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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Draft show here from the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us. Dane Brugler, CBS Sports dot

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Speaker 1: Com contributed to Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman fine

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Speaker 1: writer from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Gentlemen, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another week of draft talk. Kind of quiet out there

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Speaker 1: right now, isn't it. It's the calm before the combine storm. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that too. About that combine, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have five shows from the combine starting Tuesday, well so

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Speaker 1: it'll be less crowded. Never thought that I would ever

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Speaker 1: see the Combine on TV. By the way, when I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there in nineteen ninety two, it's such a secretive thing.

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Speaker 1: What's blown up bigger the NFL Combine or National Signing Day? Like,

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Speaker 1: signing Day's gotten big, combines huge too. I remember I

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Speaker 1: was talking with Rick Goslin recently about this from the

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Speaker 1: fine writer from Dallas Morning News. He was one of

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Speaker 1: eight guys that used to cover the combine. Now we

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Speaker 1: have what a couple of thousands maybe, yeah, credential media.

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Speaker 1: Credential media guys like nine hundred last year. I think,

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Speaker 1: about we get close to the combine. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that today. A couple of different ways you can get

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Speaker 1: always the best way because we do. Kent Garrison, who's

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Speaker 1: that and when we do Twitter on the twenty that

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Speaker 1: well to kind of get your questions answered. Shows about

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to help you guys become better educated

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Speaker 1: fans of the Draft. Another way is to call us

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Speaker 1: at eight eight, eight, five, two, two nine seven numbers

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Speaker 1: today again, like to always try and interact with the fans.

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Speaker 1: Want to get into a couple of different things if

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Speaker 1: I could, gentleman, I think first I want to start

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Speaker 1: off with, is draft need our best available player? The

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Speaker 1: myth of that? Is it something you know? I want

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Speaker 1: to I want your thoughts on that because I've I've

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Speaker 1: say about that. BPA. Yeah, it's something that at least

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Speaker 1: For me, it depends on the team, depends on you know,

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Speaker 1: And so it's not a blanket answer for every single team,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's almost always best player available,

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Speaker 1: And I want to and then so I want to

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Speaker 1: gonna read a statement to you here and see if

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Speaker 1: you guys agree at this at all. The smartest NFL

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Speaker 1: general managers opt for best available player overneed, at least

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Speaker 1: in the draft's first three rounds. This leads to a

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Speaker 1: leads to an overall higher level of talent of the

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can separate that fact a good point.

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Speaker 1: Thank you ed Ka Hill for coming up with this

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Speaker 1: Here we go. I'm gonna put you on the spot

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Speaker 1: idea because we've kind of hinted at it. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people have Tim Williams and his baggage. What's going

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Speaker 1: on here, He's got a lot of it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the combine will be important for him

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Speaker 1: during the interview process. And he didn't go to the

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Speaker 1: a chance to meet with teams there. So when he

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Speaker 1: speed dating, that is the combine interviews. It's there's not

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be hey, why are you in the doghouse

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Speaker 1: so much? Yeah? Why? You know? Why did you know

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Speaker 1: coach Saban take you off the field? Why? Uh? You know?

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Speaker 1: It was this off field incident about you know what

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Speaker 1: about these rumors? Is this something that we have to

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Speaker 1: worry about? And there's gonna be a lot thrown at him,

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Speaker 1: and he needs to be ready for it. He needs

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Speaker 1: to be convincing because he has, in my opinion, top ten,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen talent, no doubt about that. Next to Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: he's my next best draft, next best rusher. He's so

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Speaker 1: fast and so fun to watch, is he? It sounds

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Speaker 1: like we're talking about another Randy Gregory? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it on that level? I think it's actually I don't

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Speaker 1: think we know yet. Yeah, but I was told the

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Speaker 1: more you dig, the more you find, the more you

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Speaker 1: get scared. Right, absolutely. But you know, if he interviews, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe he can convince. All it takes is one team.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, I don't think we really have a

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Speaker 1: good idea yet of how serious? I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: it's serious, but just how serious? Could it drop him

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Speaker 1: out of the first round? Could it drop him out

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Speaker 1: of you know, the top fifty? How far will this

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Speaker 1: knock him down? Right now? In my mock draft, I

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Speaker 1: have him going to number thirty two and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: picking up a pretty good player. So you go, rich

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Speaker 1: for Day, by the way, what his mock draft saying

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Speaker 1: that that way the relationship between Saban and Belichick, don't

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Speaker 1: discount that right at all, don't. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: one of those he will have the folder on this kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the coach Garrett here, you know, I'll have the folder too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they will too. But I think that that was one

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Speaker 1: of the things I wrote about in my reasoning for

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Speaker 1: that pick is Belichick will have all the information needed

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Speaker 1: for bridge over troubled water guys, that's where these guys

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Speaker 1: Shameless plug for Dane's CBS Sports mock draft, which we

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, Drever says, I saw that Dane mocked Carl Lawson,

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Speaker 1: the Auburn pass rusher to Dallas. What's his fit? Is

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Speaker 1: he left end? I think he's a right end. I

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Speaker 1: think he's you know, Brandon Graham with the Eagles, that

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Speaker 1: type of rusher. A guy who might not be the

