1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a very popular 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: local private investigator end up dead? Now, this is a 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: guy much loved in the community, that knows everybody's deep 4 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: dark secrets. I mean, when you're in a small town, 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: small town comparatively, and you know who's cheating on who what, 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: husband wants you to tell his wife, and vice versa, 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: who's paying somebody off, who wants undercover surveillance? You know 8 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: it all. Did that have anything to do with the 9 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: death of a thirty seven year old husband and dad 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: and the prime of his life? As I mentioned, much 11 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: love in the community. Jim Capello Junior, Crime Stories with 12 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, I mean, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 13 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation 14 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: and series XIM one eleven. First of all, take a 15 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at WAFF forty eight Listurley, Jim 16 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: Capello Senior, and jim sister Jamie. We're driving to Huntsville 17 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: from out of state to lead a search team to 18 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: find Jim. Jim's wife posted on Facebook that she had 19 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: last spoken to him Thursday morning. She asked for help 20 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: looking for him Friday. Jim's sister spoke to him late 21 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, eleven o'clock. I had my way to work. 22 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: On my way to the car, I did call him 23 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: and he answered and he was panicky, real panicky, anxious. 24 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: He couldn't get his words together. I TechEd Nicky and 25 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: asked her how his night was. She said, at one 26 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: point he woke up freezing and she warmed him up. 27 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: But after that he slept well, and he's doing well 28 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: this morning. I tried calling him twice that day, on 29 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: two separate occasions, and he didn't answer. Jamie is a nurse, 30 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: and she knew that her baby brother was suddenly and 31 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: mysteriously very ill. What do we know about his ailments? 32 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel. Rachel Hammers crime online 33 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter joining us there and Huntsville. Jennifer Shan, 34 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: forensic pathologist, former director of the San Diego Police Department 35 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: Crime Lab. You can find her at jen Shann forensics 36 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: dot com. Former FBI special agent, no stranger to crime scene. 37 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Cortesi, renowned psychiatrists, joining us out of the Atlanta area. 38 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold, Jim Elliott, attorney with Butler Snow, legal 39 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: counsel for multiple municipalities at Butler snow dot com and 40 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: special guests joining us the sister of the victim, Jim Cappello, 41 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Jamie Weist. First of all, I want to go to 42 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Rachel Hammers. Rachel, what can you hold? Hold on? Jackie, 43 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. First to Jamie Wist, I want to 44 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: go to Jim Cappello's sister. I want to hear about 45 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: the victim in this case. Jim Cappello first reported missing. 46 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: He was extremely popular. Tell me about his private investigator's practice. 47 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: What's his background? Well, he worked for a very well 48 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: known um firm. He would do anything from delivering subpoenas 49 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: to following cases cheating husbands, cheating wives. He was involved. 50 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: He had to stand in a lot of trials in 51 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: court talk about what evidence he was able to obtain. 52 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: He was very good at what he did, very good. 53 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: He was h He held a leading practice in Huntsville. 54 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: You know to you, Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent, 55 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: have you ever been on a steakout? Made up a 56 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: bachelor jority of my twis? So you know, to be 57 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: a private eye you have to tell people all the time. 58 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: So you've done steakouts? Jeff Cortesi. Have you ever tailed somebody? 59 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: It's reel hard. It's not like in the movies. No, 60 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: it isn't. It isn't. It takes a certain expertise, that's 61 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I've done a lot of steakouts 62 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: and I've done a lot of telling and it is 63 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: not easy. It's not easy at all. It's nothing like 64 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: in the movies where you follow and you make all 65 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: those green lights and you go right behind them. They 66 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: never notice you're there. It's nothing like that same thing 67 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: with a steakout. It's nothing like you're led to believe 68 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: it is on TV. Explain what it takes to be 69 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: an investigator, Jeff CORTEZI it's a it's a combination of 70 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: science and art. It is not, as you said, It 71 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: isn't as simple as sitting across the street from a house. 72 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: It's it's understanding your environment. It's understanding how you appear 73 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: to the people outside of your vehicle. It's creating a 74 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: situation whereby you are able to conduct whatever necessary surveillance 75 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: without being identified as surveillance. And that takes it, like 76 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: I said, a lot of understanding of techniques and thinking 77 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: outside the box in order to ensure that you can 78 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: be in an area without being seen as out of 79 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: place within that area. So very sophisticated investigative technique. And 80 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: when we fail at within the law enforcement community constantly, 81 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: it's all the time, all the time, lose our our targets. 