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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to One Day's Live. Hope to

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Speaker 2: happen a wonderful Thursday afternoon. Mattie glab here joined by

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Speaker 2: NFL analyst Chris Trepasso as we're filling in for Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown and Steve Tasker here for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: A lot happening in the near future here at One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Drive and beyond as the combine begins next week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of action will happen in Indianapolis that week

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Speaker 2: as prospects begin to meet with NFL teams and they

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Speaker 2: talk to media. We'll hear from gms and head coaches

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady and Brandon Bean are set to talk to

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Speaker 2: the media as well, So we'll have lots of content

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Speaker 2: come in your way starting next week and follow on

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills dot com. And we'll also make sure we

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Speaker 2: have some podcasts going out as well, because that draft

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Speaker 2: talk is about to take off. That's why I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that we have Chris Trapasso here in this seat today

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Speaker 2: because we're going to get to some draft talk and more.

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Speaker 2: As you have already started to study lots of names

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Speaker 2: surrounding the twenty twenty six NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: I have I've already nerded out. I just looked before

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Speaker 3: the show. I'm eighty eight evaluation and I want to

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Speaker 3: get to my usual over two hundred players just so

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Speaker 3: coming on this show, radio spots, videos, articles of my

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Speaker 3: own that I can actually have an educated answer for

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Speaker 3: a lot of these questions.

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Speaker 4: And really, this is the calm before the storm.

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Speaker 3: It is from like next week for the next two

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Speaker 3: months until the end of April, it will be NonStop

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Speaker 3: news from combine reaction watching all those players run and

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Speaker 3: jump in Indianapolis. Then you get right into free agency,

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Speaker 3: then you're back to the draft, and then the draft actually

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Speaker 3: happens late in April. So it's actually, even though it

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Speaker 3: feels like there's not a lot going on post Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: this is the last week of I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say boredom, but a lack of news. After this, for

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Speaker 3: the next six weeks or maybe even two months, a

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Speaker 3: lot will be happening with the NFL.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people here are taking quick vacations before

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Speaker 2: it all begins next week. Because the NFL scouting combine

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Speaker 2: basically bleeds into the start of free agency. You got

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Speaker 2: a lot of combine talk, and then you blink and

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Speaker 2: March eleventh is here when free agency begins, and then

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Speaker 2: that rolls right into the NFL Draft, and players report

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Speaker 2: earlier because the Bills have a new head coach and

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady, so players can report back for workouts in

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Speaker 2: April in the beginning of April. April sixth, I want

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Speaker 2: to say, is that date? But Chris, we're talking about

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Speaker 2: everything that's going to be going on in the future.

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Speaker 2: But what have you been up to lately?

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Speaker 3: So outside of watching eighty eight prospects, which is a

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Speaker 3: lot there. Yeah, Like I'm not saying that I've been

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Speaker 3: hunkered down in my office only watching film. I've been

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Speaker 3: doing a couple of videos at Cover one, just some

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Speaker 3: free agent but mostly draft stuff. I'll be doing that

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Speaker 3: any radio spots as well. So I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: stay in the game. And this is I don't want

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Speaker 3: to say this is my favorite time of the year,

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Speaker 3: because I do love like when the games are here,

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Speaker 3: like when it's September, you know, coming off golf season

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Speaker 3: I love that it's not a light switch where you

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Speaker 3: and that's it. The NFL draft to me and staying

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Speaker 3: plugged in to an entire draft class helps me understand

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Speaker 3: the entire league and know the entire crop of players.

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Speaker 3: So when you get to free agency four years later,

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Speaker 3: you remember what you thought of Alec Pierce or what

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Speaker 4: Entire NFL, not just the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, I feel like I know the Bills the best,

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Speaker 3: but knowing these strengths and weaknesses and where players need

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Speaker 4: It's a really fun time for me.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's good also, like you just did to

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Speaker 2: It is a full speed ahead journey. I just got

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Speaker 2: It was my second time in Montreal and it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I started taking French in first grade, so I've taken

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Speaker 2: But I do still randomly have dreams in French dreaming

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Speaker 2: Bernie Begnier? And the donuts were incredible, So if you

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Speaker 2: weren't in Montreal, you should go there. Nobody recognized me.

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Speaker 3: So when you were there, let me ask you, are

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Speaker 4: At the ski resort or are you like not confident enough.

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Speaker 4: English there too. I mean, I know it's like French people, Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Can flip to English very quickly. So I hope that people,

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Speaker 3: It was really ironic because just the other day I

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Speaker 3: My sister's kids go to Elmwood Franklin School in Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: We went on Tuesday, it was like forty degrees and

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Speaker 2: In the area, and it's a cheat code being over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little icy when we were there

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was a little scary, but it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was my first time there and Mount Tremblant the

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Speaker 2: I was excited. We're not gonna have to bundle up

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Speaker 2: Bottom of the mountain looks fine. You go up the

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Speaker 4: See, I had a clear, sunny day. I got lucky.

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Speaker 2: It was hard because we were doing blacks all day,

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Speaker 4: Was it crowded?

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Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: I always worried about like other people because you do

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Speaker 2: It's also a family day there, so there were kids.

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Speaker 3: And what I'm taking from this, which I kind of

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Speaker 3: three four, whatever the philosophy is, will say we want

437
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Speaker 3: to be aggressive, we want to be physical. Sure, but

438
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Speaker 3: I think when you are coming from a Jim Leonard

439
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: style philosophy and that's what you're trying to instill onto

440
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Speaker 3: this team, saying we want to dictate to the offense

441
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Speaker 3: does actually hold some weight because he will want to

442
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Speaker 3: say we are blitzing thirty to forty percent of the time,

443
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Speaker 3: and we are going to make the offense and the

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Speaker 3: quarterback respond in under two seconds a lot more frequently

445
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Speaker 3: than Sean McDermot did. Where it was Ben don't break,

446
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Speaker 3: keep it in front of you.

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Speaker 2: What is your take on three four versus four to three.

448
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Speaker 2: Some people could hear you're switching your front seven around

449
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Speaker 2: and think, oh my gosh, does anybody fit in this

450
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Speaker 2: defense anymore that's currently on this roster. What are they

451
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Speaker 2: going to have to do? How is it going to

452
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Speaker 2: look different? Are the players that they're looking into, whether

453
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Speaker 2: that be prospects or free agents, going to be different

454
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Speaker 2: than anything the Bills have ever had on their defensives?

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Speaker 2: How do you break it down to someone who knows

456
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Speaker 2: the game for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean I can't say that I know

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Speaker 3: all the specific coaching nuances, but scheme, when you're evaluating

459
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Speaker 3: an entire draft, you do kind of have to have

460
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Speaker 3: awareness of those size and length thresholds at each spot.

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Speaker 4: So I have a decent grasp of it.

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Speaker 3: And I'll first say the raigning Super Bowl champion Seahawks,

463
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Speaker 3: their head coach Mike McDonald, his roots are in the

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Speaker 3: three four like he wanted three down linemen, three or

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Speaker 3: four linebackers, and then you spread around your nickel corners,

466
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Speaker 3: your safeties, and use people.

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Speaker 4: In a lot of different ways on the back end.

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Speaker 3: So it's I'm not saying that that's what every team

469
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Speaker 3: needs to copy, but I do think in today's NFL,

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Speaker 3: for as much as there are successful defenses that are

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Speaker 3: four threes that are just one gap, they want their

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Speaker 3: defensive linement getting up the field like what Sean McDermott

473
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Speaker 3: was really rooted in in that Jim Johnson defense. It

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Speaker 3: feels like today coaches have taught quarterbacks to get the

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Speaker 3: ball out of their hands so quickly that when you

476
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Speaker 3: can throw a lot of different things at them in

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Speaker 3: terms of is that outside linebacker is he actually dropping

478
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Speaker 3: into coverage or is he coming or is he twisting?

479
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Speaker 3: And there is the defensive end actually coming on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Throwing a lot more at them with the front seven,

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Speaker 3: I think is the way that we will see the

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Speaker 3: league continue to evolve because when it is very cut

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Speaker 3: and dry and okay, at Oliver, he's getting up the

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Speaker 3: field as a three technique, that's it. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: easier for the quarterbacks to get those high percentage throws

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Speaker 3: out there, maximize the hours after the catch. Suddenly you're

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Speaker 3: in second and two or you get the first down.

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Speaker 3: So I think we saw it with Mike McDonald. Now again,

489
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Speaker 3: the year before Vic Fangio and the Eagles, they were

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Speaker 3: running a four to three. They had all the horses

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Speaker 3: up front to do it. But when you don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: have four all pro defensive linemen, you're more front seven

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Speaker 3: base where it's very confusing for a quarterback to know

494
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Speaker 3: who's in coverage, who's blitzing, who's who's eating two blockers,

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Speaker 3: who's freeing up space, so different questions that I just

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Speaker 3: posed right there for a quarterback to have to digest

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Speaker 3: and process all of that information in like two and

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Speaker 3: a half seconds, make the right read, make the right

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Speaker 3: throw to the right player, and throw accurately. That's why

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Speaker 3: I think that is the new wave of the NFL,

501
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Speaker 3: which is certainly not something that has never been run before.

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Speaker 3: But I think the league is very cyclical, and it's

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Speaker 3: coming back to those three four type philosophies that were

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Speaker 3: really good with Rex Ryan, Bill Belichick even you know, ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty years ago.

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Speaker 4: They're coming full circle again to be the way to

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Speaker 4: confuse quarterbacks in today's NFL.

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Speaker 2: Who is one player on Buffalo's current roster that is

509
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Speaker 2: set to be here next year? Who you think three four? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This guy fits that.