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Speaker 1: most physically explosive player, but the way he uses his

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Speaker 1: lower body, he uses his upper body, his relentless nature,

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Speaker 1: the way he can break down the rhythm of blockers,

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Speaker 1: I think you have a very good player here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree at all. I'm a matter of fact

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Speaker 1: that it seems to be that everybody has kind of

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Speaker 1: got tack. And then they've got Harris mentioned in there

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Speaker 1: that Harris is a Rod Marinelli kind of guy. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: explain that a little bit well at the quick twitch

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Speaker 1: stuff and all that, you know, at that first first, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the great thing about being here at the Stars you

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that they said keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on that at Harris guy. He is an early mock

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Speaker 1: draft darling to the Cowboys. And that's where and it

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Speaker 1: might be too these Missouri guys have found a way

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Speaker 1: to come in the league and play. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so, but just keep an eye on that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm just again, that's that's having lunch with some guys

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that and really seeing. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I agree with Dane. And I'm just looking through

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Speaker 1: my notes right now because this guy plays at two

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Speaker 1: point stance, he puts his hand on the ground. I

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Speaker 1: saw a guy that can hold the point of attack,

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Speaker 1: strong with his hands, quick to get out so you

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Speaker 1: with his movement. You know, I didn't. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: a guy got knocked back hard to stop on the

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Speaker 1: inside charge. He's I mean, there's physically physically an impressive player.

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Speaker 1: His dad is like a physical trainer. So as a

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Speaker 1: senior in high school, yeah, he looked like an NFL

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Speaker 1: player physically developed. That's why you bring Dane on the show.

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Speaker 1: He knows stuff like oh no, he knows a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff, and I think the combine will be big

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Speaker 1: for loss. And just with the medicals. He missed almost

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Speaker 1: all of two fourteen, or all of two and fourteen

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Speaker 1: with an ACL right then almost all of twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: with a cracked hip, So what the medicals come back

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Speaker 1: at the combine would be important? And see yeah, and

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Speaker 1: also they can I saw where they kicked him down

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Speaker 1: inside and played some some nickel tackle three techniques, soaps

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Speaker 1: what I like to hear. Yeah, that's that's one of

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Speaker 1: those things when again you're talking about Marinelli and those guys,

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Speaker 1: they look for the guy that could play in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: How many different spots can you play? Can you play

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Speaker 1: left right, which we're trying to determine, and can you

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Speaker 1: play some nickel tackle? Those are all positive things, preferably

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Speaker 1: All yeah, all right, this one's fun. I want to

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Speaker 1: kind of put y'all on the spot. Johnny wants to know.

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Speaker 1: He said, are there any Travis Frederick like prospects? And

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Speaker 1: I take that to mean, you know, a guy that's

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Speaker 1: really not getting a lot of love as the top

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Speaker 1: of the draft guy, but not only might he go

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Speaker 1: there but actually be really good? Anybody that kind of

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Speaker 1: fits that description? Well brought us What about that UCLA

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Speaker 1: corner baby and Moreau? Yeah you like him quite a bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do like Fabing Moreau. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's in that mix and I and I

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Speaker 1: even I even kind of compared him to another Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve corner with Sidney Jones. I was trying to think

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Speaker 1: of where I was gonna put Fabian Moreau. He's he's

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Speaker 1: a guy UCLA corner that he's a yep. Receivers have

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Speaker 1: a hard time getting away from him, they really do.

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Speaker 1: And and when you play, when he plays off coverage,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a football intelligence. You could tell he

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Speaker 1: knows how to play zone. He could drive, he can

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Speaker 1: he defends the ball, he can high point ball. I

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Speaker 1: was very, very surprised because I've got to him kind

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Speaker 1: of late in this process, because of Lattimore, Tabor, White, Jones, Tankers,

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Speaker 1: Lee Jackson, Humphrey. You know, there's a lot of corner

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Speaker 1: I just named a ton of corners. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them can play. This kid right here though. He's borderline

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Speaker 1: first round ability, and I would not be surprised. Four

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Speaker 1: four three speed h a tick under six feet in

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Speaker 1: two h five. But you watch him play, he's pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good. So yeah, that would be a maybe nobody's

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Speaker 1: really talking about. But all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look up at the end of it, we get

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Speaker 1: first round guy. I think I think you mentioned about

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Speaker 1: what we've talked about Riddick, you know that. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: the first one to mention a WHOA wait a minute?

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Speaker 1: Is it a couple of draft shows ago, maybe even

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl teams are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: him as a first round guy. Oh, he is a

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Speaker 1: first round and that and that's where Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking right now. It started off as who's this guy?

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Speaker 1: So now it's like, WHOA wait a minute, Okay, where

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Speaker 1: in the first round is he gonna go? He's this

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Speaker 1: year's high fast riser, you know, I mean, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: talking about him as an end of first round guy

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Speaker 1: when the process first started, and then obviously he goes

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Speaker 1: too overall by the time it's all said, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you another guy real quick about can Cunning him from Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: I said last week he was one of my top five.

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Speaker 1: You said he was top five from everyone you've watched

639
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: for me, absolutely praise. I mean I this call me crazy,

640
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: which everybody will out there feel free. Brian brought us.