82 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you get out it in a neighborhood 83 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: and you know, Jeff Cortez a the police, the fans, 84 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: they're always the butt of jokes about being you know, 85 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: let's just say, tripping out of their own sheaf. But 86 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: when you're out there and you're telling somebody or you're 87 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: doing a stakeout, it's really actually very difficult to pull 88 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: it off. This guy, this guy, Jim Cappella Junior, can 89 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: do it because according to my information, he's had a 90 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: pride to since two thousand and six and was private 91 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: investigating before that, long before that. So you don't stay 92 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: in the business and make a go of it if 93 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: you're not any good. It's just that simple. So this 94 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: guy go ahead, No, I was just gonna say, you know, 95 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I bet you he that was his bread and butter, 96 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: just like it was for US. Surveillance Week obtained some 97 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: of the most critical evidence via surveillance and if you 98 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: aren't good at it, you will not you will not 99 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: make it in that industry. So he had to have 100 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: been good at it. Did you hear what the sister 101 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Jamie West said. She said he had worked for another firm. 102 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: He had to deliver subpenis. That's certainly putting perfume on 103 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: the pig. I have sat outside somebody's apartment for up 104 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: to seven to eight twelve hours waiting for them to 105 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: come out so I could go up and hand them 106 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: with subpoena. I have hidden in parking lots between cars, 107 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: waiting to see somebody come out of their office building 108 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: and walk to their car so I could ambush them 109 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: with a subpoena. And a subpoena dukes take them for 110 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: documents or objects. That's not easy. You can get shot at, 111 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: you can get cursed at. People run from you if 112 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: they know what you want. I mean, it's a hard 113 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: way to make a living. Would you agree with that, 114 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Cortesi, Absolutely absolutely, And not only that. Doctor Angela Arnold, 115 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: a psychiatrist joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. The 116 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: people you hang around with. I told the story the 117 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: other day. I was trying to get ahold of a 118 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: defense attorney on a Friday afternoon for a month, telling 119 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: us a Monday morning court hearing. Finally got his secretary, 120 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: his assistant. He was with clients. Guess where he was. 121 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: He was with a bunch of his doper clients at 122 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: the Magic City Strip Club. I found him. But what 123 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, when you work as a PI a 124 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: lot of your clients, let's just say it ain't no 125 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: tea party, Angela. Right, that's all you've got to say. 126 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: You're a psychiatrist, and all you can say is right. 127 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the 128 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: death of a husband, a father, a good looking guy, 129 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: his life in front of him, his own firm as 130 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: a private investigator that he fought tooth and nail to 131 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: get and sustain. So back to you, doctor Angela Arnold, 132 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: all you can say is right. When I'm telling you 133 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and that line of business, you're not hanging around with 134 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: nuns and priests and virgins. No, I completely agree with you, 135 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: and I don't know a lot of people that do 136 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: this work, but it sounds like a very dangerous line 137 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: of work. Well, doctor angel Arnold, let me let me 138 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: be more clear, Let me refine my question for you. 139 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Don't you agree that when you hang around haven't you 140 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: ever heard birds of a feather flock together? Or water 141 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: seeks its own level, or go to bed with a dog, 142 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: wake up with a flea? Get it? You see where 143 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm going with this? Yes? Do I have to pull 144 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: a tooth? I'm a JD not a DDS. No. So 145 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: so with other words, if he hangs around with bad people, 146 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that makes them that person. So, Jamie Yeast, No, I'm 147 00:10:53,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: not saying he's well, Jamie Yeast, Your brother, Jim Capello 148 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: had never been in any kind of trouble before. No 149 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: loving dad, loving husband, family, extended family, and he was 150 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of like the guy in the community. I'm talking 151 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: about hunts Alabama known as Rocket City, the star of Alabama, 152 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: population around two hundred thousand, and he was very well 153 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: known locally. Am I correct on all that? Jamie? You 154 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: said it correctly? And I liked what the other gentleman said. 155 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: And that was his bread and butter. That was definitely 156 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: he loved his job. Even more importantly, he just he 157 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: loved what he was doing. What did he love about it? 158 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: Because many people believed at the get go that his 159 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: line of business, being a pride an investigator and knowing 160 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: all these deep dark secrets, seed secrets. There are secrets 161 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: for a reason may have been connected to his murder. 