Speaker 1: At five am. My two sons who are on the
Speaker 1: phone to me and said, get out, get out. We
Speaker 1: are afraid he is going to kill you. This is
Speaker 1: a huge secret. He is not going to want anyone
Speaker 1: to know. You are in danger. Don't take anything, just
Speaker 1: get out.
Speaker 2: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, a show about
Speaker 2: the people we trust the most and the deceptions that
Speaker 2: change everything. This is part two of Stephanie's story. If
Speaker 2: you haven't heard part one, you should go back and
Speaker 2: listen to that first. Stephanie had been living a suburban
Speaker 2: dream life with her husband of twenty two years.
Speaker 3: We're calling him Greg, but that's not his real name.
Speaker 2: The couple successfully raised six children, they built a business together,
Speaker 2: and were looking forward to their next chapter, retirement. But
Speaker 2: everything changed the day he found photos of her own.
Speaker 3: Nude body on his computer.
Speaker 2: Disgusting, violating photos, photos that made her suspect her husband
Speaker 2: had been secretly drugging her for years. In a flat,
Speaker 2: unapologetic tone, he told her how he used the photos.
Speaker 1: He explained, he puts the picture up in a chat room,
Speaker 1: and twenty five people at a time can be in
Speaker 1: the chatroom, but people come and go as they come
Speaker 1: in and out. These other men are then explaining what
Speaker 1: they would do to me, how they would rape me.
Speaker 2: Remember the caption that was under the photo of Stephanie, Well,
Speaker 2: that was one of many, and they were written by
Speaker 2: other men in the chat room with Greg. He confessed
Speaker 2: to all of it. He actually encouraged the strangers on
Speaker 2: the Internet to make violent comments about Stephanie in order
Speaker 2: to fulfill his own fantasies.
Speaker 1: This is a man that whenever we would go somewhere
Speaker 1: in public, he would pull me in close and whisper
Speaker 1: in my ear, you're the most beautiful woman here. He
Speaker 1: was just sweet and kind and gentle and a sick pervert.
Speaker 2: When she found that very first nude picture of her
Speaker 2: on her husband's phone back in twenty sixteen, he got
Speaker 2: on his knees and wept. He begged for her forgiveness,
Speaker 2: and back then she forgave him. She believed him when
Speaker 2: he said it was just a few pictures, just that
Speaker 2: one time.
Speaker 1: When I first found the pictures, it was August twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: and it was September when I forgave him. When I
Speaker 1: found the Flicker account in twenty twenty one, it says
Speaker 1: right across the top of it. He has been a
Speaker 1: member since September of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: All these years where she thought they were rebuilding trust,
Speaker 2: he was living a double life.
Speaker 1: So it was Sunday the eleventh when I found out
Speaker 1: Monday morning, I've barricaded myself into the spare bedroom and
Speaker 1: he knocks on the door and he's like, what time
Speaker 1: are you coming into work? And I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: coming into work today and I'm probably not ever coming again.
Speaker 1: He just wanted to go on like everything was fine.
Speaker 1: Part Way through that day, he contacts me and he
Speaker 1: says he's gotten hold of this Christian counselor that he knows.
Speaker 1: And I knew a little bit about this guy Gregan.
Speaker 1: His first wife had done marriage counseling with this same guy.
Speaker 1: So he tells me they've gotten a hold of this
Speaker 1: Christian counselor and that this guy is willing to drop
Speaker 1: everything and come over to our house and counsel with
Speaker 1: us that night. Would I agree to that?
Speaker 2: Stephanie knew her beliefs didn't align with this particular counselors,
Speaker 2: but she was lost, her marriage, her life. It was
Speaker 2: all unraveling. Perhaps meeting with the counselor would provide direction,
Speaker 2: so she reluctantly agreed.
Speaker 1: This guy came over and explained to me that it
Speaker 1: was really my duty as a wife to not only
Speaker 1: forgive him, but to help him overcome his problem. At
Speaker 1: one point, he looked at him and said, you had
Speaker 1: these same issues with your first wife, and you never
Speaker 1: addressed him, and that's why you're here. Twenty five years later.
Speaker 2: Greg wouldn't explain what happened with his first wife, but
Speaker 2: Stephanie had heard enough to know that she wasn't the first.
