1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. We have a ton to 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: discuss with you big primary night in Georgia, Alabama, Texas 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: and beyond Arkansas as well. We will discuss what those 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: impacts were. We got a bunch of great guests for 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: you all headed this direction. We will discuss all of that. 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: But we began with the story that everybody is talking 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: about a shaken country in many ways, as a mentally 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: ill eighteen year old took the life of nineteen kids. 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Two adults also shot his grandmother, and everyone is reacting 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: to what happened in uv all day, Texas, and we 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: certainly want to extend As a parent, I walked my 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: kids to elementary school this morning. My kids get out 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: of school today, so I'm ducking out to go pick 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: them up as they have a half day for the 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: summer here in the Nashville area, and so I walk 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: my kids to school pretty much every morning most days. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Many days I am picking them up in the afternoon 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: as well. So like all of the parents and grandparents 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: out there who have young children, this is a sickening story. 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: I am filled Buck with questions about this on so 23 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: many different levels. And my first reaction to all of 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: these stories is after Columbine and after Sandy Hook, many 25 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: different schools have put in policies that make it hard 26 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: to get into a school if someone is armed and 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: is trying to do so. And I'll give you an example. 28 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: At my kids elementary school, there is an armed police 29 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: officer there. And by the way, I personally believe that 30 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: there should be an armed police officer at virtually every 31 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: school in America. That is my personal opinion. Some of 32 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: you made disagree. I also, in order to get into 33 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: our building, our elementary school, Buck, you have to show 34 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: your driver's license and you have to be buzzed in 35 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: through locked doors, and then there is once you are through, 36 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: there another door where you have to be buzzed in, 37 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: and then you also have to be buzzed in from 38 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: the office. Everybody has to come in through the main 39 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: entrance of the building. If you don't have a they 40 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: can look at you. There's a camera when you say 41 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: that who you are and why you're coming in. If 42 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: you don't have your ID, they won't let you in. 43 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: They know me. I've had three kids that go to 44 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: this school before, I've forgotten my ID and had to 45 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: turn around and drive back to go get my idea 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: to be able to be let into the building. My 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: point on all this, and I hear almost no one 48 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: discussing it, is I want to know how this guy 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: ended up inside of this school, What protocols were in 50 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: place that would have kept that from happening, did they 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: break down? How did he make his way into the 52 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: building to be able to commit these murders? Also, Buck, 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: I want to know was there arm security. We know, 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: at least based on the AP report, that there was 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: a border security guard who basically went in and we 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: don't know his name yet and killed this man and 57 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: may have saved many lives, but was there other security there. 58 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: I want to know all the facts before I start 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: demanding action, and we still know a small fraction, it 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: seems to me, of the overall facts. And you mentioned that, 61 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's important, especially in the aftermath of 62 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: these situations, when the whole country is reeling with grief, 63 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: to point out that there was there was a hero 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: on the scene here and it was a member of 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Border Patrol and Border patrol law enforcement. Border patrol has 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: a lot I'll think about thirty percent of border patrol 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: or former veterans of the United States Military, you know, 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: a very honorable service that is critical to this country's 69 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: interests and has a lot of a lot of good 70 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: men and women who are serving every day. And in 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: this case, a hero who stepped up. I'd be willing 72 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: to bet he probably just had a side arm and 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: went up against somebody who had a long gun and 74 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: who was obviously in the midst of a murderous rampage 75 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: and also had body armor on, and he was taken down. 76 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: So there was a hero who reacted. I mean in 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: the aftermath of this tragedy. Obviously, the whole country's heartbroken 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: right now, and it's one of these moments where you 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: would like, you would like to believe Clay, and you 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: know I was. I spoke to Tucker on his show 81 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: last night about this issue, right before Biden's speech, which 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: will go into in a moment. I think we'd all 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: like to believe as Americans that can we just start 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: from the premise that we all think this is absolutely 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: horrifying and we all would want to do