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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a Tennessee deputy in a

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Speaker 1: coma and on a ventilator fighting for his life after

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Speaker 1: a brutal attack. When he answers the call along with

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Speaker 1: be dragged out of bush's his head believing and ends

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Speaker 1: up fighting for his life. Why good evening, I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with.

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Speaker 2: Us for years.

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Speaker 3: A Deputy Dalton Swinger served with unwavering dedication at the

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Speaker 3: Knox County Sheriff's Office, a steady force protecting his community,

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Speaker 3: but one faithful call would thrust him and his team

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Speaker 3: into a life threatening confrontation that would change everything.

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Speaker 1: We are being told that Swanger needs a very complicated

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Speaker 1: and complex surgery that is offered at just a handful

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Speaker 1: He's going to have to have a tracheal re section

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Speaker 1: because of a brutal injury he obtained on duty. And

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Speaker 1: this is where it all starts.

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Speaker 4: Listen Saturday night, ten fifteen pm, Knox County, Tennessee. Nine

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Speaker 4: one one gets a report of shots fired on Stanley

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Speaker 4: road deputies, followed by On Patrol Live TV show camera crew,

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Speaker 4: are greeted onseen by a woman claiming she has a

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Speaker 4: crazy X and pointing officers toward a wooded area, announcing

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Speaker 4: from the woods curses the deputies and begins throwing rocks.

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Speaker 5: Call about shots fired in Knox County, Tennessee, but as

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Speaker 5: he searched the perimeter of the woods, the here noises.

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Speaker 5: Deputy Dalton Swanger investigates further heads into the brush. He's

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Speaker 5: armed and he has no idea.

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Speaker 1: What's a waiting from our friends at On Patrol Live.

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Speaker 1: And this is where we're getting a really exact look

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Speaker 1: at what happened that night. And there's more.

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Speaker 3: The dark wooded area provides cover for the suspect, who

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Speaker 3: claims to have a gun as he is throwing rocks

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Speaker 3: at officers. Deputy spread out searching the perimeter, preventing the

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Speaker 3: suspect from running and getting away. Deputy Swinger goes into

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Speaker 3: the trees. The trees and brush prevent a clear view,

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Speaker 3: and Swinger tells the suspect show me your hands. It's

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Speaker 3: an ambush. As the suspect nail Swinger with a rock.

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Speaker 1: Imagine what it takes, day in, day out to go

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Speaker 1: their armed Yet you, Deputy Swinger, go in anyway because

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Speaker 1: it's your job. You don't question what could be in

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Speaker 1: the bushes, what could be in the dark the boogeyman

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Speaker 1: you can't see. You do your duty, and that's what

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Speaker 1: he did.

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Speaker 4: Listen, officers hear the ambush and see movement in the trees.

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Speaker 4: Then a thud has heard. His Deputy Swanger is hit

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Speaker 4: full force on top of his head and falls to

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Speaker 4: got knocked out. It was something hard. Fellow officers have

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Speaker 4: to drag the deputy from the woods and out of

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Speaker 4: the trees. A bloody gash can be clearly seen on

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Speaker 4: the deputy's head.

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Speaker 1: I want you to see what happened immediately after the attack.

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Speaker 6: Show me your pens. Who are you knocked out?

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Speaker 1: Anything that was from on patrol Lie to doctor Kendall

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Speaker 1: Crown's joining as Chief Medical Examiner Terrent County. He is

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Speaker 1: esteemed lecturer at the Burnet School of Medicine at TCU

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Speaker 1: at star of a hit podcast, Mayhem and the Morgue

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Speaker 1: Dodger Kimdl Crowns, thank you for being with us. Whenever

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Speaker 1: I hear the word a sud in connection with a

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Speaker 1: human body, it's never good. So how could Deputy Swanger

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Speaker 7: When he was hit with the rock, he got a

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Speaker 7: what is called a depressed skull fracture, which means it

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Speaker 7: that happens, it bruises the brain. But much like a

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Speaker 7: because that bleeding in his brain wasn't severe enough that

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, remember we're just lay people, okay. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how you get hit on the outside of

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Speaker 7: It's the hit to the head causes energy or kinetic

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Speaker 1: Guys, I want you to brace yourself. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: show you video. Let's see it. Control room deputies arrived

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Speaker 1: to a nine to one one call of shots fired.