Speaker 2: Greg had done something like this in his last marriage,
Speaker 2: and then he did it again with her.
Speaker 1: I had not a clue, not a clue. I knew
Speaker 1: I couldn't stay. This is not someone who's fixable. This
Speaker 1: behavior has in some way been going on for thirty years.
Speaker 2: The revelation that Greg had done this in his first
Speaker 2: marriage showed Stephanie the depths of his deception.
Speaker 1: It made me feel like he had been conning me
Speaker 1: from day one, that the love that was so real
Speaker 1: for me was always just a game for him.
Speaker 3: So she turned to her sons.
Speaker 1: I found out on the eleventh, and on the thirteenth,
Speaker 1: I emailed my children and told them all of them
Speaker 1: as a group what he had done. At five o'clock
Speaker 1: the next morning, my two sons, who were on the
Speaker 1: phone to me and said, get out, get out. We
Speaker 1: are afraid he is going to kill you. This is
Speaker 1: a huge secret. He is not going to want anyone
Speaker 1: to know. You are in danger. Get out, don't take anything,
Speaker 1: just get out right now. Mom. I had three friends
Speaker 1: that I had been texting with since I found out,
Speaker 1: and they also wanted me out and felt that I
Speaker 1: was in danger of being killed. It definitely could have
Speaker 1: been possible, and then nobody would know. You know, once
Speaker 1: you've crossed the line to the point where you're drugging someone,
Speaker 1: the line seems pretty pretty gray. So when I left,
Speaker 1: I left with a double bag with a few clothing items,
Speaker 1: my cat, and his laptop, and I ran for my life.
Speaker 2: Her sons picked her up that day and she never
Speaker 2: went back home. She ended up living with her kids
Speaker 2: for the next few months as she reeled from the trauma.
Speaker 1: I couldn't think. I couldn't function. I mean, the kids
Speaker 1: had to like sit me down at the table and
Speaker 1: force me to eat, and I just laid in bed
Speaker 1: and cried on the I didn't just lose my husband.
Speaker 1: I lost my job, I lost my home, I lost
Speaker 1: my community, I lost trust, I lost safety. I really
Speaker 1: had to start over from square one.
Speaker 2: That process of starting over felt insurmountable. Stephanie was a
Speaker 2: shell of herself. She had been violated by her own husband.
Speaker 3: Could there be recourse? Legal recourse?
Speaker 1: All the research that I've done says getting a conviction
Speaker 1: against a husband for something he's done to a wife
Speaker 1: probably not going to happen. And then there was this
Speaker 1: we are in a really tiny town and Greg has
Speaker 1: lived there since he was two years old. There's not
Speaker 1: a soul in that town does not know him. He
Speaker 1: is connected to every single person there.
Speaker 2: In the where Stephanie and her husband lived, there was
Speaker 2: not a paid police commissioner, but instead a volunteer police
Speaker 2: commission made up of three people who are responsible for
Speaker 2: the hiring, firing, disciplining, and the promotion of every officer
Speaker 2: on the police force. Her husband had been on the
Speaker 2: commission for years. Every single officer on the force owed
Speaker 2: their job to Greg. So Stephanie was fearful of going
Speaker 2: to the police.
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't ready to go to the police
Speaker 1: at that point. That I was just in too much
Speaker 1: terror and shock, and not to mention up until twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: it was legal in my state to rape your wife.
Speaker 2: Understandably, Stephanie didn't trust the courts to be able to
Speaker 2: bring her justice.
Speaker 3: She talked off the.
Speaker 2: Record with the chief of police and the county attorney.
Speaker 2: They were hesitant. They told her idding a conviction would
Speaker 2: be unlikely. Even if Stephanie wanted to pursue criminal charges,
Speaker 2: she was in a financial bind.
Speaker 1: This was financially devastating. We lived on a lovely six
Speaker 1: figure income and had our house paid for. So I
Speaker 1: have to weigh out if I prosecute him, He's probably
Speaker 1: going to do little to no jail time. He's going
Speaker 1: to lose his license, and then I lose my support,
Speaker 1: and I'm not in a position to support myself at
Speaker 1: fifty four years old. I had to completely start over.
Speaker 1: I will never be financially able to own a home again.
