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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're fully cleared for training camp.

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Speaker 2: We're off and running.

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Speaker 1: I'm beyond lucky today to be joined by Steve Weisch

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Speaker 1: and Colleen Wolf before they venture around the country for

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Speaker 1: inside training camp.

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Speaker 2: They're in the Chris Westley podcast. That's right.

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Speaker 3: We were just comparing schedules. We're getting ready. Are you

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Speaker 3: do you have your polos set?

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Speaker 4: I've got my polosh huh.

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Speaker 5: I'm very glad we got We also found out that

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Speaker 5: I'm actually gonna be like filling in for Got.

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Speaker 4: She's got other stuff to do.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't physically get to Detroit without a private jet.

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Speaker 3: There were no flights that could get me there from

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Speaker 3: where I was coming from.

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Speaker 2: My wife is in six cities in six days.

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Speaker 4: I'm down, though.

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Speaker 5: I like, I love I love I love that Detroit,

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Speaker 5: like I loved the Shy and I like going to

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Speaker 5: the facility. So it's gonna be my first time there

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Speaker 5: in a couple of years. I'm looking forward to you know,

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell and the whole gang, Aaron Glen in the group.

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Speaker 1: Well, we might try to get you from the road

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Speaker 1: as as if you're not busy enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: Actually told to bring my special podcast, Mike just in case.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first time Steve Wye has

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Speaker 1: joined NFL Daily, and we'll make it to the end

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 2: We hope he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Another show later, but there's a few hours in between,

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Speaker 1: so we'll we'll see. If it's a wolf Blitzer situation

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Speaker 1: where you're on social having a wolf Splitzer and then

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Speaker 1: an hour later, like announcing.

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Speaker 4: Would not be the first time, would not be the

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Speaker 4: first time.

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Speaker 6: But before we do that, let's do some news. Yes

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Speaker 6: for light people, I like it cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Green Packers, which gave us a

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Speaker 1: little something to talk about. On Monday morning, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: who's in the building, was revealed that he will not

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Speaker 1: seem pretty cool with it. And this is him talking

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Speaker 7: So yeah, so I think it was Saturday night. You know,

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Speaker 7: they kind of informed us and until we get something

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Speaker 7: he will not be practicing. Yeah, I think so, but again,

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Speaker 7: you never know. I mean, we're working really hard to

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Speaker 7: get that done. I think it's really important for us.

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Speaker 7: I'm optimistic. These are big deals. It takes time. They're

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Speaker 7: not as you know, easy, as as some people may think.

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Speaker 1: M I I take optimism from this. It is not

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Speaker 1: much of a story. I don't think if Jordan Love

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Speaker 5: You don't hear team exectly as their coaches talk about, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's not going to practice until we get the deal done.

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Speaker 5: You typically hear that from the player or the player's

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Speaker 5: agent saying, hey, you know, we're just going to sit

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Speaker 5: this basically sit this one out until we get it completed.

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Speaker 5: So it's clear their open lines of communication that they've

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Speaker 5: got a good relationship right there. And you know, look,

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Speaker 5: they just got Kenny Clark. Yeah right, They're not going

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Speaker 5: place for the quarterback contract. So this isn't going to

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Speaker 3: I guess the hope would be that they get it

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Speaker 3: that would happen. But Gudacun sort of threw volunteered that

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Speaker 3: training camp. He just threw that out there, so he

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Speaker 3: once the Kenny Clark deal got done, it's like, this

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Speaker 3: is the next step in the deals. And of course,

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Speaker 3: like Jordan Love, he was at practice. No one expected

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Speaker 8: He was smiling. He walked out with Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 3: And the real concern for me is that he was

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Speaker 2: But that's the Mike McDaniel thing.

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Speaker 1: Though he wears the hoodie in Miami at like ninety

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Speaker 3: I know, you want to sweat, you want to get

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Speaker 5: get scorched, right. But I've seen some people like with

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Speaker 1: So I look at this situation with him showing up

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Speaker 1: and think he must know. I wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: he gets as much money as like any quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL. We've talked about how the contracts are

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Speaker 1: unless he knows that's coming. And to be clear, real

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Speaker 1: trading camp hasn't even started for them. It's like rookies

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Speaker 3: And he's expected to participate in the meetings too, so

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Speaker 1: With all timing guarantees, it's a holden. You mentioned Kenny

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Speaker 1: like twenty nine million dollars in twenty twenty four pay.

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Speaker 1: And the most interesting thing about what's happening with Love

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Speaker 1: is what good organizations do when they have cap space.

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Speaker 1: Is great, we built up all this. There's too much

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Speaker 1: put all that cash as much as possible into twenty

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Speaker 1: the same situation. The Packers are kind of the ultimate

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Speaker 5: I think Devanta Adams, who have an argument with your

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Speaker 4: However, we're talking about your Love and Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 5: Look, Kenny Clark I mean, this guy's one of the

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Speaker 5: massaging of the cap. If you've got the cash, and

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Speaker 5: we just saw about from the Packers public disclosures.

