Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're fully cleared for training camp.
Speaker 2: We're off and running.
Speaker 1: I'm beyond lucky today to be joined by Steve Weisch
Speaker 1: and Colleen Wolf before they venture around the country for
Speaker 1: inside training camp.
Speaker 2: They're in the Chris Westley podcast. That's right.
Speaker 3: We were just comparing schedules. We're getting ready. Are you
Speaker 3: do you have your polos set?
Speaker 4: I've got my polosh huh.
Speaker 5: I'm very glad we got We also found out that
Speaker 5: I'm actually gonna be like filling in for Got.
Speaker 4: She's got other stuff to do.
Speaker 3: I couldn't physically get to Detroit without a private jet.
Speaker 3: There were no flights that could get me there from
Speaker 3: where I was coming from.
Speaker 2: My wife is in six cities in six days.
Speaker 4: I'm down, though.
Speaker 5: I like, I love I love I love that Detroit,
Speaker 5: like I loved the Shy and I like going to
Speaker 5: the facility. So it's gonna be my first time there
Speaker 5: in a couple of years. I'm looking forward to you know,
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell and the whole gang, Aaron Glen in the group.
Speaker 1: Well, we might try to get you from the road
Speaker 1: as as if you're not busy enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Actually told to bring my special podcast, Mike just in case.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first time Steve Wye has
Speaker 1: joined NFL Daily, and we'll make it to the end
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 2: We hope he's doing.
Speaker 1: Another show later, but there's a few hours in between,
Speaker 1: so we'll we'll see. If it's a wolf Blitzer situation
Speaker 1: where you're on social having a wolf Splitzer and then
Speaker 1: an hour later, like announcing.
Speaker 4: Would not be the first time, would not be the
Speaker 4: first time.
Speaker 6: But before we do that, let's do some news. Yes
Speaker 6: for light people, I like it cool.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Green Packers, which gave us a
Speaker 1: little something to talk about. On Monday morning, Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: who's in the building, was revealed that he will not
Speaker 1: be practicing. Brian Gudakuanzt, the general manager of the Packers,
Speaker 1: seem pretty cool with it. And this is him talking
Speaker 1: about the situation.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so I think it was Saturday night. You know,
Speaker 7: they kind of informed us and until we get something
Speaker 7: done that he would not practice again. So unless something
Speaker 7: gets done here before you know, practice starts here pretty soon,
Speaker 7: he will not be practicing. Yeah, I think so, but again,
Speaker 7: you never know. I mean, we're working really hard to
Speaker 7: get that done. I think it's really important for us.
Speaker 7: I'm optimistic. These are big deals. It takes time. They're
Speaker 7: not as you know, easy, as as some people may think.
Speaker 1: M I I take optimism from this. It is not
Speaker 1: much of a story. I don't think if Jordan Love
Speaker 1: is in the building and they're talking about it that
Speaker 1: openly and he's even saying optimistic that that it's going
Speaker 1: to happen soon, he'll be on the field before too long.
Speaker 5: You don't hear team exectly as their coaches talk about, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's not going to practice until we get the deal done.
Speaker 5: You typically hear that from the player or the player's
Speaker 5: agent saying, hey, you know, we're just going to sit
Speaker 5: this basically sit this one out until we get it completed.
Speaker 5: So it's clear their open lines of communication that they've
Speaker 5: got a good relationship right there. And you know, look,
Speaker 5: they just got Kenny Clark. Yeah right, They're not going
Speaker 5: to get that done unless they have the parameters in
Speaker 5: place for the quarterback contract. So this isn't going to
Speaker 5: be anything that's going to drag out for several more days.
Speaker 3: I guess the hope would be that they get it
Speaker 3: done by the end of the week. I would imagine
Speaker 3: that would happen. But Gudacun sort of threw volunteered that
Speaker 3: he was confident that the deal would get done before
Speaker 3: training camp. He just threw that out there, so he
Speaker 3: kind of just volunteered that timeline on his own. But
Speaker 3: once the Kenny Clark deal got done, it's like, this
Speaker 3: is the next step in the deals. And of course,
Speaker 3: like Jordan Love, he was at practice. No one expected
Speaker 3: him to practice if he didn't have the deal done.
Speaker 8: He was smiling. He walked out with Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 3: And the real concern for me is that he was
Speaker 3: wearing sweatpants in Green Bay in July and that real
Speaker 3: field temperature was like eighty three degrees. So that feels
Speaker 3: like that's my worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: But that's the Mike McDaniel thing.
Speaker 1: Though he wears the hoodie in Miami at like ninety
Speaker 1: seven degrees.
Speaker 3: I know, you want to sweat, you want to get
Speaker 3: the toxins out, but.
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, the game's where the dry fit hoodie, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, I wear that an inside training camp, so
Speaker 5: get scorched, right. But I've seen some people like with
Speaker 5: the Houston Texans where it's just oppressive, Oh my god,
Speaker 5: like put on hoodies under their gear when they're practicing,
Speaker 5: Like some guys just love doing that.
Speaker 1: So I look at this situation with him showing up
Speaker 1: and think he must know. I wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: he gets as much money as like any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. We've talked about how the contracts are
Speaker 1: all sort of the same, which is crazy because you
Speaker 1: could be Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: or you could be Jordan Love who just had like
Speaker 1: a seven eight game hot streak and you basically get
Speaker 1: the same contract. But he's not there in smile Aileen
Speaker 1: unless he knows that's coming. And to be clear, real
Speaker 1: trading camp hasn't even started for them. It's like rookies
Speaker 1: in quarterbacks, so that kind of gave another soft deadline
Speaker 1: for them to get the deal done.
Speaker 3: And he's expected to participate in the meetings too, so
Speaker 3: it's like he's not going to go out there and
Speaker 3: risk getting hurt.
Speaker 1: With all timing guarantees, it's a holden. You mentioned Kenny
Speaker 1: Clark getting a big contract. He had East signed a
Speaker 1: three year extension worth sixty four million. He's getting something
Speaker 1: like twenty nine million dollars in twenty twenty four pay.
Speaker 1: And the most interesting thing about what's happening with Love
Speaker 1: and what's happening with Clark to me is like, this
Speaker 1: is what good organizations do when they have cap space.
Speaker 1: Is great, we built up all this. There's too much
Speaker 1: cap space out there. Teams waste their cap space. They
Speaker 1: do it because they know these sort of contracts are
Speaker 1: coming up, and then they can just front load it,
Speaker 1: put all that cash as much as possible into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four because they have the room for it, and
Speaker 1: open up more room for next year and be in
Speaker 1: the same situation. The Packers are kind of the ultimate
Speaker 1: draft and developed team. Yes, even though Brian Goudokunz looked
Speaker 1: a lot older in that clip suddenly than when he
Speaker 1: took that job, I think that was dealing with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I think he's got to feel good that, like, this
Speaker 1: is what they do, they draft and develop.