641
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: You can do that. But I'll tell you what. Watch

642
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: the Cunningham kid play at Vanderbilt outside lineback, but he

643
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: plays inside linebacker. You can play mouth. He never comes

644
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: off the field. And if you want to watch, if

645
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: you only have time to watch one game, watch Georgia, Georgia.

646
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: You watched the Georgia game, you'll say, Brian brought us.

647
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: You're a damn good scout. Make sure you watch it

648
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: into the final play. Yeah, exactly. I mean this is

649
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: a guy that makes stops, big stops, and he's always

650
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: on the field. It's a great segue to a question

651
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: from Thomas. I feel like we've kind of ignored it. Um,

652
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: linebacker twenty eight? Where where's this guy fitting? Where's Cunningham fitting? Where?

653
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: What about? I think he goes a lot earlier than

654
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight myself, I've got him, got him at one two,

655
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: You got me two, I've got him my one eighteenth.

656
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Overall around there, I think he fits somewhere in the

657
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: back half a round one. I think he could be there.

658
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it's it's possible. Um. But talking about Reddick, Yeah,

659
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: you like Reddick better than Cunningham. Um, they're so close

660
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: for me. They're very close, I see, because Reddick can rush.

661
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: You could put Reddick's fan in the dirt and go.

662
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: I have seen the thing with Reddick is I had.

663
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I was high on him, by the way, real quick.

664
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: Reddick Temple is who we're talking about here, people. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

665
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I was high on him before the Senior Bowl. Um,

666
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: but not as high as I needed to be, just

667
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: because he was a projection. Right go to the Senior Bowl.

668
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: We see him play off the ball, play in space,

669
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a few hiccups, but his

670
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: athleticism he can just he can make up for so much. Yeah,

671
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: and so I think that Reddick is going to be

672
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: a chaisier type of prospect. Good name that was at fourteen,

673
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: I believe or fourteen Yeah exactly. So I think Reddick

674
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: is going to be somewhere in that top twenty five.

675
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: And if he would fall to twenty eight, that'd be

676
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: a tough guy to pass on. There you go. Friend

677
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: of the show from blogging the Boys landing, he wants

678
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: to land. He wants to know which position group talking

679
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: about depth here, which position group could you wait the

680
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: longest to draft and still get a quality player? Corner receiver. Yeah,

681
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I love this cornerback class for whatever. It's great, it's awesome.

682
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: I just you know you're talking about guys you can

683
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I could go down into sing to the

684
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: third round, fourth round you can get if you can

685
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: get in the Witherspoon kid from Colorado, you can get

686
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: him in the fourth round. Yeah all day. Yeah. Um,

687
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: but wide receiver, I think that's I need to watch him.

688
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: You you you tweeted that out about Witherspoon, the kid

689
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: from Colorado. I need to I need to see that one.

690
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: That might be another Pac twelve corner. I have to

691
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: look at he's he's pretty good. Um, but corner or receipt?

692
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: What do you think do you think that those two

693
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: positions or is it the defensive ends? You can make it.

694
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: You could make an argument for pass rusher U wide

695
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: receiver makes sense. I think a lot of these wide

696
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: receivers getting get pushed into the third, fourth round that

697
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: might go a little bit higher. Guys like right Carlos Henderson,

698
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: law tech player. Though you know he's a guy that

699
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: on tape might be a second or third rounder who

700
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: might be able to get in a third or fourth Yeah.

701
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: So you know, I think the wide receiver position. It

702
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense tight end. It's a deep group,

703
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: but I think those guys might come off the board

704
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: quickly in the second or third round. I'm not sure

705
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: you could wait till the fourth and still get your guy.

706
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: It depends on who you like. You know, like a

707
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Leggett. I think he could be available. God, I

708
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: wish he played better as how big he is. I

709
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: said this before he gets down the but you know

710
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't always play big as a blocker. Oh No,

711
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's I think he's a blow average blocker,

712
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: and I don't I really don't see him getting much better.

713
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm not a believer in

714
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Legott as much as other people are. I'm with

715
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: you on this. By the way, how much more time

716
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: we got? How about one more question? Okay, then I'm

717
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do the professional thing. DC Nation. Yeah.

718
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't like it when they don't have their name.

719
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: It feels cheap, but it's okay. Um, we didn't see D. D.

720
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Westbrook at the Senior Bowls, right. Disappointing obviously, but just

721
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of your thoughts on him. Range he's got some

722
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: baggage too. Um, a couple of rest I think we

723
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: need to go to Oklahoma's pro day, by the way, Yeah,

724
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: and we might, especially with Joe Mixon not being at.

725
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: Let's let's go, let's go to Let's go, let's make it.

726
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: Norman Trick, get on up to Norman, Dana watch, We're

727
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna watch a little pro day up there, because there's

728
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be about. I think everybody will be there.

729
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: I think all thirty two will probably be there for

730
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: this group. I think, good bet. Yeah. But with Westbrook,

731
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: he's got he's got his own baggage and stuff that

732
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about eager to see his official

733
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: weigh ins one seventy five right now? Right does he

734
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: break one eighty? Yeah, he's the question, right. Um, I

735
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: think probably nine will probably be one seventy five to

736
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: one eighty range. Uh, expecting the run off forty three.