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Speaker 4: They've got the cash, Yeah, you go ahead and spend it.

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Speaker 5: But they've got the cash to spend, go ahead and

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Speaker 5: this is why the Packers continue to keep themselves competitive

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Speaker 5: because they know exactly what they're doing and how to

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Speaker 3: And Kenny Clark is managing the Packers well because the

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Speaker 3: fact that he's at this point now signed multiple big

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Speaker 8: You don't see that so often.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's signed three total contracts with them, two

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Speaker 3: He's so reliable, he's always available, He key's the defense.

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Speaker 3: He's only twenty eight years old. Like, I just think

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Speaker 3: now he has his second huge deal. It's great for him.

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Speaker 1: They have an interesting defense to watch because I feel

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Speaker 1: like they've underachieved for years compared to the talent that

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Speaker 8: A Kyle Shanahan guy too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and they're also saving money because their receivers

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Speaker 1: Four guys like team like wide receivers such a premium position.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like having a rookie quarterback contract, having a

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Speaker 5: Well said, you know, Plus they're running backs basically on

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Speaker 1: He said, well said, I'm just well said, well done,

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 8: That's great, Good job, Greg, that's important.

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Speaker 1: I really need the positive affirmation right now. All right,

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Speaker 1: Moving on to our next story talking quarterbacks. John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: really caught my attention on Sunday at Ravens training camp,

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Speaker 1: and I want to dive into it more with you

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Speaker 1: guys here. This was the first full team session that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens had. They're actually practicing. Their veterans are out there,

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Speaker 1: Fame game teams. I know you'll be there. You guys

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Speaker 1: will both be there. Okay, So Chicago, Wolf, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Wolf, Lucia's baby. One of the best day house today

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Speaker 1: We've got four teams fully practicing as we record. Every

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Speaker 1: But it was almost like John Harbaugh had an answer,

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Speaker 1: a speech ready for the first time someone brought up

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Speaker 1: Lamar this year. It was like a stump speech. It

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Speaker 1: play the whole thing. But let's listen to my favorite

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds of John Harbaugh's vision for Lamar.

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Speaker 9: We're building another offense for it in twenty three and

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Speaker 9: twenty four going forward right, the next iteration of our

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Speaker 9: offense around Lamar Jackson. Because, in my opinion, the vision

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Speaker 9: the vision for Lamar Jackson, and it's a vision. It's

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Speaker 9: see it like it's already been done. The victory has

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Speaker 9: already been won when you pour into a vision. And

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Speaker 9: the vision that we have together is a Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 9: as the greatest quarterback ever to play in the history

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and not take anything away from what Lamar has done.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that really struck me is this is

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Speaker 4: This is nothing new.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's the former quarterback in me,

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Speaker 10: Break, Johncey, it's very Indiana Jones like, that's what it's giving.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some bad ideas, folks. A lot

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Speaker 3: Listen, of course I did. Glass half empty is like

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Speaker 1: one way.

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Speaker 3: And I basically picked both and then was like, no,

442
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Speaker 3: let's do this one A torpedo in one of them. Yes, okay,

443
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Speaker 3: So I do have some other bad ideas real quick

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Speaker 3: before I get into my two NFL ones, just like

445
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Speaker 3: more of a PSA good Don't go to the beach

446
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Speaker 3: without sunscreen. I have been using so much allo I

447
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Speaker 3: and taking anti inflammatories. My back is so burnt right

448
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Speaker 3: now that we'll see problem.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Don't file for a tax extension. It's gonna haunt you

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Speaker 3: the whole summer. Don't let your college roommate come to

452
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Speaker 3: town full stop, but definitely don't let them order pizza

453
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Speaker 3: or drinks. Don't buy anything on the internet after midnight.

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Speaker 3: Don't order one or every dessert on the menu. Don't

455
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Speaker 3: go to a plant nursery without a plan, don't get

456
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Speaker 3: the hollandaise sauce ever, and above all else, just don't

457
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Speaker 3: forget the sunscreen.

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Speaker 8: Please.

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Speaker 4: That's strong.

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Speaker 5: I thought you're gonna don't forget to do your ninjao

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Speaker 5: your computer updates.

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Speaker 3: Finally up to date with my ninja O compliance training. Y.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is our in house work program where we

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Speaker 1: learn not to uh open security and yes.

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Speaker 3: About fishing an identity theft, all of it.

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 1: I got the email that said they were they were

468
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Speaker 1: shutting me off. They're shutting my computer off unless I

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Speaker 1: do it. I got it done. Those are great, except

470
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Speaker 1: for the plant nursery plant like who you can't have

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Speaker 1: a plan. You got to go and just see what's there.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you're.

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Speaker 3: I can't a plant lady, and I at least, but

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Speaker 3: way too many and nowhere to put them.