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Speaker 3: Dan Walker. Chris and I talked about this yesterday. I mean,

512
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Speaker 3: I just think he's a good football player in general.

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Speaker 3: And Chris and I like as we were really getting

514
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Speaker 3: bogged down with three four VERSU four to three, and

515
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Speaker 3: who fits who doesn't arm lengths, all those things that

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Speaker 3: we will certainly talk about during the draft process.

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Speaker 4: I did like.

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Speaker 3: Kind of pump the brakes and say, look the football player.

519
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Speaker 3: Like good football players are useful in any scheme. Now, again,

520
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Speaker 3: maybe there are some players that you want longer arms,

521
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Speaker 3: bigger body types up front in this scheme. Dean Walker

522
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Speaker 3: being six seven, three point forty, he can be a

523
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Speaker 3: nose tackle. I think he's really good as a five technique,

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Speaker 3: like a hand in the dirt defensive end in this scheme.

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Speaker 3: But he's not going to be very stagnant and only

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Speaker 3: be at one of those two spots. You can align

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Speaker 3: him at four. I is another position that's in between

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Speaker 3: those two. The fact that he has that size to

529
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Speaker 3: penetrate but also eat blockers just because he's can play

530
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Speaker 3: probably close to three hundred and fifty pounds and carry

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Speaker 3: it well. I think he was actually, if you're really

532
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Speaker 3: trying to get specific, he was an ill fit in

533
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's defense, but had a great rookie season, played

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Speaker 3: a lot of snaps, never hit the rookie wall, and

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Speaker 3: showed that he could get upfield and beat any type.

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Speaker 4: Of blocker, whether it was a guard, a center, or

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Speaker 4: a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Jim Leonard will love that about Dion Walker, and I

539
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Speaker 3: think we could see him grow from quality rookie, very

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Speaker 3: happy with the return on investment to a legitimate star

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Speaker 3: in this defense.

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Speaker 2: One player that I think will be a great fit

543
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Speaker 2: in three four because he's used all over the defense

544
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Speaker 2: across the line once he gets healthy.

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Speaker 3: Michael Horst, Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, we like didn't

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Speaker 3: we forgot to bring him up because I think because

547
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Speaker 3: of the injury and he was out of sight, out

548
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Speaker 3: of mind.

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Speaker 4: But he is.

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Speaker 3: If I was just gonna say that Dean Walker technically

551
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Speaker 3: was not a great fit in a four to three

552
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Speaker 3: and is the consummate three four defensive lineman, Michael Hoyt

553
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Speaker 3: is the ideal three to four outside rush linebacker. Where

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Speaker 3: what I posed earlier is he is he blitzing? Is

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Speaker 3: is it going to be a stunt? Is he dropping

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Speaker 3: in coverage?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Wow, now he's over the a gap like doing all

559
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Speaker 3: those different things, having that body type sixty three sixty four,

560
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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty two hundred and sixty pounds, not

561
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Speaker 3: necessarily ever being in a three point stance, but standing

562
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Speaker 3: up and being used all across the formation.

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Speaker 4: Those are the type of players.

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Speaker 3: That Jim Leonard utilized very well at Wisconsin, and certainly

565
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Speaker 3: we saw the last two years as someone that was

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Speaker 3: a key component to vance Joseph's defense in Denver that

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Speaker 3: they maximize very well.

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Speaker 2: We heard from Jim Leonard a couple weeks ago when

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Speaker 2: he spoke to media for the first time, and he

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Speaker 2: had said that he'd just come out of a meeting

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Speaker 2: with the Bill's scouting staff explaining, this is the defense

572
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Speaker 2: that we're going to run. This is what I'm looking

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Speaker 2: for in type, in terms of a player build. This

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Speaker 2: is who I believe fits in this defense. This is

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Speaker 2: who I believe maybe isn't the best fit. This is

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Speaker 2: who I believe we can morph into fitting in a

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Speaker 2: three four defense. I just thought a meeting like that,

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Speaker 2: I would love to be a fly on the wall

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Speaker 2: for one of those meetings as your new defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: is kind of coaching up your scouts to do their

581
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Speaker 2: final couple weeks of work before the NFL scouting combine

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Speaker 2: begin dotting their eyes, crossing their t's and making sure

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Speaker 2: we know exactly what we need to go get and

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Speaker 2: we know how we're going to approach these interviews. We

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Speaker 2: know how we're going to look at these drills.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would absolutely love that because then

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Speaker 3: it would help me narrow down who the Bills might pick,

588
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Speaker 3: because you get to know all the body types, and

589
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Speaker 3: in watching the film you see how these players were

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Speaker 3: utilized in college. So yeah, that is definitely an absolutely

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Speaker 3: vital conversation that's probably been going on last week and

592
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Speaker 3: probably into this week as the Bills all get ready

593
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Speaker 3: to take the trip to Indy where they can themselves

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Speaker 3: narrow down their lens of these are the types we're

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Speaker 3: not going to really pay attention to as much, and

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Speaker 3: these are the guys that we really like.

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Speaker 2: I spoke to a couple of Scouts as they came

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Speaker 2: out of that meeting, just running into people in the

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Speaker 2: cafeteria and them saying, yeah, we just got out of

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Speaker 2: this meeting, and you could tell there was an excitement

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Speaker 2: of like, now we got it. We know what we need,

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Speaker 2: we know what we're going to go after, and we

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Speaker 2: know how to approach the next few weeks. So a

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Speaker 2: lot of excitement here as one Bill's drive, as at

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Speaker 2: one Bills Drive. Soon enough, everybody's gonna be on the

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Speaker 2: road heading to Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combing. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a break, but when we return, we're dipping

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Speaker 2: into some news and notes. Your Chicago native has a

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back here on one of those slide

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Speaker 2: back cloud alongside of NFL analyst person to pass so

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Speaker 2: rest of the week. And in today's segment. Right now,

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Speaker 2: we'd like to jump over to some NFL news and

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Speaker 2: Clyde Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Nothing too crazy in terms of Bills related news, but

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Speaker 2: some NFL related news. The Bears are promoting within their

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Speaker 2: scouting staff. Chicago's promoting Jeff King to their new assistant GM,

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Speaker 2: filling the spot vacated by now Falcoms Falcons gm Ian Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: King is a former NFL tight end, started as an

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Speaker 2: intern in Chicago's personnel department, in twenty fifteen and played

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Speaker 2: in the league from two thousand and six to twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Lots of NFL teams are finishing up filling out their

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Speaker 2: staffs right now if they had a new head coach.

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Speaker 2: You see teams finalizing their new coaching staff, finalizing moves

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Speaker 2: within scouting departments, and teams who lost out on some

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Speaker 2: them filling out that staff before the NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of a deadline date in

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Speaker 2: the NFL to figure out your scouting staff and your

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Speaker 2: coaching staff by a date like that, because that's when

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Speaker 2: the wheels start churning and when you kind of start

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Speaker 2: pushing towards that next season.

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Speaker 3: Are the Raiders totally done after hiring Clint Kubiak because

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Speaker 3: they were the last ones after the Super Bowl? They

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Speaker 3: hired Al hulkom Bill's former whatever his position was assistant.

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Speaker 2: Line He was the linebackers coach for Buffalo, so Al

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Speaker 2: Holcomb is now the senior defensive assistant at the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: According to Mike Garrifolo, Hulcomb joins Rob Leonard's defensive staff

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Speaker 2: as Leonard is the new defensive coordinator under Clint Kubiak,

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Speaker 2: and Hulcomb originally joined the Bills as a senior defensive

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Speaker 2: his assistant in twenty twenty three. The Raiders have also

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Speaker 2: named former Seahawks run game coordinator and senior offensive offensive

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Speaker 2: advisor Rick Dennison as their offensive line coach. Dennison might

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Speaker 2: be a familiar name to Bills fans because he was

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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for Buffalo back in twenty seventeen. Spent

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Speaker 2: just one season in twenty twenty five with the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: So some teams move in and shift in some new

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Speaker 2: and NFL Network, there's some news there. Ian Rapaport appeared

655
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 2: on Andrew Marchin's Athletic podcast and talked about the ESPN

656
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: NFL media deal, which that news broke a while ago,

657
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: but since then, the news that's come out after that

658
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: has been very few and far between. Rapaport said on

659
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: the podcast it will be one company, one company, meaning ESPN,

660
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: and two networks, ESPN and NFL Network. Rapaport said it

661
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: sounds like ESPN will invest in NFL Network and said

662
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: it would be great if it's something similar to ESPN's

663
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: relationship with SEC Network. He noted that SEC Network has

664
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Speaker 2: done a great job with college football and ESPN has

665
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: elevated what college football is due to their partnership with

666
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: SEC Network and the quality of shows and the quality

667
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: of games that is put on that network. I worked

668
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: at the University of Tennessee before coming to the Bills,

669
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: so I was dialed in on SEC Network all the

670
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: time when I worked for the University of Tennessee, and

671
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a fantastic network. I think they do

672
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: a great job with that conference. We know the ACC

673
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Network also under ESPN, So I think they've done a

674
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: great job of dipping into the college landscape and kind

675
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: of elevating those games, elevating shows, elevating just the conversation

676
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: surrounding college football and college athletics. Rappaport also added that

677
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: he's not sure what his role will be as his

678
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: contract is up in May.

679
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

680
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: I wonder like, if it's the same company but two

681
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: separate networks, will it really matter right what his actual

682
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: title is. Will he just be the head NFL insider

683
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: along with Adam Schefter or this dual network that are

684
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: all owned by the same company be interesting to see.