737
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean he can fly. He's that type of athlete,

738
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: so you know, expecting to run really well on tape.

739
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: He can take the top of the defense you look

740
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: at it, and of course on the big twelve and

741
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: that offense and uh, you know that factors in. But

742
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: he had twelve touchdowns this year of at least forty yards. Yeah,

743
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: that's an unbelievable number. So Shepherd from the Giants is

744
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: a better player, right, better overall player, better route runner.

745
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: But Westbrook is a better home run hitter, right. And

746
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: we saw what will Fuller how high he went in

747
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: the draft last He's not a singles and doubles hitter.

748
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: He's a home run hitter. And that's the same thing

749
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: with Westbrook. He's a home run guy who even if

750
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: you're not going to go deep to him, he at

751
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: least stretches out that secondary and opens up underneath holes

752
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: for other guys. So Westbrook there's a lot of value there.

753
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: But again he has his baggage. How much is he

754
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna weigh? I mean can It's a guy you can

755
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: even trust going over the middle because if he gets

756
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: popped you have to worry about he's gonna be a

757
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: hold up physically. So the combined to be pretty important

758
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: for d D. Westbrook, not just what are you gonna

759
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: run in the fort yard dash, but the interviews and

760
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: then you know the h what he measures in at

761
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: and then the medicals. So second round player, I mean, yeah,

762
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I know I had him right in the mix. So there,

763
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, because I saw the Penn State kid Godwin, Yeah,

764
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: and I kind of liked him, and I like Cooper

765
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Cup from Eastern Washington. I mean, these are like second

766
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: round kind of guys. To me. What should think about

767
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Ford from Virginia Tech. I was just about to mention

768
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: him because I think that second round is kind of

769
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: crowded right now. It's it's those names right Ard to

770
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: stack them like, you know, Forard, Virginia Tech, Cooper Cup,

771
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington, Godwin, Penn State, Westbrook, potentially Oklahoma. I've got

772
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: another one in there, Chad Hanson from cal Okay. That's

773
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: what I need to watch. Yeah, I think those guys

774
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: in that second cow keeps pumping out these quality receivers, man,

775
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: yeah do and this guy he can run. Um. So

776
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I the second round how you stacked them, I'm not

777
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: sure yet how, but right now I leaned towards Westbrook

778
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and then Ford at the top. I think westbrookie have

779
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: your home run hitter. Ford you have, you know, the

780
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: very reliable target. But and then Cooper Cup after that.

781
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: But I mean we're talking about very good receivers here.

782
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: I listed it as Ford Cup Godwin in Westbrook, and

783
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I did. The reason I put Westbrook for is because

784
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: of all the questions. Yeah, maybe we take that trip

785
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: up to Norman and take a look at these guys,

786
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: will figure this investigating educate absolutely. Okay, one last quick

787
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: one just uh okay from well from friend of the

788
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: show and Dallas Morning News writer John Mashoda, who hello

789
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: John State. Also the most avid Florida States he is.

790
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, good luck Duke basketball tonight against

791
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He just wanted to know why is Dalvin

792
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Cook so much better than Leonard Fournette. So oh he's

793
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: he's hammering. He's the Florida State guy hammering to LSU. Guys,

794
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: have enough time. We'll see about that. See about that.

795
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: I take complete back. Well one que One thing that

796
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Nita mention is fumbles. I release my the fumble rates.

797
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: I do this every year where I tracked down every

798
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: single fumble every single top thirty running backs in his class.

799
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: I tracked down every single fumble their entire career and

800
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, figure out their fumble rate based on offensive touches.

801
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: And Dalvin Cook had one of the worst fumble rates

802
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: this year. Fumbling one set. I love the player too.

803
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Let me find it um or complete guy. Though I

804
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: like as a runner, I like Cook. I like Cook.

805
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I think you have to I think I think that

806
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: Fournette has to have a little bit of some space

807
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: to get going. I don't see a creator that Cook's

808
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: the creator's mixing. Look Oklahoma with Cook. There are three

809
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: main issues. The fumbling, which he fumbled once every sixty

810
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: three offensive touches. So if he is touching the ball

811
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, twenty times a game. That's a fumble every

812
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: three games. Not what you want to see. Oh that's

813
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: not from a guy that you're going to be relying

814
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: on to be a big play threat. So first it's

815
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: the ball security. Number two is pass protection. He's willing,

816
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: but he'll go. I think he's better than you're giving

817
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: you credit for. I have seen. I will show you.

818
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: I can show you five clips right now where he

819
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: just gets bowled over. Now, I could show you five

820
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: clips where you stoning guys. Okay, but all it takes

821
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: is five times, and that that you know Freeman missed

822
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: a big pick up in that game. The other day

823
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: they got the guys high tower. So yeah, he's willing.

824
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I just I think he's limited in that area because's

825
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds as another bas strength that

826
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: you want. Are you talking about You're about for Nett?