162 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I feel like he was making a difference and he 163 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: liked the feeling that he was needed and he could 164 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: help people. And you know, he was able to help 165 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: people in situations such as going through divorces that he 166 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: needed to get the evidence for them. You know, they 167 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: were they were cheating then the significant other, you know, 168 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: was trying to get their children or you know, he 169 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: got it. There was some heavy you know what, Jamie, 170 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: that sounds like sticking your hand in the middle of 171 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: a dog fight. Jim Elliott, attorney with Butler Snow represents 172 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: multiple cities, towns, counties, municipalities butlersnow dot com. Jim Elliott, 173 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: I've got a friend, a very close friend, and she 174 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: does practically nothing but dope, trafficking, possession, intent, simple possession, manufacturing, distribution, 175 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: the works. Why because she never ever, ever wants to 176 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: handle a divorce case. Why because it's more likely that 177 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a angry husband or wife will shoot the lawyer than 178 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: a doper. Plenty of examples of that. So she totally 179 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: quit the divorce business. Now, when you'd rather represent a 180 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: dope lord than handle a divorce. A divorce case, especially 181 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: between rich people, they get really nasty. Or when children 182 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: are involved and somebody's cheating, emotions run so high. What 183 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: do you have to say about that, Jim Elliott. It's 184 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: probably the most volatile practice of law, because I mean, 185 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: you'll expression health, healthinsury, and they're going to be angry 186 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: at not me, their spouse or former spouse, but anybody 187 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: associated with them, the lawyer, the investigator, the counselor whomever. 188 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: And so that's a it's very ballatile, I believe. I mean, 189 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: think about it, Jim Elliott. You know my husband and 190 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: my children, and I love David, but he better not 191 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: ever get between me and my children. Oh no, don't, 192 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: don't even. So here is this guy, Jim Elliott, who 193 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: is helping one side of the other and divorce cases. 194 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: And you may think you've got the good client, the 195 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: good side of the divorce, but you know, you don't 196 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: really always know. It's like a tiger by the tail. 197 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: You can't hold on and you can't let go. I mean, 198 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: so here is this guy turns up dead and he 199 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: is a well known PI in the middle of all 200 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: these divorce cases, jump in, Jim Elliott, Well, whatever, you 201 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: know what, being on the quote good side of the divorce, 202 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean that makes it even more risking for him 203 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: because he's because again be your opponent or adversary who 204 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: never is a bad person in that situation. And exactly again, 205 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: as you say, from children are involved, there's no limit 206 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: to what some people will do. Now and think about it. 207 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Jim, let me go to a shrink on this, 208 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: and Jim, you and I are just JD's. We need 209 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: a shrink on this, Doctor Angela Arnold. I mean, if 210 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: it were me and my children, there was a risk 211 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have custody of them. I wouldn't see them 212 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: every single day. I go berserk, berserk, and I would 213 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: probably blame everybody on the other side. There was to 214 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: blame everybody, from my husband to the lawyer, to the judge, 215 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: to the private eye, to the clerk. The whole kitten 216 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: gaboodle would get my wrath or I'd want them to. 217 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: What is that normal, old, doctor Angela, Well, I think 218 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: that that's normal, Nancy. But I think that to murder 219 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: someone is a different is taking it to a different level. 220 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: That's true. But the other thing is though, And Jim Elliott, 221 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned that this has happened a lot of times 222 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: in divorce cases. I've seen lawyer shot over a divorce 223 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: case where a client or unhappy on another case, Well, 224 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: actually get the lawyer come out of court. I remember 225 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: one where they were chasing him and the lawyer was 226 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: hiding behind a tree outside the courthouse, and the one 227 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: of his clients had a gun and was chasing him 228 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: around the courthouse. And here you got a PI up 229 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: to his neck and all this. Who probably testified or 230 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: big depositions or APPI David's and so again, and someone's 231 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: looking for someone to blame. The PI would be a 232 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: very convenient target. We know that he was also married. 233 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Rachel Hammers, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Huntsville, Alabama. 234 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: What more do we know about the victim's background? What 235 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: can you tell me the background? Where is he from? 236 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: Was it how many children? The whole shebang? Tell me 237 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: where did they live? Everything? They lived in South Huntsville. 238 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: His wife is a nurse, and of course his sister 239 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: spoke to his background as being a private investigator. They 240 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: had a daughter by all evidence. It looks like the 241 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, the typical suburban family life. To Jamie Wee 242 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: special guests joining us, this is Jim Capello's sister. I'm 243 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: trying to get an idea of who this guy is. 244 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about his personality? He was 245 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: a funny guy. He was always trying to uplift a 246 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: bad situation. If you were having a bad day, he 247 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: would use his sense of humor and his jokes and 248 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: he'd be able to twist it around and by the 249 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: end of that conversation you were laughing. He would go 250 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: out of his way to make someone else's life better. 