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Speaker 1: They go around the residence and a woman directs them

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Speaker 1: toward the woods. Deputy Swinger is about there. She is

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Speaker 1: directing him back to the woods, and they know the

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Speaker 1: perk could be armed, and what do they do. They

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Speaker 1: There's a guy in there with a weapon according to

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Speaker 1: another deputy watching. Now see the circle showing where Swinger

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Speaker 1: on Patrol Live. Doctor Kendle Crowns. How is it? He

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Speaker 7: which causes the brain to swell. And when the brain's swelling,

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Speaker 7: it's starting to compromise those functions of your body that

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Speaker 7: our brainstem, which covered our brainstem which handles heart rate

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Speaker 1: Guys, you've seen the video, you've heard the story, and

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Speaker 1: now I want you to meet the man who goes

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Speaker 1: find an armed purp. He is putting on a brave

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Speaker 1: and now he is looking at a very, very extensive

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Speaker 1: and complicated a complex surgery called a tracheal re section,

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Speaker 1: joining me along with his fiance, Stefania Pumphrey. Deputy Dalton Swanger, Deputy,

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Speaker 1: thank you for.

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Speaker 8: Being with us, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Man, Deputy Swanger, you're a medical miracle. When I learned

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Speaker 1: I was floored. I mean, I know you're presenting a

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Speaker 1: little bit of what you've been through and what you're facing. Deputy.

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Speaker 1: What can you remember that night that changed your life forever?

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Speaker 2: So my partner, now Kursher, we were working patrol. I

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Speaker 2: So we ended up canceling the other an it's going

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Speaker 2: they seemed, you know, they were very startled and stressed.

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Speaker 2: And then we went to the woodline where the alleged

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Speaker 8: You see, you know, I could tell something was wrong.

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Speaker 2: He was very emotionally elevated, extremely just you know, through

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Speaker 2: night vision, but it was just pitch dark. And so

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Speaker 8: So we you know, that's when I turned my.

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Speaker 2: Light off, because you don't want to paint yourself as

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Speaker 2: a target when you're in the woods. And I thought

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Speaker 2: and I started hearing things winding around us, and when

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Speaker 2: next thing I know, it's like the green firework just

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Speaker 2: describe it. Just looked like a green starburst were the

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Speaker 2: most overwhelming pain in the top of my head, and

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Speaker 2: my entire body locks up, and I'm blackout for what

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Speaker 2: like an entire body cramp amos. And I remember thinking

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Speaker 2: Kercher walks over and he asked me if I can

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Speaker 2: in my hand and I remember Bristeman's hand as far

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Speaker 8: I'm still you know, something pouring over my head. I say,

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Speaker 9: And so as I'm being drugged out of the woods,

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Speaker 9: hold on, just a moment, just a moment with me, guys,

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Speaker 9: is Deputy Dalton Swinger, Nots County Sheriff's Office, who was

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Speaker 9: putting on a brave front tonight, but he is awaiting

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Speaker 9: immediate and necessary life saving surgery.

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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what his friend and fellow

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Speaker 1: deputy Matt Kirchner said.

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Speaker 10: I love the Rocky drew in it and art. I

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Speaker 10: didn't realize that a first, because I thought it was

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Speaker 7: I heard das Swinger.

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Speaker 1: And straight out to Deputy Dalton Swanger's partner, Deputy Matthew Kirschner,

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Speaker 1: his former partner Deputy Kirchner, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: When I saw that video from w ATE, it was

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Speaker 1: the Knox County Court video of you testifying at a

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Speaker 1: preliminary hearing, my chest just seized up, my throat just

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Speaker 1: felt like I swallowed a lump of coal. At first

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a rock hitting the ground. A

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Speaker 1: few seconds later I heard my partner groaning. I saw

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Speaker 1: him lying on the ground. What happened from your perspective

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Speaker 1: that night, Deputy Kirchner.

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Speaker 10: Uh, during the Originally, when I first happened, I got

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Speaker 3: Knox County was no stranger to the public eye, making

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Speaker 1: Deputy Dalton Swanger is joining us tonight and in a

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, it was something that I did take for granted

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Speaker 4: While still on Zeene after being injured, Dalton seems all right.

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Speaker 1: A doctor at Kendel Crowns what is a ventilator? Explain?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I watched her lives.