827
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Are you talk about No, No, I'm sorry, I'm talking

828
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: about Cook. Cook. Okay, carry on. It's like, all right, yeah,

829
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: but I got Fournette. I'm much more comfortable with and

830
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: pass bro What Yeah, dude, Fournette. I'm much more comfortable

831
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: with him and past Row than I am. Cook. You

832
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: disagree with that, I do. I think people people just

833
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: look for for stuff about Fournette like I mean, I'm

834
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: not and I'm not even arguing that Cook is a

835
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: better all around back looking for I'm looking for things

836
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: to people act like Fournette. Literally all he can do

837
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: is run the ball like he's not a He doesn't.

838
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: He didn't catch a lot of passes in college, but

839
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: he can and he's not a bad blocker. He might

840
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: not be the best, he wasn't given a lot of opportunities,

841
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: but there's times where he sits in there and doesn't

842
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: hit anybody. I mean, he's looking looking, not hitting anybody.

843
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm serious. I've seen him and I'm not busting him

844
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: because he's an ol shoe guy. His build and what

845
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him do it, I feel a lot more

846
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Speaker 1: comfortable that he'll get better in that area than I

847
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Speaker 1: do Dalvin Cook, who's two hundred and ten, two hundred

848
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Speaker 1: and fifteen pounds, and even though he's willing, he's just

849
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna get bowled over by a lot of these NFL rushers.

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00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's physics. I know we're off the

851
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: rail a little bit here, but I just I keep

852
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: noticing this trend where one of these guys buying you

853
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Speaker 1: Lynch today, you jerk. One of these guys is going

854
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Speaker 1: super high in a mock and then the other guy falls. Yeah,

855
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: and some people like for not better than Cook? What end?

856
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: But like it seems like a trend where one guy

857
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Speaker 1: goes top ten and the other guy waits till like

858
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Is that realistic? Well? My final thing on Cook,

859
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: and this kind of goes to what you're saying is

860
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: the shoulder issues. And this is something that I could

861
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: bad I agree with. I would not be shocked if

862
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook we fast forward to April and he's a

863
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: second round pick. Wouldn't be shocked at all because of

864
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: the shoulder issues. All Right, a guy he's not a hammer,

865
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, that's just not his his build, that's not

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Speaker 1: what he's meant to do. And with set surgeries in

867
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Speaker 1: his background, I can't get you to take mixing. I'm

868
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Speaker 1: not gonna ground you, maniac. No, No, not that early.

869
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: But there is a point where I would I would

870
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: take him. Yeah, we don't have to get in that discussion. Yeah,

871
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I would take you pretty much. I appreciate you. I

872
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Speaker 1: got you, Florida State guy. I don't know what the

873
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874
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480
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875
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Speaker 1: You guys are just looking for warts at this point.

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Speaker 1: That's doing Yeah, just yeah, you're trying to get these

877
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Speaker 1: Showboys back here from the SWBC Morgan Studios. Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Can't Garrison, Executive producer. Let's we've

921
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: got the last part of the show here. I want

922
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: to get into this. I want to give this as

923
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: much time as possible. David Hellman is going to have

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Speaker 1: a shopping cart and he's gonna push it through the aisles,

925
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna figure out to try and fill that

926
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: basket of players we're trying to I'm trying to find

927
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: us some championship players here, so I need you all

928
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: to be succinct. We kind of went off the rails

929
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I need this to be rapid fire.

930
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: I need the answers. I need players. Let's see ip

931
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: in grun on these guys or not, we'll go for it.

932
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: I want a physical cornerback, and I didn't get one

933
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: in the first round. I want him in the second round.

934
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Find me somebody. Tankersley. Yeah, that's the first one that

935
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: came in my mind too. A press man guy who

936
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: if you're gonna run a lot of zone, good luck.

937
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna ask a guy to get up

938
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: in the wide receiver's face and connect himself and just

939
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: stay attached to that receiver, get the route off balanced

940
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Tankersleezer guy. Tankers that's from Clemson. By cornerback. Yeah all right,

941
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: and now I'm going the opposite way. I actually got

942
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 1: my corner in the first I need the best pass

943
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: rusher that's still there in the sixties into the second round.

944
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: Best guy you like m second round guys. I don't

945
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: know if Harris stretches. I don't know Williams. I mean,

946
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Williams would be a Williams would be the best one.

947
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: But man, are we gonna go through that again what

948
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: we did with Randy Gregory. Nope, We're not. I don't

949
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: think so. I mean, let's just say, for the argument's sake,

950
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Williams goes top fifty. Yeah. Um for me, Rivers, maybe

951
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: he's in the conversation. Rivers would be a Youngstown We

952
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: gotta say these places. He's folks Youngstown stage. Yeah yeah.

953
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: Terrell Bash yeah, Terrell, bash him from all bash him

954
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: from Ohio would be a guy too. I like I

955
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: like that fit that. I do too, and I have

956
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: him over Rivers, by the way, I've got a solid

957
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: two on bash him. Yeah. I think he could be

958
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: available in the late second I think he would fit

959
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: as a right end in this scheme. I like that.

