easily be
Speaker 2: the favorites here. I don't see how they couldn't be,
Speaker 2: you know, unless suddenly we find out that Chris Paul
Speaker 2: isn't returning at all. And I'm not even convinced then
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't still be the favorites.
Speaker 3: Well, spoiler alert. They're the favorites now.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, at least took a while to get there the
Speaker 6: bet MGM Arizona site. I don't know if that changes
Speaker 6: from location to location, but they are the fa faites
Speaker 6: now because they've got nine more wins than anybody else
Speaker 6: in the league.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 6: That's the most impressive thing to me is that they're
Speaker 6: so much better than every other team in the league,
Speaker 6: because there's several championship contenders out there, but the Suns
Speaker 6: have been the best and they've done it with basically
Speaker 6: all of their stars missing a nice chunk of time
Speaker 6: during the season. By the time the season's over, all
Speaker 6: of their starters except for Michale Bridges, will have missed
Speaker 6: at least ten games, and they've taken zero steps back.
Speaker 6: Like lia Is saying, they get great performances from a
Speaker 6: Byambo Kaminsky had good games when he was still playing.
Speaker 6: Campaign has really seized his opportunity. With Chris Paul going down.
Speaker 6: They're just super professional, and that is Chris Paul being
Speaker 6: a professional guy and just having the attention to detail
Speaker 6: each and every single night. It's been a little bit
Speaker 6: rocky sometimes with Chris Paul going down. They haven't had
Speaker 6: necessarily the exact same fourth quarter execution, didn't need it
Speaker 6: in this one because they just completely blew out the Heat,
Speaker 6: which is impressive. The Heat have been playing really really
Speaker 6: well lately. So Yeah, to see what the Sons are
Speaker 6: doing without the guy who they're taking all their cues from,
Speaker 6: I think is really really.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got to be beating them start going into
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter because they're forty and oh when leading
Speaker 5: after three quarters, they're an abysmal five hundred if they're
Speaker 5: trailing after three quarters. But yeah, they are just so solid.
Speaker 5: Chris Paul leading the way, the way he's flipped the
Speaker 5: narrative on himself, you know, in his mid thirties is
Speaker 5: pretty cool for us old guys. And I will confirm
Speaker 5: across the bed MGM sites the Suns are the favorite.
Speaker 5: Oh I'm in Jersey right now and they are the
Speaker 5: absolute favorite, So at least in two states. I shouldn't
Speaker 5: say across all states, but I will say as well,
Speaker 5: I think the simplicity of a Twitter account adding an
Speaker 5: X to a name, it's pretty cool. I like it.
Speaker 5: I like the Suns just adding X to their name
Speaker 5: because that means that they have solidified a playoff position
Speaker 5: for the first time for the first team this season.
Speaker 5: I think that's cool. I like this simplicity of a
Speaker 5: Twitter account. It's still still hanging on. It's still cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, Well, they're a dominant team, like we saw,
Speaker 2: especially defensively. Second overall defensive rating, fourth overall offensive rating,
Speaker 2: best net rating in the league. Trace said, what are
Speaker 2: they nine games clear of the next best team in
Speaker 2: the league. That is that's amazing. That's a hell of
Speaker 2: a gap when we still have what fifteen games to go?
Speaker 2: Yea to be that much up?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, what are they fifty three and thirteen thirteen? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so they only won fifty one games last year in
Speaker 4: a shortened season, so they're already up there. But yeah,
Speaker 4: this is this is great. Now again with Chris Paul,
Speaker 4: it's about saving his legs as well for the playoffs,
Speaker 4: so in some ways minor blessing in disguise that he
Speaker 4: gets some good rests. You probably don't want him out
Speaker 4: for six weeks before the playoffs, but three or four
Speaker 4: weeks is probably not bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about that when he did
Speaker 2: get injured, So do it now? Yeah, Chris Paul always
Speaker 2: gets injured in the playoffs. Do it prior to the
Speaker 2: playoffs and hopefully they can string together a couple more
Speaker 2: or another deep postseason run here and you're helped out
Speaker 2: when Yeah McGee's grabbing a million offensive rebounds. Mckill bridge's
Speaker 2: awesome game, like everybody campaign. He didn't have a monster
Speaker 2: game last night, but we talked about how he's filled
Speaker 2: in admirably, just a just a juggernaut of it. Get
Speaker 2: done on both ends, and they just go about their business,
Speaker 2: and I like, I love that they do have the
Speaker 2: sour taste still left in their mouth of losing last year.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, remember Booker as he was walking off the court,
Speaker 4: he was like, damn, he wanted to sort of have
Speaker 4: one last look because yeah, two games up. I mean,
Speaker 4: tas you probably got the stats there, eighty three percent
Speaker 4: of the time the team's going to win the championship.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they do.
Speaker 4: And you know, look just how close it was. Remember
Speaker 4: was that one play that big sort of block there
Speaker 4: from Jiannis that could have swung the game back in
Speaker 4: Phoenix away. So they were so close, but they didn't.
Speaker 4: You know, they've used that as fire rather than just
Speaker 4: like feeling sorry for themselves.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they used their last night. They said that
Speaker 5: he'd beat them earlier in the season. So yeah, the
Speaker 5: booker said, we're doing this, and yeah, I'm sure that's
Speaker 5: going to carry over into the playoffs and hopefully they'll see,
Speaker 5: you know, everybody's best in the Western Conference, because that
Speaker 5: was the knock against the Suns last year, right, each
Speaker 5: and every series, the Lakers had somebody injured. The Clippers
Speaker 5: obviously had somebody injured and on down the line. But yeah,
Speaker 5: they've been ridiculously so just too solid. So yeah, finally
Speaker 5: they are number one in terms of the odds. Took
Speaker 5: a long time you brought up Yannis.
Speaker 2: Let's get to what I'm calling some MVP type shit,
Speaker 2: all right, Yannis and the Bucks. They outlasted the Hawks
Speaker 2: for their sixth straight victory. We had Jokic dominating the
Speaker 2: Kings as the Nuggets win after they blew a big lead.
Speaker 2: I think Ziller pointed out in his newsletter, have the
Speaker 2: Nuggets and Kings played two hundred times since the All
Speaker 2: Star breaking feels like they're playing every second night. And
Speaker 2: then you know, got Yannis, you got the joker, Tatum
Speaker 2: dominates as the Celtics fend off the Hornets there, and
Speaker 2: he is on a tear right now, So I really
Speaker 2: guess the question is here at Trey from those three games,
Speaker 2: has has Tatum joined Yannis and Joker and a being
Speaker 2: whoever else at the table? Has he pulled up a chair.
Speaker 3: It's getting crowded in here.
Speaker 6: It's getting real crowded because Jason Tatum absolutely gets a seat.
Speaker 6: He's the guy who had early dinner plans already made,
Speaker 6: but he still wants to stop by, have a drink,
Speaker 6: have a piece of coconut cream pie, and just vibe
Speaker 6: out with his buddies. The rotating four and five spots.
Speaker 6: They have been hot this season.
Speaker 5: Good. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Curry and KD were there, though honestly they were kind
Speaker 6: of more on the one two side of things. DeRozan
Speaker 6: had a chance, Jimmy Butler made an appearance, Chris Paul
Speaker 6: and Devin Booker came by together.
Speaker 3: Not enough room for him.
Speaker 6: Jo's been there, Luca recently showed up, and now Jason Tatum,
Speaker 6: he's got to take a seat because he is on
Speaker 6: a heater since the All Star Break thirty twenty six,
Speaker 6: twenty four, thirty three thirty seven, fifty four and forty
Speaker 6: four last night on sixteen of twenty four, shooting in
Speaker 6: a very nice six of nine from three second back
Speaker 6: to back forty point games stretch of Tatum's career. He
Speaker 6: hit fifteen field goals in that fifty four point game
Speaker 6: as well, so fifteen field goals in consecutive games for
Speaker 6: the first time in his career. He's even wowing himself
Speaker 6: with some of the shots he makes. You're like, WHOA,
Speaker 6: that was a six step back. I had to ice
Speaker 6: the game here against the Hornets. The most important thing though,
Speaker 6: Celtics are six and one in those games that Tatum's
Speaker 6: spent on fire. It's his fifth forty point game of
Speaker 6: the season, which is sixth in the league. So I
Speaker 6: kind of think if you're putting Luka Doncic in the mix,
Speaker 6: you gotta put Tatum in the mix as well, because
Speaker 6: season long, their stats are pretty similar twenty eight nine
Speaker 6: and nine for Luca, twenty seven eight and four for
Speaker 6: Tatum on similar percentages. They're both making late runs for
Speaker 6: that fourth spot. I've never been more excited to see
Speaker 6: who comes in fourth in the MVP voting right now.
Speaker 3: But you're not getting higher than fourth.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately for any of these new jacks sitting down at
Speaker 6: the table, the big names keep staying there. Yokitch thirty eight,
Speaker 6: eighteen and seven, that's basically what he's averaging for the week.