whatever is 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: reasonable and possible to stop this or to limit this 87 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: possibility in the future, and we come from that perspective 88 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: the problem that we have right now as I see 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: then again talking about the aftermath, and we can speak 90 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: more about the details of this. I spent a lot 91 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: of time when I did counter terrorism analysis looking at 92 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: and there are whole whole parts of that discipline. I mean, 93 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: in New York City, it's actually the Intelligence Division that 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: does essentially counter plot work, meaning going after terrorist cells, 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: and then there's a whole there's CTD kind of terrorist 96 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and division. All they do play is hardening soft targets 97 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: government in this case government targets, but all kinds of 98 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: government is going to look at what you're discussing ingress 99 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: and egress points, choke choke points for where people would 100 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: have to filter in things like that, right, So there 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: are things you can do along those lines. There's obviously 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the arms and security component of this, and as a country, 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: having that discussion is absolutely called for and worthwhile. I 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: just think that what's deeply disturbing as a as a 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: political and as an after you in an aftermath component 106 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: of this, because we all are we all are horrified 107 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: by what happened is that it really does seem to 108 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: me that the Democrat impulse, and I don't mean from 109 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: random strangers online. I'm talking about the governor of California. 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about members of Congress is to turn around 111 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and say Republicans need to do what I want them 112 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: to do because of ideology or else, they don't care 113 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: about a lot of murdered children. This is what's being 114 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: set And I'm not exaggerating what they say. I'm not 115 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: taking out of context what they say. And my position 116 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: on this is that it goes beyond that. This screaming 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: at the right is is obviously not going to solve things. 118 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: It's actually counter solving the situation. It's actually unhelpful, and 119 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: it makes me and it actually makes me angry. It 120 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: makes me angry that they're people who think and again, 121 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: i'm talking about the governor of the most populous state 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: in America, you know, Gamma Knus, I'm talking about other 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the member I think it was a member of Congress 124 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: who shouted out that or tweeted out I should say that, 125 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, Ted Cruz is personally responsible for this. People 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: just find someone they don't like say you are responsible 127 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: for this. Anyone who does that is unhelpful and standing 128 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: in the way of preventing these kinds of atrocities from 129 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: happening going forward. That is a bad faith political smear. 130 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: We all know it. And I think that part of 131 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: this Clay gets that that has gotten worse, that has 132 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: become now a more universal impulse from the left. Something 133 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: horrible happens, it's the fault of the people that I 134 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: disagree with in politics. That's what social media has created, 135 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I think to a large extent is social media is 136 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: driven by emotion, and people respond emotionally and understandably when 137 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: immediate incidents like these occur. My natural reaction is, again, 138 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: as a parent, I think this is awful. I cannot imagine, 139 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: like any parents out there, anything worse than having a 140 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: kid that was at a school where something like this occurred. 141 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: I really can't. And having to wait there all day 142 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and find out whether your kids are going to be 143 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: safe or whether they're not, and when you're told that 144 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: something that they're not, that they may have been murdered, 145 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine that feeling. It is devastating to 146 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: even comprehend. But I step back eventually from the immediate emotion, 147 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: and I want to know how do we stop this 148 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: from happening. And that's the kind of conversation. First of all, Buck, 149 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, you tell me if I'm wrong. I 150 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: don't remember was in college when Columbine happened. I know 151 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: we have a huge audience people listening right now in Denver, 152 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: and those two shooters at Columbine in the late nineties, 153 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, seem to have inaugurated in many 154 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: ways the concept of school shootings, at least in the 155 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: way that they the mass school shooter phenomenon, and so 156 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: much of this has grown out of the mythologizing and 157 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: the infamy that we foist up on these mass shooters. 158 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: And so what often happens is you have a cluster 159 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: that I don't I don't think it's a I don't 160 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: think it's a surprise that Buffalo happened. And then this happens. 