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Speaker 8: We don't know if he's going to be okay, and

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Speaker 11: For bears, We're going to get you back here to

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Speaker 1: Wait, let me says to Fini again. Whoa wa, whoa

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Speaker 1: Okay. They told you he's having a grandma seizure and

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Speaker 11: The last I heard was that he had totally he

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. This is like everyone's worst nightmare,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, I'm so glad you're with us tonight

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Speaker 7: So grand all seizure is a large seizure where the

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Speaker 1: when you get to the hospital, that's when you learn

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Speaker 11: Yes, it was a couple hours still before I learned.

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Speaker 1: When you saw him, Stefan, yeah, describe what you saw.

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Speaker 8: He was still shaking a little bit and he wasn't.

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Speaker 11: He had the breathing to even he was covered in blood,

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Speaker 11: He was still it looked to me like his body

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Speaker 8: I'll never forget seeing him for the first time like that.

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Speaker 8: I told him I loved him, and and I told

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Speaker 8: I wasn't going to leave aside, we were going to

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Speaker 11: I just wanted him to know that he wasn't alone

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Speaker 2: So that is one of the biggest things I think

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Speaker 2: You just have to be breathing. You have to keep breathing,

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Speaker 2: So the parts that the hard part was because you're

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Speaker 8: Back and them like, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 2: moments I did have that we're really comporting with Sefami,

438
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: I was like to hear her. She's constantly saying I'm here,

439
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: I'm here, I mean, and so as alone as I

440
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: was in my head in all these terrific just traumatic hallucinations, nightmatters,

441
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, it felt really nice

442
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: to hear her say I'm here.

443
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes, responding to reports of gunfire, Deputy Swinger entered a

444
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: wooded area in pursuit of an armed suspect. Under the

445
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: cover of darkness. He disappeared into the trees, unaware that

446
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 3: within moments his life would be in danger.

447
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: After everything that we have seen and her tonight, this

448
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: is a miracle, A miracle that Deputy Dalton Swanger is alive,

449
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: A miracle that his partner, Deputy Matthew Kirscher is alive,

450
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: who has now had his own injury. Deputy Kirchner, what

451
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: was going through your mind as you see Dalton falling?

452
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: He can't stand up. You guys are dragging him away.

453
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 10: I was, I was in shock, but I was in

454
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 10: I was in survival, survival mode at that point point

455
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 10: when I saw him fall. I mean why I didn't

456
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 10: see him fall, but when I realized he fell and

457
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 10: he was on the ground, getting him out of there

458
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 10: was my number one thing. And the hardest part for

459
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 10: me on this whole thing is after we drug him

460
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 10: out and I had to leave him with a fellow

461
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 10: deputy instead of tending to him and that he's my

462
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 10: best friend. So it really killed me seeing him like that.

463
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: We're showing video right now from our friends at Peacock's

464
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: on Patrol Live. I've swung or trying to stand there,

465
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: he goes, there, he goes. They can't do it. They

466
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: have to literally drag him away and all over what

467
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Dave MATC Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave this was all

468
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: about a SHOT's fired. They go out there and risk

469
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: their lives over.

470
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: What Dave mac nanthy, it was actually a domestic argument

471
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: between Hensley and his girlfriend. That's what they were. The

472
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: shots fired call domestic violence. They didn't know exactly what

473
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: was on tap for them when they got there, but

474
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: that's actually what was going on. Hensley was drunk and

475
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: he smacked his girlfriend and they called nine to one one.

476
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: That's what began all of this.

477
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: You know, I just to you, w Matthew Kushner. I

478
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: don't think people get it, And you know what, Kirshner,

479
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad they don't get it, because if they did

480
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: get it, it would mean that they're exposed to crime

481
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: every like we are. And I don't want that for

482
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: other people. I want them to live in a bubble. Right,

483
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: So people like you and Swanger and me and so

484
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: many other people, we hear it for them, right, Yes,

485
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: But when you go out on something as simple as

486
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: a domestic or should be simple, but very rarely is

487
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: it simple, you can end up dead, Dad kurtsher over what.

488
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 10: Well, Unfortunately, domestics are like the most dangerous calls you

489
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 10: could possibly go on. The emotion levels are always higher

490
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 10: when people are fighting with the people they love. We

491
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 10: didn't know that's what we were dealing with. We just

492
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 10: thought we were dealing with somebody that was had shot

493
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 10: off some rounds and clearly was very intoxicated. Way he

494
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 10: was talking and yelling at us honestly had no point

495
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 10: that I expect rocks to be thrown at us. After

496
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 10: I got struck and then Dalton got struck and the

497
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 10: way he was out, I just never imagined that. In

498
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 10: every scenario I've been doing this for twenty seven years,

499
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 10: in every scenario I could play back in my head,

500
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 10: rock being hit in the head would be the last

501
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 10: one that I would think of.