685
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Peter Schrager going from Good Morning Football on

686
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: NFL network to ESPN was like the big NFL media

687
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: news last season. But now they'll all be part of

688
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: the same family. Would be interesting to see. You know,

689
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: there won't be as many maybe Twitter insider news reporting

690
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: wars between Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport, which are usually

691
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: pretty civil, but a lot of times you see them

692
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: tweeting almost the same thing at the same time. I

693
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: wonder how much that changes, And of course Ian Rapaport

694
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: will be, you know, getting that new contract.

695
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Speaker 4: You'll just be interesting to see if they what it looks.

696
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 3: Like, what it looks like and are they calling him

697
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: the ESPN NFL insider with Adam Schefter or or is

698
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 3: an NFL network.

699
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: But I agree with you the partnership.

700
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Speaker 3: That SEC network has with ESPN is great, and I

701
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: think this makes a lot of sense that the NFL

702
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: is the biggest driver of revenue for ESPN, that they

703
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: are investing in what was I guess kind of hurting

704
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: an NFL network that needed some financial help, and makes

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot of sense from a business standpoint.

706
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: Some other bills related news that I forgot to include,

707
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: but including it here. Now. Brown's Pro Bowl guard Wyatt Teller,

708
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 2: who's scheduled to become a free agent this offseason, announced

709
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: on Instagram that he will not return to Cleveland and

710
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: will now sign elsewhere. Wyatt Teller was drafted by the

711
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Bills in twenty eighteen the fifth round, played one season

712
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: with Buffalo before heading to the Cleveland Browns in twenty nineteen.

713
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: He's a three time Pro Bowler twenty twenty one, twenty

714
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty twenty three, and earned second team All

715
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Pro honors in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

716
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: That's got to be something that bed Brandon Bean's like man.

717
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 4: I would like to have him back.

718
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: He was part of my inaugural Josh Allen draft class, and.

719
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: He traded him.

720
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: He was one of the first late August we have

721
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 3: a surplus at a position trades for Brandon Bean, which

722
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: they ultimately did use one of those picks that they

723
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: got in the Wyateller deal to get Stefan Diggs, so

724
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: it wasn't a total wash.

725
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one seventh round pick, and along with Teller,

726
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: was traded to the Browns for twenty twenty fifth and

727
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 2: sixth round picks.

728
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I believe one of those picks was thrown

729
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: into the Digs trade, so.

730
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't a total washingt.

731
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: It did help the Bills get Stefan Diggs for those

732
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: prime years when he was in Buffalo. But you would

733
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 3: have to think that Brandon Bean, especially if they can't

734
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: re sign both Connor McGovern the center and David Edwards

735
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: the left guard, who does have a tie to Jim

736
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: Leonard from Wisconsin. But anyway that they would look to

737
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: Wyatt Teller and Brandon Bean would say, I'd like to

738
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: have one of the members of my initial draft class

739
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: in Buffalo back on this team. And at this point,

740
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: with Wyatt Teller being thirty one years old, he's still

741
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: a very serviceable player. I think he's definitely above average

742
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: for the right guard spot or left guard spot. You

743
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: could get him into this building for a reasonable cost.

744
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: At this point, you're not paying for all pro Wyatt

745
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: Teller of four or five years ago, but can still

746
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: be a good interior blocker on this team.

747
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Why Teller, you want to come home? What do you

748
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: think about that? Interestingly enough, for the Browns, their entire

749
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: starting offensive line is set to become.

750
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: Free Has that ever happened before?

751
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was of a friend who works

752
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: for the Browns and she's going to combine. So we're

753
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: trying to figure out if we can meet up for

754
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: coffee and it's like, oh, how long are you going

755
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: to be there? And she's like, Oh, I'm going to

756
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: be there the whole week. Our entire offensive line is

757
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: about to hit the free agent market. We need to

758
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: talk to these offensive line process.

759
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: That's interesting that I'm wondering that I'm wondering along those

760
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: same lines. And I don't mean to like poke too

761
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: much fun at the Browns, but it is I think

762
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: very fitting that that is happening for the Cleveland Browns.

763
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: Whyatt tell her?

764
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: Is now the second Brown starter that it like announced

765
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: like he was a prospect entering the NFL draft, Like

766
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm going to be hitting free agency. I've

767
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: never seen that. I've been covering and evaluating the NFL

768
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: for over fifteen years. Now you get some like you

769
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: can read the tea leaves at times, like oh maybe

770
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 3: at this stage tremade edminds is going to hit free agency.

771
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: But he didn't come out and say I'm leaving the Bills.

772
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: David and Joku and Wyat Teller both like took to

773
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: Canva and got their picture and they said thank you

774
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: to Cleveland.

775
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm entering the trades for Portal.

776
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was like one of those things.

777
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: So not only are the Browns losing their entire offensive

778
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: line potentially in free agency, they're all set to hit

779
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: free agency, but they're two of their I don't want

780
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: to say like biggest stars, but two core pieces in

781
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Wyatt Teller and David and Joku took to social media

782
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: to let everyone know that they will not be re

783
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: signing a hometown discount deal with Cleveland.

784
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I also think it's interesting that you have an entire

785
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: offensive line who's about to become free agents. When you're

786
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: doing deals, you're usually thinking about what's happening down the

787
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: road and making these deals so that you don't have

788
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: an entire position group that could or could not be

789
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: on the team after a certain amount of time. And

790
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's because you're freeing up cap space and

791
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: there's a reset there, but usually that's I mean an

792
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: entire offensive line. That's a lot of work on your

793
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: scouting department, and you think even if you just can

794
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: have one or two of those guys go for you know,

795
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: a year longer on there those deals. I don't know.

796
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: That's That's one thing that I'm kind of wondering in

797
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: my brain is like, how do you set this up

798
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: so that everybody maybe it was maybe it was purposeful.

799
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why.

800
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot to wonder about that type of situation.

801
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: And we've heard Brandon Bean say it a lot, and

802
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: it does feel like the typical idea that gms have

803
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: entering free agency in the draft this whirlwind of six

804
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: weeks is we want to pluck fill as many holes

805
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: in free agency so we are not backed into a

806
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: specific positional corner for the draft. Now, the Browns could

807
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: re sign three of those five players and then they're

808
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: not in as dire of a situation up front entering

809
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: the draft. But if four of those guys hit free agency,

810
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: they need to then look for cheaper options in free agency,

811
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: and then they could maybe go into the draft and think, man,

812
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: we need to really allocate a lot of our draft

813
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: capital upfront. I'm just looking to the Browns currently, and

814
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: there can be restructures. We know the Bills are still

815
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: technically over the cap they can get under with a

816
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: few very easy moves. But it's not as though the

817
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: Browns are potentially losing their entire offensive line and they

818
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: have seventy million in cap space. They have three million

819
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: in cap space. They're like near the bottom of the

820
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: league in that regard. I think the Deshaun Watson contract

821
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: is still haunting them a little, but it's very unprecedented

822
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: for a team that has just been perpetually rebuilding for

823
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: the last like twenty five years.

824
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be following that. I'm very interested to

825
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: see what happens with the Browns offensive line. Call me

826
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: a football nerd, but I'm gonna be too gaining.

827
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's ever happened. I mean, maybe

828
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: it's probably happened, but I can't remember a time in

829
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: the last ten or fifteen years where they were all

830
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: impending UFAs and one of which took to social media

831
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: or even said to the to the media, I am leaving,

832
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: I am not coming back. They already had it happen

833
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: with Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator, then David and Joke.

834
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: Now, why I tell.

835
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: Her, is another offensive lineman going to make a statement

836
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: that says I'm good. I want to go elsewhere.

837
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: Chris brought it up yesterday.

838
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: One of them is Joe Botonio, who was hinted at

839
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: potentially retiring, So that might be one that they just

840
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: have no avenue to bring him back as he might

841
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: be done in football. And that's something where yes, you

842
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: have a new head coach, Todd Munkin, but you are

843
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: trying to salvage anything at the quarterback spot with your

844
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks that you picked last year and Shudor Sanders

845
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: and Dylan Gabriel. Do you address the quarterback position again?

846
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: Are you looking to sign Malik Willis? Are you trying

847
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: to salvage Deshaun Watson at this point? And it's sad

848
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: because that is certainly another fan base that has been

849
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: through a lot, and they are very fervent fans in

850
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: Cleveland that deserve better. It's just they've always been rebuilding.

851
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: They've had a couple of times in the playoffs recently,

852
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: but not getting the quarterback position correct is ultimately what

853
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: has haunted that team more than anything else.

854
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. I just anytime you say quarterback posician

855
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: in Cleveland Browns, I just think back to that one

856
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: picture of a fan where on the back of his

857
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: jersey he has all the last names.

858
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: Of the now like the picture is like I mean,

859
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: I think with like AI people have added more and

860
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: it's like the names are like off the picture. At

861
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: this point, there's like thirty or forty since they've moved

862
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: back to Cleveland in ninety nine.

863
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Crazy us Bill's fans. We're lucky because Josh Allen is

864
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: our quarterback and they locked that in years ago. All Right,

865
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break, but when you return, I'm

866
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: addressing what's going on in Chicago. Are they gonna be

867
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: the Indiana Bears. I can't have it. I cannot. So

868
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: we're diving into that next. On One Bill's Live, we're

869
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: presented by Sladhealth on Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, welcome

870
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960
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871
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Speaker 2: analyst Chris Trepasso. Today, I've been teasing it for the

872
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: last two segments. Your Chicago native Gal right here is

873
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: really frustrated with what is going on in Chicago. I

874
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: cannot believe this. I am at this morning when I

875
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: saw that tweet come across my timeline and I saw

876
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter tweet about the Indiana Bears

877
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: tweet about Indiana moving forward with all of this. I

878
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: cannot believe it. Oh my gosh, how can the city

879
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: of Chicago let this happen? A franchise light the Chicago

880
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: Bears could be heading to Indiana because the city cannot

881
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: get its stuff together. This is a This is maddening.

