1 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: What the actual fuck with Blake and Justin. 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: I can't believe I haven't discussed with you guys, Blake 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Lively and Justin Baldoni. I don't even really understand what's 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: going on. Kennice Owens has retired from her career and 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: is literally focused solely. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: On talking about them at this point. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: It's like people are fixated because people have never seen 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: something like this, And I don't think people are actually 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: fixated with the two of them. I don't think it's 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: that they're fascinating creatures. I think it's the labyrinth and 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: the cobweb and the spider actually the spider web, and 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: like the tentacles and the people and the multiple lawsuits 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: and if you don't know they were in the movie, 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: it ends with us and it's about domestic violence. And 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Blake did the premiere and at the premiere was promoting 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: her personal products and it hit wrong in the mob 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: and the world of social media because she was promoting 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: cocktails and spring florals and it was a domestic violence 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: movie and she was trying to like jam all the 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: promotion into one red carpet. And I did videos saying 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: that it's like an archaic model where the representatives don't 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: understand the modern day and how to do PR in 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four versus like when these A list actors 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: used to be sort of owned by studios and just 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: pushed out there to push the product. And the PR 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: agents used to be able to control the media because 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: what used to happen, and it happens in places like 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: the Kardashians, like where Chris Jenner. If there's a bad 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: picture that comes out of someone, she can be like, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: and I think they might have invested in one of 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: the photo agencies. But she can be like, we'll give 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: you another picture if you put take that one down, 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: or we're not going to let you talk to anyone 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: from the family if you say something bad about one 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: member of the family. You know, and PR agents can say, 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm not letting you talk to this a list star 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: or holding that a list star that everyone wants to 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: hear from leverage, because then you have to talk to 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: this other person and you have to make the article 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: look like this. 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: This stuff all happens. 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: The PR used to be able to really and even 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: agents manage the machine. 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: I've literally seen PR. 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: People and agents get together to manipulate a situation like 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: a Chris humpreason it kame Kardashian like when they were 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: breaking up. That was a full hands on deck, proactive 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: preemptive strike how to like manipulate the media. And the 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: Kardashians owned the media and the media cycle and the covers, 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: and that worked. It doesn't work in twenty twenty four 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: because the mob runs the media. The TikTok Instagram universe 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: runs the main the media. Yes, they use the media 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: for like a guideline, like an article comes out in 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: people about Blake and Justin and then they go run wild, 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: but they could run wild off of just a photo 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: or a lawsuit that comes out, because they'll read the 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: lawsuit themselves. So anyway, I did a whole thing about that, 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: and that was the beginning because Blake was getting crushed 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: and Blake was beloved, Like I didn't really know anything 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: about her. I asked someone who worked closer to her, 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: who said she was very nice that I asked someone 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: who's very knowledgeable in the entertainment industry at large, and 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: they said that there's like a cool girl's click with her, 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: and I think Gigi or some of the models and 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: tailor and it's like a very like the Pretty Girls Club, 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: and it's what you would imagine in that type. 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Of a club. 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: So I heard different things, But I've thought she was 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: stop beautiful and she looks amazing at the met Gala, 70 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: and people come into my comments and say she's not 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: a lish is a minus list. I don't know, with 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: the combination of her and Ryan Reynolds and her owning 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: the Met Gala and nailing fashion and all this stuff 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: and seeming perfect and everything they said was so charming 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: and cute, like I thought they were a listen who 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: gives a shit. But it's weird how the tides can turn. 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: So she took a massive tumble after that red carpet, 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: and it's like to see someone like her who's seemingly 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: so perfect, And what's fucked up is that everybody celebrated 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: her for all that perfection and all that blondness and 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: all that high school you know, most popular girl stick whatever. 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: People slam you down for the same shit that brought 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: you up there, and it's scary, so blake lively to me, 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, and everything they said was adorable, 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: and if charming is a red flag, I don't know. 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: I just know that the two of them were so 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: charming as a couple, and everything was diffused with humor, 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: and everything was like an inside joke and how much 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: they love each other and how they're always playing jokes 91 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: on each other, and everybody was just devouring it. Okay, 92 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: so we can pretend whatever we want to pretend. People 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: were obsessed with them myself, like, they just seemed like 94 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: adorable couple one oh one. So something went sideways on 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: that movie. It ends with Us, and it seemed like 96 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: she was getting fucking crushed. He seemed like he was 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: getting crushed first, because they were separate at the premiere, 98 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: and I was at that premiere and they were separate 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: at the premiere and everything was separate at the premiere. 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: And I didn't even stay to watch the movie at 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: the premiere because the vibes were so cringy and creepy, 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: but I couldn't place it. And one of her people 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: was extremely cold to me, disproportionately sort of dismissive to me, 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 2: and it was weird. The energy was weird, the vibes 105 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: were off. I remember seeing Anna Wintry there and I 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: was like, shit, I'm gonna get canceled for leaving this premiere. 