Speaker 5: I think Devanta Adams, who have an argument with your
Speaker 5: point there about that paying even when they do have
Speaker 5: cap space available.
Speaker 4: However, we're talking about your Love and Kenny Clark.
Speaker 5: Look, Kenny Clark I mean, this guy's one of the
Speaker 5: best defensive linemen in the NFL. Defensive tackles are getting
Speaker 5: paid nowadays, and you know, you just talk about the
Speaker 5: massaging of the cap. If you've got the cash, and
Speaker 5: we just saw about from the Packers public disclosures.
Speaker 4: They've got the cash, Yeah, you go ahead and spend it.
Speaker 4: Then you finesse the cap over that.
Speaker 5: But they've got the cash to spend, go ahead and
Speaker 5: get it out of the way because they're not paying
Speaker 5: that many other players right now. But like you said,
Speaker 5: this is why the Packers continue to keep themselves competitive
Speaker 5: because they know exactly what they're doing and how to
Speaker 5: manage their cash and their cap, but most importantly, their people.
Speaker 3: And Kenny Clark is managing the Packers well because the
Speaker 3: fact that he's at this point now signed multiple big
Speaker 3: deals with them.
Speaker 8: You don't see that so often.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's signed three total contracts with them, two
Speaker 3: massive deals with them. He's completely worth every single penny.
Speaker 3: He's so reliable, he's always available, He key's the defense.
Speaker 3: He's only twenty eight years old. Like, I just think
Speaker 3: that it was so smart of him to bet on himself.
Speaker 3: Watch the market for defensive linemen go up and up
Speaker 3: and then not lock himself into anything long term. And
Speaker 3: now he has his second huge deal. It's great for him.
Speaker 1: They have an interesting defense to watch because I feel
Speaker 1: like they've underachieved for years compared to the talent that
Speaker 1: they've had. And they bring in this guy jeff Halfway
Speaker 1: from BC College who's really thought of as a innovative
Speaker 1: schematic guy. And sometimes we saw with Brian Flores in
Speaker 1: the division last year, like sometimes a great defensive scheme
Speaker 1: can lift you up quicker.
Speaker 8: A Kyle Shanahan guy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and they're also saving money because their receivers
Speaker 1: are so ridiculously cheap. They now have four receivers they
Speaker 1: don't have to pay for at least another year, maybe
Speaker 1: another two years. That their total contracts are adding up
Speaker 1: to what one fifteenth of Justin Jefferson's contract for like
Speaker 1: one year.
Speaker 2: And that's for.
Speaker 1: Four guys like team like wide receivers such a premium position.
Speaker 1: It's almost like having a rookie quarterback contract, having a
Speaker 1: rookie receiver contract, especially when you got four of them.
Speaker 5: Well said, you know, Plus they're running backs basically on
Speaker 5: one of your deals as well. So next year they'll
Speaker 5: be able to free up cap space there and continue
Speaker 5: to rotate at what they consider premium positions on what they.
Speaker 4: Want to pay.
Speaker 1: He said, well said, I'm just well said, well done,
Speaker 1: he said something nice to me.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 8: That's great, Good job, Greg, that's important.
Speaker 1: I really need the positive affirmation right now. All right,
Speaker 1: Moving on to our next story talking quarterbacks. John Harbaugh
Speaker 1: really caught my attention on Sunday at Ravens training camp,
Speaker 1: and I want to dive into it more with you
Speaker 1: guys here. This was the first full team session that
Speaker 1: the Ravens had. They're actually practicing. Their veterans are out there,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are out there. We know the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game teams. I know you'll be there. You guys
Speaker 1: will both be there. Okay, So Chicago, Wolf, Yes.
Speaker 4: Wolf, Lucia's baby. One of the best day house today
Speaker 4: in the country.
Speaker 1: We've got four teams fully practicing as we record. Every
Speaker 1: other team will be arriving to camp on Tuesday this
Speaker 1: week and practicing by Wednesday, so we're off and running.
Speaker 1: But it was almost like John Harbaugh had an answer,
Speaker 1: a speech ready for the first time someone brought up
Speaker 1: Lamar this year. It was like a stump speech. It
Speaker 1: was three minutes long. It'd be kind of crazy to
Speaker 1: play the whole thing. But let's listen to my favorite
Speaker 1: thirty seconds of John Harbaugh's vision for Lamar.
Speaker 9: We're building another offense for it in twenty three and
Speaker 9: twenty four going forward right, the next iteration of our
Speaker 9: offense around Lamar Jackson. Because, in my opinion, the vision
Speaker 9: the vision for Lamar Jackson, and it's a vision. It's
Speaker 9: something you see it like it's already happened. You can
Speaker 9: see it like it's already been done. The victory has
Speaker 9: already been won when you pour into a vision. And
Speaker 9: the vision that we have together is a Lamar Jackson
Speaker 9: is going to become and be known and be recognized
Speaker 9: as the greatest quarterback ever to play in the history
Speaker 9: of the National Football League.
Speaker 8: He gets my vote.
Speaker 2: Wow, John does or Lamar?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 3: Yeah, both do at this point. He's a great campaign manager.
Speaker 3: I just love that he came out swinging, so you
Speaker 3: knew that he was just like waiting and waiting and workshopping,
Speaker 3: and I mean all of that just came straight from
Speaker 3: the heart. But he was just like ready to go
Speaker 3: as soon as anyone asked him about Lamar, and I
Speaker 3: do love too that Ryan Mink, who is the Ravens
Speaker 3: editorial director. He tweeted out a statistical comparison between Lamar
Speaker 3: and Tom Brady and their first six years in the league,
Speaker 3: and Lamar outo outperformed Brady in completion percentage, passing yards
Speaker 3: per attempt, passing touchdowns, which I thought was interesting because
Speaker 3: obviously Brady has more passing yards in those six years
Speaker 3: than Lamar had right now, but only two more interceptions
Speaker 3: than Brady had thrown and every single rushing category obviously.
Speaker 8: So it's like the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Rings are the thing that Lamar and the Ravens really
Speaker 3: need to put this over the top for everyone, I
Speaker 3: think to finally get behind Lamar in that category.
Speaker 4: That's a big thumb on the scale, though, when you've
Speaker 4: got the.
Speaker 1: Three three and the fact that those were the worst
Speaker 1: six years of Tom Brady's career. Yeah, be fair, like
Speaker 1: Lamar's one is two for Lamar, I mean, he won
Speaker 1: three Super Bowls, but yeah, maybe Lamar gets better and
Speaker 1: has that second, third, fourth phase that Tom Brady had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not take anything away from what Lamar has done.
Speaker 5: First off, this reminded me you know, John Harborough. I've
Speaker 5: just finished watching Supercell on Netflix with a little futuristic
Speaker 5: time travel where they come back little Butterfly fl It's
Speaker 5: really good, really good man. It's buns of English Jamaicans.
