1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: M hey everyone, and welcome to take it happen here. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew how due Channel Andrewism and today I want 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the squatting movement. Actually, before I do that, 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm joined today by my co hosts Your Cause Andrew 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: or Garrison Davis and James Stout, and I am your producer, Sophie, 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: and I am here Andrew. Please continue, Thank you, Sophie. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the squatting movement. I'm particularly 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: how people love overcome the analities of privatizing land and 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: restricting people's access to it so they could cove a 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: life for themselves. Um in this troubling world. Now, I 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are at least passingly familiar 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: with the squatting movements. The political squatting movements where be 13 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: an anarchist, autonomous store, socialist and nature that have taken 14 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: place in Italy, the US, and most famously Denmark where 15 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: they had you know, Freetown Christiania set up. But outside 16 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: of the global North and much of the rest of 17 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: the world, squatting is just a fact of life. It 18 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: doesn't typically though sometimes it does have radical political ambitions. 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: So today I'm not going to be spending time discussing 20 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: the squatting movement in Europe or North America, but instead 21 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: discussing the millions of people in the world lack of 22 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: access to land where they can find secure shelter and 23 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: have turned to what has been deemed informal occupation or 24 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: squatting to find residents. Most specifically, I'll be discussing the Caribbean, 25 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: but first I need to get into some statistics. It's 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: always that kind of weird, right. In nifty only eighty 27 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: six cities around the world had populations of one million 28 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: people or more. In twenty sixteen, there were just over 29 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: six hundred cities that met this threshold. Over half of 30 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: the world's population now lives in urban areas, and nearly 31 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: a billion, if not a billion I asked to me 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: to be living in in fourmal settlements, mostly in the 33 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: urban and perry urban areas of less developed countries. I 34 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: don't know if any of you have read Planets of 35 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the Slums by Mike Davis. I don't think I have, 36 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: but he he discusses this phenomenon, this explosion in urbanization, 37 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: and the fact that unfortunately, you know, these cities aren't 38 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: exactly urban Eden's They are deeply impoverished, filled with makeshift 39 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and often unsafe, whether it be you know, poison us 40 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: or just poorly constructed or disease written dwell ends areas 41 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: such as their roots Quarantina, Mexico cities, Santa Cruz, Maya, Hualco, 42 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Rio DeRos Favelas and Cairo is a city of the 43 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: dead ware, up to one million people living homes made 44 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: out of actual tools. Now Davis addresses the issues root cause, 45 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: that being post colonial neoliberal policies driven by free market 46 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: catholicst principles. It is yes, cities modernized in the wake 47 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: of the colonial era, a lot of the same zone 48 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: and boundaries enforced by imperial powers across racial and soce 49 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: economic lines were continued, so quality colonization did not really 50 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: take place, and did imperial rule didn't lead to a 51 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: magical increase in equality e galitianism. It's just post colonial 52 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: rulers took up the mantel where a colonial rulers left 53 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: so and of course this switch, this changing of hands 54 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: of power was kept up by the International Monetary Fund, 55 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: which stepped in on behalf of these elites and pushed 56 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: the poorest citizens basically into thickly concentrated slums by making 57 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: it easier for the ruling class to ignore these issues 58 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: and prioritize the affluent. The depth restructure and policies and 59 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: nine s also LEDs a lot of governments cutting down 60 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: on their public health and education investment expenditure so that 61 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: they could repay the loans that they had been forced 62 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: to take out. David spent a lot of time talking 63 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: about Asia and sometime talking about the increasing hardship in 64 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: African cities. But the situation of squatting is off to 65 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: overlooked in the Caribbean, and so I'd like to draw 66 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: some attention to that. I think that anyone who has 67 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: lived in the Caribbean or as family in the Caribbean 68 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: would be somewhat familiar with the idea of family land, 69 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: which is this idea that you know, you have these 70 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: plots that the family essentially owns collectively, maybe somebody living there, 71 