882
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: This is maddening for me. Okay, so explain, back it up,

883
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: back it up here. Let me tell you about what

884
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: happened today. So the Bears released a statement today about

885
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: the new stadium process, and it seems like Indiana is

886
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: currently the leader in the clubhouse. So the statement read

887
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: the passage of SB twenty seven, which is what Indiana

888
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: is working on to basically move forward in the process

889
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: of saying, we have land, we have the funds, we

890
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: have a plan for how this is going to work.

891
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 2: All you need to do is come along with us.

892
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: So this would mark the most meaningful step forward in

893
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: our stadium planning efforts due to date. We are committed

894
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: to finishing the remaining site specific necessary due diligence to

895
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: support our vision to build a world class stadium near

896
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: the Wolf Lake area in Hammond, Indiana. We appreciate the

897
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: leadership shown by Governor Braun and others in establishing this

898
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: critical framework and path forward to deliver a premier venue

899
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: for all of Chicagoland and a destination for Bears fans

900
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: and visitors from across the globe. So, if you're just

901
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: joining in on this news and you're like, wait, Maddie,

902
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: what happened? How are the Bears maybe going to move

903
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: to Indiana? Well, let me tell you this. Let me

904
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: tell you some of this information. So it's been in

905
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: the news that the Bears are searching for a new site, stadium,

906
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: for a new stadium because it seems like downtown Chicago

907
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: is just not cutting in parking issues, other issues, traffic

908
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: in and out, something that people have complained about for

909
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: a long time. Personally, I've always liked the stadium being

910
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: in Chicago because it just makes sense. It is picturesque.

911
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: You can see the lake from certain viewpoints. You cannot

912
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: see the lake from sitting in your seats at all,

913
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: so you can see some buildings, you don't see the

914
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: entire skyline. From the press box, you can see the

915
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: lake if you're looking out the other direction. I like

916
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: it being in Chicago, because I just think it makes sense.

917
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: There's the Chicago Bears, there's.

918
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Soldier around for like one hundred years. Exactly what happened

919
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: with the Indy with the Illinois proposal, wasn't.

920
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: It Today they started to look at Arlington Heights as

921
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: an area that would make sense.

922
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: Now.

923
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: Arlington Heights is a heights is a former race track.

924
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: I used to go there when I was a kid.

925
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: We used to go to horse races. It is a

926
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: big plot of land. They could put an NFL team

927
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: there very easily and make it work. It's in the suburbs,

928
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: so it's about a twenty minute drive I want to

929
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: say from O'Hare or Midway, I can't remember which one

930
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: the two airports in Chicago, and it's about forty five

931
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Speaker 2: minutes from the other. So you have to drive a

932
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: little bit to get into the suburbs. It's not like

933
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: it's right in Chicago that has come and gone. It

934
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: seems like, why it seems like a big issue here.

935
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking to my family. I'm talking to my

936
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: dad about this, texting, like, what is going on?

937
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: Dad?

938
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Why is this so crazy? Property taxes? Illinois is known

939
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: for insane property taxes, and it seems like Arlington Heights

940
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: and the city wanted to do some insane property taxes

941
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: on the Bears or putting a stadium there, like property

942
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: taxes you have never heard of before that made no

943
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: sense even for an NFL stadium and NFL team, if

944
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: you're comparing it to what the Bears were currently paying

945
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: in Chicago and what other teams pay for those sort

946
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: of things. Now, there's also issues with the City of

947
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Chicago and with everybody getting on the same page, taxpayer funding,

948
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: all those things. I don't think I don't think each

949
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: area could come to an agreement of this, this is

950
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: what we need from this party, this is what we

951
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: need from this party, and this is what we need

952
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: from that party to make it seem like nobody is

953
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: getting screwed in this deal. So everybody thought that they

954
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: were getting screwed, and so that's why it has not

955
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: moved forward in Arlington Heights, which is where they originally

956
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: wanted it. So Indiana's like, you know what, we want

957
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: to come say the day because we're gonna make it

958
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: really really enticing for the Chicago Bears. We're gonna make

959
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: a fair deal. We're not gonna charge you out the

960
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: wazoo for property taxes. We have an area in mind.

961
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: We want to make this as easy as possible for

962
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: you guys. We're doing the legwork, The legislators are doing

963
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: their thing, and it's gonna come together seamlessly. And it

964
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: seems like on Indiana's side, all of this has been

965
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: moving very quickly. It seems like it's gone from idea,

966
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: do we have the land? Do we have an idea

967
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: and the entire state is behind it? Where in Indiana

968
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: do you say, Hammond, Indiana? This is not like this

969
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: is two hours away from Chicago. It's actually a thirty

970
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: five minute drive from the city of Chicago. It's about

971
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 2: forty minutes from Midway. And O'Hara, I want to say,

972
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: and it is southeast of the city of Chicago. If

973
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: you're wondering where the heck Hammond, Indiana is And a

974
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: tweet from Governor Mike Brawn went out this morning. The

975
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: Governor of Indiana said that Indiana is open for business

976
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: and our pro growth environment continues to attract major opportunities

977
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: like this partnership with the Chicago Bears. We've identified a

978
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: promising site near Wolf Lake in Hammond and established a

979
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: broad framework of negotiating a final deal if approved. The

980
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: proposed amendment to send it Bill twenty seven SB twenty seven,

981
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: which I was talking about earlier, puts forward the essential

982
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: framework to complete this agreement, contingent upon site due diligence

983
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: proceeding smoothly. So it seems like things are all moving

984
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: in the direction of the bears moving to Indiana. This

985
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: is now interesting to hear that this is happening today

986
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: where this note went out today, because there was supposed.

987
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: To be a meeting on the Illinois ride.

988
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: On the Illinois side, there was supposed to be a

989
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 2: meeting today, and this meeting was going to be about

990
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: these property taxes. Now, the big thing with this property,

991
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: these property taxes, is the team wants to seek a

992
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: tax freeze or property tax certainty for up to forty

993
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: years on potential development sites like Arlington Heights, which is

994
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: faced resistance from state lawmakers. That was what this meeting

995
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: was about. And the people thought that this was moving

996
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: in the right direction from Arlington Heights side, and that

997
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: the property tax issue was really one of the biggest

998
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: final things that you had to jump through or what

999
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: you had to solve to make sure that the Bills

1000
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: the Bills, the Bears could move forward with staying in

1001
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: the state of Illinois. But this meeting was now canceled,

1002
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: and you're wondering was it canceled because it just seems

1003
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: like Indiana's just moving forward with all this so quickly,

1004
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: and the Bears are really on board with how sweet

1005
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: this deal seems. So this is it's all interesting timing

1006
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: with these meetings being canceled and with Indiana really moving

1007
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: forward quickly and being a big player in this. Originally

1008
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: it was kind of like Indiana, like, are you just

1009
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: gonna throw out that the Bears are moving to Florida,

1010
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: like just just to make Chicago lawmakers.

1011
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: Kind of like, okay, leverage play.

1012
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: Fine, we have to get serious about this. But no,

1013
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: it's like Indiana is a big player and last.

1014
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: Point before we go to break which which all that

1015
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: is super fascinating for one of the you know, Marquee

1016
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: NFL franchises that has been around since the start of

1017
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: the na it's nineteen twenty.

1018
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: This team has been around since nineteen twenty and twenty

1019
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: twenty five, you're telling me they might move.

1020
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: Out of Chicago.

1021
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: Jonathan in the control Room brought up a really good

1022
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: point before the show started that I think what else

1023
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: complicates this more so than what the Bills had to

1024
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: deal with here in Orchard Park, is when this stadium

1025
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: goes up. It is near Chicago, It's gonna be a dome,

1026
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: there's two airports. It is a hub for a lot

1027
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: of commerce that you were gonna get a Super Bowl.

1028
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: You're guaranteed to get a Super Bowl, You're gonna get

1029
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: Final Fours, you're gonna get Bowl games, You're gonna get

1030
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: mega concerts. Splitting the revenue or deciding the share of

1031
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: revenue does it go to the Bears, does it go

1032
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: to the state of.

1033
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: Illinois, state of Indiana? How does that split?

1034
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: I think that further complicates things and has kind of

1035
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 3: allowed Indiana to jump into the frecas here and say, hey,

1036
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: we actually will give you maybe a sweeter deal in

1037
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: terms of all of that extra revenue beyond Bears games.

1038
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: Definitely. So these are the nuts and bolts of this

1039
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: whole ordeal that has dominated my brain now for the

1040
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: last couple months. In my family, I texted them this morning,

1041
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: I said, what is going on?

1042
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: My dad?

1043
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: I think is refusing to believe that this might happen.

1044
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: He's saying, there's still there's still hope that they stay

1045
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 2: in Chicago. Fingers crossed for that, because your girl, who's

1046
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: born and raised in Chicago does not want to see

1047
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, who started to be a football team

1048
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty moved to the state of Indiana. I

1049
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: don't care how close it is to Chicago. I don't

1050
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 2: care that it's still is drivable from Chicago O'Hare in

1051
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: National Airport and Midway Airport. Keep the Bears in Chicago.

