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Speaker 1: excited to be joined by the Wake Forest head coach.

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Speaker 1: And for several years it came from Washington State where

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Speaker 1: he coached cam Ward. And we'll get into he might

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Speaker 2: John's a pleasure to be on you know, obviously exciting

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Speaker 2: And we're in the best profession you could ever be in.

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Speaker 2: And I got a unique perspective, right, there's a thin

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Speaker 1: Know, you're it was fair to call you a Midwest

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Speaker 1: But given the opportunity was just something you couldn't say

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Speaker 2: You know, you kind of step back when this opportunity

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk a little bit about your background.

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Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by You were a wide receiver in college. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Your background, the highest level in what you played was offense.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think unique story. Like I played offense. My

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Speaker 3: I'm a math guy. I see things a certain way.

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Speaker 2: You got to be a problem solver as a defensive coach,

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Speaker 2: and I just started to work my way up college

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Speaker 2: football and I just enjoyed it. You know, offense is

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about that. It's fair to

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things, especially in the thin air.

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Speaker 2: I walked out to the first practice and you hear

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Speaker 2: And the biggest thing though about John or why I

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Speaker 2: he didn't have the greatest season, and scouts would come

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Speaker 2: I said, guys, take him right, don't worry about his footwork.

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Speaker 2: He's a playmaker, he's a competitor. He has that it

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Speaker 1: Arm because one of the knocks, like you said that

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Speaker 1: the stats weren't that great, but you guys had just

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Speaker 1: What would your scattering report be on camp Ward?

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing, you know, we feel that

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Speaker 2: His anticipation in seam throws is unlike anything I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think by all accounts he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: because there's a transactional piece that has come into our game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think about this lot having you know,

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Speaker 1: worked for Pat Hill and seen at Fresno State, and

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Speaker 1: we had so many good players and just going if

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Speaker 1: this was twenty twenty five, not two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: or ten. Would they have stayed. I mean, you've been

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Speaker 1: in that world now once the Pac twelve kind of

487
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Speaker 1: dissolved in Washington State and Oregon State got the short

488
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Speaker 1: end of the stick, which is sad because you know

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Speaker 1: how much they care about football. Can those programs even

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Speaker 1: boise that? I think they were pretty outspoken that Ashton

491
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Speaker 1: gent to you. I definitely need to ask you about

492
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Speaker 1: Uh just turned down a lot of money to stay,

493
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Speaker 1: and I think it's fair to say that's an outlier

494
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Speaker 1: situation moving forward. But is that kind of going to

495
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Speaker 1: become the minor league system of college football?

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Speaker 2: I'd really think, John, we're in a dangerous place, right.

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Speaker 2: And I've been a big proponent of keeping the student

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Speaker 2: athlete model as long as we can, right. I think

499
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Speaker 2: that's important to our game. But I think now we've

500
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Speaker 2: gotten to the point where we might need collective bargaining, right,

501
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Speaker 2: We might need a certain situation where roster building is

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Speaker 2: the hardest thing you've ever had to do. Now at

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Speaker 2: this level, and especially at the group of five. You know,

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Speaker 2: I would love to see you know, once you sign

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Speaker 2: a kid out of high school, that's a three year

506
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Speaker 2: locked in contract. It's good for the player, it's good

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Speaker 2: for the university. It's just good for everyone to know.

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Speaker 2: Then now as a junior, senior, right, the fourth fifth

509
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Speaker 2: year guys, you can take advantage and move right, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to see you know, almost a rookie pay scale.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Those guys coming into your program are slotted at certain levels, right,

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Speaker 2: so you know at that level, you know, okay, these

514
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Speaker 2: are the guys that I'm locked into. These are the

515
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Speaker 2: guys that potentially could leave, and you can at least

516
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Speaker 2: build a roster.

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Speaker 4: Right, there was a point where you know, you don't know,

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Speaker 4: as any.

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Speaker 2: Team, I guess we could. At the same time, you

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Speaker 2: could lose every running back, every quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It just you can't plan. And that could be twice

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Speaker 4: a year now.

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Speaker 2: So whatever level you're talking about, you know, we need

524
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Speaker 2: to have a better fixture of like how to build teams.

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Speaker 2: I support the portal, I support you know, these guys

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Speaker 2: getting rev share like all that things supported. But from

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Speaker 2: a team building, roster building management, no matter what level

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Speaker 2: you're at, we got to get a better handle on

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Speaker 2: who's doing what we're and how so we can make

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Speaker 2: sure we're building teams the right way.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a philosophy on the pie of money

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Speaker 1: to go. This is what I think recruits are worth

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Speaker 1: freshman or worth relative to transfer guy like a cam

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Speaker 1: Ward in the portal And if so, did you develop

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Speaker 1: that by talking to people in the NFL to kind

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Speaker 1: of gauge how to kind of balance the economics of

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Speaker 1: this world?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were the first at Washington stated

539
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Speaker 2: to go to a GM model. When I got hired

540
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: You could see where the game was going.

542
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Speaker 2: And our biggest philosophy is you have to pay for production,

543
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Speaker 2: not potential. Right, that just has to be part of

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Speaker 2: what we do. And still stay towards a developmental structure. Right,

545
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Speaker 2: find kids at low value, find the traits that you

546
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: can develop, put them in what I call the slow cooker.

547
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Speaker 2: Life is in a microwave society. Football players want it now.

548
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Speaker 2: We got to find the right men that want to

549
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Speaker 2: develop and then have the resources later in their career

550
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Speaker 2: to stay in. Yeah, every position is a certain you know,

551
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Speaker 2: we do it this way, right. You come in at

552
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Speaker 2: a lower level once you're a low volume backup. That's

553
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Speaker 2: a certain value, high value backup, certain level, low volume starter,

554
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Speaker 2: high volume starter and Obviously everyone has those exceptions, right

555
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Speaker 2: that you need to make sure you're going to the

556
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Speaker 2: top of the market.

557
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Speaker 4: So that's how we need to stay.

558
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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously the current situation of the quarterback

559
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Speaker 2: out there shows at time teams now need to know

560
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Speaker 2: when to step away. And I think that's the hardest

561
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Speaker 2: part because you're emotionally attached to these kids. You know

562
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Speaker 2: these kids, right, You've invested a lot in these kids.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a balance. You know, We've asked

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Speaker 2: a lot of different programs. We've been around some other

565
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Speaker 2: NFL teams, but their models are different. Because free agency,

566
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Speaker 2: they know when kids are up, they know when they

567
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Speaker 2: can sign them. There isn't two periods that can happen, right,

568
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Speaker 2: So there's some things that you know, even they're like,

569
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Speaker 2: you know, that doesn't happen in our world.

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Speaker 1: When you got hired, the portal was open, correct, in

571
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Speaker 1: the middle of December.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the biggest thing is we got in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was hired December twentieth, right right around there,

574
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Speaker 2: so you know it's already been open for two weeks, right.

575
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Speaker 2: I like to say we came in at the end

576
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Speaker 2: of the draft, right, We're trying to find the best

577
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Speaker 2: value for us, you know at that time, and I

578
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Speaker 2: thought we did a really good job of that. Right now,

579
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Speaker 2: in this cycle, it's always a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: You know.

581
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Speaker 2: In Wake four is like we want to get out

582
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Speaker 2: of this. We're getting thirty kids a year out of

583
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Speaker 2: the portal, right is the handwere dealt. We got to

584
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Speaker 2: continue to enhance and run.

585
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Speaker 1: Is that what your number was this fall?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty, you know, twenty about twenty and ten twenty

588
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Speaker 2: in the fall?

589
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Speaker 4: Ten now and you know that need that number.

590
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Speaker 2: Needs to be from five to ten, and you supplement

591
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Speaker 2: the positions on your team that you need to go.

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Speaker 4: You know, hans a little bit.

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Speaker 1: When you get hired and guys on your own team

594
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Speaker 1: or in the portal, it's obviously a whirlwind. How do

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Speaker 1: you know, It's like you look back, I would have

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Speaker 1: loved to keep that guy. I just had a lot

597
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Speaker 1: going on. I'm trying to hire coaches. Almost feels like

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Speaker 1: a predicament that's unsolvable at the time.

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Speaker 2: If the NCAA asked me, like what you learn from

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Speaker 2: the transition, I would love to have a ten day

601
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Speaker 2: period where your team cannot get in the portal, allow

602
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Speaker 2: a new coach to get there, to get established and

603
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Speaker 2: at least be able to meet the team. Okay, we

604
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Speaker 2: know in today's world, as soon as coach Classon resigned.