Speaker 6: And Giannis just went out and put up forty three
Speaker 6: to twelve and five. Scored eighty two points in a
Speaker 6: twenty four hour span after thirty eight in the victory
Speaker 6: at Oksee earlier this week. Somehow he's third in this race,
Speaker 6: Like he doesn't feel like he can even get up
Speaker 6: to number one or two at this point, despite the
Speaker 6: fact you can make the case that he's the best
Speaker 6: player in the league. Again, he's had a better season
Speaker 6: than Joel Embiid, who's probably gonna win it at this point.
Speaker 6: So what a race? More awesome stuff last night that's
Speaker 6: just ridiculous. Like I turned on the Nuggets game after
Speaker 6: Survivor just I'm like, I want to see what's going
Speaker 6: on here. I want to see what Yoki's line is.
Speaker 6: It was the middle of the second quarter and he
Speaker 6: was at seventeen eight and four. I just started laughing.
Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, this is good stuff. So yeah, Tatum,
Speaker 6: take a seat, but uh, you're not getting too.
Speaker 3: Far in here.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, So Tatum is sitting down though, so take
Speaker 2: a seat, buddy. So if the three bigs, the International bigs,
Speaker 2: they've been there basically all year long, embiid. Yeah, you're honest, Jokic,
Speaker 2: in whatever order you want to put them, You've got
Speaker 2: Tatum with the four seat. That means there's one more
Speaker 2: fis So who's Luca Luca? So yeah, John not there,
Speaker 2: DeRozan not there. It's tough. It's tough, but it's a
Speaker 2: small table.
Speaker 4: Chris Pole is like, I'm just gonna go out and
Speaker 4: pock the cor save my seat.
Speaker 7: And Tyson. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, Chris Pole was in that compass, but you
Speaker 4: miss some time and you sort of fall away. It
Speaker 4: is incredible right now, Just how many guys because Tatum
Speaker 4: I agree with Trey that he's not going to get
Speaker 4: into that top three, but they are only two games
Speaker 4: back of the Milwaukee Bucks in second. It's not out
Speaker 4: of the realm of possibility that the Celtics do climb
Speaker 4: up there.
Speaker 7: It's number two. It could happen. I mean, maybe it will,
Speaker 7: maybe it won't.
Speaker 4: But if they get up there, then Tatum might be
Speaker 4: just sort of saying on one of those guys, just like,
Speaker 4: get over a little bit more.
Speaker 7: I'm here.
Speaker 4: Who knows, but the confidence he has got right now
Speaker 4: you mentioned the step backs. He's blowing kisses to the
Speaker 4: crowd there in Charlotte. It's awesome when a guy's just
Speaker 4: in this groove like this, where you know, this is
Speaker 4: not like it was on Sunday where he was just
Speaker 4: sort of lining guys up and saying, I'm just going
Speaker 4: to take you down. The Hornets aren't that good defensively,
Speaker 4: but Tatum is just like, there's really nothing anyone could
Speaker 4: do to stop me. I've got the threes, I'm getting
Speaker 4: inside if I want it. Anyone who's a tiny bit
Speaker 4: undersized is got virtually no chance against him. So this
Speaker 4: is an incredible run, incredible surge here from the Celtics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say one name that wasn't included there
Speaker 5: was Steph Curry, and I know he's overlooked because he
Speaker 5: was hot to start. As Trey said, he was leader
Speaker 5: of the clubhouse for a long time. His numbers are
Speaker 5: better than Tatums. Even though Tam scores a little bit more.
Speaker 5: Tatum had a bad start to the season. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: know he's shooting thirty four percent from three in that
Speaker 5: Luca range up, you know, below average throughout the league,
Speaker 5: and Curry's numbers are still better and his record, team's
Speaker 5: record is better. I think we're forgetting about Steph because
Speaker 5: he was he was a part of the leader at
Speaker 5: the beginning, and now we're just okay, we're done with that.
Speaker 2: But then what the problem with Steph though, or including
Speaker 2: him still is Draymond goes out and then they're like
Speaker 2: a five hundred team. So you saw the importance of Draymond.
Speaker 5: But they're still way better than the Celtics. Yeah, record,
Speaker 5: so fair fair.
Speaker 2: They started in CREDITB with her like what thirty and
Speaker 2: nine or something like that at one point. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he's just he's not there to me. And I don't
Speaker 2: even think Tatum is as crazy as that sounds, because
Speaker 2: I think John Moran is still deserving with the Grizzlies
Speaker 2: record at what it is. And then I guess then
Speaker 2: you are flipping a coin between Luca to them and
Speaker 2: even a Derozans trying to hold on, and it comes
Speaker 2: down a little bit to the team's records when they're
Speaker 2: that close, and maybe you're right, maybe the Celtics jump
Speaker 2: all these teams have the best record in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: It's sounds, you know, probably not going to catch the heat, but.
Speaker 4: Maybe probably not. But it's only four games, I know, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know that's not huge. I mean that win for
Speaker 4: the Bulls last night against the Pistons is huge in
Speaker 4: the standings.
Speaker 7: And you know they had to work for that as well.
Speaker 2: Pistons are hot, baby, Oh yes, what are they doing?
Speaker 7: What are they doing? They playing well?
Speaker 3: A loss last night? Boles had to play one quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, but I think it was Bobby Marks though,
Speaker 2: was tweeted last night like the Pistons last nine games
Speaker 2: or something like that. You know, they won a lot
Speaker 2: of them, even their losses were pretty close. Some good teams.
Speaker 2: Maybe the the the basketball gods will.
Speaker 5: Bless them in the draft lottery.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hard these guys were playing here. Let's give
Speaker 2: them the number one.
Speaker 4: They give the number one pick t that'd be huge
Speaker 4: when I didn't have it for like fifty years.
Speaker 2: Caid and chet is that where they would go, CNC
Speaker 2: Music Factory in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Chicago them there.
Speaker 6: I was saying like, don't don't they measure engines by
Speaker 6: ccs A lot.
Speaker 3: At least at least on a motorcycle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're talking more hps.
Speaker 3: Caid chet cecs. There's something to work with there.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, of course they don't have the number one
Speaker 6: pick and haven't drafted it, Matt, But then early.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're talking into existence. Well, let's go to another
Speaker 2: team that could have a number one pick and had
Speaker 2: a good victory last night. Jaalen Green thirty two. As
Speaker 2: the Rockets down the Lakers in overtime one thirty nine
Speaker 2: to one thirty would they end up with in overtime night?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they got three taken back off.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a lot and I was watching it going,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh yeah, ask the question, look good
Speaker 2: good win from the Rockets. Jill and Green's playing really nice.
Speaker 2: Is this bottom for the Lakers or can they go lower?
Speaker 5: Oh? They can go lower. I think when you said,
Speaker 5: when you said they have this, one of these teams
Speaker 5: has a number one pick, I thought you're talking about
Speaker 5: the Lakers. I mean they could, they could. Things are
Speaker 5: things are abysmal, things are very bad. They just have
Speaker 5: no identity whatsoever. I mean, it's really just rolling out
Speaker 5: the ball there. Jillen Green, who looks very very good,
Speaker 5: solid night. Twenty two points in this one, thirty two.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry thirteen of twenty one for thirty two points,
Speaker 5: he said after the game was over. When they destroyed
Speaker 5: the Lakers in overtime, he said, the game plan was
Speaker 5: to attack Mellow and put them in isolation. We were
Speaker 5: looking for the mismatch. We were trying to beat Mellow
Speaker 5: in it. We were trying to get Mellow in it
Speaker 5: and Reeves in it. I mean, it's really they could
Speaker 5: just go at anyone. Mellow was essentially playing the five.
Speaker 5: He was playing in the lane. What is this team?
Speaker 5: I mean, they could go they could go at Mellow,
Speaker 5: they could go at Monk, they could go at Lebron,
Speaker 5: they could go at Westbrook. I guess they tried to
Speaker 5: stay away from Stanley Johnson at times, but really it's
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard didn't play a minute in this game. You know,
Speaker 5: they didn't come out of camp with any sort of
Speaker 5: idea as to what this team was. And you watch
Speaker 5: them in the final minutes and it's Lebron, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to get things going and everybody kind of hanging around,
Speaker 5: and Westbrook, you know, did hit a jumper and did
Speaker 5: have a good game overall. But if you remember last year,
Speaker 5: like again, they were starting Dennis Shreuter and Contavious Caldwell
Speaker 5: Pope in the back court and they had the number
Speaker 5: one defense. I just think that they just haven't mentally
Speaker 5: got on the same page. If you if you allow
Speaker 5: the Rockets to go fifty forty ninety, as geeks say,
Speaker 5: as far as the numbers go, they shot fifty percent
Speaker 5: from the floor from three to ninety. From the free
Speaker 5: throw line last night they hit fifty two of one
Speaker 5: hundred and two shots. That just means you're not defending
Speaker 5: at all. I mean, this, this is coming down to
Speaker 5: the wire here, and they just they're just not in
Speaker 5: games and they're just not ready to defend. And you know,
Speaker 5: Russ Westbrook, as I said, solid game. Everybody wants to
Speaker 5: rip on him. He really did have a decent game,
Speaker 5: but as the game goes on, I mean, I think
Speaker 5: he gets a little gassed. He's missed a couple of
Speaker 5: key layups towards the end of the game, and he's
Speaker 5: just not part of the game plan. Like if Lebron
Speaker 5: is going to be the point guard in the last
Speaker 5: few minutes of a game and overtime Russell. Westbrook's best
Speaker 5: spot is the corner, just to spread out the floor
Speaker 5: instead of just hovering in the lane to bring another
Speaker 5: defender into the lane. And sometimes he'll go to the corner.