1052
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's my that's my two cents,

1053
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: and I'm sticking to it. So I hope you like

1054
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: this rant, and I hope you like this explanation of

1055
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: what the heck is going on. So something to follow

1056
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: in the days and weeks as we move forward. But

1057
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: it seems like this is moving quickly. So maybe I'll

1058
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: be the resident beat reporter on what's going on with

1059
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: fill us in throughout you know, yeah, all right, we

1060
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: gotta take a break, but when we return, we are

1061
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: dipping into the tweets sheet. We want to know from you.

1062
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: Would you rather target a wide receiver and free agency

1063
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: or in the NFL Draft. You can tweet at us

1064
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: next reading them off here on One Bill's Live or

1065
00:53:44,480 --> 00:54:26,279
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1066
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Live, presented by called Laida Health.

1067
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of the Thursday edition of

1068
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Mattie Glave alongside of NFL analyst Christrapasso

1069
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: filling in for Chris Brown and Steve Tasker for the

1070
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: rest of the week before the show heads on the

1071
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: road beginning Tuesday afternoon at the NFL Scouting Comments and

1072
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: you can catch us there next week. We're gonna have

1073
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: some awesome guests on the show. I've already seen a

1074
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: list of some of the people we have, and it

1075
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: is the creme de la crem There's going to be

1076
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: some great conversations surrounding the NFL Draft, the prospects available,

1077
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: and what the Bills should do with that twenty sixth

1078
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: overall pick. We have a question for you today, would

1079
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: you rather use free agency or the draft to address

1080
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: wide receiver and why we want to head to the

1081
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: tweet sheet now. It's presented by Corgan Moving Systems, the

1082
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and John

1083
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: Paul says draft getting talent on cost control for four

1084
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Speaker 2: or five years is what's best for the Bills at

1085
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: this point. Joe said, both short term help and long

1086
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: term potential on cost control contract, and you would assume,

1087
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: like when it all boils down, like they're probably going

1088
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: to do both. You're probably gonna see the Bills go

1089
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: after position groups in free agency and in the draft

1090
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: because you have an option that you have on your

1091
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: team for the next four to five seasons, and then

1092
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: you have a short term option that person could help

1093
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: out and coach a younger player.

1094
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: So I would be coming in with a lot of

1095
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: bias as a draft guy and say, oh, draft draft.

1096
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: From what you just outlined, like cost control, they're cheaper,

1097
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: there's obviously much more of the unknown with the draft guys.

1098
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: And I think this question it might seem like a softball,

1099
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 3: but I think framing it this way, are you more

1100
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: so into win the Super Bowl this year? I don't

1101
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: care if you trade two first rounders to get Justin

1102
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: Jefferson or AJ Brown go free agency trade route or

1103
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 3: do you think the more methodical approach where you do

1104
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: have the upside of I want this player to grow

1105
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: with Josh Allen for the I don't want to say

1106
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: the rest of his career necessarily, but the rest of

1107
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: his prime thirty thirty one, thirty two to thirty three,

1108
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: thirty four. Which direction do you think makes more sense

1109
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: for the prominent addition to this wide receiver group to be?

1110
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: And I think it kind of depends on which timeline

1111
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: or which team building philosophy you're kind of thinking about.

1112
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Definitely, that's a good thing to think about when thinking

1113
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: free agency or the NFL draft. Andrew says, I would

1114
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: like them to get a proven guy now, so I

1115
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: would lean more towards free agency. If we are in

1116
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 2: the top ten in the NFL draft, then it would

1117
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: be a no brainer go get the top right wide receiver.

1118
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: But at pick number twenty six, a top rated wide

1119
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: receiver most likely will be gone as of late, Bean

1120
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: doesn't trade up. Usually I want Juwan Jennings.

1121
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I love Dwan Jennings. He's a good place. Yeah,

1122
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: he's gonna get out of Sea.

1123
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of money. Though I saw

1124
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: like the the I think it was on spot Track.

1125
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: It was around twenty one or something like that.

1126
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: As a former was he a seventh rounder undrafted. He

1127
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: was not. He was not yea seventh round pick out

1128
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: of ten.

1129
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: He is going to say sixth or seventh.

1130
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 4: Maddy knows him well from her time there.

1131
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: Guys, he is awesome. If you get somebody like Juwan Jennings,

1132
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: that guy's a dog. He's going to elevate your entire

1133
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: position group because of what he demands in the way

1134
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: that he plays the game.

1135
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: Spot track's market value calculated market value, and Mike Jennety

1136
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: does a great job with those like he nails a

1137
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: lot of these twenty two point six million per year,

1138
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: which seems astronomical, but we have seen the thirty thirty

1139
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: million dollars per year threshold get eclipsed at the wide

1140
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: receiver position.

1141
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: So the salary CAP's.

1142
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: Over three hundred million now, so you have to kind

1143
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: of adjust every year. You have to recalibrate that outside

1144
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: of the COVID year, the NFL salary cap has gone

1145
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: up so much. It's actually raised almost one hundred million

1146
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: dollars since twenty twenty two.

1147
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 4: Think about that.

1148
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: It was right over two hundred million in twenty twenty two.

1149
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: Now it is three hundred and five million this year.

1150
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: So you see that Jwan Jennings could make an average

1151
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: annual salary of twenty two or twenty three million. It's

1152
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: actually probably what he's truly worth. And if you're going

1153
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: to get a high level wide receiver two that is

1154
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: going to catch everything, be eight on third downs, can

1155
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: win on the inside, outside, tremendous after the catch. I

1156
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: mean he was a dual threat quarterback recruit at Tennessee.

1157
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: Did he play quarterback after at Tennessee?

1158
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: No, he didn't. I mean he would. He would be

1159
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: in on some trick plays. He's thrown some passes, but

1160
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: it's not like but his running.

1161
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: A wildcat his yards after the catchability. And this again

1162
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: goes back to me scouting him. He was just like

1163
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: this horse in the open field. And he has been

1164
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: that player in San Francisco. So he's a good I

1165
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 3: don't want to say cautionary tale, but he's a good

1166
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 3: case study I should say for preparing yourself for some

1167
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: of the free agent deals that you see get reported.

1168
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: A lot of it will be the max contract because

1169
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 3: the agents are giving him to the insiders all those

1170
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: details and a lot of the funny money is included.

1171
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: But for Juwan Jennings, if he signs, what is the

1172
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: actual salary that he's a three year, almost sixty eight

1173
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: million dollar deal that seems out of this world exorbitantly expensive,

1174
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: but in actuality, based on what the salary cap is today,

1175
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: the importance of the position and player actually makes a

1176
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: lot of sense.

1177
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: And how the market continues to get reset by wide receivers.

1178
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: You never know, three years, that deal may look really

1179
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: good based on what wide receivers are getting paid. I'll

1180
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: also say that that type of wide receiver, yes, he's

1181
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: really good at yards after catch, so is Khalul Shakir.

1182
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: But the mindset that's not in the wide receiver group

1183
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: right now on the Buffalo Bills. No, you don't see

1184
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: that type of player. And not saying that like they're

1185
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 2: lacking that or they need that to get over the hump.

1186
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: It would just be a new addition to what's already

1187
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: in the locker room.

1188
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: One thing that I'll say before we get to a

1189
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: few more suggestions here about free agency or draft for

1190
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: wide receiver, I will go on the record to say,

1191
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: unless the Bills trade for Justin Jefferson and they unload

1192
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of early draft picks, he would really kind

1193
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: of be the only one that I would say this for,

1194
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: even if they signed Mike Evans, if they trade for

1195
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior, Brian Thomas junior, any name that you

1196
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: want to throw out there, or they just sign a

1197
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: big name free agent, if it's Alec Pierce, if it's

1198
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: Who's I mean, if it's Juwan Jenning, if it's anyone else,

1199
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, George Pickens if he hits the market.

1200
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: I still think that.

1201
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: They need to address wide receiver in the draft as well,

1202
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: and not a fourth, fifth or sixth rounder. So I

1203
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: do think because we're having the comby next week, but

1204
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: then free agency is mid March, and then you go

1205
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: back to the draft when the Bills inevitably do sign,

1206
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: and you said it from the jump here, they will

1207
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: sign a proven player, whether they sign or trade for

1208
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: that player at receiver. Don't think that that precludes that

1209
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: done from stopping to add to the wide receiver position.

1210
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 3: Whether they maybe it would push down the knee to

1211
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 3: maybe round two, you could feel okay with it, and

1212
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: you address edge rusher or safety in round one. But

1213
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't think that this wide receiver room is one

1214
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: player away from being the level that the Bills wanted

1215
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: to be entering that new stadium next season.

1216
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Jeremy says, I would say the draft, but Brandon Bean

1217
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: has not utilized any primary picks to secure a surefire

1218
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver. It would be way more beneficial to draft

1219
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: one to get the financial benefit for three to five years.

1220
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: Interesting about like sure fire wide receiver, it's just the

1221
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 2: place that Buffalo has been drafting at the last three

1222
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: to five years. You're not at the top of the pack.

1223
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: You're not drafting a top ten prospect who could be

1224
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. So what you're stuck with is you're

1225
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 2: stuck with what's left over beginning around the twenty six mark,

1226
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: which is where they've existed for the last few years.

1227
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: And once you get down there, some of the best

1228
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: wide receivers are off the board, and who knows, maybe

1229
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: the Bills do decide to trade up this year to

1230
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: go get a wide receiver or a position group because

1231
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: they think it's worth it. But you have to be

1232
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: okay with trading away of their draft capital in order

1233
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: to get up. And sometimes it's so expensive to move

1234
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: just a couple couple picks or move five to ten

1235
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: picks that it's not even worth it because you're thinking,

1236
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wipe out a solid chunk of this year's

1237
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: draft or even part of next year's draft to move

1238
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: up and get what I think. Is it worth that

1239
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: or is it not worth it at all?