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: But we were like cordoned off to some bizarre separate 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: movie theater, and the premiere was like divided in all 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: these different theaters, which was so strange. And when I 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: walked in, I usually you go to a main theater, 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: like it's a big theater. You go to the main 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: theater to see the premiere. It felt like I was 113 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: like nobody puts baby in the corner. And when we 114 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: walked in, I saw this guy and he goes, oh, 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: you know Justin and I was like, oh, I didn't 116 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: even know who was in them. I knew Blake was 117 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: in the movie. I didn't know what the movie was about. 118 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know who was in the movie. I was 119 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: excited to go to the premiere because Blake Lively was 120 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: in the movie. I didn't even know they made movies anymore, 121 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: and so I was excited to go to the premiere 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: wear my pink dress and Blake Lively. And I walked 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: in and someone was like, you know Justin And I 124 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: didn't remember that he was on my podcast, but I 125 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: once I did remember. 126 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I remembered him being. 127 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Nice on the podcast, and this guy and I said 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: all out to justin. He was wearing purple. I went 129 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: to walk into that theater, someone was like, oh, no, 130 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: your tickets are over there, and then we ended up 131 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: in some tiny theater and no one was in there. 132 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: There were like three people in there. I'm like, so, 133 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: why don't I watch the movie fucking in my living 134 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: room in a couple of months. I don't get it, 135 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: which I actually should, but you can't leave a premiere 136 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: after the carpet without seeing the movie. The thing is 137 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: that after the Red Carpet there was an hour break 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: between the carpet and the movie, which I personally have 139 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: never seen. And it's like, seemingly so the cast can 140 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: get down the carpet, but it's not the cast of 141 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: fucking fame the movie. It's not ten thousand people, So 142 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: I don't know why it would take so long for 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: an hour. Usually it's like everybody goes sits in their 144 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: seats inside the premiere, and then the people that are 145 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: the celebrities and the cast, they're out there for like 146 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes, maybe thirty minutes, but it's never like 147 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: an hour. And you're in one of those movie theaters 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: that I has, like all the escalators and there's no 149 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: real place to hang out. There's no living room or bar. 150 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: You're in heels and you're in a lobby and you're like, 151 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing? So Danielle and I 152 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: went to go get Margarita's as one does, and walked 153 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: in the rain and my dress had a malfunction. Everything 154 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: has to be a shit show with me, and we 155 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: came back. We made the effort to come back, get 156 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: the popcorn. Go towards into the movie, saw Anna Winter 157 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: wanted to say hello to her, choked because what was 158 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: I supposed to say? Then saw Justin then was put 159 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: over to that like baby in the corner movie theater 160 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: that had no one in it, and I was like, 161 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: what are we doing? It's what the fuck out of here? 162 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: And we got the fuck out of there. And now 163 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: months later there's a massive lawsuit, one massive lawsuit. They 164 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: wished ten lawsuits about this movie. And I hear that, 165 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: like Justin saying that he was allegedly in the basement 166 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: with his friends to watch the premiere, like he was 167 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: put in one place. And then it all came together 168 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, that does seem it did seem 169 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: fucking weird. That night everything seems separate and weird. So 170 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: everyone is fixated and fascinated with this lawsuit, which has 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: entanglements and tentacles. I don't know what happened. I'm not 172 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: pretending I have no side. I'm just talking about the thing. 173 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Both parties are suffering immeasurably, so like, I don't think 174 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: that either party thought that they would go this deep 175 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: into the abyss. But I think that she brought the 176 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: New York Times article into it. This whole thing wasn't 177 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: clear from the beginning. I did a video saying I 178 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: don't understand what she's actually suing for Blake Lively's suing, 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, what is she suing for? I'm 180 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: not saying she did anything right or wrong. I didn't 181 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: know one thing. I never pretend to know something. I 182 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: don't know what exactly. It wasn't clear from the jump. 183 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have really mattered. I guess if it said so, 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: because I think that this team just thought that, like 185 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: it was the archaic model of pr where you just 186 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: get to say something, the media goes along with you 187 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: and like that's. 188 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: It, it's over. 189 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: So they said they what they said, it got out 190 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: and then there was a New York Times article and 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: it's the seaside, It's the pendulum. The New York Times 192 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: article comes out, everybody's team Blake. Everybody hates Justin. Just 193 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: like the Red Carpet, everybody hated Justin. They were separate, 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: then everybody was team Justin. 195 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: You know. 196 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: And it tracks that there have been discussions of smear 197 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: campaigns because it seems like smear campaigns. But I know 198 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: TikTok and pretty well, and TikTok and Instagram can do 199 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: a great job of that on their own. They just 200 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: need to sticks to rub together. So now this whole 201 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: New York Times article came out. I didn't vibe with 202 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: the New York Times article. And so this writer who 203 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: wrote it was a big me too. Writer was sitting 204 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: down in front of the camera talking to us like 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: kind of giving us an education on what happened and 206 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: what was in this New York Times article. But it 207 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: did seem kind of by it. It just seemed like a 208 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: story that was told to them, and they were telling 209 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: us a story that was told to them. I don't 210 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: know that they thought through that the pendulum would swing. 