605
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Speaker 2: You know, every starter on our team was fielding calls

606
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 2: just during that uncertainty period. And that's tough, right, and

607
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: just the way it is. I meanyone can complain about it.

608
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: I think that's the way college football is structured now.

609
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Speaker 2: So I would love a ten day period where just

610
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Speaker 2: allow for a conversation to happen, right, And you know,

611
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Speaker 2: there's nothing more important than trying to retain a roster

612
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Speaker 2: so you can build off it.

613
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Speaker 4: And you know it comes with unique challenges.

614
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Speaker 2: Especially by the time I got hired, every kid was

615
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Speaker 2: at home, right, so we had to do that over

616
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Speaker 2: zoom and FaceTime, and you know this, you just can't

617
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Speaker 2: feel the energy of a new staff that way.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I do want to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: guys that you've coached against, especially a lot of them

620
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Speaker 1: are on offense and you're a defensive guy. I don't

621
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Speaker 1: want to bring him a bad memory, but Ashon Jenty,

622
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Speaker 1: that's a bad memory right there. Just just talk to

623
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Speaker 1: me because he's he's a hot topic. I mean, he

624
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Speaker 1: looks from Boise State has a chance to go in

625
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Speaker 1: the top six or seven picks. He had a huge

626
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Speaker 1: day against you guys, and you're a good defense. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, in fairness, he did that against everybody. He

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Speaker 1: did that against Oregon. He was the number one team

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Speaker 1: in the country. From a game planning perspective, what did

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Speaker 1: you see against him? And then what in the game

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Speaker 1: were you're blown away by?

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Speaker 2: We really underestimated his speed, Okay, And I go back

633
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Speaker 2: to the Oregon tape and you're watching him run away

634
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Speaker 2: from those guys, you know, and you're just kind of

635
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Speaker 2: watching it.

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Speaker 4: And his contact balance is elite guy.

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Speaker 2: He is about feels like five to eight, but he

638
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 2: is a bowling ball of athleticism and power and speed.

639
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Speaker 2: So he broke more tackles on us, I think than

640
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Speaker 2: he did on anybody else, you know, statistically speaking, And

641
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Speaker 2: it was his contact balance, the way he finished his

642
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Speaker 2: and when he's out in the opening space, you're not

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Speaker 2: catching him, right. So it was a unique challenge of

644
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: trying to find ways and we were in that game

645
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Speaker 2: and he broke two big fourth quarter you know, touchdown

646
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Speaker 2: runs that just put us away. And it's a unique talent,

647
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Speaker 2: but once again a guy that trusted the process the

648
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Speaker 2: year before. I mean, you're talking about a backup tailback, right,

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Speaker 2: and for him to burst on the scene. They always

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Speaker 2: knew they had that type of talented player, and to

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Speaker 2: kind of see it all the way through, I think

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Speaker 2: it is good for college football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Pani's bow, Nick Travis Hunter Shador is

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Speaker 1: safe to say he was the best player in your

655
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: three plus years there at Washington State that you went against.

656
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: We went against Caleb Williams. I'm trying to think of

657
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: all the other players.

658
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: It was a quarterback bill at Arizona.

659
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, I mean I would put Caleb Williams

660
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: up there, just I mean, and we held him under

661
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: three hundred yards passing, and I don't know if anyone

662
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: did that that year. He was just an incredible talent

663
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: to do it. Genti's right up there, you know, Pennix.

664
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: You know, I still think the offensive line at Washington

665
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: that year was just phenomenal. You know, all those players.

666
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: So he's right up there, and he deserves everything that's

667
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: coming his way. And you know, obviously, you know, I know,

668
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: you know, coach Danielson over there a little bit just

669
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: speaks to his character, and I think all those things

670
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: put together, you know, he's he's right up there as

671
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: far as the toughest people we've had to defend.

672
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Someone asked me about a comp with cam Ward. Do

673
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you think there are some similarities in the way they

674
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: play with Caleb little different body types, but.

675
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's the one thing Cam

676
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, you know, we do these scouting deals and

677
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: everyone after the twenty two seasons like, hey, we got

678
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: to get his body in order, and he did that.

679
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: I think the escapability to wear off script. You know,

680
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators can come in with all these fancy plans, right,

681
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 2: this is how we're gonna run this coverage.

682
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: This covers this coverage.

683
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: But when those guys break down and they playoff script,

684
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: there's no defense for that. And I think that's what

685
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: makes the quarterbacking special. It's the number one thing when

686
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: we start to dive into taking a quarterback, you know,

687
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: we make an off script tape.

688
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: That's what makes you elite.

689
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's why Cam and the Caleb Williams,

690
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, Pennix was a little more pocket pass or

691
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: NFL ready that way, but that what makes the special player.

692
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: Like I grew up on Brett farv Right, you're gonna

693
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: take a lot of the good with the bad sometimes,

694
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: and Cam's that way a little bit because he's the

695
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: ultimate gun slinger, like he's gonna throw it into some

696
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: tight spaces.

697
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: But you need that.

698
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: You can as a head coach saying oh, this was terrible,

699
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: and then celebrate him. You know, fourth and sixth against

700
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Oregon in a whirling left handed pass. It goes with it,

701
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: and I think there's a style that he plays that

702
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: I think is really unique.

703
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Me and Coward were talking about this the other day.

704
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, you and I are similar ages. Forever. It

705
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: was the Carson Palmers, the Manning Brothers, the Bradys. You've

706
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: been now deep in evaluating high school football. If you

707
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: look at the last three or four years, even Pennix

708
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: was viewed as a pocket quarterback and then he ran

709
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: like four or five two. Same thing with CJ. Stroud.

710
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: It's like the the the guy that's six' six that can't.

711
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Move does that guy exist in high school football?

712
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Anymore he, Exists he's out, there but not a lot

713
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: of people are designing offense for that guy because it's hard.

714
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Right and would you recruit that?

715
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: Guy we would. NOT i mean you have to be able.

716
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: To we're a big Fan john of not having the

717
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: same skill sets in the.

718
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: Room, right we got to.

719
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: You, know we signed a kid out Of Steel pizzella

720
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: that's five ten and a half ran ten four in high.

721
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: School.

722
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Right we GOT Dsn purdy that's six' five two and twenty.

723
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Five pounds he got a.

724
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: Rocket, Arm, right well why?

725
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Is that don't you want a similar? Skill? Set, historically like.

726
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: You know what we, really, don't RIGHT because i think

727
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: the best coaches designed the offense to what, they, Have

728
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: right and the one trade that will always be in

729
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: there is athleticism to threaten, To, Run right that's the,

730
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: one trade, not size but it's the athleticism to be

731
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: a dual threat and flatten out. The DEFENSE and i

732
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: think that's the important pieces of what. They bring like

733
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: even can we run cam a?

734
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: Little?

735
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: Bit Right But john mattier opened up a whole different

736
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: level of. The offense so you got to be crafty

737
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: and creative enough to make sure you're designing it about you,

738
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: know whatever the best you know elite trade is of.

739
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Your QUARTERBACK what i know you Guys played colorado toward

740
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the end of the season two years ago when the team. Was,

741
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: struggling Uh was travis healthy in? That game was he?

742
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: Was back He Was.

743
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: Shador sanders, you know he played for about a quarter

744
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: and a half and then he wasn't.

745
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: Out There And travis hunter is a unique.

746
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: Skill set now he, caught ah he mossed a couple

747
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: of our guys, you know back in the end zone

748
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: and scored a couple. Of touchdowns he's, unique player obviously a,

749
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: unique Competitor and i'm just excited to see him do

750
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: it at the. NEXT level i think there's something that's obviously,

751
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: very intriguing and, you know the best is still in front.

752
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Of him did you think what could be what he

753
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: did this year could be done playing all those snaps?

754
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Both ways when.

755
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: It, FIRST started i, was like this, can't, continue right,

756
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: you know and to do it at an. Elite level

757
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: but to be able to focus, AND develop i think.

758
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: IS hard, i think in, my mind how do you

759
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: even practice? This right so to be able to, DO

760
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: that i think it's so UNIQUE and i think it's

761
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: so good for college football now because, of, That though

762
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: i've been asked the question about playing both ways. More,

763
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: times yeah it doesn't happen. Like that is a once

764
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: in a generational type talent that can do those type.