Speaker 5: But you know, I've heard John Harbball, believe it or not,
Speaker 5: say this before. This is not new. I was in
Speaker 5: a production meeting where the Ravens I believe they were
Speaker 5: playing the Browns a couple of years ago, and.
Speaker 2: Just in our room, you were doing sideline.
Speaker 5: I was doing sidelines and John was so passionate. This
Speaker 5: was when Lamar had not It was the year before
Speaker 5: he signed his big deal, and he was It means
Speaker 5: everything to me to make sure that Lamar is a champion,
Speaker 5: that a guy who came up like him, who speaks
Speaker 5: like him, who looks like him, and who plays like
Speaker 5: him becomes a great, great quarterback in this league and
Speaker 5: wins championships, because what that would do for so many
Speaker 5: other people. To Harball was like, this is why we
Speaker 5: love him. It was it was such a personal connection
Speaker 5: where I was like, hey, you know you talk about
Speaker 5: the personal and business when it comes to him getting
Speaker 5: a new deal, like this is personal for John Hartlah
Speaker 5: this is going to get done and at some point,
Speaker 5: because of all the players on his team, he is
Speaker 5: firmly and emotionally invested in Lamar.
Speaker 1: It reminded me listening to that clip in the whole
Speaker 1: three minutes that I would suggest go listen to it
Speaker 1: a ravend zachlm.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: It was a build up because it's him talking about
Speaker 1: how personally he takes the criticism that's out there of Lamar.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a ton of criticism right now,
Speaker 1: but he definitely had his worst game of the year
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship. I'm the biggest Lamar Jackson fan
Speaker 1: there is other than Patrick Claybond, and.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. He had a bad game.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't deny that, but yeah, that speech kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me of Jim Harbob because he loves his quarterbacks
Speaker 1: more than anything. And it was like a two and
Speaker 1: a half minute rise to that point where where.
Speaker 2: He is like it was already written that he's.
Speaker 1: Going to be like the greatest quarterback of all time
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, I mean he is playing at
Speaker 1: the same time of Patrick Mahomes, but I get it.
Speaker 2: He is your guy.
Speaker 1: And the thing that really struck me is this is
Speaker 1: year two of our second phase with Lamar, and we've
Speaker 1: built the whole idea of everything we do is to
Speaker 1: build the best offense possible around Lamar. And I think
Speaker 1: you saw different Lamar Jackson last year. He's not as
Speaker 1: great a runner as he used to be. He's like
Speaker 1: ten percent worse than when he was just the greatest
Speaker 1: runner of all time at the quarterback position. But he's
Speaker 1: much better I think thrown over to the middle of
Speaker 1: the field going through his reads. He's always been great
Speaker 1: playing from the pocket, but I think this offense accentuates
Speaker 1: those strengths that we're already there and it makes them
Speaker 1: even better.
Speaker 3: And now he's taking on Akman for the letter eight,
Speaker 3: so it's just like, yeah it Chad's next.
Speaker 5: Remember though, he's got three new offensive linemen they've got
Speaker 5: incorporated into the offense.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 5: You know, interior guys, got you got a guard. You
Speaker 5: have a guard garden right tackle. So that's going to
Speaker 5: be interesting to see how they start the season. But
Speaker 5: I mean, again, the Ravens are such great talent developers
Speaker 5: all up on their offensive a defensive line.
Speaker 4: This is nothing new.
Speaker 5: To that.
Speaker 1: We also got to get him some chicken noodle soups
Speaker 1: the otrin because he missed another day of training camp
Speaker 1: with illness, which has just often happened to him throughout
Speaker 1: his CA.
Speaker 2: Just I don't know his immune system, but.
Speaker 8: He's a lot of things going around though right now.
Speaker 1: There is a lot and yeah, to be fair, he
Speaker 1: had been knocked out a couple of times from practicing
Speaker 1: from playing because of that. Marlon Humphrey, by the way,
Speaker 1: I just I just read some reports that he's out
Speaker 1: there practicing looking great, and a healthy Marlon Humphy really
Speaker 1: helps them. And Eddie Jackson was signed former Bear got
Speaker 1: a big support from his former teammate Roquan Smith.
Speaker 2: So just something else I watched.
Speaker 3: There, Eddie Jackson signing because yeah, he was with Roquan
Speaker 3: in Chicago, and he played with Marlon Humphrey at Alabama too,
Speaker 3: and I guess Derrick Henry too, So there's some nice
Speaker 3: little connections already.
Speaker 2: That was the first one of these.
Speaker 1: Eric DaCosta and Ozzie Newsom used to do it like
Speaker 1: late signings. These guys are like, wait, how did they
Speaker 1: get them? And then you look up and it's the
Speaker 1: divisional round and Eddie Jackson's playing forty five snaps for them,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that guy was available until late July.
Speaker 5: It's such an Ozzy Newsome move. I mean, first off,
Speaker 5: he loves his Alabama players. He's in Alabama lum Alabama
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer. But you know, you look with the
Speaker 5: even have done too when they go out and get
Speaker 5: Marcus Williams from the Saints, like they love these veteran safeties.
Speaker 5: Now now they got to add him to Kyle Hamilton,
Speaker 5: who I think is going to be in the running
Speaker 5: for the Defensive Player of the Year. And the way
Speaker 5: they build their team up the middle of the defense,
Speaker 5: you know, from Pierce to Roquan Smith, you know, with
Speaker 5: these safeties, their new defensive coordinator or I'm blanking his
Speaker 5: first name, zach rr zak Hrer, right, he's a former
Speaker 5: inside linebacker, former inside linebacker coach of building it through
Speaker 5: the middle is going to be important to him.
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to roll through these last three
Speaker 1: items quickly, starting with Kevin O'Connell, who just is really
Speaker 1: all about JJ McCarthy yet he said Sam Darnold is
Speaker 1: going to take the majority of the first team reps
Speaker 1: and he is going to be very careful with his
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's the former quarterback in me,
Speaker 7: but I will not allow any factors outside of what's
Speaker 7: best for JJ and what's best to help the Minnesota
Speaker 7: Vikings win.
Speaker 2: In regards to the answer to that question, that's just how.
Speaker 4: I feel about it.
Speaker 3: Answer ever, Yeah, Kevin O'Connell, it's never been seen before.
Speaker 2: This is unpressed bottle it.
Speaker 1: You're saying he's a great guest to have because you
Speaker 1: don't have to ask too many questions.
