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Speaker 1: All right, this is Darwin James and you listen to

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Speaker 1: the Charges Podcast network. What's up, guys, Chris Harry with

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Speaker 1: you on a new episode of Chargers Weekly. Hope everybody

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Speaker 1: is staying safe, staying at home. Today we have Joe

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Speaker 1: Person from the Athletic Carolina. Joe is one of the

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Speaker 1: best beat writers in this business. He covers the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers and he has some great insight on the newest Charger,

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner. All right, guys, A trade that we knew

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Speaker 1: was coming for a couple of weeks now official the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: They've acquired Pro Bowl guard Trey Turner from the Panthers

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Speaker 1: in exchange for another pro bowler, Russell o'con. Now joined

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Speaker 1: by Joe Person of the Athletic. Joe covers the Panthers

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Speaker 1: been covering him for a long time. Joe, what are

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Speaker 1: the Chargers getting in Trey Turner? I mean, very very

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Speaker 1: capable blocker, no doubt about it. I mean Turner, as

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Speaker 1: you said, he he is. Uh. Panthers drafted him in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He's only twenty years old. I mean he

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Speaker 1: was a young guy then he's still a young guy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, has has managed for the most part to

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Speaker 1: avoid serious injury. He's had a couple you know, stretches

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Speaker 1: whereas he's had to miss you know, three or four games.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I don't think any stretch longer

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Speaker 1: than that. So, uh, good solid player. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: not a super vocal guy. He is, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he kind of leaves in his own way. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know who whole man down, Uh, you know, whole

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Speaker 1: lockdown that that I'm assuming right guard, that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: been his position for when he was with the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: and and lock it down pretty well. Joe. It's funny

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Speaker 1: because I asked about leadership, right twenty six years old,

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Speaker 1: you go to five straight Pro Bowls, you've played in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl already, and he said, exactly what you said.

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Speaker 1: He echoed, and he said, uh, I firmly believe you

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Speaker 1: by actions first. So he says he's going to do

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Speaker 1: his leading by example. And I tell you, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of young guys across this offensive line. Trays the

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Speaker 1: type of player he's got the accolades already, that that's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, look, he came from

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Speaker 1: a very successful college program at LSU. He stepped right

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Speaker 1: round pick at the time. And it was the same

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Speaker 1: year that the Panthers had picked up Andrew Norwell as

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Speaker 1: a as an undrafted free agent, and those two were

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Speaker 1: kind of frick and frack. Norwell was the left guard.

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Speaker 1: Both of them kind of ended up starting as rookies.

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Speaker 1: Turner was was you know, much more highly drafted and

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Speaker 1: sought after. And then Norwell Norwell went and got they

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Speaker 1: by the by the Jaguars a couple few years ago,

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Speaker 1: and then of course the Panthers extended Trey Turner. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a little surprising to see the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of part ways with them. The only

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Speaker 1: And you had the Panthers hired Matt Rule. He brought

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Speaker 1: in his whole, you know, whole new coaching staff, obviously,

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Speaker 1: including offense coordinator Joe Brady. As you know, he hired

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Speaker 1: the Chargers former offensive line coach Pat Meyer, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't know why certain things. You know,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they didn't feel like either two things.

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Speaker 1: Either they didn't feel like Trey was necessarily a good

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Speaker 1: more to the point is they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: issues the Panthers did under Ron Rivera's last year in

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Speaker 1: terms of that left tackle position. They were using a

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Speaker 1: it's harder to find those guys than it is a

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Speaker 1: right guard. But certainly Trey Turner did Yeoman's work here,

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Speaker 1: you know, for his whole career. And we should say

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Speaker 1: as well. In a Pro Bowl left tackle, it's not

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Speaker 1: like to get a player of Trey's quality, you got

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Speaker 1: to give up something. And Russell been a mainstay on

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Speaker 1: Was that twenty fifteen year kind of the year that

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Speaker 1: had a good fortune. And I think this is worth

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Speaker 1: pointing out too, of stepping into a situation where he

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, those two were a good

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Speaker 1: it's funny you were talking about twenty fifteen something an

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Speaker 1: anecdote I remember from the following season two thousand and sixteen,

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Speaker 1: which was a miserable year for the Panthers. But if

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Speaker 1: I think this is an anecdote worth telling Charger fans.

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Speaker 1: So the Panthers are up in there, they're practicing at

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Speaker 1: turned to Trey Turner. They you know, they were running

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Speaker 1: remember vividly interviewing him out on the San Jose, San

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Speaker 1: anyone who has not done that, you know or anyone

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Speaker 1: was certainly indicative of that. That's a great addecdote. No

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Speaker 1: a similar guy here in Austin. Ekeler and I asked

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Speaker 1: like Tyrod Taylor is the leader in the clubhouse there.

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Speaker 1: He said he's heard a lot of good things about Tyrod,

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Speaker 1: so Trey's no stranger to play with explosive weapons. As

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've covered this, this Panther's offense and how

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Speaker 1: a big point of emphasis for Marty Herney here and

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Speaker 1: and that will continue this year with with with o'coon.

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Speaker 1: But all through that, one of the staples certainly was

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Speaker 1: after a guy like Russell Koon. You mentioned the left

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Speaker 1: Chargers are really excited to bring him into the fold. Joe,

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Speaker 1: with free agency. Get you out here on this, just

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Speaker 1: the Panthers trying to trade him and move on from Cam.

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Speaker 1: about free agency, but I tell you it's people like you, Joe.

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Speaker 1: You're one of the best beat writers in this business. Um,

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Speaker 1: people do need a diversion sometimes, and uh, it's people

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Speaker 1: of trays like best New Orleans story. He is a

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Speaker 1: some good recommendation. You know, I think there's a Charger's

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Speaker 1: to get in front of that with ty. Awesome. Awesome, Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on, Joe, you're the man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All Right, take care buddy. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. A big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Joe for joining me. Thanks to you guys for listening,

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Speaker 1: Stay home, stay safe, and until next time, I'm Chris

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