765
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Of Things so i'm just excited to see if he

766
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: can continue that at the.

767
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Next level how often over the last, couple years when

768
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: some of these top quarterbacks are, coming out, you know

769
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: you're you're a defensive GUY to. Nfl guys pick your

770
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: brain About bo Nix Or michael Pennix or chador or

771
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: obviously your, own guys but the competition because the way,

772
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: you know you're heavily involved in the game plan of

773
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: stopping and you did a really. Good job, you know

774
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: two YEARS ago i looked at the Scores against oregon

775
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: and uh And, against Washington and washington played in the

776
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: final and what was what was the? Score there twenty

777
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: four to twenty one or something couple of. Years, ago

778
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: yeah if you're really laying on sorry bring you Won

779
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: The apple cup? This Year, we yeah we had the

780
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: ball with three.

781
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: MINUTES left I thought cam was gonna go down and

782
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: lead us. To victory it. JUST didn't i.

783
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Was watching there's a lot of people that ask.

784
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: ABOUT it i thought it was a unique time even in,

785
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: that league right that last Year the pac twelve to

786
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: have all that type of. Talented, quarterbacks yeah they, do that,

787
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: you know they, kind, of hey how how do you see?

788
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: This guy what's What's bo nix's?

789
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: Greatest strength and the best, part is like, you said

790
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: they're all different, skill sets they're, all unique, You KNOW

791
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: but i think quarterbacking is something where you got to

792
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: sit down the guy in the room and you got

793
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: to be able, to understand like what makes that guy,

794
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: tick right and you got to be able to coach

795
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: him to their strengths and. Their abilities so trying to

796
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: take away their their best thing that they do is

797
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: always something that we. Focused on try to make. Him Uncomfortable,

798
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: like panix we knew if we could actually move, his

799
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: feet the, analytics said his completion percentage drops from like

800
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: he was seventy eight percent down to like. Fifty two

801
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: so the whole game plan was about getting pressure in.

802
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: His face and we went out THERE and i thought

803
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: executed one. Place short Credit to kalon, the bowler he

804
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: went for it on fourth and one on his own

805
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: twenty seven yard line with.

806
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: The reverse so it was a it was a hell of.

807
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: A game, you, say analytics is it safe to say

808
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: you're pretty heavy into. The numbers in terms of, game planning.

809
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: It's huge.

810
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: YOU know i think it's one of those things like

811
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: you can create an edge for your program by how

812
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: you use and analyze. Those, things okay so even at way,

813
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: for us we're, talking about, you know a, sports analytical student,

814
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: driven team, you know that can take this unprecedent amount

815
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: of information that we, now, have right you can look

816
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: up any split any, you know because like, take example

817
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: like completion percentage seems like a real thing we all. Talk,

818
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: about okay well are you what do you do with a?

819
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: A drop what do you do with hey running back

820
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: missed a block and he had to just roll out

821
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: and throw. It, Away right so when you Look At,

822
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: josh allen he was fifty six percent completion percentage his.

823
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Senior year that's all anyone wanted to. Talk, about well

824
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: what is the adjustment? Completion percentage what.

825
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: Is the down the field, you know deep?

826
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Ball, range like there's a lot of different things that

827
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: go into an accurate quarterback that one stat doesn't, talk,

828
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: About right so there's a lot of THINGS that i

829
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: think we use to, our ADVANTAGE and i think that's

830
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: kind of been our ace in the whole of finding

831
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: some of. These Things, like john the number one thing

832
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: we look for in the portal is. Snaps, gained right

833
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: that's our own little analytic, to, SAY hey i don't

834
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: care If YOUR, Division iii division, two player if you've

835
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: played nine hundred and fifty fifteen hundred snaps in, your

836
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: career you understand what it takes to go out there

837
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: and perform. And play that's relatable to us in the

838
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: way we metric our organization and how we build.

839
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: A team you're being inclined to use. The metrics is

840
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: that something you learned from someone else or is that

841
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: something that naturally.

842
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: You Enjoyed rob schleeger is our, general manager and he's

843
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: the smartest Human being i've ever, been around the best,

844
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: kept secret in, my opinion in all of, college football

845
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: from the biomechanics to, the anthropometrics all these big WORDS

846
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: that i learned from HIM that i have no idea what, They, mean,

847
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: nie circumference. FEMUR lengths, i mean there's there's things that,

848
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: we really, you know put into our process that matters

849
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: and why it affects movers and how you see things

850
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: and what their growth. Potential is, you know we're not

851
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: going to sign the six to six three hundred and five.

852
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: Pound kid we're going to sign the six six two

853
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five, pound kid and we're going to

854
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: put the sixty pounds. On them and there's all sorts

855
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: of metrics that has been proven for us, to, say

856
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: hey this kid can get there or this?

857
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Kid can't you bring him with him with You.

858
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: From, wazoo, Yes yes and he was a j Fors

859
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: At wyoming and like you always, knew that we just had,

860
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: a special uh just kind of eye for talent. And

861
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: evaluation and, you know we've kind of put our own stamp.

862
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: ON things i. Heard you sorry to keep, so long

863
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: BUT this i heard you on an interview talking about the.

864
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Recruiting process where it used to be the assistant coaches

865
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: were a lot like the scouts for a. College program

866
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: that's changed a. Little bit is it's safe to say

867
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: that their activity in the recruiting process is probably a

868
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: little different than it used. To be and now you

869
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: AND the gm work more hand in hand to get

870
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: these guys because the money factors, into You don't is

871
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: it completely different than it was five?

872
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 4: Years, AGO yeah i like to say recruiting.

873
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Is over as, player, Acquisition right and one of the

874
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: biggest things we changed and what we sold on what

875
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: we bring them away for is is a scouting department and. A.

876
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: Vision right so you know we HAVE, the gm the

877
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: director of, player personnel the head scouts and. LEAD scouts

878
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: i wish they'd allow that personnel to, leave, Campus right

879
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: we're Still BEHIND the nfl doesn't ask their, position coach,

880
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: you know throughout the year to go scout. Live games

881
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: the scouting group. Does that so SO.

882
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Your gm can't go to a high. School, GAME no

883
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: i mean.

884
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: They can't now you can designate them as one as,

885
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: the ten but most people have the coaches doing that in.

886
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: The spring and, you know as football, has added we

887
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: just keep piling it on to the full. Time, Staff

888
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: right so allow a little bit, more flexibility, you know

889
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: for us in our programs to kind of utilize, our personnel,

890
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: you know as we. See FIT and i do think

891
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: that would help the lower levels.

892
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: As well that feels like a no brainer move that

893
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: your scouting staff can hit the high school while your

894
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: coaches stay with your. Current.

895
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: Players, RIGHT yeah I mean i think the one thing

896
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: even the calendar of major college football needs completely.

897
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: Be redone let's just take the.

898
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: SALARY cap i mean the salary cap for college Football

899
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: runs August. To, august well we all know the Season

900
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: is January. To january as far as like building, a

901
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: team so there's some unique challenges and all that type.

902
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: Of stuff right when your team.

903
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: Comes Back in january and you might have added twenty

904
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: portal players, and, newcomers right that's when the coaches are

905
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: on the road recruiting high. School, Guys right so there's

906
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: just a big SHIFT that i think we need to

907
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: get coaches in, the room the guys that actually go.

908
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: Through it a Guy Like craig Boll And nick saban

909
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: and all these coaches heading it up and let's let's

910
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: formulate a great future for.

911
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: College football do.

912
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: You, feel like at least headed in the? Right direction

913
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: were still a lot OF unknown.

914
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean this this is THE biggest, i mean we're

915
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: in the place the. Biggest Unknowns, john like until this

916
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: house settlement has approved and, goes through who knows what's

917
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen with collectives and, third parties roster managements one.

918
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh five there's more questions. Than ever, and uh, you

919
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: KNOW like, i said we have the best game in all.

920
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: OF sport i, believe, that uh the excitement of college

921
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: football is better THAN the nfl in, my opinion and

922
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: we got to preserve what makes, it special and you know.

923
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: It will will there be any more retired numbers than?

924
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: COLLEGE football i think it's an.

925
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: AMAZING question i know there's TWO at ceu, going on but,

926
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: you know as there gonna be those legendary one place

927
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: high school or college players anymore getting the, numbers retired and.