1240
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: Because of the volume that the Bills have to add

1241
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: on the defensive side, just more bodies for the defense.

1242
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: To me, my favorite idea for if they do explore

1243
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: a trade would be to trade a twenty twenty seven pick,

1244
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: to not trade this year's first rounder for a player,

1245
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: because I still think it is very valuable to get

1246
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: a few playmakers at edge, at safety, maybe another linebacker.

1247
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a nose tackle type. I don't really I'm

1248
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 3: not gonna say that. I think the Bill should draft

1249
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: a space eating, run stopping nose tackle in the first round.

1250
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: But to hold on to that pick. Now at the

1251
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: start of the Jim Leonard build on the defensive side,

1252
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: and there was the report that the Bills did flirt

1253
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: with the Dolphins about Jalen Model and that being offered

1254
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty seven first rounder. I wonder if that's

1255
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: something six Yes, I wonder if that's something that Brandon

1256
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: Bean will be talking to a bunch of teams about like, hey,

1257
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: like we actually want to build this defense right now.

1258
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: With the seven picks that you have in this draft,

1259
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: we can talk about twenty twenty seven.

1260
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 4: Though, after that.

1261
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: Interesting point from Mark and something that I think a

1262
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: lot of people have thought about, he says, neither I

1263
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: don't want to get one freegency or the draft. Trade.

1264
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: Bean hasn't been able to get a number one wide

1265
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: receiver in the draft or free agency. He did hit

1266
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: great though with Beasley Brown Shakir, but they weren't true

1267
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: number ones and that was a while ago. Trade is

1268
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: an interesting point because you have this roster right now,

1269
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: who was a roster built for Sean McDermott's Buffalo Bills,

1270
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: and you're entering an era where it's now the Joe

1271
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: Brady Buffalo Bills. And does every single player who's going

1272
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: to be on this roster next year fit exactly what

1273
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: they're trying to do? Trade might be an option where

1274
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: you can get some players who you think fit this

1275
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: version of what the Bills are going to look like.

1276
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the trade idea for a wide receiver, I mentioned

1277
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: a few of them to me. Justin Jeerson is that

1278
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: player where he is the last three to five years

1279
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 3: to me or I guess since he's entered the NFL

1280
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: been in the conversation for the best receiver in football.

1281
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 3: So that's one that you might be able to pry

1282
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: him loose from Minnesota because it's a new general manager there.

1283
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: We don't end there. I think they're forty three.

1284
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 3: Million dollars over the cap, which I'm sure they would

1285
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: take some reasonable dead cap to ultimately make that trade.

1286
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to say the Vikings are totally rebuilding,

1287
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: but they're not necessarily looking at a super Bowl or

1288
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: being Super Bowl contenders next season. He's one that I

1289
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 3: would really say, whatever you need to do to get

1290
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: him in here. The other options the AJ Brown won

1291
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: to me the fact that we were talking about average

1292
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: annual salary or value for Juwan Jennings being twenty three million,

1293
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: it's thirty two million for AJ Brown. So you're trading

1294
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 3: an early draft pick, You're getting a twenty nine year

1295
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: old AJ Brown who is an elite receiver. You're paying

1296
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 3: him a ton of money, you're spending it's costing you

1297
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: draft capital, and are you only getting like two new

1298
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: high level years for him. I think a big reason

1299
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: that the Stefan Diggs trade worked out so well for

1300
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 3: Buffalo was that Stefan Diggs was six twenty seven years old.

1301
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: He was like in the prime of his career, and

1302
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: that the Bills saw that at thirty thirty one he

1303
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: started to have that decline and he had a pretty

1304
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: good season with the with the Texans after that got hurt,

1305
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 3: had a good season in New England, but then in

1306
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs was really nowhere to be found. I think

1307
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 3: you do have to weigh Yes, we like the the

1308
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: surefire element of an AJ Brown or a Justin Jefferson,

1309
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: but how old are those players? Have they already shown

1310
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: some signs of slowing down because we are going to

1311
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: be kind of double dipping in terms of we're spending

1312
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: a lot of money instantly right away on this player.

1313
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: We're spending draft capital.

1314
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: And then the third part is that you know those

1315
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: players are not twenty six, twenty seven years old.

1316
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: CJ says, get one a free agency or a trade,

1317
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: and then grab a wide receiver in rounds four or five.

1318
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 2: They need depth as well as starter material. The Bills

1319
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: are in a win now mode, hoping a prospect from

1320
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six draft will be immediate impact is naive.

1321
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: You do have to kind of weigh both things, like

1322
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: do you if you're all in on getting a wide

1323
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: receiver in the twenty twenty six draft, it's not a

1324
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure fire away that this guy is

1325
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: going to be a huge difference maker for the Bills

1326
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: in his rookie season. So that's why it does make

1327
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: sense to like supplement, like go get one in the draft,

1328
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: but also make sure you get one or two and

1329
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: free agency to really help you out.

1330
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think unless it's a first

1331
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: rounder or the Bills feel good about or feel great

1332
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 3: about a second rounder who falls to them at wide receiver,

1333
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: should they expect that guy to come in and be

1334
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 3: a thirteen hundred yard receiver as a rookie. No, that

1335
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 3: doesn't happen a ton. But even looking back to twenty

1336
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: twenty with this team, Gabe Davis had thirty five catches

1337
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: for almost six hundred yards in his rookie season on

1338
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: an offense with Stefan Dag's, John Brown and Cole Beasley,

1339
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: where he was fourth in the wide receiver pecking order

1340
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: catching passes. So you can get and with Josh Allen

1341
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: assume all right, we're picking this second or third rounder.

1342
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: We're investing a reasonably high pick at wide receiver. We

1343
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: can expect five six, seven, eight hundred, nine hundred yards

1344
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: if we throw the football his way enough. And usually

1345
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: those early picks are those guys that you do feel

1346
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: good about throwing sixty seventy eighty ninety one hundred times

1347
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: in a season.

1348
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: And every once in a while there is.

1349
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 3: A Jackson Smith and Jigba or a Garrett Wilson or

1350
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 3: Chris o'lave that do hit the ground running in the NFL.

1351
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: Mike Evans back in twenty fourteen, Sammy Watkins had a

1352
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 3: really good rookie season here in Buffalo in twenty fourteen.

1353
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: You do find those players occasionally. But of course aj

1354
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: Brown a Justin Jefferson, if Mike Evans hits the free

1355
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 3: agent market and they signed him, they would feel better

1356
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: about the floor of that player right away. And it's

1357
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: really you have to just tell me how you're viewing

1358
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: this team or this transaction short term, go all out

1359
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: pushed in all the chips to win the Super Bowl now,

1360
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: or have a player that can be more cost effective

1361
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 3: and can grow with Josh Allen as he's entering his thirties.

1362
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: When you're looking at wide receiver and what's available in

1363
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: the draft or free agency, thinking about the draft and

1364
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 2: kind of painting the picture of this twenty twenty six

1365
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, what we can expect wide receiver position group?

1366
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: What does it look like? Is this a good draft

1367
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: for wide receivers? Can the Bills even find a serviceable

1368
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: wide receiver, whether that be in the first, second, third,

1369
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: or fourth rounds.

1370
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 4: So it's I think it's a really good class.

1371
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: It's the position that I've watched the most prospects in

1372
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: the eighty eight that I've watched so far that I've

1373
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 3: been nerding out watching film. There's no Molikue Neighbors. There's

1374
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: not a Marvin Harrison junior. There's not a Jalen Waddle,

1375
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I mean, maybe we will see a receiver

1376
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 3: go inside the top ten. That wouldn't shock me. The

1377
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 3: top of the class is very good. And then I've

1378
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: watched I think I could look right here. I've watched

1379
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: about twenty of them. I feel like I say this

1380
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 3: every year, but there from end of round one until

1381
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 3: I think as far as early round four, we will

1382
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: see three to five receivers in two or three years

1383
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: where we're.

1384
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 4: Like, oh, they should have been first rounders.

1385
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 3: So the class there is very very good. Where there

1386
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 3: have been classes where the Bills have probably felt man

1387
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: picking at thirty or picking at twenty eight or twenty seven,

1388
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: there's just not great talent there at that point. Four

1389
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: or five receivers are all going to go a way earlier.

1390
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: I think there is going to be and a lot

1391
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: of this could change at the combine, but there will

1392
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 3: be some quality future wide receiver ones that will be

1393
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 3: available late in the first round for the Bills, and

1394
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 3: there's a history of it. I mean JSN was the

1395
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 3: twentieth pick, Zay Flowers twenty two, Jordan Addison twenty three.

1396
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: I was just looking at this off air. Garrett Wilson

1397
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: Chris o'lavey would be the earlier they were picks ten

1398
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 3: and eleven, but you also had Christian Watson was a

1399
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 3: thirty fourth pick. There have been players like Brandon Aiyuk

1400
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 3: twenty fifth pick. So there it's not as though the

1401
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: Bills can never find anyone or you know, Marquise Brown

1402
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 3: twenty fifth pick, Deebo Samuel thirty six pick, aj Brown

1403
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: fifty first pick, so you can get those players later

1404
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: in round one. Of course, throughout history, the best wide

1405
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: receivers have gone earlier in the draft. But to think

1406
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: that man at twenty six, there's just there's no more

1407
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: talent left would be silly. I think the Bills can

1408
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: still get a difference maker who starts at seven hundred

1409
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: to nine hundred yards as a rookie, and then by

1410
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 3: year two you're like, hey, we feel great. We have

1411
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 3: rebuilt the core of our wide receiver room by making

1412
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 3: this early round selection on a wide receiver.