Speaker 1: That was another grieving process in and of itself.
Speaker 2: And it was also another betray a financial one. Stephanie
Speaker 2: had spent years working hard to turn Greg's business around,
Speaker 2: making it profitable, and now she was left without a job.
Speaker 3: Just like that. Her vision of the future vanished.
Speaker 2: So many unknowns, But what Stephanie did know is that
Speaker 2: she needed her husband to be able to financially support
Speaker 2: her through the crisis he had caused.
Speaker 3: So for that reason, she decided to move forward with
Speaker 3: a divorce, but not with criminal charges.
Speaker 2: Instead, she decided to do an investigation of her own.
Speaker 2: When she left Greg, she took his laptop with her
Speaker 2: and she brought it straight to a computer forensic specialist.
Speaker 1: I told the investigator, I know you're not going to
Speaker 1: find the photos on here. The photos were on the
Speaker 1: Flicker account, so that's not what you're going to find.
Speaker 1: But I want to know where he was, what he
Speaker 1: was doing all of that, And the main thing I'm
Speaker 1: looking for is any evidence that he drugged me because
Speaker 1: I didn't agree to take those pictures and he went
Speaker 1: to work. When I got the report back, they called
Speaker 1: me to kind of go over it with me, and
Speaker 1: they said, we found it. There's about two years worth
Speaker 1: of every single click he made on that computer, and
Speaker 1: the computer forensic specialist found evidence that he had searched
Speaker 1: for state rape drugs.
Speaker 2: When she started putting the pieces together, Deephanie remembered, can
Speaker 2: kun all those difficult mons? Where she felt like she
Speaker 2: was waking up at the bottom of a lake.
Speaker 1: Waking up shouldn't feel like that. Waking up doesn't normally
Speaker 1: feel like it's a struggle to get to the light,
Speaker 1: like it's a struggle to try to wake up.
Speaker 2: And Greg had even been there, explaining that she'd probably
Speaker 2: just had too much wine, that she sat in the
Speaker 2: sun for too long. Worst of all, she suspected that
Speaker 2: those long romantic dinners left her vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Throughout the course of this two and a half hour dinner,
Speaker 1: I would need to get up and go to the
Speaker 1: ladies room, giving him an opportunity to be there with
Speaker 1: my drink and put something in it. So nothing really original.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's how most guys do it.
Speaker 2: Stephanie is finding out that the man she built a
Speaker 2: life with drugged her to take nude photos of her,
Speaker 2: all while she's coming to terms.
Speaker 3: But the reality that he might never.
Speaker 2: Face any legal consequences for these crimes. All of this
Speaker 2: was taking a heavy toll on her.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go to the doctor for your
Speaker 1: physical and they give you this little quiz about your
Speaker 1: mental health and depression and things like that. I had
Speaker 1: a sworn statement from my doctor of many years, saying
Speaker 1: that year after year, my score was zero. I was like,
Speaker 1: I got no stress, nothing. I couldn't be happier after
Speaker 1: this happened. Forty five is the most you can score.
Speaker 1: I was forty three, super high risk.
Speaker 2: She started walking through the world differently emotionally and physically.
Speaker 1: It have changed my appearance. I had longish hair and
Speaker 1: I wore very feminine clothing. In the days following finding out,
Speaker 1: I cut off all my hair and I continue to
Speaker 1: wear my hair short and I wear very plain, baggy,
Speaker 1: nondescript clothing.
Speaker 2: She found a therapist and she started seeing them twice
Speaker 2: a week, but especially in the beginning, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 3: She was desperate for more.
Speaker 1: Support when I first left him. Within the first few weeks,
Speaker 1: I reached out to a mental health.
Speaker 2: Suicide She relied on all the resources available. One day,
Speaker 2: about a year after she found the photos, it all
Speaker 2: became too much for her to handle. And as a forewarning,
Speaker 2: we're about to discuss suicide.
Speaker 1: On that particular day, we had divorce mediation. We had
Speaker 1: had a previous mediation where we divided out our assets.
Speaker 1: Our twenty five years of marriage was put on a
Speaker 1: balance sheet and you each get half. This was actually
Speaker 1: now the third mediation and it was on Zoom, and
Speaker 1: I was very frustrated with my attorney. I kept saying
Speaker 1: to her, I need him to support me. I can't
Speaker 1: even function. I can't get a job, I can't go
Speaker 1: out in public. I can't function. He has to support me.