928
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Especially because that's where you get these relationships with you

929
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: with the people you play with and obviously your. Coaching

930
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: staff that when you're sixty seventy eighty, years OLD and i,

931
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: started thinking some of these guys are transfer. Three times

932
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: think how many people? They meet how do you even

933
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: keep track?

934
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: Of, that well you know the old you're gonna meet

935
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: the best man at. Your wedding you know it's gonna

936
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 2: be harder, to find right?

937
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: For sure well coach the best of luck and keep this,

938
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: quarterback train you know rolling, you know because you got

939
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: you got a good thing going, defensive guy but a. Quarterback,

940
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: GURU well i.

941
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: Appreciate that that's a that's.

942
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: A tag i don't KNOW if i want for to

943
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: continue to grind through it and excited about the guys

944
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: we have here.

945
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: As, well yeah good luck the rest of the spring

946
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: and obviously.

947
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: This fall, Appreciate you john. Go, digs.

948
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: Okay time for a little mail Bag At. John Middlecoff

949
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: At john middlecoff Is the instagram fire and those dms

950
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: get your questions answered here own.

951
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: THE show.

952
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't KNOW why i just, did that but, BIG

953
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: fan i don't understand all the Hate. With nico your

954
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: analogy about an average guard doing a holdout makes, complete

955
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: SENSE but i feel like the hardcore college football fans

956
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: want this to fail so badly because of the anti.

957
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: Nil Sentiment If jeremiah smith does a holdout, Next Year

958
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: ohio state shouldn't pay Him. QUESTION mark i think that's.

959
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: A ridiculous i think. That's ridiculous AS an, ASU fan

960
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: I Know sam levitt had some renegotiations this offseason to get.

961
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: More money He's a. HEISMAN contender i don't see a problem.

962
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: With that he didn't, hold OUT but i bet some

963
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: stars will hold. Out, eventually well You Use. Jeremiah smith

964
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: he had an elite season as an. Elite player no

965
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: one has an issue with him wanting. A raise i

966
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: forget the, guy's name but he was a huge Recruit In.

967
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: South carolina he's like, the honestly he feels a LITTLE

968
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: shiftier I mean, clowney one but like he's like this

969
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: generation's Version For South carolina clowney elite. PASS rusher i

970
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: remember reading during the season it was like they had

971
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: to give him a, huge raise so it didn't become

972
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: a problem At the, you know by the time the

973
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: portal ended at the end of, the season no one

974
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: had an issue with that kid. Was elite no one

975
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: has a problem paying the elite's. Elite money but when

976
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: you throw one touchdown against good teams and then you

977
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: want to raise when you're already being paid, A premium.

978
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: I think, You know i'm not counting the Fans because i'm.

979
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: With you some people have an issue. With nil some

980
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: people just want to see the best players on their.

981
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: OWN team i think just someone independent, LIKE me i

982
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: don't care. Either way you can make whatever you want,

983
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: to make doesn't matter. To ME but i can't judge an.

984
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: Individual situation and, YOU know I know nico's camp has

985
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: come out and said it was because of. The offense

986
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: HE before i, recorded this he just COMMITTED To ucla.

987
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry making two million Dollars in tennessee with a

988
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: really really good team no state income tax is not

989
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: only financially beneficial in the, you know IN, the sec

990
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: on a team that was just in, the playoffs with

991
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: a coach that's proven he. Could win to Go. To,

992
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: ucla now if you just wanted to, go, HOME okay

993
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: i won't fault you if you wanted to. Go home

994
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: but if this was a business slash, football move it's

995
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: insanity that there's no way not a soul from a,

996
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: football standpoint and making two plus million Dollars at tennessee

997
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: Going to ucla where the Basketball coach mick never stopped

998
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: bitch and moan and said that we don't have. Any

999
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: MONEY so i think it's fair to assume that he

1000
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: took a. Pay decrease and That's just i'm just based

1001
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: on the. Gross number i'm not. Even factoring you, know

1002
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: what he's Gonna, lose california he's. Gonna take so he

1003
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: lost a lot. OF money i think it's fair, to

1004
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: guess take an. Educated guess and from a, football, standpoint

1005
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: now they won four of their last like, six games

1006
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't fin they didn't Make. A bowl tennessee was

1007
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: in the Playoffs Playing, ohio STATE and i would imagine

1008
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: they were a preseason top. Twelve, TEAM now i Did

1009
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: See urban meyer come out and Say that tennessee's gonna,

1010
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: be screwed like who's gonna, play QUARTERBACK which i think

1011
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: is they could have a big downgrade. At quarterback. Very

1012
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: TRUE so i. DON'T know i think this situation is.

1013
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Just MESSY but i Think from, NICO'S standpoint i hope

1014
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: it was his decision and not as quote unquote handlers

1015
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: or his dad, or whatever because they're not the. Ones

1016
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: playing it's like, when people, YOU know i see this

1017
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: a lot, in relationships and a lot of you guys

1018
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: that are my age or older that have seen people go,

1019
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: through divorces that have seen people just had. Messy breakups,

1020
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: you know if you're listening to this in, your twenties

1021
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: as you, live life you're gonna see a lot. Of

1022
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: things but, no ONE and i mean no one can understand.

1023
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: Your relationship they're not sleeping with, the person they're not

1024
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: spending or living with. The person so it's like it's

1025
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: their life, to lead, you know whether, it's parents whether,

1026
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: it's brothers whether, it's friends everyone can give their opinions

1027
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: and takes on, your relationship whether you should get, a

1028
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: divorce whether you should, get married whether you should, break

1029
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: up whatever. It is, it's, like well two people are

1030
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: in the, you know driving the bus and. Riding shotgun

1031
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: everyone else is just a bystanderd and It's like nico's family.

1032
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Or whoever, IT'S like i hope this was the, kid's

1033
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: decision which is a very very difficult spot to be

1034
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: in at nineteen twenty eighteen. YEARS old i even saw a.

1035
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: HEADLINE today i didn't click on, the ARTICLE but i think.

1036
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: It's fair like what THE headline, I saw i Would

1037
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: imagine cam was given pretty. Good Advice cam newton, was

1038
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: like you got to be very careful about getting advice

1039
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of it can. Get bad and it's

1040
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: why you want to be in business if you're going

1041
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: to get an agent or people negotiating your deal with

1042
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: people that know what, they're doing and as a prospect

1043
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: and a revenue general raider like, he is, you Know,

1044
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: the Rosenhaus, the CIAS the i Don't Think tom condon

1045
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: is active As Much, ryan williams that does a lot

1046
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: of Dudes. LIKE mulgeta i mean there would be a

1047
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of people that just know what the fuck. THEY'RE

1048
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: doing i would want to, Be IN but i also

1049
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: then defend, the, kid like how would he? Know that

1050
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: it's just, just messy it. Really is giving your background

1051
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: as a scout For, the eagles could you shed some standout,

1052
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: you recruited scouted you blew. Your, Way additionally i'd love

1053
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: to know the key prospects you were directly. Involved scouting,

1054
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: YOU know i think you know a lot of gms and.

1055
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: Personnel directors there's not any guy that's got to, get

1056
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: drafted especially a GUY with i would say fifth. Sixth round,

1057
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: you know once you get into, Seventh undrafted like IS

1058
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: the gm watching? Those guys but any guy the top

1059
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred prospects on your, draft

1060
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: board not only if you do the AREA like i

1061
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: only did college, ONE year i Did The. West coast

1062
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: BUT if i had a player that had a third

1063
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: round grade, ON them i bet five other people, watched THEM,

1064
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: the gm THE assistant gm scout that crosschecks watching, that

1065
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: position and the. College director so by the time you've

1066
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: watched a player and all these rooms are talking about their.

1067
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Draft board, right now most players now that there is

1068
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: longer you do, an area the more you have a

1069
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: feel for guys and, your sources and maybe you argue

1070
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: if the entire room, hates them but for the, most

1071
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: part you're gonna have some people on the. Guy side

1072
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: let's just say a polarizing player and, you know Non Like,

1073
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: travis hunter and some people are arguing, against them and

1074
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: then you just kind of talk. It OUT but i

1075
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: think this notion that is like one, guy's idea it's

1076
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: just not really how it works because so many people

1077
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: one typically especially, bigger schools LIKE if i Run the

1078
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: eagles and We have Alabama Or ohio state or whoever

1079
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: has a lot Of prospects michigan, Last year you're gonna

1080
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: have multiple human beings go through the program during, the

1081
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: fall so you have multiple sets of eyes that wright

1082
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: the group up and then on top of your decision

1083
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: makers all watching the guy and any factor in the.

