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Damn God. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.000 If you like don't read a lot, but you read 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.399 the Share Memoir, please read something else. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.880 Good Lord. If one Madonna Chaconi of Detroit Michigan were 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.880 to write a serious book about her career and business 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.840 development and entrepreneurialism, that sort of thing. I would think 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:36.920 that'd be a pretty good read. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.760 Oh yeah, and her understanding of pr and how to 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.080 get attention and stuff. Yeah, that would be interesting. Have 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.319 Lady Gaga rte the forward or something? 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.840 Fine? Okay, great? Wow? The Share Memoir? 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:52.280 Yes? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:53.560 Uh? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.480 I mean do you are you immortal? Do you have 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.800 unlimited time? That is the only circumstance I can picture 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.080 where somebody would would read the Share Memoir. If I'm 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.320 want if shares offspring, I wouldn't bother. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.840 If I walked into someone's apartment, then they have that 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.720 on the coffee table. How quickly can I get out 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:15.800 of their house's? 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.160 Yeah? There you go? See? Uh wait, you just got here? Yeah? 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:30.600 Bye ah. So I came across this all right, Oh yeah, pass. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.760 I just keep seeing Share in the back of my mind. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.280 So here's an editorial that actually ran in the New 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.720 York Times. I'm sixteen on November sixth, that's the day 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:46.320 after the election. The girls cried and the boys played Minecraft. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.440 And this is by a sixteen year old high school junior. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.320 Who obviously is connected to somebody in the New York Times. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.640 Your parents are some big deal. I mean, otherwise, how 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.800 would you get a an op ed in the biggest 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:00.800 new paper in the world. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.359 You know, it's I think it's labeled as a well, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.200 it's a guest essay. I don't know. Maybe it's in 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.519 a letter to the editor. But in the morning after 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.880 the election, I walked up the staircase of my school. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.440 A preteen was crying into the shoulders of her brace's 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:21.720 clad peer. Her friend was rubbing circles on her back. Uh. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.760 First of all, point of order, mister editor, why am 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.400 I reading a child's editorial? Did you say so? 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.320 The sixteen year old wrote this? But the sixteen year 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.560 old said a preteen. Yes, So a twelve year old's 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.240 crying over a presidential election. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:40.880 You're a weird kid, right, go get a hobby kid. Anyway, Again, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:47.000 at the point that she says in the headline, I'm 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.480 sixteen at we're done here, We're done. You're a child. No, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.840 if you want to tell me how things are going 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.800 at your school or something like that, and she is 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.480 in a way, okay, that's fine, because I don't know. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.880 But the idea that you're going to lay some insight 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.400 on me about the election and the candidates and all. No, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.560 we've got to who said this? 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.240 Was it? 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.040 Bill Maher? 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:13.520 Yeah? 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.920 I think it was Bill Marshall. Jesus it was one 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:24.400 of the three four. I can't Yeah, no, Oh, who's 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:29.280 a anyway? Uh? Where was I? 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:29.560 Oh? 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.280 Said, we've got to stop laying the burden on these 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.279 poor children, the idea that they need to solve this stuff, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.839 or they need to tell us what happened in the election. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.760 Why would you lay that on a sixteen year old girl? 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.760 Well, how about the poor twelve year old crying in 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.599 the hall. The only way she's crying in the hall 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:51.160 is her parents and or her teachers correct sold. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.520 Her a load of crap. But wait, there's more. I 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.680 continued up the stairs to the lounge where upperclassmen linger 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.839 before classes. There I saw two tables. One was filled 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.040 with my girlfriends, many of them with hollows under their eyes. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.880 There was a blanket of despair over the young women 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.159 in the room. I looked over to the other table 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.080 of teenage boys and saw minecraft on their computers. Well, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.760 we were gasping for breath. It seemed they were breathing freely. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.160 Oh my God, I suppose you expect to overwrought from 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:26.279 a sixteen year old girl, but uh wow, we were 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.400 gasping for breath. They were breathing freely. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.479 Oh geez, Katie, any verbal slappings or show I plunge on. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.760 I have so many questions, but yeah, I go plunge on. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.400 Get a get a trash can ready, You're gonna be 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.599 all right. We girls woke up to a country that 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.799 would rather elect a man found liable for sexual abuse 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.640 than a woman rights decision. Exactly. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:52.919 You know. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.640 In fact, I was going to vote for Commlin until 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.000 I learned that Trump was held liable. Then I thought, wait, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.760 that's the man for me again. Thank you child for 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.200 that incisive political analysis. Thank you child. Where the kind 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.520 of man my mother instructs me to cross the street 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.080 to avoid will be addressed as mister president, your mom 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.320 tells you to cross the street to avoid fat eighty 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.880 year olds. Watch for the body where the body I 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.640 haven't fully grown into may no longer be under my control. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.560 The boys, it seemed to me just woke up on 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:23.640 a Wednesday. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.760 What made my skin burn? Most normal kids? That makes 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.200 them normal? You're the crazy one, right, What made my 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.440 skin burn? Most, well, it's probably uv ras you sunscreen. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.480 Wasn't that over seventy five million people voted for Donald Trump. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.480 It was that this election didn't seem to measurably change 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.360 anything for the boys around me, whether their parents supported 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.720 mister Trump or not, many of them didn't seem. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.600 To share our rage, our fear, are despair. We don't 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:56.080 even share the same future. I'm scared the Trump administration 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.440 will take away or restrict birth control and Plan B 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.760 the way they did abortion. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.039 Why are high schoolers crying about abortion and Plan B? 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.599 Why is that the focus? Well, yeah, or presidential politics. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:13.280 As a child, that's really weird and sweetheart. Trump didn't 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:14.200 take away abortion. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.720 He sends a terrible ruling back to the States for 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.800 people to vote on. There are more abortions happening now. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.680 The one point I want to make is that this 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:29.440 young girl, who is a very good writer, unusually good 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.640 for a sixteen year old, and is a sixteen year 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:39.600 old gets the indulgence of youth. She unleashes are strongly 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.760 held opinions, and the grownups around her ought to say, Wow, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.400 that's great, I'm glad you're really into this sort of 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.400 stuff and all, and perhaps a quick word about and 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.320 the longer you live and the more you see and do, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.320 the more you'll understand some of the nuances of this stuff. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.800 I get that I spent tremendous amount of time around teenagers, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.160 teenage girls in particular, coaching and mentoring and all sorts 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.400 of stuff. But and I don't mean to be little 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:12.640 this young woman. The point is the people around her 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.560 have nurtured in her two things. Number one, what Bill 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.920 Maher is talking about, laying on her this mistaken belief 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.040 that she needs to figure this all out and tell 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.920 the rest of the world and then solve it. And 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:32.880 two not giving her any Oh, I'm sorry, and number 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:38.360 two feeding her full of the most hyperbolic of the 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.760 wildly out of control political rhetoric of the last ten 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.560 years without any perspective. Now, maybe her parents and teachers 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.680 and mentors believe all this stuff because they've whipped themselves 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.040 into the left wing you know, fury, But I don't 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.719 know so anyway, she writes on. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.880 That's one of your logical fallacies too, that I guess 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.360 have existed through history is the belief that the young 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.120 or innocent or something like that, when they say something, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.720 it carries more weight, right. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.760 Because they're pure of heart, and out of the mouths 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.520 of babes comes real wisdom. Yeah, that's once in a while, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.760 that's true. Mostly they're just kids in aught to just 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.840 go do their homework anyway. So she says that she's 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.839 afraid Trump will take away birth control the way they 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:27.600 did abortion. Again, that's ridiculous. I've seen the ways in 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.599 which many of the boys in my generation can be 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.360 different from their fathers. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:32.040 That. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.640 Wow, you have no idea how their fathers are now. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:36.400 Of course you don't. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.720 The hashtag me too movement went mainstream when they were 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:44.240 still wearing Superman pajamas. That's pretty good writing. On Tuesdays 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.200 in health class, they learn about the dangers of inebriated consent. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.800 They don't pretend to gag when a girl mentions her 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.719 period or a tampon falls out of her backpack. They 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.720 don't find sexist jokes all that funny and don't often 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.520 make them in public. No, they find them really funny, 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.160 but they find you to be a humorless prag and 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.400 so they don't make them in your presence. You just 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.800 wouldn't know it. I've heard they well, that was kind 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:12.040 of distracting and weird. I'm grateful to my school for 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.440 taking gender equality as seriously as it does trigonometry. But 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.520 most of the guys that I saw that Wednesday appeared nonchalant. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.640 A smiling student shook his friend's hand and said, sarcastically, 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.400 good election. In the same hallway where I saw a 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.000 female teacher clutching a damp tissue. Why did it seem 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.000 these boys were so unperturbed. I worried that my guy 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.640 friends might only care about women until it conflicts with other, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.280 more pressing priorities. That morning, I spoke with the male classmate. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.559 He asked if I was okay, nearly melted with relief. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.080 See I knew not all guys were ignorant. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.800 Lady, your sixteen year old. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.439 Then, before I responded, he continued why, he wondered, are 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:55.520 so many girls crying? I stared, I swallowed that familiar lump, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.440 and I had one thought. I prayed that my older 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.040 brother never asks that question. Oh my god, how could 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.439 my classmates not know why girls in his grade were 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.600 biting their nails and doing breathing exercises in the bathroom. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.319 It seemed like our future was sliding down the side 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.000 of our faces, and he asked me why we were crying. Crying. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.680 I never felt that disconnected from men. I never felt 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:15.640 more like a girl. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.600 God, if my kid were doing breathing exercises in the 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:25.079 bathroom because they were so emotionally upset from a presidential election, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.080 I'd pull them out of school and get a team 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.480 of therapists going and we go on a camping trip 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.480 or something to try to turn this around. Something's gone 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.199 horribly wrong. Well here, here's the bottom line. Once again, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.200 that is on the adults around her. That's on our 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.559 parents and the teachers. You have acbused that child. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.079 Absolutely, you have psychologically tortured that child. You have terrified 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:50.000 her into a state of awful emotional upheaval. What is 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.800 the matter with you? Abuse her? 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.960 That's one hundred percent true. That's not even just talk radio, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.440 you know hyperbole. That's one hundred percent true. If your 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.240 kid it needs breathing actually to deal with the presidential election, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:07.679 you have abused them by putting all this fear into them. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:12.480 That's just not Yeah. Yeah, the cult of we like 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.720 to be afraid. We're always afraid because it brings us together. Oh, hugmy, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.160 because we're afraid we're both afraid, let's be together because 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:24.760 we're afraid that that is an unhealthy attitude? What happened 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.640 to courage? Women are some of the most courageous people 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.600 I know? What happened to courage? Resilience, a sense of humor? 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.960 All of that is dying And to just infuse a 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.199 child with that is abusive. Damn you, you are evil, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:42.680 It really is. There's a name for that. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.320 I heard somebody bring up the other day, like if 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.280 you have bad parents, you have to be parentified or 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.560 something like that. It's a psychological thing that young people do, like, oh, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.240 if you figure out that your parents are taking care 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.360 of you, you take over that role. It's a survival instinct. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:57.720 But it's bad for you. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.440 Right, your parents are drug addicts and you end up 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.000 taking care of your younger, younger siblings and that sort 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:03.480 of thing in. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.560 Yourself, and it makes you feel more responsible throughout your 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.560 life for things. Anyway, it sounds like they've done that 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.640 to this girl, like just put her in a position 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.400 of being an adult that is not required as a 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.120 sixteen year old. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.960 Right. And there there's a tendency among certain sick people 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.520 that they really want their children, They want to put 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.800 their fears into their children. They want they're crazy, to 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.120 be fully invested in their kid, because then they've got 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.319 somebody else who's crazy like them. I don't know the 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.800 name of it, probably has a name, but anyway, you're 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:43.040 just this poor kid. This poor kid has been abused. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:14:01.800 The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.800 The big change in the election that we'll be talked 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.800 about for years and years is not just the winners 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.360 and losers, but the fact that Black American Hispanic America 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.760 moved significantly rightward. I mean, the Democrats still get the 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.120 majority of the Black vote, for instance, but it's changing, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.080 and it's changing pretty quickly. And you know, it's easy 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.960 for us and people like us to forget that most 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.760 people don't think about politics that much. I've been yelling 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.480 for Black America to reconsider this unholy alliance with the 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.720 Democratic Party, which is just exploited the black vote, assumed 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.600 the Black vote, and giving you nothing but empty promises 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.920 and government dependents for decades and decades. Now it appears 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.800 that I don't know, perhaps people are starting to connect 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.160 elections with policies with outcomes in a way that you 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.400 know is too slow for me, But I get it 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.240 and the journal with the Wall Street Journal with some 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.880 pretty interesting analysis of the fact that it's now about 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:05.280 class and not race. If you're working class, you are 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.840 swinging way towards the Republicans and it doesn't matter what, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.400 Hugh your skin is. Thank god, I'm so happy about that. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.080 And not just because it's Republican. I mean it could 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.720 be Democrats too. Let's just not have like hugely important 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.080 racial politics. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.640 In this country, please, for a number of reasons, including 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.359 I think you're much more likely to get policy discussions 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.200 if you're talking about people of different income situations than 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.040 their skin color. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.560 Well, ry make the claim of racism is so easily right. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.120 And they quote Aaron Waters, who's the first gent they 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.640 quote in this article, who's a black construction worker union 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.000 member in Chicago who voted for Trump after voting for 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.680 Biden and Obama in past elections. And he says race 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.680 is not an issue for me. It's about what you 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.200 can do for each and every one of us as 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.760 a whole, as a US citizen. Now, the reason that's important, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.520 getting back to my berating you know, quote unquote black America, 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.880 is that guys like Aaron are saying, no, you can't 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.520 say I'm down with the black folks, so vote for me. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.360 What are you gonna do? What are your policies? That's phony. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.480 He's realized it's well, it's phony. It's it's putting you 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.200 in a pen. And I've always hated that. But came 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:26.280 across a couple of interesting statistics about this, this question. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.920 And here's an associate professor of political science at the 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.960 University of South Carolina. He says, quote, this is the 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:38.000 shock of the early twenty first century, this this big move. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.360 Thirty years ago, Americans with a college degree was twenty 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.240 percent of the population. Twenty percent this thirty years ago now, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:52.120 and held the same percentage of household wealth as those 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.280 without a degree, so outsized. But it was like fifty 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.000 to fifty the wealth. So twenty percent had college degree, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.800 they had half the wealth. Now it's thirty eight percent 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:08.240 of the population has college degrees. It's almost doubled in 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.000 thirty years. Many of them useless, but anyway, and seventy 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:18.439 three percent of the household wealth. So the you know, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:23.040 other sixty two percent of the population that has twenty 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.840 seven percent of the household wealth is starting to think, Hey, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:31.879 this system isn't really set up for me, regardless of color. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:41.600 Jack Armstrong and Joey, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:51.640 Arm Strong and Getdy Show. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.159 Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:04.800 human beings are not like computerized decision makers. There are 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.399 all sorts of things that enter into economics. In particular, 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.880 as Nobel Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.360 Rachel Cranton said, I wrote years and years ago, identity 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.840 may be the most important economic decision people make, and 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.040 it has to do with how you see yourself, how 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.439 you want to project an identity, what group of people 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.920 do you consider yourself part of? And you make all 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:37.520 sorts of economic decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.360 If I had known this was part of economics when 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.760 I was in college, I could have easily made it 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.640 my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.520 it's obviously got its value supply to my own, etc. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.240 But if I'd have known all this other stuff that 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.919 I find so fascinating about economics was part of it, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.000 I would have man, I would have eaten that up. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.920 Yeah, what would you call it? Psycho go economics or 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.960 socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the example 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.320 of an academic economist, not coincidentally, that's who we're talking about. 