WEBVTT - Is it OK to wear outside clothes on your bed? 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:00.840 I'm Manny. 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:03.840 Noah, this is Devin, and this is no such thing. 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.840 The show where resettle our dumb arguments and yours by 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.920 actually doing the research. Today's question is it okay to 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.680 wear you're outside clothes on your bed. We go beyond 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.520 the vibes and actually sense up swabs to a lab. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.000 We have the results back from the lab. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:21.200 We can't wait. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.840 No, no, there's no no such thing, no such thing, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.840 no such thing. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:43.760 Okay. So this one, actually, Manny, came up at your 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:49.400 birthday party. We were talking about the podcasts and we 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.640 were asking people do you have any ideas that we 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.920 should you know, debate or talk about. And Jordan and 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.160 our good friend, was like, is it actually bad to 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.920 wear outside clothes inside? Like if you're on the train 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.360 and you have like clothes and you sit down your bed, 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.319 are you actually tracking in a lot of germs? Well, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.800 let's let me back up. Growing up, it was very 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.640 much a thing in my house where my parents would 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.240 be like they were like outside clothes and they were 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.959 like inside clothes. So if you went outside to play 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.319 in clothes when you if you came inside and you 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.520 were in for the day, yeah, you would change your 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.440 clothes because the clothes that you were previously wearing have 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.319 outside dirts in germs, and this. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.639 Is like no matter what you were doing, not like okay, 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.360 you were you know, in. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:41.240 The mud playing sports. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.720 No, yeah, this is just like not extreme, but you know, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.480 yeah exactly in the yard. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.800 Like going to school, right, like the clothes that you 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.360 wore to school if you were like and this is 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.120 not like okay, middle to day, I'm in the house 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.080 for two hours. I got to change the clothes. This 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.960 is like, okay, I'm not going out again for the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.200 you would put on inside clothes let's call I don't 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.120 know that they had a name. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.080 Just change your clothes. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.239 Yes, you wouldn't wear the same clothes you went to 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.760 school with to like hang out at night at home. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.920 And then there's also on top of that, like in 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:21.280 almost no situation would you ever wear your outside clothes 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.760 on your bed or sit in your bed wearing clothes 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.040 that you weren't outside. Those are rules I had grown up. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.359 I will say I didn't always follow those rules, right, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.960 Like I feel like college, in your dorm room, you 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.960 don't have like a couch, right, So it's like if 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.320 your friends come over, if you're hanging out, like people 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.040 just sit on your bed. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.800 Yep, I'm sorry in that headspace, are you thinking this 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.040 is bad and gross? But I just kind of don't 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.280 care right now? Or it was always you were just 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.000 following a rule your parents had. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.680 I would say, up until somewhat recently, I was just 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.240 following a rule that like we had growing up. But 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:08.280 now as a like a natural adult, now yeah, no, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:09.480 now I think it's gross. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.360 It's just gross. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:12.960 Like if you guys came over and sat on my bed, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.679 on your bed, I was like, Okay, what's going on here? No, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.400 I'm just going to assume that this was not a 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.040 thing in your house. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:26.200 No, No, I mean, speaking as a white man, Yeah, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.680 it just wasn't obviously it would only be like, okay, yeah, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.480 you're clearly dirty from something. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.880 So your parents never explicitly were like definitely not outside. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.880 Never a rule like that for like general yeah cleanliness 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:39.360 in that way. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.280 No, in my experience, it's you know, my mom always 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.840 wanted us to be clean, like come home, like shower, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.680 change clothes at times. But I don't think it had 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.560 to do with like germs that came from outside that 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.560 are now on the furniture or the bed. It was 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.280 more like you stink. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.080 Like did you ever get the you smell like outside? 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:10.000 Yes? 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.680 And that was when I when we played you know, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.760 all my siblings played for its growing up, and so 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.720 like that's a little different than just commuting somewhere. But 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.920 like that's to me, when you would smell like outside 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.760 is like sitting in the hot sun or whatever. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.440 Yeah, you're doing an outside activity. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.800 Yeah, So in those instances, definitely, my mom's like, don't 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.120 even don't even think about talking to me before you 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.040 take a shower first smell there. But if I were 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.080 just going to school and I came back home and 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.480 like sat on my bed, I don't think my mom 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:44.240 would think anything of it. And I'm interested in in 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.839 this kind of uh, this this feeling because to me, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.480 I'll ask you a question. If I commuted to your apartment, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.280 why is why would I be allowed to sit on 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.080 your couch but not your bed. I mean, you're a 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.960 lot of time on your couch. If you're worried about 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.640 your bed, I don't know why you. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.760 Just shouldn't have people over that. Yeah, at that point, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.880 you're gonna give me a beer, like hants like come. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.080 Over, yeah, or like I guess some people have those 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:12.880 couch covers. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.920 Yeah, yeah, I guess when I'm on my couch, less 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:22.080 of my body is touching the catch, right, yeah, versus 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.840 when I'm in bed, it's like it's just my boxers. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:26.360 Does your dog get on your bed? 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.280 He does? And this is a thing, so I that 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.480 my dog on. My dog goes everywhere. And yes, I 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.960 don't have like tables, like you can't sit on this thing, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.360 but there are so like on my bed there's the 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.320 ali cover, so like I make my bed and then 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.600 there's a linen cover I have on top of that 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.800 that he stays on. Yeah, so you know, it's like 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.520 to me, it's probably like in bathrooms ready have like 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:00.680 the toilet bowl, you know, yeah, where you're like probably recover. Yeah, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.120 like what is this actually doing? Like if the germs 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:09.560 are really about that life like yeah yeah, but in 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.280 my mind there's a separation. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.159 Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.120 Where do we all stand on this current day? 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:24.080 Oh I don't care. Yeah, people unless you're like smelling bad, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.040 Like I'm more about like hygiene. 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.880 Yeah, if I come home, I mean yeah again, not 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.599 that many people are over there. If I come home 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.800 after work or whatever, and then I haven't. I'm not 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.800 going to change before I sit down on my bed. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.680 Like I would never get in my bed under the covers. Yeah, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.039 I would never get under the covers in my work. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:45.920 Yeah, that'd be kind of weird. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.839 Yeah, anyway, that's a different problem. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.440 Yeah, but like I would, I would definitely sit on 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.840 my bed my jeans or whatever that I wore out 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.760 onto the subway or what have you. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.160 Yeah, I'm the same way, Like I'm not you know, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.200 there's there are many times where I'll change before I 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.920 get into bed, but it's not because of the germs. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.760 It's like just more of a comfort thing, like I'm 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.960 not going to be in my jeans in bed or whatever. Yeah, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.280 And I've always been I've always wondered for people who 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:19.360 are like hardline against it. I'm wondering what's happening or 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.760 what they think is happening in their head where like 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.280 you get on the bed and then the germs that 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.120 are on your clothes are like jumping or transferring to 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.360 the bed and then what, yeah, die, Like what what 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.560 part of is? We live in New York City, one 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.440 of the dirtiest fucking cities in the world. I don't 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.240 my one question about this is like, I think it's 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.480 totally fair and fine if you don't want outside clothes 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.640 on your bed. I wonder if those people know you're 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.480 doing way grosser shit all day. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.680 Oh yeah, yeah sure. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:54.560 But I remember I years ago had like a fling 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:59.720 with someone who just was repulsed, like if I sat 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:04.560 on the bed, repulsed, like immediately changing the sheets. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.960 Oh like changing the sheets, like immediately after I left. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.520 Like cleaning, Like doesn't want anyone to sit on the 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.120 bed if they had just come from outside. And I 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.480 think that's like a problem. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.680 That's again like like you were saying, it's like what 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.360 what exactly is going to happen to you in your mind? 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.760 Like you're gonna get sick from this? 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.600 You think, Yeah, you know, I've seen people do drugs 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.280 off of like disgusting things and bathrooms and then turn 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.880 around and be like no outside clothes on my head? 