Speaker 1: He did this. She just kept telling me things like,
Speaker 1: you know what he did to you just doesn't matter
Speaker 1: in divorce law. Well it does because I can't work.
Speaker 1: So we had this mediation and the mediator was just
Speaker 1: very dismissive with me. By the time that we had
Speaker 1: done our four hours of mediation, I sobbed for a
Speaker 1: while and realized, I'm done. There's no out of this situation.
Speaker 1: There's no future, there's no hope. He wins. I'm done.
Speaker 1: I had been prescribed at a van for panic attacks
Speaker 1: because if I tried to go out in public, I
Speaker 1: would have a panic attack. So I took a handful
Speaker 1: of ada Van and washed it down with a bottle
Speaker 1: of wine, and I broke the wine glass, shattered it,
Speaker 1: and then used the glass shards to cut my wrist open.
Speaker 3: Thankfully, she survived.
Speaker 2: Her sons found her and brought her to the hospital
Speaker 2: where she recovered again.
Speaker 3: She leaned on them for help.
Speaker 1: After the suicide attempt. I got out of the hospital,
Speaker 1: I had to go back and stay with my kids
Speaker 1: again for a while. And my attorney just keep saying,
Speaker 1: you don't have any rights here. What he did doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Her sons were fed up.
Speaker 1: They're like, let's find a new attorney. I got a
Speaker 1: fantastic guy who worked his ass off for me. The
Speaker 1: new attorney was like, oh, hell yeah, it matters. He
Speaker 1: damaged your mental health. Of course that matters, and we'll
Speaker 1: make the judge see it.
Speaker 2: Finally, two years after Stephanie found the photo, her divorce
Speaker 2: trial began.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else who at a situation so
Speaker 1: contentious that they had to go to trial for their divorce.
Speaker 1: We had a two day trial. Him being held accountable
Speaker 1: for what he did did more for my mental health
Speaker 1: than all the therapy and support groups. And I mean,
Speaker 1: all of those things have been great, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to discount those in any way, but having him
Speaker 1: held accountable gave me back my power.
Speaker 3: She rose to the occasion. Stephanie wanted to be there
Speaker 3: to testify herself.
Speaker 1: I did the bulk of the testifying as to not
Speaker 1: only what he did to me, but also to our finances,
Speaker 1: because he would not provide any financial information and just
Speaker 1: kept saying that his computer crashed, didn't have any records,
Speaker 1: can't provide anything.
Speaker 3: The judge didn't buy it.
Speaker 1: The judge said, there's a legal thing called a negative inference.
Speaker 3: If you failed to provide what they.
Speaker 1: Are asking for, or you choose not to answer the question,
Speaker 1: you take the fifth, which he also did on his testimony.
Speaker 1: He took the fifth about what he did to me.
Speaker 1: It was all considered a negative inference because then the
Speaker 1: judge says, clearly, you're keeping this information because it will
Speaker 1: look bad for you.
Speaker 2: There was some vindication, and that came from hearing expert
Speaker 2: witnesses confirm what you already knew.
Speaker 1: The computer forensic specialist, his testimony was incredibly damning. He
Speaker 1: testified that there is one hundred percent absolute certainty the
Speaker 1: person who posted these pictures on the internet is my husband.
Speaker 1: He couldn't, you know, back out of it and say, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. She did making this up.
Speaker 2: After the trial ended, the judge took ninety days to
Speaker 2: give his ruling. Waiting for that ruling was the longest
Speaker 2: summer of Stephanie's life.
Speaker 1: The judge's ruling says, he finds that it is a
Speaker 1: fact that Greg drugged me, took pictures of me without
Speaker 1: my knowledge or consent, posted them on the internet, shared
Speaker 1: them with other people, and as a result of that,
Speaker 1: I was traumatized by those events. And because of the
Speaker 1: trauma and the distress and the difficulty of me being
Speaker 1: in public, it's not possible for me to work in
Speaker 1: a full time way. And as such he has to
Speaker 1: pay me x amount per month, which is a pittance
Speaker 1: compared to the amount that we lived on. However, it's
Speaker 1: more than double what he was ever willing to pay
Speaker 1: me in mediation.