Speaker 3: Well, it's he's a great conversationalist, like you can. He's
Speaker 3: a talker, so he will really if you ask him
Speaker 3: one question, he will give you a beefy answer to it.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't a surprise that that he's saying that
Speaker 1: that he's not going to change the plan. The plan
Speaker 1: at most is going to be to give him first
Speaker 1: team reps JJ McCarthy half, you know, a week in
Speaker 1: ten days in if he looks good, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be right away. So for now it's going to
Speaker 1: be darnald and we will see. Joe Burrow was fully
Speaker 1: cleared for contact. His coach, Zach Taylor, announced on Monday,
Speaker 1: which is great news. He just has not had a
Speaker 1: fully healthy training camp virtually.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: They were really excited about that last year and then
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. And he's a guy who I think
Speaker 1: needs the reps and the you know, he relies on
Speaker 1: rhythm and timing. They said they might play him a
Speaker 1: little bit in the preseason.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: And Marius Mims, their first round pick signed, which means
Speaker 1: every rookie deal has done, no holdouts for the rookies.
Speaker 1: And lastly, cam Akers former ram signed with the Texans.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon's been a little banged up, right, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: a little I'm a little lower, I think than consensus
Speaker 1: on the whole Joe Mixon really idea like, is Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon better than Devin Singletary at this same big Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon I always have been. But he's not the same
Speaker 1: guy that he used.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just know that the Bengals were trying to,
Speaker 5: you know, rotate him to kind of let him make
Speaker 5: it to the season last year.
Speaker 4: But he's a monster man good. He's going to be
Speaker 4: very good in that offense.
Speaker 8: I just saw C. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud and him trying or c J. Stroud and Cam
Speaker 3: Akers coming up with a new handshake. So that is
Speaker 3: something I will be watching in training camp.
Speaker 2: Yes, Cam Akers trying to make that team.
Speaker 1: You feel for him just hasn't been the same guy
Speaker 1: since injuries took him out, but he was very grateful
Speaker 1: for another chance. I'm excited to wrap this up with
Speaker 1: the news because it means we're getting to our segment,
Speaker 1: like we're all about good ideas generally, Like we're three
Speaker 1: of the smartest football minds out there. I would say
Speaker 1: thank you, Greg Trio, but we're instead today I gotta
Speaker 1: come up with some bad ideas for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: fourth season, just things that you should not do.
Speaker 2: Will do that after the.
Speaker 10: Break, Johncey, it's very Indiana Jones like, that's what it's giving.
Speaker 1: A bit a gigantic boulder that's coming after us.
Speaker 2: I like it. It's a new one. Go heavy on
Speaker 2: the drums.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some bad ideas, folks. A lot
Speaker 1: of good ideas being thrown out on this podcast, a
Speaker 1: lot of good ideas. As we're getting into training camp.
Speaker 1: It's hope season. We're gonna do some bad ideas, just
Speaker 1: things that we don't want to see going into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Let's start with Connie and see if he
Speaker 1: understood the exercise.
Speaker 3: Listen, of course I did. Glass half empty is like
Speaker 3: Mikey faults. So you know what, Hopefully this segment here
Speaker 3: isn't one of the bad ideas.
Speaker 8: Oh no, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Because we did have two options. We were going to
Speaker 1: go one way, and Connie was like, you know, said
Speaker 1: one way.
Speaker 3: And I basically picked both and then was like, no,
Speaker 3: let's do this one A torpedo in one of them. Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: So I do have some other bad ideas real quick
Speaker 3: before I get into my two NFL ones, just like
Speaker 3: more of a PSA good Don't go to the beach
Speaker 3: without sunscreen. I have been using so much allo I
Speaker 3: and taking anti inflammatories. My back is so burnt right
Speaker 3: now that we'll see problem.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Don't file for a tax extension. It's gonna haunt you
Speaker 3: the whole summer. Don't let your college roommate come to
Speaker 3: town full stop, but definitely don't let them order pizza
Speaker 3: or drinks. Don't buy anything on the internet after midnight.
Speaker 3: Don't order one or every dessert on the menu. Don't
Speaker 3: go to a plant nursery without a plan, don't get
Speaker 3: the hollandaise sauce ever, and above all else, just don't
Speaker 3: forget the sunscreen.
Speaker 8: Please.
Speaker 4: That's strong.
Speaker 5: I thought you're gonna don't forget to do your ninjao
Speaker 5: your computer updates.
Speaker 3: Finally up to date with my ninja O compliance training. Y.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is our in house work program where we
Speaker 1: learn not to uh open security and yes.
Speaker 3: About fishing an identity theft, all of it.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: I got the email that said they were they were
Speaker 1: shutting me off. They're shutting my computer off unless I
Speaker 1: do it. I got it done. Those are great, except
Speaker 1: for the plant nursery plant like who you can't have
Speaker 1: a plan. You got to go and just see what's there.
Speaker 1: I understand that you're.
Speaker 3: I can't a plant lady, and I at least, but
Speaker 3: way too many and nowhere to put them.
Speaker 2: It's like going to the farmers market. You gotta see
Speaker 2: what's fresh.
Speaker 8: That's fair, okay.
Speaker 3: So I as far as actual bad ideas for the
Speaker 3: NFL season, I really don't love the fact that Chicago
Speaker 3: doesn't have a veteran quarterback on the roster at all.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying to win a competition or anything
Speaker 3: like that talent wise, but just someone in house with
Speaker 3: the experience to be in that room. I mean a
Speaker 3: lah Josh McCown, except he's an assistant with the Viking Division.
Speaker 4: But someone and.
Speaker 3: Exactly And when he was there with Nick Foles and
Speaker 3: Justin Fields, it sounded like there were some there was
Speaker 3: some friction a little bit, so a different regime in
Speaker 3: the front office. But I don't know if maybe past
Speaker 3: history with a rookie quarterback and veterans in there was
Speaker 3: something that the Bears thought about going into this. But
Speaker 3: it just feels so curious because you have Baigent as
Speaker 3: the backup, who was the undrafted free agent last year,
Speaker 3: he performed well enough to be a backup, and then
Speaker 3: Brett Rippian is the only true veteran quarterback there. His
Speaker 3: only start with the Rams last year was so disastrous
Speaker 3: that he was cut two days later. And then you
Speaker 3: have an undrafted rookie Austin Reid in there. So like
Speaker 3: entering the season the most seasoned quarterback on the roster
Speaker 3: has started four NFL games, and you have Caleb Williams,
Speaker 3: who will be under so much pressure both physically and
Speaker 3: figuratively because the offensive line has a lot of unknowns,
Speaker 3: and the pass catchers are all new aside from Dj Moore,
Speaker 3: So there's just a lot in flux for a rookie
Speaker 3: to have to figure out and just be thrown into
Speaker 3: the fire with no seasoned person in that room. To
Speaker 3: I kind of roll my eyes when we talk about
Speaker 3: mentors in the quarterback rooms, but in this situation, it
Speaker 3: would be nice if someone was in there that wasn't
Speaker 3: an actual threat, but that was there almost as like
Speaker 3: an assistant assistant there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, it's the Chase Daniel, it's Jacoby Brissette,
Speaker 5: it's guys like that. It helps because there will be
Speaker 5: situations that these guys will experience on and off the
Speaker 5: field where a veteran voice can get them.