161 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: People with mental illness respond to the actions of other 162 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: people with mental illnesses who they in some way find 163 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: to be heroic. Which is why I would say one thing, 164 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: and I think we're trying to do it on this show, 165 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: but I think larger media, because so many people listen 166 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: to this, we've got to stop making the people who 167 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: do this heroes, and and the data is pretty clear 168 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: that the number one thing that media and you guys 169 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: make them make them famous yourself, don't make them famous. 170 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Don't share their names. Don't. I mean you can you 171 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: know that the impact of what they have done. I 172 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: would share the names of the victims. I would share 173 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: the names of the heroes, like this gentleman who we 174 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: still don't know from border patrol, who evidently stormed the 175 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: school and went in to protect people ran into danger. 176 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: All of those people deserve to have their stories told, 177 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: but we should not continue to provide fame to the 178 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: people who are seeking it. That's one psychologically seems to 179 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: be one of the driving forces behind why these happened. 180 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: And then the second part, buck is I want to 181 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: know how it happened because I want to try to 182 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: prevent it from happening again. In terms of the actual school, 183 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: how did he get into that school? As you were 184 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: talking about when you analyze this and go back through it, 185 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: because I look at it through what my schools and 186 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: my kids have in place, and I hope that's sufficient, 187 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: but I think every school should have that as well 188 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: as an armed security guard in my personal opinion. I 189 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: also think that there is a tendency in the aftermath 190 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: of a shooting like this to get we go be 191 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: we look at this and actually forget or forget about 192 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: some of what has happened before historically, and and there 193 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: needs to be a look at the data, the numbers, 194 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: because what I'm saying is people will say this is 195 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: never this never happens anywhere else, and then you find it, no, 196 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: actually this does happen and other it has happened in 197 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: other countries around the world. We have more mass shootings 198 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: than other industrialized countries. That's there's no question about that. 199 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: But these incidents have happened elsewhere. People will say, we've 200 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: never faced anything. Do we have monsters today in society 201 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: that we never had before. That's also not true. Now 202 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: we could look at numbers, we can look at trends. 203 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: But the worst ever, the worst ever school massacre was 204 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: actually in Michigan in nineteen twenty seven. It didn't involve 205 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: a gun and involved a bomb, and you had I 206 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: think it was almost forty p I think it was 207 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: thirty eight people, mostly almost entirely children, blown up in 208 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: a school building. Then you mentioned Columbine Columbine was nineteen 209 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: ninety nine. Does that sound I think that's right. I 210 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: think it's late nineties. I know I was in college. 211 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I was in high school at the time, 212 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: I remember. But Columbine actually came after the Dunblane massacre 213 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: in Scotland of nineteen ninety six, where somebody went into 214 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: a school and just shot as many as many people, 215 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: as as many children students as possible. So there are 216 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: monsters among us, and there have been, unfortunately for all 217 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: of modern history and all of history, depending on where 218 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about and what the circumstances are of the 219 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of murders you're looking at specifically. So now it's 220 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: what what does the data tell us about how to 221 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: bring down the prob abilities the percentages of something like 222 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: this happening. And I know that can feel in this 223 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: very emotional moment you think, well, we'll just we'll do anything. No, 224 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: we should do what is smart, what would work, what 225 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: is worthwhile, And it's not easy. There's a whole other component. 226 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: We can come back and talk about a clay. They say, oh, don't, 227 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: don't talk about the mental health issue here, it's about guns. 228 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: This is what you're hearing right now, it's this time. 229 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: You'll notice the narrative is very different. We're not hearing 230 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: about white nationalism because the shooter is lat was Latino, 231 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: so we're not hearing about white nationalisms as the motive 232 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: behind this one. So it's all about all about guns. 233 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: When you read about this individual Ramos who I'm sorry 234 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: I said his name, but his name is out there. 235 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: It's again yeah right, I mean it's commonplace because his 236 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: name is so widely spread, which is why I think 237 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: one of the things to do is to start that 238 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: trend of the This is what the number one thing 239 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: to do is not make him famous. But yes, when 240 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: you read is the background in terms of what people 241 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: thought of him, and he sounds like he was right 242 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: there with the trench coat mafia and Colin. I mean, 243 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: he's just the same warning signs, the same same patterns, 244 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the same and the same thing with a buffalo shooter. 