251 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: He was everyone's best friend, and I learned so much 252 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: more about him. Even after this, So many more people 253 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: would come up to me telling me stories and situations 254 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: that they were involved with him, and how much they 255 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: loved him and respected him and cared about him. He 256 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: just left a mark and so many people's lives, and 257 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: you know, right down to his daughter who just looked 258 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: up to him every day. And let me ask you this, 259 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: do you remember them You heard your brother wasnt was missing? 260 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Prime stories with Nancy Grace everybody. For those 261 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: of you just joining us, private investigator Jim Capello, Junr. 262 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: Husband father dead with a thriving private eye practice. Did 263 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: that have anything to do with his death? Joining me 264 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: Special guests. Jamie Wist, the sister of Jim, the aunt 265 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: to the little girl you were about to tell me 266 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: about when you first learn that your brother is missing. 267 00:19:53,560 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: What happened? Well, I received a text at eight fifty 268 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: in the morning I'll never forget. And this was Friday, 269 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: September twenty first, and it was from my mother and 270 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: she asked me, have you heard from Jim? And I said, well, 271 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: I didn't hear from him yesterday. I heard from him 272 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: the day before that he wasn't when he wasn't feeling well. 273 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: I said, I've called him twice, but no, I haven't 274 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: heard from him today. And she said, while his phone 275 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: is at home but not him. Nicky found it. Jamie, 276 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: I'm really upset. This is not like him. His phone, laptop, cars, 277 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: everything's at home. I just found this out. So I called, Okay, 278 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: so you what you learned that he's missing through your 279 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: mother and the two of your mother and your mom 280 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: tells you his phone in his car is at home, 281 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: but he's missing. That's right. She knew the car was there. 282 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: How close does the mom lived your mom lived to him, 283 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: did she drive by and see the car? She did not. 284 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: She heard from She got this information from Laura. Laura 285 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: is one of the private investigators that worked for my brother, 286 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: so she found this out from her. Okay, how did 287 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: you know the phone that his cell phone was in 288 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: the home. I think that was communicated between Laura and Nikki. 289 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? So? I think I 290 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: think we were all finding this out um this Friday, 291 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: and I have not I wasn't contacted yet. So I 292 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: think Laura and some other really good friends and my 293 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: brothers was suspicious of him not coming into work that 294 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: day before Thursday. Okay, so that's what raised the red 295 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: flag of alarm. Yea to Jennifer Shn forensic pathologists joining us. 296 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: You can find it at jenshen Forensics dot com. The 297 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: fact that the first red flag was raised by people 298 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: at work is concerning to me, and I'll tell you why, 299 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: because I would think that someone in his family would 300 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: first notice he's missing, and the fact that his car 301 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: is there and we now know his cell phone is there, 302 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: that changes things in your experience. Jennifer Shn, how often 303 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: do coworkers report the person missing. That's really great point, Nancy. 304 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: And when leased some coworkers reporting someone missing is generally 305 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: when the missing person doesn't have a family that they're 306 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: living with. And because you're right, I mean, the first 307 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: person that should know something, as in this would be 308 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: the person that you live with, your wife, your children, 309 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: your husband, whoever. So when the co workers are raising 310 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: the alarm, it's because that person doesn't have that support 311 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: structure in the home and that's why no one's noticed 312 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: that they are missing until they don't show up at work. 313 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: And someone like this is obviously as successful as he is, 314 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: would not be someone who just would not show up 315 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: to work without letting anyone know. That would in fact 316 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: be a very big red flag. Guys joining us as 317 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: a sister of Jim Capello, Jamie Weist, Jim Elliott, doctor 318 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: Angela Arnold, Jeff Cortesi, Jennifer Schen and Rachel Hammers. I 319 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: want you to take a listen now to cut eleven Fox, 320 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: Starty jacksonvill reporter Megan Moriarity. Jamie Weist is choosing to 321 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: be strong and hold on to fief after losing her 322 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: brother James. I want everyone to know the person my 323 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: brother was. He was private investigator in Huntsville, Alabama, a 324 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: beloved friend, and the father of a beautiful little girl. 325 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: She mentions almost every day, if not every other day, 326 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I miss my daddy. Jamie is not only playing the 327 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: role of aunt, but she's also acting as a parent 328 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: for her five year old niece. We have four kids 329 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: now and between the ages of five and seven, so 330 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: literally she fits right in there. The little girl was 331 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: moved from Alabama and now lives in Jacksonville. This is 332 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: all while consoling her when she says that she wishes 333 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: her dad was still here. Before she goes to bed, 334 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: she either gives him a kiss, or she gives him 335 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: a hug, or sometimes she sleeps with that picture. Jamie 336 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: also has a Facebook group called Legacy of James Capello, 337 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: where people can post stories about her brother. She plans 338 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: to take those stories and make a memory book for 339 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: her niece. You were hearing about the victim's daughter and 340 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: what she is going through at the death of her father. Now, 341 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: as the case develops, take a listen to our friends 342 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: and cut six WAF forty eight reporter Lindsay Knew. The 343 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: state is still waiting to receive the final autopsy report, 344 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: but the medical examiner told officials it's consistent with being 345 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: poisoned by insolent. A check at the hospital where Cappella's 346 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: wife worked as a charge nurse showed that insolent was missing. 347 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: The judge found probable cause for the case to move 348 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: forward in court. What the victim's family was hoping for. 349 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: He's shining down on us right now. He's with us 350 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: every step of the way. You know, he was well 351 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: known in the Huntsville community. Here's my son, and I 352 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: miss him. He didn't deserve this, but he deserves justice. 353 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: The couple's daughter, meanwhile, is in the care of loving relatives. 354 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Straight out to Jamie, we see sister of Jim Cappella, 355 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: who is now raising his daughter, Riley. When you her 356 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: that your brother was missing, what happened next? So nine 357 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: minutes later, literally I text Nikki and I wanted to 358 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: find out. I asked her, what in the world is 359 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: going on? My mom is contacting me. That's when she 360 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: text back and confirmed Jim is missing now and no 361 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: one has talked to him or seeing him since I 362 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: did yesterday morning. So you know, I called her prior 363 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: to texting. She didn't answer. I called again after I 364 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: received that text message, and she answered and we had 365 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: a conversation, and after hanging up, I was shooken up. 366 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: The conversation just didn't seem right to me. It didn't 367 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: make sense. It just didn't make sense. She didn't seem 368 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: sad or concerned. I was asking her, oh, my gosh, 369 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, dear, have you told your parents yet? She 370 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: said no, I haven't told them yet. I'm like, why, 371 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, and she said, well, they're going to be 372 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: leaving town, and you know, she was talking about well. 373 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I said, well, my gosh, I got to get down there. 374 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: I need to help you and Riley, and we need 375 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: to figure this out as a you know, as a family. 376 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I'll have somebody watch her. I'm 377 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: going to go back to work. And I'm like, why 378 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: would you be going? You know, just the conversation was 379 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: very strange to me. And I hung up with her, 380 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: and I immediately called the Huntsville Police Department to find 381 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: out if a missing report was filed. They did not 382 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: have anything on file. I don't know what their protocol 383 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: is or how quickly that you know, it comes up, 384 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: but I had called my mother, and I told her 385 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: that she needed to file one. I don't know if 386 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: one was filed or not, but she needed to file one. 387 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: And literally thirty minutes after that text message that I 388 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: sent to Nikki, I was already posting on social media 389 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: that he was missing. I was the first person to 390 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: post on social media that he was missing. And you know, 391 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: it just went on from there. My mother had filed 392 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: a police report. She had an officer and come to 393 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: her apartment. I spoke to him briefly over the phone, 394 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: and then that Saturday morning, I was on a mission. 395 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I packed my bags, I found somebody to take care 396 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: of our kids, and my husband and I left and 397 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: with very little on us, and we were on a 398 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: mission that we were going to find him. Crime Stories 399 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Guys with Me is Jamie Weis's sister 400 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: victim Jim Cappello, describing her search for her brother then 401 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: missing a local private investigator, Jamie we So, you say, 402 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: you and your husband throw some stuff together and you 403 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: went on a mission. What happened then, Oh, we were 404 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: on a mission. We drove up there, but during the 405 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: drive we were calling people. We were calling for police dogs, 406 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: we were calling trying to get in touch with media 407 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: to help with a search hunt. My father was on 408 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: his way. He was in Buffalo and he had a 409 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: flight and he was on his way down there. We 410 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: were contacting fire departments, urban search and rescue dogs, bloodhound 411 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: tracking dogs, police departments around town. We were contacting people 412 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: who had organizations for missing persons. During our drive, we 