Speaker 2: Stephanie felt victorious even just hearing the judge confirm that, yes,
Speaker 2: this really happened. It is a fact that this happened
Speaker 2: to her. Originally, Stephanie thought she had deleted all the photos,
Speaker 2: but through her investigation, Stephanie found multiple accounts even more
Speaker 2: photos of her photos that were still live. Even though
Speaker 2: their case was settled, a divorce trial has limits.
Speaker 3: The judge couldn't order Greg to take down the photos.
Speaker 2: Asking him to do that would prove on the record
Speaker 2: that he owned the account and would incriminate him.
Speaker 1: The photos are still there. One remaining photo that I
Speaker 1: know of is a picture of me in a bathtub.
Speaker 1: He printed out the picture at some point and masturbated
Speaker 1: on it, and then took a picture of that and
Speaker 1: reposted it. The link is live. I can go look
Speaker 1: at him right now.
Speaker 2: Even if Greg took down the photos that are still
Speaker 2: live on his accounts, it wouldn't completely erase them.
Speaker 1: They're still out there because he gave them to other
Speaker 1: people and he posted them on other sites. They're eternal,
Speaker 1: they're forever.
Speaker 2: Since the divorce, there haven't been any charges brought against Greg,
Speaker 2: but he's had to face very real consequences with his family.
Speaker 1: My four boys have no relationship with him at all anymore.
Speaker 1: At one point, he sent letters to each one of
Speaker 1: them asking for forgiveness. Three of the four boys threw
Speaker 1: the letters away immediately, and one replied basically saying, there
Speaker 1: is no forgiveness for you. You're a monster. Don't ever
Speaker 1: contact me again.
Speaker 2: The news about what Greg did to Stephanie spread like
Speaker 2: wildfire in their small community.
Speaker 1: When a well known prominent couple in the community, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the wife disappears and now this is
Speaker 1: the second wife of his that's disappeared. Everybody knows.
Speaker 3: It's had a big impact on his reputation.
Speaker 1: On the stand, he testified that since I left, his
Speaker 1: business has been hemorrhaging. People call every day and ask
Speaker 1: for their files to be sent to another doctor. I
Speaker 1: wonder why.
Speaker 2: And that divorce decree from the judge, the one where
Speaker 2: he finds Greg drug Stephanie took nude photos of her,
Speaker 2: posted them on the internet and caused her great emotional harm.
Speaker 2: That decree has been passed around the whole town.
Speaker 1: Divorce decrees our public information. Anyone can download a copy,
Speaker 1: so I heard a rumor that someone did just that
Speaker 1: and then mailed out the copies to Greg's few remaining friends.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I was surprised that he didn't move
Speaker 2: somewhere else. But Stephanie has a theory about why he stays.
Speaker 1: In his twisted mind. He's such a big fish in
Speaker 1: that tiny little pond that he can't imagine going anywhere else.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't know what a big deal he is.
Speaker 2: Part of Stephanie's healing process was trying to understand the why,
Speaker 2: why did this happen to her? And why do people
Speaker 2: like her ex husband do what they do.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with doctor Omar Minwala? Have you heard
Speaker 1: of him?
Speaker 2: Doctor Minwala is a clinical sexologist and licensed psychologist. He's
Speaker 2: the founder of the Institute for Sexual Health. His work
Speaker 2: focuses on infidelity, compulsive sexual behavior, and sex addiction. Stephanie's
Speaker 2: been reading his work and it's helping her make sense
Speaker 2: of what happened.
Speaker 1: With guys that do this kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: people say, oh, what happened to you when you were
Speaker 1: a child. You must have had trauma that made you
Speaker 1: do this. He had an ideal childhood, and many of
Speaker 1: my friends in the betrayal community would say the same
Speaker 1: thing about their cheating, lying spouses. So doctor Minoawa's premise
Speaker 1: is that this is an act of entitlement. These men
Speaker 1: do this because they believe that they deserve to have
Speaker 1: whatever they want in life, including sexually. He calls this
Speaker 1: secret life online a secret sexual basement. These men build
Speaker 1: this secret sexual basement underneath their family and their marriage
Speaker 1: and their home, and part of the high for them
Speaker 1: is the secret that they're getting by with it.