502
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: It has been described as a thud. You heard a thud,

503
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: and what that was was this huge rock being slammed

504
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: into Dalton's head. Described that sound.

505
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 10: It It actually sounded like a huge rock hitting the

506
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 10: ground like a you know, it's just a sound that

507
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 10: it didn't bounce or anything. It just stuck. And that

508
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 10: sound was it hitting Dalton's head.

509
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: And when I say for what for what? All this for?

510
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: What?

511
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about a domestic ament. On plenty of

512
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: domestics where the woman was practically killed all right. This

513
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: guy had his bottom revote on a theft by shoplifting

514
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and fifteen hundred marijuana plants found in the home, and

515
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: here he is hiding in the bushes. You think he's armed,

516
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: and he attacks Swanger. That's why I'm saying a POC

517
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: technical legal term. This should have already been behind bars.

518
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: He's growing pot in his house for Pete's sake, according

519
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: to charges manufacturing delivering drugs. Yeah, he should have already

520
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: been in jail and then allegedly hits Swanger and lands

521
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: him in a coma. I mean, Deputy Swinger, when you

522
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: went out, what was in your mind if you can

523
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: remember when you go into those bushes, I mean, you

524
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: thought the guy might be armed, but you went into

525
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: the bushes into the woods anyway.

526
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: So it's a really chaotic thing and kind of has

527
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: Dipping Herscher explained. You know, we're constantly trained to assess threats,

528
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: and that's always what your mind is, especially in a

529
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: very vulnerable moment like that when you can't see, you're

530
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: an unfamiliar territory of the woods are super hard to navigating.

531
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 8: You don't know if you're going to step in, and

532
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 8: he did it.

533
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: The ground trip over a branch, get caught on the leads,

534
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: so you're trying to navigate the drain. You're trying to

535
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: see the threat, but it's so dark you can't turn

536
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: on your light because they din't give a beacon if

537
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: he does have a gun to where he could shoot,

538
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: and if I don't, if I recall correctly, I believe

539
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: you say. He even taunts us to turn our lights

540
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: back on. So that's making you think, like, oh, he

541
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: could be wanting to shoot. And then the way you

542
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: never don't think. I never until this perceive was a

543
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: threat coming from above on top of your head. And

544
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: so that is you know, you're scanning for like a

545
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: three sixty round you but you never picture something coming

546
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: down and hitting your head. So it was just just

547
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: like every other call, you're trying to assess the threat

548
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: and what's going on there. But in this particular situation,

549
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: we were in a complete starfus.

550
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: A prayer vigil is held for Dalton while he's in

551
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: the ICU. Organized by the community, the prayer vigil was

552
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: held at the UT Medical Center in an effort to

553
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 4: show support for Dalton and his family.

554
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Suddenly chaos.

555
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: Deputy Swinger is struck in the head with a large rock,

556
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: he collapses to the ground. In ripping footage, his fellow

557
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: deputies are seen dragging into safety a desperate race against

558
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 3: time to save one of their.

559
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: Own, while he is putting on a brave face. Tonight

560
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: along with fiance Stefania Pomphrey, he is facing very comprehensive

561
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: and complex surgery.

562
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: Listen Dalton now suffers complications that stem from being on

563
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: the ventilator while in a coma trachyll stenosis. This narrow

564
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: of the trachea could be from Dalton having to be

565
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: forcefully intubated while he was having seizures, or possibly by

566
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: the breathing tube. He has already had three unsuccessful surgeries

567
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 4: and the next surgery he faces is very dangerous and

568
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: has an extremely long recovery time, and that is only

569
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: after they can find a hospital with a highly specialized

570
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: group known as a Complex Airway team.

571
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: A Complex Airway Team, Doctor Killer Crowns.

572
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 7: What is that so in this situation where the individual

573
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 7: or the officer sorry has a post intubation syndrome where

574
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 7: he's basically the tissue of his trachea was damaged from

575
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 7: the intubation and it's basically closing up and making his

576
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 7: airway smaller and smaller and smaller. They have to do

577
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 7: something to open that back up so he can breathe properly.

578
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 7: A complex airway team is one that's going to probably

579
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 7: take a pararion.