Speaker 1: In work habits and just knowing what it's like to
Speaker 1: go through an NFL season. I think that's a great one.
Speaker 1: That that was a bad idea by them. I mean,
Speaker 1: like a guy like Tyler Huntley, he was out there.
Speaker 1: He's the fourth quarterback with the brown that Browns that
Speaker 1: would have been, which is interesting by the way that
Speaker 1: they have so many quarterbacks, just just saying.
Speaker 8: Where's Ryancehill right now?
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannell is unsigned, which which is interesting right now,
Speaker 1: he might be the type of guy I don't know
Speaker 1: that maybe he wouldn't be as willing right now, like
Speaker 1: he wanted to play. Maybe he told teams that and
Speaker 1: then I would understand in that case why they wouldn't
Speaker 1: sign him specifically, But case Keenum was out there, he
Speaker 1: would have been a nice one done in most of
Speaker 1: his career. He's got to be in Houston, and you
Speaker 1: never know, someone could get cut loose in camp, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know who would be like a Nick Mullins type,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that is a that is a missing piece.
Speaker 1: And as much as I like the Bears and the
Speaker 1: things they have around him, like if there's no offensive
Speaker 1: line or at least there's a Q question on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, I don't know if the defense is going
Speaker 1: to be as good as people think. It's a great
Speaker 1: situation around Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: But that is one bad idea.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out a bad idea, and
Speaker 1: that's making Tom Brady the number one Fox broadcaster, putting
Speaker 1: him on the number one team right away, and the
Speaker 1: response will be like, well, you can't pay him all
Speaker 1: that money? Well, like, why not? You can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want with you. You can't pay him all that
Speaker 1: money and make them number two. The number two games
Speaker 1: are great, maybe more people will watch the number two
Speaker 1: games and there won't be as much pressure. I just
Speaker 1: think it's so ironic and it seems so just like
Speaker 1: a flip of where Tom Brady is in terms of
Speaker 1: his life that he hasn't considered how similar this is
Speaker 1: to his situation with Drew Bledsoe coming into the NFL.
Speaker 1: Because back then, I remember Tom Curran was first. I mean,
Speaker 1: he almost made his career off this first on the
Speaker 1: whole idea of like this, Brady kids better than Bledsoe,
Speaker 1: you know, they shouldn't give the job. And he would
Speaker 1: call Drew Bledsoe the hood orm because they would just
Speaker 1: put Drew Bledsoe's contract that they gave him kind of
Speaker 1: under weird, just like trying to make the franchise look
Speaker 1: better at a time when it wasn't. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract and put that to distract everyone
Speaker 1: from the bad card that was behind it. And that
Speaker 1: was his one hundred million dollar contract, and Drew bleds
Speaker 1: at that point wasn't really earning his spot in the
Speaker 1: way that you would think. And here's Tom Brady as
Speaker 1: a player who comes up and earns it. That was
Speaker 1: greg Olsen, Like greg Olsen earned that spot. And everyone's
Speaker 1: going to be listening to the Number two games and
Speaker 1: they're gonna realize greg Olsen's better than Tom Brady. And
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong in tom Brady's star power and
Speaker 1: he'll be great and he won't be bad at anything,
Speaker 1: and it'll quiet it down. And that's fine if I'm
Speaker 1: proven wrong. But I really doubt day one he's going
Speaker 1: to be better. And he could have still been on
Speaker 1: big time games, the Number two games. Everyone watches the
Speaker 1: Number two crew too. It's just at like one pm
Speaker 1: instead of four pm. It would have been fine. But
Speaker 1: if he's bad, or if he's just average, it puts
Speaker 1: him in a spot where it's like you didn't you
Speaker 1: didn't really earn this, and as you get better, people
Speaker 1: aren't going.
Speaker 2: To have as much pain.
Speaker 4: So you're you're calling him Drew Brees.
Speaker 2: That's a bad idea.
Speaker 4: You put him in the Drew Brees category potentially.
Speaker 1: I mean the Drew Brees was Drew Brees set up
Speaker 1: to succeed there too, Like he was in a tough
Speaker 1: spot maybe if he had just been like the number
Speaker 1: four or five Fox crew, he could have worked his
Speaker 1: way into he's trying to get back into him.
Speaker 8: I'm nervous about this.
Speaker 3: I'm nervous for Tom Brady, and I can't believe I'm
Speaker 3: nervous for Tom Brady. But it's just all that position
Speaker 3: is all about how comfortable you are and how confident
Speaker 3: you are. Of course he's confident, but I just don't
Speaker 3: know how comfortable he's going to be in that role.
Speaker 3: And I'm excited to listen, but I also just don't
Speaker 3: want to be cringing.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna be calling games, see, and there's a difference.
Speaker 5: He's not gonna be the studio analysts like his former
Speaker 5: head coach Bill Belichick will be right, So Belichick's gonna
Speaker 5: have some runway, he's gonna have some things to plan for,
Speaker 5: and he's going to be fantastic. Belichick is going to
Speaker 5: be gord. I agree, right, We're gonna held out to it.
Speaker 5: But you know, Tom's could be in games like we
Speaker 5: saw Tony Romo come in with a ton of rehearsals
Speaker 5: with Jim Nancey ultimate play by play guy. You know
Speaker 5: where they practiced, where you could see the feel and
Speaker 5: the energy that Romo brought. That's gonna be the comp
Speaker 5: for Tom Brady. Can you be the next Tony Romo?
Speaker 5: You're fresh out of the game. You know the opposing players,
Speaker 5: you know the opposing tendencies of the dcs. Are you
Speaker 5: going to give that to us? And if he doesn't,
Speaker 5: then it's gonna be on somebody at Fox to get
Speaker 5: him there. They are not going to allow him to fail.
Speaker 4: They are not. And plus, he's not gonna allow himself
Speaker 4: to feel.
Speaker 5: This is a dude who is drafted as late as
Speaker 5: he is, who's got that chip on his shoulder, no
Speaker 5: matter what it is.
Speaker 1: I know. But Joe Montana had a chip on his
Speaker 1: shoulder and he was one of the greatest ever and
Speaker 1: he was so bad in the booth. You know, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with Joe Namath. It's different, it's happening.
Speaker 4: They won't get ripped on.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a different skill set, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I hope I'm wrong. I hope he gets into
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty and isn't just vanilla. Maybe he'll be great,
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be better than Greg Olsen.
Speaker 2: Off the bat.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he could have been number two for
Speaker 1: a year and then let Greg Olsen go take Chris
Speaker 1: collins Worth's job or something. Wouldn't surprise me if that
Speaker 1: happens someday. I noticed that Madden is using Tarico and
Speaker 1: Olsen as a crew, and I was like, maybe that's like.