1413
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: Moving out of just wide receiver. This twenty twenty six

1414
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: draft class, what is it about? Where are the strengths?

1415
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 2: Where are some of the limitations with this draft class?

1416
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll start with limitations. Quarterback is really bad.

1417
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: It's bad.

1418
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Fernander Mendoz is a really good player. He's

1419
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: on on film. He doesn't have the Caleb Williams traits

1420
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: or the Trevor Lawrence traits or Andrew Luxes rattling off

1421
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: some former number one overall picks. A quarterback, He's gonna

1422
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: go number one. He probably should. He's closer though, to.

1423
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 4: Cam Ward than to a Kayleb Williams.

1424
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: The rest of the quarterback class is bad. Like, I

1425
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: don't know how many more we're going to see on

1426
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: the first two days of the draft. Ty Simpson from Alabama,

1427
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: probably Garrettnssmeyer, maybe in the second or third round. I

1428
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: don't love him on film. Running Back Jeremiah Love is awesome.

1429
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 3: He's probably going to go in the first round, even

1430
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 3: though I'm not a huge fan of that in general

1431
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: as a draft philosophy. But very explosive, very productive. He

1432
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: should go reasonably early. The rest of the running back class, eh,

1433
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: But circling it back to the Bills, it's a very

1434
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 3: good wide out class.

1435
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 4: I just mentioned. The edge class is loaded.

1436
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a bunch of edge rushers that go

1437
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 3: reasonably early, and I could see six, seven, eight of

1438
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 3: them going in the first round.

1439
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 4: So if the.

1440
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: Bills do something else that wide receiver and free agency

1441
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: or the draft or via trade edge rush, sure we'll

1442
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: be ripe for them at twenty six and in the

1443
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: second round. It's also early on, and I'm not all

1444
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 3: the way through, but early on. It's the best safety

1445
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: class that I've ever scouted. And I started like twenty thirteen,

1446
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, safety class is absolutely loaded defensive line, eh

1447
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 3: so in bringing that all back around, a lot of

1448
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 3: the positions that the Bills need that are the clear

1449
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 3: cut biggest needs. Chris and I talked about it yesterday,

1450
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: like prioritizing the biggest needs were safety, wide, receiver, and edge.

1451
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: Those are three of the strongest positions in this twenty

1452
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: twenty six draft class.

1453
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: Oooh, that gets me excited.

1454
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 4: And I'm sure Brandon Bean's excited about it too. I'm sure.

1455
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the scouting department, I mean, maybe they

1456
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 3: don't fully agree with my assessment there, but there are

1457
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: a lot of blue chip caliber prospects and great depth

1458
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 3: at safety, wide, receiver, and edge in this class.

1459
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 2: I love it. Edge makes me think of the linebacker

1460
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: class two. And this is you know, going through some

1461
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: of these mock drafts, you're seeing some linebackers go off

1462
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: the board in the first round. Now, outside linebackers slash

1463
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: edge depending on where you play them in your defense

1464
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: and what defense you run. What is your philosophy on

1465
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 2: drafting a linebacker in the first round.

1466
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 3: It's such an interesting position for me to think about

1467
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 3: and talk about. Because I said this to Chris yesterday,

1468
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 3: I think when your defense has a really good or

1469
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 3: especially two really good off ball linebackers, and the Bills

1470
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 3: had it for a long time with Matt Milano Tremaine Edmonds,

1471
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 3: even then transitioning to Terrell Bernard, you feel that that

1472
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: they do so many different things. They cover, they blitz,

1473
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: they have to get off blocks, they stop the run.

1474
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 3: They're playing usually around one hundred percent of the snaps.

1475
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: And if you look around the league, typically the best

1476
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: defenses have.

1477
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 4: Really good linebackers.

1478
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: Would I put it near the top of the list

1479
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,480
Speaker 3: of where I prioritize in the first round? Not necessarily,

1480
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: And you hinted at earlier we're talking about the edge

1481
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: rusher class, the wide receiver free agent class. How much

1482
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: those positions have exploded in terms of final nances. The

1483
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 3: linebacker class or the linebacker position has not. So you

1484
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,480
Speaker 3: do have to weigh, all right, we're drafting this linebacker

1485
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: in the first round.

1486
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 4: He has a.

1487
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 3: Fully guaranteed deal that's pretty cheap, but it's not ridiculously cheap.

1488
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 3: How much of a difference are we in like, how

1489
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: much savings are we getting by drafting him here and

1490
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: getting a really good player, hopefully for four years, as

1491
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 3: opposed to paying a Roquan Smith or Tremaine Admins twenty

1492
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars a year, and there's not as

1493
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 3: big of a golf as there is at edge rusher,

1494
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: offensive tackle, certainly not quarterback or wide receiver.

1495
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a very important conversation to have

1496
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: when you're thinking about drafting someone in the first round

1497
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: and what contracts are in today's NFL and how much

1498
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: you can save on a rookie contract based on what

1499
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: your salary cap is in the current season and what

1500
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: it will be for the foreseeable future in terms of

1501
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: salary cap numbers. You said three h five this season.

1502
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: Is that what you expected? Based on that now number?

1503
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: Do you believe the Bills will have some room to

1504
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: move things around? I know, you know it's not set

1505
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 2: in stone right now, and the Bills will have to

1506
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: do some work to get under the cap. But three

1507
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: h five bigger than you thought, less than you see.

1508
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: It's a little higher than what was expected.

1509
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: Toward the end of the season, you start to hear

1510
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: some like rumblings, all right, like this is what the

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 3: sailor CAP's going to be. I think teams thought it

1512
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 3: was going to be, right or like up like two

1513
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: ninety five three hundred, so it's not like it's drastically higher.

1514
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: But again you do have to factor that into where

1515
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 3: it was four years ago, where it was two hundred million,

1516
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: And it's something that we haven't talked about it a lot.

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01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: Why it was so smart for Brandon Beanan Company to

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01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: lock in Greg Russo, Christian Benford, Khalil Shakir, Terrel Bernard

1519
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: last offseason because as those players enter their primes and

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: are twenty six twenty seven, and they're under contract in

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, those deals just

1522
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: become bigger bargains as the sailor cap continues to expand.

1523
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: So it's always smarter to get ahead of those deals

1524
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 3: those core players that you really like to sign them

1525
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: a year earlier, as opposed to like what the Cowboys

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 3: have traditionally done, like waiting all the way till the

1527
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: end for Deck Prescott, waiting all the way until the

1528
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,520
Speaker 3: end for Michael Parsons and then having to trade Michael Parsons.

1529
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 3: So that is really good GMing to get those players

1530
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: under contract. As a sailory cap continues to go.

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Speaker 2: Up, we're taking a break, but when we return. More

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Speaker 2: draft talk next on One Bill's Live. We're presented by

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Speaker 2: Bill's Drive. All right, we're back here on One Bill's Live.

1545
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: Matti Glave alongside of Chris Trapasso. We were just talking

1546
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: about drafting certain position groups in the first round based

1547
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: on salary on the open market versus what you're saving

1548
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: for getting a rookie at a rookie deal. Linebacker is

1549
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: a position group that I've already seen mock to the

1550
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills at number twenty six, along with other position groups,

1551
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: But linebacker is a position group where it's like ding

1552
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: ding ding. Is it worth drafting a linebacker in the

1553
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: first round based on what linebackers are currently paid on

1554
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: the open market? It's not a position group that has

1555
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: kind of made this big boom into the market where

1556
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: you're seeing guys get paid a lot of money. You're

1557
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: seeing that out of your wide receivers, You're seeing that

1558
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: out of defensive ends, you're seeing that out of cornerbacks.

1559
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 2: So that makes sense to draft a guy in the

1560
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: first round because you are inevitably saving some money. How

1561
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: do you compare those numbers?

1562
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're pretty striking.

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01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: And to answer your first question, like does it make

1564
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 3: sense to draft a off ball linebacker in the first round,

1565
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: what I would say to that, it's not about me.

1566
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 3: The NFL would tell you no. There have been two

1567
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 3: first round linebackers the past three drafts. Jahad Campbell was

1568
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 3: the thirty second pick or thirty first pick last year

1569
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,879
Speaker 3: by the Philadelphia Eagles. There was no off ball linebacker

1570
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: selected in twenty twenty fourth first round, and in twenty

1571
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 3: twenty three only Jack Campbell of the Lions was picked

1572
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 3: as an off ball linebacker in the first round, the

1573
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 3: numbers are striking. So if we are looking at fully

1574
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 3: guaranteed deals for the top of the market at linebacker

1575
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 3: compared to Jahad Campbell, it's not that big Jahad Campbell's

1576
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: rookie deal as a first round pick, they are fully

1577
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: guaranteed for those first rounders. He has almost fifteen million

1578
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,879
Speaker 3: dollars fully guaranteed when he was picked by the Eagles

1579
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: on that four year contract, so almost fifteen million. The

1580
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 3: top of the linebacker position right now entering the twenty

1581
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 3: twenty six league year Rokwan Smith's forty five million, So

1582
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: the difference is fifteen to forty five. If we compare

1583
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 3: that to wide receiver, it is drastically different. I will

1584
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 3: use last year's first round wide receiver picked at selection

1585
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: number twenty three, Matthew Golden his first his rookie deal,

1586
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: his first contract in the NFL, has seventeen point five

1587
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 3: million fully guaranteed.

1588
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 4: The top of.