413 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: had an organization make a flyer for us. We submitted 414 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: pictures and then we immediately had those pictures posted and 415 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: shared on media on social media. And you know, the 416 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: plan was once we arrived, we were I was we 417 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: were going to start on foot and we were just 418 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna we were. I was determined to find him. Let 419 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: me ask you this, how did it strike you when 420 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: you call the police and found out there was no 421 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: missing person's report filed, and you go online and you 422 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: realize you're the first person to post that your brother 423 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Jim is missing. No postings, no missing person nothing. I 424 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: found that to be strange. I just didn't know what 425 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: to make of it. I didn't know what to make 426 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: of it. All kinds of things were going in my 427 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: head and I was trying to be realistic with what 428 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I what the information that I had At that point, 429 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: I was trying not to steer my mind off of 430 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: what I thought was bogus thought I was, I'm like, 431 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I just have to get through this. I need to 432 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I need to find him. So the first place you 433 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: went is the home? So I um so yes that. 434 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Um Let's see, it was that Friday. So it was 435 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: that the friday I had tech Niki and I said, um, 436 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: is it okay if we stay at your house. I'm 437 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to head down there first thing in the morning. 438 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Chris and I are going is okay if we, you know, 439 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: stay at the house. And She's like, She's like, Jesus, Jamie, 440 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: you know this is this is going to make it. 441 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, Riley think that something's up. I understand wanting 442 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: to come, but it would just you would just be 443 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: sitting around. And I said, it doesn't matter. If it's 444 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: my daughter, my husband, brother, I'm going to do everything 445 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: in my capable hands to help Solpha mead searching on foot, 446 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: then so be it will stay in a hotel. So 447 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: I left that Saturday morning and we had up there 448 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: and my father had arrived on flight and he arrived 449 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: before I did. And when he got to the house, 450 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: there was police cars already. He was texting me this information. 451 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't get there fast enough. I didn't 452 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: know what was going on. I didn't know, you know, 453 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: I was just getting little tidbits of information. Oh now 454 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: there was, you know, a crime scene tape up and 455 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I nobody was telling us anything. Did you go to 456 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the house? I did not when I entered. When I 457 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: arrived Saturday afternoon, when my husband and I arrived, we 458 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: pulled up and the detective immediately pulled us aside and 459 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: told us, when you pulled up to where the house? Oh, 460 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: so you did go to the house? I did. We 461 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: went straight to the house. We did not go in 462 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: the house. Okay, there was crime scene, yes, yes, man, 463 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: there was crime scene tape all around and police cars 464 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: and what have you. But as soon as we arrived, 465 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: the detective pulled us aside and said what and said 466 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: that they had found that there's a body in the house. 467 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: And I lost it and he asked me, does your 468 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: brother have tattoos? And I lost it again. Let me 469 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: ask you, this was your brother already there, I mean, 470 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: your father already there when you arrived at the home. Yep, 471 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: he was guys, I want you to take a listen 472 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: to reporter Aaron Kentrell debut h and Team News Nighteam 473 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Marjorie Cappello wrote on Facebook she was concerned that she 474 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: couldn't find her husband, Jim. She was asking anyone with 475 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: any information to let her know. Marjory Cappello, also known 476 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: as Nikki on Facebook, wrote the following post. If anyone 477 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: has heard from Jim since Wednesday, please let me know. 478 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: I spoke within Thursday at five am and no one 479 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: has seen or heard from him since the police report 480 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: has been filed. But if anyone has any information, please 481 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: reach out. HPD Taels whin ten news nineteen that Capello 482 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: was reported missing Thursday night by a friend and family members. 483 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: Police a Marjorie Cappello did not let investigators inside the 484 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: home when they asked to search it Saturday, but she 485 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: voluntarily went to the Huntsville Police Department for questioning. Since 486 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: she did not let police inside, they had to get 487 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: a search warrant. Police spend several hours at the home. 488 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: So what we're learning is that originally the wife, Nikki, 489 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: would not let police in to search the home. What 490 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: if it has anything to do with the same reason 491 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: she would not let her sister in law come to 492 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: the home and stay. To Rachel Hammer's Crime online dot 493 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter joining US Huntsville, Rachel, what do you 494 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: know about the wife refusing to let the cops in? 495 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: That's a surefire way to get them to go get 496 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: a search warrant. Oh? Absolutely, Well, when the