Speaker 4: A They recorded those. They started recording those about eighteen
Speaker 4: months ago.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm just saying, like, oh, that that could be
Speaker 1: a crew.
Speaker 2: I would see that.
Speaker 1: But it just respect the game, respect the announcing game,
Speaker 1: and kind of earn your spot.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. That's not on him, but bad idea,
Speaker 2: not on him.
Speaker 4: That's a bad idea. Okay, we'll see. Okay, here's my
Speaker 4: bad idea.
Speaker 5: Since we're entering training camp, one of the big rule
Speaker 5: changes is what the hip drop tackle. Don't over It's
Speaker 5: a bad idea to over penalize it in the preseason.
Speaker 5: We tend to see when there's rule changes in the preseason, Oh,
Speaker 5: offensive you can challenge offensive pass. And in finish, let's
Speaker 5: let's go crazy with that. We've got this change, let's
Speaker 5: go crazy with that. Don't go crazy with this one
Speaker 5: because this is such a subjective play. It does not
Speaker 5: happen every game. If all of a sudden, you start
Speaker 5: calling two or three is a game, defenders are gonna be.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, what are we gonna do.
Speaker 5: My solution is send a video to the team and
Speaker 5: the individual player saying this will be called right or
Speaker 5: else call a penalty in the game, but don't find
Speaker 5: them like they doing in regular season. Give them the
Speaker 5: solution before all of a sudden. We've got all the
Speaker 5: Tom Brady's of the world in the preseason trying to
Speaker 5: explain this to the public, like what the hell is
Speaker 5: this because so many players don't even know what a
Speaker 5: hip drop nuance tackle is? Right, this is this is
Speaker 5: a this is the finest of line.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I kind of know it,
Speaker 1: but could I really know the difference?
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: You have to swim, swing behind the guy, and turn
Speaker 5: him before you fall on him, which is and which
Speaker 5: is a kind of a spin off of the alligator
Speaker 5: tackle they told guys to start doing after they try
Speaker 5: to take the head out of the game with the
Speaker 5: head to head contact.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: It's a bad idea to go nuts in preseason like
Speaker 5: we've done with some of these other potential rule changes,
Speaker 5: to over penalize and over be overly punitive without giving
Speaker 5: more of a solution to the player and the team
Speaker 5: before we get.
Speaker 2: To the regular season.
Speaker 8: Whenever I hear a point of emphasis, I want to run.
Speaker 3: I just want to run and scream I can't, I
Speaker 3: can't do it.
Speaker 8: Don't do it, don't make it a point of emphasis.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and this is what just a flat new rule,
Speaker 1: And hopefully it's like that lowering the head rule which
Speaker 1: everyone was all worked up about for a month four
Speaker 1: or five years ago.
Speaker 2: How you know what it put the skirts on? We're like,
Speaker 2: let's not play football.
Speaker 1: It's like, how many times does that rule come up
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way? Since it gets called about twenty
Speaker 1: times a year, Hopefully it's what it's done. And I
Speaker 1: think this will happen more than anything with the hip
Speaker 1: drop tackle is it's just taught differently from now on,
Speaker 1: and so naturally it kind of leaves the game. But
Speaker 1: maybe it's something that you know, you you mentioned. Maybe
Speaker 1: they use fines versus right.
Speaker 5: I think I think once you get to the regular season,
Speaker 5: the guy they may not call it on the spot again.
Speaker 4: It's such a difficult play for the to officiate.
Speaker 5: But they may hit a guy with a fifteen thousand
Speaker 5: dollars clip you know, he gets that FedEx folder on
Speaker 5: Thursday because he did it. I mean, that's what they've
Speaker 5: done with a lot of these other penalties too, Like
Speaker 5: they'll find guys because guys don't like to lose that
Speaker 5: change say so, you have to change the behavior.
Speaker 4: But again, this is such a rare call.
Speaker 5: You don't see the hip drop call that often, but
Speaker 5: when you do, it's usually a smaller player taking down
Speaker 5: a bigger guy like Mark Andrews and him being out
Speaker 5: for the season. So again, I understand wanting to reduce
Speaker 5: the injuries, but let's not be overly punitive or ask
Speaker 5: the officials to do something so radically as you said
Speaker 5: a point of emphasis.
Speaker 3: Can I can't even even when you say it, I can't.
Speaker 5: It's to where we're like, again, you're trying to explain
Speaker 5: it and everything else, and it gets too muddled.
Speaker 1: I like that we all go in different directions of
Speaker 1: who can be making these bad ideas Teams players. It
Speaker 1: could be Fox in my case and in your case
Speaker 1: you're just you know, putting your sights on the NFL
Speaker 1: League office.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna be. Look, it's gonna be it's going
Speaker 4: to be a point of emphasis. Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 8: Be to get hand with that FedEx am.
Speaker 5: We're going to be talking about this we come to
Speaker 5: the regular season or to the preseason.
Speaker 4: That's going to be something that's going to be a point.
Speaker 1: There's what we don't need is that being like a
Speaker 1: major point. Yeah, it's on the coaches to coach it differently.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break, we're going to
Speaker 1: get one more from each of us, and we're going
Speaker 1: to wrap the show up. It's beautiful. It's Tuesday. Training
Speaker 1: camp has started. Bad ideas, Connie, You've had a few.
Speaker 1: I wish I had thought of some of the bad
Speaker 1: ideas in my own life.
Speaker 8: I mean that was a twenty second, so many I.
Speaker 3: Could we could fill multiple hours with bad ideas. But
Speaker 3: I have a couple for the Cowboys here, there's a
Speaker 3: few couple. There's a few bad ideas that are surrounding
Speaker 3: that team.
Speaker 8: They should have paid Dak.
Speaker 3: They obviously still need to pay Ceedee Lamb. I really
Speaker 3: don't know about the running back by committee. Micah, Remember Micah,
Speaker 3: Mike and Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 8: I'm excited to see those two together.
Speaker 3: But my bad idea is the fact that they really
Speaker 3: don't have a clearcut center on the offensive line, and
Speaker 3: that is a massive problem with Tyler Biattish now in Washington.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a true competition in training camp,
Speaker 3: and this is such a crucial position, especially for that offense.
Speaker 3: You think about late snaps, high snaps, anything like that,
Speaker 3: and they've had a lot of problems starting up front
Speaker 3: in recent years after it was just like exalted as
Speaker 3: this unbelievable offensive line for so many years, and then
Speaker 3: it just became such a lazy talking point for everyone,
Speaker 3: and then there was a time where it just ended
Speaker 3: up switching. So Mike Salari is a veteran assistant coach
Speaker 3: who's coming in. They're hoping that he can sort of
Speaker 3: galvanize this group. But the options right now. They signed
Speaker 3: brock Hoffman from San Francisco.
Speaker 8: They have a third.