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: or it may just be landed as being passed along 72 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: for anyone who needs it. Um A lot of this 73 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: land was acquired by purchase, and a lot of it 74 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: was acquired by squatting. In turn, Dad in Jamaica and 75 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and Martinique and Barbadoes, squatting was how a 76 00:05:51,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: lot of recently emancipated people gained some foothold to live 77 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: now they could not stay on the plantation system. Now, 78 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: the early squatting movement was largely wiped out by the 79 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: growing plantation system um, but eventually a new squatting movement 80 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: would arise due to escaped slaves and maroons and post 81 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: indentured individuals who would resettle um on those regions that 82 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: were previously wiped out by the plantation system. When I 83 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: spend most of the focus of this episode discussing what 84 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: took place in Jamaica, because I discovered this really excellent 85 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: research paper done by Pressergene Besson. But Jamaica is really 86 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: quite an interesting example because Jamaica is one of the 87 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: few Caribbean countries that had a successful sustained maroon movements 88 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: that lasted into the twenty one century. And so what happened, 89 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: as is the case for a lot of these colonies, 90 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: is you have this sitting model of land ownership called 91 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: crown land. Basically all the land of the crown deemed 92 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: themselves to own by virtue of colonized. In these places, 93 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: crown land would often be you know, parceled out when 94 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to attract new colonists to the different colonies, 95 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: and so enslaved people in Jamaica created these squatters, settle 96 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: months on Crown land, basically recaptured that land and created 97 00:07:53,720 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: villages and communities um in as Maroons in that context 98 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: of colonial violence, and of course these governments would demolish 99 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: the squads settlements and try to effect land capture. But 100 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: in Jamaica, the Maroons succeeded, particularly the Leeward Maroons, as 101 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: they were two different groups to Winwood Maroons in the 102 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: Leewood Moroons, and that's a whole different history. Today, a 103 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Kampong village is the only survive in village for the 104 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: Jamaican Leewood Maroons, and there's also the oldest persistent Maroon 105 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: society in African America. After the slaved Africans and Creoles 106 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: escaped the plantations and squatted Crown Land, they waged successful 107 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: guerrilla warfare against the British colonists in the Foost Maroon 108 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: War and the leadership of Colonel Couju, and that land 109 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: would be the basis of two Leewood Rooon villages that 110 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: be in Coudo's Town in St. James and a kampongs 111 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Town in St. Elizabeth, a Kampong being named after couldos 112 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: brother in arms, Captain Kampong. Eventually, Couldow's Town would be 113 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: renamed Trelawny Town after the treaty between the British Governor 114 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: would grant the Moroon's their freedom and fifteen hundred acres 115 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: of legal freehold land. A Kampong Town, on on the 116 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: other hand, did not really get any legal recognition until 117 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: a land grant was given to them to some two 118 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: thousand five dcres around set a couple of decades later 119 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,119 Speaker 1: between six the Second Maroon War before between the Trelawny 120 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: Town Maroons and the British colonists. Because of course, the 121 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: British did what they would do and whipped to the 122 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Maroons for the theft of pigs in Montego Bay. Of course, 123 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: this is just the insight and incident, as these things 124 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: tend to be, for the deeper discontent regarding access to 125 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: the land, and after this Second Maroon War, the Trillony 126 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Maroons ended up being deported to Nova Scotia. So, for 127 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: those a bit familiar with you know, Canadian history, the 128 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Maroons are moved and resettled in Canada. As a result 129 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: of this and the Trintown Ruins land being confiscated, a 130 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: compunc Town became the soul surviving village, and today it 131 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: remains Common Treaty town. It is owned in common by 132 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the some I believe it's like just over three thousand adults, 133 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: all of which by the way, claimed descent from Colon Couju. 