Speaker 5: But it's just like they don't have a set game plan.
Speaker 5: Westbrook is just not he's just not buying it. It's
Speaker 5: not he doesn't like what they are. He doesn't like
Speaker 5: what his role is. You know, they need more of
Speaker 5: a an Avery Bradley type who's on the bench most
Speaker 5: of the time and doesn't want to shoot. But if
Speaker 5: he's in the corner at the very least, at least
Speaker 5: the floor is spread for Lebron and for Anthony Davis
Speaker 5: when he comes back. So I think when Anthony Davis
Speaker 5: comes back, I don't think Westbrook will be closing games.
Speaker 5: I think it's just not a Lebron team. Lebron and
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis will come roll the ball. The other guy's
Speaker 5: just got to get the heck out of the way.
Speaker 5: And right now everybody's in each other's way. And they
Speaker 5: got destroyed by the Rockets in overtime. I mean, they
Speaker 5: couldn't defend a thing. Everything was weight open, everything in
Speaker 5: the land. Again, Mellow is the five, and you know,
Speaker 5: it's just not Mellow's thing to be defending.
Speaker 2: After the game, it was like, yeah, attack Mellow, that
Speaker 2: was the game plan. And it worked, even to the
Speaker 2: point where Mellow at one point was like body checking
Speaker 2: Jail and Green and it didn't get called for it somehow,
Speaker 2: and uh, it didn't matter anyway. They just kept attacking.
Speaker 2: I'm scoring on it.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is lebron Mellow. When these games,
Speaker 4: the longer they go on, they just look so old
Speaker 4: and so slow. The lebronze legs just don't happen. I know,
Speaker 4: had that incredible alley the other day against the Warriors,
Speaker 4: but in this game he went up, he could barely
Speaker 4: get off the ground and guy's just blocking him. He
Speaker 4: just doesn't have the power anymore. Like that in a
Speaker 4: long game, and the you know, the game waits for
Speaker 4: no one. These young guys are out there, like you
Speaker 4: know what it's like when you play pick up and
Speaker 4: there's that young kid who just like never running. That's
Speaker 4: what it's like against the Lakers right now. Jalen Green
Speaker 4: is just like, yeah, they're same, Melle. There's no way
Speaker 4: you can stay in touch with us, you know, physically athletically,
Speaker 4: you haven't got the speed anymore. He's never been a
Speaker 4: great defender. So they're like, and that's the sort of
Speaker 4: way that you kind of humiliate the old guys by saying,
Speaker 4: give me him because there's nothing he can do to
Speaker 4: stop me.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, they put.
Speaker 4: Up nineteen easy points in overtime, have three taken away
Speaker 4: from them as well.
Speaker 7: I mean, it was It's rare that you.
Speaker 4: See the double digit blowout in overtime, but this is,
Speaker 4: this is what it was.
Speaker 7: And Westbrook the same.
Speaker 4: You know, he did have a good game, you know,
Speaker 4: and you don't want people to sort of just keep on.
Speaker 4: You know, his family's feeling the pressure right now and
Speaker 4: understandably so. But this is just not a great role
Speaker 4: for him. And if you're Frank Vogel, if Lebron is
Speaker 4: your point guard, as Tats is sort of saying that
Speaker 4: you may as well put Westbrook on the bench because
Speaker 4: he can't spread the floor and Lebron, I mean, Lebron's
Speaker 4: just sort of swinging for the fences with his threes.
Speaker 4: It won last night of nine because he hasn't got
Speaker 4: that ability to just like blow past defenders anymore. So,
Speaker 4: you know, James Worthy said afterwards he thought it couldn't
Speaker 4: get lower, and it did. I think there's still some depthya.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, that is the question.
Speaker 6: You see a lot of Lakers fans saying that this
Speaker 6: isn't rock bottom, the next game is rock bottom, and
Speaker 6: then the next game after that is actually rock bottom.
Speaker 6: I saw Dave shilling big Lakers fans said this might
Speaker 6: have been his the worst Lakers loss of his lifetime.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean Eric putting Lebron on skates wild Yeah,
Speaker 2: James Worthy.
Speaker 6: This is also this is from Bill ram Over at
Speaker 6: The Athletic More James Worthy. On the postgame show, James
Speaker 6: Worthy said, I think the Lakers are at a point
Speaker 6: now where they know they aren't going to meet those
Speaker 6: preseason title expectations. I think they realize they can't win.
Speaker 6: They don't feel like they can win. So those words
Speaker 6: were relayed to Carmelo Anthony, who said, I don't.
Speaker 3: Totally disagree with them. They're checked out many.
Speaker 2: Sort of situation.
Speaker 6: One hundred percent it is Lebron. I thought was super,
Speaker 6: super weird game in the fourth quartering over to two
Speaker 6: for ten in the fourth quarter, had a layup, He
Speaker 6: had a layup, he shot on either side. Yes, at
Speaker 6: the end of the fourth quarter. He could have shot
Speaker 6: on the left hand side, would have got a file
Speaker 6: call guaranteed it's Lebron going up against Josh Christopher. Or
Speaker 6: he could have shot the little scoopy wooptee reverse. Instead,
Speaker 6: he kicks it out to Mellow, who missed the thing,
Speaker 6: and then in overw did.
Speaker 2: You see that? Sorry to stop you. I think it
Speaker 2: was Mellow or maybe it was Westbrook. When they're walking
Speaker 2: back to the bench, you can see somebody saying. It
Speaker 2: appears to me like they're saying to Lebron.
Speaker 5: Shoot I think he had a shot there.
Speaker 3: Man like, yeah, you're a scorer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a passer.
Speaker 6: You want to be called a score. Take a layup
Speaker 6: to win the game, Ye, that was weird. Or take
Speaker 6: a shot in overtime. He took one in the first minute.
Speaker 6: He took one basically in the last minute when is over.
Speaker 6: But he was in pass mode. He was like, you've
Speaker 6: stuck me with these players who have been literally cut
Speaker 6: from every single team and picked up off the waiver wire,
Speaker 6: like every guy you mentioned was out of the league
Speaker 6: at some point. Basically, I'm just gonna pass it to them.
Speaker 6: Let's see if they can win a game. Obviously they
Speaker 6: could not. Obviously they couldn't do anything defensively, So I
Speaker 6: don't know that fourth quarter and overtime from Lebron. I
Speaker 6: was just like, how can you how can you watch
Speaker 6: this happening to your team?
Speaker 3: How can you.
Speaker 6: Watch the Rockets run it down your throat every single
Speaker 6: time then just come up and dish it out to
Speaker 6: the wing, to dish it to Westbrook to miss the shot?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a nice he washed down lay up
Speaker 2: inside and he watched it like it was a bad miss,
Speaker 2: and you like you could see Lebron's body like totally.
Speaker 4: But that's been happening a lot. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 4: he's just like, oh my god, I have to do everything.
Speaker 4: But he also doesn't track back, so then the Rockets
Speaker 4: just pounded down the right right. Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 4: a disaster, absolute disaster, and.
Speaker 2: It's a disaster. You can get worse.
Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, Anthony isn't gonna like all of a
Speaker 4: sudden turn this team around. Where the Suns or the
Speaker 4: Jazz or the Grizzlies, Like, how do we stop this team?
Speaker 4: I don't see it all, whether they're full strength or not.
Speaker 4: There's no chance I get out of that first round
Speaker 4: just quickly.
Speaker 2: As for the Rockets, Jayalen Green, I saw you tweeting
Speaker 2: about he is fun to watch and he is have
Speaker 2: a nice little string here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's He's the Anthony Edward this YEP season where
Speaker 6: he was so underwhelming in the first half of the
Speaker 6: season that his second half, when the team is completely
Speaker 6: out of things, you're not really paying attention. But man,
Speaker 6: the athleticism was incredible last night, and he had like
Speaker 6: actually harnessed it just like running around like a crazy guy.
Speaker 6: He was like using his speed to take up space
Speaker 6: to get into defender's bodies, and then when he was
Speaker 6: wide open, it was money because he'd already gotten into
Speaker 6: such a good rhythm. He was great, And I thought
Speaker 6: Shangoon was really good as well. I think he had
Speaker 6: a career high twenty.
