1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Happy Saturday. Today we are jumping back to 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: an episode that was inspired by a trip I took 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: to Epcot. But don't worry if you're not into theme 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: park things. It is in no way about anything Disney. Nope. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: It is about the origins of the Phoenician alphabet and 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: how that failed a communication gap for merchants when it 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: was invented. So let's just hop right in. Welcome to 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Stuff you missed in History Class from how Stuff Works 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson, and today we're talking 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: about a piece of history that touches most people, and 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: probably most people that are listening to this podcast. Uh 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in English, yes, but it also touches many other languages, 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and that is the Phoenician alphabet. And it actually um 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I was inspired to research this a little bit because 16 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: last time I was in Epcot and I was writing 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Spaceship Earth, which, for anyone who doesn't know that Big 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: g d s sphere in the middle of the front 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: of the park that's kind of their icon. There's actually 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: a ride in that. It's a very gentle and calm 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: but air conditioned, which is important, and you get to 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: sit down for a lot ride yes, through sort of 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: the history of man and how we've evolved communications and 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: our communication methods. And the ride broke down as we 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: were just adjacent to the Phoenician tradership and so for 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and it was a long and unusually long breakdown, So 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: for like fifteen to twenty minutes, I just kept hearing 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: over and over Dame Judy Dench saying, remember how easy 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: it was to learn your A, B c's. Thank the Phoenicians, 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: they invented them. So after you hear that a hundred times, 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: you start to think you should thank the Phoenicians and 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: do some research. And that is how we landed here, 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: sort of imagining you in an no TV and no 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: beer make home or something something moment inside of Spaceship Earth. Well, 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to be fair, I really do love that ride, and 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I love watching the animatronics, and I kind of enjoy it, 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: but it did sort of eventually bore into my brain 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: and make me want to do some more research. Um So, 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: just for a little background on the Phoenicians. Uh, Phoenicia 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: was situated on the eastern side of the Mediterranean, so 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: along the coast of modern day Syria and Palestine and 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: including the lands of modern day Lebanon, but they were 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: pretty coastal. Their actual land wasn't very expansive, which is 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: likely why they turned to the sea and life as 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: merchants for most of their um income and sort of 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: well being. So while today the Phoenicians may be known 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: most for their alphabet, they innovated in other ways as well, 48 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: and one of my favorites is UH. They knew how 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: to make purple dye, which most people who have studied 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: history at all know is kind of a huge deal. Um. 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: It's a big textile advancement. They were actually known for 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: making some pretty impressive textiles. In the earliest example of 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: their production of this, so called royal purple, which is 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: a dye that was actually worse more than its way 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: in gold, was found in the excavations of the thirteenth 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: century BC levels of Um, the Phoenician city of Surrepta 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: in Lebanon, and incidentally UH and related to this, we 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: don't really know what the Phoenicians called themselves. The name 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: is actually Greek in origin, and it's believed to signify 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: the color purple red that they were known for making. 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Just kind of interesting. So the dye was so important 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: they named the whole people after. Yeah, it was a 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: huge part of their culture that that was one of 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: the things they had innovated. Some accounts even credit the 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Phoenicians with the discovery of glassmaking, and I read a 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: few different versions of how that was discovered, which is 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: why I qualify as some accounts, Uh they are. I mean, 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: they did make glass, but whether they actually discovered it 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: or picked it up and then refined it. Some historians 70 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: argue about, Yeah, I should have asked the boyfriend. Oh yeah, 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: because he's a pro it um, yes at how these 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: things come to be, has a degree in glass science. Yeah, 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: ask him and we'll get back to that one. But 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: they were also really great shipmakers and sailors, and according 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: to legend, one of their greatest sort of accomplishments in 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: terms of um seafaring was at the request of the 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Egyptian king Necho too, and they circumvented or circumnavigated rather 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Africa in six d b C. Which is huge. I mean, 79 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that's a long journey, and uh, most accounts suggest that 80 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: they actually stopped at one point and made land and 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: lived on the land for a little while and got 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: some crops going to sort of refill the boats. It 83 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: seems like some sort of restocking would have been necessary 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: just for what it takes to support people on a boat. Yeah, 85 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: And in two thousand and eight there was a reproduction 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: built of a Phoenician ship up and it actually sailed 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: the same course. And that's like a twenty thousand mile voyage, 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: so that's long, and it took that modern vessel two years. 89 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Uh So presumably you would have run out of supplies 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: in a two year period and would have had to restock. Um. 