960
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: I like that fit in the bottom of the second round. Bash,

961
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: what about where do you see Charlton? Is he gonna

962
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: be a early Is he gonna be at early? He's

963
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: the first round first round guy. I didn't know if

964
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know if people saw him war as a

965
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: left end. I think he's a left end. I think

966
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: he's Justin Tuck. I think he's that type of player.

967
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: I think he can grow into that type of player.

968
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of Justin Tuck when I

969
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: saw him out a notre name. So I think Tuck

970
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: will get better. He's only a one year starter, so

971
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of room to grow.

972
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: He played injured a lot this year, so I just

973
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: don't see he might not be available at twenty eight. Yeah,

974
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: follow me on this. I feel way better about finding

975
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: a really good quality cornerback in the second round than

976
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: I do a pass rusher. True or false, I'd say

977
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: true true. I think because he's I think teams will

978
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: prioritize pass rush, so we'll see a lot more of

979
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: the edge rushers come off the board in the top fifty,

980
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: where not that corner is any less valued. But there's

981
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: so many of these dudes. Yeah, I mean this corner class,

982
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: you can go a dozen deep and still feel comfortable

983
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: with the guy you're gonna get in the second round.

984
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: Would we have to would you have to think about

985
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: maybe taking the Villanova kid in the second round there,

986
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: because you might have to hit it around early. You

987
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: keep saying that if you want a guy, you probably

988
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: have to go early. Do we have to think about

989
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're gonna have to probably think

990
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: about that. That's way too rich for me. Okay, there's

991
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: no chance I can't talk you into that when at all. Okay,

992
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: carry on. I'm tired of hearing about Howard and Joku

993
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: and Butt. I waited until day three to find a

994
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: tight end, but the Cowboys still need one. Go she in?

995
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: Who she in? Oh? Ashley, So you're thinking about thirt

996
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: mean you're thinking about I have him. I have him,

997
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: like it is really a fourth round guy. But I'm

998
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: thinking that you have to go a little bit. There's

999
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: your blocker, big guy catcher. Yeah, Division two. I mean

1000
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a What do you think? What about Gerald

1001
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: Everett from South Alabama? I think he could fall that far. Yeah,

1002
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: but he's a little bit smaller guy, right. What was

1003
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: his miserables too? He came in an under size by

1004
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: two twenty seven yea saying that during the year he

1005
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: was playing up towards two forty. So I mean, I

1006
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: think I liked it. I like the athlete though, oh yeah,

1007
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna test really well at to combine another guy

1008
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: I really like who is probably gonna be there at

1009
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: the end of the third John U. Smith, Florida International

1010
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: tight End. I would take between the two. You take this,

1011
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: you take Smith, I'd lean Everett, lean Everett, and then

1012
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Smith I have him. I have a solid three on

1013
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Everett and the three to four on Smith. Okay, then

1014
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: a four on our Ashland tight end. I kind of

1015
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: like the Ashland guy. So this tape is good, but

1016
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: he's face and dentists, so hey, you know what that's okay?

1017
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: It is? Hey, well, hey, we gotta figure this out.

1018
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: He's is the two hundred and seventy five pounds and

1019
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna run well, and he's gonna run really and

1020
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: he catches the ball and he's and he will block.

1021
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: I was honestly thinking, like, this kid from Ohio is

1022
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: probably not a big enough school for Will McClay to

1023
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: one him. Let alone something no no, no, no no,

1024
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: let me let me remind you what Will McClay and

1025
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: I asked him this question because people on Twitter were

1026
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: critical of Will McClay small school guys play. Will McClay

1027
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: looked at me and says, hey, I took a player

1028
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: and put a player on this roster from London that

1029
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: had no college experience. So I'll due respect to Will,

1030
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: but he didn't spend a draft pick on that guy. No, no,

1031
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: but he said, hey this he goes, it's about players,

1032
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: it's about players, But he goes, I will remind you

1033
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: that I did put a kid on this froster that

1034
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: had no college experience and was from London and no offense.

1035
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: Because I love London. We all love London. But he

1036
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: did remind me of that. Can he play? That's the

1037
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: question now always that's um, let's play the Laramie Tunsil

1038
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: game m offensive tackle, first round twenty eight? Is that

1039
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: even feasible? If let's say that's is it possible that

1040
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: that could be the BPA When you get to twenty eight?

1041
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Is there a guy you like in that range, kind

1042
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: of like the kid that went to Seattle last year?

1043
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: If they yeah, fitty see, I think these tackles because

1044
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: it is. I don't think it's any question the weak

1045
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: is class or position this year in this class, So

1046
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: I think these tackles are gonna get pushed up. So

1047
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that the best flowers, Yeah,

1048
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: like the flowers went to the Times. We're talking about

1049
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: Cam Robins, Yeah, Garrett Bowls from Utah. Yeah, Ryan Ramsick,

1050
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: that was ms me. He's the top guy. He's got

1051
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: some medical stuff needs to work out. But I think

1052
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: because it is such a weak position and all three

1053
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: two teams need tackle depth, so I think these guys

1054
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: you can get pushed up. I find it hard to

1055
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: believe that the best player available would be a tackle.

1056
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: And even if there was that situation where you know,

1057
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: say Ramsick, some teams maybe aren't comfortable with the medicals,

1058
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys are he's available at twenty eight, I still not.