1084
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: Coaching STAFF so i think this notion of like diamonds

1085
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: in the rough that died when this little thing Called the,

1086
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: Internet started like the diamond in the rough does not

1087
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: exist because everyone knows who. Everybody is and now there

1088
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: might be people in a draft room that don't agree with, the,

1089
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: PLAYER right i think this guy's better than. You do

1090
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: but that probably happens all. THE time i was more

1091
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: active in terms of Fighting For. Andrews anddejo that's my claim.

1092
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: TO fame I knew Andrews and dejo. Could play he

1093
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: played in the league for like. Ten years he's playing IN.

1094
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: The ufl we didn't even have a write up in

1095
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: the system on Him from Rice. And lewis ridick told me.

1096
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: He SUCKED whenever i, see him we still make fun

1097
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: of him.

1098
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 3: For.

1099
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: That one just Played for Mike Zimmer vikings cowboys for a,

1100
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: long time. Big hitter but in terms of like draft guys,

1101
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: LIKE yeah I Love. Zach ertz, everyone's, like yeah SO?

1102
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Do i, YOU know i, WAS like i Don't Think

1103
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: matt barkley's. That good neither. Do we so now if

1104
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: the decision maker disagrees, with you it. Doesn't MATTER but

1105
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: i think this notion that like one guy's pounding the.

1106
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Table NOWADAYS now i guess they're, you Know. The eagles

1107
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: we had a pretty big. Scouting department some scouting departments.

1108
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Are smaller do you think it would be a smart

1109
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: move for the forty nine ers To trade purdy To

1110
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: the STEELERS. For, tj watt Then the niners Would draft

1111
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: sanders with their. First round shador seems like the type

1112
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: of Quarterback that kyle, would like very accurate, and CHEAP

1113
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: plus Tj And. Nick bosa maybe you're ALLUDING to tj saying,

1114
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: THE DEUCES i i can't, do that as awesome it

1115
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: would be to have those two guys coming off the edge,

1116
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: this Notion and i've seen you're not the first person

1117
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: ask some version. Of this if Everyone Knew shador sanders

1118
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: was gonna be as good As, brock perty there is

1119
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: absolutely no Way The cleveland browns would pass On Shir,

1120
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: door sanders and Definitely the giants would not. Zero chance

1121
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: so both those two teams he would never make it.

1122
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Past three but no one, knows that including the forty.

1123
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: Nine ers so you can't take the risk, of like

1124
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: what if he's not, as good not even remotely, as

1125
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: good which it's kind of the bird in the. Hand,

1126
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: thing now there are variables you have to pay, the guy,

1127
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: but like regardless of the, financial situation you just know

1128
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: you can win games. With them you do not know

1129
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: that with Even, cam ward any of these quarterbacks in

1130
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: this DRAFT so i think there's a big element to.

1131
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: That there what is to become of the running? Back

1132
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: Market ashton genty can probably go to the Transfer, Portal

1133
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Oregon Texas ohio state and make ten. MILLION dollars i

1134
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: don't know if you can make, that MUCH but i

1135
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: hear what, you're saying and be more valuable to a

1136
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: college team THAN an. Nfl Team, najie harris first, round

1137
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: pick only made ten million dollars for his rookie contract

1138
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: for one thousand, yard seasons and most running backs aren't

1139
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: making it on their third to a third. CONTRACT anyways

1140
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: i think you're a little bold with your with, your numbers.

1141
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: YOU know i think the highest paid players in college

1142
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: football right now are making like two or three. Million

1143
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: dollars nico is one, of them and. They're quarterbacks so

1144
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: if you could make ten million dollars for, one SEASON

1145
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: then i think you would Go To ohio state and.

1146
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Do that, you, know heartbeat. NO brainer i think That's

1147
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Like cooper, Flag Money caleb. Williams money so it's. Pretty,

1148
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: rare now it doesn't mean we can't. Get There nigee

1149
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: harris was a late first. Round pick not only did

1150
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: he make ten million dollars for his first. FOUR years

1151
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: i think HE just i don't know what the, guarantee

1152
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: was BUT so i could be speaking out a TURN

1153
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: because i saw like nine, million dollars but if the

1154
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: guarantee was less. Than that, BUT yeah, I MEAN i

1155
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: i don't know what to. TELL you i. DON'T think

1156
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: I think blake korm is a. Good example two. Years

1157
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: ago he stayed when he could have, came out and

1158
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: he stayed, for money and because, it's, Like well i'm

1159
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: going to go on the second day of, the draft

1160
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna pay me two, million dollars then

1161
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. TO stay i think your numbers

1162
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: got so big they don't even need to be. That

1163
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: big who is the one athlete you would choose to

1164
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: have a one on one? Dinner with and why how

1165
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: would you react if seid athlete is a complete asshole

1166
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: to the waiter? Serving y'all that's a. GOOD question i

1167
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: could take two. APPROACHES here i could, Be like I'll Go.

1168
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: Peyton manning, you know we'll just, talk life we'll, talk

1169
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: business we'll, talk football try to become friends. With HIM

1170
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: or i would Take Like patrick Mahomes Or josh allen

1171
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: and try to develop and cultivate, a relationship so like

1172
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: they come on the podcast all, the time and it'd

1173
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: be incredible for. My business so from a, business standpoint

1174
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: it would probably be the right move. TO take i

1175
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: mean Probably Like, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, lamar jackson one

1176
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: of the top quarterbacks in, The League. DAK prescott, i

1177
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: mean just on a sure, numbers Basis If dak prescott

1178
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: is going to be the starting quarterback For the cowboys

1179
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: for the next, several years going Dinner With, dak prescott

1180
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: become buddies, with him and having him come on my

1181
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: podcast all the time would be incredible. For Business, rock purty,

1182
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: same thing Forty, Nine Ers. JORDAN loff, i mean any

1183
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks and big brands would BE so I

1184
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: mean i from a, BUSINESS standpoint i would be crazy

1185
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: not to. Do that from just a, personal standpoint Not

1186
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: that peyton would be bad, for business but in terms

1187
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: of guys playing on a, weekly basis if like they

1188
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: came on my Show, every tuesday that'd be a. No

1189
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: brainer i'd Probably choose Peyton. OVER tom i think you

1190
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: asshole to. THE waiter I just i have a hard

1191
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: time seeing that with most of. These guys but it's

1192
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: pretty big. TURN off i mean unless the Waiters like

1193
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: i'll say, one thing and we went out to dinner

1194
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: last Week in scottsdale and One and i've eaten out,

1195
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: A lot i would say in my couple of years

1196
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: living in. This area they. Charge you and this is

1197
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: like most. BIGGER cities i guess the restaurant scene IS

1198
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: So overu it's just it just cost an arm in

1199
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: a lake or for the. MOST places, i mean there Are,

1200
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: master ros some certain steakhouses that are just, pretty elite but,

1201
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: MOST places i would say the food is very hit.

1202
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Or miss the service, HERE sucks i mean sucks for

1203
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: what they're. Charging, you now is that a product of

1204
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: not enough? People working is it just a product of

1205
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: people not being good at? THEIR job i. DON'T know

1206
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: i don't work in the. Service industry but are you

1207
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: allowed to be rude if it is really? Really, poor

1208
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: now if someone's, just overwhelmed it's not, their fault, totally

1209
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: understand but it would depend on. The context if you're

1210
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: just being a dick to be, a dick, Then yeah

1211
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: i'd be out. On you what do you think about

1212
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: this year's wide? RECEIVER class i know it doesn't have

1213
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: the top end Talent Like marvin HARRISON, and JSN but

1214
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: i do think it's got a lot of guys that

1215
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: are immediately plug and. PLAY starters i do believe that

1216
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: this class has quite a bit of depth. From programs,

1217
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: For example I'm a Missouri Fan. Luth burton i've seen

1218
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: him play in person for, multiple YEARS and i think

1219
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: there's a chance he's a. REAL star i don't understand

1220
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: why he's falling in. THE moncks i do think there

1221
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: are some. Question marks i'll just leave it. AT that

1222
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: i think there are just. Question marks and sometimes when

1223
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: you see a, guy fall you know, the people especially

1224
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: people that are, dialed in, YOU, Know Dj, Matt miller,

1225
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: todd McShay guys that like do this for, a living

1226
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: like mock, the draft. Mock drafts they're talking to a

1227
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of people in, the league and when they just

1228
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: start telling you things that, you know it's NOT really

1229
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: dj style to come out and just say what's really

1230
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: going on about. A Player and i'm not using this

1231
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: as an Example, for luthor but like that's usually why.