134 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: And they sort of have a mixed settlements, producing for 135 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: household use, rare and livestock, utilizing the forest for medicines 136 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: and timber um, cultivating food forests and provision grounds. And 137 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: even after that was of the commitude migrate, they would 138 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: still have that connection to their commons and often returned 139 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: to either live or visit. Sloney Town. On the other hand, 140 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: after being recaptured by the Crown, it was eventually purchased 141 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: and transformed into family lands by the descendants of slaves, lanterns, 142 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: and ruins, and of course squatting played a part in 143 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: that development. Most recently in Latin America and the Caribbean, 144 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: there has been a move by governments switching from a 145 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: policy of trying to eradicate squatters and instead trying to 146 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: give them titled their lands, either granting them or usually 147 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: selling it to them in an effort to alleviate poverty, 148 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: so they could use their house as you know, collateral 149 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: for business loans and that kind of thing. And that's 150 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: basically what happened for a compoun town and for Trelawney Town, 151 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: where the captured land was surveyed and subdivided and put 152 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: for sale, and so the squat was were able to 153 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: purchase the land and the government was able to impose 154 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: taxation on the people who lived on that land. Now 155 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: I spoke of squatting in the Caribbean lats market not 156 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: ratherically political, but there are political slash religious movements that 157 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: have used squatting to gain a foothold. For example, the 158 00:12:53,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: Revival Zion movements and offshoot of Rasterfarian movements. If I'm honestly, 159 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: couldn't find much information about them, but they're enough through 160 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Jamaican religion and slash cult and so they managed to 161 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: capture a lot of the land near Lawney Town and 162 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: would often settled their homes right behind the city councils 163 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: no squatting signs. Eventually, you know, you have about thirty 164 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: househoods who have basically recaptured their land from Babylon. As 165 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Rastafarians would describe the state um, their community, which they 166 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: called Zion, became a very vibrant squatter settlement of some 167 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: seventy house yards on about thirty acres of captured land. 168 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Eventually the land was surveyed and subdivided, of course, trying 169 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: to tax and control the people that were there. But 170 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: the situation led to a lot of people still you know, 171 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: not being able to afford the land, and still of 172 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: course having to squat on the land that they lived on. 173 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: But so long difficulty with squatted land is that it's 174 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: a very um tenuous, very fragile state of being. The 175 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: future is often unsitting and clay. It's it's more secure, 176 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: i would say, than being like homeless, but you're still 177 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: very much subject to state violence um. And even when 178 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: so called legal avenues opened up for you to get 179 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: the land, you know, through purchase, the fact that you 180 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: had to squat in the land in the first place 181 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: should be some indication that you probably can't afford to 182 00:14:52,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: buy land. But squatting enables people at least in the 183 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: interim two potentially you know, develop some funds and stuff 184 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: until they are able to secure a future for their families. 185 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the liberal solutions to the 186 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: issue of squatting and poverty is to replace these sorts 187 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: of systems and putting instead like proper private property rights 188 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: and giving these people private property so that they could 189 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: achieve sustainable development goals and all the other buzz words 190 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: that you know these programs tend to use. I think 191 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: the future of these kinds of projects, however, should be 192 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: more along the lines of commons. I think that the 193 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: fact that they were able to secure that land without 194 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: the government's approval should be an indication that the government 195 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: should not need to approve for people to live on 196 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the if you're called home. I've spoken a previous episode 197 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: about barb Uda and they are commons, and I really 198 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: don't see why. I do see why, But I really 199 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: believe the solutions these isssues lies in reclaiming the commons, 200 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: lies in rejecting these colonial and post colonial governments which 201 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: based themselves on exclusion and illegality, and bring about participatory 202 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: local management of the land by the people for the people. 203 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: And that's about it. Thanks. I do you think it 204 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: was really fascinating? Any any final thoughts? Scare James. My 205 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: final thought is that we have a live share of Wonderful. Yeah, 206 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: just thing I was thinking about as we talked about 207 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: squatting this one. 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