Jamie said, 497 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, the co workers went first and she wouldn't 498 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: let them in, and his car was there. Then when 499 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: the police came back Saturday, one went around front, one 500 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: went around back, and she refused them injury as well. 501 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this to Jim Elliott, how 502 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: often is it that a woman's husband goes missing as 503 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: she refuses to let the police into the home to 504 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: search the home? That certainly raises some red flags. I mean, 505 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: even with his line of work, when there could be 506 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: a number of people that were angry with him. I mean, 507 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: obviously you start looking closest to the victim, and that 508 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: reaction certainly probably gave the officers and law enforcement all 509 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: they needed to begin the search. Yeah, I mean I'd 510 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: call a magistrate right then and get a search. Want 511 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: to Jennifer Shan, forensic pathologist at jen Shan Forensics. What 512 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: would insulin do to your body if you were injected 513 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: with insulin and you were not diabetic, well, it would 514 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: be very bad. Basically, your insulin is in your bloodstream. 515 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: Is that regulates how much sugar you have in it. 516 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: So if you have too much sugar, that's really bad 517 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: for you, and if you have too little sugar, that's 518 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: really bad for you. So in this case, it would 519 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: have put him in a situation where his blood sugar 520 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: was exceptionally low. And in cases where there's a huge 521 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: dose of insulin in someone's body that doesn't need it, 522 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of you know, for a 523 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of symptoms. You would see anxiety, confusion, the teague, irritability, 524 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: but extreme symptoms would be lost of consciousness, teasers, coma, 525 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: and then eventually death. So it is absolutely so dangerous 526 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: to us with a hormone like that in someone's body. 527 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Jamie Waste, Jim Capella's sister. So you get there and 528 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: detail for us what you learned from police. They told 529 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: me that there was a body inside the house, um 530 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: specifically the garage, and that he was on a blue 531 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: tarp and um honorably tarp inside the garage, Yes, and 532 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: she was. She was downtown for questioning. Did they tell 533 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: you the cause of death at that time? Now they 534 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: did not. When did you learn the cause of death? Within? 535 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: The autopsy came back? And I can't recall. I felt 536 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: like it was forever. M What did you learn about 537 00:37:52,760 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: the cause of death? That it was consistent with insulin toxicity? 538 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: That is what I was told. And isn't it true 539 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: that the wife, Nicki Cappello, aged thirty three, was a 540 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: nurse and had access to insulin and that insulin was 541 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: missing from that unit? That is what I was told? Correct? 542 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the wife at any point since? Then? 543 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: To Nicki Cappello? Now I have not. Guys, take a 544 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: listen to Mark Hoover on Catch My Killer. Jim was 545 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: a successful private investigator in Alabama. Jim and his wife, 546 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: Nicole Nicky Cappello, were married with a daughter. Like any 547 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: other marriage, the Cappellos had their marital issues, but Jim 548 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: suspected that Nicole was using drugs. After using his experience 549 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: as a private investigator, Jim found evidence of drug abuse. 550 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: He visited his inn laws, hoping that they would help 551 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: with an intervention. According to WAF forty eight News. On 552 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: September twenty first, twenty eighteen, Nicole Cappello filed a missing 553 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: person's report on her husband, Jim. Jim's co workers also 554 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: became concerned because Jim didn't come to work. Concern workers 555 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: called Nicole and then visited Jim's home on Lauderdale Road 556 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: in South Huntsville. However, she didn't allow them inside the house. 557 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: It must have seemed strange because Jim's car was visible. 558 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: Not only were their marital problems. Reportedly after he, the 559 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: husband now deceased, finds evidence of drug abuse by the wife. 560 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: Other problems existed as well. But when the police get there, 561 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: they find a fresh grave in the back yard. They 562 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: then find Jim's body in the garage. Nikki then a 563 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: nurse with access to insulin, you know, Jamie wist what 564 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: could possibly have been the motive? I have no idea. 565 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: I would love that answer. I really would love that 566 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: to get that answer. I have no idea. What could 567 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: come of her to be able to do something like this. Well, 568 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: if he had found evidence that she had been using drugs, 569 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: he could get soul custody of the little girl, the daughter. 570 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: I know he was working a case he was, you know, 571 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: building a case for himself. I mean, I think he 572 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: knew what it would take to be able to get 573 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: soul custody a father of his daughter, and he was 574 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: just starting to look into things. And I mean he 575 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: didn't talk to a diverse a divorce divorce attorney, he 576 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: didn't file papers. He was looking into his own life. 577 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: He was investigating his own what was going on in 578 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: his own household during their marriage. What was her demeanor 579 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: when you guys would get together at you know, Christmas 580 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: or Thanksgiving? I mean, did they seem like a happy couple? 