1232
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Guys fall and then there's sometimes as simple as, like

1233
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: eah we don't think he's fast, or Whatever because i'm.

1234
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: WITH you i watched him play a lot the last couple.

1235
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Of years you guys. Were good he. WAS good i think,

1236
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: LAST year, I Mean malik nighbors pretty, elite prospect pretty.

1237
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: Damn Good marvin harrison is like underwhelming and he's pretty

1238
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: good based on, one season not all. His fault but

1239
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: if you could redo, THE draft i mean You're Taking

1240
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: elie Neighbors Over. Marvin harrison we've just had pretty good

1241
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver drafts over the last, SEVERAL years, i mean

1242
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: really good wide. Receiver DRAFTS so i think there are

1243
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks with, this, Crew Right travis

1244
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: hunter is like this, hybrid player so, it's like is

1245
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: he even a? WIDE receiver i, don't. KNOW McMillan i

1246
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: think there are some question marks with just, overall speed,

1247
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: you know guys. LIKE him i think there hasn't been

1248
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: a wide receiver drafted in the top ten or twelve

1249
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: that ran as slow as Him Since. Mike Evans Now

1250
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: mike Evans a Hall. Of famer but like it shows

1251
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: you there's a little bit of. An outlier and sometimes

1252
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: when you run in the four fives or four six

1253
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: is even if you dominate in college you get. Discriminated,

1254
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Against now i've seen a lot Of Guys, Keenan Allen,

1255
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: davante Adams, not blazers, elite players, you know in the

1256
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: prime of. Their CAREER so i think you got to

1257
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: be careful. About that but those guys went in the.

1258
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Second ROUND and i, THINK historically, i mean just look at,

1259
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: recent memory some of the best, wide receivers some of

1260
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receivers have not been first. Round,

1261
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: picks now some of them, have Been Right, Jamar Chase,

1262
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Ceedee lamb but there's also that crew OF Like,

1263
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: AJ Brown. Dk Metcalf so terry McLaurin was not a first.

1264
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Round Pick diard, ravens fan what moves do you see

1265
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: us making? This offseason not exactly sure on our. Cap

1266
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: space off the top of, my head you usually don't.

1267
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: Have much me personally would love to send maybe, a

1268
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: first maybe two First, to cleveland but they Never, Give

1269
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: no you're not getting Miles get like the thing is

1270
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: in basketball, AND baseball i can trade a guy whenever

1271
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: because their contract is kind of pay by as you

1272
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: go IN the nfl with, signing bonuses LIKE once i

1273
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: give a guy a huge contract, it's very very difficult

1274
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: to trade the guy and even be willing to. Trade

1275
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: HIM so i think With, the, ravens honestly you guys

1276
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: have been good enough the last couple of years to

1277
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Win A. Super bowl it really hasn't been a. Roster thing,

1278
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: You Know derek henry's a little. OLDER now, i mean

1279
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: you sign him, last year. HE'S old i wouldn't be

1280
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: shocked at all if you draft a, running BACK and

1281
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: i would say the first three rounds you can never

1282
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: have enough, offensive lineman, you know. DEFENSIVE line, I mean

1283
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: i just think you guys are kind of. Meeting potatoes

1284
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: but last year He, drafted wiggins the Corner. From clemson's

1285
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: he looks like he's. Pretty good humphrey's getting, up there

1286
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, in age a lot of wear and

1287
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: tear on, those tires but he's still a really. GOOD player,

1288
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: i mean once they bumped him into. The slot, Last,

1289
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: year hamilton You. GOT roquon, i mean you got a.

1290
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: GOOD team i don't take the. Best players what do.

1291
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: You need it's more. SWEET players, i mean lamar not

1292
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: to turn the ball over in. The playoffs i've Been

1293
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: a steeler fan my entire life and watched the Peak Of,

1294
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: ben roethlisberger and even in the years, of decline they

1295
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: never had a. Contingency plan why do You think tomlin

1296
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: And the steelers front office are so tone death with the.

1297
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK position i actually really don't think. THEY are i

1298
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: just think you find YOURSELF and i use this analogy

1299
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: With the chiefs. And tackles when you, draft late what

1300
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: are you supposed? To? DO listen i didn't Like The candy,

1301
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: pickett pick but they. Did try they took a guy

1302
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: with the twentieth. Overall pick, it backfired and he's not

1303
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: even on. The, team hell he's On his however many teams,

1304
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: he's Been, the Steelers, the eagles and now he's on

1305
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: his third team. And whatever. Three years but four years,

1306
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: they TRIED so i can't say they. Never tried they.

1307
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Did that They Drafted, bason rudolph, well around he gets

1308
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: drafted the third. Last year they brought in those. Two

1309
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: guys now granted they they were, both cheap but still that.

1310
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: They tried neither of. Them worked, right now they're Sniffing Around.

1311
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: AARON rodgers i DON'T really i would imagine they draft

1312
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: another guy. THIS year i give him more effort credit than.

1313
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: YOU do.

1314
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 1: I was listening to a recent episode debating the top

1315
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: corners in. The league Why doesn't Christian goan zalis get

1316
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: thrown into? The mix he missed a chunk of his,

1317
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: rookie season but almost immediately was a. Lockdown corner improved

1318
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: that again in a. Second year interested to hear. YOUR

1319
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: thoughts i think you guys have been. Really shitty so

1320
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: when you've been, that bad what you have the fourth pick?

1321
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: This year you had the third pick. LAST year i

1322
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: mean your games have been unwatchable now for, Two years

1323
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: belichick's Year And dried. Mayo's year like as, A consumer i,

1324
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: LOVE football i do it for. A living after a couple,

1325
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: OF weeks i don't need to watch you. Play football

1326
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: and the only Times like i'm watching you, if, like

1327
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: okay You're Playing josh allen And. The bills, it's like

1328
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: what's the point of?

1329
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: This?

1330
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: Game Right Or aaron, rodgers GAME which i think you guys,

1331
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: did win which. Was cool the one did you guys

1332
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: Beat the jets?

1333
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: Last?

1334
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Year yeah you did right on a walk OFF touchdown,

1335
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: i think or basically a walk off touchdown drove. The

1336
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: field watched, that game but we're not consuming. You right

1337
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: so like Last year stingley became. A star why the team?

1338
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Was good they've been a playoff team two years in.

1339
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: A row patrick's certain how did he kind of take a?

1340
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: Huge jump was team last year was the. Playoff TEAM

1341
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: so i think a huge part of becoming a quote

1342
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: unquote sexy name or whatever or talked about player IN,

1343
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: the nfl it's really hard unless you're a rookie in

1344
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: like set, some records you're drafting the top five back to.

1345
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: Back years we're just we're not going to be as dialed.

1346
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: Into you it's much easier To Watch steph Curry and

1347
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: lebron than it is to watch Like the hawks anyone

1348
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: you like offense. Or defensive rookie of, The year fantasy

1349
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: picks for rookies by, the way got any promos for

1350
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: DraftKings and? Game time? Of Course John Jaway. CHEN baby

1351
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: i think to make, those predictions you kind of got

1352
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: to see where. GUYS go, i mean one thing we've

1353
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: learned the last couple of years who you are playing

1354
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: with as a either running Back, or LIKE if i

1355
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: tell You the chargers draft a running back in the,

1356
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: FIRST round i WOULD say i would probably like that

1357
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: guy to have a chance to be the offensive rookie of.