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Speaker 2: It's like going to the farmers market. You gotta see

476
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Speaker 2: what's fresh.

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Speaker 8: That's fair, okay.

478
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Speaker 3: So I as far as actual bad ideas for the

479
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Speaker 3: NFL season, I really don't love the fact that Chicago

480
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Speaker 3: doesn't have a veteran quarterback on the roster at all.

481
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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying to win a competition or anything

482
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Speaker 3: like that talent wise, but just someone in house with

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Speaker 3: the experience to be in that room. I mean a

484
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Speaker 3: lah Josh McCown, except he's an assistant with the Viking Division.

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Speaker 4: But someone and.

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Speaker 3: Exactly And when he was there with Nick Foles and

487
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Speaker 3: Justin Fields, it sounded like there were some there was

488
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Speaker 3: some friction a little bit, so a different regime in

489
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Speaker 3: the front office. But I don't know if maybe past

490
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Speaker 3: history with a rookie quarterback and veterans in there was

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Speaker 3: something that the Bears thought about going into this. But

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Speaker 3: it just feels so curious because you have Baigent as

493
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Speaker 3: the backup, who was the undrafted free agent last year,

494
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Speaker 3: he performed well enough to be a backup, and then

495
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Speaker 3: Brett Rippian is the only true veteran quarterback there. His

496
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Speaker 3: only start with the Rams last year was so disastrous

497
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Speaker 3: that he was cut two days later. And then you

498
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Speaker 3: have an undrafted rookie Austin Reid in there. So like

499
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Speaker 3: entering the season the most seasoned quarterback on the roster

500
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Speaker 3: has started four NFL games, and you have Caleb Williams,

501
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Speaker 3: who will be under so much pressure both physically and

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Speaker 3: figuratively because the offensive line has a lot of unknowns,

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Speaker 3: and the pass catchers are all new aside from Dj Moore,

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Speaker 3: So there's just a lot in flux for a rookie

505
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Speaker 3: to have to figure out and just be thrown into

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Speaker 3: the fire with no seasoned person in that room. To

507
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Speaker 3: I kind of roll my eyes when we talk about

508
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Speaker 3: mentors in the quarterback rooms, but in this situation, it

509
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Speaker 3: would be nice if someone was in there that wasn't

510
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Speaker 3: an actual threat, but that was there almost as like

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Speaker 3: an assistant assistant there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, it's the Chase Daniel, it's Jacoby Brissette,

513
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Speaker 5: it's guys like that. It helps because there will be

514
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Speaker 5: situations that these guys will experience on and off the

515
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Speaker 5: field where a veteran voice can get them.

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Speaker 1: In work habits and just knowing what it's like to

517
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Speaker 1: go through an NFL season. I think that's a great one.

518
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Speaker 1: That that was a bad idea by them. I mean,

519
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Speaker 1: like a guy like Tyler Huntley, he was out there.

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Speaker 1: He's the fourth quarterback with the brown that Browns that

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Speaker 1: would have been, which is interesting by the way that

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Speaker 1: they have so many quarterbacks, just just saying.

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Speaker 8: Where's Ryancehill right now?

524
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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannell is unsigned, which which is interesting right now,

525
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Speaker 1: he might be the type of guy I don't know

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Speaker 1: that maybe he wouldn't be as willing right now, like

527
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Speaker 1: he wanted to play. Maybe he told teams that and

528
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Speaker 1: then I would understand in that case why they wouldn't

529
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Speaker 1: sign him specifically, But case Keenum was out there, he

530
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Speaker 1: would have been a nice one done in most of

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Speaker 1: his career. He's got to be in Houston, and you

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Speaker 1: never know, someone could get cut loose in camp, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know who would be like a Nick Mullins type,

534
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Speaker 1: But yeah, that is a that is a missing piece.

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Speaker 1: And as much as I like the Bears and the

536
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Speaker 1: things they have around him, like if there's no offensive

537
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Speaker 1: line or at least there's a Q question on the

538
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Speaker 1: offensive line, I don't know if the defense is going

539
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Speaker 1: to be as good as people think. It's a great

540
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Speaker 1: situation around Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: But that is one bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out a bad idea, and

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Speaker 1: that's making Tom Brady the number one Fox broadcaster, putting

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Speaker 1: him on the number one team right away, and the

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Speaker 1: response will be like, well, you can't pay him all

546
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Speaker 1: that money? Well, like, why not? You can do whatever

547
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Speaker 1: you want with you. You can't pay him all that

548
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Speaker 1: money and make them number two. The number two games

549
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: are great, maybe more people will watch the number two

550
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Speaker 1: games and there won't be as much pressure. I just

551
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Speaker 1: think it's so ironic and it seems so just like

552
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Speaker 1: a flip of where Tom Brady is in terms of

553
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Speaker 1: his life that he hasn't considered how similar this is

554
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Speaker 1: to his situation with Drew Bledsoe coming into the NFL.