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you do have Blake and Ryan are a 212 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: list people friends of Taylor Swift her and got dragged 213 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: into this. I did a video on that saying, there's 214 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: no fucking way, no matter how bff they are, the 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's multi billion dollar enterprise team wants her name 216 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: anywhere near this pile of shit. There's no way that 217 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Blake Lively's team thought they would get in so deep. 218 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: So anyway, you got the New York Times, you got 219 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: the woman explained to us what the article's about. 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: And then. 221 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Literally I message this lawyer that I know from something 222 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 2: else to say, what do you think about this case? 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I have my own opinions about this case. 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: This is what I think, this is how I would 225 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: do it, just as a lawyer friend. He's like, I'm 226 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: representing Justin Baldoni, and so I know many people from 227 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Blake's team, and I know people from Justin's team. So 228 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, WHOA, what the fuck? So the pendulum swings 229 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: and now Justin's team comes out and they have their 230 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: own receipts because she had receipts, and she had texts, 231 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: and they claimed that they were partial texts, and they 232 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: have their own receipts, and they came in like a 233 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: fucking group of people in Penantplona running for the bull then, 234 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: and I think he has a billionaire that invested in 235 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: the movie who also his name, and the product is 236 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: at risk, so he's part of I guess maybe paying 237 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: the legal fees. I don't know, But I don't think 238 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Blake's team thought that he was going to go this 239 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: hard in the paint. I don't think he wanted to 240 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: go this hard in the paint. I don't think he 241 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: thought it would go this far. But I think this 242 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: is the fuck around and find out trial and now 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: each side's PR their names have been dragged into it, 244 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: and PR people are never in the headlines. They don't 245 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: want to be that's their nightmare. If they're good PR people, okay, 246 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: if they're good PR people, if they're ship PR people, 247 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: they want to be famous and then they suck anyway. 248 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: But now these people can barely represent their clients because 249 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: they have to also protect themselves. They don't have the 250 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: money of their clients, and they too are in lawsuits, 251 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: being sued for texts and different things. 252 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: It's a shit show. 253 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: And Candice Owens has their own opinion thinking that Blake 254 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: Ryan was has been controlling in past relationships has come 255 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: into this situation, took over because he sensed something between 256 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: Justin and Blake, and it's all over the place. 257 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: I just know it's a loose horse. I know it is. 258 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: I know as sure as I'm sitting at this desk 259 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: that it was botched. But I don't know that these 260 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: teams that represent these a minus. Let's just say list 261 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: celebrities know how to navigate this type of thing that 262 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: the mob is going to ultimately litigate on. And now 263 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: the problem is it's a court of law, and these 264 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: are lawyers that play in the court of law, but 265 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: they also play in the court of public opinion. They're 266 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: like famous celebrity entertainment representative lawyers, so like it's really 267 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: a line to ride. My divorce lawyers never really gave 268 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: a shit about what was going on in the press. 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: I had to navigate them that someone was asking a 270 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: question and that I was personally getting hammered. So sometimes 271 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: they'd have to answer a question, but they were only 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: focused on the trial. And ultimately the lawyers here are 273 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: primarily focused on the trial. But you can also sweat 274 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: someone by being focused on the court of public opinion 275 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: because as their famous people If it's Jane and Joe, 276 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter the court of public opinion, it's not 277 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: really affecting their livelihood. But if you're talking about Justin 278 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 2: Baldoni and Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, it's affecting their livelihood. 279 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: This is their their their. 280 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: Personal brand has actual intellectual property value. Their personal brand, 281 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: they have a cue score, you know. I remember my 282 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: divorce was trashing my personal brand while launching a talk show. 283 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Because even if it's good bed, you're right, you're wrong. 284 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: That's weeds. 285 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: If you're in the middle of a pile of shit, 286 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: you have shit on you, and no one really wants 287 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: to deal with someone who has a pile of shit 288 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: on you. It's gossip and it might not be true. 289 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: But someone said Blake wanted to go to one of 290 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: the games and Taylor would rather not have that spectacle, 291 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: even if they're best friends. 292 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: That makes sense. 293 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want my best friend if she was in 294 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: the middle of a spectacle about something that was seemingly 295 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: scandalous and had shit all over it at a game 296 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: like I don't want that to be the headline. I 297 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: would want try my boyfriend and his team to be 298 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: the headline, did they win just to have fun with 299 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: his mother? I don't want the shit in my backyard, 300 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: so I don't. There's no fucking way that they thought 301 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: this would be what it is. It's amazing that Ryan 302 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: is going and you know, performing on stage with Hugh 303 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Jackman and business as usual, and Megan and Harry have 304 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: been in ship pits and gone out and don appearances. 305 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: This is entangled. This is a web and it's insane. 306 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: So I've been talking about it a lot. It's just 307 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: it's crazy. We've never ever in entertainment history seen a 308 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: movie have this type of legal ramifications entanglements and fuck 309 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: around and find out in it. I just don't think 310 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: either person wants to be this deep. And I don't 311 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: know what they could settle for, but they really should settle, 312 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: and that means both of them. There's no way. This 313 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: is like a terrible, terrible divorce. Only people are going 314 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: to not only lose money and lawyers are going to win. 315 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: People's toxicity is going through the roof no matter what. 316 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Just it's not good. It's not good.