Speaker 3: One last night.
Speaker 6: No fear like he was going at Lebron or Mellow
Speaker 6: every single time. You know, these are NBA legends. Lebron
Speaker 6: got the best of him sometimes, but Shangoon got the
Speaker 6: best of him as well earlier in the game. So
Speaker 6: I thought seeing Green and Goon falling out together against
Speaker 6: the team like that was really nice.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that'll stick. But you know, G
Speaker 3: and G Music Factory, that's not a thing.
Speaker 2: Could be anything, could be a thing.
Speaker 3: We gotta keep saying green and goon, Green and gooon.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Well, we had some weird losses last night.
Speaker 2: We had Randall and the Knicks winning again in Dallas,
Speaker 2: blowing out the MAVs one o seven to seventy seven.
Speaker 2: And then we had Cole Anthony and Gary Harris leading
Speaker 2: the Magic to a one eight one oh two win
Speaker 2: over the Pelicans. No brandon Ingram in that game, and
Speaker 2: there's been an update he's going to be reevaluated in
Speaker 2: seven to ten days. Not good for them and their
Speaker 2: chances to try and get into that play or stay
Speaker 2: in that play in But what was the more surprising
Speaker 2: loss from those two tray Was it the MAVs losing
Speaker 2: again to the Knicks, or was it the Pelicans losing
Speaker 2: to a Magic team that's obviously not that great.
Speaker 6: Most surprisings gotta be the MAVs just because they've been
Speaker 6: one of the better teams in the league for the
Speaker 6: past couple of months, where the nexts have obviously been
Speaker 6: the opposite. But like you're saying, apparently the next just
Speaker 6: half the Mavericks number in Dallas. Nonetheless, this was a
Speaker 6: beat down, one of those games where first half leads
Speaker 6: are very very real. Knicks held the MAVs to seventeen
Speaker 6: points in each of the first two quarters, took a
Speaker 6: twenty seven point lead into the half. The big stat
Speaker 6: in this one. In the first half, the MAVs missed
Speaker 6: their first nineteen three pointers, finished one for twenty one
Speaker 6: from three in the first half. Todd Gibson, though one
Speaker 6: for one from three in the first half of that one.
Speaker 6: Dallas never made a run in the second half because
Speaker 6: they couldn't hit threes six of forty four on the
Speaker 6: night thirteen point six percent. That's what happens sometimes if
Speaker 6: you're a three point shooting team. Sometimes you're the good
Speaker 6: Burtons and sometimes you're the bad Burtons. Last night, all
Speaker 6: of the MAVs were Burtons. But shout out to the Knicks,
Speaker 6: just hilariously playing their best basketball of the season when
Speaker 6: they're almost completely out of things, but just now a
Speaker 6: little bit of hope for some bing bongs here.
Speaker 3: As for the Pelicans, the loss looks bad, but you
Speaker 3: mentioned it.
Speaker 6: The skates can't be that surprising when there's no brandon
Speaker 6: Ingram in the line. I've got this tweet from Burdensome
Speaker 6: four to one seven, who says the Pells are two
Speaker 6: and fourteen without Ingram twenty five and twenty five when
Speaker 6: he plays.
Speaker 3: Don't fail me again. I need it on the show
Speaker 3: the Pelicans fans talk about Ingram or else.
Speaker 6: Bad news though for the Pelicans. Brandon Ingram underwent an
Speaker 6: MRI yesterday mids a mild strain of his right handstring
Speaker 6: will be reevaluated in seventy ten days. Great win for
Speaker 6: the Magic, but it's tough for the Pelicans to win
Speaker 6: when they don't have brandon Ingram. They're probably fine. They're
Speaker 6: probably still going to be a playing team. So as
Speaker 6: long as he's back to beat the Lakers in that
Speaker 6: play in game, they should be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably okay because the Blazers have lost six
Speaker 2: straight games by one hundred and ninety four combined points,
Speaker 2: though they're just one game out of the playoff. Zach
Speaker 2: Loow sharing that with everyone this morning. Nine points. So yeah, Pelicans,
Speaker 2: by Defaulty're probably gonna hold on to it. But that
Speaker 2: sucks the brandon Ingram. But same question that I asked, Trey,
Speaker 2: what would you say was the more disappointing or surprising?
Speaker 4: Definitely the Mavericks getting punked at home by the Knicks,
Speaker 4: and the Knicks fans weren't safe or weren't happy until
Speaker 4: that final buzzer worldwide. While tweeting last night, he tweeted
Speaker 4: this out at halftime when the score is a twenty
Speaker 4: seven point lead to the Knicks, the Knicks hold on.
Speaker 4: God pays you ten thousand dollars in cash. The Knicks lose,
Speaker 4: God painfully incinerate you. Immediately following the buzzer, are you
Speaker 4: playing ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 7: Like that's not that much.
Speaker 4: That just shows like he's he's not that confident. And
Speaker 4: then he also tweeted the Nicks bingo, bingo.
Speaker 7: How do they lose at this time? Which is hilarious.
Speaker 2: So they didn't.
Speaker 7: They didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Hawks lost and the Wizards lost last night,
Speaker 2: so they gained a game on all those.
Speaker 5: Alive.
Speaker 4: Let's go Yeah, so just crazy. I mean, if Doncic
Speaker 4: is on the floor, like the map should be favored,
Speaker 4: especially against the Knicks. So they put up less than
Speaker 4: twenty points in three quarters, which is just unheard off
Speaker 4: in the NBA today.
Speaker 2: That's true. Anything to add to those surprising results.
Speaker 5: It's great to give Brandon Ingram some love. What a
Speaker 5: wonderful player. He's awesome. He is there a centerpiece really
Speaker 5: of that team. So that's that. That that at Burdensome
Speaker 5: four one seven.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5: Wow, I can't believe I remembered that Twitter handle. That
Speaker 5: is great.
Speaker 7: He is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's their centerpiece. But they're not going to fall
Speaker 5: out of the Western Conference playoff picture because the Blazers
Speaker 5: are literally playing nobody. You know, Simon's winslow, those guys
Speaker 5: are sitting. It's a fun roster to look at all
Speaker 5: those strange names you've never seen before, even as NBA keeks. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I love a Watford in my life.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 2: Well the Jazz dominated the Blazers for their eighth straight
Speaker 2: home victory. We had DeRozan big fourth quarter to help
Speaker 2: the Bulls snap the losing streak. Anything you want to
Speaker 2: add to that. They needed that one and that.
Speaker 3: Was a must win game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and put up a fight there for a couple
Speaker 2: of quarters, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah they did.
Speaker 6: They were good through the first three quarters and then
Speaker 6: red ass Tristan Thompson got into the Bulls, and I
Speaker 6: think you can kind of see the way things went
Speaker 6: with Cad Cunningham's game twenty two points, six assists in
Speaker 6: the first three quarters, zero and zero in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6: The Bulls finally focused and probably played their best defensive
Speaker 6: quarter since the All Star Break.
Speaker 3: I would say, and the like you said.
Speaker 6: Derozean was great, scored or assisted on the Bulls first
Speaker 6: eight in the final period, they pulled him out, got
Speaker 6: a quick supset. I would play forty eight minutes if
Speaker 6: I needed to. He almost needed to against the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 6: But DeRozan and Levine scored seventeen of the Bulls last
Speaker 6: nineteen in the last six minutes.
Speaker 7: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Close it out there. Clippers rallied past the Wizards. A
Speaker 2: tough loss for Washington here as they're trying to get
Speaker 2: into the playing tournament. I think, at least in the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference. One nine for the Clips. Van Vliet and
Speaker 2: the Raptors delayed Greg Popovic's record, you know, win over
Speaker 2: the Spurs. They also helped me out. This morning, there
Speaker 2: was a million games on. There was a Survivor premiere
Speaker 2: which was two hours long. I didn't have time to
Speaker 2: make a thumbnail with Greg Popovich's face on a thumb.
Speaker 2: It was gonna take too much time. So thank you
Speaker 2: to the Raptors for forgetting it done. A lot of
Speaker 2: people tweeting last night task as a Raptors fan, just
Speaker 2: nice to have an adult back on the team in
Speaker 2: Van Vliet who returned to the Raptors lineup. Just just
Speaker 2: a steady Fred for a reason, man, Just that makes
Speaker 2: that team so much better. So he helped out there.
Speaker 2: And then finally here Beasley sets a te Wolves three
Speaker 2: point mark in the one thirty two one oh two
Speaker 2: win over OKC Malite. Beasley eleven for seventeen from deep
Speaker 2: to break teammate Anthony Edward words team record of ten
Speaker 2: that he said just in December. Yeah, and Beasley is uh,
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy has hit a lot of threes
Speaker 2: this year. He actually has Minnesota single season three point record.
Speaker 2: He did it on Saturday. He beat Quick Trivia, who
Speaker 2: had the record for most threes made by a Timberwolves
Speaker 2: player in one season.