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: The wide receiver market at fully guaranteed justin Jefferson at

1590
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 3: almost eighty nine million. So compare forty five million to

1591
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 3: eighty nine million, you get a drastically bigger savings. If

1592
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: you hit on a first round wide receiver compared to

1593
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: if you hit on a first round linebacker, and that

1594
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 3: is something that I don't think it's brought up enough.

1595
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm starting to see it on a couple other podcasts

1596
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: things here and there.

1597
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: It's important to keep that in mind.

1598
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,919
Speaker 3: It's not to say that you can't pick a linebacker

1599
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: in the first round, but you just get a much

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: bigger savings on other positions like wide receiver, like offensive tackle.

1601
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 3: Of course, quarterback is the one that we mostly hear about,

1602
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: but compared to safety and tight end and linebacker, the

1603
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: top of the market is just not that much more

1604
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 3: expensive than what you are paying a first round pick

1605
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: on that rookie deal.

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01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: It's something that scout teams considered. Yeah, scouting departments have

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 2: to think about, especially if you're paying a quarterback and

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: you're paying a left tackle, and you're paying other parts

1609
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: of your roster. Christian Benford is under contract, Gregorussoe is

1610
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,839
Speaker 2: under contract. You have these position groups that are deemed

1611
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: expensive groups to pay, and you're paying some of these

1612
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: players When you have one of the best quarterbacks in

1613
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: the NFL, he's going to have a really big salary.

1614
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: So you're trying to find ways to make things work,

1615
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: and by drafting a rookie at a premier position group,

1616
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: you inevitably do save money. Is that the reason why

1617
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: you decide to draft a wide receiver or an edge

1618
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: rusher in the first round. No, but it is part

1619
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: of the conversation at the end of the day.

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01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: And then if we're looking at safeties, it's pretty similar safety.

1621
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 3: Malachi Starks, the Baltimore Ravens first round pick last year.

1622
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: His rookie deal has sixteen point five million dollars fully guaranteed.

1623
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: The top of the position is Kyle Hamilton, his teammate ironically.

1624
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 4: Forty eight million.

1625
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: So when you're looking at eighty eight million to forty

1626
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 3: million down somewhere in the teens, the difference is almost

1627
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: it's almost twice as big of a golf that you

1628
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: get in terms of savings to hit on that first

1629
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 3: round pick. I will say in general, it's kind of

1630
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: like parallel to me in my head to the conversation

1631
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: of three four five FO or three getting a good

1632
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 3: football player. If you hit on your linebacker, it's going

1633
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 3: to help your team on the field, but you do

1634
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: have to factor in the finances just like you have

1635
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 3: to factor in size, length forty times, all of that

1636
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: when you're trying to decide should we pick this player,

1637
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 3: should we not? Is he a second round or first rounder?

1638
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: But I do think it is important that when you're

1639
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: talking about the draft, it's not strictly about that player's

1640
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: position what he can do on the field. I do

1641
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: think they have the numbers guys in the back of

1642
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 3: the war room saying we can actually save more money

1643
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 3: if we hit on a offensive tackle or a receiver,

1644
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: or a quarterback, or maybe even a defensive tackle as

1645
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 3: opposed to those three positions safety, tight end, or linebacker.

1646
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely dipping back into our question for you today,

1647
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: would you rather go after a wide receiver in free

1648
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 2: agency or the NFL draft? Joseph says free agency players

1649
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: with a proven track record versus a coin flip of

1650
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 2: if they will work out or not. Trademarket is great too,

1651
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: but here you're to pay a big contract and lose

1652
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: a top draft pick. When thinking about free agency and

1653
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 2: what's available for wide receivers, we spoke about Juan Jennings

1654
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: and how he has a market value of like twenty

1655
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: two and a half million dollars. Is there a wide

1656
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: receiver that you believe is a good fit for Buffalo

1657
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: that's set to become a free agent, and who would

1658
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: that be.

1659
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 4: My pipe dream free agent? It's probably not going to

1660
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: excite a ton of listeners for viewers.

1661
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, before before you say this play, I don't want

1662
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: to guess, but what what do the Bills wide receiver?

1663
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 2: In your eyes?

1664
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 4: That's a good question. They need a legitimate.

1665
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: Separator A And that's not just separation ability deep. That

1666
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 3: is winning with suddenness, beating press of the line, winning

1667
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: underneath and at the intermediate level. When it is that

1668
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 3: third and eight, third, nine in the playoffs, you're up

1669
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: against a number one corner. Can you wiggle at the

1670
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 3: light of scrimmage and then you're faking to the outside

1671
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: and breaking back on a dig?

1672
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 4: Or what the route ass of you to create that half.

1673
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: Yard to yard of separation so Josh Allen can sing

1674
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 3: a seventy mile per hour fastball in there. That's what

1675
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 3: I think they need, more so than size and length

1676
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 3: and anything else. They have the yards after the catch

1677
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: specialist who is one of the best in football in

1678
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir having that ability as well with his receiver

1679
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: I think helps having some vertical element to your game,

1680
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 3: of course, but you can't just create the best wide

1681
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 3: receiver and say he's available for a cheap deal in

1682
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: free agency.

1683
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 4: It doesn't exist.

1684
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: My pipe dream that I think ticks all of the

1685
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: boxes not going to cost a ton can do a

1686
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: lot of the things that I just referenced, can win

1687
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 3: down the field. Has shown up in the playoffs is

1688
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs from the Green Bay Packers. He's only twenty

1689
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: five years old. He'll be twenty six next season. I

1690
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 3: have watched him develop from a vertical specialist at Nevada,

1691
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 3: and I remember scouting him in that same class with

1692
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir, thinking all right, he's going to be pretty

1693
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: good pro but mostly a downfield guy.

1694
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 4: And I've watched a lot of his film Green Bay.

1695
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 4: The last couple of years.

1696
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: He's become a really I don't want to say elite

1697
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: route runner, but I think he's been a very solid

1698
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 3: route runner at all three levels. He catches the football

1699
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 3: very well, there's out a drops issue, and in the

1700
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 3: playoffs he has three one hundred yard games in the postseason.

1701
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: There was one game where he was like I think

1702
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 3: he had like three catches for twenty seven yards. All

1703
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: the other games that he's played, his five or six

1704
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: playoff games have been very productive. He can win at

1705
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 3: all three levels. And I do think with Romeo Dobbs

1706
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 3: there is a glimmer of similarity between his situation in

1707
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 3: Green Bay and Stefan Digg's situation in Minnesota, where Diggs

1708
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 3: in his last season in Minnesota was upset about, hey,

1709
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm not getting the ball up. Throw the ball to

1710
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 3: me more. I'm really efficient when you do that. Last

1711
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 3: year or two years ago now, Romeo Dobbs had a

1712
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: little bit of an incident where he missed a game

1713
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 3: because he was upset that he wasn't getting the ball enough.

1714
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: And we know how much the Green Bay Packers like

1715
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 3: to spread the football around. So do I think Romeo

1716
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: Dobbs comes to Orchard Park in this hypothetical in my

1717
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: head and becomes the league leader in catches and receiving

1718
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 3: yards like Digs did in twenty twenty. Not necessarily, but

1719
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: I think you would be almost buying low on a

1720
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: player who is twenty five twenty six years old, that

1721
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: wasn't someone that was a target hog getting one hundred

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01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 3: and fifty targets in the NFL, but with around one

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01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: hundred to one hundred and twenty targets, I think can

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01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 3: like emerge as a wide receiver one with Josh Allen

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01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 3: throwing him the football right, I.

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Speaker 2: Like it six to two hundred and four pounds, So

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01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: we got some size there too. We got to take

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Speaker 2: a break. But when we return, closing things up here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Iver represented by clydelp on Buffalo Bills Radio, everybody,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's I have our question for

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01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: you today was about wide receivers. Would you rather go

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01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: after one free agency or in the NFL draft? Jesse says,

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01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 2: like Tasker said, we got to run back the offense

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01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: best we can, so get a wide receiver from the

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01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: trade and go all in on getting an All star

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01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: or two for the defense from the draft cheap labor.

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Speaker 2: As Tasker would say, Yeah, he definitely would say that.

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Speaker 2: I think an interesting perspective of all of this, too

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01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 2: is what will the offense look like in twenty twenty six?

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Are you going to go the route of letting James

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01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: Cook run the rock as much as possible and you're

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01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: more of a fifty to fifty split team or are

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: you interested in getting a wide receiver who is going

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01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: to take some of that workload off of James Cook.

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01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: And maybe it does go a little bit more pass

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: heavy than run heavy. You have the best rushing offense

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01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL. How does that change.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more going to be the latter that

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 3: you that you just referenced, because if it's now Joe

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01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Brady is running the show at LSU. In twenty nineteen

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01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 3: when he really stepped in to the limelight with Joe Burrow,

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson Jamar Chase, they threw the ball all over

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01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 3: the lot like Joe Burrow averaged thirty five pass attempts

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 3: per game, which in college is astronomically sixty touchdowns. All that,

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01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: and then in Carolina when Joe Brady got fired, their

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01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 3: head coach Matt Ruhle, I don't know if he said

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01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: this exactly on the record, but paraphrasing said he really.

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01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 4: Wanted to throw the football too much.

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01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: So I think the Bills will to try to keep

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: James Cook efficient and not run him into the ground

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01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 3: and get the most out of him for his last

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01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 3: two years of his deal, be a little bit more

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01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: pass happy in twenty twenty six and beyond.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting. Great conversation today, Chris, Thanks for joining the show.

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Speaker 2: We will be back tomorrow. We had a mock draft

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Speaker 2: watch just get posted, so check in on that Buffalo

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Speaker 2: bills dot com. We are talking about it tomorrow in

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Speaker 2: some different names on One Bill's Live. Join us then,