1059
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm not pulling the trigger on do you think there's

1060
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: a better corner or a better defensive end potentially? Right?

1061
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: And see this this goes back to our original conversation

1062
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: about best player available. Need. We've invested so much on

1063
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and to me, I'm I'm putting those

1064
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: assets into another another position. That's just me. That's my

1065
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: that's the way I look at the situation. That to me,

1066
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin cute chick, he's he he's to me a

1067
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: bottom of the first round guy. I mean, and he

1068
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: left to those Wisconsin for some reason. He's Wisconsin offensive lineman. Well,

1069
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: and this guy's fascinating because he was a Division three

1070
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: player and he transferred to Wisconsin red shirt last year.

1071
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: He's been a bunch of places and so he just

1072
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: one year starter. Yeah, he was impressive. He was very impressive. Tape. Yeah,

1073
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: his tape is very good. I think Dane's point is

1074
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: well made. But at some point, I'm just like, man,

1075
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: this line is such a well oiled machine. And if

1076
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: and obviously you need pass rush and need cornerback, I

1077
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: get all that, but if you're in a situation where

1078
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: that's the best route, just let me keep my line. Badass,

1079
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: would you take? Would you? I mean, I mean no, no, no, no,

1080
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: no no. At some point, thinking about center guard that

1081
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: swing guy if you're if you're and they will need

1082
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: guard deaf and he gets from Larry Leaves, which we

1083
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: assume he will am I correct, and he's an LSU kid.

1084
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: Does he play? Do he play tackle? He played every

1085
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: position on six six you eight tall centers. I do.

1086
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: I'm keeping my guard. You don't need him to play

1087
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: center on this team, though, But though he could. Yeah,

1088
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: he could be your swing guy. They played three spots.

1089
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: The versatility is the key with him because he does

1090
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: have experience kicking out the tackle. He played guard fairly

1091
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: well to Senior Bowl, so you feel comfortable with his

1092
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: versatility to fill in at different spots. All right, listeners

1093
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: probably don't want to hear this, but I don't care.

1094
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna follow the Ron Wolf Daane Brugler strategy. Let's

1095
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: go quarterback. I want a lottery ticket quarterback, and I like,

1096
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: we're not. I'm talking fifth rounder later. I'm not talking

1097
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: about a premium pick. I want a quarterback that you

1098
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: can get me on day three that might turn into something,

1099
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: even if that's just trade mate. You haven't done these

1100
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks yet. No, that's my last group. That's the last one.

1101
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: I want to look at him back to back to

1102
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: back to back. Got a guy, Give me a guy.

1103
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: What about Chad Kelly from Ole Miss Oh, Machine Gun Kelly,

1104
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: the guy who off field. He's a train wreck like that.

1105
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: Why do we want to have a train wreck at quarterback?

1106
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: He can play and at some point if it clicks,

1107
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: beat twice. He beat exactly and so a player, you know,

1108
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's nephew. He's got the bloodline. If he's Jim Kelly,

1109
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm all in. You know how NFL teams love bloodline?

1110
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh sure they quarterback kicked out of Clemson, kick out

1111
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. And then then that's when

1112
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: the real trouble picked up. Yeah, and he got arrested

1113
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: a few times. It also has an ACL coming off

1114
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: an a CL and so that factors in the medicals

1115
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, with all that said, he's

1116
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: got an effortless arms arm and velocity's outstanding physically and mentally.

1117
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: The toughness is off the charts. You know, you feel

1118
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: good about the way he can move his athleticism. Um.

1119
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: So if I'm sitting there in a six or seventh

1120
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: round and you're taking a flyer there at six or seven, yeah, exactly.

1121
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: You know we're not talking about Yeah again, we're not

1122
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: talking about premium picks here. No, I'm talking six or

1123
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: seventh round. You know, you feel good about your draft class. Uh,

1124
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: he's out there and say, you know the interviews went

1125
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: okay with him. Um, you know, my team feels comfortable

1126
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: to a certain extent with who he is as an individual.

1127
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: I'll roll the dice on him and see what we got.

1128
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. Do you have somebody at one

1129
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: thirty five you would take at quarterback? Yeah, we don't

1130
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: pick one thirty five. No, I'm just saying, but that's

1131
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: the end of the round. That that's kind of the

1132
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: compensatory round. Yeah, and of the fourth. Yeah, you got

1133
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: somebody there. I see, like I have Nathan Peterman and

1134
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, but I think the pit kid right, yeah,

1135
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna go probably second or third,

1136
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: just because the quarterbacks didn't get pushed up. Um. Jared Evans,

1137
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech quarterback junior, came out earlier. Duco kids.

1138
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: Watch him throw to Ford a bunch. Yeah, he's he's

1139
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: so raw, incredibly raw. But I think he could be

1140
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: available and there's something there. There's upside that you can

1141
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: possibly develop. And he's not too different than Dak in

1142
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: terms of just a type of quarterback. They are movement, Yeah,

1143
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: need movement, you know, strong arm, can snap off throws.