Speaker 4: Sam Cassell, Nope, you don't need to go well No.
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety May three's but Beasley's got it
Speaker 2: now and he's just adding to it. And the Wolves
Speaker 2: are on six game win streak, their longest since two
Speaker 2: thousand and four. Yeah, a long long.
Speaker 5: Time people are for the Wolves. Are they as good
Speaker 5: as two thousand and four? I will say literally literally,
Speaker 5: that's what people are saying. They were a fifty eight
Speaker 5: win team. No, no, not Yeah, they were a fifty
Speaker 5: eight win team in two thousand and four, a number
Speaker 5: one seed. They went to the conference finals because they
Speaker 5: had KG and they had that Sam Cassel that was
Speaker 5: that team that went to the conference finals. Coude have
Speaker 5: easily gone to the files. They are not that good, right, right? Right?
Speaker 5: Come on.
Speaker 2: Also, during this win streak, they've beaten OKC twice and
Speaker 2: the Blazers twice. But they are playing great and they're
Speaker 2: hammering them.
Speaker 4: I mean they're kicking the spot out and they're having
Speaker 4: a party at the end of the bench there. Because
Speaker 4: Beasley was going for Klay's record, he had ten with
Speaker 4: about seven minutes to go. Yeah, and I were trying
Speaker 4: to get him for you know, get him going, but
Speaker 4: he could he have to hit one more from there,
Speaker 4: but yeah, then they took him out played But it
Speaker 4: was pretty wild stuff there. But again, anything honestly any
Speaker 4: wins for the Wolves right now are great because they've
Speaker 4: got to just solidify their spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The problem for the Wolves is that they've been playing
Speaker 6: really well, but unfortunately they're chasing Dallas and Denver, who
Speaker 6: were also playing really well. So they've been stuck in
Speaker 6: seven for such a long time. But a really great season.
Speaker 6: Somebody tweeted us recently that Timberwolves read it apparently does
Speaker 6: this like Warren zevon wear Wolves of London video where
Speaker 6: they're adding all kinds of crazy stuff to it. So
Speaker 6: I will make this pledge to you if the Minnesota
Speaker 6: Timberwolves go to the conference finals like they did in
Speaker 6: two thousand and four, I will sing and play Warren
Speaker 6: Zevon's wear Wolves of London on guitar here in the class.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 6: Conference finals, Conference finals, all right, don't have to win it,
Speaker 6: just got to play a game if they make it.
Speaker 2: You like that song.
Speaker 7: I like the song.
Speaker 4: I just don't think we're gonna get at that.
Speaker 3: Semi finals first round, all right? All right, alright, that's fair.
Speaker 2: They're going to be a lower seed. It could be
Speaker 2: a tough team, but it's like they could too, you
Speaker 2: know for sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think second round is a ceiling max. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 2: All right, any other notes on any of the games
Speaker 2: from last night, there were a million of them. Anything
Speaker 2: else you want to touch on, gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. All
Speaker 2: let's take a break, because we got something really weird
Speaker 2: after the break. We had a bunch of strange odds
Speaker 2: that you can apparently place on tonight's Sixers nets game
Speaker 2: Net Sixers game, I guess in Philadelphia there with Ben
Speaker 2: Simmons returning, like I'm talking, very weird. Great, so we'll
Speaker 2: have some fun with that right after the break. All right,
Speaker 2: back in the Classic Factory showed us to a stream
Speaker 2: team for letting me know that Lee is rocking the
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson arm band. I didn't even see. It's just
Speaker 2: because where you're sitting with my angle on you there.
Speaker 2: But why did you decide to.
Speaker 4: Well, we're supposed to be going to the game tonight,
Speaker 4: and I was gonna wear this. I had my outfit already.
Speaker 4: I'm not done.
Speaker 2: Look, wow, the eyes on.
Speaker 7: So you know we're not going.
Speaker 3: We're not going, but you know you're going.
Speaker 7: Mentally, Yeah, I'm just wearing the outfit that i'd.
Speaker 2: Be now, well you continue to wear that, like while
Speaker 2: you watch the game today, probably maybe a photo photo
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 7: We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just big arm band.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: I got this in New York City two thousand and
Speaker 4: two when I picked up my first pair of ibisins.
Speaker 7: These are the ones I wore.
Speaker 4: I remember at the tennis I was telling you about, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I remember. The only the only thing is it's
Speaker 4: lost a bit of its elasticity a head. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a little bit loose now. But you know what, I
Speaker 4: tried to look into boing you on. He's impossible to get.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you can probably got a
Speaker 2: pretty penny for that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah there, yeah you could.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sell it because it's a souvenir, but
Speaker 4: it's great, excellent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like it's almost like a Survivor buff
Speaker 2: Now it's so strict exactly, we're around your neck.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Philadelphia seventy six Ers and the Brooklyn Nets square
Speaker 2: off tonight for the first time since the Blockbuster trade,
Speaker 2: involving James Harden and Ben Simmons. Now four of the
Speaker 2: five players Harden, millsap Seth Curry, Andre Drummond. They are
Speaker 2: in line to play in Philly tonight, but Ben Simmons
Speaker 2: he will be relegated to a cheer leading role on
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn bench. And we have a bunch of hilarious
Speaker 2: like odds, and I guess you can legit bet on that.
Speaker 2: I want to throw at you guys. But the first
Speaker 2: one I did see this task and I was thinking
Speaker 2: of you, head coach, Doc Rivers. He said he believes
Speaker 2: that the Sixers, Oh Ben Simmons tribute.
Speaker 5: Video, Damn right, they did.
Speaker 2: And you have been saying the last couple of days
Speaker 2: that you do think one is happening tonight in in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure, but I guess.
Speaker 5: Can you bet on that?
Speaker 2: I mean, you can bet on everything you should be
Speaker 2: able to. I don't have the odds on what would
Speaker 2: you set the line on that one?
Speaker 5: It's a no, like minus one hundred and fifty. I
Speaker 5: lean so okay, yes, yes plus yes.
Speaker 2: Is more unlikely. He would say yeah in regards to
Speaker 2: bending okay.
Speaker 5: I would say so yes, Okay. Well, I don't know
Speaker 5: what a tribute video entails, though, is what is what's
Speaker 5: the definition of a tribute video? Here's Ben?
Speaker 3: I mean anything the words thank you. It has to
Speaker 3: be included. Yeah, thank you, Ben.
Speaker 2: And I need to see some clips of him highlights
Speaker 2: only highlights.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what if it was just a shot of Ben's face? No, everybody,
Speaker 5: Philadelphia thank Ben Simmons's That's not.
Speaker 2: A tribute video, got it. That's just showing him on
Speaker 2: the that's just showing him on the board and saying
Speaker 2: hello to him. No, I need to see highlights, preferably
Speaker 2: set to ah, I don't know, some sort of Green
Speaker 2: Day songs and then and then you got to cut
Speaker 2: live to him and then have him way or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it happens.
Speaker 2: The actual things that you can bet on. So this
Speaker 2: is amazing. Will Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid touch during
Speaker 2: the broadcast? Okay? Note has to happen during the broadcast,
Speaker 2: not including halftime and or commercial purposes.
Speaker 4: So postgame though, can Yeah? Yeah, because because because because
Speaker 4: he's not playing Ben, I don't think we get the
Speaker 4: pregame DAP. Remember when Shaq and Kobe they had to
Speaker 4: sort of do it because it was Chris because yeah,
Speaker 4: and that was that was tense. You know, Shack didn't
Speaker 4: really look at him. I would expect something like that
Speaker 4: if he was playing him not playing, I think he's
Speaker 4: gonna sort of come out late to the bench, maybe
Speaker 4: rot at tip off, and BID's not gonna run every
Speaker 4: there and he's not gonna run into the court. But
Speaker 4: you say yes after the game, I can sort of
Speaker 4: see maybe a little like a man all right.
Speaker 2: All right, so yeah, yes, uh minus one is plus
Speaker 2: one ten.
Speaker 5: So the linemakers expect them to touch It sounds like it.
Speaker 5: And I think what increases the likelihood of them touching
Speaker 5: is the fact that Ben played in Philadelphia for so long.
Speaker 5: Maybe he goes the wrong way, maybe he goes to
Speaker 5: the wrong locker room at some point and halftime or something,
Speaker 5: runs into Joel, you know, on the baseline for instance.
Speaker 5: It doesn't necessarily need to be a hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: come up to you in depth, but hey, oops, I'm
Speaker 5: in the wrong. I actually think it's funny.
Speaker 2: More likely the ball finds its way over to the
Speaker 2: to the nets bench, Embiid is over there and then
Speaker 2: almost jokingly reaches out for like a quick little DApp up,
Speaker 2: like he just finds himself standing right beside him, and
Speaker 2: it's almost like, uh, you know, he's doing it as
Speaker 2: a joke, but there is a touch. I'm voting yes
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: If Simmons wanted to troll the Philly fans, he would
Speaker 4: do the mellow and pick the ball up and shooting
Speaker 4: and then sit back down.