1358
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: The year right if if you Tell me Denver the

1359
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: chargers draft a running back, Really high i'm kind of gonna. Like, It, right,

1360
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: SO yeah i think the fit for all now defensive

1361
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: rookie of. The year, you KNOW if i Have dual

1362
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: carter goes To, THE giants i means he's GONNA be i,

1363
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know trying. To, THINK yeah i think you just

1364
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 1: gotta see where guys. END up a big Fan from

1365
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: canada always Feel Like. Drew brees this is one of

1366
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: the most underrated and underappreciated athletes. In sports after being

1367
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of some of the most iconic

1368
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: playoff games such As The, minneapolis Miracle The, no Call The,

1369
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: beast Quake The vernon Davis The. Grab game do you

1370
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: think if a handful of these games ended differently and

1371
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: we would have a much different opinion. Of them it

1372
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: always said that It was brady In the, manning ERA

1373
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: but i feel like It undervalues breeze just Because the saints'

1374
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: Defense Made sam bradford look like the next. Great quarterback

1375
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: it's a pretty, GOOD question i. WOULD say, i mean

1376
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: if a couple, GOES away i mean the one what

1377
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: if he Wins The? Super, bowl right the one the,

1378
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: past Interference The, Jared goffire what if they went and

1379
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: they Beat. The patriots it's not Like the patriots were

1380
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: world beaters. That year they Beat, the rams what thirteen,

1381
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: To three so it's fair to say they were beatable in.

1382
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: THAT game i, would. SAY yeah, i mean part of

1383
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: it is Like If DREW if i Told You drew

1384
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: brees Won Two super bowls and went, TO another i

1385
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: think we would look at him a little differently. For

1386
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: sure that's part of the way, Sports works like it's

1387
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: easy to make Fun Of james Harden If james harden

1388
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: was a two time champion and it's IN an, NBA

1389
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: finals mvp know On what i'm, saying that which non

1390
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: player do you think contributed the Most to washington's success?

1391
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: LAST season i think you'd have to say the. HEAD coach,

1392
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: I Mean adam Peters Picked. Jayden DANIELS but i think

1393
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: it's fair to say that everyone was on, board THERE

1394
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: and I think adam's. A stud but, their TEAM and

1395
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: i Would imagine adam would, say this like, last year

1396
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: their roster on paper was NOT a nfc, championship roster

1397
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: So dan quinn getting those guys to believe the, toughness

1398
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: factor just a well rounded. Like operation it's felt like

1399
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: For decades washington was just kind of clueless and PART

1400
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: of i mean a huge reason their owner was, always acting,

1401
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: You Know. Bruce allen they always had too many cooks in.

1402
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: The kitchen and it just feels like they're just a.

1403
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: Normal organization they got A, good gm they got a

1404
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: coach and knows what. He's DOING So i i'd probably Lean. Dan,

1405
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: quinn uh you said you're currently a five handicaps. Five

1406
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: handicap describe the strengths in your weaknesses of your, golf

1407
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: game things you need to. Work, on also where do

1408
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: you Play in arizona in? The Summer assuming arizona is,

1409
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: too hot it's the best time. TO play, i mean

1410
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: if it's one hundred, and fifteen it's difficult. To play

1411
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: but if it's one, oh eight. One ten got the course.

1412
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: TO yourself i can play a teen holes in. Two

1413
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: hours the strength of my, Golf game i'm a. Ball

1414
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: striker weakness anything around the, green putting worset Putter. In

1415
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: america there is not a worst Putter in america than.

1416
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: Your boy it doesn't get. Any worse i've, changed putters it.

1417
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter i'm just not a. Good PUTTER so i

1418
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: can play like a shoot up, seventy FOUR and i

1419
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: can putt like, one hundred and THAT'S why i end

1420
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: up shooting in the, low eighties. PUTTING terrible i would

1421
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: play golf in the heat any day over. The cold

1422
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: Should the vikings take a page Of the eagles book

1423
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: And extend addison Early use the fifth year thought process

1424
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: is based on McCarthy being the guy and capitalizing on his. Rookie,

1425
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: deal yeah not a bad idea. AT all, i mean

1426
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get suspended right for that dy situation from,

1427
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: Last year but he's, a PLAYER so i never against extending. Good,

1428
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: players now he's not gonna, be cheap so YOU have

1429
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: I guess jamar is now technically the highest, paid player

1430
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: but one of the highest paid non quarterbacks in the

1431
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: league at. That position so are you going to Also?

1432
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: Pay addison it's like You're getting addison for fifty. MILLION dollars,

1433
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: i mean it's probably gonna cost you eighty ninety million.

1434
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: Dollars guaranteed you're basically just taking the approach Of. THE

1435
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: bengals i GUESS which i can't. FAULT you, i mean

1436
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: you drafted these, two guys, SO yeah I mean i never.

1437
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Against it now you'd. HAVE to i have to see

1438
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: the number you. Could argue just let it play out

1439
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: because you Drafted At jordan madison what pick forget off

1440
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: the top of. My head, twenty one, twenty four twenty

1441
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: five somewhere, in there so he's. RELATIVELY cheap i just

1442
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: played out. Another year i'm so Sick of, Packer, fans

1443
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: uh just. Being good i'm A lifelong, packer Fan and

1444
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: i'm so sick of just. Being good my eyes don't really.

1445
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: Work anymore it's fine every year with being in quote unquote,

1446
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: the hunt, but damn why won't the front office ever

1447
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: go get a big. Time playmaker we've Won Two super

1448
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: bowls in, my life and every year it's the. Same

1449
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: thing we're building for. The, future well last year they

1450
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: need a veteran voice in the wide, receiver ROOM and

1451
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: i think it showed at the end of. The year

1452
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: what's your opinion on Why the packers don't do shit? Every,

1453
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: year uh that's a. Good question. You know coward's always had,

1454
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: the THEORY and I think he's probably on. To something

1455
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: thing is not having an owner is like a blessing and.

1456
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: A curse not having an owner is incredible because for,

1457
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: whatever reason you have just had very very Capable From

1458
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: ron wolf who's Obviously a Hall, of Famer To ted

1459
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: thompson to Now To, Gouda, kins like these guys, are,

1460
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: good right but there's not someone hanging over them with

1461
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: billions of dollars in a, bank account huge ego and

1462
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: just like going to country clubs where his friends are asking,

1463
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: him like what's the deal with you with?

1464
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: Your?

1465
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: Team right what's? Going on seeing them at. Yacht parties

1466
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: so there's not as much urgency and pressure as when

1467
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: you're just working for one of these super, rich guys

1468
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: especially the older super, rich guys so like they can

1469
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: just kind of slow and stead he wins the race

1470
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: and they feel the least likely to ever just here's

1471
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: two first round Picks For. Miles, Garrett right BUT if

1472
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: i Told You andy reid had Traded For, miles garrett you'd, be,

1473
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: like yeah. Totally Shit Or howie roseman Traded For, Max

1474
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: crosby like TOTALLY if i told You the packers had

1475
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: Traded For, max crosby you'd have to do a. Double take,

1476
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: you're like. No, way now obviously those players. Aren't available

1477
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: but EVEN like dk metcalf like And again, i'm not

1478
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: they to me make more sense Than. The steelers but

1479
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: they would never. Do that that's just not what. They

1480
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: do and you, could argue like, why not why not

1481
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: take some, big swings and they. Just DON'T and i

1482
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: do think that's because there's not someone truly looking over.

1483
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: THEIR shoulder I Know mike, murphy's retiring but it's just not.

1484
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: The same it's not. His money the franchise is, money

1485
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: Shareholders which i'm still always a little confused how. That

1486
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: works but clearly there's not a guy that owns the.

1487
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: TEAM outright i can't wait for gent to be a

1488
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: star and for you to shut the. Fuck up. It's

1489
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: FUNNY all i do is. Just wonder the draft is an.

1490
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: Economic exercise So Like saquon barkley went number, Two Overall

1491
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: saquon barkley Is a Hall of, fame talent no one

1492
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: would argue that was it the right pick For. The.

1493
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,879
Speaker 1: Giants no christian McCaffrey went eighth overall To The. Carolina

1494
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: panthers was that the right pick for THEM like I Love.

1495
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: ASHTON genty I was. I fall i stayed up Late

1496
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: on saturday to watch him countless times play in kind

1497
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: Of Meaningless mountain. West games he is a fantastic and,

1498
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: elite player but, saying, LIKE yeah i would draft a

1499
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: lineman at six and then take a running back in

1500
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: the second or third round is not a shot. At

1501
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: him it's just basic. Football economics and, one thing THIS

1502
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: clip i Did with coward the, OTHER day i don't

1503
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: want to say, went viral but it just got put

1504
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: on a reel and one hundred thousand. People watching people

1505
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: are commented, on it and people, are like this guy's?