580
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: Crowns, crowns, crowns. I know in Milescale English, you had

581
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: the teacher write a sentence in dissected. Here's the verb,

582
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: here's the noun, here's the adjective average, Okay, slow it

583
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: down then all right? No problem was also very bad

584
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: when you have to have it, When you have to

585
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: have the ventilator, it goes down your track, your trich

586
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: you right here, I think, okay, And when you have

587
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: the ventilator forced down your trichia, it damages the trichia

588
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: or can damage the trich you. So yes, what would

589
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: that damage be? For instance, with swinger, what is the damage?

590
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: How bad can it be?

591
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 7: So your mucoastal membranes like your mouth are very very

592
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 7: easily disrupted or damage, And you're pushing this tube into

593
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 7: the throw while someone's seizing, and that damage can be

594
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: a rubbing away of the mucoastal lining, basically making an

595
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 7: ulcer and ulceration, and he has this tube in it

596
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 7: throat for a period of time and that ulceration can't heal.

597
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 7: So how it heals is by scarring, and the scarring

598
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 7: itself can become so bad that it will decrease the

599
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 7: airway and that is what has happened to the officers.

600
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 7: His scarring from the intubation has decreased his airway space,

601
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 7: making it hard for him to breathe. And what they're

602
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 7: going to have to do is take a piece of

603
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 7: his trachea out and try and attach the unaffected areas

604
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 7: of his trachea back together, which is called an anastmosis,

605
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 7: or potentially do a reconstruction where they use Carlage graphs

606
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: or synthetic material to try and rebuild the area.

607
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, a deputy Dogg and Swanger

608
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: and Stefania. You may need to help him because I

609
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to tell me to try.

610
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: When you think about the fact you've already had three

611
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: very complex surgeries and now you have this ahead of you,

612
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: how are you holding up?

613
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: It's extremely mentally daunting, because you know, we were at

614
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: a point where you're like, oh, you know the TBI

615
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: out received GCS three, which is the most severe classification

616
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: you can get. I was like out of the frying pan,

617
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: but now it feels like I'm kind of in the

618
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: fire it. So it is extremely mentally daunting thinking of

619
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: them cutting a portion of your airway out. But you know,

620
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: I've relied heavily in my faith, and you know, relied

621
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: heavily on God for this, and that's problem and drinking Stevania.

622
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: I understand that there are only a few hospitals that

623
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: perform this is it because it's very dangerous and complex.

624
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 11: His is a unique case because of how quickly the

625
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 11: scar tissue is growing again. You're supposed to the surgeries

626
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 11: that he had that were unsuccessful, they're supposed to last

627
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 11: one to two months if they don't fix the problem,

628
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 11: and his were lasting maybe a week where he could

629
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 11: breathe slightly easier, and then he would just feel like

630
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 11: he was suffocating again and it would close up further.

631
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 11: So he's a pretty unique case. And it's also really

632
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 11: close to his vote, So it's just more complex than

633
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 11: what a normal caiece would be.

634
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: When it's very close to.

635
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 10: Is what.

636
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 8: Vocal courts. It's two centimeters below, so.

637
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: If anything goes wrong, he won't be able to speak.

638
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: W Kurtscher. I understand that since Swanger incident, you had

639
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: a head on Collis with a fleeting suspect.

640
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 10: Is that right, yes, ma'am. I was a passenger of

641
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 10: my trope bar with my training was driving. Yes.

642
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: And you are facing an upcoming surgery as well.

643
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 10: I've had three surgeries so far and I have a

644
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 10: very large surgery coming up on October thirtieth. What is

645
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 10: the surgery? My injury was a shattered ankle. I had

646
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 10: all three bones in the ankle shattered, but none of

647
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 10: the healing. None of the bones are healing, and after

648
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 10: several consultations and recommendation, my ankles to be amputated on

649
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 10: the thirtieth.

650
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: What is your frame of mind, Deputy Kursher.

651
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 10: It's an emotional roller coaster. I am trying to imagine

652
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 10: life without a foot. It's something that I never could imagine.

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Speaker 10: My pain is unbearable every single day of It's a

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Speaker 10: relief to know that that pain will be gone. But

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Speaker 10: I'm very sad that I'm losing my foot, and I

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Speaker 10: wish there was something else that could be done. But

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Speaker 10: doesn't seem like that's possible.