Speaker 2: She's found community with other people who've experienced traumatic deception
Speaker 2: but in most of the betrayal stories she's heard, there's
Speaker 2: physical cheating. As far as Stephanie knows, Greg was never
Speaker 2: cheating with another woman.
Speaker 1: He did all of this, blew up our life, our kids' lives,
Speaker 1: our friends' lives, our community. He did all of that
Speaker 1: to jack off into his own hand.
Speaker 2: Stephanie is trying to re enter a new world, a
Speaker 2: world where people are not who they appear to be,
Speaker 2: a world where anyone she meets could have been one
Speaker 2: of those anonymous users in a chat room with her husband.
Speaker 1: You know, every guy that looks at me. I think
Speaker 1: you see those pictures.
Speaker 2: Slowly but surely, she's putting her life back together. It's
Speaker 2: a never ending task figuring out how to rebuild a
Speaker 2: sense of safety after a portrayal of this magnitude.
Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. I move around in the world a
Speaker 1: little bit better. I am happy more often than not.
Speaker 1: I rarely cry. I mean, for almost two years there
Speaker 1: it was just man, I needed stock in the tissue
Speaker 1: company because it was just endless. I had no idea
Speaker 1: it was physically possible to cry that much. But I
Speaker 1: can finally see that I'm okay. I'm proud of myself
Speaker 1: that I lived through this.
Speaker 4: I still have plenty of challenging moments and not good days,
Speaker 4: and I work hard to find joy in my life,
Speaker 4: and when I find it, I try to really lean
Speaker 4: in and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Stephanie is focusing on the new things that bring her joy,
Speaker 2: like her rescue dog.
Speaker 1: Being able to take my dog with me when I
Speaker 1: go places really gives me a feeling of safety.
Speaker 2: And she loves watching true crime documentaries.
Speaker 1: And to me, now, a rom com is a horror movie.
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch that if you paid me.
Speaker 2: Stephanie found work as a nanny. It's a job she
Speaker 2: loves and it allows her to stay out of the public.
Speaker 1: The nanny job comes with benefits package that is giggles, hugs,
Speaker 1: and some pretty terrific drawings for my fridge.
Speaker 2: She even has an appointment to get her first tattoo,
Speaker 2: a sunflower.
Speaker 1: You know a sunflower as that round part in the
Speaker 1: center and that it has all those pedals that go
Speaker 1: around it, and they're individual, but they're like on top
Speaker 1: of each other, like a network that is just like
Speaker 1: all of my people, my kids, all my friends, my
Speaker 1: extended family, my attorney, my therapists, and all the beautiful
Speaker 1: betrayed wives that I've connected with on this journey. They're
Speaker 1: like those petals. They encircle me with their support and
Speaker 1: their kindness and their love, and the tattoo is going
Speaker 1: to be a reminder of how grateful I am for
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 2: I'm always curious about what compels people to reach out
Speaker 2: to come on our podcast and talk about the traumatic
Speaker 2: betrayals they've experienced, So at the end of each story,
Speaker 2: I want every guest to share their why.
Speaker 3: Here's Stephanie's.
Speaker 1: From the very moment that I found the pictures, I
Speaker 1: knew that I was not willing to keep it a secret.
Speaker 1: Secrets perpetuate abuse. I think it's important to get these
Speaker 1: abusive things out in the open and to talk about
Speaker 1: them so that other people who are going through it
Speaker 1: don't feel as isolated and alone as I did when
Speaker 1: it happened to me. Every day when I do yoga,
Speaker 1: I have a mantra that I will stand in my truth.
Speaker 1: This is my truth. Since the trial, though, that changed,
Speaker 1: having that legal document that says he did that. Now
Speaker 1: when I do yoga, I say I am standing in
Speaker 1: the truth. Like it or not, I'm going to put
Speaker 1: it out there.
Speaker 2: On the next episode of Betrayal, a woman's happy marriage
Speaker 2: takes a terrifying turn when she finds out her husband
Speaker 2: is a hitman for the cartel.
Speaker 1: Our bedroom door gets busted down. Police are pointing guns
Speaker 1: at both me and him, telling us put our hands up.
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