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.800 Like what are we talking about here? 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:36.360 Like what is it? 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:36.920 Actually? 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.679 What is the germ part of this? How big of 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.559 a role does that play? Or you know, maybe it 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.960 was just a rule that was instilled when they were 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.120 a kidding that's what you do. There's not a lot 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.120 of logic to it like I I'm sure I have 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.199 I do tons of things that are not rational. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.040 Like other house things that like you were shoes in 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.760 your house, you wear shoes out, typically have the shoes off, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.079 but like if someone came in and it's not a 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.400 big deal the same way. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.719 I think it's just more comfortable to be. Yeah, it's 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.240 also yeah, it's a little clean. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.640 In terms of just like okay, I have to, like, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:13.760 you know, mop last night. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.240 Yeah I would. I wouldn't demand people to like. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.680 My dog walkers definitely off And I'm like it's fine. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.160 I'm also curious if say, you lay your dirty clothes 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.400 on your bed on the top of the covers, are 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:33.440 those germs ever gonna find their way under? And let's 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.160 say you don't have a top sheet for these. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.600 Purposes, you know top she I mean like we got 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.560 we have top sheets. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.280 Yeah, yeah, I love it because you need it, especially 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.720 temperatures changed the night. I love I can just take 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.520 off this and now it's I'm just in this thing. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.000 I'm not trying to be uncovered. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.280 Yes, that's yeah, something on top of me. Yeah. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.480 So I mean, I'm just curious how how much transfer 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.079 is actually happening. I wonder if there's like a like 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.079 a black light test. Yes, ultimately black light would be 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.360 funny because it would be like, yeah, this is great 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:13.640 for a podcast. Yeah yeah, exactly, yeah yeah. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.280 After the break, we'll talk to a microbiologists and track 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.480 down a lab that's actually willing to take on our 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.320 silly outside clothes experiment. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.559 Hey, you've reached money, Noah and devon at no such thing. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.400 Please leave your message after the beep. I think it's disgusting. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:46.120 I won't even stand near the top of my comforter 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.120 with outside clothes on for fear of them touching. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.920 I think it's acceptable to be on the bed, Like 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.240 if you're grown up and you've got a nice two 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:01.000 fae and hospital corners and whatever, and you have outside 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.199 clothes on top of all that, I think that's acceptable 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.840 to where outside clothes into bed is not great. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.679 The only garment that I am keeping on is my 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.840 T shirt from the day. Providing that I haven't been 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:22.240 sweating profusely, I am absolutely fine to wear that overnight 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.400 and then chuck it in the laundry basket. For me, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.600 it's like during the winter, your T shirt is never 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.280 really exposed. It's always under a jumper, under a coat. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:39.000 Every time a subway drives by, it dusts up all 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:44.800 the ratshit and human feces and piss from like, you know, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.000 ten million people or whatever just wafting in the air. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.679 At the very least, put on different clothes, best case, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.600 take a shower. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.439 If I'm having someone over from a date and we're 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.920 not in a relationship so I don't know them met, well, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.040 it feels really silly to ask them to take off 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.400 their parts. It feels presumptuous. It like interrupts the flow 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:17.120 of things. But I do scream internally when their outside 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.320 shirt touches my pillow, But ultimately, you know, you gotta 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:22.000 do what you gotta do. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.080 All right, we're back. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.520 I'm Anny, I'm Noah Devin. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.520 So last time we talked, we were discussing whether or 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.920 not you should wear your outside clothes on your bed, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.280 and so I want to talk to an expert about this, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.160 so I reached out to a microbiologist. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.400 So my name is. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.360 Doctor Lisa Kuchara. I'm a professor at Quinnipiac University, and 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.840 one of my research specialties is kind of looking at 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.840 full mites, which are is the fancy word for inanimate 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.240 objects which could contaminate us with bacteria. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.720 So think of like th Knob's uh your phone okay, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:08.040 subway poll subway pole game specifically a gaming because you 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:13.480 get at we've seen you know, So she's she's kind 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.079 of helpful here because we are trying to see if 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:24.200 our beds are film mights. So maybe unsurprisingly, Lisa describes 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.559 herself as a germaphobe. As a microbiologist, I would probably 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.760 be a germophobe, but she has a unique reasoning for 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.760 being a germaphobe. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.520 So my germophobia kind of comes from my like my 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.400 fear of missing out, my ability that I don't want 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.120 to be sick, even with things that aren't going to 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.880 kill me. So if I'm going to be say taking 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.959 a plane ride and going through all the things that 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.800 I might be touching, I don't want to get to 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.440 my destination and then spending the time in the bathroom. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.439 That's not something that I enjoy, and so I try 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.520 to avoid things like that. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.880 So with that mindset, I was curious, what are something 0:13:59.920 --> 0:14:02.080 to gross things that we encounter and just our day 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:02.720 to day lives. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.439 Definitely things that we don't tend to think about, like doorknobs, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.400 things like menus. So a lot of restaurants have very plasticly, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.719 very germ ridden menus, and so what do you do 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.600 you eat right after touching this menu? The person before 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.760 you went to the bathroom didn't wash their hands, and 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.800 now you're eating your French fries with your hands. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.040 So she says she brings hand sanitizer to restaurants for 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.880 that reason, and then she also talked about phones. Phones 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:30.400 are really gross. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.320 Yeah, of course, it's interesting that we also take our 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.920 phones everywhere, right, So our phones go to the bathroom 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.120 with us, our phones go to the restaurant with us, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.240 so we also have to be careful of that. One 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.240 of the things I do with my students is we 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.040 swabbed a lot of phones, and almost all of them 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.160 have fecal matter on them, which means that people are 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.520 washing their hands after they go to the bathroom. They're 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.600 touching lots of things, and yet our phones are with 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.920 us at most meals. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.840 Oh no, a lot of who that's I don't want 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:57.160 to hear that. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:58.640 Do you wipe down your phones? 0:14:59.520 --> 0:14:59.800 Nope? 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.600 No, no, I mean, what's the last time you left 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:03.080 down your phone? 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.640 Like if sometimes if I drop food on it, I'll 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:06.400 wipe yeah. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.800 Even even then, it's like more wiping it with my 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.600 thumb and not Yeah, it's not to clean the phone. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.920 It's just so I can see drop ketch up all 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.680 my screen. I might wipe it with I might, but 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.720 I might even just do a little like my thumb 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.120 and just y'all do the. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.800 You don't do the little lights all wiped the phone 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.520 every once in a while. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.000 I've never, I really never thought about it. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:29.160 Did you do it during COVID? 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:30.360 No? 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.320 Damn? Okay, y'all are this is trying to make a 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:40.040 lot more sense. So in the home, what what do 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:41.880 you think is like the grossest thing? Wan in the 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:42.360 grossest thing? 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:47.520 Then I would imagine the toilet toilet? 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.479 What about like sink sink knobs. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.560 Sink knobs, okay, a mirror? 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:59.600 Why I'm just throwing out things that are closer the sink, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.400 dishes both? 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:03.720 Uh? 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.920 The sponge, yes, the sponge. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:12.480 Yes, so our sponge is pretty disgusting. Most people's sponge 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:17.880 has more bacteria than our toilet stew. So we do 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.280 microwave our sponge after you know, washing our dishes. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.760 All right, so micro gavey sponges. Yeah, we didn started 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.200 talking about stuff that we can be bringing into our homes. 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.480 I told her that I use puro wipes to wipe 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.080 Ally's feet before he comes in a house. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.760 That's amazing. I mean, you're a very person. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.440 She said that actually helps, and then that led to 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.960 a conversation about whether or not we should be wearing 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.720 our shoes in a home. 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.720 You're in an environment that perhaps you're leaving your shoes 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.880 at the at the front door then having it inside 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.600 and outside pair of shoes. We do that to some extent, 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.800 but like if we're unloading and loading groceries, we don't 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:01.400 go to that extreme. So we're not completely religious about it. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.520 But we have on nice, you know, very comfy slipper 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.800 shoes that are inside outside shoes if we needed to 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.199 just you know, step out to pick up something at 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.919 the stoop type of thing, and then we have our 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.800 outside shoes. But like I said, we're not so particular 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.280 about it that if we had to go in and 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.320 out a hundred times that we're going to be taking. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.520 Out office Yeah, every single time you're going out. Yeah 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.600 that's how now I am too, right, Like I try 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.359 to avoid wearing my shoes inside. But if it's like okay, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:27.920 I just got to run and grab something. I'm not 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.879 going to take them off and put them all the 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.440 way back on and retime. Is it more so for you? 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.960 Is it a germs thing or is it more so 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.159 just like you know, if your shoes are dirty, you 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.639 can kind of see the footprints inside, right like it 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.200 shows up on a floor in a way that some 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.720 of these other germs do not. Is that sort of 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.960 you know, your consideration. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.360 It's threefold. So it is the fact that I don't 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.280 want to be again, I don't want to be spending 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.159 time cleaning my house when I could be, you know, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.080 enjoying life. So I want to minimize that. Definitely, germs 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.160 that we might be bringing in. And then also any 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.639 pollens or anything like this spring we had a really 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.120 big year with pollens. I know a lot of people 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.159 then bring the pollen in. It's all over there, you know, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.680 their rugs, it's everything, and then they're wondering why they're 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.679 having such a hard time with pollen season. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.680 We are currently recording this inside of my apartment, and 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.600 I resonate with what she just said because I'm someone 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.000 who loves to keep the floor as clean as possible. Now, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.280 you know, as you look at it right now. I 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.760 haven't cleaned in a few days. But I try to 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.639 make it so that you can like walk around here 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.520 in your socks and you look at the bottom of 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.800 your socks and then yeah, so like I really value that. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.440 And I actually just bought this insane electric mop. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.320 This is how you know Manny needs a full time job. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:48.600 All right, So now we're getting to the question, all right, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:56.760 does the microbiologists where outside clothes on her bed? 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.560 I don't so, and it depends on what I'm wearing. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.240 If I'm outside hiking, then I might actually have bird 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.400 poop on me and we were just photographing and turns 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.720 pooped on me. Definitely want to put those right into 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.560 the washer. Don't want to bring them into the bed. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.080 So we tend to have clothes that we wear around 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.280 the house, just nice little comfy like sweatpants and T 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:25.080 shirts that tend to be my inside clothes. What I 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.000 wear to bed would be different than what I were 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.080 outside all day. And again from a point of view 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.320 too of depending on the season in fall and spring, 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.800 the amount of pollen that we could be bringing into 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.560 our beds. I want to have a nice, relaxing sleep. 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.560 I don't want to have to be bringing there's enough 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:42.800 problems with dust, smites and other things that could be 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.520 interfering with sleep. We don't need to be bringing pollen 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.400 into that equation as well. So to me, the outside 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.800 clothes don't belong, you know, in my bed by what 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.520 I keep the bed as you know, relaxing as possible 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.720 and not introduce things into that environment. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.320 I'll say this, I'm being convinced by. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:03.480 The like. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.399 The sanctity of your sleep more so than like making 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.600 the bed dirty y because I will say it's like 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.800 she's talking about briefly mentioned like having bird people on 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.720 her or whatever. You know, even people who like to 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.399 have their outdoor clothes on their bed are they're not 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.679 gonna do it if there's literal shit on their clothes. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.560 But when she's talking about like the pollen and stuff, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.880 like I do sometimes have trouble sleeping. 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.440 So that's what she does. But I did ask her, like, 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.120 how bad is it in terms of like like you're saying, 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:40.720 is this just like a vibe thing? 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:41.240 Yeah? 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.680 Is there a concern that like there's germs that I'm 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.080 picking out throughout the day, could actually, you know, if 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:47.919 they get into my bed somehow make me. 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:52.560