245 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: By the way, in terms of people knew, okay, well, 246 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: if we know someone seems to be borderline or maybe 247 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: even fully beyond violent psychopathy, what can we do about 248 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that as a society. And there's a whole discussion that 249 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, particularly people on the left. 250 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I gonna say, don't want to have about what a 251 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: where are involuntary commitment laws? What are we willing to do? 252 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: So that's I think a component of this as well. 253 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: And I also want to say, Clay Clay and I 254 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: will talk to you about them the results, yes, or 255 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: from politics. We've got some other stories we're going to 256 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: talk about today as well, because we need to make 257 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: sure that we update everybody on everything that's going on, 258 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: because I know this is a hard one. 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As a nation, 286 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: we have to have the courage to take action and 287 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: understand the nexus between what makes for reasonable and sensible 288 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: public policy to ensure something like this never happens again. 289 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clarenbock. That was Vice President Harris speaking 290 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: about this we'll also discuss what Joe Biden said. I found. 291 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I found that Biden's comments the nation last night around 292 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: eight thirty Eastern time, started out very strong what we 293 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: wanted to hear, and for about two or three minutes, 294 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: and then was horrible in terms of not uniting the country, 295 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: saying the same stuff that we hear all the time. 296 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: And with Kamala Harris, you know, Clay I just yelling 297 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: at people to take action and have courage is neither 298 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: courageous nor an action plan. So I get very tired 299 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: of this. We have these people that want to lecture. 300 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: They always mean you, meaning you're the political opponents that 301 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: they don't agree with on other things, do what we say, 302 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: or else you don't care. That's what we get from Biden, 303 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: from Harris, from all of them, I think. And I 304 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: want to play a cut that's gotten super viral from 305 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, and I want to point out how emotional 306 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: response is to all issues, if you're not careful, can 307 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: actually lead to worse consequences than would otherwise exist. 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We all know in our gut 332 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: needs to be done. It's in three hundred and forty 333 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: three thousand, four hundred forty eight days, ten years since 334 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: I stood up at high School, Connecticut, a grade school 335 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: in Connecticut. We're another government massacred twenty six people, including 336 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: twenty first graders to Sandy Hook Elementary School. Since then, 337 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: they've been over nine hundred incidents and gunfires reported on 338 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: school grounds. Okay, that's Joe Biden immediately pivoting from showing 339 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: respect for those who their lives to instantaneously making the 340 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: shooting immediately political. And so there are a lot of 341 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: things that you can talk about that would make school safer. 342 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: That's why I started off the show buck as in fact, 343 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm leaving because my kids are out of school early 344 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: today in the second hour to go pick them up 345 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: because their school years ending. Okay, So I go to 346 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: an elementary school and have for over a decade, and 347 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: so I'm obviously, as many parents are very interested in 348 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: and concerned about the safety and security of my kids 349 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: inside of a school. We didn't have and still haven't 350 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: had any discussion about how this gunman got into the school. 351 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: What protocols were in place that could have kept this 352 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: from happening. Was their armed security inside of the school? 353 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: If not? Why All of those are legitimate conversations that 354 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: should be had, in my opinion, instead what we often get. 355 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: And I want to play the cut from Steve Kerr 356 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: here because it went super viral. Steve Kerr is the 357 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: Warriors basketball coach. There was a game in Dallas last night. 358 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: They had a moment of silence for the victims. I 359 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: think that was the right call for Mark Cuban's team 360 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: in Dallas. But I want I saw this. I don't know. 361 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you did, tu Buck. This thing went more 362 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: viral than almost any video in the wake of the shooting. 363 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Listen to Steve Kerr. When are we going to do something? 364 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm so tired of getting up here and 365 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: offering condolences to the devastated families that are out there, 366 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and I'm so tired of the excuse me, I'm sorry, 367 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm tired of the moments of silence. Enough fifty senators 368 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: in Washington are going to hold us hostage. Do you 369 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: realize that ninety percent of Americans regardless of political party, 370 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: want background check. Universal background check ninety percent of us. 371 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: We are being held hostage by fifty senators in Washington 372 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: who refuse to even put it to a vote. Despite 373 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: what we the American people want. They won't vote on 374 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: it because they want to hold onto their own power. 