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: There are actually some historians who suspect that the Phoenicians 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: traveled all the way to North America, although that is 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: argued in UM in history circles controversial idea. Yeah, there's 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: a March CNN article about the possibility, and in it 95 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: they interviewed geology professor Dr Mark mcmanimum of Mount Holyoke 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: College and he mentions that they're actually Phoenician coins that 97 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: are inscribed with maps of the Old and New worlds, 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: which supports this idea that they did in fact make 99 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: it to the America's at some point. UM and the 100 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: same group that recreated that UM circumnavigation of Africa is 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: currently raising funds to sail that same ship across the 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Atlantic and try to see if that was true really possible, 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: because unlike where they went around Africa and they could 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: kind of pull in and stop, there's nowhere to pull in. 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: There's no um, there's no rest stop between between there 106 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: and and here. Yeah, the idea of going they could 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: find islands, but that that's kind of a little bit 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: of a long shot. Yeah. Well, and the idea of 109 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: going across the whole Atlantic Ocean in a little tiny boat, 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: it's kind of terrifying to me. It's not so tiny, 111 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: it's certainly not a cruise ship, but it's um. Yeah, 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: if I'm traveling across the whole Atlantic, I kind of 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: want there to be you know, a flighting city lifeboat 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: and and a safety drill before we leave about how 115 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: to get into the life boats. Yeah. I mean, I'm 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: sure I haven't read a lot about this particular plan, 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they have support crew always at the 118 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: ready because they are hooked up to like GPS and stuff. 119 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: They traded all over the Mediterranean and parts beyond, and 120 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: their culture is recognized as the first real globalized business, 121 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. And about the alphabet, so prior 122 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: to this alphabet, the Phoenicians were using a quine formed script, 123 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: just like the rest of Mespotamia was. The roots of 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the Phoenician alphabet are in the fifteenth century BC and 125 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: what's sometimes referred to as the Proto Canaanite or Proto 126 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Synetic alphabet. The earliest examples of Phoenician writing date back 127 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: to b C, and their inscriptions found in the city 128 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: of Biblos, and it is no accident that Biblos is 129 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: also the root word for BiblioTech and Bible and bibliography 130 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: exactly all of the book related words. Uh. If you 131 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: were to look at a linguistic family tree of alphabets, 132 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Phoenician would be really close to the base. And because 133 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: the Phoenicians traded with so many other cultures, their form 134 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: of written communications spread really quickly and really widely. Most 135 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: other alphabets can actually be traced back to the Phoenician alphabet. 136 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: So the direct descendants of it include Aramaic, Etruscan, Archaic, Greek, 137 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Old Hebrew, and Proto Arabic, and there's also even some 138 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: influence in Indian and East Asian language. Only consonants are 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: represented in the Phoenician alphabet, there are no vowels. This 140 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: is also called an ab jod alphabet. It made me 141 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: think of when I was researching it, when you see 142 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: people's license plates that just have, you know, a very 143 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: reduced version of a word and you have to kind 144 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: of fill in the vowels. Because initially I was like, 145 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: how did that work? But that was kind of my 146 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: modern ticket into how that might function. Were old real 147 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: estate listings for the Internet when you only had so 148 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: many column entes in the newspaper. Uh, and they are 149 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: actually only twenty two letters, and those letters can be 150 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: traced back to hieroglyphs in many cases, so their form 151 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: and even um. There's often in some historical accounts kind 152 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: of a flow chart of how like this word for 153 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: ox turned into this shape, which turned into this letter 154 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: which has similar sound or whatever. Um, So there it is. 155 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: It was born of these other things, but it filled 156 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: a void of sound based alphabet. Generally, Phoenician was written 157 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: from right to left, but in some instances it was 158 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: written in a bustropheten style, which means that it would 159 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: alternate direction once. One line would be written from right 160 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: to left and the next from left to right. The 161 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: alternating direction would continue, so somebody reading the language could 162 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: read their way down a passage of text without ever 163 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: having to jump visually to the start of a new line, 164 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: which as a child, I just wondered why that was 165 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: not how we did it. Well. It has been tried, apparently, 166 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: but most mostly Phoenician, to the best of my knowledge, 167 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: does go from right to left, and you do have 168 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: to do the jump, just like we do in our 169 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: left to right reading of English. There were also not 170 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: normally araces between words, which seems a little bit crazy, 171 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: I think to the modern mind. But there were sometimes 172 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: dots to distinguish words, and sometimes there were vertical slashes 173 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: like a vertical stroke. But eventually spaces did come into play, 174 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and by the sixth century BC, spaces were becoming more 175 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: common than the dots are the vertical strokes to create 176 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: word separation. The Phoenician numeral system was also written from 177 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: right to left, and it bears a resemblance to the 178 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: Roman numeral system. It combines symbols to create complex numbers 179 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot like Roman numerals do. Yeah, and much of 180 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: the Old Testament was originally written down using the Phoenician 181 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: alphabet because there weren't really any other options in the 182 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: way of a standardized writing system at the time that 183 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: was an actual alphabet and not pictogram So why did 184 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: the Phoenicians want to create an alphabet in the first place. 