581 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: What was she like? I mean I was just there, um, 582 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: July thirty first to August fifth, I was there with 583 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: my with my kids for Riley's birthday party. I mean, 584 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: and that was what like a you know, shy of 585 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: two months prior to this happening. And it was a 586 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: beautiful birthday party, was you know, friends and family. And 587 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: I saw my brother even joking around with Nikki and 588 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: he uh pushed her into the baby pool and you know, 589 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: was throwing water balloons and they you know got her 590 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: wet and you know, joking around like you know, but 591 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: they had I didn't see any strong red flags. I 592 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't see that divorce was before that incident. During the years, 593 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: what was their relationship? Did they seem happy? Yeah, they 594 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: seemed happy. I mean he you know, he was very 595 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: He put a lot of hours into his work, A 596 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of hours into his work. Um, they may have 597 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: that may have been concerning. Um they could have probably 598 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: used more dates husband wife dates. I but did you 599 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: have him with an insulin surrange and kill him because 600 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: you want more time with him? Had to be something 601 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: more than that. Tell me you now have their baby girl, Riley. 602 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: How is she dealing with the fact that her dad 603 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: is gone and her mom has been busted into murder charge. Well, 604 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 1: she does not know about that. She knows that her 605 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: mom is learning to be a better mommy right now. 606 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: She knows that her daddy is in heaven working on 607 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: cars with Jesus, because that's what she would understand. She 608 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: would be in the in the garage with her daddy. 609 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 1: You know, he would be working on the car and 610 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: and she would be right there handing him tools or 611 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, standing in a bucket of water if he's 612 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: washing the car or helping him. You know, that's just 613 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: the way they spent their time. If he wasn't taking 614 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: her to parks and what have you. But so that's 615 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: what she was able to best understand with the help 616 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: of a therapist. And so you know, she asks questions, 617 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: She asks, when can I see my daddy again? You know? 618 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: Can can people come back from from heaven? And it's difficult, 619 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: It's difficult. I mean, have you seen Nicki Cappello, for instance, 620 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: in court at any point since your brother was killed? 621 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: She has not shown up in the civil court appearances? 622 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: How old is Riley? Riley is going to be six 623 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: on August on August fifth. In the last weeks, the wife, 624 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: Marjorie Nicole, known as Nicky Cappello, has pled not guilty. 625 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: The cases it stacks up against her includes Jeff Cortesi, 626 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: the fact that she allegedly called a friend and asked 627 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: for help disposing of Jim's body. You think that friend's 628 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: not going to be state's witness number one. Boy, There's 629 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: there's a lot of evidence stacked up against her. Um. 630 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't really a question of this isn't 631 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: a who done it by any stretch. Um. You know, 632 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: between the insulin, the behavior, the asking a friend to 633 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: help with the body, by these are all very damning 634 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: pieces of evidence. Um. You know the law enforcement military careers. Uh. Similarly, 635 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: private investigators have very tough, dangerous jobs. Um, But it's 636 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: the spouses that have the most difficult job, always worrying 637 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: about the safety of their of their loved one. So 638 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: when when that spouse doesn't show the level of concern 639 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: and safety or concern for the safety of their spouse, 640 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: particularly after being reported missing. Boy, those those red flags, 641 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: they didn't spend a lot of time looking elsewhere. I 642 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: can tell you that. I gotta tell you had been 643 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: my first witness, the friend she asked, reportedly to help 644 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: dispose of the body, Jamie, are you girding yourself galvanizing 645 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: yourself for a trial? I'm ready, I have, I've I've 646 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: been ready. This is this is almost two years. We 647 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: have yet to have a trial. What are the prosecutors 648 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: tell you or your parents about it? We have a 649 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 1: date September fourteenth, that's the next um date on the books. 650 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: But I was also told that because of COVID and 651 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: whether they are or not having jury duties, I don't 652 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: know what's going on currently, if they are having them 653 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: or because of social distancing and courtrooms. This may very 654 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: well not even happen until twenty twenty one. And at 655 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: this time you are raising daughter Riley. Correct, yep, we are. 656 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: We are prepared to raiser for life. God bless you, 657 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: God bless you. Our prayers continue for not only you 658 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: and your parents, but for little Riley. We wait as 659 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: justice unfoalds. Nancy Grace crib Story signing off, goodbye friend