555
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Speaker 1: Because back then, I remember Tom Curran was first. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he almost made his career off this first on the

557
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Speaker 1: whole idea of like this, Brady kids better than Bledsoe,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, they shouldn't give the job. And he would

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Speaker 1: call Drew Bledsoe the hood orm because they would just

560
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: put Drew Bledsoe's contract that they gave him kind of

561
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Speaker 1: under weird, just like trying to make the franchise look

562
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Speaker 1: better at a time when it wasn't. It was one

563
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract and put that to distract everyone

564
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Speaker 1: from the bad card that was behind it. And that

565
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Speaker 1: was his one hundred million dollar contract, and Drew bleds

566
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Speaker 1: at that point wasn't really earning his spot in the

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Speaker 1: way that you would think. And here's Tom Brady as

568
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Speaker 1: a player who comes up and earns it. That was

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Speaker 1: greg Olsen, Like greg Olsen earned that spot. And everyone's

570
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Speaker 1: going to be listening to the Number two games and

571
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Speaker 1: they're gonna realize greg Olsen's better than Tom Brady. And

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong in tom Brady's star power and

573
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Speaker 1: he'll be great and he won't be bad at anything,

574
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Speaker 1: and it'll quiet it down. And that's fine if I'm

575
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Speaker 1: proven wrong. But I really doubt day one he's going

576
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Speaker 1: to be better. And he could have still been on

577
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Speaker 1: big time games, the Number two games. Everyone watches the

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Speaker 1: Number two crew too. It's just at like one pm

579
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: instead of four pm. It would have been fine. But

580
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Speaker 1: if he's bad, or if he's just average, it puts

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Speaker 1: him in a spot where it's like you didn't you

582
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Speaker 1: didn't really earn this, and as you get better, people

583
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: aren't going.

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Speaker 2: To have as much pain.

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Speaker 4: So you're you're calling him Drew Brees.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad idea.

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Speaker 4: You put him in the Drew Brees category potentially.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Drew Brees was Drew Brees set up

589
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: to succeed there too, Like he was in a tough

590
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: spot maybe if he had just been like the number

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Speaker 1: four or five Fox crew, he could have worked his

592
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: way into he's trying to get back into him.

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Speaker 8: I'm nervous about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous for Tom Brady, and I can't believe I'm

595
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: nervous for Tom Brady. But it's just all that position

596
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: is all about how comfortable you are and how confident

597
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: you are. Of course he's confident, but I just don't

598
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: know how comfortable he's going to be in that role.

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Speaker 3: And I'm excited to listen, but I also just don't

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Speaker 3: want to be cringing.

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Speaker 5: But he's gonna be calling games, see, and there's a difference.

602
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Speaker 5: He's not gonna be the studio analysts like his former

603
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 5: head coach Bill Belichick will be right, So Belichick's gonna

604
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: have some runway, he's gonna have some things to plan for,

605
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Speaker 5: and he's going to be fantastic. Belichick is going to

606
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Speaker 5: be gord. I agree, right, We're gonna held out to it.

607
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Speaker 5: But you know, Tom's could be in games like we

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Speaker 5: saw Tony Romo come in with a ton of rehearsals

609
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: with Jim Nancey ultimate play by play guy. You know

610
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Speaker 5: where they practiced, where you could see the feel and

611
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Speaker 5: the energy that Romo brought. That's gonna be the comp

612
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 5: for Tom Brady. Can you be the next Tony Romo?

613
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 5: You're fresh out of the game. You know the opposing players,

614
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Speaker 5: you know the opposing tendencies of the dcs. Are you

615
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 5: going to give that to us? And if he doesn't,

616
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Speaker 5: then it's gonna be on somebody at Fox to get

617
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: him there. They are not going to allow him to fail.

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Speaker 4: They are not. And plus, he's not gonna allow himself

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Speaker 4: to feel.

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Speaker 5: This is a dude who is drafted as late as

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Speaker 5: he is, who's got that chip on his shoulder, no

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Speaker 5: matter what it is.

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Speaker 1: I know. But Joe Montana had a chip on his

624
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Speaker 1: shoulder and he was one of the greatest ever and

625
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: he was so bad in the booth. You know, it's

626
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: the same thing with Joe Namath. It's different, it's happening.

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Speaker 4: They won't get ripped on.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a different skill set, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I hope I'm wrong. I hope he gets into

630
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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty and isn't just vanilla. Maybe he'll be great,

631
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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be better than Greg Olsen.

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Speaker 2: Off the bat.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying he could have been number two for

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Speaker 1: a year and then let Greg Olsen go take Chris

635
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: collins Worth's job or something. Wouldn't surprise me if that

636
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: happens someday. I noticed that Madden is using Tarico and

637
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Olsen as a crew, and I was like, maybe that's like.

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: A They recorded those. They started recording those about eighteen

639
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: months ago.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm just saying, like, oh, that that could be

641
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Speaker 1: a crew.