375 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: It's pathetic. I've had enough, all right. So he's screaming 376 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: at everyone inside of this press availability about a bill 377 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: that I don't think would do anything to stop what 378 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: actually has occurred. Because my understanding is this eighteen year 379 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: old legally bought these weapons in a retail establishment and 380 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: that he was legally allowed to have them. Right. Certainly, 381 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: you can't bring firearms onto school grounds. You certainly can't 382 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: murder someone. There are many different laws in existence already 383 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: that he violated. But the thing that I would point 384 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: out about Steve Kerr, and what I think is interesting 385 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: about TED, is it was widely acclaimed on social media, 386 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: Yet two years ago, Steve Kerr protested police officers being 387 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: present on school grounds. He protested in the wake of 388 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: the George Floyd incident Buck and demanded that school police 389 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: officers be removed because he said they weren't safe for 390 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: the students there. What should happen to Steve Kerr? If 391 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: we had a legitimate media that actually did its job, 392 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: was people would say, wait, you responded emotionally to George 393 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Floyd and demanded that all school police officers be removed, 394 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: and now you're responding emotionally to this shooting and demanding 395 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: something else. Isn't the best thing we could do for 396 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: kids in schools to have armed police officers there to 397 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: protect them. That's the question that a real media would 398 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: have asked, Well, I think Steve Kerr is a moron, 399 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: and I'd ask for his opinion on a zone defense. 400 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: Maybe not a whole lot more, I mean that I 401 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: agree with you. Unfortunately, we treat people like Steve Kerr 402 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: as if they are experts on this issue and if 403 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: they're going to step into politics, they should get quizzed 404 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: on their prior polite, absolutely absolute, which contradict. But you know, 405 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: of course, then when you when you box Steve Kerr 406 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: into a quarter on policy, he goes, hey, man, I'm 407 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a basketball coach. I don't know. Yeah, 408 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: this is what they So they pound the table and 409 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: demand action, but no notice. This has become reflexive from 410 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: from Democrats, they will say. And again when I say democrats, 411 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: I mean the vice president, the president. You know, I'm 412 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: talking about the people that that move the national discussion. 413 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: They demand action and they act like Republicans and the way. Okay, 414 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Democrats have a defacto majority in the Senate, they have 415 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: a majority in the House. Pass your gun control law. 416 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Let's go. Let let's see. Let's see what they want 417 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: to actually do. And when they go through that process, 418 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of people who know much more 419 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: about firearms, law enforcement, have honest and serious ideas. I mean, 420 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: you're talking about armed security. What stopped this, what stopped 421 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: this mass murder from happening. It was a member of 422 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: border patrol who was close enough that he was able 423 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: to engage. They did. There was a tactical team, but 424 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: I believe, and we're still getting details on this, this 425 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: one guy went in there, probably with a side arm 426 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: only against this shooter. Right, So that's what ended this. 427 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: So it's somebody, a good guy with the gun stopped tragically, 428 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: not before anybody was obviously, you know, caught in this 429 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: mass murder, but a good guy with the gun stop 430 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: the situation happening. So having a discussion about armed security. 431 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: That's that's a serious conversation. Right people could say, well, 432 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: where and how and fine, but that's a serious national 433 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: conversation about policy, having a discussion about what to do 434 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: with involuntary commitment. People who are I don't know what 435 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: else to say, seems like they're right out of the 436 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: mold of the Columbine or Adam Lanza, somebody who you know, 437 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: you look at all of all of the background of 438 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: the Buffalo shooter and now of this Uvalde shooter. People 439 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: knew this wasn't We were led to believe, oh my gosh, 440 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: this person and you know, the initial moments of this 441 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: maybe they snapped, No, they snapped over a long period 442 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: of time when everyone knew that this was somebody who 443 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: was probably dangerous. But what can you do about that? 444 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: You know? Well, the ACLU, which is obviously a very 445 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: left wing organization, continue with its posture of essentially deciding 446 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: that extreme mental illness is something that there can be 447 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: really no no intervention until you commit a crime. Extreme 448 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: mental illness is something that people just have a right. 