1506
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: An idiot What About. Jamir gibbs he's because one thing

1507
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: is like a five eight running back and People Like

1508
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: barry sanders, is short so we're comparing With To. Barry

1509
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: sanders like that's so, it's, like okay if He Becomes,

1510
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: barry sanders what's the likelihood. Of that it's Like cam

1511
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: ward if He Becomes, Patrick, mahomes, like, well yeah, no

1512
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: shit you know that's not how. This works, Guess what

1513
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: i've been alive for. Forty years you know How Many

1514
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: Barry sanders i've? Seen one So Like, jamiir gibbs he's. Five, nine,

1515
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: WELL yeah i Would Take ashon Genty And tyler warren

1516
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: because that's What the lions Got With. Jamiir gibbs they

1517
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: traded from six to twelve and they got picked, thirty

1518
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: seven and they got a tight end Who's Name sam

1519
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: laporta to Go With, jamiir gibbs who again ran a

1520
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: four to. Three, five Now Maybe ashon genty is a

1521
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: four to three. Five guy if you told me that

1522
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: he had ran his forty and ran a four to,

1523
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: THREE five i would be more bullish on the draft

1524
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: pick at twelve if you told me it like picked.

1525
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: Twelve thirteen i'm not. AGAINST it i just think when

1526
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about like, pick, five, six seven seems a

1527
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: little extreme to me in a class loaded with running

1528
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: backs that you can get like a starter in the

1529
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: second or third round and take my starting left tackle

1530
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: or defensive lineman in the. First round That's all i've been,

1531
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: Talking about not that like this. Guy sucks i've never

1532
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: said that. One time he's a really, good player. Awesome

1533
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: player but we've seen three guys get drafted in recent

1534
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: memory in the, top eight and it's been a bumpy

1535
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: ride for the teams that drafted, that guy even though

1536
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: we know they're. All sweet saquon With, The Giants bjon

1537
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: robinson is an. Elite talent, it's, like yeah it's like

1538
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: not working. Out perfectly McCaffrey's On. The niners i've noticed

1539
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: that over the last year, or so podcasters and other

1540
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: sports analysts are wanted to talk more politics or about their.

1541
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,480
Speaker 1: Spiritual beliefs why do you think. THAT is i understand

1542
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: that it's their show and they can talk about whatever.

1543
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: THEY want, i, Know personally i'm more likely to tune

1544
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: in less frequently if. They do this is not specifically

1545
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: About steven a thinking about running. For president what is

1546
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: your Take steven a running? FOR president i do think

1547
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: it's a pretty genius business move, for him just saying

1548
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: this constantly driving more people to. His show i'm sure

1549
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: they just paid him one hundred million dollars so people

1550
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: can make fun of them all you want. AND listen

1551
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: i don't watch, first take but. HIS business, i mean

1552
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: he just got paid one hundred million Dollars by disney

1553
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: to basically Talk About. Lebron james that's what that show.

1554
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: IS too i noticed This whenever I'm at the ONLY

1555
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: time i ever see It is i'm at the gym

1556
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: and one of the main TVs HAS just. Espn on

1557
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: so if you go in, the morning first takes, just

1558
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: on everything Is About. LEBRON james I mean. I do

1559
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: i'm Not A lebron, james GUY and i fucking Hate.

1560
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: THE lakers i do understand him just being like these

1561
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: people will talk about. Me NonStop ovechkin breaks the record

1562
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: and there was a topic Like what ovechkin's record breaking

1563
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: goal Means For lebron james's legacy or it was like this.

1564
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: Is INSANE but I think i think people in quote

1565
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: unquote sports media spend a lot of Time, On twitter

1566
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: like relative to the average person that just Has a,

1567
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: TWITTER account i would say that the majority, of PEOPLE

1568
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: and i would say political media. As well people that

1569
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote in the media spend a large portion Of

1570
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: their internet Going. On twitter and if you Live, on

1571
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: twitter it can make you feel that like this is

1572
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: all everyone's talking. About, NonStop wait sometimes like you're Watching

1573
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,919
Speaker 1: A super bowl or a play off game or whatever

1574
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: the masters it's like clear a lot of people are

1575
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: probably paying attention to this have opinions. On IT but

1576
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: i think on a. Daily basis if you live in,

1577
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: that world it can kind. Of convolude you're thinking of

1578
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: how aggressively people want to talk, about SOMETHING and i

1579
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: think their percentage of the pie chart relative to just

1580
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: some dude that like sells insurance or the electrician that

1581
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: just came over to my house to fix some screwed

1582
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: up things in, my wiring AND just i, don't know

1583
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: normal everyday people that aren't in, the media that have,

1584
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: just jobs don't spend that much time and aren't inundated with.

1585
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: These thoughts so when you hear these, people that let's,

1586
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: face it all like the majority of sports media all

1587
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: lean heavily to. One side so they see their peer

1588
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: group all agreeing with what, they're SAYING that i think

1589
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: they HAVE a I just i'm. WITH you i don't

1590
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: think most people like are in. THE mood i think

1591
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: one thing that people, screw UP and I think twitter

1592
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: has made most of. These people it's hurt their ability,

1593
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: TO just i, don't know look at something through the

1594
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: lens of not. TRYING to i think groupthink definitely creeps

1595
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: in when you spend a lot of time on that

1596
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: app because you're afraid to go outside of, the, box

1597
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: which let's, face it most successful people kind of push

1598
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: the envelope in, any industry and that used to be

1599
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: a huge part. Of media the most successful people in

1600
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: the space and still to this day get Crushed, on,

1601
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: Twitter RIGHT and, i, THINK honestly i think that has,

1602
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: a huge huge problem. FOR people i guess quote unquote

1603
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: podcasters in terms of talking About POLITICS. STEVEN a, i

1604
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of money, in politics so if

1605
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: you just want to talk, ABOUT it i guess if

1606
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: you're using him as an example from a, Spiritual standpoint

1607
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: i'm not QUITE sure i follow on. THAT one i.

1608
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: DON'T listen i listened to a decent amount of sports

1609
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: stuff and don't hear it. That often but maybe we're

1610
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: just listening to. Different STUFF but I think i think

1611
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: people just being. TOO online, I mean i really believe that, it's,

1612
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: like guys you guys got to get to fucking get

1613
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: to the real world every once in, a WHILE and

1614
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: i think. It can it definitely started the downfall of

1615
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: like of radio sports talk radio is like ten, years

1616
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: ago a lot of people just thought things that were

1617
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 1: Big on twitter or what people wanted to hear driving

1618
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: around their car and just not, a fact now some things.

1619
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: Are Right If adam SCHEFTER tweets i Don't Know derek

1620
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: carr has been traded To The, pittsburgh steelers, WELL yeah

1621
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: i mean it's let's talk. About that but on an

1622
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: everyday topic and responding the laziest thing, is, like well

1623
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: this is what people are saying because you saw like. Three,

1624
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: comments no don't get, ME wrong i like scrolling Comments

1625
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: on instagram or whatever as much as the. Next guy

1626
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: but to think that that is the subset or repris sense,

1627
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: HUMAN beings i think you've got to be very careful,

1628
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: doing THAT and i think a lot of people make,

1629
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: that mistake and it's why there's only a small percentage

1630
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: of people having success on a lot of, these platforms

1631
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: and definitely would success making any money because people. Tune

1632
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: off and, To me i'm, with you, it's like probably

1633
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to hear your take on Like the warriors game,

1634
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: last night and you're like going on some whatever. ABOUT

1635
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: whatever i, don't care and one like this is entertainment.

1636
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: And listen obviously there are crossovers, of THIS but i

1637
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: do think people lose sight of that of the, entertainment

1638
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: factor like this is, a release like our lives. Are

1639
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: stressful there's a lot going on no matter what, you're

1640
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: doing whether it's, your children whether it's, your relationship whether

1641
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: it's the bills you have. TO pay i mean the stress,

1642
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: of like dude comes over to, MY house i need

1643
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: To Do. Circuit breaker, i'm like it's? How much and

1644
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: they're just it's just. Like geez so the LAST thing

1645
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: i want to Do if i'm about to take my

1646
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: dog on a walk is listen some guy Ranting and

1647
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: raven pissed OFF when i don't even believe that he's.

1648
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: Pissed off, IT'S like i just think you're doing this

1649
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: like performative ART that i think you have a false

1650
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: sense of how many people even enjoy. This shit but other,

1651
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:19,919
Speaker 1: Than That, Ashton genty i'm. A hater the volume