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Speaker 1: When you joined the force, Kirchner, did you ever imagine

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Speaker 1: this would happen?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think anybody ever joins the force thinking

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Speaker 10: something's going to happen. You know, I went twenty seven

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Speaker 10: years before it happened. I've been very lucky. I'm blessed.

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Speaker 10: The agency that I work for has been fantastic, and

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Speaker 10: everybody around me has been great. But I never thought

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Speaker 10: that this would happen. Never.

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Speaker 1: Deputy Kirschner facing his own serious surgery, the amputation from

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Speaker 1: the ankle down after a head on collision with a

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Speaker 1: fleeing suspect. I'm donating to his GoFundMe and if you

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Speaker 1: feel so moved, it's on go fundme. Blue Line Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Ink Support Knox County Deputy Matthew Matt Kirchner k I

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Speaker 1: R C H N E R. He would never ask

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Speaker 1: for it on his own. I we researched it. He

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Speaker 1: did not ask us to do this. To Deputy Dalton Swinger,

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Speaker 1: You're facing a life threatening, extensive and complex surgery. What

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Speaker 1: is your frame of mind?

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Speaker 8: The way I'm getting it, the way I'm encroaching it.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm relied very heavily in my face,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to you it's a positive thing that

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Speaker 2: God's given me a chance to see like what I'm

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Speaker 2: made of and Albasilia, I can be and I will

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Speaker 2: approach this in the absolute mindset that as painful and

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Speaker 2: growing as this is, being allowed from underneath it, do

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Speaker 2: whatever it.

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Speaker 8: Takes to get back to having a badge on the chifs.

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Speaker 2: And so it's terrifying, but I know, for landma heart,

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Speaker 2: no matter what happens and how bad it iss, I

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Speaker 2: want to get back to doing all love Swinger.

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Speaker 1: One more thing. You were telling me that when you

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Speaker 1: were in a coma, or when you're about to go

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Speaker 1: into a coma, you were hearing I believe you said

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Speaker 1: a fellow deputy. I don't know if it was real,

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Speaker 1: if it was in your mind telling you you have

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Speaker 1: to keep breathing, listen, how did you make yourself keep breathing?

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Speaker 10: And the visualization.

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Speaker 2: I was in a concrete hallway and it was almost

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Speaker 2: like a or maybe it's like it was like flickering lights,

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Speaker 2: and I was surrounded by just you know, gray man surgeons.

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Speaker 8: Kind of without a face.

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Speaker 2: And I was in this hospital bit and I remember

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Speaker 2: just oring sweat, and there's a death you saying you

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Speaker 2: can live, you can do this, but you have to

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Speaker 2: keep breathing or you will die. So I put in

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Speaker 2: that visualization I was having, whether it was a dream hallucination,

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Speaker 2: I just put all of them, I as in the

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Speaker 2: basket of if I can just keep breathing, I'll make

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Speaker 2: it out of this. So I just remembered sitting in

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Speaker 2: that hallucination going and I just did that over and

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Speaker 2: over for what felt like an attorney in that you know,

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Speaker 2: hallucinated halway or a dream like halway.

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Speaker 1: For those of you that are listening or watching tonight. Again,

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Speaker 1: they did not ask for this. We researched it and

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Speaker 1: found it. Please go to his GoFundMe. We are support

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Speaker 1: Deputy Dalton Swanger and family. Both of these deputies have

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Speaker 1: a very very long row to Hoe and I want

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Speaker 1: both of them to know how much you mean to us,

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00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: to all of us. We go about our days assuming

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Speaker 1: you're there, when the truth is, if you weren't there,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't be here. Nobody would be protecting us, Nobody

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Speaker 1: would be catching the bag eyes and putting them away

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Speaker 1: from us and away from our children. But you do

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Speaker 1: that day and night, with no thought of your own safety.

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Speaker 1: And in addition to the Gofundmes well, you're bringing down

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Speaker 1: a power much more powerful. We are calling on a

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Speaker 1: power much greater than a dollar bill. You will both

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Speaker 1: be in our prayers until you are well. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for everyone joining us tonight, and now we stop to

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Speaker 1: remember an American hero officer, Brandon paul A. Storf of

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Speaker 1: Bay Saint Louis Police Department in Mississippi, just twenty three,

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Speaker 1: shot and killed in the line of duty, survived by

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Speaker 1: a grieving mother and father Ian also in law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Siblings Lily Sophia, Giordana, Chloe and Andrew. American hero officer

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Speaker 1: Brandon paul Estorf. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,