449 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: And you see this on a much lesser level in 450 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: major cities where people walk around in broad daylight. You know, 451 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: urinating in the streets, shouting. I see this all the time, 452 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: Clay in New York, people who are clearly insane. And yeah, 453 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: maybe some of them are danger, some of them aren't. 454 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Most of them aren't a danger. But the point is, 455 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: are we going to look at trying to change the 456 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: laws about involuntary commitment so that you would be able 457 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: to take somebody in the state, will take them out 458 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: of society until they're clearly not a threat to just 459 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: say magazine limitations and if you don't want to do that, 460 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: you know you're awful. To say assault rifle band, even 461 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: the assault rifle band they talk about, they've Washington Post. 462 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Clay did a fact check on this. Biden's oh, we 463 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: banned assault rifles that brought down violence. That is not true. 464 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: So does it matter that it didn't work before? I'm 465 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: just wondering, does it matter that it didn't actually bring 466 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: down homicides and shootings and mass shootings? Now they don't care. 467 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: So when we sit here and say, okay, let's have 468 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: a real conversation, they want to just throw things at 469 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: the people they don't like politically, and it's gross and unfortunately, 470 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: this is a symptom of a larger issue of gun 471 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: violence all over the country being committed by criminals, and 472 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: the way to come back criminals that to have more 473 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: police officers. So ultimately, what this all reinforces, and I 474 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: say this as a parent, I am ecstatic that there 475 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: is an armed police officer every single day at my 476 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: kids public elementary school here in the Nashville area. I 477 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: would want the same thing for my kids as I 478 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: would for everybody out there who's listening as kids. So 479 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: that's a real conversation we should have. That's why I 480 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: want to look at the particular facts here, find out 481 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: how this shooter got into the school, Why was there 482 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: not an armed security there, what protocols could have been 483 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: in place to stop this from happening. Screaming about guns, 484 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: there's no real solution here from a gun perspective, because 485 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Eve Buck, I don't even know what the logical extension 486 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: of this is. Do you want the government going around 487 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: knocking on doors removing all guns? I mean, I don't 488 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: really understand where this logically leads to. I have yet 489 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: to be persuaded that the reason why a crazy person 490 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: is crazy is impacted the gun laws would have changed 491 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: that crazy person from being able to behave in a 492 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: crazy way. I always used to say on my old 493 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: show years and years ago, because we've been talking about 494 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: this for a long time, you can't stop crazy, right, 495 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: There's always going to be crazy people. What can you 496 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: do to put protocols in place so that those crazy 497 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: people have as little power as possible. I'm open to 498 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: all those discussions. To me, arm security at schools makes sense, 499 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: and as many policies inside of the school to keep 500 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: people from being able to enter as possible. I want 501 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: to know what failed here, and I just I would 502 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: like to see us move toward as a country discussions 503 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: about it because we all actually want the same thing. 504 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: There are some things that we can still say. We 505 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: all want kids to be safe. We want everybody to 506 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: be safe obviously from an incident like this, but we 507 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: want our children first and foremost to be safe. 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This was in the New York pros DJ 549 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: referral of Trump Russian material a mistake by the FBI, 550 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: according to an FBI agent, and this is just the 551 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: beginning of this piece. An FBI agent, already under scrutiny 552 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: overclaims he withheld key information in the Crossfire hurricane investigation, 553 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: admitted Tuesday to a screw up that led other agents 554 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: to believe a probe of Trump Russian bank links was 555 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: spurred by the Justice Department instead of a lawyer for 556 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. FBI agent Curtis Heidi, I don't 557 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: know how you say that, was asked by a by 558 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: prosecutors about a communication drafted by him that stated the 559 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Department of Justice provided the FBI with a y paper 560 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: that was produced by an anonymous third party Clay. They 561 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: didn't think, apparently it was important to be like, hey, 562 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: you know how we're going after a presidential campaign right now. Yeah, 563 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: the information that we're using to go after them was 564 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: from their opponents, the other presidential campaign. Motive. Not an expert, buck, 565 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: not an expert on criminal investigations. I have defended clients 566 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: who have been the subject of criminal investigations, but I 567 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: know enough to know that motive might factor in in 568 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: terms of why someone decides to do something. And if 569 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: your rival candidate decides that they are trying to turn 570 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: in the person that they're running against for president, might 571 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: set off a few alarm bells. So just gonna say, 572 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: and this is again continuing to be one of the 573 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: most flawed jobs in media history. I think has been 574 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: covering Russia collusion in Joe Rule, because not just at 575 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: all the media get it wrong, Buck, they actually rewarded 576 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: all the media that got it the most wrong with 577 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: the most prestigious awards that you can get in journalism. 