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: I would see that.

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00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: But it just respect the game, respect the announcing game,

644
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: and kind of earn your spot.

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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. That's not on him, but bad idea,

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Speaker 2: not on him.

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00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: That's a bad idea. Okay, we'll see. Okay, here's my

648
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: bad idea.

649
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: Since we're entering training camp, one of the big rule

650
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: changes is what the hip drop tackle. Don't over It's

651
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: a bad idea to over penalize it in the preseason.

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00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: We tend to see when there's rule changes in the preseason, Oh,

653
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: offensive you can challenge offensive pass. And in finish, let's

654
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Speaker 5: let's go crazy with that. We've got this change, let's

655
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Speaker 5: go crazy with that. Don't go crazy with this one

656
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Speaker 5: because this is such a subjective play. It does not

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Speaker 5: happen every game. If all of a sudden, you start

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Speaker 5: calling two or three is a game, defenders are gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Like, Okay, what are we gonna do.

660
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Speaker 5: My solution is send a video to the team and

661
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: the individual player saying this will be called right or

662
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 5: else call a penalty in the game, but don't find

663
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: them like they doing in regular season. Give them the

664
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Speaker 5: solution before all of a sudden. We've got all the

665
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 5: Tom Brady's of the world in the preseason trying to

666
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: explain this to the public, like what the hell is

667
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 5: this because so many players don't even know what a

668
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: hip drop nuance tackle is? Right, this is this is

669
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: a this is the finest of line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I kind of know it,

671
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: but could I really know the difference?

672
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

673
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: You have to swim, swing behind the guy, and turn

674
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: him before you fall on him, which is and which

675
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: is a kind of a spin off of the alligator

676
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: tackle they told guys to start doing after they try

677
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: to take the head out of the game with the

678
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: head to head contact.

679
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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm just saying.

680
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: It's a bad idea to go nuts in preseason like

681
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: we've done with some of these other potential rule changes,

682
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: to over penalize and over be overly punitive without giving

683
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: more of a solution to the player and the team

684
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: before we get.

685
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Speaker 2: To the regular season.

686
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 8: Whenever I hear a point of emphasis, I want to run.

687
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: I just want to run and scream I can't, I

688
00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: can't do it.

689
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 8: Don't do it, don't make it a point of emphasis.

690
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, and this is what just a flat new rule,

691
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: And hopefully it's like that lowering the head rule which

692
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: everyone was all worked up about for a month four

693
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: or five years ago.

694
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: How you know what it put the skirts on? We're like,

695
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: let's not play football.

696
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: It's like, how many times does that rule come up

697
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way? Since it gets called about twenty

698
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: times a year, Hopefully it's what it's done. And I

699
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: think this will happen more than anything with the hip

700
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: drop tackle is it's just taught differently from now on,

701
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: and so naturally it kind of leaves the game. But

702
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's something that you know, you you mentioned. Maybe

703
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: they use fines versus right.

704
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: I think I think once you get to the regular season,

705
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 5: the guy they may not call it on the spot again.

706
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: It's such a difficult play for the to officiate.

707
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: But they may hit a guy with a fifteen thousand

708
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: dollars clip you know, he gets that FedEx folder on

709
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: Thursday because he did it. I mean, that's what they've

710
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: done with a lot of these other penalties too, Like

711
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: they'll find guys because guys don't like to lose that

712
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 5: change say so, you have to change the behavior.

713
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: But again, this is such a rare call.

714
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: You don't see the hip drop call that often, but

715
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 5: when you do, it's usually a smaller player taking down

716
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: a bigger guy like Mark Andrews and him being out

717
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: for the season. So again, I understand wanting to reduce

718
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: the injuries, but let's not be overly punitive or ask

719
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: the officials to do something so radically as you said

720
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: a point of emphasis.

721
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Speaker 3: Can I can't even even when you say it, I can't.

722
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: It's to where we're like, again, you're trying to explain

723
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: it and everything else, and it gets too muddled.

724
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: I like that we all go in different directions of

725
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: who can be making these bad ideas Teams players. It

726
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: could be Fox in my case and in your case

727
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: you're just you know, putting your sights on the NFL

728
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: League office.

729
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: It's just gonna be. Look, it's gonna be it's going

730
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: to be a point of emphasis. Yeah, we're going to.

731
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Speaker 8: Be to get hand with that FedEx am.

732
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 5: We're going to be talking about this we come to

733
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: the regular season or to the preseason.

734
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: That's going to be something that's going to be a point.

735
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: There's what we don't need is that being like a

736
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: major point. Yeah, it's on the coaches to coach it differently.

737
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break, we're going to

738
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: get one more from each of us, and we're going

739
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: to wrap the show up. It's beautiful. It's Tuesday. Training

740
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: camp has started. Bad ideas, Connie, You've had a few.

741
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: I wish I had thought of some of the bad

742
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: ideas in my own life.