1144
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: So I think that would make some sense, you know, fourth,

1145
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: fifth round, if he's available. I can feel our listeners

1146
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: screaming this into their listening devices right now. So I'm

1147
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna go get after it started. Cowboys started off Day

1148
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: three by taking Tapper last year, which we can get

1149
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: into that another time. But the Day three pass rushers

1150
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: sleepers guys that I mean, we're really focusing on the

1151
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: first two rounds right now. What about maybe some Day

1152
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: three gems that you like so far? Caraway do anything

1153
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: for you? No, how about Muhammad? I was about to

1154
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: bring him up Caraways, TCU, karawayts TCU. I'm sorry out there,

1155
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: TCU and Muhammad is the gentleman that didn't play last

1156
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: year at Miami al Quadeine Muhammad, Yes, I've heard this thing.

1157
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: There we go kicked out in August right before the

1158
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: season started. Yeah, for an offee incident. But this sucker

1159
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: can move. Yeah, he can really move. A pretty good athlete.

1160
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 1: Did you study him? I have? Would you think? I'll

1161
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: tell you what I like him. I like the fact

1162
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: that you can he can hand down, he can stand up.

1163
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of what we talked about

1164
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: with with Riddick, that that ability to do a couple

1165
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: of different things. I thought he was much better as

1166
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: a rusher than he was as really as a drop linebacker.

1167
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: But he's like two hundred and fifty pounds, eager to

1168
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: see what he waged, very eager to see what he wighs.

1169
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: What's he been doing the last year? Yeah, that's it

1170
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: always worries me. The guy has had a year off,

1171
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: But hey does Bryant he was off basically a year,

1172
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. But I think that

1173
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: if he comes in, the weight's good, the athletic ability

1174
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: to tape all that stuff is really good. So we'll see.

1175
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, that would be a top of the third

1176
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: day guy for me. And I think not that he's

1177
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: a sleeper or anything, but I think day Shawan Hall

1178
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: will be in that mixed Yeah, I don't disagree with

1179
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: you there. The more I watch him, the more I'm

1180
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of struggling with that. And I've seen him and

1181
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, where does he really fit? That's why

1182
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I had like Mohammed Hall caraway, you know, even with

1183
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: the you know the Wormly people talk about Wormly though

1184
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: as a guy, but he's a he's a three four

1185
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: defensive end. To me, I think he's a base is

1186
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: a base end in its four or four three? Yeah,

1187
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't see that pass rusher now

1188
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: Hobbit's the pass rusher, right, if you want a pass rusher,

1189
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: Wormley's not your guy. Okay, let me real quick here, KNT.

1190
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Do we have time? Thanks? You do we have time?

1191
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Do you get a caller? You have any calling? Anybody

1192
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: holding one? Lined up? We just hit twelve o'clock. Okay,

1193
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: so we have to move on from there. But yeah,

1194
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: like one more one way, good time? Yeah? Um. Safeties,

1195
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean we know that we know the top guys.

1196
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: We know Hooker and Adams. I'm thinking Baker, second round,

1197
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: third round, Baker, do anything for you? Or do we

1198
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: truly have one of those corners that could play safety?

1199
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: Desmond King, King, Quincy Wilson one of those guys. Yeah.

1200
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: I think King goes earlier than than where Dallas is picking.

1201
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: And the second yeah probably. Um. I think a guy

1202
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Josh Jones from NC State. Okay,

1203
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: I think he's going to test really well at the combine.

1204
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: If you squint really hard, I think you can see

1205
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: kind of a Jalen Amsy type of player. You know,

1206
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: he kind of did a little bit of everything, corner, safety, linebacker,

1207
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: excellent ball production. So I think with Josh Jones from

1208
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: NC state. Nobody knows or you know, no one's talking

1209
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: about this name right now. But I think I to

1210
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: the combine more people will Justin Evans from A and

1211
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: M and I mean that's people have been tweeting at

1212
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: me about Justin Evans. I need to watch him. I

1213
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen him. I do like the Connecticut safety though

1214
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: by that Where do you like him? Oh? I get

1215
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: him the third round. I struggle with him. He's so

1216
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: conservative sometimes so he does I mean, people would tell

1217
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: me he's kind of a side tackler. I don't. I

1218
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: see a physical guy. But there's a history of corners.

1219
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, see the safeties that are tall that have

1220
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: made it, and then there's the Patrick Bateses of the

1221
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 1: world that haven't made it. We'll need to talk about

1222
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: Justin Evans because he's a supreme athlete. He can move,

1223
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: he flies all over the field. He'll hit you just

1224
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: the mistackles are maddening, and it's something that for me

1225
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: as a safety or when I evaluate safeties, that's something

1226
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: that I really have a hard time getting over. All right, well,

1227
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: that's all the time we have. Thank jam Packs. Thank

1228
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: you very much Dave for putting that together. Really gain

1229
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I want to also thank Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Kick

1230
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: Garrison Executive produce. I also want to thank Ed K.

1231
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Hill for coming up with this idea many years ago.

1232
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: I want to thank Derek Eagleton as well for letting

1233
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: us do this, and then Taylor Stern for always pushing

1234
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: our stuff out there. We'll be back next week for

1235
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: another edition to the Draft Show. We appreciate all you

1236
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: out there for listening. Take care, We'll see you soon.

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