578 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: There were plays the people that got this entirely. The 579 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: media apparatus is the greatest self licking ice cream cone 580 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: in American society. They love each other like nobody else. 581 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: This is crazy, and there's been no there's been no 582 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: accountability for it whatsoever. They've never come out and said 583 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: they've never even really issued corrections. They've kind of just 584 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: acted like they didn't do this, and that the people 585 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: that they were shouting down as h Trumpers and fascists 586 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, we were right. Everybody who was 587 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: saying Russia collusion is bullcrap was they were totally correct. 588 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: But you know, we live in this era now where 589 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: like reality doesn't even matter to these people anymore. It's 590 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: really just what's what's necessary in the moment for the 591 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: pursuit of power for their team. First. I'm not sure 592 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: there's any profession in the world that loves itself more 593 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: than journalists love themselves. I Mean, they really do treat 594 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: themselves like they have the most important job that's ever 595 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: existed in the history of mankind. Second, and I keep 596 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: hammering this open. I think it's good for people out 597 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: there to use sometimes in your conversations. If the media 598 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: weren't biased, wouldn't they have gotten things wrong in Trump's favor? 599 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Of course? So this is where I always say, like, 600 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: we never heard like, oh, Trump saved eight puppies that 601 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: were otherwise going to drown, and then it comes out 602 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: that those eight puppies didn't actually exist, and you're like, oh, 603 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: that story's totally made up. I can't think of an 604 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: error that was made during Donald Trump's presidency that made 605 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: him look better. Now one, can you remember a story 606 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: that came out that made Trump look really good or 607 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: just better, and later it came out that it was 608 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: totally fake. I can't remember one. No, it doesn't exist. 609 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: But also, do you remember this story Trump gets two 610 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: scoops of ice cream everyone else that was on CNN. 611 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: That's up on cnn dot com if you go you 612 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: want to find it. Back in twenty seventeen, the first 613 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: six months the Trump's presidency, he gets two scoops. These 614 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: people that the media that were covering the Trump administration 615 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: were just broken by him. I mean there was no 616 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: rhyme or reason beyond attack, attack, destroy all the time. 617 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: And you wonder, I mean there were there were, by 618 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: the way, there were a lot of story. It wasn't 619 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: just seeing it had a lot of stories. Trump gets 620 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: two scoops of ice cream. Everybody else gets one. Yeah, 621 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: he also gets like a huge secret service detail in 622 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Air Force one. You know, I guess the president gets 623 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot of it. I remember how angry people were 624 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: when he had the teams over to visit. I think 625 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: it was Clemson that was visiting, and and he went 626 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: and they bought their own fast food for them, right 627 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: because I think the government was shut down maybe around 628 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: that time, and people were so outraged that he had 629 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: gone and bought Hamburgers and French for eyes for everybody, 630 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: for the Clemson team to be able to come and 631 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: eat at the White House. And I think most people 632 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: out there listening are, like you're telling me, when I 633 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: was in college, I could have met the president and 634 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: gotten a Hamburger. That sounds like a hell of a 635 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: combo deal to most people out there. Yet the media 636 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: was outraged that this could ever be occurring. Susman trial 637 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: is under way. The origins of Russia collusion now beyond 638 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt in the Hillary Clinton campaign, which we had 639 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: thought before, but now we have further proof of it. 640 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: Will there be some legal accountability for what Hillary and 641 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: her minions did here? We'll ask the man who always 642 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: shoots straight on this stuff, Andy McCarthy. He'll tell us 643 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: like it is that's coming up here in just a 644 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: few minutes, and then we'll talk Georgia and all the 645 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: election stuff from last night. The next hour stick around Fleet, Travis, 646 00:36:51,880 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton on the front lines. Se