185 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: There is a very short answer for this book. Yes 186 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: they were um. They were training Roman scholar Pliny the 187 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Elder is credited with defining the Phoenicians as the first 188 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: traveling salesman, and Pliny the Elder gets a little bit 189 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: of um a grain of salt with anything you read. 190 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: He was apparently given to exaggeration, and he was very 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: very pro Phoenician like, he really admired that culture. But 192 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: it is pretty widely accepted that he was accurate in 193 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: this characterization of them um because they were traveling all 194 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: over the place and their entire culture was really based 195 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: on trade. So, as we mentioned, they traveled all over 196 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean and maybe even the globe. The goal of 197 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: the new alphabet was to create a system that would 198 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: be easy to learn and understand by their business associates. 199 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: And before this written communication had been pretty pictogram based. 200 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: It was so diversified that different societies could not share 201 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: written information and have everyone know what the symbols meant so, 202 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: the Phoenicians found this way to break words down into 203 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: characters with different sounds that could be combined to create 204 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: any number of words. Because this was a written codification 205 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: of sound instead of pictograms, it was easily adaptable to 206 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: multiple languages. And because this alphabet was invented to record 207 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: and track trades, the alphabet itself sort of became traded. Uh. 208 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: It was the language of business transactions, but it also 209 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: got adopted for general use because it filled this void 210 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: of systemized writing that was again not pictogram based, that 211 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: people could pick up pretty easily. And let's let's see 212 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: more easily transliterate other language exactly. Cadmus, the Phoenician, is 213 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: giving credit for introducing the alphabet of his people to 214 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the Greeks, as told in the writings of Herodotus and 215 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Herodotus says, the Phoenicians who came with Cadmus introduced into 216 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Greece after their settlement in the country a number of accomplishments, 217 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: of which the most important was writing and art till then, 218 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: I think, unknown to the Greeks. At first, they used 219 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: the same characters as all the other Phoenicians, but as 220 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: time went on and they changed their language. They also 221 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: changed the shape of their letters. At that period, most 222 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: of the Greeks in the neighborhood were Ionians. They were 223 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: taught these letters by the Phoenicians and adopted them with 224 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: a few alterations for their own use, continuing to refer 225 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: to them as the Phoenician characters, as was only right 226 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: as the Phoenicians had introduced them, so even though it 227 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: had evolved, they still attributed its um the alphabet to 228 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: the Phoenicians. We should point out that even though this 229 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: was a defined writing system, there were variations on the 230 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: alphabet in different Phoenician colonies cypro Phoenician, Sardinian, and the 231 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: Punic and Neo Punic, which is the cursive version of 232 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Punic versions founding Carthage. The Carthage versions of the alphabets 233 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: continued to be used until about the third century CE, 234 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: and with the development of this new written alphabet also 235 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: came new ways of writing, so it kind of catalyzed 236 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: a whole new age of communication, and wax tablets came 237 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: into being where they could um imprint letters into the wax. Pens, ink, papyrus, parchment, 238 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: and eventually paper kind of all came from this development. 239 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: So it was a very rapid gross element in the 240 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: world of communication. In three thirty two BC, Alexander the 241 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: Great put Phoenicia under Greek control, and then in one 242 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: BC Roamed demolished Carthage after pursuing Hannibal. There after the 243 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Second Punic War, and what was left of Phoenicia became 244 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: part of the Roman Empire. And ironically, very few instances 245 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: of Phoenician writings actually remain. The papyrus that they often 246 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: wrote on, and some of those early forms of paper 247 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: has really not survived terribly well. What we know mostly 248 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: is from other cultures writing about how awesome the Phoenicians 249 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: were and about their alphabet and its development. Um. The 250 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: oldest surviving Phoenician writing example, which we briefly mentioned earlier, 251 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: is in Biblos, and it's on the sarcophagus of King 252 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: high Riem and it's dated at approximately And most of 253 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: what we know, like I said, has actually come from 254 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: the writings of the Greeks. So even though the Phoenicians 255 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: have kind of there's a little bit of a shroud 256 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: of um lack of information around them from them, other 257 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: cultures wrote about them enough that we know about them. 258 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: So now if you're stuck in Spaceship Earth. You'll know, 259 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: thank the Phoenicians even to them. Also, the way that 260 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Dame Judy Dench says that is so charming that I 261 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: will never ever forget it. It's pretty awesome. It's because 262 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Dame Judy Dinch is awesome. Yeah, she is. 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