Speaker 7: That would be hilarious. Good.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're yes, yes, yes, uh tray do the touch.
Speaker 3: That's what it says, do they touch?
Speaker 6: If you're including post game, I imagine there can be a
Speaker 6: post game.
Speaker 3: Touching of s Yeah.
Speaker 6: Obviously, though if I'm looking at the values here, I'm
Speaker 6: betting no plus one ten on no. I can easily
Speaker 6: see embiid ignoring ignoring Ben Simmons the way Shaq would
Speaker 6: to Kobe, and Simmons is not going to seek out
Speaker 6: and be It's gonna have to the other way around.
Speaker 6: But I do think embiid loves the performative aspect of it,
Speaker 6: so there's gonna be something that goes down. But it's
Speaker 6: also easy to see, like like like if Simmons comes
Speaker 6: out late.
Speaker 3: You know, they turned the lights down.
Speaker 6: To do intros for the Philadelphia so he sneaks in,
Speaker 6: so nobody really season the game has.
Speaker 3: Started, they just ignore each other.
Speaker 5: It could happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so following up from the touch question, if
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons and Joel and be touch, it will be
Speaker 2: and then you can bet on the following. Okay, the
Speaker 2: favorite of what it will be is a fist pump classic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: seven to four odds. Just a handshake slash, hand slap.
Speaker 2: Love that, okay, that's two to one odds. A handshake slash,
Speaker 2: handslap and a hug together so you know you've tried
Speaker 2: to do a million players, would always fail five to
Speaker 2: two odds. Just a hug, no touching with the hands,
Speaker 2: come on in seven to one odds.
Speaker 4: A punch ten to one bro punch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you know they're saying it's gets
Speaker 2: physical here. They're pissed off with each other. A face
Speaker 2: slap twelve.
Speaker 5: To one odds, that's the worst, would be amazing, that's
Speaker 5: that's the worst. Why would you should be one hundred
Speaker 5: to one, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And then a butt slap, Yeah, butla should be twenty
Speaker 2: five to one odds.
Speaker 3: Butt slap should be ten to one, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: A face slap, yeah, like I guess you could look
Speaker 2: at a face slap I'm trying to think, I mean,
Speaker 2: like you and slap them like you're a wrestler, but
Speaker 2: maybe it would have of like a Corleone face boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my boy, Ben Simmons. Right, he had like nineteen
Speaker 4: million dollars withheld from him, he should go and go
Speaker 4: bet heavy on the butt slap, win that money back.
Speaker 4: That way, he could say, yeah, the butt slap, let's
Speaker 4: make it a hundred one.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put a million dollars.
Speaker 4: Then he goes up, goes out and slaps away slap.
Speaker 4: I think the fist bump is fair enough. It's the
Speaker 4: odds on favorite there. I think that's what.
Speaker 7: You're going to get.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to I don't.
Speaker 7: Think a hug now.
Speaker 4: I think a sort of a non eye contactual sort
Speaker 4: of like you know, let's just do it.
Speaker 3: I doing this, It's good. I'm betting on a handshake, slash,
Speaker 3: hand slap and hug together. Okay, they're going for the
Speaker 3: full boat, the bro hug, full bro hug.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's actually like if you go in for the
Speaker 5: handshake handslap, a hug makes it less awkward, I would say,
Speaker 5: because you don't have to look at each other as much.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 5: So I think if they do go for a handshake,
Speaker 5: can slap. Then you don't have to be eye contactual,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. You go for the handshake,
Speaker 5: then you just get this thing over like it's it's
Speaker 5: less Yeah, it's less personal.
Speaker 6: You can like make a point of looking over the
Speaker 6: other one's shoulder to see who else is out there
Speaker 6: that you want to say Hi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, less yeah. So I do love the idea though,
Speaker 5: of betting on the butt slap. Great idea, but but Joe,
Speaker 5: Let's say Joel Embiid goes in for a hug instead
Speaker 5: and Ben Simmons has to like back battle and say
Speaker 5: don't don't hug me and go in for the butt
Speaker 5: slap and run behind him and give him a butt slater.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, can you parlay these together?
Speaker 5: Can I go?
Speaker 2: Can I go hand slap into a hug with a
Speaker 2: butt slap and they may be a little playful punch.
Speaker 5: I'll be there. I'll be the Stewart here, I'll be
Speaker 5: the Brian blessing here, and you and say the Usually
Speaker 5: the betting the betting lines usually put a max on
Speaker 5: these because of.
Speaker 2: Bucksky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can bet some five smacks.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm not done, believe it or not. I
Speaker 2: got another one, this one I actually like.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: TNT mentioned Ben Simmons free throw shirt shooting during the broadcast. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: get your minus one forty no plus one hundred.
Speaker 5: I think you got good odds with the no on
Speaker 5: this way. I think it's way more likely they don't
Speaker 5: mention the.
Speaker 3: Free throwly he's not playing.
Speaker 5: When would free throw shooting come up?
Speaker 2: Anytime they shoot free throws? And then they show Ben Simmons, Well,
Speaker 2: luckily he's not out there, you know what they do, like,
Speaker 2: come on, Ben Simmons is going to come up even
Speaker 2: though he's not playing.
Speaker 5: No, really, wow, I don't think it's come up on
Speaker 5: any game that he's played that he's been sitting there.
Speaker 5: I know they're playing the Sixers, but what's what is
Speaker 5: the context? I don't get it. I just it doesn't
Speaker 5: really make sense to me he's not playing.
Speaker 2: I just think the boobirds are of course going to
Speaker 2: be out. The broadcast starts talking about, oh man, you
Speaker 2: imagine he was playing wood doctor for the hack a
Speaker 2: Ben you know anything?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: I have speculative though for him to be not playing.
Speaker 4: If he was playing, then I think.
Speaker 2: You guys are saying no, you like you get some
Speaker 2: good odds.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's part of the game. I don't
Speaker 5: think CNTs, Brian Anderson, stand Van Gunder, whoever is doing.
Speaker 5: I mean maybe if you're also.
Speaker 2: They gonna talk about for the whole game. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be showing Ben Simmons a million times on this broadcast.
Speaker 5: They're not going to talk about his lack of free
Speaker 5: throw shooting, not not Like what were they saying, Hey,
Speaker 5: I watched him practicing his free throw shooting.
Speaker 2: Yes, they might have who knows, they might have footage
Speaker 2: of him hitting.
Speaker 3: Free throws, warm up free throws.
Speaker 5: He's not doing.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: This is a tough one.
Speaker 4: We get that Grainy eiting a row from the free throw.
Speaker 7: Well, he's obviously been working on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so I'll take the null on
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 5: Okay, if it was on the call, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I just yeah, Brock Hackens, you think he would
Speaker 5: bring it up a strategy maybe, like if it was
Speaker 5: two Philly radio guys on the call. Of course they're
Speaker 5: talking about everything negative. But I think you know, I
Speaker 5: bring up ban Gundy and Anderson because they're national TV guys.
Speaker 5: They're not getting dirty here. Although I've seen stan Van
Speaker 5: Gundy shoot free throws great form, like great handles. If
Speaker 5: he brings up and says Bensimon should be trying to
Speaker 5: work on his game, practice free throws. Here's footage of
Speaker 5: me practicing my free throws, and they roll in stan Vanga.
Speaker 5: That's the only way I see them linking the two,
Speaker 5: which is I know it's it's good. Odds plus one
Speaker 5: hundred take it.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I'm betting yes on this. They got
Speaker 2: a long game and again, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of talk about Ben Simmons. There are free throws that
Speaker 2: happen in the game. It's gonna be what you got.
Speaker 4: Kevin Holland and Reggie Millis stefined.
Speaker 2: Reggie, Reggie for sure say it absolutely damn Gunny, I'm
Speaker 2: with you. Less likely, Reggie.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's gonna be a lot of free throws too. Yes,
Speaker 3: you got the stars back for the nuts.
Speaker 5: One's I still don't get it and Beads banging home
Speaker 5: a free throw. They go, that guy can hit free throws.
Speaker 5: You know who can't? That guy on the sideline, How
Speaker 5: do you know?
Speaker 2: How do you know the Sixers crowd isn't chanting something
Speaker 2: about Ben Simmons during a free throw and like then
Speaker 2: it's you know, yo, wow, could you remember they're doing
Speaker 2: this while he's on the bench. Iagine this guy was playing,
Speaker 2: like that's the obvious.
Speaker 5: It's not Ben Simmons free throw. Ben Simmons free throw
Speaker 5: shooting during the broadcast.
Speaker 3: This is that it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the Ben Simmons passed up a dunk highlight
Speaker 2: versus the Hawks be shown during the broadcast, yes, minus
Speaker 2: one fifty, no plus one ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know to prefer it to be shown, but
Speaker 4: this I can see being brought up.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't think they would show it?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got ready to go show Gilbert.