743
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Speaker 8: I mean that was a twenty second, so many I.

744
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: Could we could fill multiple hours with bad ideas. But

745
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: I have a couple for the Cowboys here, there's a

746
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: few couple. There's a few bad ideas that are surrounding

747
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: that team.

748
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 8: They should have paid Dak.

749
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: They obviously still need to pay Ceedee Lamb. I really

750
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: don't know about the running back by committee. Micah, Remember Micah,

751
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: Mike and Mike Zimmer.

752
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 8: I'm excited to see those two together.

753
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: But my bad idea is the fact that they really

754
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: don't have a clearcut center on the offensive line, and

755
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: that is a massive problem with Tyler Biattish now in Washington.

756
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a true competition in training camp,

757
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: and this is such a crucial position, especially for that offense.

758
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: You think about late snaps, high snaps, anything like that,

759
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: and they've had a lot of problems starting up front

760
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: in recent years after it was just like exalted as

761
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: this unbelievable offensive line for so many years, and then

762
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: it just became such a lazy talking point for everyone,

763
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: and then there was a time where it just ended

764
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: up switching. So Mike Salari is a veteran assistant coach

765
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: who's coming in. They're hoping that he can sort of

766
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: galvanize this group. But the options right now. They signed

767
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: brock Hoffman from San Francisco.

768
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 8: They have a third.

769
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: Round rookie in Cooper Bebe, and then Chuma Aduga is

770
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: another all a good job, but I think I don't know,

771
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: I just kind of like I'm still learning as training

772
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: camp for me too, But this is this is an

773
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: area that could really like torpedo the team at some

774
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: point if they don't find a good option there and

775
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: if these guys don't gell.

776
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Little known fact about Mike Solari. He's been in the

777
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: NFL so long that he was on Tom Landry's staff

778
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: in Dallas.

779
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 4: Wow what Wow? On and Landry hasn't coached his nineteen eighty.

780
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Nine Yeah, he spent two years, the final two seasons

781
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: of Tom Landry. He was on that staff, So a

782
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: lot of fresh ideas. No, I'm just kidding because he's

783
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: been around so long.

784
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: Because I got to SCARNECKI is not the youngest, right,

785
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 5: some of.

786
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: These coaches, yeah, are around ageism.

787
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: It is and I just love that. And I know

788
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: Connie was doing some homework over the weekend. She put

789
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: up on her stories, all the all the prep she's

790
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: doing for itc that like you avoid, you avoid the

791
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: the DAK or any situation like Zeke and you go

792
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: straight to center.

793
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: It's great show off.

794
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: I love it.

795
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: It's true though.

796
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: It's of all the lists of issues that the Cowboys have,

797
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: and there are many right now, maybe it almost feels

798
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: like we're overdoing it. Uh, this this one could really

799
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: hurt them ton and is not being talked about it at all.

800
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: That's well done, real bad. Yeah, I hear what the

801
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: well done? She got a couple well done.

802
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 8: Deep in the weeds.

803
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Now, I had the CD DAK thing as my first

804
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: bad idea, and then I just didn't go with it first.

805
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: And now I'm regretting that because I was like, I

806
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: don't want to be ESPN and just start off the segment.

807
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: You can't. That's not even a fair competent.

808
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: The ESG drop that one, I'll drop another one.

809
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: But I just think giving the contract to CD and

810
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: not to DAK, which I think is how this thing

811
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: is going to go. If I had to guess that

812
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: they're going to go into I think Cee Lamb's gonna

813
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: get paid. He's going to hold out or hold in,

814
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: but they're going to make sure it happened, and Dak's

815
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: going to go into this year without. It's just it's

816
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: just bad. It's all bad. It's a bad idea, bad vibes,

817
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. It's a question that's going to

818
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: be asked too much, and I think it's just gonna

819
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: be given Dak ideas of where he wants to play next.

820
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: It's bad. And with a coach that's very much on

821
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: the hot seat, Like it's bad. Just pay them both,

822
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: either pay them both or paying neither.

823
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking too, like who is under more pressure?

824
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: And I hate that question, but it's an honest question here,

825
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: Dak or Mike McCarthy, they're so tied together.

826
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: Oh it's Dak just a salary alone. Yeah, the salary alone. Publicly,

827
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: he can't.

828
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: I hear you.

829
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: But like Dak is gonna be a good quarterback. The

830
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: situation around him will see how it is or not,

831
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: but he has control of it. To me, pressure is

832
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy only has so much control and he's

833
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: having to deal with all this other stuff. At least

834
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Dak has the ball in his hands, so at least

835
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: maybe he has more pressure, but he has more control

836
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: over like what's gonna happen Mike McCarthy, Like, I don't

837
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: know if Mike McCarthy what he can do to fix this.

838
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: Dak could have center issues, you could have running.

839
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: Back a year. I got it.

840
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: But they're like Dak's gonna be in the league next

841
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: year making a lot of money.