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.560 That would be a social category, and that's the way 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.879 they would see themselves or part of that group whatever. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.720 So they probably own a practical car and wear comfortable shoes, 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:19.560 and if they showed up in a portion nine to 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.760 eleven or a pair of five hundred dollars loafers, they 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.280 would all not only feel like they were putting on airs, 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.919 but they'd probably be mocked and scorned to buy colleagues. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.440 In traditional economics models, it's hard to rationalize why anyone 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.800 would care so much about what shoes I walk in 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.400 wearing right, or what car I drive, But that really 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:47.360 affects decisions they go into. Like individual when you go. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.960 To buy a pair of shoes or a car, practically anything, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:56.600 certainly anything, anybody's going to observe. The options are not 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:02.680 wide open for most people. They're limited two your identity. 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.240 It has to shit into that world of your identity, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.480 which is interesting. We don't see ourselves that way. I 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.399 think we most people like to see themselves as no 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.560 I could wear any kind of footwear. It's completely up 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:14.679 to me. I'm my own person. 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.800 But no, it fits into a. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.200 View you heavy of yourself, where you want other people 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.000 to have of you, or you think you whatever. 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.960 And then they talk about individual gains from both material 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.160 outcomes and actions that conform to their identities blah blah blah, 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.440 and labor markets. Workers are motivated by wages, of course, 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.080 but also by how well their job aligns with their identities. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.840 They give the example of a corporate job might offer 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.160 financial stability, but if it conflicts with an individual's identity. 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.600 Is an environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.840 satisfaction and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.600 miners to be nurses may be feudal. And Jack, I 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.720 love the idea you gave when we were talking about this. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.840 If you remember, I don't you said, trying to train 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.359 farmers because the family farmers disappearing to be coders, have 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.879 them sit in a cubicle ten hours a day to code, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.080 they would hang themselves. 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.960 Yeah, and you hear politicians throw that around all the time, 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.600 like you can just retrain people that have been a 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.560 certain sort of person to be a completely different sort 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.160 of person. And as the point of what you're saying 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.480 is it's not just about the money. 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.240 So there's other research by a couple of guys you've 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.600 never heard of, to provide a granular look into the 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.719 mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:35.000 that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.280 as especially salient. Demonstrate that people may opt for lower 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.560 paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know, 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.320 fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.280 goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.560 costs and no higher quality. We see that all the 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.959 time in fashion police. So they go into that at 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.200 some length, and it's a very very interesting We'll post 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:03.440 link at Armstrong and Getty under hot links. But then 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:09.520 let's see they go more deeply into that. It diverges 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.560 from traditional notions of comparative advantage typically applied to countries 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.400 or firms. I met with several well known psychologists, writs 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:20.120 this journalist across the country. Many assume that heredity largely 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.520 dictated the identities to which people gravitated. We investigated the 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:30.720 academic paths chosen by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.000 We found that students often align their academic efforts with 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.679 what they perceived to be their comparative advantages. Interesting, and 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.160 this is something that we and others have observed through 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.159 the years, and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about. But 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.199 we all ought to grow up and just say what's 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:52.040 true and whether it makes us feel comfortable or not. 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.080 If you want to actually solve problems, you better reckon 0:22:55.119 --> 0:23:00.200 with reality. Anyway. A student who sees his strengthen social 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.760 leadership rather than academic achievement might choose to invest more 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.760 in social endeavors. This decision is based both on where 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.959 he or she excels and where he perceives the greatest 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.000 return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:17.800 social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah? In other research, who 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.240 is I? I haven't mentioned the name of the person 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.280 writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an economist and a researcher anyway, 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:28.320