Speaker 4: It's a little defamatory and irrelevant to tonight's game.
Speaker 2: I think, okay, this is crazy they're doing all of this.
Speaker 3: This one's a lock. This one is a lock. Yes
Speaker 3: to me, this is dramas multiple times.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, because again because he's not playing.
Speaker 4: If he was playing, yes, but I think with him
Speaker 4: sitting on the side, it's just not going to help him.
Speaker 4: If it's like hey, on TV, they keep showing you
Speaker 4: missing that done, they.
Speaker 2: Have to show they have to look at it like
Speaker 2: someone's watching this game for the first time ever. They
Speaker 2: don't even know what basketball is, Like, why are they
Speaker 2: booing this? Guy, let's tell you why this is a
Speaker 2: part of this I.
Speaker 7: Might tell it.
Speaker 4: I just don't think they're going to show it myself.
Speaker 2: I think the only technicality technicality technicality is one trying
Speaker 2: to say here is like when is it shown? Is
Speaker 2: it shown prior to the tip probably if it is
Speaker 2: to be, and then does that count? Probably not here
Speaker 2: in the actual bet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. Weird one here from these odds that
Speaker 5: we got from our friend Jimmy Shapiro. There isn't that
Speaker 5: that caveat the caveat being in the prior one. They
Speaker 5: were talking about the free throw shooting during broadcast. The
Speaker 5: note was anytime from tip off to the end of the game.
Speaker 5: But that's not here because that's interesting because it definitely
Speaker 5: pre game. I think I could see them saying a
Speaker 5: pre game Yeah, they're sitting there sideline, Reggie Harlan, and
Speaker 5: it was a Harlow on the sideline, Stephan you ready, Stephan,
Speaker 5: You're ready? I mean she could be doing the yeah story, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: So the odds are better for yes, I mean, it's
Speaker 5: more likely that this is going to happen than free throws. Coah,
Speaker 5: I like it. I like this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey, you're on bored that they're going to show
Speaker 2: this highlight.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think we're going to see it multiple times
Speaker 3: per half.
Speaker 5: A lot.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a huge story. There's only two
Speaker 6: games on tonight. This is Ben simmons first time.
Speaker 3: Back in Philadelphia playing.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's why they're going to show Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: So they gonna show him yeah, because I think this
Speaker 5: is the number one thing that they would show.
Speaker 2: Are they going to show it on the jumbo tron?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I guess they're going to show it during the tnt
Speaker 5: pregame as well, right, yeah, yeah, so that doesn't classify
Speaker 5: for the bet H I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, final one. How many times and it just
Speaker 2: says here not full name Simmons is said during the broadcast,
Speaker 2: So I guess you don't technically need Bensimons. He's such
Speaker 2: a two dame guy too. It's weird to call him
Speaker 2: the Simmons to me. But the over under is set
Speaker 2: at six and a half.
Speaker 4: Smash the OVA smash.
Speaker 2: The over says this guy. Okay, Simmons will be said
Speaker 2: at least seven times during the game.
Speaker 5: I agree, smash okay, Oh, Reggie Miller might say it
Speaker 5: seven times in like five minutes.
Speaker 3: I would maybe go over if it was sixteen and
Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, Like, I mean six and a half
Speaker 3: is a sentence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hitting the over, especially now, I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once he's that bad, I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm locking in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll even mention the chance in the stands, they're
Speaker 5: chanting for Ben Simmons. I mean that's one. I mean
Speaker 5: they're gonna chance you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, back in the building for the first time since
Speaker 4: the trade, Ben Simmons on the bend.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, last time we.
Speaker 2: Saw Ben Simmons, imagine he was out there shooting free throws.
Speaker 2: So I cannot imagine that. Hey, let's show you this
Speaker 2: highlight he te player. Oh there's Ben Simmons passing up
Speaker 2: and donk it's already up to four.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Look, we're having some fun with this. I just hope
Speaker 2: nobody crosses any sort of line tonight in terms of
Speaker 2: like the fans in attendant, Hey.
Speaker 3: Boom all you want, Like, yeah, boom all you want.
Speaker 2: But you know, it was just don't get any crazy.
Speaker 2: It's like trying to get close to them. The games
Speaker 2: where you can cross the line. Where's somebody, where's the game?
Speaker 7: It's in Philadeph Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be Okay. You think you can't bet on
Speaker 2: whether a battery is thrown today?
Speaker 4: When Vince car when you went to your first Vince
Speaker 4: Carter game in Toronto?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well just you know talk, Oh yeah it was.
Speaker 7: Did you cross any lines?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, did I personally lines?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean I was up in
Speaker 2: the nosebleeds.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing you've got to get. The Sixers
Speaker 4: have got to get this booze out of their system tonight,
Speaker 4: right great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, look I'm betting on the boo him.
Speaker 5: Okay, tell me if this is crossing the line. I
Speaker 5: yelled this at Vince after he kicked the raptors ass.
Speaker 5: I yelled, you'll never win anything, Vince. It's like crossing
Speaker 5: the line.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 4: No, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Fine, it's kind of light, no effects.
Speaker 4: You're going into any personal details or anything like that.
Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, but how many times did
Speaker 4: Vince like hit the game winner? Oh? Yeah, the dunk?
Speaker 4: Remember the Alue dunk and over time as well.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 4: He was so remember when pat Riley went back to
Speaker 4: New York the first time when he when he joined
Speaker 4: the Heat and he came out and.
Speaker 3: He was like, come on, bring it on, Simmons.
Speaker 4: He decided to go full heel tonight and be like me,
Speaker 4: it would be nice.
Speaker 2: It'd be awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't think.
Speaker 2: It would be great.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if he does a sort of
Speaker 4: light yeah, all right, like an acknowledgement, and I think
Speaker 4: he's gonna be like.
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't no, probably not. Okay, we'll find out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very exciting. So one of only two games on tonight,
Speaker 2: it's the big one on TNC. It's gonna be one
Speaker 2: hell of a story.
Speaker 3: Just a guy.
Speaker 2: Sitting there on the bench and then the actual game.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, uh, yeah, there's a game.
Speaker 2: There's some some firepower in this game too. Uh Do
Speaker 2: I have it right? Durant and Kyrie are playing in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia tonight.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's good to know.
Speaker 2: And uh, obviously embiid and and the rest of his
Speaker 2: squad on the Sixers there. Okay't wait, we'll get to
Speaker 2: the actual pick for that game when we get to
Speaker 2: pick them. We gotta take one more break. We tweeted
Speaker 2: the night as well, don't go anywhere? All right, back
Speaker 2: with the boys here, it's time for a tweet of
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 5: Tweed of the Night? Wow, TWT, what do you got?
Speaker 6: A bit of a what you got here for? Tweet
Speaker 6: of the night comes to us from Sean You along
Speaker 6: with a clip from his s Tears podcast alongside Zach
Speaker 6: Schwartz Seawan tweets. So Zach asked a great question earlier today,
Speaker 6: would you rather smoke weed with Don Nelson or drink
Speaker 6: wine with Greg Oh?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: My choice here is obvious.
Speaker 6: Yeah, smoke weed every day in Hawaii while wearing fish ties.
Speaker 3: Come on, it's the perfect. But I want to hear
Speaker 3: your guys' thoughts, and I'm gonna throw in a.
Speaker 6: Couple of extra choices because you can usually put four
Speaker 6: things on a pole, which we're gonna have up here
Speaker 6: in the stream.
Speaker 3: Team.
Speaker 6: So, would you rather smoke weed with Don Nelson, drink
Speaker 6: wine with Greg Popovic? Do peote with Phil Jackson? Or
Speaker 6: smoke a fat.
Speaker 3: Stogy with Red Hourbach? Get your votes in?
Speaker 2: Who wel ahead?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to go through the process of elimination
Speaker 4: because a cigar is always fun at the time, but
Speaker 4: it just like you feel like ass the next morning.
Speaker 7: It's gross, but it's cool, And I.
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, I want to be here with Red
Speaker 4: having a big, old fat cigar. So nope, Phil Jackson's cool.
Speaker 4: I don't really know what that entails, to be honest.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so it comes down to the other two. Now,
Speaker 4: don Nels. I think Ethan Strauss actually did do this.
Speaker 7: And smoked with him.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what he said about it, actually, but
Speaker 4: that would Yeah, it's a tough one, but I think
Speaker 4: I'm going Popovich. I just think I I'd love to
Speaker 4: sit down with him over a couple of glasses of
Speaker 4: red and just talk and laugh and joke because when
Speaker 4: Pop is away from being the pop that we see
Speaker 4: on the sidelines and on TV, I think he's a
Speaker 4: lot more entertaining, a lot more engaging, and you know,
Speaker 4: he would have some hilarious stories. I mean, don Nelson
Speaker 4: would have some incredible stories as well, but I think
Speaker 4: don Nelson could get a little good sort of off. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I saw the clip of Sean and Zach
Speaker 2: talking about this. Sean was making some good points, like
Speaker 2: how many glasses are wine. You have to get into
Speaker 2: Pop where then he's opening up and he's maybe telling
Speaker 2: you all the stories you want to hear. Don Nelson,
Speaker 2: you're smoking weed with him in Hawaii, especially like he's
Speaker 2: off and running, I'm sure right away, like before you've
Speaker 2: even lit the thing, like you're hearing the story. So
Speaker 2: that's maybe an advantage for don Nelson. But Sean also
Speaker 2: pointed out Popovich is known for his like extensive wine collection.