Speaker 3: Round rookie in Cooper Bebe, and then Chuma Aduga is
Speaker 3: another all a good job, but I think I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just kind of like I'm still learning as training
Speaker 3: camp for me too, But this is this is an
Speaker 3: area that could really like torpedo the team at some
Speaker 3: point if they don't find a good option there and
Speaker 3: if these guys don't gell.
Speaker 1: Little known fact about Mike Solari. He's been in the
Speaker 1: NFL so long that he was on Tom Landry's staff
Speaker 1: in Dallas.
Speaker 4: Wow what Wow? On and Landry hasn't coached his nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Nine Yeah, he spent two years, the final two seasons
Speaker 1: of Tom Landry. He was on that staff, So a
Speaker 1: lot of fresh ideas. No, I'm just kidding because he's
Speaker 1: been around so long.
Speaker 5: Because I got to SCARNECKI is not the youngest, right,
Speaker 5: some of.
Speaker 2: These coaches, yeah, are around ageism.
Speaker 1: It is and I just love that. And I know
Speaker 1: Connie was doing some homework over the weekend. She put
Speaker 1: up on her stories, all the all the prep she's
Speaker 1: doing for itc that like you avoid, you avoid the
Speaker 1: the DAK or any situation like Zeke and you go
Speaker 1: straight to center.
Speaker 2: It's great show off.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's true though.
Speaker 1: It's of all the lists of issues that the Cowboys have,
Speaker 1: and there are many right now, maybe it almost feels
Speaker 1: like we're overdoing it. Uh, this this one could really
Speaker 1: hurt them ton and is not being talked about it at all.
Speaker 5: That's well done, real bad. Yeah, I hear what the
Speaker 5: well done? She got a couple well done.
Speaker 8: Deep in the weeds.
Speaker 1: Now, I had the CD DAK thing as my first
Speaker 1: bad idea, and then I just didn't go with it first.
Speaker 1: And now I'm regretting that because I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be ESPN and just start off the segment.
Speaker 4: You can't. That's not even a fair competent.
Speaker 2: The ESG drop that one, I'll drop another one.
Speaker 1: But I just think giving the contract to CD and
Speaker 1: not to DAK, which I think is how this thing
Speaker 1: is going to go. If I had to guess that
Speaker 1: they're going to go into I think Cee Lamb's gonna
Speaker 1: get paid. He's going to hold out or hold in,
Speaker 1: but they're going to make sure it happened, and Dak's
Speaker 1: going to go into this year without. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just bad. It's all bad. It's a bad idea, bad vibes,
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. It's a question that's going to
Speaker 1: be asked too much, and I think it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be given Dak ideas of where he wants to play next.
Speaker 1: It's bad. And with a coach that's very much on
Speaker 1: the hot seat, Like it's bad. Just pay them both,
Speaker 1: either pay them both or paying neither.
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking too, like who is under more pressure?
Speaker 3: And I hate that question, but it's an honest question here,
Speaker 3: Dak or Mike McCarthy, they're so tied together.
Speaker 4: Oh it's Dak just a salary alone. Yeah, the salary alone. Publicly,
Speaker 4: he can't.
Speaker 2: I hear you.
Speaker 1: But like Dak is gonna be a good quarterback. The
Speaker 1: situation around him will see how it is or not,
Speaker 1: but he has control of it. To me, pressure is
Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy only has so much control and he's
Speaker 1: having to deal with all this other stuff. At least
Speaker 1: Dak has the ball in his hands, so at least
Speaker 1: maybe he has more pressure, but he has more control
Speaker 1: over like what's gonna happen Mike McCarthy, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Mike McCarthy what he can do to fix this.
Speaker 4: Dak could have center issues, you could have running.
Speaker 2: Back a year. I got it.
Speaker 1: But they're like Dak's gonna be in the league next
Speaker 1: year making a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Where the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't say that, did I? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: All right, you go next, Steve.
Speaker 5: Okay, bad idea for the New England Patriots to start
Speaker 5: anyone at quarterback other than Drake May.
Speaker 4: Now hear me out.
Speaker 5: Their schedule is as ugly of a schedule is as
Speaker 5: I could imagine. I mean, look, they open at Sincy, Seattle,
Speaker 5: New York Jets, the Niners, Miami, Houston, Jacksonville, the Jets.
Speaker 5: Those are brutal defenses. So people can say, well, why
Speaker 5: would you want to expose him to that? If it's
Speaker 5: Jacobe Brissett, the one loss situation is probably going to
Speaker 5: be similar than it would be for Drake May. So
Speaker 5: let him go out there and face Louannarumo, Let him
Speaker 5: go out there and face Mike McDonald and some of
Speaker 5: those guys, so he can learn the Patriots are probably
Speaker 5: not going to win five games or more anyway, So
Speaker 5: do you want him to take those ls? Watching Jacobe
Speaker 5: presecut pummeled. And here's the other thing, I don't know
Speaker 5: if he's necessarly gonna get pumbled. Their defense, the Patriots
Speaker 5: defense is going to be really freaking good. Right, They've
Speaker 5: got players on that side of the ball. They're gonna
Speaker 5: hold some of these teams down. I would still get
Speaker 5: Drake May in there against this brutal schedule. I mean,
Speaker 5: you look at all seventeen. It is rough, but the
Speaker 5: one lost result is going to be the same. So
Speaker 5: you go out there and you coach him up, You
Speaker 5: let him take his lumps, you let him learn, because
Speaker 5: to me, experience is the best teacher.
Speaker 1: These guys aren't so fragile that if they're going to
Speaker 1: be good that they can't handle some struggles as a rookie,
Speaker 1: Like if that's gonna be the thing that stops him,
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be great anyways. And Drake May
Speaker 1: is just so talented you can't tell me he's not gonna.
Speaker 2: Make three to four just wow plays.
Speaker 1: He's used to having a team around him that isn't
Speaker 1: as good true as his opponent. It's like whenever Drake
Speaker 1: May played a Georgia Tech or even a Virginia where
Speaker 1: his teammates were about the same as the other team,
Speaker 1: he destroyed them because he's in because he's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best quarterback prospects I think in
Speaker 1: the last decade. I think it's a little crazy he
Speaker 1: went behind Jayden Daniels, but I get it. Jaden Daniels
Speaker 1: was coming off such a good year. The trick is
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette is the best of all these quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: so the temptation will be, like, man, maybe we'd have
Speaker 1: a better chance to win with Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3: I'm just worried about their skill position players around Drake
Speaker 3: may like who the pass catchers this is. I know
Speaker 3: that the pass catchers weren't great last year, but I mean,
Speaker 3: this feels like one of the most I don't. I
Speaker 3: want to say this nicely, and it's difficult to say nicely,
Speaker 3: but I just wish that there was more talent at
Speaker 3: the skill position player, yes than there is.