842
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: Where the Raiders.

843
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't say that, did I? Oh my god?

844
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: All right, you go next, Steve.

845
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: Okay, bad idea for the New England Patriots to start

846
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: anyone at quarterback other than Drake May.

847
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: Now hear me out.

848
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 5: Their schedule is as ugly of a schedule is as

849
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: I could imagine. I mean, look, they open at Sincy, Seattle,

850
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 5: New York Jets, the Niners, Miami, Houston, Jacksonville, the Jets.

851
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 5: Those are brutal defenses. So people can say, well, why

852
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 5: would you want to expose him to that? If it's

853
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: Jacobe Brissett, the one loss situation is probably going to

854
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: be similar than it would be for Drake May. So

855
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 5: let him go out there and face Louannarumo, Let him

856
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 5: go out there and face Mike McDonald and some of

857
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 5: those guys, so he can learn the Patriots are probably

858
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: not going to win five games or more anyway, So

859
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 5: do you want him to take those ls? Watching Jacobe

860
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: presecut pummeled. And here's the other thing, I don't know

861
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 5: if he's necessarly gonna get pumbled. Their defense, the Patriots

862
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: defense is going to be really freaking good. Right, They've

863
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 5: got players on that side of the ball. They're gonna

864
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: hold some of these teams down. I would still get

865
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: Drake May in there against this brutal schedule. I mean,

866
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: you look at all seventeen. It is rough, but the

867
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: one lost result is going to be the same. So

868
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: you go out there and you coach him up, You

869
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 5: let him take his lumps, you let him learn, because

870
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: to me, experience is the best teacher.

871
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: These guys aren't so fragile that if they're going to

872
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: be good that they can't handle some struggles as a rookie,

873
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Like if that's gonna be the thing that stops him,

874
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be great anyways. And Drake May

875
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: is just so talented you can't tell me he's not gonna.

876
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Make three to four just wow plays.

877
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: He's used to having a team around him that isn't

878
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: as good true as his opponent. It's like whenever Drake

879
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: May played a Georgia Tech or even a Virginia where

880
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: his teammates were about the same as the other team,

881
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: he destroyed them because he's in because he's absolutely incredible.

882
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: He's one of the best quarterback prospects I think in

883
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: the last decade. I think it's a little crazy he

884
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: went behind Jayden Daniels, but I get it. Jaden Daniels

885
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: was coming off such a good year. The trick is

886
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette is the best of all these quarterbacks, and

887
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: so the temptation will be, like, man, maybe we'd have

888
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: a better chance to win with Jacoby Brissett.

889
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true.

890
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 3: I'm just worried about their skill position players around Drake

891
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: may like who the pass catchers this is. I know

892
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: that the pass catchers weren't great last year, but I mean,

893
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: this feels like one of the most I don't. I

894
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: want to say this nicely, and it's difficult to say nicely,

895
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: but I just wish that there was more talent at

896
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: the skill position player, yes than there is.

897
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: Could running back garamondre Stevenson, but you know he could

898
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: have him turned a hand on the ball off. But look,

899
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: their defense is gonna be good enough for to play

900
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: conservative football. This is what we always hear about all

901
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: the time with rookie players. Now does he does not

902
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: have Keenan Allen, He does not have dj More, You know,

903
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: like Caleb, he does not have the eye.

904
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he has it in him

905
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: to play conservatively.

906
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: It's just well, then let him rip.

907
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: He's very very Josh Allen.

908
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: Like, let it rip, let him, let him go.

909
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: He might have some of the lumps that Josh Allen hadn't. Look,

910
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: it didn't slow Josh Allen down. He got better.

911
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: Look, look you look at that schedule.

912
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: That is a brutal run against some teams of good

913
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: defenses and teams that can put points on the board.

914
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: Let him go out there and experience it, let him

915
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: feel it, let him learn.

916
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Okay, bad more bad ideas kicking, like giving up completely

917
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: on the new kickoff rule and just kicking it to

918
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the thirty. I mean kicking it out of the end

919
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: zone every time and letting the other team take the

920
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: ball out the thirty. It's like that's a whack move.

921
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: That's just like hey, like I'm gonna take the ball

922
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: and go home. We're not even gonna try, Like we're

923
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: playing a sport and we're just gonna say we're not

924
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: good enough to figure this out. Like, that's not who

925
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you want running your team. Here's your white that's a

926
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: bad idea. I'm just gonna roll through a couple of

927
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: rapid fire sticking with Deshaun Watson.

928
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: No matter what happens this year.

929
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: If it goes.

930
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

931
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: Well, because I was a little negative on the Browns defense,

932
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: just like can they repeat it? I just mean, I

933
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: think they're at the year of the contract that if

934
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: it's really going poorly, I think this is the year

935
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: that you pull the ripcord and I don't know, you

936
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: look at their roster and it's loaded. They brought in Jamis,

937
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: they brought it, Like, why do they have so many quarterbacks?