Speaker 2: He might be getting into some good bottles. Yeah, do
Speaker 2: you like wine?
Speaker 5: You like wine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well only when that's a plus for that's a
Speaker 2: plus for Pop. I'd say, not that don Nelson has
Speaker 2: a shitty weed.
Speaker 3: But doesn't have his own straight Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: But I just think, you know you, I mean, Pop's
Speaker 2: probably got very very fine taste in one, You're gonna
Speaker 2: get some good bottles, I think.
Speaker 4: So I'm just making a case Poop and JD are
Speaker 4: actually quite similar.
Speaker 7: You know, they've got that sort of grumpiness. But once
Speaker 7: you get j D away from the show a.
Speaker 4: Couple of ye reds and ah yeah, then he opens
Speaker 4: up and you know he's he's a lot more entertaining.
Speaker 4: So I think yeah, I think you're not entertaining.
Speaker 5: Sounds like this is.
Speaker 4: Really like a pop after the at the in between
Speaker 4: quarter interviews. You know, you're grumpy, you don't want to
Speaker 4: have to do this. Let's just get through the show.
Speaker 4: But once the show is done, there's a bottle of
Speaker 4: wine there. Then JD's like a little bit more.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, So so what do you you going
Speaker 2: with here? Of those four trades thrown out?
Speaker 5: The psychedelics are so hot right now. I'm doing it
Speaker 5: with philm I think, and I think you're.
Speaker 2: On a ranch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's it's just the best of both worlds.
Speaker 5: I don't need to drink more wine. Don't care if
Speaker 5: this is a vintage nineteen oh four, I don't care.
Speaker 5: And you know, the don Nelson experience would be great.
Speaker 5: The Ethan Strauss article on that phenomenal, So that makes sense.
Speaker 5: The stogy thing, Yeah, I mean that would be cool too.
Speaker 5: I think all four men the experiences that would be great.
Speaker 5: I think they would all open I mean they'd all
Speaker 5: open up immediately. But I think the experience of the psychedelics,
Speaker 5: I'm rolling with that. And I don't think we're going
Speaker 5: too hard as well, because He's a seventy six year
Speaker 5: old man. He knows, he knows where he's going. You
Speaker 5: know how much to you know, we're microdosing, I think
Speaker 5: at first, and then yeah, we'll have a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm just afraid you're gonna do it with Phil Jackson.
Speaker 2: Then you're not gonna remember a single thing, and you
Speaker 2: may not even be really talking to Phil Jackson once
Speaker 2: you're on Paoti's. That's my only knock on that one.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 2: Let's hear from you. You're drinking with Greg Popovich, smoking
Speaker 2: weed with Don Nelson Paoti with Phil Jackson, or smoking
Speaker 2: a cigar with Red.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with Leah, it's Pops for sure. Okay, I
Speaker 8: think that he would. I don't think that it would
Speaker 8: take any time for him to relax, because, you know,
Speaker 8: I imagine it's in his sort of wine room or whatever.
Speaker 8: He's already relaxed. He's wearing his smoking jacket or whatever,
Speaker 8: and he's you're already the ritual of opening the bottle
Speaker 8: of wine and smelling it and swirling it. He's already
Speaker 8: he's in his elements exactly so, And uh, yeah, he
Speaker 8: seems like a softy at heart and smart guy. You know,
Speaker 8: he seems like a good guy to argue with. I
Speaker 8: love an argue, I love debating, I love just playing
Speaker 8: devil's advocate, just getting under people's skin.
Speaker 5: So I would enjoy that with Pops.
Speaker 2: I think you're suddenly talking about the Obi Wan Kenobi
Speaker 2: trailer and the promise.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah of it?
Speaker 2: Okay, well so do we have that pull up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: On the stream team? All right, get your votes in everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now. We got forty five percent want to.
Speaker 2: Don Nelson, Yeah, Greg Popov.
Speaker 6: Greg twenty seven for Don, twenty two for Phil, and
Speaker 6: only seven percent want to smoke a cigar with red hours.
Speaker 2: He's he's also well, he's also a ghost.
Speaker 3: Ghost.
Speaker 2: Uh pick results last night, Raptors Spurs have more votes then, Yeah,
Speaker 2: smoke a star with a ghost. Put it that way?
Speaker 3: Sorry? Cool, right, we changed it.
Speaker 2: Rap Spurs Toronto favored by one and a half on
Speaker 2: the road, and as we talked about, prevented Greg Popovich
Speaker 2: from setting the all time record in wins. This brought
Speaker 2: to you by bet MGM. So that's a victory for me,
Speaker 2: it's a victory for Tasks, a victory for Trey Lee
Speaker 2: swerved took pop it fell to uh suddenly last place. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in the in the pick and battle here you're two
Speaker 2: and five, Tray three and four on four and three
Speaker 2: and Tat is five and two. So it's uh, very
Speaker 2: very close still. But what's tonight's game?
Speaker 5: There's a game in Philadelphia. Yes, that should be a
Speaker 5: fun one. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers are favored by
Speaker 5: four and a half over the Brooklyn Nets, and surprisingly
Speaker 5: we're splitsville on this one. Yeah. I thought most of
Speaker 5: us would be on the Sixers, but myself and Lee
Speaker 5: taking the Nets. Where do you think the Nets are
Speaker 5: going to cover four points?
Speaker 2: Lee?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I went back and forth a bit on this one.
Speaker 4: I can sort of see an actually like a Sixer's
Speaker 4: massive blowout. Then I'm also like Kevin Durant's got some
Speaker 4: beef there with Mbi Kyrie again, he's having came off
Speaker 4: a great performance and him and James Harden there's going
Speaker 4: to be a bit of beef there. So I'm hoping
Speaker 4: that the Nets can keep it close enough. But I
Speaker 4: think the Sixers win the game.
Speaker 2: Oh you do it?
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Give me four points. I think it's less than that,
Speaker 4: but who knows. I can't pick my nose right now,
Speaker 4: So who knows how it's going to go.
Speaker 2: It's good and try any reasoning why you're taking Philly.
Speaker 3: I just think they're better. Yeah, yeah, they're playing incredibly well.
Speaker 6: They've got a better, deeper team, and I think it's
Speaker 6: going to mean a lot to Philly to rub.
Speaker 3: It in Brooklyn's faces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's gonna be fun to see how
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets players playing take this one to heart, though,
Speaker 2: like for their new teammate and Ben Simmons try to
Speaker 2: shut up the crowd.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: You know, they come out and smack him in the
Speaker 2: first quarter and that takes a lot of the steam
Speaker 2: out of the booing. Ben Simmons sin, yeah.
Speaker 4: And Kevin Durant, I mean that's the thing. He would
Speaker 4: love this atmosphere. Yeah, yeah, villain him and Joel he
Speaker 4: can go out and.
Speaker 5: Harden also left them as well, So that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's truely.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Steve Nash said they had some interesting comments about that, right,
Speaker 2: like whether they would but slap.
Speaker 5: Each other, whether yeah, whether yeah. He was asked whether
Speaker 5: Nash would talk to heart Yeah, he said, I don't
Speaker 5: think I'm gonna you left them cool.
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Speaker 2: photo of him wearing his iverson's and his AI wristband
Speaker 2: watching the game, Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Did you think about turning it the other way so
Speaker 5: you can read it? Or is that because you want
Speaker 5: to read it to watch?
Speaker 7: He war is why?
Speaker 4: But he actually had it on his on his left
Speaker 4: arm because he had his sleeve on that one, so
Speaker 4: I couldn't see it, and I though, I'll can't put
Speaker 4: on that one, and I let's see it.
Speaker 2: Smart. All right, guys, if you are a Survivor fan
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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to you guys, just breaking it down. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're a lot of stuff happened.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of stuff Chuck Bowls, with so
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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. And remember a lot of great
Speaker 5: comments from the stream team here talking about whether they
Speaker 5: would rather smoke a cigar with red Arbuck or smoke
Speaker 5: a cigar with the Ghosts. Most people picked ghost over
Speaker 5: living red Arback was weird. A lot of people picked
Speaker 5: making gravy with Lee Ellis or smashing Nana's with Lee Ellis.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be fun. We can make that happen.
Speaker 7: Making Grave on the show, well, just.
Speaker 2: Like we could raise a bunch of money for charity,
Speaker 2: you know, highest bid gets to make gravy with.
Speaker 7: You, gravy soup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 7: It was a great yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Braced their people,