Speaker 5: Could running back garamondre Stevenson, but you know he could
Speaker 5: have him turned a hand on the ball off. But look,
Speaker 5: their defense is gonna be good enough for to play
Speaker 5: conservative football. This is what we always hear about all
Speaker 5: the time with rookie players. Now does he does not
Speaker 5: have Keenan Allen, He does not have dj More, You know,
Speaker 5: like Caleb, he does not have the eye.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he has it in him
Speaker 2: to play conservatively.
Speaker 4: It's just well, then let him rip.
Speaker 2: He's very very Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Like, let it rip, let him, let him go.
Speaker 1: He might have some of the lumps that Josh Allen hadn't. Look,
Speaker 1: it didn't slow Josh Allen down. He got better.
Speaker 4: Look, look you look at that schedule.
Speaker 5: That is a brutal run against some teams of good
Speaker 5: defenses and teams that can put points on the board.
Speaker 4: Let him go out there and experience it, let him
Speaker 4: feel it, let him learn.
Speaker 1: Okay, bad more bad ideas kicking, like giving up completely
Speaker 1: on the new kickoff rule and just kicking it to
Speaker 1: the thirty. I mean kicking it out of the end
Speaker 1: zone every time and letting the other team take the
Speaker 1: ball out the thirty. It's like that's a whack move.
Speaker 1: That's just like hey, like I'm gonna take the ball
Speaker 1: and go home. We're not even gonna try, Like we're
Speaker 1: playing a sport and we're just gonna say we're not
Speaker 1: good enough to figure this out. Like, that's not who
Speaker 1: you want running your team. Here's your white that's a
Speaker 1: bad idea. I'm just gonna roll through a couple of
Speaker 1: rapid fire sticking with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: No matter what happens this year.
Speaker 1: If it goes.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Well, because I was a little negative on the Browns defense,
Speaker 1: just like can they repeat it? I just mean, I
Speaker 1: think they're at the year of the contract that if
Speaker 1: it's really going poorly, I think this is the year
Speaker 1: that you pull the ripcord and I don't know, you
Speaker 1: look at their roster and it's loaded. They brought in Jamis,
Speaker 1: they brought it, Like, why do they have so many quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Dt are?
Speaker 1: They brought in Tyler Hunt and now they're going to
Speaker 1: play them all. I'm just saying they have options. If
Speaker 1: it was going real poor, Kevin Stefanski has some long
Speaker 1: term security now with that new contract that take a
Speaker 1: look at Jamis if it goes.
Speaker 4: They should have assigned Joe Flatto. That's what you wanted
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 8: I know, I think he wanted to go back there.
Speaker 3: We're talking to him at Honors NFL Honors Super Bowl
Speaker 3: week and he seemed like he really wanted to go back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't draft Presol number two overall.
Speaker 2: And fantas fantasy there you go not trust that.
Speaker 1: And don't listen to Mike Florio about like hard knocks teams, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're showing too much information. And and it's getting out
Speaker 1: there and it's bad for it. It's like, relax, it's
Speaker 1: football teams not that big a deal. Teams have editorial
Speaker 1: controllers who are showing and what's not fine.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they have the final set, like give us some
Speaker 11: good shows, like knowing like if some information gets out
Speaker 11: that hurts some people's feelings or you learn like ooh,
Speaker 11: someone did a good job or a bad up, that's fine,
Speaker 11: let them deal with.
Speaker 8: That is the very point of the show exactly.
Speaker 2: And it's already happened. Yes, you know, it's in the past.
Speaker 2: I think this was a good idea, this segment. It was.
Speaker 8: It was not a bad idea.
Speaker 2: Good job, thank you, but you got but you just
Speaker 2: you just emptied the clip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just decided I had a bunch. Let's get
Speaker 1: him out there for the people. Uh, let's wrap up
Speaker 1: with just a little after dinner man, like, you know,
Speaker 1: just something nice to leave the show with. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys have seen this clip yet of
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes throwing one of the best passes I've ever
Speaker 1: seen throw. Just happened to come in training camp practice.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: You can see this on her YouTube. Sprinting right not
Speaker 1: even stopping his feet. Xavi A Worthy separating fifty five
Speaker 1: sixty yards down the field at the end. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is preposterous.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: That's just like when DJ with nuts, when Zach Wilson
Speaker 5: threw that at his pro day.
Speaker 4: That's the.
Speaker 5: That's the throw. I mean, that's a million Daniels Jeremias.
Speaker 5: You're going nuts that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The difference is there's a little bit of defense here
Speaker 1: I guess not really no, and there's Xavier Worthy separating
Speaker 1: and tracking that ball at the end. That's that's different
Speaker 1: because they did not have a guy like that last
Speaker 1: year on the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: It is so much fun to watch those types of
Speaker 3: plays at training camp because training camp is just so
Speaker 3: much like oh, they're stretching again, like, or that guy's
Speaker 3: on a bike now, like, But when that happens, it's
Speaker 3: actually fun and it pops and it's like, okay, this
Speaker 3: is why we're here.
Speaker 5: And the best part about is Mahomes just said, if
Speaker 5: I throw an interception, so what it's training camp. I
Speaker 5: have been in too many practices where I've almost say quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: get there, you know what's kicked because in a play
Speaker 5: like that, they'll just like, check it down and the
Speaker 5: receivers run his tail off. It's the end of practice.
Speaker 5: He's already run like seven forty five yard routes. He's done,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you check it down. Underneath
Speaker 5: that says Patrick taking care right.
Speaker 1: I just think I'm excited that these plays are back.
Speaker 1: It's all happening once again. We're practicing football. And that
Speaker 1: play is a good example of what I say is
Speaker 1: like every week in the NFL there's a play that
Speaker 1: was better than any play in like the entire decade
Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies or eighties. Like that throw, if
Speaker 1: that throw happened in the game like fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: can you imagine seeing that that is a preposterous throw.
Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know, this happens in every sport, Steve, I'm not,
Speaker 1: and not no disrespect to the old football players.
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing.
Speaker 1: And in the NBA or tennis or whatever you want,
Speaker 1: they're just there these days.
Speaker 5: Ye saw Roger saw Back do that to Drew Peaks
Speaker 5: And I'm a Vikage fan.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm still crushed.
Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you talk about big play, the original
Speaker 5: Hill Mary still like digs at me.
Speaker 1: Well, I was very excited to get you guys before
Speaker 1: you head out on the roads. But yeah, check check
Speaker 1: out Stephen Colleen on NFL Network. ITC will try to
Speaker 1: get you on the podcast from the road or bringing
Speaker 1: my mic when you're back Colleen our next show. Very
Speaker 1: excited about this. We got Stacey Dale. She's already that's
Speaker 1: a good idea. She's talking bears. Nick Chukill also help
Speaker 1: me cover the news on that show. But I'm excited
Speaker 1: to talk about Stacy the most athletic NFL Network.
Speaker 2: Till then, see you next time.