938
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: Dt are?

939
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: They brought in Tyler Hunt and now they're going to

940
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: play them all. I'm just saying they have options. If

941
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: it was going real poor, Kevin Stefanski has some long

942
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: term security now with that new contract that take a

943
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: look at Jamis if it goes.

944
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: They should have assigned Joe Flatto. That's what you wanted

945
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: to say.

946
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 8: I know, I think he wanted to go back there.

947
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: We're talking to him at Honors NFL Honors Super Bowl

948
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: week and he seemed like he really wanted to go back.

949
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't draft Presol number two overall.

950
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: And fantas fantasy there you go not trust that.

951
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: And don't listen to Mike Florio about like hard knocks teams, like, oh,

952
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: we're showing too much information. And and it's getting out

953
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: there and it's bad for it. It's like, relax, it's

954
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: football teams not that big a deal. Teams have editorial

955
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: controllers who are showing and what's not fine.

956
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, they have the final set, like give us some

957
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 11: good shows, like knowing like if some information gets out

958
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 11: that hurts some people's feelings or you learn like ooh,

959
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 11: someone did a good job or a bad up, that's fine,

960
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 11: let them deal with.

961
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 8: That is the very point of the show exactly.

962
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: And it's already happened. Yes, you know, it's in the past.

963
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: I think this was a good idea, this segment. It was.

964
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 8: It was not a bad idea.

965
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: Good job, thank you, but you got but you just

966
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: you just emptied the clip.

967
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just decided I had a bunch. Let's get

968
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: him out there for the people. Uh, let's wrap up

969
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: with just a little after dinner man, like, you know,

970
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: just something nice to leave the show with. I don't

971
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: know if you guys have seen this clip yet of

972
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes throwing one of the best passes I've ever

973
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: seen throw. Just happened to come in training camp practice.

974
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Of course.

975
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: You can see this on her YouTube. Sprinting right not

976
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: even stopping his feet. Xavi A Worthy separating fifty five

977
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: sixty yards down the field at the end. I mean,

978
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: that is preposterous.

979
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: You know.

980
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: That's just like when DJ with nuts, when Zach Wilson

981
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: threw that at his pro day.

982
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: That's the.

983
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: That's the throw. I mean, that's a million Daniels Jeremias.

984
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: You're going nuts that.

985
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: You know.

986
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: The difference is there's a little bit of defense here

987
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: I guess not really no, and there's Xavier Worthy separating

988
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: and tracking that ball at the end. That's that's different

989
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: because they did not have a guy like that last

990
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: year on the Chiefs.

991
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: It is so much fun to watch those types of

992
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: plays at training camp because training camp is just so

993
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: much like oh, they're stretching again, like, or that guy's

994
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: on a bike now, like, But when that happens, it's

995
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: actually fun and it pops and it's like, okay, this

996
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: is why we're here.

997
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 5: And the best part about is Mahomes just said, if

998
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: I throw an interception, so what it's training camp. I

999
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: have been in too many practices where I've almost say quarterbacks,

1000
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 5: get there, you know what's kicked because in a play

1001
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: like that, they'll just like, check it down and the

1002
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: receivers run his tail off. It's the end of practice.

1003
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 5: He's already run like seven forty five yard routes. He's done,

1004
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you check it down. Underneath

1005
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: that says Patrick taking care right.

1006
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: I just think I'm excited that these plays are back.

1007
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: It's all happening once again. We're practicing football. And that

1008
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: play is a good example of what I say is

1009
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: like every week in the NFL there's a play that

1010
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: was better than any play in like the entire decade

1011
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: of the nineteen seventies or eighties. Like that throw, if

1012
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: that throw happened in the game like fifty years ago,

1013
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: can you imagine seeing that that is a preposterous throw.

1014
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not.

1015
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, this happens in every sport, Steve, I'm not,

1016
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: and not no disrespect to the old football players.

1017
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing.

1018
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: And in the NBA or tennis or whatever you want,

1019
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: they're just there these days.

1020
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: Ye saw Roger saw Back do that to Drew Peaks

1021
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 5: And I'm a Vikage fan.

1022
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm still crushed.

1023
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you talk about big play, the original

1024
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 5: Hill Mary still like digs at me.

1025
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, I was very excited to get you guys before

1026
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you head out on the roads. But yeah, check check

1027
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Speaker 1: out Stephen Colleen on NFL Network. ITC will try to

1028
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Speaker 1: get you on the podcast from the road or bringing

1029
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: my mic when you're back Colleen our next show. Very

1030
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: excited about this. We got Stacey Dale. She's already that's

1031
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: a good idea. She's talking bears. Nick Chukill also help

1032
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Speaker 1: me cover the news on that show. But I'm excited

1033
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Speaker 1: to talk about Stacy the most athletic NFL Network.

1034
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Speaker 2: Till then, see you next time.